What is Kevin Spacey HIDING? Body Language Analyst Reacts!

[@christialuella6594]

What about the caveat of “what I was accused of”

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Good catch, two things come to mind 1) he’s not guilty of what he’s accused of, he’s guilty of some other stuff. Again, I think it’s very clear he acted in inappropriate ways, he knows he did some stuff that’s not right. So the caveat can be an acknowledgment of that. He’s acknowledged in many places that he acted in ways he no longer would or that he now understands were inappropriate so I would imagine he doesn’t feel entirely absolved of all guilt. 2) the obvious thing would be to name the charges “I was found not guilty of SA, SH, R …..” but I know, more than anyone, how aware people who make videos are of the words we’re not supposed to use. And given the platforms he’s been on recently I’m sure he was told to not say certain words. So the distancing language can be exactly that. Distancing haha Thanks for watching and pointing out a great verbal catch 😊

[@Beray02]

@@TheBehavioralArts I wouldn't see this as too much of a thing, because honestly who isn't guilty of something? That's what I would hear from a statement of that "What i was accused of", that's what he's on "trial" for whether in court or public opinion. There's likely a billion other things in his life that people could scrutinize him for or anyone for that matter. If he were to come out and just be like "I'm not guilty of anything." then that opens up to this clip being played the moment the next scandal comes out. "But you said this", it's quite clear his goal is to build back up his reputation and I presume to try and get back into acting on somewhat close to a scale as he once was. Which comes with needing to not only do these interview to address the present and past Kevin but also to address the future Kevin.

[@Littlehoof]

Wouldn’t a truly remorseful person plainly say , “what I did.” ? I agree he is trying to regain a career and recover financial losses.

[@DawnDavidson]

@@Littlehoof if he said that though, it might sound like he did the stuff, was accused of doing it, but somehow found not guilty through his own or others’ machinations. It raises unnecessary questions, so that’s not what he wants to say. He’s trying to say he was found not guilty of the particular things he was “accused of” and to state or imply that he didn’t actually DO those things. As others including Spidey mentioned, specifying the accusations could cause issues with the video being able to be played on YT or elsewhere. It’s pretty clear that he’s no angel, so a categorical denial (eg, “I’m innocent!” Or “I didn’t do anything wrong”) would just invite further scrutiny and criticism, in addition to being something he wouldn’t be able to say 100% truthfully. I hear someone who is very carefully choosing his words.

[@christialuella6594]

Thank you everybody for your feedback! He’s a great actor so something just doesn’t compute fully with my intuition… thinking of Usual Suspects… chilling! He’s been cancelled well enough for “what he was accused of”

[@kaydevious]

Google is really going overboard with the censorship lately. The fact that you're required to beep out that word in this conversation or risk being demonetized or hit with a strike is ridiculous. There's a difference between policing actually hurtful and dangerous dialogue and some paternalistic compulsion to infantilize the audience. Just to clarify, this isn't a criticism of this channel, it's of KZbin. You're just playing by their ridiculous rules. Love the channel.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Ha thanks, it gets tough sometimes. But I don’t think anyone at Google is sitting there looking at this thinking it’s inappropriate. It’s that the way they catch content is an automated system that get triggered with certain words. It gets rough sometimes to navigate but it is what it is 😊. Thanks for putting up with it

[@amandaburnham8626]

That's why so many true crime channels use patreon to keep up with content. I agree it's ridiculous, but good content is still important from reliable sources. Spidey is definitely a good source! 😊

[@domif8276]

Exactly - to infantilize the audience, meanwhile they don't see any problem with showing children videoclips of the modenrn 'artists' with all this sexualized behaviours...

[@mikaeldk5700]

Agree

[@TheRealShedLife]

The editing on here is so good. Compare this channel to the behavioral panel where they do their analysis and then replay the thing we already watched. Here, the editor is putting in the references that Spidey is talking about AS he's talking about them. BP is fun, but this channel's presentation is superior.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Thanks that means a lot especially because I AM the editor haha. People ask me why I don’t hire an editor. This is exactly why.

[@kjergens1]

The editing and presentation are really good and make the video easy to follow. Plus Spidey is so sincere and careful with his analysis. Such great stuff.

[@kitnkatnz]

BP do that so you can see again what they are talking about and to give the chance to apply what they've just said. But I like Spidey's editing too 👌🏻 clean and precise. Just like his analysis is 😊

[@holembac]

Yes BP​ do that too. Maybe the main commenter missed their recent videos@@kitnkatnz

[@RareInTheHistory]

I completely agree! It makes it very easy to pick out the exact moments referenced and prevents accidentally thinking a different moment/movement is the one referenced and then going forward on incorrect knowledge. Spidey is also constantly referencing and citing the research which I love seeing the foundation of the knowledge!

[@crissantos44]

Very unbiased analysis as always. As for Kevin Spacey, my professional opinion is that whatever he did was morally wrong, but not criminally punishable And that's enough for me. I always say "we don't judge people, we judge actions". My lived experience tells me that he was punished far beyond his moral lacking demanded. He was vilified much more than people that do deserve to be vilified haven't been. And in the face of such injustice he decided to look within and try to be a bettee person for the future. He's not pointing fingers, because he knows he has no power over what others say or do, so he's working on what he has power on, which is himself. Very stoic of him, and i commend him for it. The majority of people chastising him and commenting on how bad and guilty he is will never have half the courage to look inside themselves and improve their behavior. And i say this as a person that isnt even a fan of the man, only movie of his i rememeber watching was the usual suspects, and he was the bad guy...

[@debbiebrowne-gudat5170]

Totally agree. Well, the exception being I do like his movies. Couldn't have put it better myself.

[@jelyfisher]

I agree as well. He seems to sincerely want to have a better character.

[@thekeysman6760]

@crissantos44 What is your profession, please?

[@crissantos44]

@@thekeysman6760 rather not say, but you can infer from what I said.

[@lyallg7925]

Beautifully put.

[@Slayqueenatron]

I pose a different angle on the Ghislaine Maxwell part- I believe Kevin Spacey would ordinarily find out and pronounce it PERFECTLY because he takes such pride in his acting. He loves showing off his skills - the fact he is calling her “that Maxwell woman” tells me he is purposefully distancing himself. Let’s be real, he CAN say her name and he’s choosing not to.

[@mangloscl]

For the first silent moment, he kept his eyes watching the host, always checking back. He seems to be gauging response more than reporting a story.

