What is Messianic Judaism?

Messianic Judaism is a bit of an unknown to many people. Are they Jews or Christians? What is their worship like? How do they fit into religious discussion? Let's answer those questions.

[@graemesilb]

I'm Jewish and feel like this is a very fair representation of Messianic Judaism. I'm not Messianic myself, but I do generally consider people who are born Jewish who become Messianic Jews to still be Jews, though I realize I am an in the minority. I probably wouldn't consider Gentiles who convert to Messianic Judaism to be Jews, and I am on the fence about Gentiles who convert to non-Messianic Judaism then become Messianic Jews later. A lot of the nuance here for me has to do with the fact that Judaism is not just a religion but also an ethnicity, so conversion can be a bit wonky. Also, I really enjoy this channel in general despite not being a Christian, keep up the good work.

[@moonlitdesert]

My mum's family (Jews) have been in England since the Jews were allowed back by Oliver Cromwell. Dad's family came from little villages in Russia and Poland in the mid 18OO's. I went to an ultra orthodox Jewish school, spoke Classical Hebrew, studied Rashi. However, I'm as old as dirt and can never remember having any religious belief at all. To most secular Jews, it's an ethnicity - on British Censuses it will require your "ethnicity" - which I happily give as Jewish. People can believe or disbelieve what they want, have opinions as they want. I don't think Jews who were atheists stopped Hitler from slaughtering them, or being mentioned as being "Jewish" by any media. But then I'm an old cynic - and as long as they're happy, the Messianic Jews can call themselves what they want. But they're not Jews. Then I don't go around thinking about religion all day. Bye now, be well, safe and happy. xx

[@rachelorlando6296]

While it is true that "being Jewish" has an important ethnic and cultural aspect, the heart of Judaism is belief in the Jewish G-d. Lacking that is lacking in being Jewish, regardless of how you consider yourself. Being Jewish is a matter of Jewish law, not personal conviction or convenience. It is very different from Christianity, where someone can be Christian just be saying they believe or considering themselves to be one. I know this sounds snobbish, but Jews have a long history of backsliding into other religions (the whole story of Chanukah), so it's a sore point for others to claim one can be Jewish and practice non-Jewish religion.

[@jacobburton7613]

I was always under the impression that one's family isn't considered Jewish until 3 generations have been taught Torah and raised within the community. is this wrong, or just a very orthodox view?

[@AleaRandomAm]

​@@moonlitdesert By the same standard Ashkenazis aren't Jews since they descend from Eastern European converts.

[@axaeyexus]

​@@AleaRandomAm they're still Jews. Being if mixed background doesn't erase their west Asian origination.

[@Marbo12f]

An excellent neutral take Messianic Judaism. Finding themselves disliked on both sides, its difficult to find an unbiased source of information.

[@faturechi]

This was not a neutral take. Even the Jews he cited were cited from Christian sources. A neutral take would have included Jewish views as well. The questions in the comments show exactly what a poor job he did.

[@sorenpx]

@faturechi I would think that you would want Messianic Jews to speak for themselves rather than outsiders speaking for them. What do you expect non-Christian Jews to say about them that will better inform you about what Messianic Jews believe?

[@faturechi]

@@sorenpx The truth. Do you do an "unbiased" report on Scientology by only quoting them? Any other deceptive cult?

[@sorenpx]

@@faturechi Maybe you don't understand what this channel is. Have you watched any of the videos before? It's a self-described denominational video encyclopedia. It's a just-the-facts presentation on what the individual denominations believe and other such facts about the denominations. If you want to know what a Methodist believes, do you ask a Muslim?

[@sola.gratia]

@@faturechi Shalom brother, I may be half a year late but I just wanted to clarify that Ready to Harvest is a protestant and isn't arguing against Messianic Jews, we actually love our Messianic Jewish brothers. He was just showing both the sides. On one are the jews that claim that Messianic Jews are not true jews and on the other are the Messianic Jews that do see themselves as jews that profess belief in Messiah. Ready to Harvest was only citing both the sides by quoting them, he wasn't being biased or side taking here, simply reading what the rabbinic jews were saying and what Messianic Jews said of themselves. Shalom :)

[@Doigt101]

As always, I am so impressed by the thoroughness with which these topics are covered and the matter-of-fact, non-judgmental delivery of our RTH host.

[@Salisbury2015]

I deeply appreciate how hard this channel works to provide an unbiased perspective of different denominations and beliefs within Christianity. Allowing them to speak in their own voice sets this channel apart from others that seem to be more intent on proving why other (often minority) viewpoints are wrong. Thank you for an informative video! I learned a lot.

[@fallinginthed33p]

I respect the way he looks at other Abrahamic religions like Islam and Judaism and considers all their differences and similarities. Peace comes from accepting differences.

[@DanialADisciple]

Are you gonna have peace when you send people to hell for not telling them the truth? John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.@@fallinginthed33p

[@DanialADisciple]

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

[@Vissaius]

My dad was into Messianic Judaism and I was into it when I was younger but gradually fell away from it and religion altogether. My mom is a Protestant Christian so my dad and my mom had a lot of theological disagreements. I went to various Messianic Congregations as a kid and even a Messianic Jewish cult. I also went to a Messianic Southern Baptist church for a while. Like ready to Harvest Said the movement is still forming it's own identity. Numbers are hard to keep track of and everything but it's somewhere around 200,000 to 400,000 but again it's hard to know. From my experience with going to different Messianic Jewish groups I can tell you there are general trends but they do vary quite a bit for such a small movement. Some of them are very adamant about following Jewish Laws. For example the hardcore Messianic Jews believe that men must have beards and that people should never eat unclean food and must keep the Sabbath. The more hardcore Messianics usually emphasize practicing the Jewish Holy Days as apposed to Christian Holidays which are seen as Pagan. They argue that Christmas and Easter are based on Pagan traditions and to avoid them and instead practice Jewish Holy Days such as Hanukkah and Passover. Messianic Jews are heavily influenced by Evangelicals Christianity (Critics say they are simply Evangelicals "larping" as Jews." Like Evangelicals most Messianic Jews tend to be politically and culturally very very very. They are almost universally against abortion, gay marriage, support gun rights, and other conservative positions. From what I have seen though there are more moderate members of the movement. The Messianic Southern Baptist church I went to celebrated BOTH Christmas and Hanukkah. Some Messianic Jews appropriate more Jewish customs than others. Most Messianic Jews I've known generally don't go for rabbinic Judaism. They tend to follow strictly what the Bible says as much as possible. They take sola scriptura more extreme than a lot of Protestants do even. Messianic Jews universally support the State of Israel. They are more hardcore in their support of Israel than mainstream Jews are actually. Many of them even support Greater Israel where they believe Israel shall eventually take more land and build an even greater nation. Messianic Jews tend to get a lot of hate from both Jews and Christians and others. Jews say they are Christian and Christians say they are Jews. I'd definitely say they are more in line with Evangelicals Protestant Christianity than mainstream Judaism but they are too different to be considered Christian either. They are sort of in a weird area like Latter Day Saints (Mormons) and Jehovah's' Witnesses where they do share commonalities with mainstream Christianity but Mainstream Christians seem to have mixed views of them. Messianic Jews views on Christians can vary. From what I saw they get along with Evangelicals Christians best. They generally think Evangelicals Christians are pretty good and some Messianic Jews like my dad even went to an Evangelicals Church. I'd say the closest Christian Denomination to them would probably be either Southern Baptist or Pentecostal. They tend to be more more ambivalent towards the more liberal protestants such as Methodists and Lutherans. Most Messianic are NOT fond of the Catholic Church and many consider the Catholic Church to be at best a heavily distorted Church and at worst a bunch of covert Satanists. Hardcore Messianic would almost prefer someone to be an outright Pagan than Catholic because in their eyes at least an outright Pagan is honest about it. This is mostly what I witnessed in the Messianic Congregations I went to as a kid. In my honest opinion they are generally pretty extreme in their views. Even a lot of hardcore Evangelicals Christians think Messianic Jews take it too far and I am inclined to agree. I was in a Messianic Cult for several years with my dad and it was really extreme. I was part of this group called "Cradle of Hope Ministries ran by a self proclaimed Prophet named Tom Deckerd. His cult combined stuff from Messianic Judaism as well as JWs, Holiness Pentecostalism, and other fundamentalist denominations. He always spoke of economic collapse and upcoming nuclear was and such. I left the cult at 13 and my dad left a few years later. After that my dad still believed in Messianic teachings but he toned down on things more over the years and later on went to a mainstream Evangelicals Church with my mom and even got Baptized there. Even after saying all this it's still hard to explain the movement. It's a very interesting movement that takes different beliefs from different Christian groups as well as stuff from Judaism. Degrees of orthodoxy vary widely amongst members. There are general trends in the movement but things vary from congregation to congregation and even on an individual basis. Some see Jewish laws as absolute rules that must be followed and some more as general guidelines. Many of it's members are conservative if not ultra conservative but there are some more moderate members that have views closer to mainstream Christianity. Honestly I've never met a single liberal or left leaning Messianic Jew. I'm curious to see how things develop in the movement as time goes on. I'm no longer part of the movement but I learned a lot about Christianity and Judaism from being in it. What I have to say is not vindictive of all in the movement and like I said the views vary widely in the movement. If you're interested in anything else about Messianic Judaism feel free to ask.

