What is 'Nim Lik' and 'Qi'? | Chu Shong Tin

[@WingChunMindForce]

This has been up a long time, but it is surely one of the most profound videos ever uploaded to KZbin. Thank you so much for creating this from the original footage and thanks to the people that filmed it! It is truly a proof of power that westerners generally consider impossible or fake. I could never get myself to Hong Kong and I missed seeing him when he came out here in the 90s but I was rolling for hours one evening with a very advanced practitioner from Adelaide and my arms started to absolutely vibrate with power.. I could feel the vibration deep inside my bones and I felt that my arms had expanded into thick soft almost like concrete gloves reaching from elbow to past my fingertips. I felt long pointed energy coming out the tips of my fingers. My joints felt like they'd finally been released from some kind of lifelong constraint and I could feel the bones being pushed apart by this internal force inside the joints. I said to the practitioner 'wow what the heck is this that I'm feeling?' He said that's good that you can feel that, don't pursue it. Let it happen to you. You are going the right way about it and of course that right way is what you make clear in this video- fong sung fong sung fong sung!! Are you coming to the conference in Brisbane? I would really like to meet you! Cheers, Dave

[@NimTaoWingChun]

@WingChunMindForce Thanks for the lovely comment, Dave. Qi flow is a slippery topic because, quite frankly, there are not many people around that get it and can do it. Even ones that can do it aren't interested in showing it as they dont want the attention, and also there are different levels to it which are incredibly difficult to quantify. Due to it being so rare, it can be hard to wrap your mind around it, but fundamentally, it is absolutely a scientifically rational process and experience. But to study it and for someone to actually do it is incredibly difficult. I love that you have an incredible interest in it and find it to be profound because I feel the same way about it, too. My own experience with it was significant back when I was teaching and training at chi sau club for Mark Spence in 2012. I had some crazy experiences with my own students, and also, when I did massage treatments on my roommates, I was able to do things with it. Even doing the crazy hours (we're talking between 11-14 hours a day 6 days a week), it was still difficult to bring on Qi flow and it was also inconsistent. Some days you can, other days you can't. I haven't practised it for a few years, but I'm sure I can get it back if I could put that same amount of time back into it. Thanks for sharing that mate.

[@WingChunMindForce]

@@NimTaoWingChun I can't tell you how good it is to hear that you experience this and that you have actually used it for healing. Years ago there was quite a big online furor regarding nim lik and a lot of the authoritative figures were basically saying that only CST had it and that no one else will probably ever get it. I got in trouble a bit for countering in that, because that attitude really doesn't make sense to me. If you're going to do an art, what's the point of being mediocre, why not believe you can do what others do, they are only humans after all. Sigung in that last wish video he made, says I wish people would find a quicker way yet how many people have tried to find a quicker way? If you keep doing things the same way and getting the same results then maybe there is a better way. A story about him that you would know well is that he used to stand in the dark on the rooftop in Hong Kong with his tan sau out and just wait for something to happen. Does anyone do this? I mean there it is in black-and-white, that's what we have to do. Another one of the advanced practitioners from Adelaide, (both names start with T 😀) told me that because I'm an artist I have a big advantage because I'm able to hold very abstract concepts in my head and that I have extreme concentration through thousands of hours of drawing.. The memory is a bit blurry now, but I think it was 10 years ago when I had that experience, and the same guy told me to create a chi ball between my hands. I immediately started feeling it and playing with that feeling just really gently and it got stronger. Then I started , using these very light plastic balls and well that chi became a real entity, pushing my hands and pulling them and floating them. Then one day my wife had a terrible headache and I just for an experiment said to her let me put this chi ball around your head and almost instantly she said oh my god the headache is gone I just felt it drain out of my head! you are right of course it's very hard to describe this for the experience of it but what bugs me most is that we all should be doing this and why does no one talk about it. I've talked about it at conferences and on my channel, but I get subtle pushback from people who consider that I'm getting too big for my boots or running too far ahead of myself. I think we've just got to really work on this. Let's keep in contact together, I'd really like to hear how you go, and I've actually got other things I'd like to talk to you about, but not here. We must catch up maybe next time I get down to Sydney. Cheers mate you're a legend😀🐲

[@leebenson2660]

"nim lik" is the idea that helps you to make your movement without using muscular force. "Qi" is the internal power. Both "nim lik" & "Qi" can only be acheived by practicing "Siu Nim Tou" to a very high level.

