How we had social and political discourses in the 80s versus how we have them now.
@DashDrones3 жыл бұрын
The TV and Media continue to make things worse. I love how this group are actually discussing this topic properly. People's judgement is clouded far more these days..
@spidyman88533 жыл бұрын
Most of them shown on the clip were youngsters who were sensible and wanted to get on for life's sake
@johnmorley68443 жыл бұрын
Surely the media can not work any harder to hide all the rape gangs and stuff from the natives. I don't see how they can do any more to hide the problems of suspicious road traffic accidents and racist attacks against Brits in their own country.
@DeezN18923 жыл бұрын
@@johnmorley6844 racist attacks lol
@LeighRichards273 жыл бұрын
No 'social media' then - so people actually discussed things calmly and reasonably!
@jennytaylor33243 жыл бұрын
Yep. It's more about labels than ever now, except the labels have changed!
@musicguy203 жыл бұрын
Social media has opened the world to everyone. I would only experience a person from the Middle East if they came to my town and actually talked to me but I have so many friends from the Middle East and Asia and all over the world now and we all talk civil learning about others cultures. I think what you are referring to are those trolls who get a rise off of disrupting the peace. Which isn’t everyone on social media.
@DIETRICHCICCONE3 жыл бұрын
Instead, there were feral right-wing tabloids that sold by the million to a largely illiterate/intolerant/ignorant/provincial society.
@mrpedrobraga3 жыл бұрын
@@musicguy20 Hey person, thank you. The insistence on pessimism regarding technology (that their generation itself created) started to get on me. I know social media toxicity as much as y'all do, yet, I can not ignore everything good that came with it. “People went out and made friends more,” “People weren't depressed back then” are the two things I've heard more and I can't stop thinking about people like me that noone ever wanted to be friends with, and about how many friends met trough the internet. How many things were created because of it. The internet is also such a powerful tool for achieving things that I would never be able to. I was born before the internet, and I would still be an invisible depressed man, not understanding my own mind (I'm autistic) and why I don't have friends and can't understand people, without any changes in society because of how I look like and came from And now, I am a fucking game developer researching mental health conditions around the world in order to help those invisible people everywhere, heck yeah! I came here by watching videos of teens hanging out in the 80s without cellphones and yeah, they seem to be having fun... But I can't not think about the kids who weren't there on camera. We can only see what people choose to show of the past.
@agfagaevart3 жыл бұрын
Say that to the skinheads!
@seandelap62683 жыл бұрын
Looking at this the standard of debate has certainly deteriorated since this time.
@Edgel-in6bs3 жыл бұрын
Eh? The programme is an aftermath of racial rioting.
@DeezN18923 жыл бұрын
The 80s was full of people on the streets kicking the shite out of each other for a number of reasons
@nicky290319773 жыл бұрын
Political correctness has changed everything...
@Edgel-in6bs3 жыл бұрын
@@nicky29031977 indeed. The world is a much better place than it was then, especially for minorities.
@jamesbedugraham80562 жыл бұрын
Common i believe that we are meant to live together Man woman and even people of different colours. I am however proud that The UK has come a long way and is now more diverse than ever before.
@KiatHuang3 жыл бұрын
That was fascinating! The way the kid's spoke, their accents, the sentences they constructed, the pace, the patience and straightforwardness - quite different to nowadays. Would be interesting to see (a) a modern version of this show and (b) the same kids back as adults 40 years later, reflecting on what they thought then, how youth culture mattered and changed, plus what they think today's kids can learn from yesterday's kids.
@knoxyish Жыл бұрын
innit
@ajs414 ай бұрын
@@knoxyish like, innit, like, innit
@peakyedits89633 жыл бұрын
although it could be argued that it isn't as bad anymore, it is scary that we're still having these exact conversations 40 years later...
@SMichaelDeHart3 жыл бұрын
And what is even more sad...we'll still be having it in 40 more years.
@spidyman88533 жыл бұрын
The trouble is, it never goes away. You just need to bring in a law to Alleviate it
@lizclegg75563 жыл бұрын
Not really. I think the conversation is much less intelligent now.
@mrpedrobraga3 жыл бұрын
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK Im sorry, but the 80s were 40 years ago???? YEAH, IT CHECKS OUT oh my I feel so old. and I was born in the 2000s
@mrpedrobraga3 жыл бұрын
@@lizclegg7556 I wouldn't call anything a conversation
@lizclegg75563 жыл бұрын
They are all so intelligent, aware and thoughtful, and make such good points.
