What Is Soldier's Best Secondary?

[@nich3897]

Buff banners, telling all they business. Sit in 2fort and be their own star witness

[@fogglebottom]

lyrical genius

[@youngdepp]

Do you see the instigator? Yeah he’s right there, fuck around get the whole team losing for years

[@SnugWugs137]

Yes

[@PREGAMEDISCHARGEENJOYER]

Some times I wanna play the flame retardant Scout

[@poyloos4834]

Brother

[@John_Smith_Dumfugg]

The Righteous Bison has an incredibly broken hidden stat that I never see anybody talk about: + if you use the bison for long enough, eventually everyone on the server will switch to it

[@bow-89]

+ Respect

[@melo-7904]

unless if they are a f2p who hasn't unlocked it yet this is a self call out post

[@starboy3735]

I just simply dont

[@Gusenichka925]

Its funny when 1 soldier with the bison kills people Its funnier when 12 do

[@cetadel6597]

It also has a -99% accuracy hidden stat. And No Killstreak.

[@witty_comeback]

Personally I just can never stop using the shotgun. Pyros these days are a lot better than they used to be and it's always funny hitting them with a rocket, watching them backup to reflect the next rocket and then taking out the shotgun to punish them from a range they can't get me from. It is old reliable but if you're like me and still coming to grips with tricky rockets pyros can't reflect then the shotgun is an amazing secondary.

[@elmaxoTF2]

i cannot blame a man for using good ol' reliable

[@coatedpikachu8816]

but thats plain annoying

[@elbowremovalservice]

@@elmaxoTF2 I can

[@dashthatonedude]

@@coatedpikachu8816 you most likely have flares so use them if you’re finding it hard to counter shotgun Soldiers who walked away from you. Personally, I love pulling out my own shotgun when a Soldier bring theirs because I find it funny to have duel (I dont rec doing this because Soldier have higher health pool than Pyro). Final advice is dont use scorch shot, practice your aim with flares instead

[@coatedpikachu8816]

@@dashthatonedude a) scorch shog pisses people off and its funny. however mine is still named scorch shit.. b) i dont find it hard, simply a little annoying. i just shoot my scorch shit and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt

[@johannesgutenburg9837]

manntreads are actually sometimes used in competitive highlander to push into swiftwater second by ubering a soldier into red's house, since pyro can't airblast him away

[@elmaxoTF2]

I actually didn't know that, noted!

[@sigmapeter2459]

@@elmaxoTF2 I'd say mantreads is better than anything if you have a pocket med on you as you cant get blasted away easily during übers but yeah you need a medic first

[@DannyCheezits]

@@sigmapeter2459 if your using your secondary exclusively make an uber push better against pyro, why not just use a shotgun and kill the pyro while ubered?

[@VagueCastle649]

@@DannyCheezits Because that wastes precious uber time to destroy that wrangled sentry. Uber time management is important.

[@Mikeroony]

You've been blessed

[@geonsilberlicht4632]

I am not sure if I am the only one who does that, but I really like playing with the rocket jumper, the stock shotgun, and the escape plan. It feels like playing something between Scout and Fat Scout. I call it Rocket Scout.

[@elmaxoTF2]

honestly sounds like it could be a bunch of fun lol

[@iwiffitthitotonacc4673]

The CTF2W mod actually buffs the RJer to fit this playstyle better - killing someone with another weapon refills its clip.

[@geonsilberlicht4632]

@@elmaxoTF2 Maybe try it out and tell me how you liked it :) P.S. If you are good at market gardening, that shovel might be a good alternative, and if there is a point to capture, I generally like using the pain train with jumper weapons.

[@joeyjonquantaviusjr9927]

It’s called pogo scout apparently

[@8stormy5]

Surprisingly effective if you're good at rocket jumping as you get to blow yourself into meatshot range even faster than the scout can, and have fuckoff amounts of health to do it with

[@HopCatSmash]

its all fun and games with the gunboats until you have 1000 hours on soldier and still have absolutely no idea how to use the shotgun. also i just played you tonight on badwater :)

[@flashter6101]

Nice

[@jacobladd1935]

Hopcat, I love your videos! You should make a TF2 one for funsies

[@DoctorMonitor]

You should make a tf2 video

[@elmaxoTF2]

I recognised your name, you’ve commented a few times on my videos and I remember you owning me at least once on Badwater lol

[@eduardpeeterlemming]

What in the name of god are you doing here?

[@chickennugget6684]

you forgot to mention the achilles heel of the battalion’s backup, you’re never going to be able to use the banner if you can’t stay alive long enough to charge the 2 quintillion damage you need for it. ..although that might just be a skill issue on my part.. Good video.