[@susangopher]

@Vissaius: thank you for taking the time to give your perspective. I had friends that chose to do house worship of the festivals and Passover which was an enriching experience because I wanted to understand Jewish practices of worship as well as the culture. But then my friends chose to leave their Christian fellowships in search of others with similar beliefs. Looking from the outside, I was concerned that they were finding cult-like groups and then eschewing any other christian fellowships. While I agree with Paul that you shouldn't place yourself back under the (Torah) Law, I absolutely cannot agree with the Liberal theologies of mainline protestant- that there are no rules at all and that today every human has been granted salvation because of Jesus's crucifixion. There seems to be no repentance anymore in the modern-day mainlines. The Gospels have been picked over so thoroughly that there is no original or other sin. But then I Rant! Sorry...

[@Bv3276]

I am a Messianic Jew but do not agree with the totality of your comment. However, I know that’s your experience growing up. So I’ll refrain from saying anything further. I’m very sorry that your Dad introduced you to a cult. It seems like your Dad was very divided in his walk with God, hence the falling away and it spilled out into your experience.

[@Vissaius]

@@Bv3276 I understand if you don't agree. Like I said several times in my comments the Messianic Jews are a very broad movement with no central governing figure (e.g. The Pope) so it's a bit hard to define the movement. I'm still friends with some Messianic Jews who are great people.

[@broz1488]

Thank you for your comment, I found it very interesting and informative. Not sure if you have heard of the Ebonites, they were a Messianic group that lasted from the 1st century until they disappeared in the 5th century. Their name is probably the Hebrew for rock - evan, upon this rock/evan I will build My Church. So should probably be pronounced Evanites or Evonites. Anyway, they taught that Jesus believers with Jewish roots had to keep the law of Moses, as Jesus had not freed Jews and their descendants from their obligation to obey Torah laws. They are the judaisers that Paul talks about. When the Visigoths sacked Rome, they demand gold, silver and slave tribute, the slave tribute was that one in twenty Roman citizens had to return with the Visigoths to southern Germany as slaves. The Romans rounded up all Jews including the Ebonites, non Roman citizens and undesirables to form the slave tribute, resulting in the extinction of the Ebonite community. This is how Jews ended up in southern Germany and why Yiddish is a fifth century Gothic Germanic tongue mixed with Hebrew.

[@broz1488]

@rejipaul2185 very well said, I agree with what you wrote. People are too busy splitting hairs over what we call each other, instead of recognizing the true Saint as one who walks with God in obedience to the will of God. Too many false saints hide behind an identity, claiming to be true Saints because of the identity they hold to, and not because of their walk in obedience to Scripture.

[@robforney9252]

I really appreciate your approach with all of your videos. Using source material from whatever community you're talking about without unnecessary commentary. Great job, and thanks for what you do!

[@aaud5841]

Awesome. Well-developed presentation. Praise God. Thank you for doing this, Joshua. May God guide you.

[@stephenbailey9969]

To evangelize the Jewish community in the first century AD, many of the early Christians carried on their Jewish traditions understanding that they were not essential for salvation, but were part of participating with the Jewish community. The first church council at Jerusalem under James and Peter and the other elders concluded that the Gentiles did not have to live under the Mosaic Law, even though Jewish members of the church continued some of those traditions. They spoke against those 'Judaizers' who insisted that the Gentiles had to be fully integrated into Judaic practice. It is no different than missionaries today who adopt some of the practices of the local community--such as women wearing some form of covering or accepting food restrictions--in order to be accepted and evangelize that community.

[@alenpaul2523]

Gentiles were never under mosaic law anyway and new convenient is with house of Israel and house of Judah not with gentiles.

[@tintinismybelgian]

Peter and John went to pray (at the temple). They met a lame man on the way.

[@stephenbailey9969]

@@alenpaul2523 I think the apostle Paul would say that there is 'no longer Jew nor Greek, male nor female, slave nor free', but all believers are one under the covenantal blood of Christ, by the new birth of the Spirit. (Galatians 3:28; John 1:11-13)

[@MAMoreno]

@@stephenbailey9969 But Paul said that in a very specific context: Jewish Christians trying to force Gentile Christians to undergo circumcision and snubbing them if they wouldn't.

[@stephenbailey9969]

@@MAMoreno That was the context. The principle is eternal: all believers are one in Christ (Colossians 3:9-11). All believers are citizens of the Jerusalem above. "She is our mother." (Galatians 4: 21-31; This he said to the Galatian congregation consisting of those who were Gentiles in the flesh.) And one day that heavenly Jerusalem will descend and fill a new heavens and a new earth (Revelation 21:1-4).

[@musicalintentions]

Thank you for this thorough and thought-provoking video.

[@ericaholmes3917]

I never understood why my people don't consider Messianic Jews Jewish. I mean, what can be more Jewish than worshipping one?

[@trafledrakel7118]

Because they are not ethnically jews, or religiously jews. They are christians with borrowed jewish aesthetics and hebrew terms.

[@ericaholmes3917]

@@trafledrakel7118 I'm sorry to say, but that is almost completely inaccurate. Many Messianics come from Jewish families, have the heritage, and still follow all of the Jewish holidays and traditions. They stand out and differ from the average Christian completely. Mostly, they aren't people taking some Hebrew philosophies and calling themselves Jews. There might be some out there, but that's the thing: we both can't say that ALL people do something. It's like saying all Christians cherry pick and are judgmental. That's just not true for everyone.

[@trafledrakel7118]

@@ericaholmes3917 there are messianic jews with jewish heritage just like there are christians, atheist and buddhist people with jewish heritage, but this doesn’t make their group a jewish group. I see how you may say it’s different because of the jew/non-jew ratio within messianic jews being bigger than in christians and buddhists, but messianic judaism is messianic judaism, and not judaism. If they call themselves messianic jews, they are telling the truth, but if they tell people they are jews, they end up misrepresenting the jews and confusing people, making them believe this is what a jew is, so they should only call themselves messianic jews.

[@kianth2451]

Well, from a purely traditional Jewish perspective that would actually be pretty not Judaic. Since that is viewed as a form of idolatry. I don't pass judgement on either though, I get kind of suspicious about the Messianic congregations that have engaged in disinformation to trick people into coming to their places of worship but I don't think that represents a majority.

[@batissta44]

​@Kianth how is worshipping God idolatry?

[@bloodyroses97]

As a born Christian I have been interested in potentially converting to Judaism, however I just could not see Jesus not being the messiah. Messianic Judaism sounds like the perfect middle ground. Definitely going to be doing some more reading up on it!

[@grantmurphy7965]

May I ask what you mean by a "born Christian?"

[@simonskinner1450]

@@grantmurphy7965 I have gripe on the topic of being so--called Christian, which seems to me as a catch-all term which people rarely examine. It seems to me you are examining that too. It is a benefit to all even Atheists that the terms and doctrines are correct. So I have made a Ytube video series 'Myths in so-called Christianity' to examine the cult ridden religion that I was born into as C of E.

[@rachelorlando6296]

There is no "middle ground". You either commit to being Jewish or remain a Christian. It's OK to just be a Christian, you don't have to pretend to be Jewish as well.

[@simonskinner1450]

@@rachelorlando6296 Well here's a shout for the middle ground, the true religion of Abraham and the Jews, who can only go to heaven in the church of Christ. If you are a true believer you are called a Jew, to go to heaven you need the Holy Spirit, and therefore must be Born Again of the Spirit. Hence a Born Again Jew. If you say you must commit to being Jewish, then that's not be in the law of Moses, it must be in the law of Abraham. And it not ok to be 'Christian' as that is a collective of cults, and those in the Mosaic Law took the curse over the blessing, but Paul pointed to the true religion of Abraham that he was a lost sheep from. If you watch my Ytube video series called 'Myths in so-called Christianity', you will find the truth, and it is complicated as it is all Jewish Hermeneutics.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

@@grantmurphy7965 read John 3:3 Unless ye are born again, ye shall not see the Kingdom of God. so unless you become a bac, you wont go to Heaven. so unless you pray to receive Jesus as your Saviour, and obey the New Testament as much as possible, u will not go to Heaven. thats what that is.

[@profilecanada2320]

Very thorough. Might I add that according to Acts 11:26, Antioch was where the followers were first called Christians. There were many Jewish believers in Antioch.

[@alexcitron5159]

Really good overview! I've been in MJ for 32 years, a Christian (believer) 5 before that. I have the distinction that for all but 5 of those years I've also been in church, mostly as a paid musician, and now just because it feels right. The only thing -- most of us put the accent on the 2nd syllable: y'SHUA-a. I look forward to watching more!

[@ri3m4nn]

In short, they are the dominant Christians before Acts 15.