@Buddhavibez2 жыл бұрын
Genx
@thehoneyeffect2 жыл бұрын
not all of them
@JGarner.20042 жыл бұрын
Because people were brought up better back thenb
@mattscudder19753 жыл бұрын
This is really sad to think that this was filmed nearly 40 years ago and these young people are coming out with some amazing points that are so hopeful and yet ww’ve hardly move forward at all.
@EgoShredder3 жыл бұрын
Most of their points are retarded and not based in ethnic reality at all. Also many still make the assumption that race = colour and culture.
@DeezN18923 жыл бұрын
@@EgoShredder here comes the ‘race realist’ everyone. Let’s hear his awful takes about people he’s never met
@DB-qj5kt2 жыл бұрын
You wouldn’t have had the racist BLM back then, we’ve unfortunately moved to far the other way.
@EPICFAILKING12 жыл бұрын
@Flydrip Tik Tok Shorts you are clueless AND delusional.
@kevinking76112 жыл бұрын
American racist ancestors come from Europe same thing everywhere they go
@fozziebear263 жыл бұрын
Politicians constantly need us fighting amongst ourselves so that they can tell us they're going to fix everything
@Trekman782 жыл бұрын
Yes they never want our families to become stronger then the royal family so they flood our estates with drugs and guns and mix everyone into one small space and it creates massive problems! Housing estates was created to get people into debts and council estates was created to cause problems with the upper class thefts and crime rates are high, they generate millions from the prison system its all created on purpose, why they dont want you living off free lands they want us all relying off the system
@davestevenson9080 Жыл бұрын
politicians brought all the foreigners here for that very purpose - kalergi plan. they were never here
@AtZero138 Жыл бұрын
My family of Brothers and Sisters are from many races and ethnicity, it's so easy, makes no difference, it's always about being the best person, Rise and more forward... cheers from Huntington Beach CA 🇺🇸..
@yellow1one7 ай бұрын
To this very day!
@jordanhtiffirg19903 жыл бұрын
9:30 you see how he just cut him off when he started talking about racism within the NHS and prisons. Wtf was that about
@DashDrones3 жыл бұрын
What a clever kid, only to be told, 'we don't want to go there'
@spidyman88533 жыл бұрын
Yea
@jordanhtiffirg19903 жыл бұрын
@@DashDrones exactly I wonder why he did that what was the point of having this conversation only for him to be shut down like that when he was making great points
@DashDrones3 жыл бұрын
@@jordanhtiffirg1990 maybe the kid was ahead of his time. Pretty sad that he got shot down by the presenter..
@agfagaevart3 жыл бұрын
He was getting a bit too close for comfort.
@AnthonyD-yy2in2 жыл бұрын
I was 15 years old and living in Bristol in 1981. I grew up around a lot of white people and most were not concerned whether i was mixed race or not.
@Trekman782 жыл бұрын
True mate, i grew up with a few mixed race lads on my estate we was all as one! Cultures are what destroy us!! gang culture creates most problems! Internet has destroyed this earth now
@AtZero138 Жыл бұрын
Mixed Race.. living proof we can just get along..
@angelasmithson52919 ай бұрын
I am mixed race also and have been accepted by many white people too, I was 6 when this was aired. I don't care about anyone's colour or race, have had friends of different races and meet good in every one, it's your inner self that matters more!!😀😇
@sutapasbhattacharya94713 жыл бұрын
At 9:37 the presenter simply cuts off the young man who starts mentioning institutional racism!
@spidyman88533 жыл бұрын
Yep
@billsykes96052 жыл бұрын
Definitely-👍🏻
@tcrijwanachoudhury Жыл бұрын
He is both fit and correct 👍
@Adam-wl8wn3 жыл бұрын
The girl at the end hits the nail on the head and suddenly they need to wrap up the show!
@garethgoldsmith96053 жыл бұрын
i agree, revealing the divide & conquer tactic
@charliewarlie314152 жыл бұрын
Exactly. She acknowledges that white is treated as the norm, as more human, as ‘the step up’
@aloheyio63352 жыл бұрын
@@charliewarlie31415 hear hear
@lilcoffeebandit Жыл бұрын
exactly
@ajs414 ай бұрын
@@charliewarlie31415 White is the norm in the UK, believe it or not.
@ponderer23 Жыл бұрын
Wish we could get all of these people together again today and have another conversation!
@nostalgicnelly76 Жыл бұрын
That would be a great idea!
