What is It About God? | Episode 1504 | Closer To Truth

[@BuddyLee23]

These episodes are so good. They are like something you’d be lucky to catch on TV a couple decades ago. Hidden gems on the Internet.

[@MrDroenix]

So happy to have discovered this content a few days ago! Glad you're enjoying it too

[@sheenaalexis8710]

I only found this channel two days ago! Let's just say, I'm so glad my work is still closed lol

[@BrianNichols85]

The show began airing on PBS 20 years ago.

[@HILAL19564]

Great Great channel. Just discovered it. Very relevant and important questions and subject matter.

[@AarmOZ84]

This series is so addicting!!!! I see so much of myself in Robert Lawerence Kuhn and have battle this question for 13 years.

[@GeoCoppens]

Poor you!

[@robertsterler7091]

@@GeoCoppens Great Story!!!

[@HILAL19564]

I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!! this is what people should be busy with. Instead of being busy with gathering riches.

[@margrietoregan828]

BTW I consider it a wonderful, marvellous privilege to have access to these stellar interviews . A thousand, million thank yous, Robert. xxxxxxxxxxxx

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

God provides meaning to everything and for everyone

[@richardvannoy7230]

Can’t people just enjoy the discussion for its own sake? Must we insult each other, or try to convince others of our own beliefs (or lack of). Please.

[@khaledsarwar8130]

Richard Van Noy this channel attracts a very close minded group of people.

[@paultorbert6929]

true......

[@habibie]

My God is better than your god u idiot!

[@khaledsarwar8130]

habibie you literally proved his point. you are amazing 😍

[@habibie]

@@khaledsarwar8130 thanx, god of sarcasm was very good to me ☺️😊

[@KeithCooper-Albuquerque]

I think this episode wraps up Dr Kuhn's journey so far. I found the diverse opinions interesting -- not convincing, but interesting. I like this channel: The content keeps me informed of the different opinions and approaches to God.

[@vhawk1951kl]

is it not rather odd to describe what is little more than pouring from the empty into the void as a "journey"? If you pour from tthe empty into the void, all you get is the void.

[@adnankassem8114]

I think that we have a natural intuition that understands god.

[@bradsmith9189]

How in the world has Robert Kuhn not talked to Dr Stephen Meyer ?!?! He is the one “expert” he has always, always, been seeking.

[@JimHabash]

Regarding this episode: a fellow engineer friend of mine died for 30 minutes at home from factor 5 clotting, and confirmed dead for 42 minutes in the cath lab, where he fixed the c arm x ray unit used to clear his clots. We thought he would be a vegetable after revived. It's understood that he is certainly an anomaly, some say miracle. A few years later, he told me some of his experience. He told me he WAS an agnostic, and that he got sent back for his wife, he said he asked God about the religions of the world, what was the true one, and god put the image of a mountain in his mind, and the top off the mountain represented the greatest degree of spirituality any human could hope to achieve while on earth. And that the religions of the world. and my friend spirals his hands from the bottom of the mountain to the tip top, and says they are the the pathways to get to the top of the mountain . To achieve the highest degree of spirituality. They are all good. They are for you. Because you humans need that kind of thing. That's how you are. Other details were that before being seeing "god" he saw his life flash before his eyes as he died, saw a white light, but no tunnel, he was then in a black infinite void, but he felt extreme peace was able to move according to his thoughts, move around with great speed, and felt magnificent (he pounded his chest like king kong and seemed insanely excited as he stood in front of me). Before I had never witnessed him to be so excited. Then, he was surrounded by billions of orbs, that were the souls of the universe, the orbs loved him unconditionally, he saw 360 degrees and assimilated their knowledge and while over there seemed to be part of a collective of all of their accumulated experiences, and that they were one hive mind, but individual as well. He said he exchanged life experiences in first person with them. He wasn't allowed to remember these experiences, or the knowledge there because he says he's back in this tiny human mind. He said time didn't exist. He took almost 3 years to assimilate here he says because we are animals on earth, unlike over there. He says we are "animal" here, beholden to our physical needs, fears, and ego. He has no desire for earthly possessions, wealth, they are of the earth. He wished he never got sent back. He said you think this is real, don't you? I said well, yes. Feels pretty real to me. He points to the ceiling, and says: "That", "THAT IS Reality, this is the dream. Curiously, another engineer a few years later told me the night my friend died, he with several on call engineers and co workers came in to observe the surgery, and he stayed out in the waiting area with my friends wife to provide support. But he says she was beside herself with grief and was praying out loud and on the floor of the waiting area praying profusely for God to bring her husband back to her. He said she was almost prone on the floor, it was a scene. And my friend who died knows none of this other than, he got sent back for his wife, and he feels he got pulled out of the void because at first, the orbs welcomed him, but then after what seemed to him like 30 years in the void, they all of a sudden said , he's got to go back. But they didn't have the authority to do anything about it, they were just saying it. He knew this because they were one collective consciousness, that's when he says God came without form and he was told he was going back for his wife. He also said he realized the void was a temporary holding area, and if he left it, he could never go back to earth.

[@robertsterler7091]

Great Story!!!

[@supremegalacticcommander2783]

That’s is an incredible story. The part I found most amazing was the fact that your friend felt as though he had been “in the void” for 30 years. I was thinking about something similar earlier. If photons experience no time since they are, by definition, moving at the speed of light, could our souls experience something similar when we die. As in, your humanly body is converted to some sort of pure energy which no longer experiences time, hence to speak of an eternal Life in heaven, in some sense makes more sense. Anyway, that really was an incredible story.