[@tonyf3431]

it's even worse for the Buff Banner not only does it lack any sort of sustainability upside, it's outright useless if you don't get the charge

[@ffwast]

Yeah I only bother with banners in mvm.

[@EmbeJuicemazzopazzo]

Buff banner on dustbowl defence is OP if you have at least One medic and a couple of soldiers or heavy or demo actually able to frag

[@Finneagan]

Yeah get good dude, it's fantastic for pushing on offense.

[@thefighter6071]

use direct hit

[@purplehaze2358]

There's not much in TF2 that's scarier than the sound of all the banners blowing at once. When your team has no soldiers.

[@giahuynguyenkim6389]

Then the medic also pops uber

[@ironprince72]

​@@giahuynguyenkim6389 no. 2 medics do a stock uber and kritz uber at the same time.

[@alias_50]

What kind of team doest have a soldier

[@BeantheGerridae]

​@@alias_502fort games, oops all engineers

[@izzy-wt9sr]

I can only think of one: "I am fully charged!"

[@RichterOvertime]

great video just kidding i havent watched it all yet but probably still a great video since it's by you the best tf2ber elmaxo thanks :)

[@batashock]

richter overtime

[@rezokk7220]

Betashock

[@RichterOvertime]

ok i watched the full video now and i can now confidently say itys a great video as expected thanks :)

[@elmaxoTF2]

Thank you Richter Overtime from popular KZbin channel Richter Overtime.

[@TheRealLenin]

@@elmaxoTF2 Remember me? I'm the grilled sandwich guy :D

[@eduardpeeterlemming]

Soliders best secondary is hand grenade, Best primary is patriotism and Best melee is American Fists

[@TheRealLenin]

Meet the american

[@anonymousaccordionist3326]

Funnily enough, the gunboats would actually be more book accurate to the Wizard of Oz. Dorothy's shoes were actually silver, not red, but because colour film was new they changed it to ruby slippers.

[@massivehitbox8759]

I find that the Panic Attack has very good synergy with the Beggar’s; after firing a volley of rockets you can quick swap to the panic attack for a quick burst of damage faster than you can reload your Beggar’s

[@tommygun4552]

Since the Beggars require "time" to reload before shooting, equipping the Panic Attack would help you finish your enemy faster than you would reloading the rocket, this works in situations where choke points are frequent...

[@wolfgangervin2582]

IT also helps compensate for the Black Box's lower capacity quite a bit.

[@rezokk7220]

There isn't a perfect secondary for soldier, but each one of them are good for a certain situation.

[@ThangLe-uq5iv]

So that why various weapons came out

[@bonk-tec9381]

Unless you're the Bison

[@jadegreenleaf781]

@@bonk-tec9381 which is always viable.

[@oldveryveryoldmanfromthe1900s]

wrong. it’s the righteous bison

[@salsamancer]

Yes there is one it's called the stock shotgun

[@fishstickonastick-gaming]

You would not believe how many "BASED Jumper" comments I got on my BASE Jumper video. If I get more as a result of this video I will pursue legal action.

[@elmaxoTF2]

it is very low hanging fruit lol

[@lyell63]

An underrated use for mantreads. Use them in your normal loadouts to push through a choke with an uber and watch those pyros die of confusion as they spam m2 furiously. It is sometimes used in comp in swiftwater apartments. I remember using it in casual and being called a hacker by a noob pyro

[@0rdnajela664]

The panic attack has incredible synergy with the direct hit, the quick switch can get you ridiculous damage up close. I've melted through fully overhealed heavies at close range

[@bow-89]

Tho fuck the direct shit

[@Sticky_The_StickmanV2]

5:24 HELL YEAH THE YOKAI WATCH MUSIC

[@totalbrootal]

The reserve shooter is objectively better than the stock shotgun as long as you don't need more than 4 shots, which is the case the vast majority of the time in my experience

[@Liam_The_Great]

finally someone who has sense. smh my head at all these mfs saying reserve shooter is trash

[@The-JAILOR]

the battalion's backup is always the best sound to hear when that 8000 hour demoman's weapon starts glowing

[@evee_evvillamar4477]

0:56 I really love the sound effects used in this little intro segment

[@elmaxoTF2]

thank you boss man

[@evee_evvillamar4477]

@@elmaxoTF2 im honored to be called bossman Bossman

[@evee_evvillamar4477]

I just realized I have the reserve shooter equipped. Please don't market garden my family I promise I haven't even used it on soldiers rocket jumping yet

[@creepx_hd1236]

Yet! As in u will?!

