Chu Shong Tin Wing Chun | Sifu John Kaufman | Season 1 Episode 07

An exclusive interview with Sifu John Kaufman in Hong Kong to discuss the internal methods of the Chu Shong Tin Wing Chun system. Sifu John has been studying the internal methods of late Grandmaster Chu Shong Tin for the last 18 years. In this exclusive interview, Sifu John shares the training methods and in-depth explanations of obtaining the internal power hidden within the "Siu Nim Tau" by sharing his own personal experience and thoughts on the CST methods. Sifu John Kaufman is located in Hong Kong and can be contacted via email: [e-mail]
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The show follows Kieren Krygier traveling the far east exploring different martial arts and learning the secret skills and knowledge of the Grandmasters. Each episode will investigate various aspects of each martial art by interviewing the masters and allowing them to demonstrate their style and abilities on film. Giving the viewers a great insight into the martial arts world, and a front row seat to learn directly from the masters.
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[@joeboo1983]

Powerful chi Kung for chi and internal development kzbin.info/www/bejne/borSmHdsnrWZkMk

[@nathanielbrundige5982]

I've watched this video possibly a dozen times. I really believe it is one of the most coherent and accessible explanations of internal kung fu.

[@GungFu4Life]

I once met Chu Shong Tin at an event in San Francisco some of my students were participating in. He was allowing people to Chi Sau with him, so I stepped up. I got the impression I was touching hands with an extraterrestrial or an angel from heaven.

[@patarikisoterion9899]

GungFu4Life cool!

[@inspiringothers7197]

+Dirkjan - the fact I see your comments everywhere bashing on all types of WC is probably a bit more cringe to be honest with you. This type of WC is in my opinion the only wing chun that works, being based of structure, making it superior to any other type of WC. This was the way WC was intended to be and passed down through Yip man, to Chu Shong Tin. Also having touched hands with Chu, being a pretty muscular guy, I had no doubt I could stop that skinny 70 year old chinese man from doing movements that shouldn't be possible with x2 the muscle power. I've already explained a lot of crap to you like over a year ago, and I suggested you go to hong kong and touch with any of Chu shong tins students, or come down to australia and try your luck with me, as I'm fortunate enough to be a student to one of Chu's best students. Sadly, nobody on this planet is even close to what Chu could do, that man was a true superhuman. This way of moving and being is not easy to do, this is why Bruce lee failed to adopt wing chun entirely, and thus closed the gaps which are presented by using wing chun in a muscular way, which there are a fucking lot of gaps.

[@inspiringothers7197]

No, he was known for accepting any challenges that Ip mans school had though as he was the senior instructor who basically taught all of Ip mans students besides the 2 who trained under Ip before him, and apparently he didn't even get hit once, and a fight didn't ever last long. Ip man was also quoted saying that Chu Shong Tin had surpassed him in both skill and thought-force generation, and thus Ip man crowned Chu the title of "King of Sil Nim Tao", Ip man did not give that title to him and him alone for no good reason I can assure you of that. When I studied under him he liked doing Chi Sau with his students, he would always just defend and neutralize the other persons attacks, he did this so well, that the moment you and him were in contact with each other, even if only your arm was touching his arm, you lost all control over your balance, it was almost like he had control of your balance, he became one with you and somehow it felt like he would move you through the inside of you. Trust me when I say, I thought I was a powerful muscly guy, but sure enough his structure could hold my weight and every inch of force my muscles could generate and toss me across the room if he wanted. I threw a proper punch at him towards the end of my stay in Hong Kong, as I wanted to see if he could take my balance off just blocking/making contact with a quick jab, instead he said it wasn't necessary and proceeded to just punch through my punch. One, when he did that, it broke my structure and I toppled down but most importantly, he nearly broke my arm in the process from merely being in touch with it and crashing through it with his arm. I couldn't move my arm for over a week without being in intense amounts of pain. I can provide a couple of videos a friend of mine, Nima has filmed and created his YT Channel around. Here is one of Chu playing around with another ip man student: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6aan3SNmtt3jLc Here is one similar to what he did to my arm, the sort of hitting through an arm to the center with no hope of the person stopping him, and it doing a huge amount of damage: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqPTpWVrndWCh80 Here is one of Chu's realistic fighting videos, as in how things from forms apply to a fight: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpOniYd4rdlqf6s If you require something specific in a video just ask, I'll try my best to provide, and if there's nothing on YT for that specific thing, I'll dig through my recordings from when I was in HK and will try to find something out of those for you. All the best.