[@PrimitiveBaroque]

Amazing!

[@JimHabash]

@@supremegalacticcommander2783 He said he tried to think a negative thought in the void, it just didn't exist there. You couldn't. To see someone retell their story and go crazy with joy then flip to sadness w/ tears- all in one conversation - he moved me so much I just could not doubt him. And the doctors joked about him to this day, that he should be vegetable at best.

[@Blap552]

Awesome, Thank you! Very Comforting!❤😊

[@xyachtie]

I've always believed that the very first thing every newborn baby learns is that there is a "higher authority" to come to their aid - a nurse, the mother etc coming to their comfort. As the days pass and the early years go there is normally a "higher authority" there to fulfill needs. As young children realize that their parents and other adults are not all powerful it is easy to see the wish for a higher authority such as a God to exist to provide security. When parents teach children there is a God it is hard to shake for many through adulthood. I think that very first lesson moments after childbirth drives many in a lifelong search for a God.

[@karelvandervelden8819]

Yes, even in the the womb of mother we connect with a supreme being. Also we observe finity in ourselfs and surrounding (erosion, death, collapsing stars. ) Thus we struggle to except this local lonely finity. But please enjoy it.

[@sheenaalexis8710]

Very good point, example and way to look at it.

[@blackbearbear9313]

He's all Loving the highest of all Love

[@ericjohnson6665]

I'd love it if Robert would interview Gregg Braden of Gaia's Missing Links show.

[@ericjohnson6665]

I very much liked what John Polkinghome had to say about God.

[@mikedunningham9614]

The marvellous single thing about “god” is how your individual imagination can create a myriad of variations about your personal invisible friend.

[@nuggyfresh6430]

There's something incredibly scary in the way that religious people can talk with a sure heart about such unknowable matters.

[@DJAutoload]

These episodes are thought provoking and presented in an easily accessible way which encourages the viewer to look at the subject from multiple viewpoints and with excellent production values ! As a student of Vedic philosophy primarily reading The Bhagavad Gita and The Srimad Bhagavatam it amazes me that these deeply profound philosophical and scientific questions have been answered by these books in such an eloquent and measured way it makes me appreciate them even more 😊

[@johnyoutube6746]

God= energy

[@DJAutoload]

Energy = the Brahman effulgence emanating from the Supreme Personality of Godhead who is the source of all energies

[@johnyoutube6746]

Energy cannot be created nor destroyed Energy is the source of everything

[@DJAutoload]

Yes energy can have no beginning and have no end and stretch as far as the infinite eye can perceive however this energy can also fall into an inanimate state and when it’s in this pristine condition how is it reanimated and what are the casual factors that create the energy into becoming energetic ?

[@johnyoutube6746]

@@DJAutoload The God in the bible is pertaining to the energy

[@uremove]

I liked that all the academics interviewed pointed to the ineffable, unknowable nature of God. The mystics of all religions teach that we need to EMPTY our minds of concepts, to know the transcendent, not fill our minds with more. “Be still and know that I am God” etc. IMO, conceptual ideas of God therefore start in the wrong place. I want to ask instead “what are people relating to when they pray, or meditate or attempt to interact with God?” and then “What is our (human) experience of God?”. In the former case, it seems to be some deeper part of our mind, that speaks when we are still, whether that is some Ultimate Reality or Universal Mind we can only guess. In the latter case, it is an often life changing, transcendental experience of unity, or ultimate otherness, universal love, or awesome infinity/eternity, spiritual release or the destruction of ego. All these things are experiential. Hence whether they are “real” or not depends whether you assume reality is fundamentally physical, or experiential. That is the profound change in perspective I think that Christopher Knight alluded to, where the world looks both the same, and yet totally different to the theist and the atheist.

[@TroyHagerman67]

Thank you, very well said

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

God explains human experience of consciousness, free will, language and awareness. God makes sense of reality.

[@johnyoutube6746]

God= energy

[@jackmabel6067]

"Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child." ... Robert A. Heinlein

[@hkicgh7277]

The God Muslims believe is the creator of the universe, the all perfect existing being with no flaw.

[@paultorbert6929]

Abrahamic GOD..... Jews, Christians and Muslims have the same GOD. i am curious as to why you didnt make THAT point...... and there is a reason. a good one. it has to do with humans...... replies @hki cgh ?????????????????

[@hkicgh7277]

@@paultorbert6929 Christians included Mary and jesus in the divine (but that's besides the point). Coming to your question, what sort of message from God would you accept other than sending a messenger amongst us?

[@paultorbert6929]

@@hkicgh7277 hki cgh maybe my first post was somewhat cryptic or misdirecting your thoughts..... sorry about that.... I wondered why you didn't say in your post, "The Abrahamic GOD" that created everything is perfect and flawless ????? It seems as "seperatist" as the non-believers that would say you and I are wrong for being believers.... In fact, since GOD wants All Humans to serve GOD's will, any human causing divisions into separate religions should be seen as opposite to GOD's will of Love and Unity...... Religion is something that distorts GOD..... GOD never invoked religion. That's humankind downfall.... Look at the internal bickering and fighting in the different types of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism.... That's all I am trying to highlight. Humans are foolish ego-driven savages, for the most part.

[@hkicgh7277]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/bH2mnYtud7dpaaM

[@PabloVestory]

If this life were some kind of test, or step, or path to perfection, even a simulation...it makes sense the abscense of clear indisputable evidence of God. It would be too easy if there were

[@sauniz1]

What difference does it make whether God exists or not?

[@johnyoutube6746]

God= energy

[@sauniz1]

@@johnyoutube6746 How is that an answer to my question?

