What Is Pansexuality And Why Is It So Popular In Modern Film & TV?

[@marygreen1495]

I also think it’s important to be considerate of the sexual identity tied up to gender stereotypes. Sometimes, for example, being gay or lesbian is portrayed as having characteristics of the opposite gender, such as the well-dressed, “fruity” gay guy or the short-hair, manly lesbian. It’s perfectly fine if a non-straight person wants to adopt these characteristics, like gay guys painting their nails, but it’s harmful if that’s the only representation. Many of us don’t want to have their gender identity questioned because of their sexuality and just wanna go about our lives.

[@derekb4977]

LGB Alliance is important right now I do not believe in pansexual it's totally ridiculous.

[@TheHorseshoePartyUK]

Simple question: Since when was obsessing over labels and defining people by their immutable characteristics a good thing? I thought that was how bigots behave?

[@derekb4977]

@@TheHorseshoePartyUK there's no such thing as pansexual

[@naranoh6428]

I'm not a homophobic but i think its all b.s

[@tabithanel1975]

​​@@TheHorseshoePartyUK The difference is that bigots use their labels to tear other people down, not learn more about other people and themselves, like the queer community does with theirs. Hope this helped!

[@honeyswann]

When I came out as pansexual, I came out of the pantry , not the closet .

[@justatexasgirl5583]

😂🤣😂

[@NkatieBDE]

This is the most beautiful thing I've ever read😂😂😂

[@AlbertKamut]

Haha yes!

[@simplicitylost]

I love it! When are we going to get more pantry representation?!

[@prapanthebachelorette6803]

@@NkatieBDE exactly

[@willowkelleigh2247]

Just to add a perspective I haven't seen in the comments yet - Bi and pan are different labels and people are bound to feel different about them, so people use the label(s) that they feel expresses themselves the most. Functionally bi and pan have lots of overlap, but one label makes me feel comfortable with myself and the other doesn't, so that's the label I use. Since labels mean different things to different people anyways, there's no point in trying to "standardize" definitions of bi and pan (beyond the basic "attraction to more than one gender" that basically all definitions boil down to), if you have a question about why someone identifies with a label, you should just ask them. A non-bi or pan example is that some lesbians only like "masc" women and some lesbians only like "fem" women (yes, not all lesbians fit in either of these groups, hence my word choice "some"). Both of them identify as lesbians but the label means different things to the two groups. I also think that it's worth pointing out that pansexuality is often oversexualized, and we should shy away from assumptions about people's sexual practices. Attraction takes many forms, it is not always sexual attraction.

[@erinmcdonald7781]

Good points. 💜✊

[@TheHorseshoePartyUK]

I do wish the younger, Leftbook types would get thicker skins, critical thinking, better priorities than treating insults by anonymous Twitter users as Auschwitz, and stop defining themselves and everyone else by their immutable characteristics, then conflating this with changeable beliefs when it suits them and not when it doesn't. Most of all, they all need to get out of social media echo chambers, which are full of unknowable accounts and unknowable motivations, who benefit from misleading them about politics and economics, and into the real world. Enough. People need to lookup who Kaylee Walker is and what she writes about. "Gender Policing on the Left" and more.

[@rochellerodriguez6431]

Pansexuality is not opposed to bisexuality but rather can be considered a subterm under the bi umbrella for describing a particular nonmonosexual experience. We are more alike than not alike and bisexuality is not inherently transphobic (not any more so than being straight or gay is).

[@honeyswann]

This! I always see the “pan is biphobic!” but it’s just an umbrella term . It has several definitions to those who use it so it’s really just that

[@deldarel]

@@honeyswann "pan is biphobic" is so gross. They're imposing a sexuality on someone who doesn't share it, even though the relation that would come from it is compatible. You see this a ton with acephobia especially. 'you just haven't met the right person yet', 'you just feel undesired', 'everybody must feel something, right?' no, I live in my mind and I know what goes on there. Same goes for people pushing the label 'bi' on pan people or queerphobes pushing the label 'hetero' on everybody who isn't.

[@rochellerodriguez6431]

@@honeyswann Right? The research shows that bi folks are more likely to feel alienated from the larger LGBT+ community due to the stigma around having both homosexual and heterosexual attraction and I don"t think pan folks will escape that treatment just by calling themselves something different. We non-monosexual siblings, the bis and pans, need to stick together and support each other

[@rochellerodriguez6431]

@JC B exactly so! Also non binary folks can more strongly allign with a queer identity as part of their gender identity. Like a non binary lesbian or someone like Jonathan Van Ness who still strongly connects to the gay label even though they are non binary.

[@tunesquicklee]

i agree with everything except pan being under the bi umbrella. i think they both would fit under the multisexual umbrella, along iwth omni and poly. but yeah, it's very similar names for very similar things but some people prefer one over the other. why can't we just accept and embrace both terms? i really don't get gatekeepers and exclusionists sometimes.

[@Akilahfoye]

ooh how could you forget Rupaul, Denis Rodman, Little Richard, James Baldwin & Prince who were non conforming early on. They weren't loud about it but they were loud about it. Edit: Thank you everyone who mentioned more people. We must acknowledge those who came before us.

[@stewartgranger7674]

You do realise Prince and Rodman were still slinging dik. This is just bonkas. Pick your team, pan is bi.

[@j3rryb3rry]

Agreed… it’s sad they don’t see us when it comes to history

[@bufferino7880]

How does non-conforming = pansexual?

[@Akilahfoye]

@@bufferino7880 The video didn't just talk about pansexuality, but also queer representation in media "from fiction to reality". They said so at 0:37. So in staying with the overall theme I made my comment, highlighting some queer persons in reality/history even those who didn't verbally advertise they were, but whose queerness was more accepted in the arts. The video is a bit click baity with the title but c'est la vie.