[@VJacquette]

This appears to all be from insider sources. The classic outsider source on this topic from a scholarly point of view was by historian Dr. David A. Rausch -- rather dated now, but extremely important.

[@Moe-bb3bm]

Even in Ancient Juduism there were Rightous gentiles that didn't follow the law. I believe Messianic are entitled to hold to their culture as gentile groups do but follow the New Testament.

[@onelove6576]

I call myself christian for simplicity but when I explain my belief I say that Im a follower of Jesus Christ and I believ in the bible And Im not religious. I believ in the truth... Parden my bad english God bless you all and much love from Sweden 🇸🇪💟✝️💟

[@HerbertPrince]

Although we don't claim to be Christian, simply because we still follow the teachings of Moses, of which Yeshua (Jesus) taught from when He was on earth, as well as the Disciples, the Apostles, and Paul, we don't claim to be 'Christian' because we don't observe the secular holidays such as valentine's day, easter, May day, halloween, or christmas, as all came from paganism, as well as we keep the Sabbath. We are Messianic believers and we of Yahweh and Yeshua, (The Father and The Son, both of which are God, along with The Ruach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit), Who also is God. We don't believe in the 'Trinity', as this is a Catholic doctrine, which says God is three persons, separate but equal. The Shema in Deuteronomy 6:4 states, 'Shema Israel, Adonai is our Elohim, Adonai Echad', translated: 'Hear O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One', which is a 'Unified One' (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). God never does say He is separate but rather He is One. Messianic believers observe the Torah, the first five Books of the Bible, which are God's Instructions in Righteousness. The Law in which Yeshua (Jesus) God, gave to Moses on Mount Sinai, we still follow as best that we can, as now there isn't a temple in Jerusalem. And besides, if His. Law isn't kept, it means we are Lawless, as scripture has much to say about this. We can't keep all of the Law, as some are for men, some are for women, some are for the priests, and some are for only the high priest. We only observe the Written Law, but not the oral law of which the religious Jews observed and still observe today, as there are 1,583 of them, if I'm not mistaken, instead of the 613 of which is the Written Law. We also eat Kosher, just as the early church did when Yeshua walked the earth. We are made up of Jews and non-Jews, but we all from the seed of Abraham, meaning we all are part of the Commonwealth of Israel, and we are all Hebrews. We observe the 7 major Biblical Feasts of the Lord, and some of us observe the minor Feasts as well. On KZbin, Search for: Lion and Lamb Ministries based in Norman Oklahoma, with Monte Judah, as he has been teaching the Torah now for 40 years. We would love for you to tune in to watch. Shalom.

[@shanechyba9976]

I hate to break it to you, but you can. Jesus was a Jew all of his followers were Jews from the early church, so yes, you can be a Jew and follow Christ.

[@bigdogboos1]

there is no Jew nor Greek anymore. You are either a Christian or not. Do not split the body of Christ into different camps, Paul condemned this over and over again on this very topic

[@johnpratts2856]

Christian is Greek for Messianic. I don't see the issue. Jews know the Bible (both old and new testament) more than any Gentile ever will. All are welcome in the Messianic path.

[@Lepua2009]

I have never been this confused in my life.

[@danshakuimo]

Basically everything on this channel

[@TheFranchiseCA]

@@danshakuimo I usually understand people much better afterwards. Usually.

[@beowulf.reborn]

Jerome mentions "Messianic Jews" called Nazarenes (the same Nazarenes mentioned in the Book of Acts), that were still in existence as late as the year 400 AD; and I believe that many of them still attended Synagogues despite the Jewish people at the time cursing them as heretics. Showing that the division was both extreme at that time, and yet not complete.

[@Nazarene_Judaism]

This is our congregation. Nazarene jews. We are still here.

[@georgeramos3437]

Shalom! Would you please do an in-depth video on the Hebrew Pentecostal Federation? Their churches are called “House of God.,” or “Hebrew Pentecostal House of God.” They are Hebrew Christians. Similar to messianic Jews, both testaments are of equal value, keep a strict kosher diet as outlined in the Torah, & you can find many of them wearing kippahs (or yarmulkes), the mandated holy feasts (or holy days [Yom Kippur, Rosh ha Shanna, Chanukkah, etc.]), & maintain a Presbyterian governmental polity. Their most notable member was singer, Marvin Gaye who grew up in their ministry before growing up, & turning to secular music. Shalom!

[@kingofthemultiverse4148]

Shalom! I'm a Gentile Christian and I'm so so thankful to God for this movement, i believe that it is the bridge between Jew and Gentile, God bless my Jewish brothers and sisters in Christ.

[@justinpetrash1005]

I am a follower of this. The common phrase is “Messy-Antics” a play on Messianics. I have been in congregations that are very Jewish, congregations that are heavily Christian, and we left in a frenzy of one that was getting extremely cult like (calling the “rabbi” a Moses-like figure) All this difference has for me been very beneficial I will say. Constant testing of teaching, practices, and statements made by various leaders. I personally reject most things from Judaism. There were 12 tribes (13 if you split Ephraim and Manasseh). Why accept the practices of 1 tribe? Our best shot at biblical adherence is returning to the Torah itself. What do these laws mean to God? What do these laws mean to you? Specifically tzitzits, is this 4 knots placed on corners of your clothing or can this be fringes placed all around your clothing. 4 corners of the earth doesn’t mean earth has 4 sides but implies all around the earth. No one needs to be forced into circumcision but, if after thorough study, the spirit placed it upon you to be circumcised, do it. No one should be forced not to eat pork but if God places that on your heart, stop eating pork. Every man is the head of his household, you determine the practices of your household.

[@justinpetrash1005]

Wanted to clear up that as for my family and I, we believe that we should as best we can, as often as we can, and that we are obligated to follow all the commands of Torah. There are of course limitations. There is not a standing court devoted to Torah, people cannot be sentenced to death buttt the government does bear the sword. We cannot perform sacrifices because there is no standing temple. And some commandments are hard to decipher what exactly they want us to do nowadays. In these cases, it is helpful to study Judaism for how they fulfill the commandment. Do this very carefully not to add or subtract from the command with a Biblical filter guiding you.

[@justinpetrash1005]

Rabbinical Law is very very helpful but like all religions and human made things, they are subject added traditions that are not in line with Torah, this is exactly what Yeshua constantly rebelled against. He didn’t abolish Sabbath but was bringing back to its original purpose and the spirit behind it. In Judaism, there are a lot of rules that can make Sabbath quite burdensome and illogical yet, you can feel sanctification, holiness, Godly order while witnessing a Torah Service Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling

[@cassandra5516]

Your comments here are very level headed and make sense. Going back to Torah, properly diving in, is the most important thing as far as study and adherence goes.

[@Jonathan-ym3yw]

Have to agree to disagree you either followHalacha (Jewish law) or don’t , ofc everyone do what they can, but you strive to follow the 613 mitzvot of you are Jewish and the 7 nohide laws if you are gentile , doesn’t mean you will succeed we all human but that’s the blueprint that you should strive and not be your own Gd and make your own philosophy, Gd bless

[@tomnola7204]

Very well explained. I have always wanted to hear a neutral point on this subject

[@mutecryptid]

I am not jewish, but I love learning of different cultures and believed I had a basic but concrete understanding of judaism. So when I randomly got an ad “encouraging jews to accept Jesus as their messiah” I assumed it was predatory and wanted to understand them more but there was not much neutral information, this video is exactly what I was looking for🎉.

[@DoctorLazertron]

I know a couple people who would object to being called a sales pitch

[@reedermh]

I would like to know what he thinks about Christian churches holding Shabbat services. One of the largest charismatic churches in the country (Gateway Church in the DFW area) does this, as they have had a long history of evangelism to Jewish people.

[@jflaugher]

Here's the problem - these Jewish detractors of Messianic Judaism are overlooking the fact that the original Christians were Jewish. Christianity started as a Jewish movement. Therefore, of course you can be Jewish and believe Jesus is the Messiah. Also, not all Messianic Jews accept the Trinity. Some are unitarians who reject the Trinity.

[@michaelciccone2194]

Why can't Messianic Jews state that they are CHRISTAINS ? WHAT IS THE PROBLEM ? why don't Messianic synagogues have Crosses ? Something is not right.

[@iDrinkMug]

Because Christians do stuff like celebrate Pagan holidays like Christmas and Don’t follow the fact that that Saturday is the sabbath. They go to church on Sunday.. why? For your convenience to watch football on time? Lol

[@jonathan1636]

Alright, I’ll give it a shot-hopefully I won’t come across as disrespectful as the other commenter. though, I think the other commenter was on the right track but their ego got the best of them. 😂 😅 like Christians, Jewish people have practices, traditions that are very dear to them. For example, they’re people with families and-again, like Christians-have a very strong connection to these cultural values and traditions they probably inherited from their family through their involvement in various religious traditions (just like Christians). However, they might also believe Jesus Christ is the messiah, but they don’t want to turn their back to their beloved traditions. Something that might help understand this a bit is to remember that, just like any other person, a messianic Jew does not experience their faith in a vacuum. Instead, they experience it in the context of their immediate social context. For example, I was raised catholic. But, I was received into the Episcopal church. Just because I became Episcopalian doesn’t mean that I don’t go to Catholic mass every now and then. I love hanging out with my grandma. And sometimes, after going to my church on Sunday, I pick her up and we’ll go to her church. (I don’t follow sports l, so church on Sunday isn’t an excuse to watch Sunday football)

[@ashleymcarthy109]

Thank you for putting this out here

[@Descoob]

The MJAA and the UMJC are just two associations out of many. Many Messianic congregations and synagogues can be independent or part of a group that is part of the MJAA and UMJC or part of another group. I need to check the different groups.