[@johnyoutube6746]

@@sauniz1 God created everything Energy is the source of everything Simple logic

[@zetapi826]

If there's such a thing as The Ultimate Paradox, no doubt it will have to do with God. Even if God won't have existed.

[@robertjkuklajr3175]

I have a question about where God is in relation to ourselves. It is possible that we are in the mind of God living in existence as one with him?

[@TroyHagerman67]

Yes

[@shaggystone6397]

No. After he created stuff he left. He is alone. He left us alone to live out meaningless fantasies. Cant u sense it?

[@stinkertoy4310]

Another excellent episode. There is something much more basic - visceral about the notion of “god”. It should instill the idea and importance of humility. We are WAY far from being the biggest kids on the block, and so backwards we “haven’t found aliens yet”.

[@arthurwieczorek4894]

"God must be the end of explanation." God as an explanatory device to end a infinite regress of infinite regresss. 'Ha, ha, ha. We got the answer. We're the rational ones. If you can't answer, say, where the world came from, then you must bow to us.' I've always thought that was the big gun of religion.

[@josealbinosantosnogueira6013]

It's a shame he doesn't do more interviews outside the Anglo-Saxon World. You know, just to get a different Weltanschauung. Still, it's a very good show. It seems that Kuhn is obssessed with death and the actual possibility of it being the end of our existence and that concept is not only frightening but also unfathomable.

[@ericday4505]

The guy Hugh McCann, his little segment was quite interesting, I dont think I have read anything from him, but I certainly will now.

[@richardvannoy7230]

Very interesting discussion.

[@shinymike4301]

I try to leave God alone, but He won't leave ME alone !@#%!

[@SamChesster]

God is love and will let you do whatever it is you want! So if your god will not leave you alone then you do not truly want God to leave you alone... lol ;) ... Just joking around buddy ;)

[@kimsahl8555]

You want to know more than you know, and that more is about God. Someone said....

[@blackbearbear9313]

He's so Loving caring and funny He makes me laugh all the time and feeling happy and good inside Love God this is all that matters ask Jesus for forgiveness God Bless

[@nobe8652]

God, God, oh God!!!!

[@maync1]

I am not sure this line of questioning can lead to the ultimate answer, the truth. I think the truth is to be had in much simpler ways, in ways to overcome one's skepticism of how to reach the faith. The facts of the crucifixion, burial and resurrection of Jesus should point the way. The rest is up to us, to our action. Beyond that there is unending philosophy.

[@Jesusismykin]

God is a spiritual being, you can't see him unless he wants you to.

[@eddiebrown192]

God is the universal quantum wave function .

[@z_a_r_c_o]

why isn't it JUST the universal quantum wave function

[@fraser_mr2009]

@@z_a_r_c_o god invented it

[@cloudleopard7695]

We are born with the Spark of Divinity ! We are Sovereign we are Free ! We love our neighbor as we love ourselves ! We are Stewards for Nature and all life !!!

[@heckle9]

You should explain how you came to the conclusion of your statement.

[@SandipChitale]

It is really interesting that some of these commentators can get away with so much of circular logic and/or self referential logic. In any other discourse of human activity one will be laughed out of the room. Think of this scenario: They: "Robert, you owe me 1 million dollars." Robert: "Why?" They: "Because the first statement said so". Should Robert even entertain such logic? I would not. Would you? Just defining something with arbitrary properties to a thing does not make it exist. And lastly, how do these commentators know what they are saying about it? They have special receivers not every one has? And they differ among themselves!

[@JAYDUBYAH29]

Sandip Chitale nailed it

[@pmcate2]

Yes, the god is perfect axiom is not a simple idea at all. At least, not when you compare it to axioms in science in and math, for example like a+b=b+a.

[@lrvogt1257]

What is it about God? It's a simplistic catch-all answer to difficult questions.

[@johnyoutube6746]

God= energy

[@lrvogt1257]

@@johnyoutube6746 " "god" = anything you want to believe it is. m=E/c2

[@alistairwatt8767]

@@johnyoutube6746 I would be making equally little sense as you if I were to say ''unicorns = energy''

[@johnyoutube6746]

@@alistairwatt8767 God created everything Energy is the source of everything God is the alpha and Omega Energy is the beginning and the end God is eternal Energy cannot be created nor destroyed Energy is eternal Simple logic God=Energy God in the bible is pertaining to the energy

[@parismetro2012]

Simulation hypothesis makes most sense to me

[@shaggystone6397]

Me too.. Nick & Elan are right. Or some some sort of a hologram built up from quantum particles that many physicists are saying are a projection of an 8 dimensional object being projected onto a 3 dimensional screen. Lattice 8.

[@JAYDUBYAH29]

“You can’t raise any scientific questions that are relevant to the existence of such a being...” convenient AF.

[@dbk5816]

That actually makes sense for several reasons. Firstly God by definition is the creator of the laws of nature. Hence you can't explain God's existence scientifically. Secondly, like every other being on earth we may as well have a limit to what we can grasp. There is already strange phenomenon that we have discovered in several subjects like quantum mechanics for example that you can't make sense of using common sense. Not to mention that we only understand 5 percent of the universe 95 percent of what makes up the universe (Dark matter and dark energy) is still unknown.

[@valkonrad]

I suppose you mean convenient for someone who is not engaged in scientific enquiry? That is, most scholars.

[@matthewbonaldo4137]

Neither can you for math and logic, what is your point?