[@sinnsage]

@@Akilahfoye it’s still a great and important video! the point being, representation matters so much in moving culture towards more acceptance of the variety of humans we have on this planet

[@i_a_r_n_a]

Bisexuality as attraction to "two sexes" is an oppositional definition -- it comes most often from people who identify as pan or who identify as neither pan nor bi trying to figure out how pansexuality is different than bisexuality. Oppositional definitions like this are always going to be SUPER problematic (and tend to feel like strawmen). Sometimes this definition is justified by extremely dubious linguistics, as they look at the roots of the words, but like, that's not how language works. (You can find that definition in historical discourse from bisexuals but the queer community didn't have established non-binary identities at the time, so what they were saying was inclusive of everyone. Non-binary folks have always existed, ofc, but the language was still developing.) Some amount of the rise in pansexuality as a label is surely rooted in avoiding biphobia. Both above, where it's coming from the community, but also from outside, in the form of "bisexual chic" that treats bisexuality as performative and/or transitory. A pansexual identity is an opportunity to be seen as legitimately queer in a way that has often been denied to people identifying as bisexual. Overall, I just wish this video was more focused on the sociological forces at play that led to us having two labels that are functionally indistinguishable from the outside (and often from the inside too). (And maybe not include that arophobic Ellen clip, whoof.)

[@boccibee]

You said it better than I could, this topic is always so dicey.

[@rochellerodriguez6431]

Masterfully said! This discourse has a complicated history and the bisexual identity has always been fraught. You eloquently put into words a lot of things that have been bothering me about the bi and pan discourse and how it often ignores the real problems our community faces like increased risk for depression and abuse in relationships.

[@carlie4964]

This comment! You really put my thoughts into words. I identify as bi, but people think I'm actually pan because I am attracted to people regardless of gender. That is extremely irritating because it ignores the history of bisexuality. Sometimes I feel like people are scared of the word "bi" so they use every other label but that (obviously you can use whatever label you are most comfortable with, just an observation) Even I have been using the term queer more because I have a boyfriend right now and people tend to take "queer" more seriously than "bi".

[@truecrimelover2022]

bisexuality can be the same/similar to pansexual but i know bisexuals that like men that are masculine and women that are feminine (in traditional terms) and aren't attracted to nonbinary folk i say this as someone that's nonbinary afab and attracted to women and just so I'm clear i mean people that are my friends that aren't prejudice toward me. I'm asexual also so I don't fit in to the old model that I grew up around. I'm in my 40s so that may also be a factor. I also have friends (mostly younger) that aren't sure if they prefer the pansexual or bisexual label. I think their has to be room for everyone but that's been a struggle since the existence of glbt rights. I can only say we have come a long way. Their wasn't words to describe me in the mid to late 90s when i grew up.

[@Catlily5]

I identify as bisexual because pansexual didn't exist or wasn't talked about when I was young. I guess I would more accurately be pansexual. Trouble is that many older people don't know what that is. So I just say bisexual.

[@JArtsChannel]

I remember hearing that Roger from American Dad was pansexual- then Deadpool. I'd like to see more pansexuals that aren't always jokey characters. I do know that Deadpool can be serious on occasion but he's basically the Bugs Bunny of Marvel.

[@NoahSpurrier]

Bugs Bunny was the hottest of the Looney Tunes characters.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

I'm smiling because although I agree with you, I'm also picturing just how much being pansexual might be a great place to discover powers of wit unknown to most people. I'm more familiar with Bugs, but even as a child in the 70's it was obvious that much of his wit came from being self-liberated from the intrinsic delusion and cowardice of bigotry.

[@xcx000]

@@NoahSpurrier Even when Bugs is in drag, he slays being femme

[@actualperson9628]

Maybe if it wasn’t a joke. Stop being so concerned with labels.

[@QueenCityStrangler]

Hard to take it serious…

[@amandajones661]

I think science fiction in general should be covered in an episode for breaking TV taboos like race, sex, gender, and disabilities.

[@prapanthebachelorette6803]

Yes please!

[@truculuz]

First interracial kiss Star Trek!

[@_FJB_]

No please!

[@sticksnstonespatriot1728]

Ghaye

[@bobbyallen7977]

TV taboos?

[@SoniaSephia]

Some writers like pansexuality because that means that character is open to falling in Love with a multiple characters in their story. However that runs into the hurtful trope that pansexual people are sexually predatory or just have no standards and will sleep with anybody. Most writers are straight men so I think what writers need to do first is be educated on the spectrum of pansexuality and the complexities of it. There's tons of free videos forms and even free academic papers on pansexuality, so writers don't have much of an excuse to maintain ignorance.

[@Celticgal21]

Pansexual have taken the sexual deviant trope that Bisexuals use to be in TV shows.

[@sarahwatts7152]

Another reason for diverse writing teams.

[@SoniaSephia]

@@Celticgal21 Sadly yeah. Pansexual are getting the bisexual "sex deviatant treatment" 🙄. It's so dumb.

[@FifthAveAtFive]

@@Celticgal21 THIS! That is one of the stereotypes attributed to bi people, such as myself.

[@mina3625]

that is literally a bi stereotype

[@idax471]

Some are saying that bi and pan are the same and pan is under the bi umbrella but the terms we use and use them to mean are really up for debate and not for one person to decide. Personally I say bi for myself and don’t really identify with the pan experience much because of clearer preferences than that expressed by pan people. Still, I feel like distinguishing between the two creates confusion. But it’s kind of inevitable as long as bi is associated with the number 2.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Ok, so how many of you thought ‘Xena: The Warrior Princess’ was landmark Queer Representation? I know I did.

[@olly2027]

Yra

[@morphanage]

Hell yes, Xena was probably the first live action character I saw myself in, and her unapologetic brash powerful sexual energy was a huge factor in that.

[@VeraDonna]

Xena was queer?