[@inspiringothers7197]

Found another that is pretty good, this guy uses a very similar method, one of the two ancient wing chun 'engines' which just means your body is an engine of some sort so you move or what not different ways, Chu's wing chun uses Lik power, whereas this guy is using Gin power, he's the only guy I've seen on YT who does, and this one is a good one to show you if you watch the whole thing you'll see how fast he is it's ridiculous haha. Hope you enjoy it if you watch it and finally become a chunner :P kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpDKhnx3bK94otk

[@batma89]

All I can say is thank you very much for all this shared knowledge! it's just beautiful!

[@FeralWorker]

"You have to use your mind to let all that stay turned-off when you move. And it's against our instinct because we want to have power, feels like there'll be no power, we don't trust it. But with practice you can learn to trust it." Great quote. Feel like it goes for politics as well--not giving into the desire to force and control but just learn to relax and trust ourselves.

[@joshuakouma7073]

my sifu is excellence. Lok Yiu Liniange, he told me to practice my si lim tao with no force in the body. didn't know why. just though it had to do with chi sau, but this lesson opens doors to me i had no idea existed. Awesome post. Thank you.. Thank you..

[@simontamchiyan2]

Sifu Kaufman is so far advanced in using internal force and explained in very simple english.

[@GonG108]

i know wing tsun since 1994 ( GM Leung Ting `s lineage ) and this here is the best explanation of chi sao i have ever heard and i can fully understand what he is talking about , it is brilliant

[@rayperez6322]

Really good presentation from Sifu John Kaufman on internal energy martial arts. Awesome.

[@maddi110]

Beautiful! Thanks for getting this gold out there. Thanks to Sifu too!

[@sungwingchun-chushongtinme4247]

Excellent, many thanks.

[@DavidOgle-yw3qy]

Best demonstration of Chu Shong Tin's teaching ever.

[@knightrider9742]

This is one of the best interviews I've ever seen. Love all this information about WC! Love this guy

[@jeremyturner7364]

Still agree 💯‼️. This particular vid changed my WC in a huge way. Sifu thank you 🙏 🕊

[@shooten1st]

Yes, echoing others, excellent. Thanks for the glimpse of CST's internal WC.

[@vicwarrior106]

Well, being able to repeat correctly what a master does internally is in and of itself a form of mastery.

[@yellostallion]

Thanks for sharing the "secret" sifu John. This internal stuff is misunderstood for the longest time

[@EricHollanderAcu]

Great interview! Thanks!

[@BoCopenhagen]

-So amazing beautiful explanation and demonstration: Crystal clear! Thank you so much for sharing.

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

Bo Rødding Thank you for your positive feedback. Please feel free to share the video and subscribe to our channel.

[@advadhuta]

Just tremendous! Thank you for sharing this superbly instructed internal wisdom.

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

Glad you enjoyed the video Graham.

[@dhern049]

Finally! Real Wing Chun being revealed to the public!

[@inspiringothers7197]

111AAA - no need to be a smart arse.

[@buddypaul4543]

maybe so,but at least hes shared it tous publicly for one and all,Ng Mui shared ,if we all share it gets better,

[@zaherelfeky5630]

انه ليس عن كيف تفعل و لكن عن كيف تكون.lt's not about what to do but about what to be. هذا من افضل ما قاله.This is one of the best of what he said.

[@hoshinotanecedryctensaibat9711]

best video I've seen all year, including non-wingchun categories. Thanks a million for making that interview happen.

[@VictorMartinsPT]

Thank you! Absolutely amazing explanation! Thank you :)

[@JK-eh2jp]

Such a good way to explain "Even distribution of force to one's own body" by John Kaufman. Great interview.

[@snufkin7169]

Mind Blown, great explanation !

[@mscir]

He's a good teacher.