[@IwasNotAsking]

This video is a gem! Thank you for documenting the precious teachings of Grandmaster Chu, and so generously sharing it with us.

[@rayperez6322]

This was 15 years ago. Amazing.

[@johnkwc]

Wonderful! Thank you so much for sharing this fascinating method.

[@alancwwong]

Amazing that people stepped back when master Chu applied Qi to his forearm

[@alancwwong]

Amazing that everyone had to step back when master flowed qi to his forearm

[@tommyli6301]

Basically he was demonstrating a repulsive force. First they hold on to his arm real tight, then he use chi to push them off. They could not hold on to him. He was just using a fraction of this power. He could seriously injure ☠ someone if he used full power. He could not explain it in words. The secret is to move without using your muscles. (Try figuring that out! Lol)

[@alancwwong]

chi = air, air flow, it could also mean gas, breath (when you breathe in, your lung is filled with "chi" (air), when you breathe out, you breathe out "chi" (air). I guess it is like when you breathe, your belly expends. Similarly, when Master Chu put air into his forearm, that part of forearm started expanding (felt like expanding) so people could not grab him anymore

[@ДенисДенисов-ш9н]

Can you please make an English subtitle? For those who does not know English good it is difficult to hear speeches with not ideal sound. Btw thanks for great video!

[@EricHollanderAcu]

I wish I could hear what was being said.

[@gogilby]

Thank you sigung, thx for shearing

[@cheeyau732]

Thanks so much for sharing!

[@NimTaoWingChun]

Thanks for your comment.

[@ConciseCabbage]

So “nim lik” is intent or Yi as it’s called in taiji. “the Yi leads the Qi”

[@GauteAnimationNorway]

I've been doing the Siu Nim Tao and other practices shown to me by both my trainer, and on a seminar at an other place with an american with this abillity. For like a year and a half. When I move my fingers, I can feel every seperate finger on my back like if I was gently touching it, and sometimes my toes too. I'm also able to some degree get the energi of a person pushing into my hand down my spine stored into my center. Does this mean I've been able to get Qi flowing, or are really close? Even though, it's a really good feeling. Like being light as feather, yet study as a mountain.

[@NimTaoWingChun]

There are many visualisation techniques that can produce tingling, however this is not one of those techniques. You may be feeling a few tingling sensations due to increased nerve activity. But if you have to ask whether it is right, then you can assume it's not. The qi discussed in this video is tangible and is self evident whether one believes in it or not, meaning the experience of it is all you need to confirm it. When you feel it, you will know and you don't need anyone to tell you. Exactly the same as if you are standing in the sunshine and can feel the heat directly, you do not need to ask anyone if it is hot, you just feel it. If I could give advice to you it would be do not overestimate how relaxed you are. However relaxed you think you are, assume you need to be more relaxed. Continue with this line of thinking. It is best to assume you are nowhere near relaxed enough to be able to feel it yet, however if you keep persisting with relaxation then it is inevitable that at some point you will begin to experience the real thing - I have no doubt about this. Keep up the training and eventually you will feel it tangibly. How long it takes is dependent on several things - how relaxed you are, how concentrated your mind is. Good luck!

[@arc3075]

Maksem Manler your on the right path. Keep doing what Sigung Chu said Ip Man says to do; “Use No Force” Relax into the form and perform it as slowly as you can make it. It was reported that Ip Man would do sil lum Tao so slow that it would take 60 minutes from start to finish. I’ve made it to 26-28 minutes. No words can describe this, but it is a path to mastery that requires the discipline. Good luck

[@arc3075]

I am a former student of Jason Lau when he lived in NYC. Before he moved to Atlanta Ga. A great teacher and master of wing Chun. I don’t know where you live but if you ever get to Atlanta. Go see him, you won’t be disappointed.