[@morphanage]

@@VeraDonna well, I thought that Gabriella was her girlfriend. In my head cannon, Xena, Gabriella and Joxer were going to end up as a thrupple before the show ended lol Here's a link and a quote from an interview with the Xenas actress with Lesbian Magazine: When asked during a recent exclusive telephone interview from her home in New Zealand how she would characterize the relationship between Xena and Gabrielle, Lawless is quick and simple in her reply to Lesbian News. "Gay, Gay," she says, "Definitely." Lawless admits that even she wasn't sure about Xena's sexual orientation until the last episode. But once Gabrielle had to revive Xena by passing water into her mouth, Lawless says it was clear that these two characters were more than just close friends. "There was always a 'well, she might be or she might not be' but when there was that drip of water passing between their lips in the very final scene, that cemented it for me," she says in her thick New Zealander accent. "Now it wasn't just that Xena was bisexual and kinda like her gal pal and they kind of fooled around sometimes, it was "Nope, they're married, man." web.archive.org/web/20030627055431/lucylawless.info/articles/lesnews03/index.html

[@VeraDonna]

@@morphanage well, today I learned two things: Lucy Lawless is a kiwi and Xena was gay. Well... Actually I just never stopped to think about that, but it does make sense. We just didn't talk that much about sexual orientation in the 90s.

[@marysue4729]

"Pansexuality, as opposed to other forms of monosexuality or bisexuality, really is saying that people can have sexual attractions or sexual and romantic attractions to people regardless of gender identity." That's how I define my bisexuality. At 10:51, I love the phrase "letting us own our narratives." I'd love if bi people could own their narrative, too, and not have it defined by pan people. Why in order to try and define pansexuality do non-bi people have to falsely define bisexuals as transphobes, acephobes, NBphobes, etc.?

[@FifthAveAtFive]

Especially when there are folks under the non-binary umbrella (agender with feminine leanings, so librafemme but demigirl/demifemme also work) that are also bisexual. While I might have a slight gender preference depending on the person, at the end of the day I can be and have been attracted to people within and outside of the binary. I’m attracted to my own gender and people not my gender.

[@mina3625]

well said !!

[@EyeofZai]

super well said!! the way i see it is one person might call something a creek, and another might call the same thing a stream, and another might call it a river. none of the people are wrong. and when it comes to identity you’re the only one that really understands and creates your identity. if someone else had the same experiences with identity that i have, they might use totally different labels and they wouldn’t be wrong to do so.

[@MaraMara89]

English is not my first language, but I would try: The problem with Bisexuality and Pansexuality is in the language history and language changes. Bi- means two / dual, as in bilingual means someone speak 2 languages. Bisexuality is older term, from the times where most people thought/believed there are only two genders and probably because of that most people think that being bisexual means being attracted to males and females (excluding attraction to ace, fluid and NB people). I do feel like the term pansexual is really new in general public use, and would be more conected with younger people attrackted to all genders, but the fact that there was that period of time between heavy use of bisexual and begining of use of pansexual was not the time when people wasn't attrackted to all genders, but because of lack of the term pansexual in their dictionary some people used bisexual as it was the closest thing to exist. Sorry for long (and probably not so easy to read) answer. May I ask how old are you and when in your country people started to use word pansexual in general usage? Also: sadly, but some people can't understand that some people are fluid or NB, even if they are part of LGBTQ+ themselves. So, there are people who are bisexual but ... I wouldn't go as far as NBphobes, because there is no phobia or hate, but not understanding whole spectrum :/

[@FifthAveAtFive]

@@MaraMara89 The thing is bisexuality has always meant attraction to 2 or more genders, regardless what those genders are and if there is a preference or not. As understanding of gender identity has evolved so has the definition of bisexuality to be inclusive as it was intended to be of all genders. The differences between bi and pan and other multi-attraction orientations are semantics, important to some but should not be a cause for discord and divide. I’m technically omnisexual, but due to the broadness of the definition of bisexual I use that term instead. It’s more comforting and understandable and I can always go into more detail to explain what bisexuality means to me and how I experience it. Additionally I am also non-binary technically although I do feel like I have part of my foot in the binary since I sometimes identify as a woman but more often than not I don’t have a gender (agender), and the term for my identity is librafemme, but demi-girl also works although it sounds infantilizing to me since I’m not a girl when I’m a female, I’m a woman.

[@martharivera1590]

I like to learn about the different names pansexual , queer, bisexuality, gay. I am a 61yr woman that just want to learn without any disrespect , I have great respect for the community. I just believed in "live and let live".

[@derekb4977]

No it's LGB everything else is meaningless

[@alol.fan9249]

@@derekb4977 not true non binary people exist

[@SuperClaire1994]

Thanks Martha, keep learning 😊

[@derekb4977]

@@SuperClaire1994 you mean keep being brainwashed, there is no such thing as pan or anything after the B, as a real gay man I will debunk this labels madness stop it at once.

[@user-rs2qm1tz3z]

I know that this comment is from a while back, but I personally recommend reading articles from the Trevor Project's and GLAAD' websites :) Learned a lot from them

[@Kevin_tx]

I love cooking on pans. I love frying eggs on pans. My pronouns are egg/fryer.

[@vernahunter4601]

🤣🤣

[@rebasack21]

I remember all through highschool thinking something was wrong with me because i never had any interest in sex with anyone, at all. I still dont. It is only because of the internet i have learned that i am asexual and according to my family i am probably agender as well because i have zero attachment to any gender as well. I really hope that all these advances continue despite the hatred from the people who refuse to accept that there are people out there who are different and have never and will never fit into the little box they want the world to fit into. I also hope that maybe someday i will see someone like me on tv so that others like me dont grow up thinking there is something wrong with them for having no interest in what seems to be the only thing everyone else talks about in the school hallways. Honestly Love is Love.

[@meganpeitzcobarescobar8137]

[@moniquebyrd8346]

My damn thoughts exactly love is Damm love.let people love or like who the hell they want to...damn

[@craigime]

Lol

[@jamietanksley3113]

FYI: God is love

[@TheAquaticMandolin]

As a bi guy that has only recently found a definition of pansexuality that made sense to me I really appreciated this video. It was best described to me recently that the biggest difference between pansexuality and bisexuality is preference. If you have a preference you're more than likely bisexual if everything under the sun is good you're probably pansexual. It always felt like nobody wanted to define it and it really confused me because I do have a preference but I've always subscribed to the two or more gender definition of bisexuality, so it always left me scratching my head.