@aaronjamesmoore7579 ай бұрын
this generation are still alive
@adeelabaig10022 жыл бұрын
Why did the presenter suddenly stop the probably very intelligent young person that ACTUALLY hit the nail on the head stating that racism is very disturbingly prevelant in the NHS and VERY OBVIOUSLY AND STILL IS in the Police Service! What an absolute idiot of a presenter. He only wants to talk about what HE feels comfortable with! Every single young person in the audience are extremely articulate and much more intelligent than many people that I see on T.V today.
@mjh54372 жыл бұрын
How is the NHS racist? Are you mad?
@user-yr2vp6co3q Жыл бұрын
@@mjh5437wake up and still living in la la land keep being oblivious
@DarkAngel251211 ай бұрын
How is it prevalent in the police?
@Oranjee10893 жыл бұрын
I wish we had a where are they now . these people are so intelligent and civil. refreshing
@nateclipps2 жыл бұрын
@Enter channel name this is just gen x… 😭 their not old or dead. My mom was their age during this time. Most are late 50s-60s rn
@nateclipps2 жыл бұрын
@Enter channel name oh sorry!
@nateclipps2 жыл бұрын
@Enter channel name okkk!
@nateclipps2 жыл бұрын
@kyfaydfsoab my mom was born during the late time frame of gen x. Therefor she’s a gen x’er
@ahsanjafri96672 жыл бұрын
Some points I couldn't help but notice. Their speech is more refined then many adults today. The jewish voice was given more representation and authority then the rest, much like today. There was no mention of the Muslim factor, which is wholly different from the discourse on discrimination today. There was no mention of homosexuals, which is wholly different from today. The Irish guy seemed more in tune with the black people then the rest. There seemed to be a type of "innocence" around the whole issue. Just my observations. I could be wrong.
@faisaljrashid2 жыл бұрын
There was no "Muslim Factor" until 9/11 and the ensuing war both in the media and militarily against almost 1/3 of the world let's let the Russians take the blame now
@KiatHuang3 жыл бұрын
Seemed these kids had, collectively, worked out what to do - even if they did not all have the time to agree with it on that short show. To summarise I'd say they accepted racism existed, but focused on tackling the root cause which was prejudice, evidenced by discrimination. And breaking down prejudice by talking to each other, spending time in each other's company at work or play, sharing some of life's experience - practical things, not theorising.
@curewish5742 жыл бұрын
Didn't figure there were so many open minded young people of all nationalities back in the 80's; it would be interesting to see if they still hold those views in 2022 ?
@legacyouternational3052 жыл бұрын
The presenter was the singer in my first ever band. Debut: St Barnabas Church, St Pauls Cray, Orpington.
@ajs414 ай бұрын
Which band?
@goodlife61453 жыл бұрын
Good to see this conversation, I enjoy the Thames channel's content. I believe Britain improved a lot in the ensuing years but one of the problems in the UK has been the importing of USA models and perspectives on race. (Or rather, the 'perspectives' of Marxist-leaning professors - btw I'm neither left wing nor right, personally.) There are points of overlap but the respective histories are very different. In some ways the USA are behind Britain, we should acknowledge the strides that have been made.
@deeallen15262 жыл бұрын
I differ. I think Britain is behind America in lots of ways. Blacks and browns cant be all they can be in Britain. Britain even discriminates agaisnt white immigrants and brits with different accents. That is unheard of in America.
@accountreality19882 жыл бұрын
@@deeallen1526 black and browns would never let white into thier homelands and give them a decent living so why should whites do the same?
@missh.3072 жыл бұрын
What an open honest discussion. 2022 now and people are not even allowed to express their views without censorship!
@Walley284 ай бұрын
Yes because the white people are there to abuse blacks, and it is right that the bad people are told to keep quiet.
@Sammy.LJ58618 ай бұрын
When you’re born on a council estate with a mix of black white and Asian .. none of that matters. We’re all skint and struggling together
@underworldunraveled7 ай бұрын
Facts
@debrablake-h7v26 күн бұрын
So true..... ❤
@Adam-wl8wn3 жыл бұрын
What a shame that this generation knew the answer, yet now they're running the country they seem to have forgotten.
@jessicagousse853 жыл бұрын
They didn't forget. They just chose not to do it.
@divergencefilms2 жыл бұрын
The upper class runs the country - not the ordinary people like these
@unnamed71582 жыл бұрын
@@divergencefilms True those are the ones who force it on us not the average person someone once said can't remember the exact quote but the greater the evil, the greater the power of the individual because when a average person missteps and does something wrong they kill a bug but when a powerful person does it it can be a whole country destroyed or a race.