[@dbk5816]

​ @Stefano Portoghesi The evidence is design and how the alternate view you are proposing (naturalism) fails at explaining many issues. The case for naturalism have only gotten worse the more we understood about the universe. For example, as we understood the laws of nature, we came to realise that the constants of nature to be within a very narrow range for life to exist. How naturalism deals with this? It proposes infinite universes. How convenient! In biology, the complexity of even the simplest unit for life, a cell have proven to be problematic for naturalism. Biochemist Franklin M. Harold explains in his book "The Way of the Cell: Molecules, Organisms and the Order of Life:" the reason why the abiogenesis problem is very difficult problem: "Cell components as we know them are so thoroughly integrated that one can scarcely imagine how any one function could have arisen in the absence of the others. Genetic information can only be replicated and read out with the aid of enzyme proteins, which are themselves specified by those same genes. Energy is harnessed by means of enzymes, whose production requires energy input. Darwinian evolution is at bottom the struggle among individuals defined by cell membranes, yet how could membranes and transport catalysts arise without genes, proteins and energy?" In brief, What he is pointing out is that a cell must contain all its components *at the same time* for a cell to function and replicate otherwise, it wouldn't function at all. He is implying Behe's irreducible complexity argument in detail. Gradualism totally fails at explaining abiogenesis. Another issue with the naturalistic view, the reason why we speak coherently is that words we speak are based on logical thinking. If our speech was solely based on chemical reactions or electrical pulses in the brain, you would be speaking nonsense since *the laws of nature doesn't whether your speech makes sense or not*. You would need to reduce the concept of logic to chemical reactions to support the naturalistic view which is absurd. Yeah, given how the view you are advocating for is struggling for the problems mentioned, the opposite view must be true.

[@dbk5816]

​ @Stefano Portoghesi "People have always believed in god, so that must be wrong", aside from the fact that your argument isn't based on any logical premises, the argument actually makes a case for the existence of a God. It shows that the belief in god is ingrained in humans intuitively and that atheism is foreign Notice how you never addressed the problems in your view of the world, and how with more understanding of science, the case keeps getting worse for naturalism. People have invented abstractions to try to explain the universe without the need for a God. For example, the proposal the existence of infinite universes to deal with the fine tuning problem. The view you are defending, naturalism needs to go "outside of space and time" as you say to justify itself. How convinient ! In your own words. In addition, the first pioneers of the scientific method were religious men. Ibn al-Haytham, who made significant contributions in the field of optics and various other fields, is commonly agreed among historians to be the first person to operate on the scientific method was a religious man. He said: "The duty of the man who investigates the writings of scientists, if learning the truth is his goal, is to make himself an enemy of all that he reads, and... attack it from every side," he wrote. "He should also suspect himself as he performs his critical examination of it, so that he may avoid falling into either prejudice or leniency." Francis Bacon, also a philosopher known for developing the scientific method said: "A little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion” And Bacon is right, you are attempting to explain the creator of the laws of nature using the laws of nature, a circular logical fallacy associated with little understanding of philosophy.

[@NormanBliss]

“I AM” God reveals himself to all people through their reason and built-in desires and to teach them about himself, and to prepare them for the coming of Christ.

[@hkicgh7277]

If we are allowed to be skeptical about God, then we should be allowed to be skeptical about our own existence.

[@57strub]

Not sure I understand. I exist. You exist. I can see myself and you if you were here. Where is god? He doesn't show himself, ever. I'm not skeptical about my existance but very skeptical about god.

[@hkicgh7277]

@@57strub our existence could all be a Hologram or simulation if you will ( I am allowed to make the case). And by nature you know that everything you set your eyes on has a creator even without seen one.

[@57strub]

@@hkicgh7277 Yes every thing has a creator. My parents created me, your parents created you. Goes back millions of years. What sparked life? We don't know. You don't know. But I don't have to invent an explanation that there is zero proof of. I listen to lots of theists and everyone of them has a little different idea about what god is because none of them know. Thats why there is thousands of different religions. I'm perfectly happy not knowing and have zero fear of gods ire.

[@hkicgh7277]

@@57strub please don't invent any creator to the next thing you set your eyes on Because you don't know and have zero prove. After all It could be just a product of explosion in the press (assuming it's a book), or anything else.

[@lj823]

@hkicgh7277 It has never occurred to me to seek permission. Who would I ask? And I've always applied these types of questions to myself as well as god (G?). I thought everyone did. How else could any answers have meaning? Happy skepticism and awesome surprises. And don't forget to share 😊

[@freedommascot]

God is the will to exist, pure and simple.

[@dorothybothman1550]

One have to consider the following... God could just as well be just a creation of the human mind ! That is why we find so many human manifestations of a higher being, we call "God"... we have to understand... we cannot, and will never know completely !!!!

[@TroyHagerman67]

God Be Cause

[@arthurwieczorek4894]

As an atheist I'd say Inwagon had the best to say, limited as it was. A God so tenuous his calling God a being should have 'being' in quotes, meaning 'kind of like'. In terms of regular religions, what he said would be a pebble they build a basilica on. Is Inwagon's God seperate form its creation or does 'he' reside in it?

[@doosqamfita]

We do not exist but nothing do exist ...

[@jrboi22]

How many people here would be absolutely livid if in fact God exists? And why?

[@shaggystone6397]

It would be kinda cool except for the existence of meaningless suffering. If he said well, im all loving but not all powerful or knowing. i would say ok. Guess that explains that one.

[@mykrahmaan3408]

Dear Mr. Kuhn, There is no meaning in all these concepts I analyse, viz. "Free will, consciousness, Truth, ... ", so long as I haven't defined "I" as a particular sequence of particles and specify a definite criterion of proof related to satisfaction of my needs to verify the accuracy of the theory I assume as to the origin of those particles.