[@Catlily5]

That is not the difference between bisexual and pansexual that I heard. I heard bisexual is only if you like men and women and pansexual was if you also are interested in nonbinary people. I am confused.

[@singletona082]

Straight guy here and i"m gonna agree with the sentement 'what's the diffrence? Isn't that just bisexuality?

[@UltimateKyuubiFox]

@Cat Lily That isn’t true. The best way I can define it is that bisexuality means your attraction to different genders/gender presentations ‘feels’ different, where for pansexuals, there’s no real distinction in how each gender presentation causes interest. My attraction to men feels different from my attraction to women. I find myself interested in different things about them. Meanwhile, my attraction to nonbinary people varies in focus depending on which individual I’m looking at.

[@TheAquaticMandolin]

@@UltimateKyuubiFox exactly! You worded it much better than I did.

[@prapanthebachelorette6803]

Thanks for clarification

[@cwirthless]

My first introduction to a pansexual character was in my late teens and came in the form of Captain Jack Harkness, played by John Barrowman in Doctor Who and its spinoff, Torchwood. Despite the sci fi setting and sometimes over-the-top goofiness of the show and its characters, Jack still felt special to me because he had one facet of my being that I really hadn't seen portrayed anywhere else. Now, when I speak to those who may be unaware of pansexuality- or even bisexuality- I find that saying I'm an "equal opportunity admirer" usually gets the point across.

[@wheelsistheman]

The last thing you said reminded me of a friend of mine. She's bi and I always called her an equal opportunity dater who won't give me an opportunity to date her.

[@turquoisewitch.wild-owl]

Nobody ever talks about autosexuality...just saying! The only thing I can think of that includes that is pansexuality. What I mean is that someone who is pansexual can also include themselves. I'd like to hear more about that. The only one I've ever heard come close to talking about it is Lizzo in her song Soulmate...my favorite of her songs.

[@ericthompson3982]

It's important for older people too. My friend didn't know, or couldn't admit, she was trans until her 60s. I've worked very hard to make sure my son understands these things, whoever he grows up to be.

[@morganbiddlecom]

I think verilybitchie's video on this topic includes a lot of nuance that is lacking here if anyone would like further viewing.

[@owendeliebs1894]

The fact that PBS which takes American tax dollars to supposedly educate people or even just a video about "misgendering" can call Senate Bill 1834 the *"Don't Say Gay"* bill is beyond ironic. You should really be ashamed of yourselves.

[@willowbee2688]

Lord please deliver all these lost souls 🙏🏾🙏🏾💖🙏🏾..God bless you 🙏🏾💞

[@dahoesgonnaluvdis]

What do you mean?

[@charlescuevas178]

Total insanity, who cares

[@gingermay6271]

Amen, this is more nonsense to dismantle our civilization

[@naolmstead]

It's great that pansexuality is getting representation in our culture. I just wish it didn't spread the false idea that bisexuality comes from binary or only liking the two traditional genders, etc. My understanding is in the olden days before our parents and grandparents were born when these terms first started being used there was hetreosexual for those that liked people different than themselves, homosexual for those that liked people similar to themselves, and bisexual for those that liked people both similar and different than themselves. For it's earliest days it was an umbrella term that was inclusive of all those people that some now try to claim it is exclusive of.

[@lilnoir4213]

Bisexuality does come from binary and so does homosexuality, of course there are nuance to everything. You guys really should read some classic freud instead of copying the newest opinion of the universitys. Love, sex and attraction doesnt come in a clean progressive way. Everything that is wrong and good in a society affects what we consider hot and how we love. Yes we can control it a bit and reflect, but lust wouldnt be lust if would get to choose the most fair and progressive way to be attracted to somebody.

[@naolmstead]

Was Freud bisexual? Did he invent the word? Is he the only person in history that is allowed to define human sexuality? How did he define pansexuality?

[@bro-doswaggins4542]

Wtf is a binary?

[@jtm0071]

God help us

[@miss1of2]

​@@naolmstead pansexual was actually coined by psychoanalysts to describe people who are attracted to literally everything (objects, animals, etc)

[@jamestaylor7338]

I'm sorry to hear that Janelle monae mindset of thinking is this way. They got a hold of a lovely one and turn her out, quite sad I may add.

[@marjoriepope7015]

I agree. I’m shocked at her

[@henriettaparks4266]

MARJORIE POPE!!❤ IM 😞 SAD TO SAY IM NOT, AND, SUSPECTED IT!! TO EACH THEIR OWN!!❤❤ SHOW LOVE AND RESPECT!!

[@FrostFanatikmusic]

Can we all just be human for once without all the labels attached?

[@bobbyallen7977]

The issue though is that these people who engage in these behaviors want those labels because they want some sort of justification for their behavior.I agree with you though.Im not really interested in a person's sex life or the type of behavior they indulge so I can honestly say that I'm not interested in how one labels themselves just don't expect me to be congratulatory about it

[@Sarahlancey]

Well right now it’s not possible bc of discrimination.

[@bobbyallen7977]

@@Sarahlanceythere's not one thing wrong with people choosing who they want to be with,work with, associate with etc. and it applies to all walks of life.Its a fact of life and it's not new and it will never go away. Just a heads up

[@Sarahlancey]

@@bobbyallen7977 I think you misunderstood my comment. I wasn’t saying that sexuality and LGBTQ+ labels were wrong. I was trying to say that they were in use mainly bc of discrimination. Using a label at first was a political stance against homophobia and how systemic it is

[@bobbyallen7977]

@@Sarahlancey actually no you're incorrect but ok

[@Raja-bz4yw]

Can you guys do a topic on demisexuality on the asexual spectrum?

