What is Methadone? Methadone vs Suboxone For Treating Opioid Addiction

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Dr. B Addiction Recovery

Dr. B Addiction Recovery

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@mzcarmen1677
@mzcarmen1677 4 жыл бұрын
I take methadone daily. I've been in it for almost 9 yrs now. My highest dose was 135mgs. It's taken me 3 yrs to get down to 65mgs. I never got high from it though. I've used Suboxen but only during detox at a rehab center & only for 2 weeks. I kept relapsing so I got on methadone. Back then they didn't prescribe it like they do now. If I had a choice I think I'd like the Vivitrol shot cuz it's a once a month thing. I gotta admit methadone saved my life. I work the program..going to counseling...staying clean & seeing the Dr about 4 times a yr. Whatever you choose to get & keep you sober is ok by me!!! As long as the end result is sobriety. I love your videos Dr. B!! You explain things so even us junkies can understand.
@sniper1444
@sniper1444 2 жыл бұрын
@@wangson that energy boost seems to be a true sign of someone with an affinity for opiate addiction, myself included. Many people, like my wife, hate how opiates make them feel and are definitely not energized by them.
@wangson
@wangson 2 жыл бұрын
@@sniper1444 Oh absolutely! I've always enjoyed how it has made me feel - same with the Oxy that I originally started with. Beyond that, I too am familiar with people who don't react to opiates with a sense of euphoria or a sense of contentedness but rather, have told me that any time they've taken an opiate, they've simply been made to fall asleep. They literally have the exact opposite reaction as I do to opiates.
@travisshort07
@travisshort07 Жыл бұрын
Not all junkies are illiterate so definitely don’t say us maybe you
@ultramindcontrolrealzz8367
@ultramindcontrolrealzz8367 Жыл бұрын
I took methadone for years if anyone says they dont get high from it they are lieing
@ultramindcontrolrealzz8367
@ultramindcontrolrealzz8367 Жыл бұрын
Never got high from it ok i believe you
@MrNorthphoenix
@MrNorthphoenix Жыл бұрын
I used methadone to kick my habit.... used it for about 6 months and weaned myself down to taking nothing... been clean for about 18 years now, thanks to my wife and God I have been sober since getting clean!
@chriskoch7794
@chriskoch7794 Жыл бұрын
Friggin awesome
@dlife7427
@dlife7427 Жыл бұрын
Lucky you never got hooked on Fent dope like all the people now.
@MrNorthphoenix
@MrNorthphoenix Жыл бұрын
@@dlife7427 ya i was blessed that wasnt around when i messed up cuz ida been another stat probably
@neilmoore5387
@neilmoore5387 Жыл бұрын
Well done pal 👍🏼
@dlife7427
@dlife7427 Жыл бұрын
@@MrNorthphoenix well glad your doing better my friend. One day at a time brother! You got this
@lightisgreaterthandarkness
@lightisgreaterthandarkness 2 жыл бұрын
Suboxone never really "satisfied" my brain's need for opioids because of its partial agonism traits. METHADONE on the other hand is ALREADY putting me in positive recovery after only 2 DAYS on it! I have already dropped 50-60% of my illicit fentanyl use and I see me dropping it all as soon as I am able to move up in dosage. Methadone is a lifesaver! I never thought I'd be able to get off other opioids so this is all new to me.
@cjgames4378
@cjgames4378 2 жыл бұрын
I had to be on methadone for several years before I could swap to suboxone for the same reasons, but when I finally got on subs and was ready my life improved by leaps and bounds! My income tripled, own property, married, with a stable bank account with emergency fund, suboxone made this possible with a little want to
@Mustang1984
@Mustang1984 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I've been on Methadone for 13 years. I want to try to switch over to Suboxone but if what you're saying is right, I probably wouldn't like it. Anyway, I'm glad it has helped u and I wish you good luck with your recovery!
@chaoticatmos1461
@chaoticatmos1461 Жыл бұрын
@@Mustang1984 you can always switch back to the methadone if it doesn't work out or if you don't like it. Just sayin'.
@nikicarrie4071
@nikicarrie4071 Жыл бұрын
​@@cjgames4378 why ? What was the difference
@ErrorlVlacro
@ErrorlVlacro Жыл бұрын
Switching from MD to Suboxone is not easy and can’t be rushed though so please do it safely whoever may try.
@lmb8243
@lmb8243 Жыл бұрын
I did the methadone route. I got up to 250 mg a day, ended up tapering and stopping at 4mg three years after starting it. That was a miserable first month but now I'm over 3 years off methadone and going on 7 years off heroin. I don't believe methadone should be the first option, but it's still better than getting street drugs.
@Clay_j_Bray
@Clay_j_Bray Жыл бұрын
I can't believe this man actually said he doesn't hear people saying it's hard to get off methadone.... Because I personally ALWAYS hear about it. ANYONE who's been on it for over 6months is going to have to take at least another 6months or more to slowly reduce the dosage. And will probably relapse along the way because we want to rush... I could go on but I'm just shocked to hear a supposed professional in this field say he never heard it's hard to come off methadone..... personally I don't know 1 person who said it WASN'T hard
@jrambo7495
@jrambo7495 Жыл бұрын
Help! I want off of it too! If I try to taper, even just 5 milligrams, my dose won't last 24 hours. I want off of this ,it's like being in prison.
@glockdude5472
@glockdude5472 Жыл бұрын
@@jrambo7495there’s no real way to wean without feeling withdrawal. You have to wean very very slowly over s long period of time. Take the pills whole so it doesn’t mess up the time release.
@JungleSchoolInTheJ
@JungleSchoolInTheJ Жыл бұрын
How to come off methadone
@Readybear77
@Readybear77 Жыл бұрын
@@jrambo7495 I feel ya bro I'm the exact same been on methadone for about 20 years I found it easy at 1st to tapper but now I'm moving up 5ml every 6 month because my system gets use to it quick I'm on 100ml at the moment I use to worry bout it bro I'm 46 now I give up if I need to be put up so I feel fine then so be it I'm sick of worrying about it how many ml are you on ?
@khaoticgrumpy
@khaoticgrumpy Жыл бұрын
Since starting methadone I haven’t relapsed and 100% am able to participate in all daily life activities that I couldn’t in active addiction. Only times I’ve messed up is when I stoped taking methadone
@patricenagel9442
@patricenagel9442 Жыл бұрын
I've never been high on Methadone, and I did try ONCE. My boyfriend at the time gave me enough for a week, well I took all of it. I was so sick I wanted to die. But it certainly didn't get me high. At my clinic we can take Benzo as look as we are prescribed it. During COVID, I had monthly take home, In Feb they cut us all down to 2 weeks take homes, which isn't too bad. If I go on vacation I get exceptions. I have been on Methadone since Feb 1, 2001, and I stopped Heroin for good on July 2, 2002. My highest dose was 165mg. When I got to be 65 years old I cut down to 130mg. My dose is perfect for me, I have mental health issues and I take an anti depressent, and I take 1 Klonopin a day for my panic disorder. I don't consider Methadone liquid handcuffs, and I am a lifer, yes I get grief from people, but I ignore them. This is what I do to stay clean
@angelategos7217
@angelategos7217 4 ай бұрын
good for you! keep it up! methadone is fantastic and not obsessing over pills has completely turned my life around!
@patricenagel9442
@patricenagel9442 4 ай бұрын
@@angelategos7217 You too.. It's a lifesaver, without it, I doubt I would be alive today. I am glass you're doing good on it too. It feels so good to wake up every morning and not being sick. Not worrying about where the next one is coming from. Keep it up too💜💜
@markazinker3212
@markazinker3212 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been on suboxone for 12 years and it turned my life around , yes it’s going to be tough to get off of but I know it won’t be as bad as heroin, oxy, ect, and I can take it as long as doctor allows. I have a disease and am being treated for it with suboxone and insurance pays mostly, I’m in way better shape than looking for pills on the street , withdrawing every other week , a miserable life , this channel is extremely informative, can’t believe I never saw it before
@colinclement2752
@colinclement2752 2 жыл бұрын
Go down to the smallest dose u can...I did a cold turkey off 20 mg...I would equate it to 70% of a full agonist detox but it lasts a fuck of a lot longer
@AV-sq3jb
@AV-sq3jb 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to say but subotex it's ten times harder to kick than heroin
@markazinker3212
@markazinker3212 2 жыл бұрын
@@AV-sq3jb I’m sure u are correct, I was trying to psych myself out
@mellopez1859
@mellopez1859 Жыл бұрын
@@AV-sq3jb it's mostly the mindf..k I can deal with pain , but no sleep and anxiety plus the craving is unbelievable
@jadensawyer3284
@jadensawyer3284 Жыл бұрын
@@mellopez1859 man same here I’m currently detoxing from suboxone and I’m on day 3. Sucks to think about how long this will last
@brandonratcliff3065
@brandonratcliff3065 Жыл бұрын
I was on methadone for 22yrs, its a hard kick even at low doses... Everything thing i hear you saying is spot on. I generally dont like getting advice from someone who hasn't been there, but after watching many of your videos now you are the truth Dr.B
@chrisharding5447
@chrisharding5447 Жыл бұрын
Here, here. 25+ yrs here, it'll kill me, but as an addict I can't get pain relief for spinal injury. It's all I got..