@missjade29402 жыл бұрын
@@divergencefilms it's like what the last girl said..skinheads + Blacks should collaborate and fight the rich people because they are both in the same boat,(inaccessible amenities, poor housing, poverty etc) and the government has tricked them into hating each other.
@inserter4002 жыл бұрын
The youth of that day were more in touch with the time's than the youth of today 2022 . I was a skinhead in the later part of the 80s, I was never involved in the racist movement, most skinheads were into Ska/ raggae.
@mjh54372 жыл бұрын
Rubbish,most 80s skins were into Oi and Punk.
@inserter4002 жыл бұрын
@@mjh5437 Yeah, I loved oi Oi wasn't a racist music ! Oi was about uniting skinheads and punx .
@tonynasaofficial2 жыл бұрын
This is how it sadly everyone wants to be friends growing up and some even wanna make a difference but soon they learn the truth and the only way I survive is to be corrupted...
@Yasine132 жыл бұрын
People chose to not learn from history, 2022 and most of the world is either the same or worse now
@mjh54372 жыл бұрын
Far worse now.
@Scot_Tz2 жыл бұрын
The Two Tone movement was a beautiful thing.
@inserter4002 жыл бұрын
❤️ 👍
@lynfordcasting7461 Жыл бұрын
Pink leather aside, the presenter is really good. The whole discussion is very interesting and the young contributors are really astute.
@FHIPrincePeter3 жыл бұрын
It's pleasing to see all these youths, they represent the youths I know back in the day, Black , White or Asian there was a sense of unity of Youth, even the Skinheads were mainly non racist, only a few that the media catapulted into the stereotype people think they know today. Back then the Youth were more wise than their parents about race. I had many Asian friends yet had not even heard the world Muslim. I had many White Friends none mutters any racial comments about the Black community. I often wonder what happened . Why has Britain become more segregated today than back in the day? I see the Children of my generation far more segregated than in my day.
@mnkwazi3 жыл бұрын
@ FHI PRince Peter resources.
@east_londonlad89883 жыл бұрын
You didn’t hear Muslim back then because government and MSM agenda was to attack race at that time and not religion, only in 90s it became fashionable and trendy to attack the Islamic faith and Muslim people and not race anymore.
@FHIPrincePeter3 жыл бұрын
@@east_londonlad8988 How do you know that? What made it "fashionable"? That's not what I recall myself, how old were you in the 90's ?
@east_londonlad89883 жыл бұрын
And by the way skinheads were racist, even the ones who claimed to love ska music and reggae and had black friends, they were still racist
@east_londonlad89883 жыл бұрын
FHI Prince Peter watch from 3:00 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJSXoKepmrCflcU
@balance32019 ай бұрын
Divide and rule nothing much has changed
@asingh40252 жыл бұрын
just amazing ... these people ....compared to the generation of today ...is the starkest contrast .... educated ... articulate .... what in the name of GOD happened....... more importantly i started to get a sense of dread as the discussion progressed... an almost "Ooo you mustn't say that " ... it certainly says something about the age we live in that we are to afraid to speak our mind 🤔
@beewisebeestronger62242 жыл бұрын
I'm white, have friends of all creeds, we all understand each other and get along, but were about 30 plus, It seems the issue is those younger , who for whatever reason, need to make everything about them , any issue, even working a 8 hour day seems to be an issue, doesn't matter their ethnicity, its there age and life experience that defines them as , literally whimps
@Stevensonbenson2 ай бұрын
Jesuits happened
@ymotechnopopfan2 жыл бұрын
I wish Discrimination doesn't Exist.
@mjh54372 жыл бұрын
Always has and always will,it`s a normal human condition.
@Stevensonbenson2 ай бұрын
I wish multiculturalism didn’t exist
@mxferro Жыл бұрын
The channel should follow up on a number of these people to see how time ,age, experiences have impacted them.
@FIGHTGAME1002 жыл бұрын
The presenter is Nick Maw from St Mary Cray
@legacyouternational3052 жыл бұрын
james maw
@ultimatemagic2125 Жыл бұрын
The passage of time makes me so sad. I know it shouldn't, it cant be stopped, but it does. I think about it all the time, how I'm getting older, everything changes. It makes me so sad to think all these people in their late teens and early 20's with their entire futures ahead of them at the start of the amazing decade of the 80's are now around 60, older people, their future played out already, in the blink of an eye seemingly. I was 2 in 1981, I'm almost 45 now. I feel mentally 18, but the face that looks back at me in the mirror tells a different story. I hope everybody makes the most of their time, because it rushes by before you know it.