[@ajgivens5525]

I’m still a bit confused about the difference between bisexuality and pan sexuality but this episode was really informative. Good job 👍🏾

[@Futurebound_jpg]

As someone who has identified as both i can also share your confusion. I am under the impression BIsexual means you are attracted to men and women, but nonbinary people, androgynous people, and hermaphrodites etc are not included. Because bi means 2, and the 2 main genders are male and female. And then pansexual includes absolutely everyone no matter how grey-area their identity may be. BUT many bi identifying people will say thats not true and that the bisexual sexuality includes nonbinary people etc, but i strongly disagree because then what is the literal point of pansexual if bi and pan both include all genders. Im pansexual, im emotionally & physically attracted to people regardless of masculinity or femininity etc. i have taste, i have types, they just dont depend on those two factors. BUT more people know what bisexual means so I often just say that

[@augafey]

I wish they'd gone more into that, as someone who identifies as a baby bi. (Just came out at 38) I feel more comfortable with the term bi, but I'm in no way excluding trans or nonbinary folks from my spectrum of attraction.

[@kidjames2414]

Is no difference

[@morphanage]

As someone who for years has identified as Panromantic, Demisexual, I agree with the confusion. I first aligned with different terms as I learned about them and understood my desires. First bisexual, then pansexual, then Demisexual, and finally as Panromantic Demisexual, once I did my research. When I understood that it is okay to separate my romantic and sexual desires and to name them as such, I was able to finally comfortably describe myself to myself. I also am bound by my adherence to the literal understanding of pan and bi. I personally hear bisexual as being locked into the gender binary. I don't see that as transphobic, but as a layer of attraction complexity. I recognize that it is a deeply debated topic, so I try to find out how people wish to identify and be interacted with. I recommend delving down the rabbit hole of growing academic discussion for an afternoon and form your own opinion on the other side. ☺️

[@AlbertKamut]

@@Futurebound_jpg Please don’t place your own issues with jargon on an identity that isn’t isn’t yours. Bisexuality- can be attracted to people of all genders/non gendered people. Typically attracted to those people due to gender traits. Pansexual- gender has little or nothing to do with who the person is attracted to and why. Please do you research on your community so as to not contribute to further oppression.

[@keyonashears7108]

I’m so glad that this is finally being talked about. Because when I came out as a pansexual ppl were so confused and were asking questions like “so does this mean that your bi” Or “how does that work”. so for it to be noticed and talked about, I am just really happy. ❤❤

[@derekb4977]

There's no such thing

[@TheHorseshoePartyUK]

@@derekb4977 Well it's just an extra fancy Bi for people who want to feel extra unique and special, so they can feel, and behave imperiously to the rest of the community as well as The Straights. I cannot recommend the Queer Majority site enough.

[@juratory8876]

​@@TheHorseshoePartyUK Pansexuality can be defined as an attraction to people regardless of gender identity. Opening a dictionary isn't that hard.

[@0rangeberri547]

You just made me understand a storyline on All My Children back in the day it was a pansexual storyline without saying the word😉

[@asterthedisaster]

That big mouth episode was so discouraging to see onscreen as a bi person. Undoubtedly unfixable damage has been done with how horrendously inaccurate its description of bisexuality was, and it was very disappointing after what seemed like a well written arc about Jay's bisexuality. I'm so tired of being told that I'm "actually pan" because I like people regardless of gender. I'm bi.

[@chandranelson2772]

I’m bi, and came out in the 70s. That said, I am attracted to all men, women, and people who identify as anything else. When my wife came out as trans, I didn’t have a problem living with a woman, and I don’t understand why binary trans people are included in the description of pansexuality, because my wife is a woman, period, not something separate. I understand that some assholes think differently, but I don’t consider her as anything but a woman.

[@jodino6953]

This world is just confused and fucked up!🤮🤢

[@Ikright0]

You're just pan

[@rawrm247]

With so many identities out there, I started to feel overwhelmed. That’s when I realized I liked identifying as just “queer”. It makes me feel comfortable. However, I still haven’t figured out if I CAN just identify as that. Connotations and meanings change a lot over time.

[@FxdGearQueer]

I feel you. Shedding my old gender label felt good, because I never felt I could live up to it. So I'm not in a hurry to subscribe to a new label. I'm good just being me. Ditto with attraction. I like people. FWIW, I think you CAN identify as whatever you want, and if "queer" makes you comfortable, no one can take that away from you. Peace!

[@prapanthebachelorette6803]

I feel you

[@thewalkingroach]

Of course you can just identify as queer! :)) the 'Q' is in LGBTQ+ for a reason, i know a lot of people identify as that

[@jrod7017]

Don't let other people define you or tell you how you must feel, or how you should define yourself based solely upon your urges for pleasure. It's like defining people based solely upon what alcohol they crave. Those may obstain from drinking altogether; would they still be referred to as whine babblers, or scotch-men, whiskey girls, logger lovers? No, it's proposterous. That does not define who you are. Labels in and of themselves often force stereotypes, prejudice, and discrimination. You are a soul staying in a body, not a body that dictates the soul within. We are more than our physical needs, wants and attributes. -Just my opinion. Martha S, I hope that you have a great day, and I wish you peace.

[@marymiller769]

Well , I don't know what to say neither , I personally like women , I identify as a stud , but I'm attracted to other studs , trans men and women, and men , but I'm not attracted to overly feminine women , u know , makeup , high heels dresses all the time, I guess that makes me pan also , I don't know ??? Lol , 🤭🤭🤔😁

[@fthcrwfrd]

I am a straight BIPOC who is actively learning about LGBTQ+ issues for awareness/understanding and to be a better ally. However, I’m frequently seeing/hearing terms in media like “vanilla… basic…boring…” from individuals in the LGBTQ+ community when describing straight ppl. The aforementioned terms have a negative connotation as if there is something wrong with being straight. This is for everyone: be free to be who you are; be kind and treat everyone the way they want to be treated; and, let’s bury the derogatory descriptions.

[@fawkewemf5616]

Our society is HETERONORMATIVE & some ppl are RIGHTFULLY sick of it

[@fthcrwfrd]

@@fawkewemf5616 Again, insert previous comment here. Respectfully.