[@DLee1100s]

Maybe God is simply the collective wisdom of thousands of years of ancestors and has been perhaps attributed more than He deserves?

[@victorjcano]

In the 20th Century it is absurd that intelligent people Believe THAT AN ACTUAL God exist Beyond being JUST A WORD WE USE TO EXPLAIN OUR IGNORANCE OR INABILITY TO UNDERSTANDING the mystery of OUR BEING.

[@jrboi22]

Regardless of how God is being defined here I think by definition he would have to be a person of some sort. Primarily because obviously we are all racking our finite brains to understand someone we have very limited knowledge of and have a difficult time grasping. The only way I believe we can know him on a personal attribute level is that by necessity he reveals himself to us. Which to me implies intent or will to be known. Now we have to ask has he already revealed himself to us? If so when, how, etc?

[@kevinfalcao8657]

Why " He " .....

[@gordontubbs]

Thumbs up if you watched this episode to the end.

[@sheenaalexis8710]

Oh God, please sir! Just come down or from wherever you dwell and just tell us once and for all what you are to end all of this mystery. I wish! ...It's driving me crazy. My brain hurts. So many opinions and arguments it's exhausting. I don't know what to think anymore

[@marshagreene7926]

I’m right along with you!

[@bvshenoy7259]

Adi Shankaracharya an Indian monk wrote the following in the 7th century AD: Nirvana Shatakam (Six stanzas to explain who we individuals are) Lyrics in Sanskrit with English translation. *Nirvana Shatakam* *Tat Tvam Asi* in Sanskrit *That Thou Art* *You are that infinite reality* kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6O9hoSea7ijmbM

[@ericjohnson6665]

God not a person (Keith)? Or is God the source of all personality, being the ultimate, even the absolute, personality. And that we can, (and should), have our very own interpersonal relationship with God... (Our possible mission, should we choose to accept it...)

[@JAYDUBYAH29]

You dont dig too deeply, just sometimes where there is no water..

[@RonaldLeng521]

If you can be God. Will you allow suffering??

[@yeolee2703]

Suffering is not necessarily necessary. But it is effective to correct ignorance and arrogance. Which God do you question?

[@Patrick77487]

A newborn suffers. Where is god?

[@DrDress]

19:45 Is there a ping pong tournament going on in the background?!

[@ericjohnson6665]

Yes, I think one of God's very essences is perfection. But where do we get our sense of perfection? Why do we care about it (other than perhaps the fact that things that are perfectly made, work very well, for a long time). One could even call it a "perfection hunger". One book says we have a spirit fragment of God indwelling our mind, which serves as our perfection compass. It's there to help us make the relatively speaking, perfect choice, with regard to relationships, for example. I do not think it has anything to do with choosing the perfect outfit.

[@agungcell]

God is a programer

[@warrenpanabang3341]

one could not be perfect with the knowledge of good and evil. God is perfect good while satan is perfect evil. remove evil in this world, it is perfect good. remove good in this world, it is perfect evil.

[@bazstrutt8247]

God is an excuse... A panacea... An answer to an unknown question A pacifier A way to cure your cognitive closure problem God exists, but only in the head of believers

[@zanzibarbob7]

I haven't listen to the video yet but noted your comment. It is my observation, much like yours, that God and prayer is a placebo and acts in only the circumstances that a placebo will act. Mainly in the mind of the believer. If prayer, i.e. talking to God, is effective, then it should work beyond where a placebo works. As a test, take any inanimate object such as a rock or marble and pray for it to become something else, such as a four door pink Buick or resurrecting the Parthenon. If it works you are good, but if it does not you may have to resort to Roseann Roseannadanna's book of excuses, such as "Its always somethin,' " God does or doesn't work in mysterious ways, depending on his mood!

[@dankuchar6821]

Unless he does exist. You can't prove he doesn't. But maybe if He were to show up one day you could prove He exists. There is evidence out there, but you have to search for it.

[@bazstrutt8247]

Dan Kuchar So god is giving us some difficult crypto clues to his existence??😂😆

[@bazstrutt8247]

Dan Kuchar *cryptic

[@bazstrutt8247]

Dan Kuchar Fairies exist. You can’t prove they don’t. The clues to fairies are out there, you just have to look. Hope you can see the problem here

[@pmcate2]

It seems that whatever the god, it must follow the rules of logic. So how can he then be incomprehensible and transcendent?

[@shaggystone6397]

Which is also why he would never make a rock so big he couldnt lift it. Not logical.

[@dckfg01]

Karl Barth: "Let God be God." If God does not reveal himself to you, you will never be able to know God. Human reason is useless here. God speaks; we listen.

[@najialqhfa7231]

How ru imagine after life, how long we will stay after life, are we going work there to make liveing

[@mikedziuba8617]

A lot of people, who believe in God, also believe in Angels, Fiends, and the Devil. And ancient Greeks and Romans believed in multiple gods, who had all kinds of conflicts and problems with each other. These gods were powerful, but they weren't perfect. According to recent archeological finds, anatomically modern humans have existed for close to 200,000 years. But people's idea and belief in one almighty and all powerful God has arisen only about 3,000 years ago. And one big reason why many people have converted to this new idea of God is religious violence, coercion, and discrimination against unbelievers. Although God is supposed be perfectly good, people have often used the idea of God to justify all kinds wars, war crimes, and atrocities. This idea of perfect goodness has led to a lot of badness in human behavior. Which is a paradox to think about.