[@Snoopdad-zw4mz]

Messianic Jews tried to put Jewish symbols on their chaplain uniforms in the Armed Service, but they were forbidden from doing so.

[@sephardim4yeshua155]

No one who wrote the Old Testament would have been accepted by today’s Jewish community, as they were pointing to Yeshua, Jesus Christ. The Judaism of today is based on a response to 70ad and the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem. They didn’t know what to do after the temple was gone, so Akiva came up with a new religion. I refer to myself as a Messianic Jew, because my family is Jewish, but I don’t make a distinction between a gentile believer and a Jewish one. A Jew that has found messiah is continuing to believe in the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. It is important for Jewish believers to continue in their communities, as they can share the good news of Jesus with them. We are seeing a huge increase of Jews coming to faith and this is exiting to me, so please pray. God bless.

[@ja_aq.ov_]

If you actually believe that, I have a bridge to sell you

[@RudydeGroot]

Dutch Wikipedia quotes that 'messianic jews' are in fact Christians and not Jews. That's why the Dutch Wikipedia correctly calls them a 'messianic movement'. Undoubtedly a more proper term for this Christian sect. Why do I call them a sect? Because Christians abandoned their original religion (Judaism), designed for themselves a deity, a spiritual leader (Jesus, Jèshu, Jeshu'a) and added in their own believes which has nothing to do with Judaism anymore.

[@JmesFloyd76]

Well done research.

[@lilajagears8317]

Bob Dylan is a messianic Jew.

[@carriejesusislord14]

I don’t think so. There is footage where he admits he sold his soul to the devil, it’s sad, but most celebrities are into lucifereaniam , the occult, and satanism.

[@lilajagears8317]

@@carriejesusislord14 He asked for forgivness.

[@Adventureland900]

If these Jews really believe in Jesus Christ they would call themselves Christians too. They would also get rid of the Star of David which resembles the evil Star of Repham.

[@RichardDCook]

Thing is, we can't expect Jesus and his original followers to conform to the Oral Law which hadn't been written at that time. To understand Christianity and Messianic Judaism it helps to go back to the Judaism of the first century, based on the Tanakh without the layers of later reinterpretations and laws (as Karaite Jews do).

[@jamesfrankel7827]

I would suggest that you look a neusners translation from Hebrew to English of the Mishna and some of Jesus words. Why would it follow that you need the oral law written if you are living in early first century when the oral law is still being taught and lived as an oral tradition. That is passed from father to son, from teacher to student.

[@celinegirard5275]

Très très intéressant. Merci beaucoup !

[@freakylocz14]

The Word of God makes it clear that God intended for the Law to be for Jews to observe, not for salvation, but that they may be a light to the Gentiles.

[@HanStanwell]

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28

[@jongoodwin5936]

Our oneness in Christ regardless of and in spite of our identities which might impede our unity with each other and our spiritual union with Christ, is an important emphasis in Holy Scripture; however, who we are, our ethnic identity, is nearly impossible to shed, and nothing underscores that so well as when someone gets up in our face and demands that we discard it.

[@HanStanwell]

@@jongoodwin5936 agreed

[@rawman909]

Good for gentiles. You can believe in what you want. But Jews dont believes in trihead god. No trinity and no man-god. Jesus, btw never believed in those things. This is Paul invention

[@redacted7989]

@@rawman909 Jesus is King.

[@sosassteelstrings9623]

@@rawman909 by what source or evidence do you use to conclude Jesus did not believe himself to be God?

[@paradigmmedia]

Yes, strange that more Jews find atheism less disqualifying in the survey than Jews who believe upon Yeshua/Jesus. Overall an informative video. Thanks.

[@Philoglossos]

It's considered far worse to believe in false gods than to not believe in any.

[@mr.starfish4965]

@@Philoglossos But why is it considered far worse? I understand why Religious Jews would consider the Messianic Jews not Jewish in the religious sense. Christ is God to Messianic Jews, and since Christ isn’t God to religious Jews, it is perceived that Messianic Jews worship a different God. But how is worshipping a false god, whether one of the lower gods such as the Greek deities, or a higher God like Islam’s Allah or Christianity’s LORD, worse than worshipping no god?

[@Philoglossos]

@@mr.starfish4965 My understanding is that idol worship directly violates the 10 commandments. Lacking a belief in any god doesn't. Edit: But Jews don't consider the god of Islam or Christianity to be a separate god from the Jewish god. The problem with Christianity for Jews is the trinity and the worship of Christ. Islam on the other hand is viewed as largely compatible with Judaism - many religious Jews will be happy to pray in a mosque, for instance, but never in a church. Keep in mind that 'allah' isn't a name, it's just the Arabic word for 'god'. Both Jews and Christians who speak Arabic would use the word 'allah'.

[@conovan5081]

@@Philoglossos IMO the real issue is that they keep using ambiguity, when they accept atheists as jews, they are looking through the ethnic lenses, but when an ethnic jew accepts Christ, then their definition shifts to jews being part of the jewish religion, so they can't be accepted.

[@Philoglossos]

@@conovan5081 No, that's not correct. Once again, there's a big difference between a Jew who doesn't practice and a Jew who has betrayed god by worshipping an idol. It's not that atheist jews are being viewed just from an ethnic lens - their Jewish status is still viewed as being determined by halakha.

[@justonetime6179]

So Jews are more likely to accept atheistic Jews as Jewish, even though they believe in no God…. but would reject messianic Jews as Jewish because they believe Jesus is the messiah. Weird!

[@SunshineMcNair]

I thought the same thing.

[@christinacody5845]

Not exactly. It's the difference between cultural and religious Judaism. A cultural Jew follows limits on cloth and food that historically may have had public health influences. A Religious Jew merely follows things that don't believe Jesus is Messiah. It sounds like the religious limit of Jesus is the Messiah and not merely a prophet (just like John the Baptist, Moses, Elijah, etc.)

[@justonetime6179]

@@christinacody5845 but wouldn’t messianic Jews be like cultural Jews though?

[@christinacody5845]

@@justonetime6179 Not exactly. A cultural Jew may not believe in a higher power, just the history of the people portrayed in the OT. A Messianic almost definitely does.

[@aylacraig1815]

because believing in G.d is not a requirement but believing in jesus as the messiah is antithetical to judaism

[@5990babygraceblue]

Absolutely love this channel! It would be neat to see a video on Anabaptist denominations

[@lukassvitek1432]

I agree!

[@enchantingdan3449]

Ah yes. 1 in the morning is a perfectly reasonable time to post a KZbin video. (Just messing around lol. Love your stuff!)

[@jonathansoko1085]

You dont have to watch a video the second its uploaded.

[@isanyoneelseheretoday]

@@jonathansoko1085 but then how would he get his sweet sweet "first" comment 😂

[@lukesalazar9283]

@@isanyoneelseheretoday exactly

[@georgeramos3437]

The brother has a fire shut up in his bones, & couldn’t wait to share the message of the Messiah for both the original believers, the messianic Israelites, & what YAhusha called “another flock have I” (Christians).

[@isanyoneelseheretoday]

@@georgeramos3437 what's the difference between messianic Israelites and Christians?

[@ronashman8463]

Oh how much work you put into these videos young man. Greatly appreciated thank you.

[@stoopidpants]

It's lies of omission and bullcrap. More than happy to explain from the perspective of someone raised Orthodox Jewish.

[@decem_sagittae]

God bless you sir

[@bootmender]

I am like a stray dog that shows up on your porch. I was told My grandfather’s grandfather was a Lithuanian Jew that came to America in the mid 1800’s ? Then my Mother was a runaway mennonite teenager and put in Foster care with my fathers aunt? My father just back from WW2 met my mother and we’re married in the late 40’s. They brought me up in a missionary Baptist Church, but as a teenager I found fault in there doctrine. Then when I got married to a Southern Baptist I became one. I made a profession of faith at 12 and was later call into the Ministry then ordained in 1970 but went to Dallas theological seminary then on to LSU for a PHD in psychology. I now attend a small mennonite/Baptist church where our mission is to help in disaster relief and to share the Saving grace of Jesus Christ.

[@ronashman8463]

Now that is an interesting life!

[@lukesalazar9283]

God Bless!

[@mustachemike7482]

It's quite sad when not believing in God is less of a threat then believing in Jesus within the Jewish community. It seems like God no longer has any purpose within the Jewish identity, there are many atheist Jews who still consider themselves Jewish, yet would rage if a fellow Jew told them they believed in Jesus.