[@cvilla5631]

First of all, what is a BIPOC? Im new here

[@fthcrwfrd]

@@cvilla5631 Black Indigenous Person of Colour (BIPOC)

[@jackjines3461]

Oh great another fad. I never dreamed a corrupt regime like the demos would bring out such evil. I'm shocked to find out there's so many people that were just waiting to pounce on society and bingo the right party came along. I pray that people get right with God because he won't let this go on much longer. He won't let his people insure much more of this insanity.

[@honeyswann]

Honestly , my favorite thing about being pansexual is the kitchen jokes .

[@derekb4977]

That's because pansexual is not real.

[@vanmann8347]

Another word for bisexuality…period!!!

[@TheLastEmperor1]

On steroids?😕😕😕

[@debbieblakeley369]

It’s probably better said as “ try sexuality “.🤭

[@kimberlymarshall3977]

So basically, you're just attracted to; who your attracted too. 🙂

[@lizsalazar8808]

Yes, but you have to make a label for it so you can claim your marginalized status.

[@endcensorship874]

Some made up bullshit is what it is. Because everyone needs to be a unique and special flower of unique and special origin. It’s just s way to ignore a cold and hard world by extending the childlike era of make believe.

[@The1stClassVillain]

Oh gosh. LGBT people say that now we need a gay dictionary. It’s too much.

[@s110h2]

Lmfao welcome to society 💀

[@dud3man6969]

You can't really experience a deep connection if you're fucking everything.

[@zammich3649]

I wish people wouldn't get so caught up in defining/judging humans based on word stems. These terms did not arise from the earth itself, and not every word is a perfect catch-all that's constantly accurate for every situation. Language is only a man-made construct used to describe observations and facilitate exchanges and pass on information. Bisexual, pansexual, and omnisexual, etc..... Of course, you can choose to identify yourself using whichever one you prefer (for whatever reason you choose), but it does not define you or your complex preferences, it only attempts to make it easier to describe you before someone gets to know you on a deeper level.

[@kl-1447]

Hey PBS Origins, this is a great episode on pansexuality that managed to cover most of the nuanced conversation and I think its super helpful. That being said, that Ellen clip is pretty obtuse for referring to not wanting to be in a relationship as being a "freak". I would love to see more episodes like this covering different sexualities, specifically ones on asexuality and aromanticism.

[@vortbio]

Looking to popular media to confirm any sort of personal identity seems dangerous at best. I feel sad for anyone that has to resort to this to feel validated.

[@craigime]

These people probably need therapy

[@ashdacraft]

It’s sad that some times this is the only space where someone can actually see someone they relate to.

[@jaysun4069]

Not my first but my favorite was Oberyn Martel from game of thrones. "Why deprive yourself of half of life's pleasures"

[@sacul199021]

As a gay man who is also genderqueer, I very much appreciate this video. Originauts, unite!

[@erinmcdonald7781]

I like that "originauts"! Hope you don't mind if I borrow it. And, yeah, #OriginautsUnite 💜✌️😎

[@Ceruleanturkeyz]

Pretty sure the fight about the defintion of bi and pan is ongoing and way more enflammed then this video hints at. Lots of people will take this title as an implicit stance on the issue.

[@rogerarmstrong8893]

They used to be called perverts. Now its pansexual or pervert light .

[@cakepup]

I’m pansexual and it’s not only common in films, I know a lot of people who are pan. Half my city could be pan, it’s likely.

[@westproperty6178]

So, they are bi-sexual. Why the need for another label? That is a serious question. I really dont understand.

[@craigime]

You can't understand the rainbow mafia

[@Bay510Area]

Ever since I came out as pansexual, everywhere I go, spatulas try to spank me. 🥴

[@valeriegarcia4448]

Ellen didn’t surprise anyone when she came out.

[@evelynlamoy8483]

I really hated that big-mouth episode. I am a trans person, who is pansexual.... and to me, an uncomfortable amount of backlash followed that big-mouth episode. Suddenly, it seemed like a lot of bisexuals, who do not experience it as a binary, really were very passionately trying to defend themselves... but in doing so, many overstepped and were really tearing into the pan community. Suddenly its like "cool you'd date a trans person. I am a trans person and all your doing is making me hate my pan-ness because BIG MOUTH fucked up rep?"

[@kashmoney6344]

bisexuals defending ourselves against misconceptions most pan ppl play into isn't overstepping, it's trying to wrestle back our history after it got muddled. if you can give an example of bisexuals "tearing into the pan community" that's actually unjustified, id love to hear (the "pan community" shouldn't be separated from the rest of the bi community anyway)

[@Filminformer1984]

1:31 When you wear a purse because none of your tops work.

[@JLitt-us4vs]

You people do realize its not a “dont say gay” bill😂

[@craigime]

Don't try to use logic with these kind of people

[@JLitt-us4vs]

@@craigime its as if they are just straight up lying…

[@craigime]

@@JLitt-us4vs they have to be... I'd hate to think they're this dumb

[@domenic9021]

Bottom line is it's rude and gross to express publicly what you do in your bed

[@12Kyra121]

Preach. Why is everyone labeling it? I don't get it. If I like someone I like them. Why should anyone tell people all these private intimate details? Why would they want to?

[@domenic9021]

@@12Kyra121 agreed 100%

[@lindaclauson3187]

Never heard of pansexual until recently to me pansexual is the same as bisexual I am heterosexual and that is what I have always known anyone who dates both sexes is bisexual

[@ironface76f]

🙌🏿🙌🏿💪🏾

[@alabamamothman2986]

this is just lunacy. there is no lgbtx chromosomes. just be yourself and be proud of it.

[@bridgettehiggins8710]

Omg, what???. I'm seriously getting BURNED OUT on all this mess.

[@jackjines3461]

Bridgette, oh I'm with you. There seems to be a lot of people that need to get a life. This is insane! It's no wonder they stick together sane people don't want them around. Whack jobs need to stick with whack jobs. I don't see God letting this go on much longer and hope this segment of people find him before it's too late.