[@ladyprosecutor603]

In the US criminal justice system, people are not found “innocent.” They are found “not guilty” which has a different meaning. “Not guilty” means the jury decided that the prosecution did not prove the charge “beyond a reasonable doubt.”

[@harryevans1111]

I believe the case he’s referring to was in the UK. Also, I believe they counter sued for damages by proving the claims were untrue, not just finding reasonable doubt. That’s why he was awarded $40k back. So in that sense, he actually did get found “innocent”.

[@redelfshotthefood8213]

Yes. But if a case is mounted by the prosecution, it often succeeds. Even when it's wrong. (DNA overturning murder trial results years later. These cases show the system is broken.)

[@BeardedApostle]

your forgetting the key element of modern western justice, you are "presumed innocent, unless found guilty" so a not guilty verdict simply maintains that status quo of "being presumed innocent" A defendant does not have to "prove" their innocence. That is presumed as a fact. The prosecution must "prove" their guilt. So de facto, if you are "not" found "guilty," your "are" innocent, because you always were.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

@@BeardedApostle not guilty doesn't mean innocent, it just means there's doubt

[@thekeysman6760]

OP, it's 'guilty', 'not guilty', and 'beyond a reasonable doubt' in inverted commas implying so-called or supposedly. Not quotation marks.

[@Paradise-on-Earth]

I find you SO incredibly authentic and fair. YOu never slaughter someone for getting something for yourself, and I value that SO MUCH. Thank you for being so high minded! Such a pleasure to see.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Thank you so much 😊 it really means a lot that you appreciate the way I approach analysis

[@aphroditekatsika2874]

About the scene where Kevn Spacey gives a little smile after saying "that may be true", I honestly think that he realized that he messed it up with that statement, which was honestly an invitation for more questions. He felt unprepared to answer that question, and basically told on himself, and that little smile was his way of acknowledging that he messed up.

[@valeriesjourney17]

My gut reaction is that he isn't distancing himself from his actions but has been reflecting on them and making changes. 🦋👩‍🦰

[@mrwhatever1970]

There could be another explanation for why Kevin adjusts his tie, looks at someone to his left, and picks lint off his sleeve while the clip is playing of Scott, the Marine, telling his Private Ryan story: Kevin probably thought he wasn’t on camera. I’ve been in TV studios myself - it’s quite common for makeup to be touched up, clip-on mics or clothing to be adjusted during video playbacks. Kevin has probably seen this scene and just about every other one from this sensationalist slander show repeatedly. So it might have been equally boring and stressful for him to have to wait for this scene to finish before he can respond to it.

[@BuddhaStephy]

Kevin Spacey has ALWAYS been my favorite actor. When all of this came out, I firmly stood behind him when everyone was repeating all of these accusations and talking about what a scumbag he was. I couldnt really articulate why I felt as I did or why he is my favorite actor until now and it being confirmed and explained by you in your analyses. He has a humbled nature and has the ability to self reflect and is very genuine and honest when he speaks. He takes accountability and doesnt make excuses. You can feel those traits and their presence in his energy. I really have no other way to describe it. That IS WHY he is my favorite actor. We all need to get checked from time to time as we all go through moments where our egos get a bit inflated or we feel entitled or act a bit cringe. The ability to look at those moments and check ourselves and recognize our errors and learn from them is what helps us grow spiritually and mentally. I maintain my support and love for Kevin Spacey. He is definitely my GOAT. Thanks Spidey. I appreciate you.

[@harryevans1111]

Spidey, you could do a whole episode just on the mistakes, misperceptions, and misunderstandings that have been typed into the comments. Wild stuff considering what you teach weekly!

[@kathyd2595]

Wow, I SO agree with you! I’ve read many, and I think it’s surprising that ‘members’ obviously aren’t paying attention to Spidey’s teachings. Maybe he needs to see which ones need a remediation course!😉😄

[@RNthe21st]

I greatly appreciate how Spidey takes the time to articulate his respect to everyone involved, whether it was Kevin Spacey and the things we may or may not know about him, or the victims of his alleged crimes, or us as viewers. Thank you Spidey, sir.

[@SuzannePada]

Well, first Kevin Spacey is a good actor in my opinion, I saw certainly a few pictures of his, but he never caught my eye, like others, like say, Johnny Depp.... I mention this to say that I don't know much to nothing about him, or about the accusations, sure, heard about it at the sidelines, but never invested time into more detail. Second, I consider myself having a good intuition, a good gut feeling and I can read people within seconds. This as a ''baseline'' to stay in the lingo, I watched your analysis and another one beforehand, that's all! Based on these two tidbits I saw from this interview with Pierce Morgan, I could say that he's truly remorseful, he truly vows betterment, and he really feels bad NOT for himself, but for the people involved! I believe that he's more shocked about the reactions towards his behavior than we could fathom. He's a good-natured man, he might have struggled with his ego and arrogant bouts, but nothing with malice, or calculating, or even plain out mean. No, he didn't see any bad in all what he did and he shouldn't have done. He wants to work again, and not for money, or fame, but just because it's his job, and he enjoys it. Being so totally cut off from every single opportunity must have been devastating for him, not mentioning the financial aftermath. I think Kevin Spacey is sincere in this interview, he doesn't want to deceive, he isn't calculated or weighting out his chances. Wishing him the best, and that now he will return to filming and give us some more awesome movies!

[@davehall8584]

I totally agree with what you said here....this is my gut reaction too..and it is rarely wrong...

[@slysampss]

He did a Christmas speech in front of a fire place. He quotes "I kill them with kindness" see if your gut still says the same after viewing.

[@SuzannePada]

@@slysampss And your point is?

[@pamelac.3241]

He should know that Hollywood takes great pleasure in raising you up, and then watching you fall too.

[@buleberryjam177gaming7]

Something is totally " off" giving creepy vibes in this interview. I just don't believe what he is saying , I am sure there are so many more victims keeping quiet. If Hollywood thought they could make money out of him he would be employed BUT no one probably wants to work with him or he is past his sell by date.

[@JadwigaChristinaMicor]

Funny, the 'looking up right and left' comment around min. 9., I heard for the first time in a Kevin Spacey movie called: "The Negotiator". Ironic.

[@ligairi]

This opening moment with the sound off is brilliant. Alfred Hitchcock used to say you should be able to watch his films with the sound off and follow what was happening. That probably had more to do with technique and the language of filmic storytelling, but this takes it to a new level. Definitely we know some of these things intuitively, but this also shows me how much I’ve learned from watching your channel.