[@carlito8003]

god cannot be evaluated no enough words and meaning can give value ,because if we give value or evaluate what god mean we give the limitation of what god is

[@somethingyousaid5059]

Arguably the most problematic concept is God.

[@zetapi826]

Yes, and God doesn't even have to exist for that to be true.

[@jeffamos9854]

Not if you are an atheist

[@zetapi826]

Nobody can be an atheist unless they have a problem with God though. At least conceptually.

[@jeffamos9854]

@@zetapi826 you assume there is a god. Which non existent god are you talking about?

[@zetapi826]

@@jeffamos9854 Well, a god can be non-existent and still be problematic. There just has to be a basic confusion about a god. Any number of us have any number of confusing concepts about any number of gods. A god doesn't have to exist for that much to be true. If we had the luxury of a certainty about all of that, none of us would have to be confused about any of it. If it were true that a god exists right now (and I'm not asserting that it's true that one does) it would be true that you and I are no better than uncertain about that god right now. That's all.

[@lassoatrain]

There is no easy way too say this then to just say it and say it because it serves as the best example. First let me ask do you think your annus which is part of your own body is aware that it is part of a sentient being that is aware and has free choice, or part of a being that can think ,create, love, recreate? That is the same problem God had with Cosmologist.

[@jauhueitang6879]

Infinity is not a real number, because any real number minus itself would equal 0, but infinity minus infinite is not a definite number. Therefore, assuming God with infinite power and infinite knowledge does not exist and is not real.

[@ThePasserines]

There are 1.5 plus billion Muslims on this planet who follow in the footsteps of all the prophets who were chosen by God to convey the Message to the creation. This message including descriptions of God in terms of His Names and Attributes and with a clear guidance on how to understand these. For example one of God's names is The Ever Living, this name is also an attribute of God. The Ever Living means, The one who has a complete perfect life that was not preceded by nothingness. He Has no beginning and no end. His life is not like the life of His creation. Another example: The All-Knowing This means He is the one who encompasses all things within His Knowledge. His knowledge is vast and complete and was never preceded by ignorance. There isn't a thing that God did not know and then became aware of by learning as is the case with the creation. A final example. God tells us that he will roll up the heavens and the earth in His right Hand on the the day of judgement. This Indicates that God has a Hand and that the function of a Hand is described for us. (Grabbing or grasping reaching etc.) This however does not mean that the Hand of God is as the hand of the creation. This is because God says about Himself in the Quran: "{There is nothing like unto Him and He is the All-Hearing, the All-Seeing.} " The prophets and messengers of God have described God to us through His Names and actions and Attributes, without comparing Him to anything and without twisting or changing the meanings of His Names and Attributes. God has simply aloud is to understand and know about Him what He wills. He is not a part of the creation or in need of it. He is exalted above everything they worship besides Him and exalted above every false description they make of Him. He is The One, The inevitable.

[@86645ut]

Yes, please give it up. All claims for such have either been falsified or are unfalsifiable. “We don’t know” is the only honest answer to the question, “Is there a God,”

[@juliangalindo9213]

God is a feeling,a thought,a vision, in everything and everyone until we know and feel it how can we know god.

[@madgodloki]

Any God with a mind is not perfect by the fact that minds are not perfect. So if you like to start debating what kind of unthinking unconscious God exists I'm very interested in hearing an argument about a God that has no intentions. Azathoth anyone?

[@enricocasin]

I don't understand, why these people in the comments seem so closed minded? I don't believe in god but I love entertaining the idea, reading and learning about the perspective of others about him. Why does talking about anything other than science make you people so bothered? God at the very least as he exists in the mind of believers, is a very interesting concept in my opinion, the way these sciency atheistic folks talk sounds like they are in some kind of secular religion. Please, Im genuinely curious, why the need to be this hard headed and defensive, no one here is questioning science, we are just curious humans like you questioning and exploring ideas about reality and our existence.

[@scottbaileyExplores]

Want to understand god? Study the rosicucians. Their craft seems to understand the tools to help one grasp the nature of the architect and it's duality.

[@albertjackson9236]

If you want to know what it is about god, you have to ask the creator of god, that would be man.

[@user-vs1cm8nv5i]

imagine a green world. if you lived in a green world, it would probably look a lot like this one, maybe exactly the same. you would have no idea the entire world was green. now, imagine somebody comes up to you one day, saying "hey by the way the entire universe is green." how would you react?

[@arthurwieczorek4894]

7:10. God as hypostation of mind, intelligence. Mind, apparently, without context, without a reality to have to deal with.

[@beamerUSA]

8:24

[@markanderson9753]

With all expansion he becomes more ov watt he iz...

[@madgodloki]

They make a lot of differentiation between we shouldn't assume God and we should assume it's not God. They're different yeah but God if you don't assume it is no different than not assuming magical unicorns exist.

[@duaneholcomb8408]

Its fascinating. Gravity is much like god it spans the universe. But it can't be seen. It has no mass or molecules. And we don't know really how the attraction works. We only see what we deem the. Effect of gravity. It's a the,phenomena. That we often call gravity. But there isno hard evidence. Of it. Just and effect of attraction. In the universe. But that's it,,,

[@beyondenigma-esotericsecre9175]

*EXISTENCE itself is proof to know there is a HIGHER* power. To say *otherwise is a HUGE fallacy! (Whether we want to anthropomorphize it or NOT!)* Thank YOU💖😇💖!

[@tomjackson7755]

Would you like to explain or just admit that it's false?