[@TheRealLenin]

@@evee_evvillamar4477 Bossman gaming

[@daanstrik4293]

The reserve shooter is a personal favorite of mine. Shotguns are always usefull (even with 4 bullets) and the mini-crit combo from launching an enemy up are endlessly satisfying to pull off

[@SolarSocks]

i will GLADLY arrange a version of all of the lights with the buff banner. good idea. mine now

[@elmaxoTF2]

please @ me on twitter or something once you have done it

[@SolarSocks]

aight bet

[@zue625]

5 months later…

[@Original_Katros]

I love using the shotgun with the Soldier because a lot of players wait until you're out of rockets and expect you to be defenseless until you pull up grandpa's boomstick and blast them into oblivion for being stupid, almost no one expect a Soldier to be rocking a shotgun. And yes that does mean I am a Reserve Shooter enthusiast, I love the noise that thing makes, and it will never not be funny to see Soldiers and Demos rocket/sticky jumping away and dying for it because of the funny green shotgun

[@peopleperson]

congratulations you are the sole reason i got into MF DOOM last year and now own his entire discography on vinyl :)

[@elmaxoTF2]

Holy shit that is actually so sick to hear!

[@zesnowpea6347]

You saying shotgun is boring is offensive to soldier tf2, he would go for the most American secondary, and you called it boring

[@Enoi217]

Mostly agreed but the manntreads are ok if paired with an uber and the direct hit in dustbowl last against those twelve billion sentries beckause it negates cnockback.

[@lucaixen]

I prefer to use Direct Hit and Reserve Shooter. I'm telling you, combine that with a Kritzkrieg Medic or Buff Banner makes for good clips.

[@JackARobertson]

4:09 Without even hearing Soldier I can imagine him yelling "Charge!"

[@yellowice0]

Serious talk, the bison is actually really good, I forget which other youtuber covered it, but they summed it up really well that using it is a skill issue in most cases for actually dealing damage, and while not having a key focus on dealing damage, it's the option best chosen for retreating after running out of rockets in your clip when getting into the heat of things as the projectiles have laggy travel time, so it forces the other person to sit there away from line of sight or run forward and tank the damage, which results in them eating 2-3+ shots fired after the first one.

[@olivermarshall8750]

Or you could just wake up yo realoty and get infinitely more use out of any of the other secondaries with far less effort

[@vmxkarelyn_0842]

Choices of secondary on soldier that may or may not explain what kind of player you are, my take. Stock shotgun : you're either A. A new player B. You hate pyros C. You appreciate the constant reliable damage on the shotgun Panic attack : you want to use the shotgun, but you're too cool for stock. That's what you think, you hipster. Reserve shooter : you're either amazing at aiming rockets or absolutely garbage at aiming rockets. Nowhere in between Mantreads : you have the Market gardener equipped 10/10. While you may use the regular damaging rocket launcher, you'll try to use the meme spoon at any golden opportunity. Oh yeah and you lift weights and is an absolute Chad IRL. Gunboats : I've never seen anybody uses the gunboats. Ever. So if you use the gunboats, you're a mystical fairy. Conch : you're an absolute pussy and trash at the game. Bonus points if you use the blackbox and cherry on top of you use the escape plan along with it. Buff banner : people who used this for themselves often realise that they're not benefiting much from it and swap to another secondary. So if you're using the buff banner religiously, you're a team player and I'll love you forever. Battalion's backup : you're using this just for the 20+ HP boost. Admit it. If not, you paired it with the direct miss to deal with sentries. If these two aren't you, then I guess you're a glorified team player? Buff banner soldiers are a bigger team player than you, my friends. It's a fact. Bison : you're a sad guy. You missed the times when the bison is pretty good meme-wise and you really hoped that valve reworked it back to what it's used to be. I'd hug you if I'm right beside you. Or, you're a KZbinr collecting clips. Anything else I missed?

[@TheSpiritedFendron]

The gunboats if you don't trust your team, the panic attack if you do

[@AE0320]

Gunboats + Rocket Jumper is the best combination of weapons in TF2

[@zandalph420]

I heard that ykw blasters song and I got a wave of nostalgia

[@joelclif854]

elmaxo, how do u not have more subs man. these vids are so good!!

[@cz-kick]

I've recently started using the rocket jumper + shotgun + equalizer since I have shit shotgun aim and it's probably one of the most fun play styles I've tried for soldier

[@thyduke3010]

Your just mad that a perfectly placed reserved shooter shot is as satisfying as a air shot

[@andryemkha6232]

His content is getting better and better, that's nice to see.