[@ironstrong3431]

I know right

[@zjzr08]

Au contraire, I actually think the disbelief from Rabbinic Judaism (which most of the Jewish heritage after the destruction of the Temple come from) is an open book for secular Jews to seek Jesus IMO, and I think that 33% is progress, when Christianity was seen as taboo for the Jewish world in general before.

[@eldoradolou]

This is a most interesting and informative video about Messianic Judaism. Could you please make a video about the Hebrew Catholics as well?

[@tamararutland-mills9530]

Being a Catholic and born again Catholic are two different things all together. You must be born again in order to enter the kingdom of heaven; thereafter your choice of liturgical style is something that the Holy Spirit will lead you into.

[@matthewbateman6487]

Yes Hebrew Catholicism would be super interesting! I sorta thought I was the only person who knew about it.

[@hugoramirez7510]

No one is born again only until we die and are chosen as set-apart ones to reign with Messiah it is written. Yahshua didn't come to make religions. If you are not grafted into ISRAEL and are grafted into something else "religions" you are lost lost lost. (John 4:22 ts2009) You worship what you do not know. We worship what we know, because the deliverance is of the Yehuḏim.🙏💜 HalleluYAH🙌

[@LitoLochoss]

@@hugoramirez7510 wrong

[@ooffordays566]

This is a really interesting group to learn about! I had never heard of them before watching this video, but I knew that the majority of Christians during the time of Paul the Apostle were of Jewish descent, so hearing that there is a sect of Christian-adjacent Jews today is really interesting, and hearing their unique perspective on the body of Christ is truly fascinating and insightful.

[@HesderOleh]

They aren't really Christian adjacent Jews. They are a Christian denomination that has a few a few token jews to try to spread the gospel to Jews.

[@TwoMessianicJews]

You might enjoy our channel! :)

[@metsfan1873]

MJ's are NOT Jews and they are NOT "Jewish adjacent." They are Christians who are ashamed of the label "Christian."

[@rachelorlando6296]

They aren't Christian-adjacent Jews, they're Christians pretending to be Jews.

[@metsfan1873]

@@rachelorlando6296 More accurately, they're Ebionite Christian heretics, but they probably don't know this word. But don't tell them, it would just make them sad. They are Christian heretics pretending to be Christians pretending to be Jews. Now, some Christians would say - hey wait, they aren't Christian heretics, they're authentic Christians. As a Jew I have to back away and say: That's a dispute between Christians, nothing to do with us! Either they're authentic Christians, or else they're heretical Christians - y'all can sort that out without us. From a Jewish POV, not our problem. What KIND of Christians they are - nothing to do with us either way.

[@Dorn-Dvinn]

This was a very interesting, broad and deep examination of Messianic Judaism.

[@sheo3811]

There's a lack of information about Messianic Judaism on KZbin, so I'm glad you've made this video. I was given a pamphlet by a "Jews for Jesus" representative at my university when I was visiting over the summer. As someone who comes from a Protestant Christian background I became very interested in their movement,.

[@dexterd4156]

kzbin.info

[@raynitaylor1912]

There's a lot of different theological differences between the individual groups over just about everything but centrally they all believe that Torah is still relevant today as it was long ago.

[@jonathansoko1085]

I have to disagree, the messianic judaism and all of its off shoots have a GIANT presence on youtube

[@dsheppard8492]

Protestant Christian background,,, that sounds like an expression coming from one who is lukewarm at best. This type are ripe for seducing into their clutches. They are the woman of Proverbs 7. Don't go in there!!!

[@ben8557]

Unfortunately, a lot of those groups use modern Jewish practice which makes no sense if you desire to go back to Jesus' time. Jesus' seder probably looked very different from modern seders. Rabbinic Judaism and Christianity both developed out of Isrealite/Judean religion. Smashing both traditions together doesn't make it any more authentic to what was practiced back then. Sincerely a Reform Jew

[@frankmckinley1254]

MJAA are heavily connected to Evangelical denominations. I know of two Christian pastor's that are also MJAA Rabbi's. Judaism's today was formed between the fall of the Temple in 70 CE and the failed Bar Chovah revolt several year's later. Coming from the sect of the Pharisee's, there were 5 sects in the second Temple period. The sect of the Nazarene was one.

[@patrickmccarthy7877]

The 12 apostles were Messianic Jews, the first Christians were Jews, so this isn't new. Love God, love people and love learning. That's my religion.

[@cjgallardo957]

There is a major difference. Rabbinic Judaism today is not the same as Judaism was back then.

[@patrickmccarthy7877]

@@cjgallardo957 Why don't Jews sacrifice animals anymore, Leviticus says they have to do it. Because Jesus paid it all.

[@twenty-fifth420]

As an agnostic, these are my favorite new obsession. I just love researching and learning the theological metaphysics and/or community and spiritual traditions, beliefs and practices. Please do not stop ever making these ‘neutral’ videos, you are doing god’s work as far as I can tell.

[@sorenpx]

Ah, but have you considered believing in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus?

[@jacobnestle3805]

>agnostic >God's work hmm

[@twenty-fifth420]

@@jacobnestle3805 Dont take this too seriously memer lol. It is clear hyperbole.

[@HesderOleh]

This really wasn't neutral, it didn't really explain the full reason why Jews do not consider them Jewish or give the history of the movement from the 1960s.

[@twenty-fifth420]

@@HesderOleh This is also a reference to another video from Ready to Harvest that claims he himself claims because it is a neutral viewpoint due to the nature of the world; that it must be accepted as generally wrong. Nothing to do with the content of the video tbh.

[@fluffysheap]

I'm glad you made this video. From a Christian perspective, I think we should have closer ties between Christian and Jew in general. Again from a Christian perspective, I can't really see, theologically, why Messianic Jews would be considered less welcome than atheists, or less Jewish than liberal Jews who don't follow the Law. Jesus doesn't cause anyone to stop being ethnically or culturally Jewish. Jesus and the Apostles were all Jews, and Paul indicates that Jews were supposed to be, if anything, first among equals in the world of Christians, and that they would still be Jews as well.

[@HesderOleh]

From a Jewish perspective keeping Jewish law doesn't have anything to do with whether you are Jewish or not, just like a doctor is still a doctor even if they don't have a medical practice. Choosing a different faith does make you not part of the Jewish community, just like if you start eating meat you are no longer a vegan. Maybe this would clear things up, a Christian who doesn't go to church regularly is still a Christian, if they start believing in the hindu gods then they aren't a christian.

[@---wp3oc]

​@@HesderOleh You have an overly restrictive definition of Jew that disqualifies the majority of Jews (who are not religious) from being Jewish. After all, how can you be Jewish when you don't even believe in the Jewish God?

[@HesderOleh]

@@---wp3oc No, the jews who are not religous are just not practicing they haven't converted to another religion. Here is an example, a country has a draft for fight another country, you don't lose your citizenship just because you are a conscientious objector or you don't fight for some other reason, but if you sign up to fight in the enemy country's army then you do lose your citizenship. Just because the name of the unit is called your country if you are working to recruit people to the enemy's army then you aren't part of your country's army. Now this military analogy isn't to say that religions should be fighting. In fact any respectful interfaith group will not include groups that call themselves messianic Jews.

[@---wp3oc]

​@@HesderOleh Well, that's the problem with the military analogy, religions aren't all technically at war with each other, and in many cases atheists, agnostics, and secularists do struggle against their former (or other) religions, in other words, "actively oppose the war effort".

[@didonegiuliano3547]

jews denied Christ; there’s nothing we have to do with them

[@redacted7989]

Revelation 3:9 [New Testament] ¹⁷⁶⁹ᐟᴷᴶⱽ ⁹ Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

[@wyllowgrayson8531]

hello, i love your videos. can you make one about sedevacantist Catholics?

[@planteruines5619]

they are not catholics , they broke off from the pope ...

[@NurseJoyTV]

If you're a Christian, and wants to practice Messianic Judaism, do they need to convert?

[@alishavogel7926]

No. I am not a Jew, but I go to a Messianic Synagogue and believe in Yeshua as my Savior.

[@warrior-0078]

​@@alishavogel7926 hey i need to know more about messanic Judaism..im from Hindu nation

[@mymessagerknowledge]

There's KZbin channels and websites that are messianic. One I watch sometimes is called Beth Messiah.

[@mymessagerknowledge]

​@@warrior-0078youtube.com/@bethmessiah?si=4xl_eRAPCvNbuDjc

[@warrior-0078]

@@alishavogel7926 where is the messanic synagogue location

[@yellowelmo1474]

Can you make a video on why many Christians believe the Old Testament is invalid? I've always been super confused about this.

[@powerfulaura5166]

Christians do not really believe this. They do most generally believe that the Old Testament law is not incumbent on them for salvation (only belief in Christ, his deity, & sacrifice/resurrection can accomplish that), & that that the ritual law is not prescribed to them at all.