[@dianneantonio9293]

When he leaned in, hands moving, eyebrows up, but we have to remember he's an actor. He has STUDIED every body part ( no pun intended) to know exactly what he's communicating . He knows how to trick.

[@hlnmarie]

Then why didn't he?

[@redelfshotthefood8213]

Versus a practiced interviewer like Piers Morgan it's dueling experts. Because interviewers can be antagonists more often than celebrants. Because antagonisms sells.

[@Jochms]

Specially after his role on House of Cards. He reminded me of Frank Underwood so much during this..

[@rubynibs]

Spacey isn't just "an actor"; Spacey is a top actor. Spacey's acting chops are well developed. Do I trust anything he says? No. I do, however, find him a fascinating study in what sets one actor a cut above the rest.

[@Jochms]

He even said in this interview he was thriving to be and "The best actor"​@@rubynibs

[@gdansk12349]

He was just smiling because it’s a comical situation in the end.

[@BrightenUs]

Thank you Spidey. I love your channel. ❤️ Your analyses are very educational, and the way you edit to show what you are describing is really useful. And I love that you interact with your followers so much and so beautifully in the comments. 🤗

[@TheBehavioralArts]

My pleasure! Thanks for the kind words and encouraging my passion ❤️

[@HopeBarger08]

Your videos are so entertaining and informative. I love the beginning with no sound...love this

[@MariaCosta-qe4wm]

I was so waiting for you to cover this Spidey, thank you! You're the only one I trust to really notice all the little details. Going to grab some popcorn now!

[@jaclyng23]

I wish it would have been asked about his weird “advertisement/commercial” where he was his house of cards character. So strange and would have liked to hear why he did that.

[@Cf.8463]

Same. That was so f’ing creepy when it came out

[@thekeysman6760]

'Advertisement/commercial' in inverted commas implying so-called or supposedly. Not quotation marks.

[@jaclyng23]

@@thekeysman6760 neat

[@thekeysman6760]

@@jaclyng23 'Correct', not neat.

[@Cf.8463]

@@thekeysman6760 you must be attending Harvard with that strong grammatical acumen

[@P.willow]

Something Bill Clinton about him. "That woman " very familiar line of a sentence.

[@shawnalrea]

Thank you for your analysis and insight! I agree with you: I think he's paid enough of a price for his actions (losing his career, reputation, his finances). From what I've heard, I think he hasn't been really aware of how his actions have hurt others. He's been maybe naive or tone deaf that his groping and assaultive behaviors weren't just "caressing" or "falling in love" with someone. I believe that he wants to be a better person, and I think he should be given that chance. Another point I'll just make is he is a gay man in his 60s. Being gay is a lot more acceptable now, but back in the '60s and '70s when he was growing up, things were very rough for a gay person. Most of them grew up thinking they were wrong and bad and being ashamed of their true essence. Maybe the emotions/confusion associated with being gay in that era is what led him to lack awareness about his actions as a gay man who has all this power and prestige as a renowned actor. Just a thought and my personal opinion. But I feel like he has awareness of his wrongdoings and should be given another chance. He is a phenomenal actor, he is eloquent, and I feel he has a good heart! But I always, always appreciate what a compassionate person you are, Spidey. You aren't just judging and trying to rip people (who are all just other flawed humans on the planet), and I love that! xoxo

[@katethegrape7074]

Spidey! You're always on point with what I want to hear about 👏 Thank you for your videos!

[@hdnft4633]

I think the last clip sums up a lot about him and the path he’s taken. I wouldn’t paint him as a saint, but I understand where he is coming from.

[@peoplenoodlesoup]

Everyone also knows who Maxwell is. It’s a little weird to me that he’s throwing in, that woman. I get what you are saying. There isn’t enough to know for sure. I lean more towards its distancing. Because everyone knows Maxwell as a name alone at this point. MAYBE if he only said “that Maxwell woman” once, I wouldn’t question it-but twice….we definitely have established who is being talked about at that point.

[@natedammann6998]

A friend of mine overheard a video of yours I was watching of the Katt Williams interview where I explained who you are and what you do. That sparked a great conversation and I said to her I wished he would do Kevin Spacey because after hearing the accusations and videos bashing I found myself being a complete empathetic. Angry with him and angry with the accusers as well. I couldn't help feeling upset because I really thought the world of him as a person and actor. So this video did clear a little of that. We're human. We make mistakes. Now we all see him be human. He is not so different from any other person. He made some mistakes. He could and should of done better, but he admits it and is working on being that person who does better. Respect gained but not fully restored. I have faith in people and wish everyone the very best. Thank you for your insight and your hard work on the matter. ✌️

[@Fifi_Is_My_Name-O]

Wow, I really respect your response and can relate to it... when you said that you were angry with both him and his accusers because you had thought the world of him as both a person and an actor... that's how I felt at first with Bill Cosby and Johnny Depp (as well as Kevin Spacey)... With Bill Cosby, I believe (through the facts and evidence) that he 'did the thing(s)' and is guilty and I'm left with profound disappointment and disgust. With Johnny Depp, I watched the entire trial, saw and heard all the evidence and am overwhelmingly convinced that he has serious drug and alcohol issues that he is or has been dealing with, but despite that, he is a very good human being and did not do any of the things that he was accused of... and on the flip side of that, Amber Heard was clearly the abuser... So far as Kevin Spacey goes, the fact that he's willing to air all of the dirty laundry by taking legal action (and winning), I think he's being genuine and truthful. But unlike JD, I think he does have an arrogant past and many more personal faults and I do think that all that has happened has caused him to sincerely reflect upon himself and try to make positive changes... I think time will tell, but I'm with you in giving him the benefit of the doubt for now and, as you said, "respect gained but not fully restored". Note: I take the part about being angry with the accusers as not whether or not they are telling the truth (because in Bill Cosby's case, they were telling the truth), it's an anger more at the situation in that it shatters your perspective and makes you angry at having to contemplate whether or not you've been duped by this person you've looked up to... it's like the old saying, "don't shoot the messenger"... not sure if that explains it very well (or even makes sense)... or you may have an entirely different meaning than that.