@evolveausevolveaus
@evolveausevolveaus Жыл бұрын
@@chrisharding5447 yer around 15 years this time round, been on and off methadone for around 30 years.
@markmansfieldsbwc4674
@markmansfieldsbwc4674 8 ай бұрын
How low of a dose are you talking about kicking from?
@brandonratcliff3065
@brandonratcliff3065 8 ай бұрын
@@markmansfieldsbwc4674 i quite at about 8mgs..it would have benefited me to go lower but it just wasn't in the cards.
@dotesondots
@dotesondots Жыл бұрын
I had a friend who started using street drugs at an early age. She started taking Methadone and I met her after she got off it. I had been prescribed methadone and she warned me that getting off of methadone was extremely hard. She told me it took her a year to two years of being sick before she started feeling better. I agree with you that getting off of Methadone is very, very difficult. When I started tapering off Methadone, it was horrible! I was miserable but I did it. My new doctor started me on a low dose of Buprenorphine and I feel well with it. I am still taking a very low dose of Buprenorphine. I have been sober from both alcohol and drugs for 8 years. I want to get off the Buprenorphine and wish that I didn't have to take antidepressants or a very low dose of a benzo but I have dual diagnosis with PTSD. Thank you for the valuable information. Edit: sentence
@crazyhandgrows6432
@crazyhandgrows6432 Жыл бұрын
I have had a pretty good experience with methadone. I was able to KNOW I could go get something that helps me not withdraw and try to start getting a routine again. I would just lay around all day waiting on my guy to meet up with his connect feeling sick and lethargic. It was a every day hustle since I wasn't working a few months before starting methadone. Highest mg I've been was 84mg and I'm at 58 now, I've been going down 4mg every month or every other month (Thankfully, I've been good and only have to go once a month now). I'd really like to get off eventually, but just going at my own pace. I hope it can continue to help, because I've seen so many different classes of people and know addiction can affect anyone. Much love to those struggling. If you really want help, you're going to have to do it yourself first.
@darcyrosewilson
@darcyrosewilson Жыл бұрын
Methadone saved my life. I have been on methadone on and off for 17 years. I've been on this program since 2-2016. It definitely helped me change my life around. I got a job, a car and an apartment because of a program I follow daily and the methadone medication. I am so thankful 🙏
@patricenagel9442
@patricenagel9442 4 ай бұрын
Congradulations, I started Methadone in Feb 2001, I got clean from dope on July 1, 2002. I go to the clinic once a month, and my life is great. I knew Methadone was going to be a life long commitment because I started at 46 years old. I am 69 now. Keep up the good work💜
@raymondstemmer887
@raymondstemmer887 Жыл бұрын
I'm 65 and have been on methadone for 33 years I find it almost impossible to get off but that's OK. I only go to the clinic once every two weeks
@constant606
@constant606 9 ай бұрын
Shake hands,me too,now back on 20 mg,brrrr
@jakespencer431
@jakespencer431 8 ай бұрын
How long you been on man? Mines 12 years on 105mg now on 30
@jmr6117
@jmr6117 5 ай бұрын
Listen you have to take your time to low your dose i was in methadone for 19 years i drop 1 mg a week and was brutal the whitdraws then i take the jump at 5 mg and my good Lord almost to years later i still feel like shit, super tired ,can't sleep well ,chills, diarrheas, but not everybody will be like that depend your dose ,forlong you are on it your age and health i am in the 50s so take your time ok.
@ConorKhabibBrunson
@ConorKhabibBrunson 2 ай бұрын
Bro u been on this longer than I’ve been alive omg
@TheRealOman
@TheRealOman 4 жыл бұрын
Dr B , Drs like you are so hard to find. I've been blessed with a Dr like you and there is no doubt the good Lord has annointed you to help people. You are a good man and have helped so many including me, God Bless you sir, you are amazing. Thank you so much
@nicholaslitrento4043
@nicholaslitrento4043 2 жыл бұрын
me too brother amen God bless you and to be honest I didn't look at your name so apologies if I misgendered
@mellopez1859
@mellopez1859 Жыл бұрын
Too bad he is only in Cali , be nice to find a duplicate of this Dr ,, he feels for his patients , most Drs will let u actually die ....
@amodernalchemist432
@amodernalchemist432 Жыл бұрын
The good lord!? There is no such thing as a *"good lord!!"*
@kelliborden249
@kelliborden249 Жыл бұрын
@amodernalchemist578, OK KAREN, THANKS FOR THE EDUCATION. DO YOU ALWAYS FEEL THE NEED TO CORRECT PEOPLE ALL THE TIME? IF SO THATS A BIG SOCIAL PROBLEM FOR YOU!!
@amodernalchemist432
@amodernalchemist432 Жыл бұрын
@@kelliborden249oh, and you're one to talk about social problems? Little miss all caps scream typer...triggered much!? That's a perfect example of a having *social problem!* Go take a xanax ffs and you call me Karen? Go look up the definition of a Karen and you'll find a portrait of yourself!
@JUANITAMcNEIL-dd1cp
@JUANITAMcNEIL-dd1cp Жыл бұрын
So agree with this Dr. I'm currently on methadone, I tried suboxone and was the 1% that went back to methadone because the subixone just wasn't doing it for me at all. I gave it a good 2 weeks and begged to go back to methadone. I've 49 years old been on methadone over 20 years. If your ready for change it does work. It has completely helped with keeping me stable to do the work needed to change my life around. Thanks for the ininformation you've put forth . It has been life saving in my case.
@andrewmays1057
@andrewmays1057 4 жыл бұрын
220mg daily methadone user. 160/60 split due to metabolic and bad liver function. 35 year old male. 20 year addiction. I tried Suboxone when they had the swords in the pill way back when. Not sure if I wasnt ready to get off back then but Methadone has worked far better. I already know I will be a lifer on Methadone but video did seem a little bias. I honestly dont mind if an addict uses Suboxone or Methadone as long as hes off hard opiates.
@gristamshackleford2102
@gristamshackleford2102 2 жыл бұрын
youre a mage?
@andrewmays1057
@andrewmays1057 2 жыл бұрын
@@gristamshackleford2102 yup mage... lol *male duh
@jmr6117
@jmr6117 2 жыл бұрын
35 years 20 year in drugs 🤣🤣🤣 yea right !
@andrewmays1057
@andrewmays1057 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmr6117 started at 15? Math is hard lol
@JJoiner
@JJoiner 9 ай бұрын
​@jmr6117 you're an idiot,for a better lack of words.
@michaelcain575
@michaelcain575 3 жыл бұрын
I take methadone and no he is wrong about the euphoria. If your on a maintenance dose you won’t feel high at all. Your body just gets used to it. I’m on methadone maintenance, so I know first hand. I’m on 100mgs and I’m totally fine everyday. Has def helped me stay away from heroin/fentanyl. Saved my life. I almost died like twice. Woke up in the icu one time. It’s no joke
@troypollonais9143
@troypollonais9143 Жыл бұрын
100 mgs is still a high dose. Try your best to reduce 5 milligrams every 6 months until you get to 25 mgs daily
@OGbobbyKUSH
@OGbobbyKUSH Жыл бұрын
For me it’s not hard cutting my dose I’m prescribed 125 but routinely take less than half, I take 1 dose and stretch it 3 days. I think when you get down to less than 20-15 mg is when it gets harder.
