What is ISA100 Wireless?

[@musicforsleepyogaandrelaxa3450]

Surely Wireless is the way to go for future technologies. Love the video.

[@realpars]

Happy to hear that!

[@anwartota]

This is my favorite KZbin channel. Thanks and Keep the good work.

[@realpars]

Thanks for your kind support! Glad to hear that.

[@lovrorb]

This would be absolutely perfect in some combination of dropping the power supply wiring as well! Most of the sensors/actuators we're using today have some kind of primitive digital communication interface, like Profinet and in that case we use hybrid (PS/com) cables exclusively. Pretty much the same goes for "dumb" analogue 4-20 mA sensors/actuators, one cable. So I don't see much benefit from all of this (except maybe increased reliability due to mesh possibilities) if there won't be much focus on truly wireless sensors/actuators. Same as with home automation there should be a huge focus on the low power devices so they could be reliably battery driven for years or even use metered process as a source (flow meters where the power is generated by the tiny fraction of flow, like a mini hydro plant haha). This could work for sensors, but not sure about some actuators that require a stable supply of significant current (like 1A solenoid valve for example), they're just too power hungry. And there's always a question of reliability, SIL/PL achievements .... on the other hand, implementation of Ex proof devices might be some much simpler. Will be interesting to follow the development of this :)

[@lvlr.vulnerable2509]

simply explained great info

[@realpars]

Glad it was helpful!

[@otabektillavayev3309]

Thanks

[@filimniko]

Thank you and happy new year!

[@realpars]

You're more than welcome! Wishing you a lovely new year as well!

[@jamesbhaskarsatishkumar6731]

Hi as usually your content is superb and easy to understand format, keep it going. Can you suggest the list of IIOT capable wireless smart sensor manufacturers, especially the water analytics and climate analytics. Thanks.

[@Haza3137]

Good idea.

[@ricardogarcia3900]

Good work. Waiting the next level.

[@realpars]

Thanks a lot, Ricardo!

[@tm2480]

Thank you for the great videos! Very helpfull.

[@realpars]

Glad it was helpful!

[@nmk5555]

1. What's the freq range the devices communicate on? 2. Can the networks gateway be hosted on cloud?

[@realpars]

The IEEE 802.15. 4-based ISA100. 11a wireless protocol operates at the 2.4 GHz band for various industrial applications. IEEE 802.11 WiFi also may operate at the 2.4 GHz band for industrial and data applications in the same environment. The gateways need to pick up the wireless signal over the air, so they need to phsyically be installed in sight of at least one wireless sensor in the mesh network. So, no , the gateways cannot be cloud based. The users of the data that passes from the gateways can be stored or used by cloud applications, such as data historians.

[@piusutar1238]

This is what I wanted .. thanks alot for this video😊...i would like know about MMS and CMS .. machine monitoring system and condition monitoring system

[@realpars]

Hey! Thanks for your kind comment and your suggestion. I will happily pass this on to our course developers! Thanks for sharing and happy learning!

[@usefulengineer2999]

Great content like always, keep up the good work.

[@realpars]

Thanks a lot! Happy learning

[@nayrbsworld3048]

Could you please have explanation how the data frames created

[@realpars]

Thanks for your suggestion, Nayrbs! I will happily go ahead and share this with our course developers.

[@logeshjeeva1231]

Much useful.wanna learn more.

[@realpars]

Thank you!

[@TheCircuitJunkie]

What are the disadvantages?

[@realpars]

Thanks for your comment, John! That would make for a great topic suggestion for a possible future video course. I will make sure to forward that to our course developers. Thanks for sharing and happy learning!

[@helixx23]

jamming this tx/rx channels would be very frustrating

[@looseycanon]

Not all that thrilled, I'd say the least. Sure, it's neat. It probably works miracles in industrial plants, given that each device can broadcast on very low power settings and in fairly insulated environment, things should be all well and dandy, but what about house automation using ISA100? Look at how many houses and flats are there, how many smart lightbulbs, all kinds of sensors, valves and levers... I fear, that available band might get exhausted, much like 2,4 Ghz WiFi and eventually, we'll be doing the same crazy stuff, which we do, when deploying WiFi. I get it. Wireless is convenient and simplistic and can safer in some applications, but that doesn't mean, everything need's to go wireless, which, unfortunately, seems to be the exact idea of integrable devices manufacturers.

[@jasonconrad5772]

I would disagree that they're just as reliable; I'd say more like 95%. Too many in the same area could cause signal interference. System would be forced to depend on another power source, and batteries can fail in high temp and corrosive environments or you could be forced to depend on another breaker, otherwise you're still running power wires from the same power source and defeat the whole purpose. I would only use on applications where hardwiring is going to be very difficult, expensive, or time consuming. If your tank is outside of your facility this might be a better option, otherwise I'd stick with the hardwired.

[@realpars]

Remember, ISA100 is not the same as home WiFi and operates in a band and with a comm stack that can avoid interferences (frequency hopping). At home, if my wireless router services cable TV and well as file downloads to PC's, and other devices, it is very easy to occasionally saturate a WiFi band. The data comm load for ISA100 is measured in bytes per transmission, not megabytes. ISA100 installations in a process plant with a properly configured system also take advantage of mesh networking, which greatly improves reliability. In Iarge-scale tests in real plant environments, ISA100 has shown to be very reliable and secure. Unlike any home WiFi system, ISA100 has multiple schemes for redundancy built into the hardware and application layer of the communication. Is ISA100 a perfect solution for all scenarios? No, but it does provide a superior alternative for many sites where access via wired networks would not be practical.