@davejohnson3115 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in England throughout the 80s and 90s and I did get some stick for being black, but for at least the last two decades I've never much bother at all I work with the general public everyday I have done for years, white people I meet even the elderly who could be extremely Prejudice back in the day are lovely people they couldn't be more helpful. People who say it hasn't changed much since 1981 are talking out their ass I'm not saying racism isn't still about I'm just saying it's way better now then what it used to be take it from me. When I think about it the only time I witness racism is on social media.
@DarkAngel251211 ай бұрын
Im white and experienced some racism in the 90s through to 2010 offline. Was rare. There was more early 90s towards white people. It settled by late 90s. Then social media set it all back off. Why I dont know but I feel we've been pushed back race-wise way beyond before I was born as to me there is more racism towards everyone in general now and I didnt really see any racism towards other races growing up. Was rare. I miss the 90s-2010.😢
@donaldmjbart-williams31442 жыл бұрын
There are hundreds and thousands of people in Britain who do not want to be here, but they have no choice. Colonialism was responsible for the destruction of their country economy, industries, ripping of their minerals including the dead of millions which has for hundreds of years led to continuous discrimination and hardship. Until you are prepared to equal the playing field of wealth distribution, I am afraid that migration will continue. Western population needs education and an historical prospective of how the UK came to be what it is today.
@mjh54372 жыл бұрын
Most of the colonised countries had practically NO economy at all before they were colonised by Europeans.😁😆🤣
@charlesadeoye14042 жыл бұрын
@@mjh5437 you ungrateful so and so
@northernking26042 жыл бұрын
@@mjh5437 nonsense.
@Re-Tech Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but you need to actually read history from an actual history book before inventing a version of history to fit your warped and jaded narrative of the world. The kids in this video from the 1980s would and do put the current generation to shame, and it shows how far we have regressed and dumed down since that time. A time when ACTUAL FACTS MATTERED and even the toughest of debates could be held with rational thinking in a civilised manor. Maybe the theory that civilisation has peaked and we are on a slope of decline holds some merit. Each and every young person in this video showed better critical thinking abilities than most of our current word leaders. That's how far we have fallen
@sbaby-kg8hn Жыл бұрын
Well said
@detectivescootercycle22783 жыл бұрын
Not too much changed in 40 odd yrs then
@MrCaptainRoscoe3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@marktaurus2062 жыл бұрын
@kyfaydfsoab Racism Is a deep issue in the UK its just many sit in denial of it.
@mistofoles Жыл бұрын
@9:36 - "Quick ! Cut to somebody else ! He's starting to speak the truth !"
@amillionviews8883 жыл бұрын
03:50 Exactly, thats the point I've been making. My parents were asked to come over and work and that they did. I would have preferred to be in the Ganga fields in Jah land 🤣
@mjh54372 жыл бұрын
It`s really cheap now to fly to the West Indies and live there,why don`t you just emigrate if you hate England so much?...Oh yeah,no free stuff up for grabs there.
@kristinaking4680 Жыл бұрын
@kyfaydfsoab everything is clear in his words.
@jakethemuss56782 жыл бұрын
*40 years later and young people can't even decide what gender they are*
@bmwbmw3553 Жыл бұрын
Right now we live in bad life .
@traveljourneysoftitu2054 Жыл бұрын
Give me a time machine, I would like to go back to this time😢
@east_londonlad89883 жыл бұрын
Why did they not bring a single Asian onto this show? They have a Irish, black, Italian and Jew on the show but not a single Asian
@spidyman88533 жыл бұрын
East_London Lad They did..... at 16:35 check her out mate
@jman46683 жыл бұрын
There's an Asian woman at the end
@l0v3lyniaa2 жыл бұрын
we're talking about the uk here . poc percentages are low as hell .
@kristinaking4680 Жыл бұрын
Asian worked that time 😊
@east_londonlad8988 Жыл бұрын
@@spidyman8853 you’re right, she is Asian as they come, I don’t know why I thought she was Caribean.
@borispugmomdelyth6244 Жыл бұрын
What’s the program called?
@rupertfunk49353 жыл бұрын
Really switched on bunch off youngsters who will all now be in their 60’s, like myself, same era!