@evolveausevolveaus
@evolveausevolveaus Жыл бұрын
Dr D, ive been on and off methadone for 30 years, currently 13 years. Highest dose 190, sat on 140 for a long time, reduced to 35 but felt uncomfortable, back up at 80 and feeling good again. Thanks doc
@AV-sq3jb
@AV-sq3jb 11 ай бұрын
What a life thank God i beat this Denon ,17 months clean its possible
@TommyGunn-gq3ub
@TommyGunn-gq3ub 4 жыл бұрын
When a person says getting off Subs was a Nightmare, my initial thought Is always ,"This person never slammed dope"( metaphorically speaking) My concise ,non-medical opinion from Experience- My time on Suboxen- Life Improved , No Cravings , Stayed Clean My time on Methadone - Felt Guilty, Relapsed constantly , Nodded out on the toilet at my Gf's apt ( and never even notice it!!!!!) Conclusion ; I don't care what anyone says, but getting off Methadone is Hell compared to getting off Subs. Getting off Suboxen was a cakewalk; and in my experience 15 times easier than getting of Methadone Another Great One Doc! I honestly think You see the best Assisted Treatment Doctor In the country. Take care !
@DrBAddictionRecovery
@DrBAddictionRecovery 4 жыл бұрын
RAPH MATIC Hi Raph. You nailed it and I agree. As for the compliment, I agree but I’m delusional😁🙏. Thanks for support, means so much.
@hoosierdaddy2308
@hoosierdaddy2308 4 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY. I thought I'd die trying to get off methadone. Nodded out constantly. No euphoria with suboxone, no horrible withdrawel ( although it's tough if you rub out ) like with methadone. Suboxone is so easy to get off of compared to methadone..
@no-kap805
@no-kap805 4 жыл бұрын
Im glad I went the suboxone route I only went on 2mg I just wanted help with cravings don’t plan on going higher than 2 mg and only plan on being on for a year don’t wanna be dependent on it for long it’s all mental really people wanna stay on methadone and suboxone for years because they aren’t ready to give up being dependent on something but it’s possible you just got too be mentally strong
@hoosierdaddy2308
@hoosierdaddy2308 4 жыл бұрын
Agree. Metbadone was hell for me until subs
@TommyGunn-gq3ub
@TommyGunn-gq3ub 3 жыл бұрын
@@craiglyles4755 honestly I'm baffled about the misinformation on the internet concerning sub withdrawal. Like any withdrawal, if you're not doing anything but focusing on it , yeah you're gonna get depressed. My best suggestion is find ways to make yourself happy again. If you've managed to get off any opiates and you're not using other drugs, that in itself should feel like a major accomplishment , and you should be proud of yourself. If you're really struggling go see a professional or a psychiatrist, but don't look for answers on the internet. If you've been hooked on opiates for along time, the initial thought of cessation or permanent abstinence can be scary as hell, but if you look keep your eye on the big picture , you've just managed to get your life back , and that in itself kept me motivated for awhile. I can't answer that question for you. Everybody's experience is different. I remember when I was going into sub withdrawal and I did my research on suboxen withdrawal on the internet ; it kinda freaked me out. But looking back in retrospect it was honestly mostly based on ' FEAR' and ' LIES'. That's why I like dr b's channel. I can't Answer that question for you. All I have is my experience. But I guarantee DR B has a more conclusive answer. I will say one thing. I F$@$8ing slept the entire time. That was unheard of for me in any opiate withdrawal. I'll leave it at that. Why would it be unbearable? It wasn't for me. Sounds like you're already making yourself feel unbearable before you've accepted that you did something that only makes you stronger unless you're not ready
@sspecmedia
@sspecmedia Жыл бұрын
Hey Dr B! I just found your channel and am so happy. I was your patient for over 4 years. I had been wondering how you're doing. Anyways, I love all your content! Please keep it up as your knowledge on opioid & Benzo addiction and recovery is Top tier! Take Care - Richard Taylor
@Jay73.69
@Jay73.69 Жыл бұрын
Being Addicted Is Just Like Groundhogs Day. Nice way to describe it.
@Bejitajap
@Bejitajap 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to provide amazing, un-biased information regarding these opiates. I just stumbled upon you after a quick youtube search, and I'm glad I did. Take care doctor!
@markdavenport17
@markdavenport17 Жыл бұрын
Methadone seriously saved my life. I went from that to Suboxone. But coming off of methadone was the hardest thing I think I've ever done. I was sick for so so long! That's the issue and I even came down as doctor recommended. I came down a couple milligrams a week something like that. I was on 140 a day for about 18 years. And it was a rough road. Thank God I wasn't using when all this nasty stuff is out here fentanyl and the stuff that eat your body up. But methadone really does work truly.
@creasybear1698
@creasybear1698 Жыл бұрын
are you off now?
@sepperD3
@sepperD3 Жыл бұрын
Me to I kicked for a solid 28 days and was miserable the kick from Suboxone was waaaay easier
@paulcheshire7794
@paulcheshire7794 2 жыл бұрын
I have detoxed on both methadone and Subutex also Suboxone. I totally agree that Methadone is alot harder to come of than the Subutex and Suboxone. Love from UK.Great channel.💯👍🏼🙏🏽🙏🥊☮️❤️
@daviddowns7552
@daviddowns7552 Жыл бұрын
congratulations.
@jzblue345
@jzblue345 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's definitely tough to get off but I'd rather be on methadone than heroin or fentanyl. I know methadone won't ever kill me at my dose.
@philipsmi-lenguyen8155
@philipsmi-lenguyen8155 Жыл бұрын
Detoxing off subz much easier. Only took me a week. Haven't tried detox from the dome yet tho.
@TiffanyNicole81
@TiffanyNicole81 Жыл бұрын
@@philipsmi-lenguyen8155 God bless you when you do. It took me 31 days to hold down anything solid.
@Hamromerochannel
@Hamromerochannel 7 ай бұрын
How long does it take from methadone (20 mg a day) to Subutex?
@Mustang1984
@Mustang1984 Жыл бұрын
You did a wonderful job explaining all of this. I've been on Methadone for about 12 years and yes it has saved my life. Haven't been in trouble with the law since I got on it. I would love to dose down and get off eventually but I'm worried about the withdraws.
@BrandyinIndy
@BrandyinIndy Жыл бұрын
Don't rush your recovery 🙏
@Mustang1984
@Mustang1984 Жыл бұрын
@@BrandyinIndy Yeah I won't and thanks for the comment! :)
@BrandyinIndy
@BrandyinIndy Жыл бұрын
@@Mustang1984 I share this because it took me years to learn. It felt as soon as I was stable, my family pressured me to get off the meds and I relapsed every time. I finally just decided my recovery was between me and God. Best of luck to you and I'm proud of you. Thank you for sharing.
@Mustang1984
@Mustang1984 Жыл бұрын
@@BrandyinIndy Thank you and God bless you as well!🙏
@orlandogivens4779
@orlandogivens4779 8 ай бұрын
The longer you stay on the meth the longer it stays in the BODY...So tell you what in order to understand the reality of the best way to get off it would have to be done while your not aware of the drop in your dosage...So tell them to slowly drop you off and NOT let YOU know how MUCH until you achieve a platform of which has removed you from the situation without your knowledge...And to understand the reality of the mental infection of knowing is if you are not aware of the move you will never feel a THING.... Been there done that...
@Discovering_Nicole1
@Discovering_Nicole1 4 жыл бұрын
Great Question! I am glad you are discussing this!!!
@delanoferrer3181
@delanoferrer3181 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@ponzo1967
@ponzo1967 Жыл бұрын
Methadone is a beast to withdrawal from. Suboxone is tricky because cutting down isn't horrible but those last couple mg's are extremely brutal.
@tylerd1297
@tylerd1297 8 ай бұрын
Especially since your primary means of relief through a doctor (Suboxone) will make you sick as sht if you try to take it anywhere before 3 days of withdrawal. Kratom probably won't even touch that either
@robbieedmonds572
@robbieedmonds572 Жыл бұрын
As a patient who has started being prescribed painkillers at age 11 to 18. I have been on both methadone and suboxone. While on suboxone I relapsed many times and even resorted to drinking alcohol. That's not to say suboxone doesn't work. In many cases it does work. However, in people who have been on stronger painkillers at higher doses for a longer time, Methadone has been better. Since I've been on methadone I have stopped using everything including recreational thc here and there. Since I stopped all drug use I now get 2 weeks supply of Methadone. So with some people Methadone works a lot better. It really is a matter of regulations. Most people don't know that in some countries, heroin replacement theorophy is used. So it has everything to do with the culture.
@DrBAddictionRecovery
@DrBAddictionRecovery Жыл бұрын
Agree on every point and thank you for input. You seem to be doing great
@gregoryhawsjr3479
@gregoryhawsjr3479 Жыл бұрын
@@DrBAddictionRecovery I am on Suboxone. I was am in a treatment program. And I see the dr and the councilor monthly. I like to smoke pot. For 8 years my quarterly drug test is always negative and the medication that is prescribed is in my system at the right level, however recently my dr been on me about thc. It was never a issue for 8-9 years. And now my state is recreational. I just tested positive for thc and she’s warning me about the contract I signed for treatment. Litterally a decade ago. I don’t want to get thrown out. But thc got me away from benzodiazepines. Did a law change or is it my dr
@JDtimesten
@JDtimesten Жыл бұрын
Yeah-I started heroin as a teen. Methadone has had me living a normal life, out of the streets for about 20 years now. I do take a celexa and a klonopin a day, too. This combo has kept me on the straight and narrow for as I said, almost half of my life now.