[@Fifi_Is_My_Name-O]

I have seen many Kevin Spacey movies over the years and I consider him to be one of THE best actors around. He did a death scene in one movie many years ago in which he died with his eyes open and you could see the light and life leave his body just through his eyes, it was incredible... Knowing what an amazing actor he is makes it hard to watch him being interviewed without wondering "is he acting"... but that being said, I don't think he's acting, I think he's genuinely remorseful, that he's self-reflecting and trying to become a better person... but time will tell if he accomplishes that. I hope so.

[@firenze5555]

I don't think he's such a great actor - he always plays some sort of a creep - which is playing himself.

[@airedale01]

What movie with the death scene please!

[@Fifi_Is_My_Name-O]

@@airedale01 Hmmm... I guess KZbin doesn't allow linking other clips in their comments... I found the movie, it was "L.A. Confidential", Spoiler Alert if you haven't seen the movie... the clip is titled "L.A. Confidential (6/10) Movie CLIP - Rollo Tomasi (1997) HD", search that on youtube, the channel is "Movieclips"

[@Fifi_Is_My_Name-O]

@@airedale01 L.A. Confidential

[@DawnDavidson]

@@Fifi_Is_My_Name-O thanks! Makes me want to watch it. That sounds top notch!

[@KassalynnMarriner]

Hey Spidey, can I just say - as a general comment - I love your engagement and responsiveness to your KZbin community, something that is not always a given with video channels. Also, although this is off topic of the SPACEY video (which I watched and was impressed by its high quality, as always), will you be analyzing this evening's Presidential debate anytime soon? I along with many others I am sure would anxiously await your perspective, that we know will be dispassionate, well rounded, and informative!

[@atomic_xfire]

You've really outdone yourself with the Spacey coverage. What an interesting bit of content. We very rarely see such a character arc in a person. I'm not saying he has one hundred percent changed- but what seems evidenced is that he 'has changed' in some manner. And to see how he views those changes and how he sees his general contemptuous treatment is fascinating. I also really like the silent bit to challenge how we think about things you share. It really solidifies that we are picking up on these cues and can identify them on our own without effort or verbal context.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed the little game and I agree with you so much. This is a great example of nuance in the real world, the man isn’t a saint but there seems to be some real reflection about his past behaviors.

[@elavinder]

​@@TheBehavioralArtsI'm not buying a word of it. I can feel in my body when someone is being genuine. This guy is not.

[@MissyChelle]

@Spidey THANK YOU SO MUCH. You are consistently teaching me new things. I was born in the 60’s so I was fortunate enough to grow up on Saturday morning cartoons. I lived for Saturday morning cartoons. Needless to say as I've grown what I find entertaining and look forward to on Saturday mornings is your video releases. Thank you for everything

[@gdansk12349]

Let this man be! Ffs. Obviously money chasing accusers after him

[@Atsoky]

I find the way he handled the questions about King Charles and his costar from House of Cards really interesting. He really didn't lean into Charles' support and he refused to use her lack of contact to present himself as a victim. But, at the same time, he used that one word, 'directly', along with that little smile, to casually indicate that there was indeed support from the king in some manner. And, in the same way, he stressed the month and the year his costar contacted him for the last time, while at the same time not letting the host badmouth her. So, he managed to stay humble AND get his message across. I'm not saying I blame him... I'm not saying I don't... It's just a very diplomatic way of getting his message across.

[@VirginiaGeorge]

I wonder if the “directly” could also be to couch it if someone comes later and says they know so-and-so talked to him on behalf of King Charles. This way he’s being honest and there’s no “gotcha” moment. And I suspect knowing the date he last had contact with his costar could coincide when he left the show or these allegations took off. I don’t know for sure, but these would be plausible explanations as to why these two things occurred as they did.

[@SheZ232]

I really appreciated the extra clips of pierce trying to tally who’s with and against Kevin. Great observations.

[@Radenshaal]

Just a very pedantic correction, that in our courts we don't pronounce people innocent. We pronounce people guilty or not guilty, since we deem them having not met a burden of proof required for criminal guilt. The difference being evident in cases such as OJ where he was found guilty in a civil trial for the same crime, but where the burden of proof is lower in civil cases, since it won't face criminal sentencing, but civil which is monetary. A judgement of innocence would have different entailment, since then we are saying "he has not done this", rather than "the burden of proof has not been met to find guilt". We still use a presumption of innocence, but we don't declare innocence if that makes sense.

[@TheElbowMerchant]

Very well articulated. Thank you.

[@kevand.laxalt5580]

Thank you! I thought the Spidey’s point of “he was found innocent in court” somewhat weak and hypocritical, especially after his video on OJ. The outcome of a court case does not indicate whether someone is truly guilty or not - it only means that particular court case could not prove guilt or the jury/judge did not have enough evidence to legally find someone guilty. In Spacey Unmasked, there was even a mention of certain evidence not being heard in court. Court cases can have many pieces of evidence blocked or thrown out. Spacey relies heavily on pointing out his court case findings (“I am not guilty”) instead of denying the incidents happened, which makes sense for him. But Spidey? I’m surprised he gave as much credence to it as he did in this video. Still love this channel and Spidey though.

[@truecrimeboozer]

The Scottish courts have a third option - 'not proven'.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

@@truecrimeboozer right and in America not guilty doesn't mean I'm innocent

[@ToolTalkChannel]

@@truecrimeboozerand it all goes back to our shared “oppression” by the British… the quotes aren’t to say that they didn’t happen, but with a longer view of history Britain didn’t invent empire. It was an import from the Roman’s… I always loved the story of Boudicca. It proves that they people had to figure something out in order to break calculated military influence from a “distant shore”. Edit: I’d just add that part of my heritage is British, but also PNW Native American. The British treated people in different places differently, and it’s probable that we were simply too faraway to directly antagonize, but it’s also true that when Lewis and Clark reached the my people there were traders that spoke English. They, the Brit’s, didn’t realize they were even on the same land mass for all I know at the time… it’s a long trip around Africa and Asia and then that far south down the continent.

[@elavinder]

Love that "game" at the beginning. The moment of emphasis was in the middle of the clip when his eyebrows raised and his hands came forward.

[@scillataylor3883]

It’s hard to admit to having had faults. I hope everyone commenting here would have that courage.

[@goodkill1]

He's an actor 😂 he gets paid to be act. I don't believe him.