[@MrBrokenwrenches]

@@jackjines3461 definitely invoke the name of the pro genocide and slavery guy in your argument lol

[@MrBrokenwrenches]

@@jackjines3461 god will do as much as he did during the holocaust whis is absolutely nothing lol

[@skyjack8541]

FM radio frequencies put out better sound than AM stations. AM stations sucks. I hate even hearing it.

[@cherisenunez2530]

This is something I have been verbalizing my entire life when asked 'what's your type?' My answer was always absolutely nothing to do with the container and wholly to do with the spirit inside. I always thought that's how everyone was and how that's how things should be - that book/cover thing. It's still hard for me to see it differently; I have a straight child, a bi child, and very likely a lesbian child. At almost 47 there's a label for it.

[@UltimateKyuubiFox]

A very useful term for you might be ‘demisexual’. It means one who requires an emotional connection in order to feel sexual attraction.

[@robb5270]

Wow! Maybe at 47 I can introduce you to the term friend or even best friend…as you can have a emotional relationship with that person…see the spirit of life is to reproduce and therefore you need the opposite sex for that.

[@jjmend5783]

Pan sexual is being attracted to bread, which is pan in Spanish.

[@DS-nq1dg]

We need a title or label for everything nowadays.

[@shineayandrews1869]

It’s shameful that this is what PBS airs. When I was growing up it was actual educational shows that taught you a range of things including new languages.

[@yurif4n]

Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to be or say pansexual. These are labels for other people

[@paulettelamontagne7153]

@@shineayandrews1869 yup its insane. Trying to be analytical and go all in depth about an Abomination and a perversion it just amazes me

[@rowil3963]

Just consolidate it to one term, ITSexual

[@vitocorleone8323]

@@paulettelamontagne7153 what you don't remember all the times Malcolm X mentioned pan sexuality when you read his book and just how much he said that's what was gonna help? 🤣

[@tedbundywastheultimatechad8400]

It used to be called "bi-sexual". What happened?

[@craigime]

Sanity has departed from society

[@CraftyVegan]

Eh, the Big Mouth definition of pansexual isn't the definition that I would have chosen to represent Pansexuality... Yeah, you can like tacos and burritos, but burritos that were labeled as tacos when they were young are still burritos, and tacos that were labeled as burritos are still tacos and still fall under the binary category and are still included under the "bisexual attraction" header. Where pansexuality differs is more like how I enjoy tacos and burritos, but I also like chimichangas, taco salads, french fries, burgers, milkshakes, falafel, stuffed mushrooms, cake, pie, and really just whatever food is available, provided I'm in the mood for it and it's available. (I think my favorite, most succinct explanation of pan is "I like holes") Trans women are still women, no matter where they are in their journey, and trans men are still men no matter where **they** are in their journey as well. The 'pan' part comes with including that you enjoy gender-nonconforming people, such as those who identify with nonbinary pronouns, including neopronouns and/or gender fluid, genderqueer, and everyone not directly identifying as "she" or "he". I'm sure that they meant well by including trans people when they implied that being pan means liking binary trans people, regardless of where they are transitionally, but it comes off as icky and tone-deaf and not just a little bit "othering".

[@OneKauz]

I see this comment section is curated... Define woman 👩🤔👀😏😳🤪

[@L0st.p4ntom]

Amazing how we pansexuals are attracted to many people not caring about their biological gender, only for their heart. We have no limits 💖💛💙

[@faequeenluna5739]

belogical sex but i agree

[@NiteDriv3r]

Called deluded Gaes

[@habibikebabtheiii2037]

Kids tooo🎉

[@YuriCatqwq]

@@habibikebabtheiii2037what do you mean with that

[@dc-k4868]

I know this is an English, not American cultural reference, but the first queer cultural reference I can remember was the naked civil servant. Not pansexual though, I'm not sure it's as widespread as a term here in the UK.

[@wyntahb3968]

It's bisexual that's it it's the same thing.. People just the term Pan because it's popular but it's the same as bi

[@mencken8]

A: When one has relations with kitchen utensils.

[@pprehn5268]

Pan means "All" Like Pantheism, so pan-sexuality could easily have a range of fetishes way beyond anything talked about.

[@captainpearly3994]

P Prehn.. I get so confused by all these labels . Does Pan mean you can love or get turned on by people and objects like a doll or a car? Someone that said they were Pan at a party and said it means everything goes. At the time I thought "everything goes" meant positions and roleplaying during sex. Now saying your Pan is a trend but I wonder.

[@LaineyBug2020]

Seems like squares and rectangles. A square is a type of rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square. Pan is a type of Bi, but Bi isn't really Pan...

[@antonioburgess2489]

Isn't this just bisexual..🤔

[@Swishy_Blue]

Some people have a type. You know, strong type, quiet type, butch type, etc... Pan is me knowing I don't have a type. Every type is sexy in their own way, on their own terms.

[@OrangeySky11]

Swishy Blue Now I get it, thanks! It means OVERsexed.

[@jesuscorona3562]

i want people to recognize me as a pansexual unicorn that's a travesty, heterosexual female-male. don't judge!

[@ryan49805]

😂 💯

[@Mr.Robert1]

My third and final comment people's sexuality does not have to be brought out of the bedroom and broadcast on the internet there's absolutely no reason for it whatever you do in the privacy of your bedroom as long as it's consensual and nobody is getting hurt I suppose that's okay no reason to have it all over the internet

[@tecpaocelotl]

Good episode. Roger from American Dad is Pansexual. Him from Power Puff Girls is based on the leader of the Blue Meanies from Beatles' Yellow Submarine. Good article that best describe me is "Yes I'm Pansexual And No Let's Not" By Susan S.

[@MonsieurBooyah]

Dean Pelton from Community gets specifically called a "Pansexual Imp"

[@tecpaocelotl]

@@MonsieurBooyah I don't want to put a label on him other than politician since that's how he came out as. Lol.