@michaeldefiore8477
@michaeldefiore8477 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree it’s not trading one addiction for another by going on a medication like Suboxone or methadone I’ve seen people get there life back from getting in to treatment with these medications I’ve also seen where people say they prefer Suboxone over methadone because methadone made them use more or want to use
@Lisasanti1
@Lisasanti1 4 жыл бұрын
I was on Methadone for years for MS pain. I got monthly scripts from my pain management doctor. I had to switch back to Morphine and Oxycodone after repeated EKGs. Even with high doses of both, I still had horrible withdrawal. Great video, Dr. B!
@DrBAddictionRecovery
@DrBAddictionRecovery 4 жыл бұрын
Li’Maren Kudaibergen thanks for sharing. I have an MS patient on subs.
@Lisasanti1
@Lisasanti1 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. B Addiction Recovery, I’m on Suboxone now.
@Lisasanti1
@Lisasanti1 4 жыл бұрын
Methadone for me was horrid. Or my dose was too high. For about 3 years, I just drifted through life, sleeping all the time. I think I was on 90mgs. I’m on Suboxone now, and I don’t have any side effects. It just helps with the pain.
@DrBAddictionRecovery
@DrBAddictionRecovery 4 жыл бұрын
Li’Maren Kudaibergen perfect
@DrBAddictionRecovery
@DrBAddictionRecovery 4 жыл бұрын
Li’Maren Kudaibergen perfect
@seanmac420
@seanmac420 Жыл бұрын
I been stuck at 8mg of suboxone for years now without being able to lower my dose but still better then using oxycodone and heroin
@Skinny_Karlos
@Skinny_Karlos Жыл бұрын
I've been on methadone, in Australia, for a quarter of a century now and these 'liquid handcuffs' aren't going to release me any time soon. The withdrawals, even when slowly decreasing one's dose, is quite noticeable and difficult to deal with. It's kept me as I am, addicted to methadone and I can't see any end in sight to the situation. The only good thing about the stuff is that I don't have to chase a dollar then a dealer, rather I pick up twice a week and get my takeaways for the other days. It could be worse, but I really wish that I had the inner fortitude to have withdrawn from the gear (heroin) and stayed clean, but after many years of trying to do just that prior to going on m'done I failed every time so as I said, things could be worse. At least in Australia, where I am just north of Sydney, we're treated as patients at a Pharmacy and doctor's surgery rather than 'junkies' as is so often the case in other countries such as the U.S. At least that's the experience that I have. Things could always be worse.
@sepperD3
@sepperD3 Жыл бұрын
I went from methadone to Suboxone and it was so much better and you can take it 24 hrs after last methadone dose you just can take methadone after Suboxone or you'll wish you was dead
@stringlarson1247
@stringlarson1247 Жыл бұрын
Good on ya mate. (Did I say that right?) :) I tried that route 5x back in the 90s but didn't want to up my dose, so I kept using H on top of it. Ended up doing a hard detox in rehab. They gave clonadine BP medication, if I remember correctly. 3 weeks of hell before I felt normal. Anyway, I was talking with someone the other day, and thinking how horrible it would be these days trying to cop on the street and having no idea if there was fentynal in it, or worse, tranq. Fknell, what a nightmare. It was bad enough 20+ yrs. ago chasing around some of the lovely hoods in Chicago. Hell, I don't even know if one can find 'just" H out there. Well, at least you don't have to worry about that. And you're treated like a human being. Not here. It's all pretty shady feeling. Take homes are limited to Sunday until one has gone through the process of showing up every morning early within a narrow timeframe. At least we're still around.
@Skinny_Karlos
@Skinny_Karlos Жыл бұрын
@@stringlarson1247 You're right in your last sentence. "At least you're still around" - But, though I have no personal love for the U.S. I feel for you, and can't believe that the same people who bring this evil situation down still claim a Christian piety, All the best, (Truly, be as well as you can be,) Mark.
@Skinny_Karlos
@Skinny_Karlos Жыл бұрын
@@stringlarson1247 I'm writing a second reply as I feel the first was a tad short. No, I haven't tried Clonidine but YES you got the "Good on yer mate". I think most of us still come out with that one regularly haha. I genuinely hope that you can find a system with which you can live, like a person, there and not an animal under arrest, always waiting for the hammer to drop. I truly think that the old days are gone and unless it's prescribed and 'forever available' it's not right to get addicted - If you know what I mean. Be well and happy. All the best - - Mark.
@OGbobbyKUSH
@OGbobbyKUSH Жыл бұрын
Many people don’t understand heroin is WAY easier to come off of then any opioid. The first time I detoxed in jail was of opioids and it was complete hell for 2 weeks and over a month before I felt somewhat better. The second time in jail I was only detoxing from just heroin and I was eating by the 4th day and felt “normal” around the 2 week mark! If I had to detox cold turkey today I would switch to heroin for a couple months then detox that.
@taylerrenee9710
@taylerrenee9710 Жыл бұрын
I was at 165mgs at my highest methadone dose and as of right now I’m at 6mgs!!!! Started December 2017, it’s been quite the journey!
@neilmoore5387
@neilmoore5387 Жыл бұрын
Well done. 6 mg. You can stop that in a few days. I went into detox in Manchester as I was on 40mg and Oramorph, zomorphs, the lot. Anyway day one 40mg then 30-22-18-12-10-8-6-4-2. Last dose got Covid. Stayed in an extra week so 4 instead of 3. When you get down to six they give you summat else , in U.K. anyway if that’s where you’re from? It’s called Clonidine. It’s not an opiate but helps with opioid and alcohol withdrawals. Take that for about 7-10 days and they taper you off that. I still felt a bit shit but this was last May and not touched the shit since. Have been doing benzos and tramadol and zopiclone still but that’s for another day. Keep going but you can piss it getting off 6mg love. You’re there almost but it’s the anxiety of being “ normal” again with me that was my fear. I didn’t know any different for 34 years since I started smoking hash at 13 and trips at 15 , then the dance scene 89-94 then gear , Meth and so on.
@livvyscott8549
@livvyscott8549 Жыл бұрын
Congrats!! Are you off it yet? 95mg was my highest. Currently at 21mg and tapering.
@neilmoore5387
@neilmoore5387 Жыл бұрын
@@livvyscott8549 Thank you. Yes been off a year. Last May. Ten day detox and 3 weeks at Chapman Barker Unit in Manchester. From 40mg then drops each day to 30-22-18-12-10-8-6-4-2. So a ten day detox but was also smashing street Oramorph and zomorphs. Pregabs and zopiclone. Get a script for diazepam and stopping on that. You could smash that 21 in a week easily. I was the shit for 28 years with odd break here and there and a go on subutex but I abused them and ended up snorting 16-20 mg a day. As I say you’ll piss 21mg in 10 days. They give you Clonidine for last 6 mg or so and continue for a week just to prevent any residual withdrawals. Took months to feel right and still take zopiclone as I love the things but only at night. All the best and keep me posted please. You’ll do it.
@Lion_Hamza
@Lion_Hamza Жыл бұрын
@@livvyscott8549My highest was one day 1050mg. Than i went down till 150mg. Atm im at 110mg. My goal is to reach 60mg.
@jahraizer250
@jahraizer250 Жыл бұрын
Sick brother! 120 down to 30
@tylerjablonski2491
@tylerjablonski2491 Жыл бұрын
The orange strips help so much with my overall anxiety in general. Just to be able to go do daily errands without this burden of anxiety is great.
@ameliashostak4764
@ameliashostak4764 Жыл бұрын
Suboxone SAVED MY LIFE!! Plain and simple. I was spiraling down in a pit of despair, depression, and addiction. I cannot even begin to tell you the horrible things I did to make that withdrawal go away, I was doctor shopping, ER shopping, among other things and life was looking pretty bleak for me, and I knew this situation wasn't sustainable, yet no matter how badly I wanted to stop, I just could NOT deal with the withdrawal. I was thrown a life raft when I was given a prescription for Suboxone. A LOT of people give me grief and say I just traded one drug for another, and that may be true, but Subs have undeniably given me my life back! I've been taking them for about 7 years and my doctor has given me full control of how and when I dose down. I'm on such a small dose now, and who knows, I may stay there for another 7 years, but it's MY choice! This is MY journey to take, and right now it's working for me and my family!