[@beyondenigma-esotericsecre9175]

​@@tomjackson7755 The debate usually goes towards if god is personal or not or literal. Atheism is usually based on the fact they don't believe in anything(true atheism) a "force" whether personal or not doesn't exist. If that's your type of "atheism" sadly you're in the league of fallacies(irrational thinking). Sorry I don't admit to fallacies because they're irrational. But I see others fall into it!

[@tomjackson7755]

@@beyondenigma-esotericsecre9175 So you can't explain it and you won't admit that it's false. Hmmm. Nihilism is not believing in anything, not the No True Scotsman fallacy of "true atheism". I didn't ask you to admit to any fallacy but your post already has them.

[@beyondenigma-esotericsecre9175]

@@tomjackson7755 You fail to realize that existence is proof enough to have a creator which is a logical argument. We're not arguing whether it's a personal god or not. For example a creator/source of creation to a physicist is "energy", that very well literally be god. And energy is a proven fact, ask Einstein. For example. A computer program has it' place of origin. A creator(now some programs can create other programs too). If you fail to see the logic in that then there's nothing I can do for you, good day

[@tomjackson7755]

@@beyondenigma-esotericsecre9175 You are wrong. Existence has to supersede a creator, otherwise the creator could not exist. Also if anything can be god then it is meaningless and not worth discussing.

[@Trevor_Green]

Always interesting to see some fairytales hold more reality in some people's than others. Might be a God, sure. If there is, I'd wager everything that I have and am that this God is nothing like any religion pretends they know is the true God. There Ya go theists - prove me wrong

[@HatRSol]

ACHRISTIANS are totally lost in their views of God's being, descriptions, attributes and characteristics; they seem to worship their own views of God instead of worshipping Him.

[@Cursed_Bower]

I like turtles

[@kajjjjjjjj]

i like island

[@paultorbert6929]

yall have some things in common, in a twisted way......... thats good.

[@corneliudanielene7159]

God is Rick Sancez!

[@realistic.optimist]

Perhaps humans are not even capable of defining who God is in terms we can understand? Once he created the rules of THE universe is even he capable of playing outside the rules? Could he have a triangle where the interior angles do not equal 180º?

[@jesssantiago1]

The people in this video are delusional for believing in things without EVIDENCE. These people are living a fantasy

[@johnbacsa1616]

There is evidence for minds in the universe, including our minds.

[@dankuchar6821]

There is evidence out there, but you have to look for it. Personally, I have had too many experiences that can not be explained away. There is more out there than our simple physical mortal existence.

[@jeffamos9854]

Living in a fantasy does not address whether theres a god or not and is irrelevant. I live in a fantasy every night and I am an atheist

[@JAYDUBYAH29]

Dan Kuchar aaaah yes too many anecdotes interpreted in an enculturated way make evidence unnecessary, right?

[@truebomba]

What is Evidence? Do you mean rational ones? I think it is delusional to think that we are rational in our beliefs and actions.

[@BrainConduit123]

Interviewing physicists, theologians, and philosophers is fine, but i would think that by including others who claim to have had some type of direct experience in the topic might provide another perspective. For example, many psychonauts and near death experiencers have reported profound and even life-changing encounters with what they describe as God.

[@sheenaalexis8710]

I agree. Add one or two of those NDE for example would be amazing. There is a lot of evidence there. Way too many people reporting the same thing's. Imo it's the best evidence there IS!

[@BrainConduit123]

@@sheenaalexis8710 Totally agree. It's like trying to figure out what Disney World is like without interviewing people that went there.

[@leolok2632]

The Buddha gave a perfect answer to the Q who is God? Does God exist? God is the absolute ultimate beyond of existence and non-existence. The Buddha just remained silent. For God cannot be defined by words, conscripts or human constructs. Laozi gave similar answer: The Way that can be said or described is not the Way道可道非常道. Perhaps God is beyond the dimension or realm of the human mind or understanding. The modern civilisation is overwhelmed or conditioned by the Western definition of God as described in the Christian Bible. As if God were like a person full of flaws of human emotions of jealousy, prejudice, vengeance, and of course also love, wisdom and compassion. God is symbolised as a judge and sanction morality, human conducts and behaviour. It would be great if Professor Lawrence Kuhn can interview Hindu gurus for their ideas. Perhaps the Spanish mystic put it beautifully: When you know yourself, you know God.

[@charlesbadrock]

The theist is out to prove the atheist is out to disprove I'm neither out to prove nor disprove whatever is is whatever is not is not

[@tracemiller9628]

An easy question,,,, there is a god, your mother and father. No one can deny the existence of that, god. God is at this point an infant, and not very good at creating new human beings. God is all bio electrical wave propagation of all the living beings in the universe over the entire deminsion of time. God will eventually know everything and be able to do anything. God is life in the universe.

[@jeffreyphillips4182]

Nothing but words. God is what you think it is, pure and simple. God is imaginary

[@dankuchar6821]

But you can't prove that. Because you can't prove God doesn't exist. Many people find evidence for the existence of God. Consider this, the current understanding of science is that we live in a multiverse that is infinitely old. So what if there's a being that's trillions of years old. What kind of power could he have? Enough to create another universe and maybe to populate it with his children? Some of them call him in just an alien. Others may call him a God. It's just a hypothesis, but it can't be proven wrong. Personally I have had experiences that I cannot deny that lead me to believe there is existence beyond this mortal one; and therefore, that God is real.