[@TheKitchenerLeslie]

His ways confuse and frighten me. And how did they shrink these people to fit them into our screen, Keyrock? We don't belong here.

[@Bevallalom]

It was eye-opening. Thank you

[@Kung-Tech-Fu]

If I don't understand, practice, or even know this exist. I will never touch the essence of " the way of being!" (Conscious being) Which is the whole point of Martial Arts practice . Thanks for a true essential transmission. One love

[@tabootaboo1189]

Excellent. Thanks for sharing.

[@kendro101]

Great explanation! Great Teacher!

[@hatefmonajemi]

He explains things very well.

[@marcellocaponnetto7698]

Amazing life and martial experience. So authentic informations

[@choco107]

fantastic. thank you

[@marclacey2263]

Excellent and enlightening!

[@wingchunkune]

Thank you. I always wanted to know what the concept behind this teaching was and it looks like about being relaxed even when things get hairy. I guess the difficult part is being actually able to apply under pressure.

[@perrypelican9476]

Kieran, you will be a very effective martial arts practitioner after not many years because you are probably training a lot and every time you discover a better method, you use it. Please don't stop doing these videos. I wish you would talk about your personal training. Maybe 1 video per week talking only about where you are personally at with you training. You are a huge source of great knowledge because of how open you are to everyone you interview. I learned from this Kaufman guy the importance of totally changing the way you move. The most powerful fighter will be the one using internals naturally and instinctively. The more you give in to instinctive muscle tensing, the easier you will be to beat in a fight, especially against an opponent who uses internals.

[@christianbrady8585]

The weight (chi, what ever you wish to call it) sinking reminds me of the little bit of akido I did. Always was drilled in my mind 1. Keep one point, 2. relax completely, 3.weight underside, 4. Extend your ki/chi. Did a small amount of WC after jkd and presas Arnis for about 8 years (or so). Always was fascinated in the internal concept jkd didn't Incorporate as much (not lacking just didn't build on it as much at that time). Great stuff and great information. Maybe one day I'll touch hands with john.

[@watitduful]

Superb breakdown! I’m taking notes.

[@angelorosini4326]

The hidden teachings thanks for sharing!

[@SilenMonser]

@18:30 about which "gear" starts first... this one took me a long time to wrap my head around simply because I'm so used to the idea of gathering energy in the "Dan Tien" and then release the energy like a wave. We see it often too in lots of movies and mainstream media about gathering our chi/ki/chakra/energy from our stomach and exploding it out. There was so far, only one Japanese anime (Jujutsu Kaizen) that actually, explicitly addressed gathering energy at the "Dan Tien" as the hero's limiting factor and instead to treat the whole body as one engine to release the energy all at once.

[@robmiller1764]

Count me in on that one Kieran! Right after I finish Prana dynamics. Thanks for providing this great content.

[@vivekkumar-uh3lg]

I think I just got enlightened in a particular part of understanding my body....this man is a Guru.

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

I’m happy the video helped with your understanding

[@vivekkumar-uh3lg]

@@THEMARTIALMAN Now I realized what I unconsciously learned was to force my body into alignment. But my shoulder, waist, and legs are so stiff and misaligned that I started functional movement exercises to increase movements of ligaments and joints and stretching for stiff muscles. Eternally grateful to you're content. Bless you, may you find success in your endeavors to unlocking crucial knowledge of the human body.

[@lenwenzel7440]

Truly remarkable to make wisdom simple. That is the mark of a true Teacher. Thank you for this lesson.

[@hilo330]

God I love this guy! I would kill to see Sifu John Kaufman and Sifu Sergio and Sifu Adam Mitzner in a room together discussing their own variants of internal martial arts and what each of them involves and how they differ and dove tail with each other. That would be a true joy to behold :)

[@brandontodd14]

Don't call them "martial" if they can't be used in combat. It would be like trying to apply for a concealed carry permit so that you could carry your son's squirt gun.

[@snufkin7169]

Amazing! This and Adam Mizner are by far the best internal martial arts explanations i have seen. You should interview Nima King and Mox from Nord Wing-Chun :)

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

e san thank you for your feedback :)

[@dhern049]

YESSSS, great recommendations!