@robertbenge3156
@robertbenge3156 Жыл бұрын
I been on Suboxone for a long time it saved my life also
@Mckenna12502
@Mckenna12502 Жыл бұрын
And that's all that matters you and your family..You didn't trade one for another you probably saved your life wishing you the best stay strong and blessings to you and your family..
@ameliashostak4764
@ameliashostak4764 Жыл бұрын
@@Mckenna12502 That is such a wonderful thing to say, thank you so much, it really does mean a lot to hear. I AM living my best life NOW.
@TheRealOman
@TheRealOman 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus and Methadone saved my life
@peternorthrup6274
@peternorthrup6274 4 жыл бұрын
Why are you not taking suboxon???
@TheRealOman
@TheRealOman 4 жыл бұрын
@@peternorthrup6274 it gave me horrible anxiety
@TheRealOman
@TheRealOman 4 жыл бұрын
@@peternorthrup6274 that stuff made me feel so horrible. I've tried it 3 times.
@deborajh0917
@deborajh0917 3 жыл бұрын
They are saving mine. ❤❤
@manicmurph
@manicmurph 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealOman you sure you didn't take it too early and weren't in acute withdrawal from it?
@jamz2022
@jamz2022 2 жыл бұрын
Iv got alot of personal experience with heroine and methadone and suboxin And Evrything this guys saying about it is absolutely true 🙏
@jennifermasters7403
@jennifermasters7403 2 жыл бұрын
Methadone and treatment for my anxiety and mental issues has me at 10 and a half months clean
@MitchBast-xu7jg
@MitchBast-xu7jg Жыл бұрын
Started methadone treatment 9 years ago. It's has saved my life . Started out at 140mgs. I am now at 4 mgs. I'll be tapering out of the program within a year. Gratitude. Infinite Gratitude
@Oakleaf700
@Oakleaf700 3 жыл бұрын
Oh in UK,Methadone is renowned as the *worst* opioid to come off from {after a long time on it} Buprenorphine is considered *easy* by comparison.
@hughgilbert9276
@hughgilbert9276 2 жыл бұрын
I was on Methadone for a long time and it is hard and rough to get off of methadone and to me it was more addicted cause I just wanted more and more lucky I was getting my from my Dr. I was taking the pills methadone. Thanks for the video Dr.B love your teaching
@shelley8461
@shelley8461 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all the info. I just started suboxone for chronic back pain today and I'm hoping for the best. You really seem like a great truly caring Dr.
@user-cm6qg4lj3n
@user-cm6qg4lj3n 2 жыл бұрын
hi..i just want to ask you how ur pain is now and if you feel that Suboxin is Really a pain relief for you...as im being introduced to it myself. pls and ty
@shelley8461
@shelley8461 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-cm6qg4lj3n It's helped me alot, it replaced both main meds of morphine for round the clock pain and oxycodone for breakthrough pain)But they had to keep upping the dose to get it right, I'm on zubsolv 5.7mg. 3/day ( but I break them in half so I can take it every 4 hrs. 6/day) zubsolv is the same med but in tablet that doesn't taste as bad as the suboxone. I hope that helps z nd hope it works out for you. May the Lord Jesus bless you and keep you and yours.
@user-cm6qg4lj3n
@user-cm6qg4lj3n 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelley8461 Bless you..ty so much for responding. Very helpful. Ty
@shelley8461
@shelley8461 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-cm6qg4lj3n Your very welcome 🤗
@ultramindcontrolrealzz8367
@ultramindcontrolrealzz8367 Жыл бұрын
Run from it take kratom instead
@jefflewis4126
@jefflewis4126 Жыл бұрын
I'm a recovering addict and have almost 2 years clean, and I'm currently on 1 suboxone film a day, but really it's all just trading 1 drug for another, because now I'm a slave to my suboxone every day, I'm trying to wean myself off completely now
@ThreePhaseHigh
@ThreePhaseHigh Жыл бұрын
I have been on Suboxone for nearly 15 years and I started at 10 mg . I’m now at 2 mg films under the tongue twice a day. The only problem I have is staying awake. You can’t sit down or drive or do anything without falling asleep. Except when you want to asleep, it’s next to impossible, so how can I get off the stuff? Excellent video just the same. It has made me change my plans completely. I hope for the better. Thanks for sharing this information.
@serenityfreedom3096
@serenityfreedom3096 2 жыл бұрын
Thx doc. You deliver the whole story concisely.
@mr.mcpurrz3143
@mr.mcpurrz3143 Жыл бұрын
Clean 4 years thanks to methadone. It's so so worth the time to build your dose to the theraputic level. Truly my prayers were answered with this treatment.
@melissacunningham2524
@melissacunningham2524 4 жыл бұрын
Dr b ,always giving the straight facts.
@DrBAddictionRecovery
@DrBAddictionRecovery 4 жыл бұрын
Melissa Cunningham thank you for supporting us M
@CarolMobley04
@CarolMobley04 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great video and very insightful. My only complaint with Suboxone is the expense. Even the generic is so expensive. It has however absolutely saved my life so it’s definitely worth it. Thank you Dr B
@markazinker3212
@markazinker3212 Жыл бұрын
Same here !!
@neilmoore5387
@neilmoore5387 Жыл бұрын
Fortunately in the U.K. we’ve got the national health service. Don’t pay for any drugs , well we do because we pay national insurance. Smallish amount though. They are absolute stars NHS workers. Saved me from very close death when I’d had pneumonia then forgot 4 days. Couldn’t walk , hold things. My wife ( now separated) just thought I was off my nut on tablets. She usually just threw cold water over me and I’d come round but I didn’t. Got blue lighted to hospital and it was Sepsis. I was intubated in resus O2 saturations down in my boots at 51%. Don’t know how my brain wasn’t effected. Well I am very forgetful. Put me in an induced coma , then a paralysing drug so Couldn’t try and pull the tube out. Then a tracheostomy. A month in intensive care and 2 weeks on a respiratory ward. They were outstanding. Anyway sorry to bang on!
@analogueoverdigital929
@analogueoverdigital929 Жыл бұрын
​@neilmoore5387 ehh I've heard some opposing views when it comes to your health care system. Simple procedures can take months or even a year. Huge waiting periods. The USA is definetly a broken system as well, but the NIH is not perfect either. Not to mention they are bleeding money because it's free, and that's basically why your taxes are like 70 plus percent.
@neilmoore5387
@neilmoore5387 Жыл бұрын
@@analogueoverdigital929 I don’t pay tax pal I’m a lazy bastard on the dole. No I had to retire due to medical reasons in 2019. They’ve been life savers for me and not cost me a penny apart from when I used to pay National Insurance. A night in intensive care works out at about £1900 a full day what with one / two to one nursing. All staff that include EN and T. Speech and Language. Assistants. Surgeon. Consultants. Drs. Registrars. Nurses , catering , radiographers. That’s before the drugs , care, it soon adds up. I was in 30 nights so you do the “math”s. Imagine having to fork that out. I only spoke out as I saw someone your side of pond pays so much for subbies. It may be a failed system but it does what it can and saves bare number of lives. Say for example you had to stay in intensive care for 5 days in USA and you’ve no insurance what would you’re bill be like? Ball park figure. Tax from here and your own country most of it goes on weapons.
@neilmoore5387
@neilmoore5387 Жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention the Anaesthetists , most important staff member there!
@rickbaldwinjr35
@rickbaldwinjr35 Жыл бұрын
Merah one saved my life. It allowed me to have enough stability to work and get my life together. That being said Very very hard to get off of. Stayed on 5 years came off slow. But still had no energy and over all felt like shit. Started taking suboxine which is much easier to trapper off
@Realfrenchie
@Realfrenchie Жыл бұрын
Here in Canada when you start a methadone traitement you have to take your dose daily in front of the methadone dispenser (pharmacist, nurse,etc ..) for the first 3 month. After the 3 months probation you get 1 privilege a week every month until max 6 privilege so you don't have to go every day at the clinic or pharmacy. But if you take metadol for pain they will serve you up to a week depending what your doctor decided...
@JhelleMies
@JhelleMies 6 ай бұрын
Its exactly same here in Finland, 3 months and then u get 1 bottle home, my treatment starts tomorrow im so damn scared
@Realfrenchie
@Realfrenchie 6 ай бұрын
@@JhelleMies Good decision, don't worry it will be alright. Maybe for the first couple of days you mignt need some ajustement of the dose but when you are on the right dose you will feel better with more energy. Good luck and be proud of yourself.