[@GiaoLong-kkk]

@@arc3075 great info. Thank u

[@sdtrailrider8070]

Wish I could have been there...

[@kracksmith4ejm1]

can somebody describe how does it feel with qi flowing when you grab his forearm??

[@NimTaoWingChun]

Hi. I felt two different sensations. The first felt like a flow of liquid through his forearm - as though someone turned on a fire hydrant hose. The second felt like a thousand ants crawling up the inside of his forearm. Tingly like fizzy coke bubbles. Slightly electric.

[@GiaoLong-kkk]

@@NimTaoWingChun did sifu Chu Shong Tin achieve this qi power or nim luk ( shown in the video ) by only training Siu Nim Tao or other qi method ( other style such as shaolin qi method )? Thank you

[@NimTaoWingChun]

@@GiaoLong-kkk Hi Giang. Only Siu Nim Tao helped him develop Nim Lik. Thanks

[@GiaoLong-kkk]

@@NimTaoWingChun Thank you so much. It helps me a lot. Wing Chun Viet Nam

[@jl1876]

imagine sifu getting robbed by a bunch of punks, they would all just go flying back at the same time lol

[@Andy-ud2do]

english subtitle please.. cause the sound is not clear

[@moviewong7728]

thanks for sharing

[@G4mer_D4d]

so... I see a beautiful woman when i walk into a party. i decide to move on even though i can't get her aura out of my mind and get a drink, mingle, try the dip... but i look up and i find ive wandered toward the beautiful woman... might this be an example of "nim lik" or "unintentional mind" .... sorry, ive been trying to grasp this for a while. =P ty a bunch

[@NimTaoWingChun]

That's a good example. *Nim lik* isn't unintentional though. It's a fully formed idea of what you want to occur. If you can get relaxed enough, the idea will organise and run the body's movement. The subconscious mind will take control of the idea and your body will simply follow it. Just like in your example. Except, in your example, the subconscious intention to meet an attractive woman and the conscious decision to move on, are opposing each other. Any idea which has been established inside the subconscious mind will take precedence of the body's proprioceptive control system. Thanks for your comment, Jeremy!

[@G4mer_D4d]

lol, i was just watching another video that was explaining just that by Chu Shong Tin. "like feeling the need to use the restroom, but using intention not too". it was explaing the sensation, but i think it still applies here. thank you, thank you, thank you! love the vids.

[@neilm896]

What is he demonstrating at 6:33?

[@NimTaoWingChun]

He was sending qi through his forearm and the guys in the video were feeling it move under his skin...like ants crawling. He could switch directions at will - forward or backward.

[@levonpogosian5722]

Is there a level of power in the Chi flow? or is it a continuous power level of flow ? Could he control the"Chi" intesity ? Very interesting thanks alot for the upload (sry for my english)

[@NimTaoWingChun]

Hi Levon. Yes, he could control the intensity and amount of qi flow.

[@minecraftotalwar]

Didn't understand, can someone explain how he pushes so hard

[@lm2193]

he pushed with his CHI instead of muscle force. he said it could only be achieved after years of practise Siu Nim tao correctly, without using muscle force while practising it...only MIND FORCE. Sound simple..but hard to do so. we r too used to use muscle.

[@pierusa123]

real Jedi

[@joyoboyo1936]

And how we can activate our nim lik?

[@gogilby]

repeat siu nim tao day and night with relaxed muscle. focus on deliver energy forward. some people get it in a few years. some don't.

[@lm2193]

its hard to achieve nim lik without a REAL master guiding you.

[@arc3075]

Nim lik is another way to describe siu lim tao.

[@stevenkok1926]

Great.

[@niomeaze]

please try to translate to spanish. it would be wonderful to propagate that.

[@jl1876]

a young ibrahimovic at 8:30