[@juliegerasimenko200]

I can’t believe it but I even read his lips “I’m not guilty” I totally second guessed myself though! Was so excited when you played it with sound, lol. Gives me a little confidence boost in my body language reading skills 😂

[@folkloreofbeing]

I can naturally lip-read but only if it's someone with an English accent like mine. If it's a stronger British accent, or an English-as-a-second language, it's much more difficult. Makes sense though doesn't it, because I spend more time talking with folks from my own region.

[@corasaari1021]

I love that “arguing from a conclusion”. That’s exactly what they did in the Karen Read investigation and the jury couldn’t agree on a verdict.

[@evyl0076]

here is the problem i have - word choice...'i'm not guilty...of what i am being accused of.' word choic is STILL important too!

[@redelfshotthefood8213]

Yes. That answer implies some nuggets of truth.

[@Gabrielle4870]

Avoiding mentioning the crime one is accused of is a dead giveaway.

[@Muskrat_squeezer]

@@Gabrielle4870spacey is guilty. He just got away with it. He is a danger to children.

[@FionaC1]

22:32 Three big things here: 1) I’m not sure you are so generous when others provide too much additional information? 2) Why is he talking about the accuser’s troubled lives? That is not a measure of whether they were abused. 3) He is apparently fine with someone sharing about inappropriate sexual advances only because they didn’t take legal action. So the issue in his mind is that people want him to be punished for what he is doing rather than that he did inappropriate things?

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

You're number 2 point, I need to point this out before even watching this. It's very very common for people who are struggling in some way to be targeted as they are easier to manipulate and take advantage of and use the fact that they are troubled in some way is a reason to not take their accusations seriously and dismiss claims.

[@FionaC1]

@@Sarah-with-an-H yes!

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

@@FionaC1 it's absolutely disturbing to me. Kevin Spacy while I don't think he ended these people's lives I also recognize he's not the man you'd want to or could trust to not abuse you.

[@TheMinimalistTherapist]

​@@Sarah-with-an-H Great point! I think to the number 2 point, I agree, in general. In this specific case I didn't read it as Spacey victim blaming around the people's frailties. He largely spoke about their difficulties because they were contextually relevant...for example, he was making the point that the person with cancer died of cancer (not being killed by someone), that one of the accusers was actually stalker (and gave examples to show that to be true). The one where I didn't agree was with the example of the Marine. It's not uncommon for abuses of power to really mess with decisions someone makes around contact with the perpetrator. Richard Gadd is a great example of that, with the Darrien character. It's really not a straightforward relationship. Just because he was emailing Spacey trying to get work or happening to meet up with him socially, doesn't exonerate Spacey. However, I find Spacey to be completely credible in this situation. The Marine had the incident VERY closely tied to that specific movie, so its unlikely he got the wrong movie. He was describing how the worst scenes of battle juxtaposed with what he said Spacey was doing at that moment. The body language when Piers asked if he'd ever seen Saving Private Ryan was grounded, still, no additional word based qualifiers or movements in his face or body, just a sure and certain "No". We saw the same with Fiona Harvey when Piers asked if she'd ever been convicted of anything.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

@@TheMinimalistTherapist right, I'm also coming from the position of a person with C-PTSD who's become hypervilgent and I notice very small things people that haven't hat to be hypervilgent to protect themselves from harm won't notice in situations they are distanced from like in this case I'm not involved so it's something where I can analyze from a very safe distance. If I'm directly in it it creates panic fear and a freeze response

[@grlwthgrniis]

I always learn something new watching your videos, thank you. I'm a trauma RN and I use what I learn from you not just dealing with patients, but with my staff as I'm the DON where I work. Believe it or not, but patients lie all the time about why they come into the ER. Watching your videos allows me to use your techniques to get the information from them that I need; "what are you here for"!?! Drugs, work note, Rx, wanting to be transferred to the hospital for admission... Whatever, lol

[@Heydeemua]

People are saying that norwegian Ari Behn was one of the accusers, which Spacey is mentioning here. He was married to Princess Martha Louise of Norway, and they divorced. He was dealing with depression and took his own life. He never accused Kevin Spacey. I listened to him telling the story of when he met him and he laughed about it and never took it seriously

[@phizc]

It's still probably Ari Behn he was referring to after the stalker. All the details fit.

[@ladybunny9328]

Eyebrows up for approval- leaning forward and baton gesturing his prayer hands up and down towards Piers Morgan

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Haha someone knows their technical terms! Great job

[@nullpointer1984]

Love the video, thanks for making it!

[@TheBehavioralArts]

My pleasure! Thanks for watching it 😊

[@therapy454]

@@TheBehavioralArts😮

[@P.willow]

I couldn't wait to see u do this analysis. Such a great channel. 😊

[@Hadesworld23]

I believe he did see his inappropriate behaviour in the past, but that ultimately he also owned he had done things wrong too, he seemed very genuine

[@Tzippora100]

I love how honest you are. No biases, that's what I love about your content 💯

[@Somegirl811]

I usually think these body language videos are overconfident or just nonsensical, but this one is very convincing without exaggerating the certainty or oversensationalizing the content. I feel smarter after watching it. Lol Great presentation!

[@paigemcentire5446]

I love being a part of this community. I don't really pay attention to this celeb stuff much, but in the past that meant I would hear something (say about Heard v Depp) and immediately agree with the victim. But, upon further look everything is more complicated, as in Depp v Heard or this situation. And really, this reminds me that some people may have done bad things, but they are capable of change, and that doesn't mean we should just "cancel" them and not listen any further. Thank you for continuing to remind us that people, situations, and life are complicated, and we need grace, understanding, and critical thinking skills

[@carleyroi3583]

I caught that eyebrow flash in the first segment with no sound right away thanks to you teaching all of us how much that means in a conversation.

[@schtoobs]

Glad to hear "not guilty" for Kevin Spacey. Given that I know fuck all about the man personally or the truth about what actually happened, that HAS to be enough. Not guilty is the best he could get so I feel I must consider him the most not guilty he could be, which is completely innocent.

[@matrix1111anon]

I think the reason Kevin said he never saw Saving Private Ryan is because the other guy was detailed in his story, and was appalled about a specific scene regarding Normandy, like something he never forgot, to nail it as fact. Kevin’s response makes sense to me.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Kevin didn’t say he never saw Saving Private Ryan. Piers said it, Kevin confirmed it, Kevin didn’t choose to say much of anything here but he addressed the whole thing in great detail in his interview with Dan Wootton, if you haven’t seen it, check it out, a lot of great info there.