[@jeffreyphillips4182]

@@dankuchar6821 I don't have to prove it wrong because I'm not the one making fantastical claims about the ineffable. The burden of proof is on those making claims that have zero evidence to support those claims

[@jeffamos9854]

@@dankuchar6821 resolve your daddy issues. There is no god. Grow up

[@dankuchar6821]

@@jeffamos9854 Is there life beyond Earth? Don't you think that would be silly to assume there isn't. Is there life beyond this universe? Or are we the only life in existence? If you have a being that's a trillion years old what would you call him? Don't be so quick to discount what's possible. I don't think there is a God in the sense of what people consider, mainly the Trinity. I think that's ridiculous. That's not the only option though. And I find your attempt to insult me by telling me to grow up and get over my daddy issues to be childish. Certainly if you have an intellectual argument to make you can be more eloquent than that. But maybe not.

[@dankuchar6821]

@zempath Hey I totally agree, I think most of their concepts of God are completely wrong. But just because they're wrong doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. Maybe they're just looking for the wrong God. Maybe they have the concept of God completely messed up. I'm not so quick to discount the possibility of a being that lives outside of our universe. Certainly there is life beyond Earth. And I think it would be silly to assume that if evolution happened here it only happened once in the entire multiverse. So what if there's beings that are trillions of years old and can travel between universes. What would you call them? Some people would call them Gods. So maybe people just have their understanding of God to be completely wrong. But you can't prove God doesn't exist. It's a simple fact you can't prove anything doesn't exist. All you can do is offer support that something does exist. I think trying to prove God exists scientifically is pointless. Because it can't be done. Science is not about proving the existence of God. That's a philosophical argument. unless of course some indisputable evidence is made and shown that there is a God. It is something that people have to find on their own. Personally I have had experiences that I cannot explain any other way. I don't expect anybody else to understand unless they've had those same experiences.

[@User-jr7vf]

I'm the god of the comments since I'm the first to comment

[@jackmabel6067]

You will receive many gold stars for this in the afterlife ... if there is an afterlife.

[@oneworldonehome]

"God is the experience of total relationship." "God permeates all things, lives within all things and yet is beyond all things-all at the same time." "Believing in God may be preliminary to knowing God, but believing and knowing are not the same. Many people claim they believe in God, either because they believe or because they are afraid not to believe. However, to know God is to come into relationship with God." “God has a Mind, a Will and a Purpose. In its totality, this is incomprehensible to you now, for you cannot stand apart from this Mind, this Will and this Purpose and be able to discern their meaning. You can only join with them, and the extent to which you can join with them will be the extent to which you will experience their reality, their value and their immediate necessity in your life.” “The Presence of God is first experienced as emptiness because it lacks movement, and then within this emptiness, you begin to feel the Presence that permeates all things and that gives all meaning in life.” “People are very adamant that God should come and make the world exactly the way they want it, but God has other plans. God’s intention is to free everyone here so that they may return to their Ancient Home. So instead of making the world a perfect place for your separation to exist, God has set in motion the forces to break your separation down. Very loving this is.” "God must enter a world where God is not welcome, in ways that do not generate fear and panic amongst those who believe the world is their only reality. It is for this reason that the Will of God manifests itself in subtle and ingenious ways in this world." “God does not discriminate. God is not delighted with the religious and angry with the unreligious. God has placed the saving Grace within each person. The real purpose of religion is to bring people to this saving Grace. Religion in all of its forms is intended to do this. Even though religion has taken on other manifestations and assumed other purposes and in many cases has been adopted by political forces, this is its fundamental purpose-to bring you to Knowledge, to bring you to this deeper guiding intelligence that the Creator of all life has placed within you and within each person as a potential.” "God is like the air. Everyone breathes the air, but few pay any attention to it. Everyone is sustained every moment with every breath. Their bodies depend upon each breath in order to live in the next moment. Cut off this supply of air and the person dies quickly and everything comes to an end. God is like that-so pervasive, so present, so supportive and so nourishing." Here are several quotes about God, from The New Message from God for our time. To see or hear what God has to say to today's individual please visit *newmessage org*

[@jeffreyphillips4182]

I'm betting you don't know any more about God than anyone else, even with all your wordy explanation. Like you, I have an opinion about God as well. God is imaginary

[@GeoCoppens]

@@jeffreyphillips4182 Right!

[@bazstrutt8247]

Ivan You gullible fool

[@jeffreyphillips4182]

@@bazstrutt8247 what's that in scripture about calling someone a fool?

[@bazstrutt8247]

Jeffrey Phillips Dunno... I’m a life long atheist

[@piushalg8175]

There must not be a contradiction between this very abstract concept of God as being itself and God as being an entity of some sort you can have a personal relationship. At least the great philosopher and theologian Thomas Aquinas didn't seem to have this kind of difficulty. Alas, for myself this is not the case so far.

[@alikarimi-langroodi5402]

What is it about God is what you can think of it. The reality is documented in black and white. What you understand from it may be completely different. People study the scripts all their lives, generation after generation. One cannot understand God completely. He says it Himself: 'You can search for me, but you won't be able to find me'. You are asking others what they think of God, something others can't find totally anyway? Indians used to say knowledge is like what blind men know about an elephants. All the blind will have to touch the elephant to guess what it may be. You guess will be as good as mine.

[@alikarimi-langroodi5402]

What is it about God? kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmLWaoKHeLqflZo What is it about God is what you can think of it. The reality is documented in black and white, for centuries. What you may understand from it may be completely different from anyone else’s. Interpretations are always different, but the truth about a common belief is the same. People study the scripts all their lives, generation after generation. One cannot understand God completely. He says it Himself: 'You can search for me, but you won't be able to find me'. You are asking others what they think of God, something others can't find totally anyway? Indians used to say knowledge is like what blind men know about elephants. All the blind will have to touch the elephant to guess what it may be. Your guess will be as good as mine.