@CokoLanoix
@CokoLanoix 29 күн бұрын
Thanks! I watched your first video and it motivated me to change clinics so I could finally get a peak and trough done. Today was the day so I'm hoping the results prove I'm not well 24hrs a day.
@murkstalinskitm5334
@murkstalinskitm5334 4 жыл бұрын
You the man Dr. B. Thanks for everything you do🙏
@mreu4558
@mreu4558 Жыл бұрын
Great vid Dr. To you out there: THERE IS HOPE & HELP to get better! I was over 100mg day with methadone and was very resistant to switching to buprenorphine because of the stories like you mentioned. I ended up dropping 3mg/day to 30mg then jumped over from methadone to buprenorphine. Best thing I’ve done. I got my life & freedom back. My spinal pain, after 3 failed surgeries, is managed without being or feeling high at all. I have my sobriety and clean head with amazing memory now. And to any who really want it and apply effort; its yours also. ༄
@anthonyharder1469
@anthonyharder1469 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the breakdown dr. You are great at what you do sir
@tiborkoch7780
@tiborkoch7780 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos is very helpful! I start metadone 5 days ago. First 20 mg /day , working wery well but after 14 hours start my withdrawal. Now i start 30 mg/day.
@thehunterofdeath2180
@thehunterofdeath2180 3 жыл бұрын
I wish he was my doctor for my chronic pain 👍😎
@jhhyuu_DaveIsNoProfessor
@jhhyuu_DaveIsNoProfessor Жыл бұрын
It's amazing in 1940s, Germany, Chemists decided let's make a human "body-Ketone" with same chemical function but let's add 2 benzenes so it can land on a mu receptor and of course, a Morphine "Nucleus" in it as well too.
@jt1940jt
@jt1940jt Жыл бұрын
the problem with methadone in the U.S. is that they give the patient 100mg everyday , so when it's time to detox you have way too much in the body, and they detox people up to mg every 3 days. I've never met someone who truly was successful in getting off of methadone.
@markdavenport17
@markdavenport17 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video. You absolutely nailed it 100%. You know exactly what you're talking about you should run for president!!
@artvandelay48
@artvandelay48 Жыл бұрын
Been on methadone for 4 years and this was some really good information that I hadn’t known previously great video
@Scandalous319
@Scandalous319 Жыл бұрын
Been on methadone since 2006. Its 2023. I wont state my dose. But it's a lot more than normal. It has saved my life. Want to get off someday but scared.
@davidmathew603
@davidmathew603 Жыл бұрын
Im wearing the same shoes in that aspect. I hate it but yes it saved my life.
@marcuseviltree6304
@marcuseviltree6304 Жыл бұрын
I am day 12 cold turkey Went to clinic for 15 yrs 150 ml a day. Still feel it but day 5-6 are the worst. If u can take 2 weeks off will help w the worst of it. Good luck
@Hippy-wd3mw
@Hippy-wd3mw 10 ай бұрын
It saved my life too
@tyemaddog
@tyemaddog 3 жыл бұрын
I remember mentally it was so tough being on methadone. Not to mention the weight gain, the rediculous sweating, sleeping long hours. Made some changes with my Doc, life is way better. Be careful with this sh*t people. Life is beautiful
@rickdarula100
@rickdarula100 2 жыл бұрын
What changes did you make?
@ggsjunkjournaltime9784
@ggsjunkjournaltime9784 Жыл бұрын
Same i am 300 lb now from methadone on 12 years 80 mg and i hear of u only take 30 mg you might not gain weight bit i lost l l y lteeth all of them and got very week u e me To Walk
@billg7205
@billg7205 Жыл бұрын
@@ggsjunkjournaltime9784 Get on subs. They suck in comparison, but it's better being in the 150s versus 220s I was at. Going once a month is pretty good too if you don't smoke weed. I watched countless people start on methadone as skinny people, and gradually become huge. With methadone you feel good on it if you have enough, so it takes some drive to get down to 50mg or less. With subs you never really feel good, so it's easier to take less. You just feel good enough to get by. Methadone is basically impossible to get off of also. I tried dropping off at like 15, and had been at 25 or less for some time. Literally almost died. People die in jail from detox, but they don't let it out. Got on subs or I would have wanted to jump off a bridge after 10 day and hadn't even been able to remotely think about eating. Their test still showed positive for methadone. Subs are a lot easier to cut down and get off of.
@billg7205
@billg7205 Жыл бұрын
@@ggsjunkjournaltime9784 BTW I didn't have the issue of doing other stuff like some people do with methadone, but with subs it doesn't work well anyway so problem solved.
@analogueoverdigital929
@analogueoverdigital929 Жыл бұрын
I agree. The lower the dose the better. I had every side effect you mentioned when my dose was above 70 mgs. I'm at 60 now and feel great, and plan on getting off completely by 2024, by tapering 2mgs twice a month. Methadone is no joke, and when you finally jump off you need a plan.
@stephenflowers8516
@stephenflowers8516 2 жыл бұрын
I have had enough experience with Heroin, Morphine, Methadone to know they are all just as addictive as all major opiates. I personally don't believe Heroin is any more addictive than Opium Dilaudid etc. Some are more euphoric than others. That's about it.
@zakkthemaniac0329
@zakkthemaniac0329 2 жыл бұрын
Going to the clinic for about 2 yrs now and methadone saved my life and me for knowing I was going to die if I didn't do something about it. No craving or withdrawal. Now I do relate to the liquid handcuffs cause it does predict a lot you can't do when your on it. Now my clinic doesn't mind weed but a big one they don't like is benzos. And that isn't a good approach to it I agree on that.
@Dewy_88
@Dewy_88 Жыл бұрын
What state
@brettgreen853
@brettgreen853 8 ай бұрын
I have been on Methadone for 15 years now. From 07-16 My pain management doctor prescribed it for me for fibromyalgia, back pain, and bone pain where breaks didnt heal properly. My doctor lost his license due to an employee stealing script pads. Anyway i was fortunate enough that i had a brand new clinic near me my home in Reno. I have been on it ever since. Its allowed me to have a life. However i am sbout ready to try to see if my old doctor went back into practice. I cant do the clinic anymore. Thry only give a max of 2 weeks worth of take homes. I do livd the product. It has saved my life.
@DrBAddictionRecovery
@DrBAddictionRecovery 8 ай бұрын
Good luck
@brettgreen853
@brettgreen853 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, Dr........ Everyone including myself appreciate the time and effect you put into this content regarding our current or past state of being. It's a work in progress, but there's light at the end of the tunnel. When the time comes for me to taper off this medication, I will. Until then the last 10 years I have been able to put my life back together. I have a wonderful family, wife, employer and this wouldn't have been possible without access to this life saving medication. Everyone has to decide for themselves if it's for them or not. And it's no piece of cake. You have to put the work in. Anyway enjoy your weekend and appreciate the videos.
@presidentoatmeal9748
@presidentoatmeal9748 3 жыл бұрын
You are such an amazing and smart doctor. I'm 'addicted' to your videos. 😎
@ronredmond
@ronredmond Жыл бұрын
Methadone is a much longer detox than Suboxone. I’ve been on each of them over the last two decades, for multiple years, multiple times, with multiple cold turkey detoxes in the hoosegow. Now 37 with 7 years sober and 2 years off Suboxone.
@maryc5783
@maryc5783 4 жыл бұрын
Insightful and through! Thank you Dr B for your dedication to our community!!👍💗
@DrBAddictionRecovery
@DrBAddictionRecovery 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@joselitofox
@joselitofox Жыл бұрын
Me living in LA I got really bad on smoking fentanyl so when I wanted to get clean I took a Suboxone, I was 4 days clean at this point and I went into post-acute withdrawal soo soo bad it scared me to ever want to take a Suboxone again so then I got on methadone. Me going to the clinic gave me a purpose in life, because it's the small things that make a big impact setting small goals... So from living on the street to getting my own apartment all because of methadone just the key is to not take any for to long an additively. I wish all those that are going through it RECOVERY.
@chaoticatmos1461
@chaoticatmos1461 Жыл бұрын
What is the old chemotherapy drug you mentioned, that you said you'd compare to methadone? I'm asking as someone who's very interested in the pharmacology, chemistry, etc.