[@tiffypop803]

When he started picking the lint off his sleeve, I was thinking it was a way for him to be dismissive. Almost like "this little piece of lint deserves my time more than entertaining his ridiculous story." I'm not taking sides, just wondering if that could've been his perspective. As always, Spidey, I look forward to your videos!

[@TheBehavioralArts]

That’s a great assumption and possibility, this is why we look for clusters, lint picking is not an indication of deception it’s an indication of distraction and stress, we can speculate every reason that may happen but when 10 other things are suddenly happening that can be related to stress, we now have a cluster worth examining. 😊

[@tiffypop803]

Gotcha. I didn't realize the clusters started before the lint picking

[@323azteca]

1:44 the moment he raises his browse, lean forward and assent with his head and hands. Here, he is emphasizing something important.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

🎯 🥇

[@FionaC1]

Have you watched the ‘unmasking Kevin Spacey’ documentary? It would be nice to see the balance of you listening to his victims, family and acquaintances too

[@TheElbowMerchant]

Agreed. I'd love to see Spidey analyze those interviews as well. Getting both sides could be even more illuminating.

[@harryevans1111]

Worst documentary I’ve seen in years. Shameless hit piece. I went in thinking I was going to learn to hate Spacey, but I came out of it feeling bad for him and angry at the people who made that garbage. The victims’ claims didn’t even make sense, except the ones that even they admitted weren’t illegal actions.

[@sherrisanders7478]

​@harryevans1111 wow, you are completely igornant.

[@harryevans1111]

@@sherrisanders7478 again, no logic, no evidence, just an insult based on assumptions. I don’t find your communication respectful or intelligent, so regardless of your next rude reply, I won’t be responding.

[@harryevans1111]

@@sherrisanders7478 I guess I lied, I’m responding once more because now that I watched the video, Spidey actually went out of his way to dissect the way you’re arguing and show that it’s wrong. He specifically talks about the killer conspiracies being ridiculous. As Spidey said, you’re arguing from a conclusion.

[@Jenniforest]

He's saying they are wrong, he's defending himself. Kind of like 'shut up, listen, THIS is what happened" 1:44

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

He's not. People who are innocent don't proclaim I'm not guilty. While it's true and not lying because the courts found him not guilty it's not the same as being an innocent party. I'm also pretty sure every person who's had to struggle with a rather trumatic life paused at the idea that he'd bring up his accusers and mention their struggles in order to dismiss them. That's something abusive people do is dismiss and deflect because of you can't believe them because they are always in trouble aka they are the problem not me.

[@Jenniforest]

I'm. Only guessing what the non-verbal communication is with the sound on mute. Spidey asked us to try to read the body language.

[@godrickbest4798]

i honestly before seeing that interview didnt realize he was not guilty twice, etc, and its a shame hes been so villianized, loved him back in the day, hope he can come back, hes definitly suffered enough for whatever he did or didnt do in my personal opinion

[@harryevans1111]

Watch the spidey micro expression when he says that you will see a lot of “social media commenters” around 9:35 hahahahaha. Contempt anyone? 😂😂😂

[@TheBehavioralArts]

😂 woops

[@srarisa3362]

¡qué bueno! good catch 😄

[@jackallen9045]

I was hoping you would cover this interview. Looking forward to seeing your take. Thanks!

[@emmam.6280]

I had not heard of this case, so I am glad to hear about it here. I'm not sure how this actor affects me, but his ability to communicate works to his advantage. I also absolutely understand that he doesn't want to comment on other people, like the king or a fellow actress.

[@jenniferphelps2549]

Well done, Sir! Great video❤

[@stefany7942]

Love your work. I was waiting for your video since I watched the interview. 😊

[@cyn8396]

Eyebrows raised, two hands almost join together, leans forward. Answer to the "video game question" :D That was so cool btw !!! 💜

[@kkurt2k]

I love listening to you spit your knowledge, it’s very interesting as always, great stuff Spidey

[@AlisaZabrotskaia]

I watch this channel so much that I knew the moment Spacey says something important will have to do with eyebrows before I even saw the footage

[@fraukopfsalat4745]

Great analysis! You are so considerate and observative. Love that.

[@carolineben-ari2798]

My first thought before you said it was that he didn't say her name because he didn't know how to pronounce Ghislaine.

[@Gabrielle4870]

Unlikely. She's well known and he spent time with her.

[@Muskrat_squeezer]

@@Gabrielle4870yup. He knows her name well. Easy to spot that bullshit.

[@jaymijess2616]

I also would like to mention to folks (which you have many times in other videos) that over specificity can also be something someone does when they are afraid that they are not going to be believed. Which is very much the case with him. I love learning this stuff 🥰

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Absolutely correct! Very common for people who are defending themselves against a mob. Great note 😊

[@Caketime2]

I had a very different perspective of the faulty memory clip. manipulators often use that as a way to get around things. You're just not remembering that right but I do we all know that in our system not guilty is not always the same as innocent. And it kind of felt like he was saying someday he's just going to have to accept this and when he does it will help me. Also the fact that he didn't call him out and say that he was lying does make me even more uneasy about it.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

There’s a massive difference though. They proved that his story couldn’t have happened because he described rooms and hallways that didn’t exist and a party that never happened. They literally proved his story couldn’t have happened, with a witness. Completely different situation here

[@Caketime2]

@TheBehavioralArts I have no idea the case, was just saying how I could see that behavior being different. I also didn't like that he said something along the lines that can be irrefutable proven with evidence meaning the guy could not prove his side with evidence that could hold up in court. Not saying it didn't happen. Obviously I could be way off lol it was just the feeling I got

[@Caketime2]

@TheBehavioralArts I've noticed he's very good with legal talk! Which everyone knows they know how to say a lie sounding like it's truth lol

[@venturecrew06]

As I was watching the interview I just kept thinking "I can't wait for some Spidey analysis"

[@lanaladenhauser]

Look at us, the eyebrow specialists! 😂

[@Gabrielle4870]

That Channel 4 "documentary" reminds me of the bullshit hitpiece they aired about Michael Jackson. Same scenario, same vibe, also getting actors to act the victim, making allegations that can't be proven and would be hard to deny in this me too era. At least Kevin is alive to defend himself.