@Goodvibes-pq4dz2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it interesting how our problems repeat throughout the generations. We ask ourselves, where we’re heading as a race of humans and the truth is; around in circles.
@mayena2 жыл бұрын
14:46-15:03 that is Colourism/Shadeism.
@ianoliver72712 жыл бұрын
I'm British and about six years ago I bought a motorhome in Haines City, Florida. The idea was that me, my wife and daughter would become American citizens and settle in Florida. We loved Florida, especially the weather . . . but . . . after having made several journeys back and forward to Florida, it was becoming quite evident; the white Americans just didn't get on with the black Americans - it was a racist divide. It was sorry to see but this was reality. I eventually sold the motorhome and we decided better stay in the UK.
@mjh54372 жыл бұрын
Yes,America is racist,the blacks hate the whites far more often than whites hate blacks....That`s a black problem not a white problem.
@Traveljetsetter9542 жыл бұрын
Excatly I am a mixed race american with 1st generation luxembourgan background my mother is from there and I am looking into getting a luxembourgish passport soon I experienced hardcore racism in the part of the United States I am from its a different type of racism its nice racism I dealt it
@nicelol5241 Жыл бұрын
@@mjh5437HAHAHAHAHA, that’s a good joke, and why do you think some blacks hate whites?
@nicelol5241 Жыл бұрын
@@Traveljetsetter954that’s xenophobia
@kristinaking4680 Жыл бұрын
@@nicelol5241 that’s obviously. Because whites enslaved black people.
@bruji2001Ай бұрын
I was a young white teen with my black best mate caught up in Livepool 8 riots. We were both born here therefore british with 4 hardworking parents. We had a decent life in my city. Liverpool❤One Love❤xx
@fatimaahmad36812 жыл бұрын
8:25 - 9:08 very well said!
@jpk503 жыл бұрын
These young people are very smart and speak very well. Todays youth? Thick. Sad really.
@jpk503 жыл бұрын
@mobley Mobley You seem a tad emotional. Young people today? They are lost and angry. Rightly so. Break down of families, religion, toxic social media, cancel culture, covid etc. I wonder, is there a generation out there who don't read anymore?
@truthhurts47322 жыл бұрын
True
@ymotechnopopfan2 жыл бұрын
@@jpk50 not all youths today are bad.
@DarkAngel251211 ай бұрын
Funny the Jewish guy actually looks like Jesus.
@frankendreads8 ай бұрын
And from this, you can now understand the coming together that took place in the late 80s and 90s We have forgotten these very important lessons of the truth around this matter Wokism, cancelling etc has only aggravated the situation, denied any cross discussions and understanding
@northernking26042 жыл бұрын
A most civilised bunch. Have this conversation today things have actually got WORSE!
@flatlinerking3 жыл бұрын
Man I was really enjoying this... But that 80s editing, like what is the rush?
@sutapasbhattacharya94713 жыл бұрын
Yes, like at 9:37 the presenter simply cuts off the young man who starts talking about institutional racism.
@mjh54372 жыл бұрын
@@sutapasbhattacharya9471 Same way people of all ages get "cancelled" now if they talk about the stupidity of Institutional Wokeism.
@flatlinerking2 жыл бұрын
@@mjh5437 I mean I'd like to see a study on that? But funnily seeing your other comments you see to have no problem with proven institutional racism having affected multiple generations, with zero discussion on that impact that has led to us being where we are now.... If being woke is just opposing that then I have no problem with that, unless you claim being woke is something else?
@stuartkelly31063 жыл бұрын
Wow look at young people able to argue....
@officialtruvotru-druvevoch70492 жыл бұрын
Y'all owe us Jamaican's reparations start from there!
@mjh54372 жыл бұрын
Okay,as soon as the British get reparations from the Romans and Vikings and French who invaded Britain we`ll sort "y`all" out.
@nicelol5241 Жыл бұрын
@@mjh5437HAHAHAHA, you so funny dude
@kristinaking4680 Жыл бұрын
@@mjh5437 you also forgot to mention Anglo, saxons, utas and friziens
@anthonydanielgittins1864 Жыл бұрын
Yeah...now ask the Arab slavers, Romans, Greeks, Egyptians etc. The firat black slave owner in the US? Was a black man!
@original_arabian Жыл бұрын
The Jewish brother was well spoken.
@yellow1one7 ай бұрын
He's from the Jewish Board of Deputies. Today they are busy getting people and organisations canceled for criticizing Israel.