[@Kayla-ly8rm]

I just found the Susan S. article you mentioned, and much like this video and people's personal definitions in these comments, it helped me better understand the difference between bi & pan *reeeally* well.

[@sarahannwagner]

Unreal. This is PBS. We are in serious trouble... we are beyond infiltrated.

[@wilmars9146]

This is MADNESS and CONFUSION!.

[@bread19742000]

So I guess we are going to make it up as we go ?

[@laexploradoraaaXD]

Thanks for using bi+ which I feel is the best way to express that bisexuality, pansexuality, queerness, etc are all related

[@1totheright]

Sounds like a polite way of labeling a freak.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

I didn’t know HIM from ‘The Powerpuff Girls’ was a Queer Icon. But then again, so is every Disney Movie Villain. I like Maleficent.

[@naudalyke]

I'm sorry, please educate me if I'm wrong, but every explanation of pansexual has always sounded biphobic and made bi people out to be prejudice. "Bi ppl don't date trans, nb, they have a preference" when a majority don't. Bi no lean is a thing.

[@YuriCatqwq]

Here are the definitions how I learned them: Pansexual: attraction regardless of gender, we focus on other things like personality Bisexual: attraction to two or more genders, there can be preferences but there don’t have to be, it’s nonbinary and trans inclusive

[@tcguerrero5476]

Bisexuality = attraction to my gender and not my gender. If you must have two categories, there you have it. The “not my gender” category can be as big or as small as it suits whoever identifies as bisexual. They aren’t oppositional.

[@KittySnicker]

I’m sorry but the word “Pansexual” makes me want to joke about Cookware

[@Mr.Robert1]

I would like to know where all this bisexuality came from. The chemicals in the food that we eat. The chemicals in the air we breathe. The chemicals in the water that we drink. A change has certainly happened over the years and it's not a matter of coming out of the closet. There's definitely more now then what used to be. Every time they sample the drinking water they find all kinds of medications. Antidepressants Antibiotics, people are consuming things now for the past 50 years that has never been done before I'm convinced that's where this change has come from. Pick up a bag of any processed food that people eat on a regular basis. Look at the laundry list of chemicals that are in there. You can't tell me that's not changing People overtime,not only sexually, mentally, and physically as well.

[@AaronBornAgain]

It’s being funded by Open Societies Foundation. Which is a Soros Fund Management program. That’s where a lot of the gender affirming propaganda is coming from. As for the chemical stuff, it’s most likely deliberate as well but I’m not as sure. You are right though, we are being poisoned.

[@martinamartin418]

God created us as man and woman

[@gardenthefermentingsound6218]

Or more people feel safe to be themselves now

[@Mr.Robert1]

@@gardenthefermentingsound6218 Whatever floats your boat I've been around for 61 years come October I've seen a lot in my lifetime including Going To War in 1991 the world we live in has taken a change for the worse as time goes by it's amazing that was still here

[@Liitebulb]

If you ever opened an ancient history book you would know it was before christ

[@zombiestory6353]

and this is just as real as the heteronormative hill I'm going to be buried on.

[@bustedloads9045]

Does anyone else find peoples obsession over themselves and the constant need for validation off putting?

[@bobbyallen7977]

It's called idolatry

[@tudormiller887]

I always thought I was Bisexual through my teens & my 20s. Now aged 50, I'm 100% Pansexual & Solosexual. ❤

[@Eyelohim]

Sitting on the couch at home makes one "Couchsexual"

[@mayareichenbach3790]

i see pansexuality as attraction regardless of gender and bisexual as attraction where gender plays a factor, the attraction is different for different genders

[@matthewjackson9260]

Let's be honest, what you are attracted to can never be defined outside of your individuality. Two people in the same "sexuality" can be attracted to entirely different people. Stop focusing on what "sexuality" you fall under and start focusing on yourself as an individual. As long as you are describing yourself with a label that others use you will never feel truly accepted. Start talking with people who disagree with you and learn to be yourself without any labels that give you a false identity. None of these talks on "sexuality" matter, but you do.

[@AaronBornAgain]

Why is the an advertisement on my feed? Weird..

[@lynb2039]

I. JUST. DON'T. GIVE. A. SHIT about other's intimate, and PRIVATE sexual preferences, or activities, and frankly, I. AM. SICK. OF. PEOPLE. PUBLICALLY. PROCLAIMING. IN EVER. CHANGING. AND. TRENDING. SLANG. THAT. THEY. ARE. SPECIAL. They aren't. Always trying to take center stage and draw attention to themselves. Ridiculous outliers.

[@lohphat]

I’m pansexual, I only sleep with the kitchen staff.

[@mateo61323]

We just got to slap a label on everything 🤦‍♂️

[@pj61114]

Be sure to wear Sunscreen during outdoor displays of yourselves.

[@aristotleasparaguspodcast1129]

It was to my impression that most people in Ancient Greece were pansexual, also Roger on American Dad

[@wyzemann]

@Aristotle Asparagus Podcast Are you referring to the multitude of enslaved or the highly powerful elite. Remember, enslaved people did whatever their oppressors demanded regardless of what they preferred sexually or otherwise.

[@jeanettesdaughter]

It’s bullshit. I’m about being a woman, Janelle. Like my mother and my grandmother and my aunts and all those women Ive loved and studied and listened to because they’ve added to my life. I get to determine myself, not you, not trends, not the screen, not society, not the government. I. Me. And it’s a singular identity that likes sex with men and I like it. I don’t always like the way I’m treated as a Black woman by absolutely everyone including the lgbtq community but Because I choose me first, I can handle all that. Or die trying! So actually I’m not all about my sexuality but my individuality and my capacity to connect, to engage with people. I call it unbreakable. I don’t like tacos or burritos, I like pho. Carry on. Love your performance! Talent.

[@craigime]

A black woman like you with any kind of individuality is dangerous to these kind of people. They hate you with a passion

[@TheJaeMan]

1. It's make believe nonsense. 2. I wouldn't use "big mouth" as evidence that something is "popular"

[@JohnDoe-cm6jf]

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