[@VanceWarren83]

With the “Maxwell woman” I would honestly do the same. Even now, after you explained the two pronunciations….. if I were ever to refer to her, it would be that “Maxwell woman” lol. Kevin seems articulate, for him to “dismiss” her first name, you have to question why. And when I watched it, I thought he was distancing himself from her. But I had no idea who she is or what her name was. After learning that from you, yeah, Maxwell woman it is lol.

[@carlyd.9662]

Game time! I watched without sound and I think the moment he was focusing the most was with the eyebrows up and body moved closer to the interviewer.

[@christhornycroft3686]

The first thing I noticed was that he says "I'm not guilty of what I was accused of." Not only is "not guilty" a legal term rather than saying whether or not he did it (guilt or innocence in court is sometimes quite different than actually committing wrongdoing) he says "of what I was accused of." He doesn't go into any specifics. He doesn't say what he was accused of. It sounds like distancing. If he didn't do anything wrong, I would expect him, not necessarily in explicit terms, but be somewhat specific about what he was accused of and why it didn't happen. Or maybe his lawyers have told him what to say. But if he didn't do anything wrong, there shouldn't be a problem being somewhat frank about it, right?

[@LindaC616]

They do go into detail if you watch the full interview. During that interview, he still defends "groping", as Piers calls it, versus "making a pass at someone." And he continues to insist on that distinction throughout the interview

[@NinStardust]

This whole interview is full of distancing techniques.

[@christhornycroft3686]

@@LindaC616 Thank you for clearing that up.

[@christhornycroft3686]

@@NinStardust It seems like it. I can't tell 100% though. I'm not just going to throw him under the bus because he's a Hollywood guy. Yes, he has an accuser who was VERY underage when he made a pass at him, which is pretty horrible (I don't care about the gender dynamic), but until I see hard evidence that he physically assaulted someone, those things are certainly bad, but I'm not ready to call him a total piece of garbage. He's gay, and is into guys. Fine. As long as he's not forcing himself on kids, I don't care. If he made a pass at a kid, I'm not throwing him in prison and throwing away the key, but I've got my eye on him. I'm not 100% sure on the specifics of the situation with the 15 year old. If he actually touched the kid, that's a big no-no and chuck him in jail with the rest of the turds. That's unacceptable. Usually in these cases, you don't need to see ID to know someone is underage. If I saw some girls at a party, I could probably guess within a few years what their ages were and at the very least, whether they were adults or not. Or at least, I'd probably know whether or not to be suspicious. It's weird. I hate that R. Kelly sold a bunch of records via download the day he went to prison and Michael Jackson was never found guilty (though I go either way on that) and his career was basically over as a recording artist after the first trial. So I guess society has decided if you assault an underage girl, that's "understandable," but the fact that someone's going after a boy and they're the same gender, that's suddenly a problem. I knew plenty of girls in grade 9 who would have loved to have been chatted up by their PE teacher. I heard them gushing about him. It still doesn't make it right or legal.

[@OneMillionSpenders]

You are a really classy guy Spidey. I enjoy your content very much.

[@brittanyparistx]

I know he’s an incredible actor but I believe him when I listen to this. I hope it’s true because it feels genuine to me.

[@polskigirl8547]

Sincerity is no guarantee for truth….

[@Nathan47223]

@@polskigirl8547 And allegation is no guarantee for truth

[@ericamichelle3992]

You gave a really thoughtful and informed assessment, and I can't say that I disagree with what you've said. Makes a lot of sense. Another great video.

[@FindAngelMom]

Look like when his eyebrows went up and leaned forward and hand gestures

[@saradelgado2247]

When his eyebrows when up 😊

[@thelmaedwards5293]

I believe he made passes at people and displayed inappropriate behavior but I don't believe it rose to the level of criminal. He did not rape anybody.

[@dudeorduuude5211]

Yes, agreed.

[@firenze5555]

Wow - you're okay with groping and passes made at a 14 year old boy? That's illegal and assault. I believe Anthony Rapp.

[@Nathan47223]

@@firenze5555 If he doesnt think it happened, then there is nothing to be okay with or not be okay with. Not believing a certain event happened has no relation to whether or not one agrees with what took place in that event they don't think happened. I don't believe in Santa Claus, so i don't agree nor disagree that he likes cookies and milk, because i disagree with the premise as a whole.

[@DawnDavidson]

@@firenze5555 I certainly believe that Anthony Rapp believes that it happened. But the evidence showed that it could not have happened the way Rapp said it did. That’s why Spacey was found Not Guilty. He’s not saying it’s ok to do that. He’s saying it didn’t happen (not that way or that time) and he has receipts to prove it.

[@firenze5555]

@@Nathan47223 It doesn't matter what he thinks - there have been soooooo many who have come forward with stories of assault by Kevin Spacey. Harvey Weinstein didn't think it happened, either.

[@ShaneJao]

I like your breakdowns Spidey, keep up the interesting, entertaining & educational content !!!🤙🏽

[@ron95754]

A Very Good characterization, thank you . I agree totally with your assessment.

[@lesliemcgeaghhypnosis1441]

I've said it before and I'll say it again...your analysis is always spot on and completely unbiased. I love how you are able to analyze the facts and never allow personal judgment to cloud you. I truly feel Kevin Spacey has been vilified far more than he deserves to be. Is he squeaky clean? No, but who among us is. My feeling has always been that he is innocent of the accusations against him and a lot of people are jumping on the bandwagon. Another great video Spidey!

[@sandralynnsparks3468]

I look back at accusations of Placido Domingo, and see parallels with Spacey. I remember Domingo from the seventies. From close up. That he was a womanizer? Yes. Well known. And very good at it. One time I passed him in a backstage hall, and moved towards the wall, teasing something like "I've heard about you, stay on your side!" and he laughed, no rancor, just teased. When a singer accused him and claimed she had no idea what he was like - I know even ushers at tour sites like Atlanta knew about his reputation. It was open. He both pursued and and was pursued. He didn't have to force anyone. I hate his career was destroyed. Spacey had more stories told about him that I heard among actor friends. But I also knew how jealous actors could be about actors like Spacey, Cruise, and others. Spacey has never been a saint, neither was Domingo. I don't know what really happened in either life, except I did meet Domingo along the way. But when Spacey talked of this making him rethink his life, I know what that's like. Just as I remember what it was like to be around very famous people. The pursuit was always there, between the stars and the fans. Sometimes the dark side of it would reach criminal behavior, most times, not. Thank you for doing this video.