[@yellowelmo1474]

@@powerfulaura5166 Thank you for your reply! This actually makes me have even more questions haha. Why do they think the New Testament is only necessary for salvation? Do they still believe everything in the Old Testament happened? And if they don't believe any of the Old laws apply to them, do they accept any other type of teachings from the Old Testament?

[@yellowelmo1474]

@@mingledingle1556 "Invalid" is probably the wrong term, but whenever I hear someone mention something from the Old Testament, I hear a Christian saying "but that's the Old Testament"

[@haroldfisher7528]

@@mingledingle1556 I'd like to add that Christans largely do things out of the law of moses, but only the things pertaining to morality. They are also repeated in the new testimate.

[@onewholovesvenison5335]

The Marcionites, an early heretical sect who literally believed the Gods of the old and new testaments were different beings, had their own scriptural cannon which excluded the Old Testament.

[@siwardwoudstra1751]

"Contextualizing our faith in cultural forms is good; making this contextualization the standard for all cultures represents a fatal misunderstanding of the Gospel" This message needs to be heard in the many others contexts it is relevant in.

[@wesfortney5294]

Most notably the medical billing industry, I mean does anyone still call it healthcare...

[@redacted7989]

Revelation 2:9 [New Testament] ¹⁷⁶⁹ᐟᴷᴶⱽ ⁹ I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

[@sheo3811]

Really enjoyed the video, Joshua! I was wondering if you had considered making a video about Armstrongism?

[@alex21mu]

Greetings, I’m born and raised Church of God Seventh Day

[@halfsheephalfjesus7357]

The messianic JEWS need to read the new testament again. Specifically where it says there is no difference between JEW and GENTILE.

[@dsheppard8492]

Exactly. All they are doing is putting themselves on a pedestal. They are above the rest,,, more enlightened.

[@onewholovesvenison5335]

beck c. Yes. Just because they convert to Christianity does not mean they have to shed their ethnic identity. Many Jewish traditions and customs are still compatible with Christian teachings and theology.

[@halfsheephalfjesus7357]

@@beckc.5084 you are deceived. Reread it! Man is the head of woman and Christ the head of man and God the head of Christ

[@halfsheephalfjesus7357]

@@beckc.5084 you stepped out of the boundaries of scripture and truth. Throw your false logic in the trash and believe the Bible. Believe it all not just what you pick and choose. It is a harmony and you strike a foul cord within it with your logic. The God of the old is the same as the new. God is one. Bible scholars are the wisdom of the wise that God frustrated because you lean on your own understanding. Just like God I cannot stand people like that. Man is the head of woman

[@halfsheephalfjesus7357]

@@beckc.5084 It's ok to be wrong

[@freshmanna4678]

1. His name in Hebrew is pronounced Yeh-SHOO-ah. 2. Jews expect a Messiah, don’t they? If they then believe Jesus/Yeshua as their Messiah, how does that make them no longer Jewish? They simply found their Messiah, a very Jewish thing to do.

[@freshmanna4678]

@Anna's Mind 444 I know many Jewish friends who do. They don’t cease being Jewish because they believe Messiah has already come.

[@johnpratts2856]

As a Messianic, I believe we Gentiles have it mixed up. Christianity wasn't supposed to exist. Because Christianity is supposed to be part of Judaism. The completion of the Word. Unfortunately, it was the Romans and other Gentiles that recreated believers in Jesus as a completely separate religion from the Jews. Hence, this 2000 year problem lol. Now we have all sorts of denominations everywhere and now, the Jewish people are starting to believe in Jesus. They are the firstborn of God and we as Gentiles, must follow them to further understand the Word in Messiah.

[@freshmanna4678]

@@johnpratts2856 I agree with you completely.

[@freshmanna4678]

Exactly, Anna!

[@cadian101st]

I think Messianic Judaism runs into the fatal issue of Acts. There view has been fundamentally dismissed since the earliest period of the Church, by second temple Jews. In many ways it is a syncretisation of modern Judaism, with many of its post Christ innovations, with Christianity. The second temple Jews simply became Christian or rabbinical after the first century, messianic Judaism feels like trying to have your cake and eat it too

[@sigmanocopyrightmusic8737]

Bs totally biased laws. The Sabbath and laws were followed till the fifth century. David wilber proves why the law must be kept.

[@HerbertPrince]

On KZbin, Search for: Lion and Lamb Ministries, Monte Judah. Monte has a teaching titled 'Letter to the Gentiles', referring to Acts chapter 15. As of August 2024, Monte Judah has been teaching the Torah for 40 years. You would love hearing him teach the Torah every Friday evening.

[@highlanderthegreat]

what about ROMANS 2:29 today when someone comes to believe in jesus as their savior....it says...FOR HE IS NOT A JEW, OUTWARDLY. " BY CIRCUMCISION OF THE FLESH " ...THE NEW CIRCUMCISION IS THAT OF THE HEART, THE SPIRIT, NOT BY THE LETTER OF THE LAW ,OUR PRAISE IS FROM GOD...THE LAW IS NOW WRITTEN ON THE PERSONS HEART...

[@RH-ch4cp]

Amen 🕊️

[@redacted7989]

1 Thessalonians 2:14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: 15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: 16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

[@freespeech4all757]

I guess I'll throw my hat in the ring. I was raised in a conservative Jewish home; we were culturally Jewish, but pretty secular. We ate ham and bacon and shellfish without thinking about it, and went to the synagogue twice a year (Yom Kipper and Passover). I never felt connected to the religion I was brought up in and my home life was pretty dysfunctional so I fell into the drug and party scene. After floundering about in that haze for awhile, I got radically saved through the witness of a Christian friend. I then asked "What do I do next?" The answer was "Pray and read your Bible." I then asked "Where should I go to church?" The answer: "Let the Holy Spirit lead you". Pray and read your Bible. Let the Holy Spirit lead you. Those basics have held me in good stead for over 40 years now. If you wanted to put me in some kind of theological box, I'd say I'm basically a Protestant Christian - Messianic Jew, largely dispensational in outlook, and a continuationist. A defining moment came for me after I had been a Christian for about 4 years. I was going to get into my car with my Bible, and I heard a voice say - directly into my mind - "What you are holding in your hand is the Word of God.' It wasn't audible, but it WAS powerful, spoken right into my being. That conviction has never left me. Personally, I've never been attracted to Messianic Worship or congregations, though I've visited a few. As far as where I worship, I let the Holy Spirit guide me. I'm currently worshipping at a Pentecostal church (not oneness) which is also sabbatarian, even though I'm not. In the past I've worshipped mostly AOG, but had times of attending Baptist, Methodist, and even Anglican churches. They were interesting experiences, but not suitable for the long term. My strongest guiding principle comes from 2 Peter 3:18: "Grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." That, and nothing equals or supersedes that which is found in the 66 books which make up Holy Scripture.

[@edwardhill7045]

Jews were the only nation that knew the One True God .Jesus said that was the case .But since Jesus disciples went to teach all nations Jews are not the only ones who know the One True God .And that wisdom of God is truly a blessing .I thank God for Jesus who was sent to share that knowledge with me a gentile

[@HolaBruv]

Christ is god don’t make distinctions

[@edwardhill7045]

@@HolaBruv the gospel that Jesus taught acknowleges both the Father and the Son so to say that Jesus is God is not true Christian doctrine nor is it the gospel that Jesus taught

[@edwardhill7045]

@@HolaBruv so if you believe that Jesus is God then you believe in a variation of the gospel and not the one sent by Christ to teach all nations

[@edwardhill7045]

@@HolaBruv and in case you were wondering i am still around and the devil at this time cant touch me .the devil may have you catholics scared to death but true believers have Gods protections and the devil cant touch us until God wants us to come to heaven

[@HolaBruv]

@@edwardhill7045 Brother I couldn’t understand you What? Im not even a catholic if that’s what you think I’m. What do you believe in though whose god to you? And what kind of variations of gospel are you speaking

[@joshuacooley1417]

I'm sure that there are lots of flavors of messianic Judaism. However, having grown up as a protestant among protestants who were really into all things Jewish, and loved messianic Judaism, my experience is that most messianic Jews I've ever met are just mainstream protestants with a thin veneer of Jewish culture applied over the top.

[@Draganism]

I have a complex response to this video that would be too long to be said here, but the scholars interpretation of Rom. 3:29-30, that he can read that passage how he does with a straight face is outrageous. It says nothing of the sort that he attributes to the passage. It does not advocate the ongoing seperation of Jews and gentiles but that there is only one people under one God. That is, it says the exact opposite, plainly, to what the scholar claims. How they get away with this is a mystery to me.