[@sinom_00]

I love how you for once know what youre talking about while simultaneously sounding less like you know what you're talking about than ever

[@xuavrice2338]

Personally I believe there is no better dopamine rush as soldier than taking down an air blast god with a strange shotgun tracking “pyros killed”

[@darloufledestrucucteur346]

Hello, i discovered ur channel few days ago and decided to buy a strange pro killstreak classic for chismas and join the cult. I shall try to convert as much ppl as possible..

[@elmaxoTF2]

I am very happy to hear this, the Cult welcomes you with open arms!

[@trollmaster2389]

Ma, Ma, look, elmaxo finally posted!

[@alexandrews6256]

Reserve Shooter is a good gun, fight me

[@markbv591]

The Reserve Shooter is so fucking hot. I sometimes hit mini crits on players before they even leave the ground from the blast of my rocket. Also yeah it deals well with those annoying rocket jumping soldiers.

[@casualdejekyll5168]

The only reason I use the shotgun is because I love using it with the rocket jumper, flanking the enemy, dropping out of nowhere, killing a few people and then immediately dying. I call it, the more American scout.

[@RiverWychulis]

Me when I use the gunboats with the rocket jumper

[@carolynchurch4642]

For battle and memes: direct hit, B.A.S.E. jumper, and market Gardner or equalizer (or escape plan)

[@Sox64]

All i really wished was for the gunboats to be actually FUN to use, on one hand they’re an amazing utility tool to help you rocket jump, which i love mobility in the game, but on the other hand it just straight up feels like its a waste of a slot considering you not having a backup gun which is a reasonable trade off

[@thesamdolorian2262]

Heresy to the backup, it is a beautiful sound, and doesn’t soldier strangle his enemies or neck snap them

[@waitingfortheequinnox]

The Gunboats allow for Soldier to use the Market Gardener with a damaging Rocket Launcher. If I could jump I’d like using it tbh

[@dotfoxtom5942]

5:24 oh you poor soul. Another person who just isn't thinking forth dimensionally. You can go with the obvious "its not good" or "a trolldier crutch" and unless you open your minds eye it will forever stay that way and let you down. Its like how the elder wand will always fail voldimort. It doesn't belong to you therefore you will never be able to unlock even a fraction of its power. However for those select few wanting to prehaps become worthy of using such a secondary to its fullest I will give you one hint to help you on your way of finding new and exciting ways of using it. Although the ghost trolldier was removed from the game some time ago there is still a very useful upside to using the B.A.S.E Jumper with the cow mangler, I will leave you to figure out what that is though ;D. And thats not the only thing, I insist you experiment with your choices of primary and melee when using the base jumper as you will find some very interesting combinations to it that give you a lot of potential for even cosplay. I like to use the cow mangler, base jumper and a conscientious objector with a picture of woodys face on it along with equipping the captain space man and a purple polar pull over to make an awesome buzz lightyear cosplay xD.

[@HurricaneBady]

You Sir, are a genius

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

As a Heavy main, watching that beginning where you pretend all of Soldier's primaries were similar made me feel like Mr. Krabs in that "here lies Squidward's hopes and dreams" meme.

[@waterman7082]

1:34 Give me holy water NOW.

[@randomuser-yp2zm]

I think elmaxo is my favorite youtuber these days. With his hillarious vids and other shenanigans

[@elithris]

The banners are easily the best but man, the reserve shooter is fun

[@Wroxal]

7:01 Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.

[@sensibledog09]

The reason why i use the banners it makes it so that we don't have to wait till 10 seconds for a pub push

[@blackey_number_one]

Now tbh this would be my list AWESOME: Gunboats, Battalion's Backup, Concheror Really good: Panick Attack Good: Reserve Shooter , Shotgun Meh: Base Jumper Bad: Mantreads AWFUL.: Righteous Bison

[@c101vp]

I'm so glad Elmaxo stopped playing League of Legends and made this

[@elmaxoTF2]

me too, that game is horrible!

[@realpika954]

He used Yo-Kai Watch music, it's true, this is gospel, everything he says is true

[@lillasteez1405]

@2:23 Daaaamn Maxo as a Sixers fan I thought a TF2 video was a safe place to not be reminded of the most miserable night of my life but somehow you managed it!!! All sarcasm hahaha just so cool to see how global basketball really is!!

[@JOHNDOE99663]

Dude I'm a sixers fan and did not expect this video to bring THAT shot up.........