[@richardallan455]

@@THEMARTIALMAN He has a murky past

[@megamrsoftee]

It's great how this complements the concept of "song" Sifu Mizner is always stressing. The further explanation in this video is great (gears turning).

[@SteveMe21685]

megamrsoftee I’m starting to beleive all the “real martial arts” back in the day used Song. It’s just that because of secrecy or people just looking to make money off the arts it was lost by so many. That’s why most martial arts out there now is useless. Everything changes once you incorporate the internal aspects

[@NimTaoWingChun]

Very nice interview. Glad to see this out there!

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

Thank you for the comment, I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed the video.

[@georgecostanza2695]

What an amazing story.

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

Thank you

[@KungFuBum78]

The problem is when a master tells there students to relax, they relax like a noodle.. that’s not the true relaxation.. your body is like a popsicle, your bones and skeleton are the stick, everything else is the popsicle, when you relax your bones are strong but you allow gravity to melt everything away.. eventually your bones will become very strong, when you touch a master that is relaxing it should not feel soft it should feel very solid like iron.. in my opinion... I’ve touched hands with many people that get the wrong idea of relaxing and are like a noodle.. this is the wrong idea.. Thx for the video

[@hankwang8324]

Thanks for the great share

[@anthonypatti7868]

Supercool thank you!

[@JoeyOnly]

Thank you so much for these videos, but this one in particular. It was the first time I saw John Kaufman speak, I liked it so much I checked out almost everything he has on here...that wasn't enough, so now I'm going to be talking to him. Thanks for bridging this for me.

[@chrismahuriheitia3134]

Awesome ..

[@GonG108]

absolutely brilliant :)))

[@ianweir2115]

I must admit after learning the William cheung base Wingchun through a master that left him in NYC. I had to learn strictly by watching...then you do it...Huh? Sifu kaufman so thoroughly explains the concepts. I had to kind of...just do it... and figure out as I go. In my Masters defense I think back then in the 1990s, there were alot of Looky loos.. guys that come in for a week or a month and leave because they couldnt take the work outs. thank you sifu kaufman for finally explaining things I did for years...but not knowing exactly why. lol

[@valentijn9]

Very nice video!

[@yannkeraudren1433]

Excellent , merci pour ces explications .

[@fallingleaveskungfu]

A lot of similarities. I like what he said about "you never feel your own power when you do this right." We h ave that idea in common.

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

Thanks for the comment Ashe

[@Rehodigan]

"When there is no muscle, nothing can feel heavy"

[@wingchun-simplekungfu7584]

Really really good John. Anyone passing on grandmaster Chu’s teachings with your level of understanding is both providing the system a better understanding and a great asset to Ip Mans Wing Chun.

[@jeremyturner7364]

🙏🕊♥️thank you always

[@chrisken8902]

Good! G-o-o-o-d !!! (emperor Palpatine) ... feel the force of the emptiness flow through you !!!

[@bazman32]

Kaufman is quite humble and he is very, very good!

[@steveg219]

Excellent instruction!

[@markkilburn112]

Excellent video!!!!!

[@akymrinkovsky289]

Hello John & friends🙏~ Great work on sensitivities 🙂~ it is a pleasure to watch you guys. I am Akym Rinkovsky and with me is my best friend Wes Eaton. Like you guys we to are students of the "Wing Chun system" ... Studding Wing Chun form the late "Sifu Alan Lamb" in both his Burbank location/class and then some time latter, the Sun Valley's class, in the greater San-Fernando Valley in Southern California. ✨~ Just wanted to say high and thank you Sifu John for sharing this video 🙏~ It's awesome brother ~

[@akymrinkovsky289]

My friend you are too kind 🤝 Namaste 🙏

[@WingChunMasterAbe]

thank you so much!!

[@jarrodpelrine7229]

I love when he said you don't feel your own power when you do it right when I first started to training I kept hearing when you truly do something correct it doesn't feel like you did anything at all to be honest I'd be lying if I said I've achieved it more than once maby twice in 20 years is there anyone out there that knows what I mean? Much love from Massachusetts!

[@vincenthudon1520]

That sifu is great. I didn't know about wing chun but now I'm interested in it a lot.