[@dsheppard8492]

The ranks of the apostates just keep growing. They look like a lamb but speak as a dragon,,, Rev 13

[@redacted7989]

Galatians 4:8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods. 9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? 10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. 11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain. 12 Brethren, I beseech you, be as I am; for I am as ye are: ye have not injured me at all. 13 Ye know how through infirmity of the flesh I preached the gospel unto you at the first. 14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus. 15 Where is then the blessedness ye spake of? for I bear you record, that, if it had been possible, ye would have plucked out your own eyes, and have given them to me. 16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? 17 They zealously affect you, but not well; yea, they would exclude you, that ye might affect them. 18 But it is good to be zealously affected always in a good thing, and not only when I am present with you. 19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, 20 I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you. 21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? 22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. 28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. 30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. 31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

[@samuelrobinson5842]

As Christians we need to know the Torah/OT better. In my walk with the Spirit I have been led to a more Jewish mindset so I celebrate the Jewish holidays and see how Christ is pictured in them. I would like to keep a saturday sabbath but I do not know any churches or messianic synogogues around me to be able to do that

[@sweetcuppan2784]

Sabbath means rest. Rest from laborious work. You can observe the 7th day on your own. Under the new convenant all that the believers do is for relationship purposes and not for religious purposes. Shalom.

[@liacrow]

Great video! I'm a Messianic Jew but I certainly learned a lot in regards to the difference between the MJAA, UMJC, and IAMCS. I'll have to share this video with some of my relatives, some are Catholic and some are Jewish and all seem rather confused about what I believe in.

[@TwoMessianicJews]

Check out our channel! :)

[@burnttoast6924]

I would recommend watching some videos from Tovia Singer if you haven’t already

[@mastergmoore]

Brother bless you! May Christ always be walking with you. Look to Rabbi Schneider He is brilliant and walks with God. As a Christian I learned very much from his channel.

[@hugoramirez7510]

Tobia Singer is a False Prophet. Yahshua didn't come to make religions. If you are not grafted into ISRAEL and are grafted into something else "religions" you are lost lost lost. (John 4:22 ts2009) You worship what you do not know. We worship what we know, because the deliverance is of the Yehuḏim.🙏💜 HalleluYAH🙌

[@ri3m4nn]

@@burnttoast6924 lol yeah, if you want to see a time traveling Pharisee. Listening to him sounds like arguments with Jesus straight from the Bible. It's hilarious

[@daveb9342]

You're either in Christ or not. All the rest is irrelevant, superfluous, nothingness.

[@fumble_brewski5410]

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all ONE in Christ Jesus." (Gal. 3:28) "For He Himself is our peace, who has made both ONE, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself ONE new man from the two, thus making peace." (Ephesians. 2:14-16) I'm not trying to be critical or judgmental, but it sounds to me as though our Jewish brethren are attempting to rebuild that same wall which our Lord Jesus abolished nearly 2000 years ago. The Apostle Paul (Rav Shaul) goes on to tell us, "For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God." (Romans 2:28-29) Maranatha.

[@woodyhayes7402]

It really is this simple. Appears Satan has tricked Messianics....

[@USA50_]

I often say Jesus was a Jew and am proud of growing up in Christian traditions while also respecting Jewish cultural traditions. My thoughts of Jesus is that he did participate in Jewish life/traditions plus he read the Torah in Temple. So, we can respect the concept of messianic leadership in Judaism. ❤️🙂🇺🇲

[@hugoramirez7510]

Yahshua didn't come to make religions. If you are not grafted into ISRAEL and are grafted into something else "religions" you are lost lost lost. (John 4:22 ts2009) You worship what you do not know. We worship what we know, because the deliverance is of the Yehuḏim.🙏💜 HalleluYAH🙌

[@rev.stephena.cakouros948]

Some Messianic Jews have a separatist mentality. Part of the problem is the Dispensational school of theology which has always fostered the notion that the final difference between the Jew and the Gentile has not been overcome by the Gospel. And if so the Jew will again return to spiritual prominence. He won’t just be part of the overall plan of God. This creates a mindset that can come between them and Gentile believers, who are in fact for time and eternity their equals, as foreseen by the prophets, Hosea 1:10, and explained by the apostle Paul in Ephesians 2: 13-22. If it is asked how the difference between the Jew and the Gentile could have been erased it is because that difference was not fundamental. It served a purpose for a time. Messianic Jews must therefore accept the fact that according to Jeremiah 31:31-32, and Matthew 21:43, the church of the Living God, which places Jews and Gentiles on the same footing, is now the Israel of God; where what counts is not your ethnicity but whether you have been renewed in the Holy Spirit, see Galatians 6: 15-16.

[@TwoMessianicJews]

If you would like to understand the Messianic Jewish case for ongoing distinction and the value of ongoing distinction, check out our video about it. You may disagree, but this is a good place to start in trying to understand where we are coming from :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKC0eqJteryneck

[@tigger55100]

You did a great and fantastic job in presenting the Messianic Judaism in full context. It seems a secret that many are seem to be discovering.

[@redacted7989]

Titus 1:10-16 [New Testament] ¹⁸⁹⁸ᐟʸᴸᵀ ¹⁰ for there are many both insubordinate, vain-talkers, and mind-deceivers -- especially they of the circumcision -- ¹¹ whose mouth it behoveth to stop, who whole households do overturn, teaching what things it behoveth not, for filthy lucre's sake. ¹² A certain one of them, a prophet of their own, said -- `Cretans! always liars, evil beasts, lazy bellies!' ¹³ this testimony is true; for which cause convict them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, ¹⁴ not giving heed to Jewish fables and commands of men, turning themselves away from the truth; ¹⁵ all things, indeed, [are] pure to the pure, and to the defiled and unstedfast [is] nothing pure, but of them defiled [are] even the mind and the conscience; ¹⁶ God they profess to know, and in the works they deny [Him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work disapproved.

[@alexproduction4476]

I'm Messianic Jew

[@wbl5649]

I went to a Messianic congregation for some time. But after much consideration and prayer I came to believe they are pretty much judiazers and steeped in too much legalism and left.

[@techgurutoo]

Easy up on that antisemitism.

[@elishevaish]

They are Jewish Christians/ Jews that are Christians. But not part of Judaism or a Jewish sect. The movement was created by protestant evangelicals. The Catholic church has recently chosen a more honest aproach- calling Jewish converts, "Hebrew Christians". In any case carholicism is obviously closer to Judaism, both historically and ideologically. There is nothing Jewish about Christ alone (rather than One God alone), scripture alone and faith alone. They have also stopped targeting Jews for missionary efforts.

[@lordwinterdawn111]

I started to learn of Messianic Judaism back in 2012. I did feel like something was missing from my understanding of not only Adonai, but Yeshua as well. It brought me closer to Adonai and it helped me understand a even clearer perspective of what the entire bible was saying. I just wanted to follow the path that will set my foundation. To most people, it is a taboo on what I'm in observance of. Yet, I never felt more confident or closer than I am now to Adonai.

[@tamararutland-mills9530]

Open your heart and mind to Hashem. Seek Him with all your heart, and ask Him to reveal the Messiah to you. He will do just that because you are already on the right path.

[@hugoramirez7510]

Yahshua didn't come to make religions. If you are not grafted into ISRAEL and are grafted into something else "religions" you are lost lost lost. (John 4:22 ts2009) You worship what you do not know. We worship what we know, because the deliverance is of the Yehuḏim.🙏💜 HalleluYAH🙌

[@rachelorlando6296]

Using Hebrew words and Jewish concepts doesn't make you a Jew. Learn the fullness of our religion from OUR teachers, not from others claiming to be ours. The only people who are swayed by messianic "Jews" are ones who never fully understood their own religion in the first place.

[@Spiritual144Israel]

​@@rachelorlando6296 If you are a "Jew" that rejected Christ you are in error. If you are a "Jew" that accepts Christ as the Messiah you are in truth. Yeshua said "I am the way, the truth, and the life, nobody gets to the Father YAH but through me."

[@MaryamMaqdisi]

It is a bit funny that I so often see Messianic Jews spell out the names of God, even the Ten Commandments say not to lol

[@leadhesh]

All Christians are Jews. “Just as Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. Therefore, recognize that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “All the nations will be blessed in you.” So then, those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer.” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3‬:‭6‬-‭9 NASB

[@Buhjr]

Nicely done. Since the fall holy days are soon upon us, it would be nice to see a survey( if have done so before) how many observed the holy days of God found in Leviticus chapter 23, just study them, and no action is taking. I personally observed them along with others in my community of Faith as prophecy fulfilled or will be fulfilled and marriage covenant fulfillment . I attended a Baptist congregation.