[@realpars]

@@jasonconrad5772 ISA100 networks are more reliable than you might think. Through testings with a properly installed system, ISA100 is deterministic. Hardware, including gateways and sensors, is designed for temperature ranges of -40C to 75C, as good or better than wired systems. You bring up a good point about having to wire gateways anyway, but their smaller power requirement (versus an entire I/O subsystem) lends itself well to redundant power sources, UPS power, etc. With redundant gateways, the possibility of power loss and failure due to a single circuit is minimal. Sure, batteries need to be changed, albeit very infrequently, but the device battery status is a diagnostic parameter that can be monitored. Again, ISA100 wireless may not be appropriate in all cases, but with recent certifications for use in safety instrumented systems (end-to-end SIL2), reliability has been proven.

[@jasonconrad5772]

@@realpars this reminds me of a conversation I had with a guy about SCADA, LOL. Whether or not it's just as good, better, or worse will entirely depend on the application. I'm not being paid for this conversation so, I'm respectfully done.

[@looseycanon]

@@realpars I realise that, however, bandwidth is finite no matter the spectrum. If you're adding essintially repeaters in to this "network", eventually, you'll exhaust entire band, especially, if governments declare bands for these applications very narrowly.This could then in very tight very high tech housing cause oversaturation of the band, especially if repeaters are involved, because they have to rebroadcast a motherlode of data, if the network become's large enough, or enough competing networks were present. This hold's true for any digital wireless network. And this is what I point towards. In high tech high density housing, you will eventually run in to combinoation of both scenarios I mentioned combined. MESH networking is a nice thing, but it has flaws, which I believe, will show them selves once critical treshold get's reached.

[@ShivChidambarDesvandi]

Great new technology

[@thiagowerneck1027]

Beautiful 🤩

[@withsiva]

What's the max distance it covers bw gateway and sensors?

[@realpars]

There is no set answer to this because of the many variables that can affect wireless communications. If there is a direct line-of-sight between sensor and gateway, 30 - 50m is common for ISA 100 networks. Normally, many sensors are used to form a mesh network in closer proximity to form multiple paths from sensor to gateway. As with any wireless network design, a site survey can indicate the practical distance limitations for your site. The distance between gateways can be considerable, up to 500m, with proper antennas and good line-of-sight placement. Gateways, with a good line of site, an communicate over several hundred feet. Zigbee and Bluetooth have much shorter ranges: 10 - 20m for Zigbee, and 3-10m for Bluetooth.

[@mahmoudshalaby147]

Do dirt or dust affect the wireless performance?

[@realpars]

Not appreciably, unless there is significant buildup on the antennae.

[@mansurabubakar9044]

Is ISA Wireless network platform available in Nigeria?

[@realpars]

The ISA100 wireless platform should be able to be installed anywhere in the world as long as export laws do not prohibit the purchase and installation of the ISA100 gateways. The ISA100 network uses a bandwidth that should be available to be used worldwide, as it is generally considered to be in a publically-available broadcast band. An ISA100 network is created with gateways and sensors and does not depend on any public WiFi service to operate.

[@nikolaydubina]

Does ISA100 have lower latency than TCP for reliable communication?

[@realpars]

Not necessarily. But latency is not a major issue with sensor networks because the amount of data transmitted over a sensor network, like ISA100 Wireless, is small compared to an office network or a plant network with HMI and historian application running. The latency for ISA100 is ~100ms, but that is fast enough when the data publishing rate from an ISA100 Wireless transmitter is typically 1-2 seconds.

[@shriyashbajaj5609]

What if I want to connec simple output signals from different machines on the production floor to a central computer for monitoring?

[@scottsommer5450]

You would need an ISA 100 Wireless gateway and one or more ISA 100 Wireless sensors installed. The more sensors you have, the stronger the mesh network will be.

[@nikolaydubina]

Reliability of delivering data over unreliable channel sounds a lot like TCP. What makes ISA100 more reliable than TCP?

[@realpars]

ISA100 was built from the ground up with security and reliability built into the protocol. With TCP, security was layered on top of the protocol, as we can see from the issues TCP and Ethernet have had with security lately. ISA100 has been certified for use in SIL 2 safety applications which requires a very high level of proven reliability through stringent 3rd party testing. TCP has never been able to reach that level of demonstrated reliability.

[@13AmpsEngineering]

Did you provide course for that technology? Thank you Matt

[@realpars]

No, we do not yet have a course, but your suggestions will be passed onto the development team. Thank you for your suggestion!

[@okedamilola3626]

@RealPars what's the difference between isa100 and WirelessHART? Does ISA100 have any striking advantage over wirelessHART?

[@realpars]

Hi Oke! Thanks for your comment, that would make for a great video course! I will pass this on to our course developers as a topic suggestion! Thanks for sharing and happy learning!

[@apricotcomputers3943]

Cool

[@markhill8389]

Sounds great but also sounds vendor driven so it cannot be used universally unless top $ is payed for their products

[@johnieM19]

Is isa100 only used in a per device scenario or is there remote racks with this tech installed? Can it be used to communicate to these devices from a pc to the PLC?

[@realpars]

Multiple ISA100 devices are typically designed to be interfaced directly to a controller via a gateway. Wireless interfaces from remote I/O racks need an ISA100 wireless device known as a FEWIO (Field-Expandable WIreless I/O) device. These are available from Honeywell and other manufacturers. Yokogawa and others have and are developing ISA100 interface hardware for instruments, computers, and servers. Available and certified products are available at ISA100wci.org.

[@johnieM19]

@@realpars that's excellent to hear. Are there others that are moving in this direction of communication such as Siemens or Allen Bradley? What protocol do they use or is isa100 the protocol?

[@realpars]

@@johnieM19 Rockwell is currently invested in wireless Ethernet/IP, and Siemens has been pushing wireless Profinet.