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

Good to hear

[@julientenietshamccrayer5442]

Awesome Video!

[@SerhioB]

It's amazing.

[@CottonBoxer]

HE'S RIGHT even though he explains it his way. the biggest thing is for us to get out of our own way. this first has to happen in our hearts, then our minds and physical limbs/body. when we feel these changes then we start to trust it as he says. we trust the process that becomes natural and can be spontaneous/intentional depending on our skill.

[@spawn314159]

absolutly amazing,... you have a real way with words Sifu John Kaufman, i love how you put things ;) should do more youtube videos!

[@lm2193]

good, the most essential and hardest part of wing chun to master simplified.

[@virginiadao9029]

many great insights

[@alexfpower]

This is really awesome stuff. I'm going to learn this wing chun style as soon as possible.

[@andyng5321]

How is it now?

[@leoramirez4024]

I really hope that you can make another episode with John Kaufman that information is very astounding

[@GENECARP]

Great channel, Thanks

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

Thanks for watching!

[@MarcMcRae]

Thanks for sharing this! Amazing understanding, word usage, explanation, literally a quantum leap to enlightenment..one of the best vids I've watched in a long time.

[@oisinMcsorley]

Nice video pal

[@luisbonnet3957]

Profound!

[@glennr2358]

Very very good

[@phongsanm]

I like the "gear" explanation. It's kinda make sense even though I'm far from being able to do it. Thank you Shifu.

[@JKDVIPER]

Watched that whole thing again. I use similar methods in my jkd. Instead of feeling your arm to unleash internal Kung fu to mess up your structure. I hop off my back foot and drive a flying vertical fist into your chest or chin depending on where you put your hands. So, I see commonality here. Messing up the guys structure from any angle. That’s why I tuned in because sometimes I might face a bigger more dangerous body type. So to relax and sneaky throw off his structure is a gain to me. 💥💯🥊

[@patarikisoterion9899]

Love it!! I'm also Chu shong tin lineage.

[@harryhirsch8527]

no you are nothing

[@the.cracky]

Hi there. Which country are you from?

[@patarikisoterion9899]

Harry Hirsch Lol 😂

[@patarikisoterion9899]

Brian Nastalim Australia 🇦🇺👍🏽

[@kevinkorolmusic]

Some outstanding explanations! I will definately come back to this video. Thank you Sifu. 🙏

[@ThomasBurleson]

Wow, I wished I could go train with Sifu Kaufman

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

Tell him Kieren said 'Hi" when you see him. Sifu John is a great teacher.

[@blockmasterscott]

Wow, a lot of this is exactly what I'm learning in Chen Tai Chi, especially with dropping starting at the shoulder.

[@adamkane7513]

Tai Chi push hands shares certain concepts with Wing Chun Sticky Hands.

[@zeus1141]

this is very impressive and his language and choice of words make it easier to understand that those hidden meanings that every kung fu school teaches. I wish there was way more of this.

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

reded lipstick Hi are you looking for more of our show or more videos of Sifu John Kaufman?

[@dhern049]

More of your show on Sifu John Kaufman! :)

[@itsallaroundyou7085]

Its cool how every master in every art will teach alignment. Even Jack dempsey teaches what he calls the power line in his book championship fighting.

[@andrewblack7852]

“ motion in stillness, stillness in motion” that’s a direct quote from master Wang of yiquan fame. It’s been borrowed by everyone. It’s great that here is presented some aspects of the conditions required to embody Jin. Gravity is a tool for life as it is obviously present in all motion, but without an immediate teaching of lifting,( afterall a gravity only body is a puddle on the ground), there is this strange condition of immobilized martial man. The internal teaching is sitting feeling and “ ba di yu fey” ,( the Birds cannot fly away), this unifies the body and gives the heavy body that can fly anywhere. United in heaven and earth, the floating center. Many Wing chun practioners miss that because of the nature of their art is to “ sit back”. The is a Sifu in HK that is very deep into wc and yiquan, sifu Li

[@Conquered.lifeFl]

Very well done. Thank you for sharing. I look forward to more interviews!

[@barnabykent6698]

Other great video.