@Kyteasahigh3 ай бұрын
Remember England had signs? “NoBlacksNoIrishNoDogsAllowed”
@illegalsmirf9 ай бұрын
Always a J w present to guide everyone on proper morals
@simonyip5978 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many of them have the same opinions and attitudes 40 years later?
@joelgoldsmith4747 Жыл бұрын
Great question!!
@MrDanielfff7773 жыл бұрын
This is great
@buddha17363 жыл бұрын
It’s very much real today, switch on the TV it’s full of old raging grey haired Conservative Gammons, giving their narcissistic opinion.
@sinecuris71733 жыл бұрын
Isnt gammon supposed to be super offensive, like oppressive words
@buddha17363 жыл бұрын
@@sinecuris7173 No, it’s a joint of Pork.
@beautifulspirit74203 жыл бұрын
@@buddha1736 talking joints of pork?
@mjh54372 жыл бұрын
Switch on the TV and you`re far more likely to see blacks doing all the whingeing and moaning now.
@tcrijwanachoudhury Жыл бұрын
"Gammons" 💀
@MrTastiesFoodReview2 ай бұрын
London feels like it’s the 90’s. Surrey on the other hand feels like is permanently stuck in the early 80’s.
@Ritff666l-e9eАй бұрын
London now ?
@junior24048 ай бұрын
Last girl hit the nail on the head.
@mayena2 жыл бұрын
3:01-3:09 so according to her the moniker ‘Black is beautiful’ is farcical, why is it so?.
@DarkAngel251211 ай бұрын
I understood. Basically it wass highlighting it which implies it isnt beautiful but that they need to be told it is to boost confidence. Or that its seen as better. Could be taken either way. To Americans they do this often and dont realise how corny it comes off. Race wasnt an issue for us in real life so these corny slogans seem almost patronising
@mayena11 ай бұрын
@@DarkAngel2512 I don’t what is your heritage but the ‘Black is Beautiful’ was first coined by Life Magazine for their cover photo of entirely dark skinned female models back in the mid 1960’s at the height of the American civil rights movement. It was meant as a positive uplift meant for the community. Maybe the young woman felt excluded, probably thinking it should be inclusive?.
@8track8294 ай бұрын
I would love to go back to a time when people of a divers nature, can discuss Racial politics calmly. Listening, thinking and having the ability to change each others minds.
@pamills662 жыл бұрын
Why is jewish man dominating the debate and given so much airtime?
@unnamed71582 жыл бұрын
I'm so confused I see this comment a lot but I don't get it I'm young though
@DarkAngel251211 ай бұрын
Because he speaks the most sense. He may have also been sommeone known and asked to come on to give some intelligent feedback incase the rest of the audience couldn't
@bettyboossister3918 Жыл бұрын
People were so polite then...😊😊😊
@jimmyTooFreshh Жыл бұрын
It’s Britain, they’re Polite
@johnpalmer535711 ай бұрын
@@jimmyTooFreshh WAS Britain. It's more like North Africa, now
@ryancross63422 жыл бұрын
Then acid house came along and everyone from every background loved each other 😊
@mjh54372 жыл бұрын
Or pretended to because they were too stoned to think about it.
@DarkAngel251211 ай бұрын
@kyfaydfsoabI grew up with all ethnicities as best mates and that was through the 80s and we never even thought about it.
@Tigrezebra Жыл бұрын
I agree that women are more prejudiced than men. There seems to be an almost competitive aspect to it
@Titanicdork13311 ай бұрын
14:20 is that princess diana?
@raypitcher97672 ай бұрын
A lot of these issues were made prevalent during the early 1980's, in order to supposedly re educate pupils by forcing the ideas of multiculturism into a brave new utopia. During the height of the Brixton riots there remained a lot of diversity and tensions built up. All of a sudden the word 'Racist' appeared, especially to quell the opinions of white people and those who didn't automatically buy into the dramatic change imposed upon them. Generally this path led to a social breakdown and the accepted opinion that Liberal or Left wing ethics was to be the norm in society. The rejection of this has been the true divide in society and the initial root of where we end up today. Not everything is Black or White, and Individualism has been the target of oppression.
@Ritff666l-e9eАй бұрын
I grew up in London then, multiracial was completely normal
@MrMystriАй бұрын
Great debate and everyone respectful
@owenorders52022 жыл бұрын
That guy from the Jewish Board of Deputies 6.38..how did they get Jesus to appear on the show?