@ryan8430
@ryan8430 Жыл бұрын
I was on 150mgs and got so fn tired of being chained to that stupid daily clinic. I went from 150mgs to 0 in 7 days holy f was that brutal. I was still in a pretty aggressive withdrawal 3 weeks later and i had to go back to work so reluctantly i got on subutex and have been 100% sober since 12/28/01. Now my next goal is to totally free myself once again. I was sober for 6 yrs before i had reconstructive shoulder surgery. I was so niave to think even after that amount of time that i could responsibly take the pain meds after surgery which idk if anything would take that pain away. Ive never been in or felt that type of pain in my life post surgery it was unbearable
@Maxmaxmax63
@Maxmaxmax63 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. B, could you please make a video on the androgenic side effects of opiates, specifically with regards to bupe? The more detailed the better -- Thanks!
@irisrivera5111
@irisrivera5111 2 жыл бұрын
Being an experienced guinea Pig I must say you cannot compare Suboxone with meth or any other way so far to help with with withdrawals it should be used as a behavior rewiring use only what you need to not feel ill if you do one bag of day I find one piece of strip equivalent to 2 mg is enough not 100% but with a little willpower it truly helps to get you over that hurdle then when you want to taper off it will be a lot easier the worst symptom is you feel tired it takes about 10 days to get the energy level back to normal besides that nothing else Mr B it is a miracle drug
@ronnyclayton194
@ronnyclayton194 3 жыл бұрын
I was on methadone for a couple of years(2007/2008)and it got me just as high and sleepy if not more than 160mg of oxycontin or any other opioid/opiate then when I stopped it was the worst torture ive ever been through,even caused me to go from 1 seizure every 2 years to 5 seizures every month.Buprenorphine is the way to go whether its MAT or pain control,it dosent have as many restrictions and it dosent affect your respitory system or get you high like methadone.
@christopherwilliams7905
@christopherwilliams7905 3 жыл бұрын
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but actually suboxone is much harder to come off of even than methadone. The half life of buprenorphine is lime 37 hours to like 21 hours i think of methadone. You will be off subs for like 5 days and say huh im fine... Then 2 days later slap!!!!! Sorry to tell you.
@wangson
@wangson 2 жыл бұрын
Methadone saved my life. I've been on 75mg for nearly 11 years now. Not only do I view it as saving my life, but I also fully recognize that it saved my job too! The amount of money I was spending on Oxy pill was just extraodinary. 10,000 bucks over the course of 1 year. My entire life savings went up my nose. While I fully believe that it saved me, I've made peace with the fact that it's a medication that I'll be taking for the rest of my days.
@analogueoverdigital929
@analogueoverdigital929 Жыл бұрын
​@@christopherwilliams7905yep. Very true. Gotta taper suboxone to the microgram level, which is insane. Buprenorphine is also a partial agonist, and has the highest affinity for Opioid receptor sites. I'd say, to each their own. Suboxone made me suicidal. Methadone, I'm living my best life ever, and I'm only on 60 mgs, going down 2 mgs twice a month. I've kicked both, and while I'll say methadones physical withdrawal symptoms are worse than suboxones, suboxone withdrawal lasted twice as long, had crazy mental symptoms like visual hallucinations, hearing loss, suicidal ideation, etc. None of that with methadone. I truly believe partial agonists are not meant for our brains. I'll never take suboxone again. I'm going down to 1 MG of methadone, then jumping with a ton of clonidine I've saved up, some gabapentin, clonazepam, and tons of fluids.
@robertmanes9333
@robertmanes9333 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherwilliams7905no.. Speaking from firsthand experience.. Suboxone withdrawal is a cakewalk compared to methadone
@carldavey847
@carldavey847 Жыл бұрын
I am on Espranor(Buprenorphine) high dose. Started it after getting addicted to Oxycodone after a hip replacement. Like this bloke says you don’t feel like an addict but you will start withdrawing if you don’t take it at the same time everyday and you feel awful. I think I’ll be on it for life because I have substance misuse problems and they do actually call it a disease, Substance Misuse Disorder.
@davidsobilo9622
@davidsobilo9622 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video Dr B!
@DrBAddictionRecovery
@DrBAddictionRecovery 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Sobilo thank you D. Thanks for support.
@Texasgrrl77
@Texasgrrl77 2 жыл бұрын
I've been on liquid handcuffs for almost 20 years on 130 mgs. I want to get off. I'm tired. I started due to addiction to pain killers given to me for pain from Lyme disease and back pain. Methadone has been wonderful for me. I haven't touched a painkiller in 20 years. I believe I would be successful if I came off. The thing that stops me is the withdrawal stories. I'm terrified. But I'm just tired of being dependent on it. Sigh...do you think I should jump to suboxone? I just found your channel and am a new subscriber. Thanks for the concise and knowledgeable information.
@JOHNDOE-ue3iy
@JOHNDOE-ue3iy 3 жыл бұрын
Been on methadone for 19 years 150mgs..I know everything about methadone.
@NilodeRoock
@NilodeRoock 2 жыл бұрын
And?
@jmr6117
@jmr6117 2 жыл бұрын
Who cares ?
@monicamunoz705
@monicamunoz705 Жыл бұрын
My best friend has been on methadone for 38 years had 3 children while on methadone all her children have College degrees no side effects,my friend has been detoxing her self for many years ,she is currently down to 30 or 40 Milligrams maybe even lower she has been decreasing her dose 1 mg at a time slowly, she has monthly drug testing she has always told me that N A classes have never Worked for her she has always worked just looking at her you could never tell she was addicted to drugs , The only downfall is when they travel she’s limited to places due to the methadone clinics locations I asked her how did you do it , her answer : tell me who you hang around with and I’ll tell you who you are.❤ Oh and by the way her parole officer took her by the hand drove her to the methadone clinic that was 38 years ago.
@zgoat4127
@zgoat4127 Жыл бұрын
In the prison system we got high off of Suboxone every day they would cut 1 strip into 16 pieces and sell them for 20 bucks a pop all day and no doubt it got us high
@cray-z7404
@cray-z7404 Жыл бұрын
I'm convict and 16 strips out of 1 strip for 20 dollars don't sound right to me because in North Carolina prison you get a whole sub 60$
@zgoat4127
@zgoat4127 Жыл бұрын
@@cray-z7404 sell a whole sub for 250 all day and 400 to the dudes in ccu or shu
@robbiemacnevin4108
@robbiemacnevin4108 Жыл бұрын
Hello Dr.B, I just found and subscribe to your channel the last 3 or 4 shows. I was on methadone for 15 years about 5 years ago I switch to Suboxone which I find much cleaner, I take 16 mg a day but the thing now for anxiety and sleep I'm getting very dependant on Serax and Xanax and scared to death to try to come off them !
@joet7966
@joet7966 3 жыл бұрын
Been on methadone 8yrs went to jail on 120mg back in 2015 cold turkey was sick for 2,3 months methadone withdrawal definate most brutal drawn out torture there is
@stephencarr4208
@stephencarr4208 2 жыл бұрын
Yea it is fucking terrible, I was on 90 mg and went cold turkey and was worthless for a month. By 3 months it was manageable but I wondered if id ever feel normal again.
@jeffreypeck7429
@jeffreypeck7429 Жыл бұрын
I was on 100mg of methodone 5 yrs.ago I got off of it and now I am on 16mg getting off of it cold turkey and have been sick for a month, have not slept or eat good.
@icepick859
@icepick859 Жыл бұрын
Same. From 80mg. Could not believe how long it lasted. Im back to being to addicted to street drugs again cause im a fucking idiot. But I will not go back to methadone. I mean maybe if I get too sick I don't know. I'm gonna try weening off
@KARL_SHROOMS..ON.I.G
@KARL_SHROOMS..ON.I.G Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreypeck7429 👆👆look up that handle, he ships swiftly, and he got shrooms, Dmt, lsd, mmda, psilocybin, chocolate bars, he's got a lot.. 🍄 💊🍄🍫💯🔌
@KARL_SHROOMS..ON.I.G
@KARL_SHROOMS..ON.I.G Жыл бұрын
@@icepick859 I 👆👆look up that handle, he ships swiftly, and he got shrooms, Dmt, lsd, mmda, psilocybin, chocolate bars, he's got a lot.. 🍄 💊🍄🍫💯🔌
@magpieeye3239
@magpieeye3239 2 жыл бұрын
Methadone was a nightmare to get off of. I took 30mg per day for chronic migraine. Forced off after 15 years. I almost died. I was off in one month. Suffered horribly. That was 2016
@kamiminah6519
@kamiminah6519 3 жыл бұрын
Methadone withdrawal is horrible. I am on day 4 and it's so hard. Unfortunately being honest, I am going back to the clinic tomorrow because I am weak and couldn't handle it🥺😒 liquid handcuffs are going back on...