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

Thank you

[@perrypelican9476]

I would love to see serious fighting with wing chun masters

[@thomasda3482]

he is also very good

[@bilkostan7773]

It's like lullaby. If I won't feel it on my hands, I will never believe this "no force" theory.

[@raynardtownsel4149]

This is absolutely "excellent."

[@IkeTomas2010]

Good stuff.

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

Thank you

[@emotionalcontentmediaunltd2267]

ahhhh you finally found someone to teach you. I was waiting for this Martial man. Im gonna be leaving ALOT of comments hahaha but i learned this without a sifu. Unfortunately I have no access to any training. Makes no difference, I wish to touch hands with Sifu Kaufman very much. To see what I have truly taught myself. You see, relaxation is not what we are taught. And you sir martial man, only know of hardness. Every time you ask questions of masters, you ask only of hardness. But here you have the truth of the power of yourself and chi. Chi sau. See it there before you? Softness. This is WHY wing chun cannot be overcome. Why it is the simplest and most effective system. You do not wish to learn sensitivity, because most martial arts believe themselves to be "tough". EVERYTHING you do is HARD. That is IN YOUR MIND. Where ALL internal arts start. The body is not a thing, the mind is all there is. You can not adapt to anything in hard style. We can talk all we wish, til you can experience what this man is teaching you. It will not make any sense to your mind. It simply shows how FAR out of contact you actually are with your body. A tip. Never ask a sifu a question with the answer already in your mind. That is hard style. Instead, ask with the intent to understand something you do not yet grasp and words will never be enough to explain them to you. When you can truly win by doing nothing. And I mean that literally, you will not understand soft style. There is no paradox. Thank you again for bringing us all the masters!! Their work is so critical to all our developments and are some of the greatest people we have!! BLESS!!!

[@emotionalcontentmediaunltd2267]

My other comment is long. Its so good to see you finally becoming sensitive to your internals. This is also what happens in Aikido. You are stuck to him. He to you. YOU are one. There is no separation. Hardness separates. Softness incorporates.

[@garytotherow3722]

Interesting concept I will try this training thank you for sharing

[@juancarlosgonzalez8383]

"with practice you learn to trust it'. Boom.

[@knutehert3854]

thats really interesting

[@inspiringothers7197]

You should come down to Adelaide and interview my Sifu's. Lindy and Tony. Sifu John knows them well, you can ask him if he thinks they're any good, and he will most likely say they are far better than he is. In my opinion, and it's only my opinion, but Tony is probably the best Chu Shong Tin student in this day and age. I would be happy to help set it up with Tony and Lindy if they were fine with doing so. Would love to see peoples reactions to what Tony can do. On a side note, it would be lovely to meet you as well, and maybe I could show you some stuff too! Looking forward to future videos, thanks for posting such valid videos of excellent sifus. You're one of the very few on KZbin who knows what to look for in a sifu, and whom is worth interviewing and showing to the public. Keep up the amazing work!

[@arthurwatts1680]

I remember Tony from my time in Adelaide in the mid-80s, and I remember both WSL and Master Tsui coming to the IWCA on Gouger St (different visits) : what struck me was how relaxed they were compared to those of us who only had a couple of years training. Thanks for the memories.

[@inspiringothers7197]

@@arthurwatts1680 Awesome! You should see Tony now. You can't even feel him moving, it's like trying to resist a ghost haha, you simply can't resist his force.

[@ZaddyZavid]

@@arthurwatts1680 hey arthur you have seen them both in person..what are yr thoughts on cst vs wsl, they are the most famous arguably...who is better... is one lineage better than the other?

[@arthurwatts1680]

@@ZaddyZavid There is no 'vs' in my mind - both dedicated their lives to WC and both left an enduring legacy : that's really all that matters IMO.

[@ZaddyZavid]

@@arthurwatts1680 that's real sweet, but I don't have time/money/energy to learn both lineages. Which do you think I should follow if i had the choice.

[@PassportG]

Awesome. Bring back wing chun to glory. Internal is the way.

[@GonG108]

is there a website with more of it or a youtube channel , i would love to hear more of him

[@THEMARTIALMAN]

I have some more content form Sifu Kaufman in the members area of my website themartialman.com/members-only-videos/