[@melzyobrien4925]

In general conversation, I would stumble through her first name and then say something like "the maxwell woman" even though I've heard her name enough times to almost get it right. But if I was being interviewed and had some hesitancy on my pronunciation being correct (perfect even), and if I felt I was being scrutinised in any way already - I'd find another way to address her. He's probably got some perfectionism or control issues, and pronunciation will be affected by that. After all, an entire interview can be disregarded in favour of a 5 second snippet containing such a divided topic. I think he's a very strategic person, though, so he probably planned to say it that way.

[@spnfam-ily]

When I can only listen and not watch, I feel left out of the class lol

[@toyyatoy]

Just strengthen and fine tune your audible ability. Cut one sense improve another. May even discover new methods of telling body language based on sound!

[@DawnDavidson]

Yeah, I will often listen only to KZbin videos, and do other things at the same time. Never with Spidey! 😂 I have to save his videos for times when I can pay FULL attention to both sound and video. I feel your pain!

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

I have a lot of trauma and abouse in my childhood and as a result i pick up on certain things that other people might not pick up on. People who've been victimized usually have a very traumatic lives and that becomes reflected in their health and stuff. People like that are seen as easy targets are more likely to die prematurely. Im finding it very gross that hes bringing up their struggles to dissmiss their accusations as if being an easy target to abuse can be dismissed. This is scary to me.

[@peixa79]

Shows his predator mentality. He's very scary because he's such a great manipulator.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

@@peixa79 yes predator is the right word for it. Still don't think he's responsible for anyone dying though, just that only somebody abusive would use the fact that they've struggled in life Ike they are the problem for attracting abusers is really scary

[@Nathan47223]

Bringing up their struggles can have relevance because it suggests underlying issues, though i find the idea of them being prone to dying prematurely a bit dramatic, but issues nonetheless. It certainly can be used against someone to undermine their credibility as a witness, but the fact that there is some truth to it like you also mentioned by suggesting they die prematurely, which presupposes a handful of issues if that was the case.

[@SilvesterBlack-j8x]

Hands clenched, body posturing forward, eyebrows animating.

[@SilvesterBlack-j8x]

The "I'm not guilty" statement

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

I'm having a hard time not thinking he's been trained to be convincing to body language experts.

[@oliviaangelica3099]

I am so happy i stumbled on your avcount years ago! Ive been watching everyhting and learned so much. Thank you❤

[@jamesmitchell4927]

About the message from King Charles... Kevin doesn't want to discuss this as he would probably know Morgan could run with that in one of his other media outlets trying to damage the Kings reputation by turning on Kevin (which from past experience he has done with other people he has interviewed)

[@thelightwielder]

I think he's likely guilty of being a creep, how much worse it is than that is harder to say

[@kathiekinsler]

Thank you for your analysis on all the videos you do. You always try to remain neutral, and your explanations are clear and informative. I really enjoy your videos and appreciate the work you put in. ❤

[@TheBehavioralArts]

Thanks so much for the encouragement and kind words, so glad you enjoyed it🤗 ❤️

[@aimeeplocar6949]

Ghislaine Who??!! I'm most impressed with your proper pronunciation of Quebec! Thank you! My father was born in Canada in a place that few people can pronounce and I have extended family in Saint Jean Sur Richelieu. Down here in the South, I can sound crazy to other Americans saying it's "K-bec" not "Kwah-bec" 😅 Thanks for having my back, Spidey 😂

[@aimeeplocar6949]

Excellent analysis as always

[@death057]

I completely agree with the first name of the Maxwell woman! I constantly call her that I do not know how to pronounce or want to figure out how to pronounce her first name so I completely agree with the way he says that Maxwell woman sometimes I call her the madam. I don't think it's psychological distancing I think it's trying to figure out how the hell do you say guillotine Maxwell or some crap

[@DawnDavidson]

“Guillotine Maxwell” 🤣

[@tarynperry2133]

I think he is truly reflective and being an adult about the situation. He is not making excuses, he's stating facts, and he's not dragging others into his issues to make himself look better. Has he done some arrogant, egotistic, and questionable things? Sure. I just do not believe people should be canceled for every little thing. We are also so litigious in this society, and a ton of people illegally try to use the system to get rich quick. As you said, nothing he has done is illegal or against civil law due to him being exonerated each time.

[@Ladybug211211]

Learning you live in Quebec explains what I hear in your English that is not first language. Thank you for the information. Also for the review of this interview.

[@TheBehavioralArts]

English is my first language 😊. I speak fluent French but was raised in English, highschool was French but nothing before that.

[@Ladybug211211]

@@TheBehavioralArts I do hear something in your speech, however. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@TheBehavioralArts]

@@Ladybug211211 Hunh. It’s probably the local accent. Like even if English is my first language the dialect in English speakers in Quebec might still be different 🤷‍♂️ 🤗

[@DawnDavidson]

@@TheBehavioralArtsprobably. It’s super noticeable when you speak French, which you do extremely well to my non-French-Speaking ear (though I have SUNG in French, so there’s that.) I did most of my growing up in Rochester, NY. My grandparents (both sets) lived in Michigan. I once had a voice teacher who asked me if *I* was from Michigan. 😂 So, obviously there are those among us that can pick up on those subtle audio accent cues the way you pick up on subtle body language cues. I’m not THAT good, but there is something in the way you speak that, were I asked to ID where you were from, blindfolded (and before I “knew” you), I’d have probably guessed northeastern US. Not sure I’d have caught Canada, though I did spend one summer at a horse camp near Québec, so maybe. (My dad flew us there in a small plane, and didn’t speak French, so there were some extremely tense moments while we were landing and taking off! 😂) I certainly wouldn’t have guessed any other English speaking country besides US and Canada, nor would I have guessed the US Southern states, Midwest, or Northern seaboard states. Knowing your showbiz background, I might have guessed California, though, or even Las Vegas, since both tend to be melting pot accents. But you’ve got the “Great Northern Vowel Shift” and the slightly “flattened” vowels of the sorts of people I grew up around, so I probably would have guessed somewhere around upstate NY, Ohio, or Lake Ontario-ish. 😊 I suppose we’ll never know, now, though! 🤣

[@redelfshotthefood8213]

When my friend's Mom had cancer we found out after she had turned into an awful person. Nasty is the nicest wotd for it. Then she had her tumour removed and she changed back to her usual self. The accusation could have come from cancer affecting the mind. The world is sometimes stranger than you'd think.