@jehareis7350
@jehareis7350 3 жыл бұрын
Day 4: You should be able to switch to Subutex. I hope you made this decision and for that, it has been offered to you. Good luck. U know we're all different, but we do have quite a lot 'general commons.'
@davidmathew603
@davidmathew603 Жыл бұрын
Im scared to try n get off the shit.
@joyrideing2
@joyrideing2 Жыл бұрын
The only draw back to suboxone is you have to be in withdrawals or the antagonist in suboxone will put you into precipitated withdrawals. I was on pain management from a pain clinic and in about 2017 when the fda came down on dr.s they cut my methadone quickly and started me on suboxone to quickly & the precipitated withdrawals put me in a suicidal state. Thank God the clinic took my insurance & I was able to quickly get bk on methadone! I've been on it for 20 yrs & have no plans of coming off!! It did take 3 yrs per protocol of clean ua's to get 2 wk take homes, but it works for me. I really enjoy your videos!! Thanks for making them!! I
@jonhutchinson2902
@jonhutchinson2902 Жыл бұрын
Great info. We have slightly different laws here in Ontario Canada. You can have dirtt urine samples for any drug every sample and they will never kick you off the program. Also suboxone users have to go to the clinic everyday just like the methadone patients. You have to have clean urine samples to earn take home doses for both methadone and subs. There were a couple others as well .
@jonhutchinson2902
@jonhutchinson2902 Жыл бұрын
I hear just as many or more horror stories from methadone users than suboxone users here too
@bobpelley5093
@bobpelley5093 Жыл бұрын
Here in Tucson they Will cut you off if you come up dirty for alcohol.
@jonhutchinson2405
@jonhutchinson2405 Жыл бұрын
@@bobpelley5093 really? What kind of harm reduction program is that. Thats rediculous.
@bobpelley5093
@bobpelley5093 Жыл бұрын
@@jonhutchinson2405 dont understand your question.
@bazglsgw1208
@bazglsgw1208 Жыл бұрын
Same in 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 if u pee dirty the won’t reduce you and will sometimes up your dose making it v hard to get off. Even getting some one to pee for u is hard because they have to be clean but on methadone no benzos or junk just methadone.
@scottouimet2865
@scottouimet2865 Жыл бұрын
Been on methadone since april 2015, and pretty much stopped all use of everything i was on after 11yrs. Now have wife and kids. Full time employeed dor 7yrs but i always was full time employeed. Been at monthly doses for almost 5 yrs. For now i dont plan to get off. That may change, but aftet yrs of trying to clean up and failing, its not worth risking the life ive built to get off. Thank you for making this video.
@murkstalinskitm5334
@murkstalinskitm5334 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks Dr B 👍
@ponzo1967
@ponzo1967 Жыл бұрын
I've been on and off of both. This information confirms what I've experienced.
@shockawha9
@shockawha9 4 жыл бұрын
Why can’t I get Oxycodone to get off H? I only started because doc got shut down and no other doctors would give me 4 30mgs a day... Methadone and Suboxone are long acting which I can’t take....I’m menopausal and can’t do hormone replacement so I’m not to take any extended release anything....fentanyl already sucked my adrenals dry and Oxycodone is really good for thyroid so why can’t I have it? If opiates had the same news releases and interest as cannabis this country wouldn’t be a mess! We should have opiate dispensaries and be able to discuss our needs with a rep instead of treating opiate like it’s a bad word
@williamwilliams293
@williamwilliams293 Жыл бұрын
I took 125ml of methadone every day for 9 years. Everything was fine until I moved to Florida. Before I moved the clinic was 5 miles away and it was 6.00 a day for it. When I got to Fl I found out the clinic was a 90 mile round trip to Jacksonville every morning. Plus instead of being 6.00 a day it was now 14.00 a day. Living on a small pension didn’t leave me a lot of extra cash. I kept it up for a month until I woke up one morning and didn’t have the money for it or the money for gas to get there. So I went to bed and spent the next 2 weeks actually wanting to die!! I didn’t sleep or eat for 8 days, after the 3rd day I gave up running to the bathroom to throw up or dry heave. I put my pillow on the window sill and layed like that every night. Believe me when I say getting off methadone is as close as you can get to hell without dying. If I was offered 10 million dollars to go through that again I’d tell them to pound sand. It was about 2 months before I stopped felling like I had the flu. The people that used the clinic had a saying that’s so true. They all said that herion gets into your blood but methadone goes to the bone!!! It did help when I took it but everything has its price and I paid it with interest!!!!
@amacmc6093
@amacmc6093 Жыл бұрын
Week one hell, week two better than week one but still hell, by halfway through week two some sleep came. After month you feel human again
@pigeonsil240sx
@pigeonsil240sx 5 ай бұрын
@@amacmc6093 after a month you feel human again? im 7 months off and still have serious post acute withdrawals that can leave me bed ridden
@vikingkrigare5329
@vikingkrigare5329 Жыл бұрын
To everybody: what was your main opiate/opioid before you started with Bupe or Methadone? Mine was Oxycodone.
@brockgangell5759
@brockgangell5759 Жыл бұрын
Morphine Sulphate
@steviedonny
@steviedonny Жыл бұрын
Heroin/fentanyl/oxymorphone
@crispycritter7022
@crispycritter7022 Жыл бұрын
Hydromorphone
@demsandlibsareswinecancer4667
@demsandlibsareswinecancer4667 Жыл бұрын
I was a natural Street freak so I would have to say almost everything. Definitely started with Pharmaceuticals but it ranged from Opanas to fent Patches and lollipops to the original OC's before they became the Op's and so on. The withdrawals were miserable because I was also Downing Xanax, Valium, and any other benzo at the same time. Then I would usually run out at the same time having to deal with both opiate and benzo withdrawals at once. At the time I did not realize you could withdrawal from benzos because I was stupid.
@JohnnyRocker2162
@JohnnyRocker2162 Жыл бұрын
Heroin/crack introveinous. Been on methodone 30years.
@celiahuling8024
@celiahuling8024 Жыл бұрын
A true leader.
@philpatton5652
@philpatton5652 4 жыл бұрын
I like your info doc but I'm in the UK England watch all your blogs your not a bad doctor ha ha very understanding but I reckon expensive . In England this type of care is free keep up the blogs an I will keep watching Phil from liverpool England UK
@stevebarr9604
@stevebarr9604 Жыл бұрын
Wow that's the most addictive thing I ever done! Took me years to quit and to start feeling better and I still don't feel normal! I would suggest that no one would ever do it! Just my experience and option!
@ronaldclayton824
@ronaldclayton824 4 жыл бұрын
Methadone can stop people from sticking needles in themselves and save lives even if it does still get you kinda high.
@ajley6039
@ajley6039 3 жыл бұрын
Does it stop withdrawal??
@zerothehero187
@zerothehero187 9 ай бұрын
You are fantastic,I'm in the UK and I've been on methadone for 22 yrs,it doesn't make me dozey or gouch out,it makes me energetic,confident whereas I'm normally anxious and socially withdrawn....when I used to take speed it made me withdrawn and quiet...opposite to the usual...I suspect I have aspergers but back to my methadone use,plenty of drs have tried to help me off it,I've failed every time not just as I cannot put up with the withdrawal but my anxiety etc comes back,all in all I function better on opiates than I do or did when wasn't using it. never used heroin,I got addicted to dyhydrocodeine after years of nursing,I hold down a job and everyone always says....wow...had no idea you were on this.....till I told them. I'm very interested in your thoughts doc....as of now I'm content on it....tho do worry if chemist doesn't have it on puck up day which is weekly...25ml daily
@gristamshackleford2102
@gristamshackleford2102 2 жыл бұрын
bad thing about going to the methadone clinic is finding out you have a random pee test that day and forgot to drink water on the way. methadone retains water by nature and already makes it hard to pee sometimes. so i would either have to get in trouble for being late to work or have to skip my dose and have w/d's at work
@askledhead
@askledhead 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any findings of Methadone affecting Testosterone levels
@shockawha9
@shockawha9 4 жыл бұрын
Methadone is horrible on our hormones-order some Vitadone to take with it
@mreloo
@mreloo 3 жыл бұрын
@@shockawha9 does it reallly help ?
@scrapsteenlifeintheforks1943
@scrapsteenlifeintheforks1943 Жыл бұрын
Methadone saved my life, I developed an alergy to Buorenorphine after trying to get clean the 4th time, I was having seizures from it. I went from 25mg to 70mg over the course of 6 months, stayed there a year and started going down 1mg every one or two weeks and the withdrawals are minimum, I run my own business now, own a home without payments, own two vehicles, pay my bills, take care of family and dont have any cravings at 7mg.
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