[@ofthewaytruthandlight1320]

We are all Jews, in Christ Jesus. Amen!!!! Without Christ, no one is a Jew. All in Christ Jesus, are now Jews. Who are the jew-ish people? I know of Jews( Judah). Who are the Gentiles? Gentiles are pagans. Pagans worship other gods( satan, and the other fallen angels). Pagans reject the Almight God/ Christ. The 1st of the 10 Commandments says,"Thou shall have no other gods before me." * Christ is the Promise fulfilled to Abraham. If you are in Christ, you are Abraham's seed. If you are in Christ, you are a Jew." I'm a Jew, you are a Jew.* I will still say: That is not the true Isreal. I too use to believe that they were chosen by God. Perhaps, some remnants of the true Isreal have decided to move back there later. However, the new occupants since 1948/1949 are not the true Israel. You must ask, what happened to the original occupants? Judaism, like all other "isms," is not of God. It is a form of satanism. So who are these people? Gentiles. They converted to their own made up religion years ago, which is a mixture of Babylonianism and their own ritualistic practices; taking parts of the Old Testament Scriptures, then merging it with the Babylonian Mystery Religions. Perhaps, they converted to their own religion of Judaism as a way to not displease their neighbors the Roman Catholics(who wanted all to convert to catholism or be destroyed), or their other neighbor, Islam of the Ottoman Empire. So to not be the enemy of either, they invented Judaism as a way of escape. Are they god's chosen people as in satan? Yes. Are they God Almighty's chosen people? No. Didn't their Babylonian Talmud states that Christians are Idol worshipers because they call Christ Jesus, God? Didn't the Babylonian Talmud states that all idol worshipers including Christians are guilty and punishable by beheadings? "The Talmud urges Jews to do a variety of harms to Christians, such as mur-der and theft, and teaches that each death of a Christian serves as a substitute for the temple sacrifices, which would then hasten the arrival of their Jewish messiah." (The Talmud Unmasked - Wikipedia). If they want to be considered God Almighty's chosen people they have to abandon their Babylonian Religion and come in by the only Way which is Christ Our Lord and Saviour. Until then, they are of their father the devil, and the devil's work they will do. The star of Remphan(satan). Not all roads lead to the True God. To get to God the Father, you must come through Christ. All religions that deny that Jesus is the Messiah(the Christ), do not worship the True God. If Judaism and all other religions are not serving God Almighty, then who is the god they serve? They serve remphan(satan). Who Is Antichrist? 2 John verse 7, KJV. "For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." 1 John 2: 22, KJV. " Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." If you deny God's Son, he will deny and reject you. You are worshipping satan by default. Judaism is another form of Satanism. Test the spirits, to see if they are truly of the True God-Yah, who rides on the clouds. God needs no star as His Image, because Christ represents Him, and Christ is God's Image. It seems that those who worship the devil and his angels, must represent it by using the star, and other occult symbols. The star of satan comes in many forms, and it symbolizes the worship of satan, in disguise. See it as the pentagram, the masonic seal, the star of David, the seal of Solomon, see it in Rastafarianism, see it in Hinduism and Buddhism. See it as the Kagome Crest, the Swastika, Kolob, the Catholic star of David on the popes mitre, etc. All religious sects that uses this star, is worshiping Satan. True followers of Christ should reject these stars. Truth is David, had no star. Acts 7:43, KJV. " You also took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan. Images which you made to worship, and I will carry you away beyond Babylon." Revelation 2:9, KJV. " I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of satan." Revelation 3:9,KJV. " Behold I will make them of the synagogue of satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." I know we shouldn't focus on genealogy, because Christ’s Blood is most important. The geneology of Genesis tells you who is who. Who are these people? Gentiles. Even their own scholastic history books state that they are from the Japhethic lineage, and Ashkenazi, and from the Khazars. Japheth is not Judah. Japheth is not Isreal. Japheth is not Hebrew. Ashkenazi and Khazaria are neither Isreal, Judah nor Hebrew. It is written, "Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. *The sons of JAPHETH; Gomer, and MAGOG, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. And the sons of Gomer; ASHKENAZ, and Riphath, and Togarmah. And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish. Kittim, and Dodanim. By these were the isles of the GENTILES divided in their lands; everyone after his tongue, after their families, in their nations." Genesis 10:1-5, KJV*. Shem's descendants are the Shemites/Semites-from this lineage you get the Hebrews- Abraham, Isaac, Jacob(Israel). From Jacob(also called Israel), you get 12 tribes, one of which is Judah. From Judah's geneology we get the Lion of the Tribe of Judah( Christ our Lord). Only Judah's descendants are called Jews, in English. The Blood of Jesus( King of kings)will graft you in. Galatians 3:28, " There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Another name for Gentile is Pagan, Unbeliever, Heretic. Has God forgotten about the true bloodline Isreal? No. God knows who is who, if you read Revelation chapter 21, it speaks of the New Jerusalem( The Bride of Christ), and how she is built beautifully. Verse 12 says, "Also she had a great and high wall with 12 gates, and twelve angels at the gates, and names written on them, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the Children of Israel." God will gather the remnants of Isreal's descendants who have returned to worshipping Him only. He hasn't forgotten about the remnants of the 12 Tribes. He has always loved thee, oh Israel. For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." (Romans 2:28,29) I will repeat: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female; for ye all are one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Galatians 3:28,29)

[@Mortykai]

Great video, and you do such a wonderful job of explaining these topics in a way that is easy for people like me to understand! Keep up the good work!

[@hugoramirez7510]

Yahshua didn't come to make religions. If you are not grafted into ISRAEL and are grafted into something else "religions" you are lost lost lost. (John 4:22 ts2009) You worship what you do not know. We worship what we know, because the deliverance is of the Yehuḏim.🙏💜 HalleluYAH🙌

[@Mortykai]

@@hugoramirez7510 Worshiping in spirit and truth is what is important. Yeshua, Jesus, etc. imo isn't really important as long as you're talking about the same person of the Messiah, the Christ, the King of kings & Lord of lords. Religions, denominations, etc. are all divisions in the Body of Christ, and while there are definitely differences in beliefs that are important to make distinctions between, saving faith in Christ Jesus is what is truly important!

[@romayamartinez665]

Personally, I don’t see any difference between Messianic and Christians. Boths religions are very much attached, in many ways, to paganism as I came to find out in my search for the right church. Christians completely disregard the 4th commandment, The Lord’s Feasts and replaced them with catholic pagan “holy” days. Messianics practice many Jewish pagan rituals and teachings that are NOT in the Bible but that they had adopted from the Talmud, the most profane book ever written in human history! Some messianic preachers even quote teachings from such a book! How insane is that! God’s people really need a rough awakening from The Lord Himself. He wants a church that is without wrinkle or blemish, and for that we might have to go through fire. Neither religion wants to leave Babylon (Idolatry). The book of Revelations 18:4 tells God’s people to get out of Babylon so judgment won’t fall upon us during the time of tribulation. Friends, let us do exactly what the Bible says, not as humans teach. Please! 🙏❤️

[@BillyEilish]

Great video, and the quotes make it even better, so we can see opposing views. So many sects with extra steps.

[@notcrazy6288]

Talk about messed up priorities. Jews who DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD are still Jews, but Jews who do believe in God, celebrate every mainline Jewish tradition, teaching, and Holiday, but believe that Jesus was the promised Messiah, are not Jews. Honestly, wtf?

[@jonathansoko1085]

Years ago i almost joined a local messianic jewish congregation but then i realized they utilized the Talmud and for obvious reasons i see that as a gigantic problem.

[@FriarJoe66]

Why do you see that as a problem? Not being confrontational, just curious!

[@FriarJoe66]

@@mingledingle1556 I don’t think that’s sufficient to throw the whole Talmud away, is it not within the realm of possibility that Jewish leaders following the same God as Christians may have teachings that are worth something?

[@FriarJoe66]

@@mingledingle1556 again, I think that’s an awful lot of content to claim that there’s absolutely nothing theologically useful in the entire body of work.

[@jamesreed5678]

@@FriarJoe66 Do Christians and unbelieving Jews have the same God. Jesus hard answers than in John 8:44.

[@jamesreed5678]

@@FriarJoe66 The Talmud defines rabbinical Judaism, the post-Jesus religion that now calls itself Judaism. The Talmud is decidedly Antichrist and Antigentile.

[@nathaliebolton6908]

Would you ever consider doing a video on the IFB vs. the New IFB (Steven Anderson and such.)? The only comparison I've ever seen was a clip of Steven himself explaining it in a Fundie Fridays video and I don't think he is someone I wanna learn anything from. :D

[@tzadiko]

The 30% who believe that Messianics are still Jews is a highly misleading figure. Even the most extremely Orthodox Jew, who is totally opposed to the Messianic Jewish faith, and believes it to be 100% false and even idolatrous, would answer "yes" and be included in that 30%. This is because Jewish identity is passed by birth to a Jewish mother and no beliefs, no matter how non-Jewish or false, will take that identity away. Many people are interpreting that 30% as "accepting Messianic belief as a valid form of Judaism". That is NOT what all those 30% believe!

[@CaptianRavioli]

Messianic Jew here, I love this video and I appreciate someone talking about the topic. it sometimes feels like people either don't know we exist or hate us because we do

[@corncake-21]

Agreed! I come from a messianic Jewish family and it’s really sad like you said how many are unaware of its existence. I’ve received a ton of hate unfortunately from those of the Jewish faith, insisting that Judaism is cultural at its core (which makes no sense, it’s a culture/ethnic group as well as a religion). I have zero interest in debating them

[@ShebrewQueen]

But who are the Jews? I’m not talking about these converts, of European descent, who claim to be Jews. I’m talking about the biological children of Abraham. Where are they? Who are they? Hiding in plain sight.

[@rbrinks5]

Messianic Jews sound like people who want to eat ice cream but then not gain any weight

[@belkys120]

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