@legacyouternational3052 жыл бұрын
The presenter's name anyone? Is it Nick Maw
@legacyouternational3052 жыл бұрын
James Maw
@zippy_uk1046 Жыл бұрын
Now imagine holding this debate in Gaza 2023
@mayena2 жыл бұрын
13:14-14:17 personally I overheard this kind of hypocrisy in my younger years.
@VincentRE79 Жыл бұрын
Some things in life never change.
@callyodmedia22 жыл бұрын
Nothing much has changed!
@LeeTisdale-z9x10 ай бұрын
You think it bad then well ?
@dang373 Жыл бұрын
what an interesting start of something. pitty it was a short tv show
@itsallaconsparrowcy62513 жыл бұрын
This is gold
@beyondthestars42992 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they are still alive
@mistertobs40443 жыл бұрын
"We should be fighting the rich people"
@soulrebel25313 жыл бұрын
Wee girl at the end talking sense
@mjh54372 жыл бұрын
Rich people keep the country afloat,Britain would be flat broke without them.
@tcrijwanachoudhury Жыл бұрын
@@mjh5437 they also helped a lot during the pandemic didnt they?
@mattylamb91944 ай бұрын
@@tcrijwanachoudhury - pandemic policies were a disaster. Shut down the country for a horrendously over-hyped virus
@osheruzzi5452 ай бұрын
Watching this in 2024 and nothing has changed.
@jfilm74663 жыл бұрын
2:25 Look at Luton today.
@jasonayres3 жыл бұрын
Is the moderator wearing a pink leather jacket? I'm sorry, tolerance has it's limits! 🤭It was 1981, I suppose.
@jamesbowman81383 жыл бұрын
It was still the disco age.
@jasonayres3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbowman8138 Those were the days! (Those were the days I never attended the disco 😁)
@loonylinda2 жыл бұрын
that was a good presenter...i wonder if he continued?
@aloheyio63352 жыл бұрын
Why loony?
@DIETRICHCICCONE3 жыл бұрын
The general population back then had their strings pulled by the 'popular' press.
@mjh54372 жыл бұрын
Still do,but now the mass media are all dopey-woke kneeling grovelling loony Lefties.
@nemokat096 ай бұрын
I can't but notice how accurately Family Guy manages to represent British characters 😂😂😂
@buskingkarma25032 жыл бұрын
It's difficult to watch this,without laughing at the 80s style of these people👀 look at there hair and clothes,and the way they act!😆 😂😂😂
@MrMarcy76 Жыл бұрын
Better than the numpties today who can’t string a sentence together ‘you get me, innit’
@sirphineasluciusambercromb91142 жыл бұрын
What I see here at age 50 is British people bravely and honestly discussing racism as a social ill. What moderns see is a bunch of unfashionably dressed birds and yobs using socially offensive terms like "coloured." The content is completely obscured and disregarded.
@mjh54372 жыл бұрын
If you were a bit older than 50 you would be old enough to remember that in those days most blacks would be far more offended by being described as "black" than "coloured"....They`re always looking for new ways to be "offended" so its basically a waste of time kneeling & grovelling and trying to make them happy because they never will be.
@DarkAngel251211 ай бұрын
Coloured isnt an offensive term. Neither is halfcast or mixed-race. These are common terms amongst black people. Africans use the first two to this day. And its only recently people are saying mixed-race is racist.
@seanrm Жыл бұрын
Some of the last of the O-Level generation; products of the analogue age and not yet subjugated by the digital false dawn.
@mattylamb91944 ай бұрын
O levels lasted till something like 1988
@nicky290319772 ай бұрын
Everyone in that program mentioned the importance of integrating and accepting diversity. I wonder what they'd think of LGBT rights (gays marrying and adopting kids etc) being legalized in the 2010's? I'm sure most of those "anti racists" were probably homophobic aswell.
@Ritff666l-e9eАй бұрын
Some probably never cared about anyone marrying if they wanna have normal lives like other normal people have at it
@kenray9692Ай бұрын
That Indian girl knew what she was talking about
@ianholloway95553 жыл бұрын
Open borders for Israel.
@cooldude46433 жыл бұрын
based
@Peter-ov6xh3 жыл бұрын
And the right of return for all Palestinians throughout the world!
@alex-sv8ru3 жыл бұрын
Shut up leftist
@ianholloway95553 жыл бұрын
@@alex-sv8ru *Third position, and no.
@thesmirkinggrape3 жыл бұрын
@@ianholloway9555based Ian
@sambensley3534 Жыл бұрын
What happens when you cut yourself, what’s the colour of your blood