[@elmaxoTF2]

i apologise for making you relive the trauma

[@evangelos4346]

Mantreads are surprisingly good for fucking over a Pyro’s day, especially if you’re ubered, since they can’t damage or airblast you effectively. But even without Uber it still lets you get in close and beat them to death. Assuming you can tank the fire damage.

[@Aernoth1]

The gunboats are permanently glued to my soldier's feet because movement is fun (also i die too often to charge a banner (and the shotgun is boring))

[@erinlear8423]

In the post jungle inferno pub meta the shotgun is absolutely the way to go for most of your playtime. There is guaranteed to be 3+ pyros on each team and the vast majority of them are good enough to press m2 vaguely at the right time to invalidate your entire class if you go without a shotgun.

[@browdoe]

Man, you're stuck in 2017.

[@thefirestarter06]

As a Pyro main, DO NOT USE THE SHOTGUN. IT MAKES ROCKETS REFLECTED BY PYROS DO MORE DAMAGE. USE THE GUNBOATS, THEY DELETE ALL PYROS FROM THE SERVER.

[@Preinstallable]

oh my god, pyro gaming real!!!/?!??!!? i defninitely trustthis statement,,

[@tappajaav]

I like how you segmented even the last 1 sec cut-off piece

[@judahenjoyseducation4549]

i named my professional killstreak shotgun, "Pyro Repellant". I cannot stop using the shotgun. it is incredibly looked down upon when it has no right to be. it does VERY consistent damage and if you can land your shots with it its damn near functional as a 2nd primary weapon.

[@Flufflemonster]

Mine is called, "Reflect This!"

[@evangonzalez7732]

"The rocket launcher that doesn't do any damage, which actually sounds kind of bad..." Me, A trolldier main: "Wanna fuck around and find out why you're wrong?"

[@cetadel6597]

Gunboats, Liberty Launcher, Market Gardener. *Agressive Trolldier*

[@somestatik4943]

You said shotgun was boring, but have you ever tried the flying buff scout. Both fun, hilarious, and slightly viable.

[@tovarisch3490]

i use the reserve shooter on plr_hightower and it is like pigeon hunting

[@purplehaze2358]

"I love this thing more than my own family" ..Does your family know about your channel? If so, that's uh..a very awkward conversation.

[@hezakighamorgan9974]

When he got scared talking about the Bison, I half expected TheWhat to take over another TFTuber's stream to rant about the Righteous Bison again.

[@sebastianherrera6514]

I appreciate the MF DOOM instrumental between segments, very based indeed

[@evandurham8908]

Stock shotgun will always be old reliable. I definitely just don't use it so I can keep killing after my Black Box is out of ammo. Melee is Escape Plan, I call it "Winglet Soldier" Also late to the party but whatever

[@That_Weird_Ahh_Cactus]

5:24 POV: me when yo-kai watch blasters music kicks in: 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@crimsonscriticalcorner9048]

I love how in the intro he uses the classic but never spoke about it

[@sambenneeett9407]

Ok so I'm just noticing the weezer on the back of his soldier model. That's kinda awesome.

[@endruv_2287]

"The Eyelander but a rocket launcher but a lot worse" If I had a nametag to spare on a weapon I don't use, I would name my Air Strike that

[@gingeysnap2090]

4:33 *Mando’s theme starts playing*

[@justinpark939]

He uploaded!! oh and also my favorite secondary with the rocket jumper is the gunboats.

[@nuggle6400]

Wake up babe new elmaxo vid just dropped

[@gliczide]

1:09 1:09 I'm here to see

[@calebdeboer8320]

2:22 a, yes, a man of culture i see

[@grzgaming2219]

Nice video elmaxo keep up the good work man :DDD

[@elmaxoTF2]

thanks boss man

[@grzgaming2219]

Btw can u make a video about the crit o cola?

[@elmaxoTF2]

@@grzgaming2219 April 1 2022

[@grzgaming2219]

did i just got april fools even tho its not april... Damn

[@highvelocitytictac4232]

4:00 hey elmaxo you seemed to ha-

[@elmaxoTF2]

KILL

[@mingshi7689]

Yes

[@vegatablesoup6409]

My opinion is that the reserve shooter and panic attack are best. A quick swap to your shotgun allows you to punish players in short range or when you run out of rockets

[@cardboardtoaster2169]

Random fact: rocket jumping with the gunboats+air strike will deal you 15/14 self damage

[@TheOnionBoyLP]

Love the intro/lecture thing. Reminded me of martincitopants

[@ashtray378]

No one ever wants to mention the reserve shooters existence. Yes, everyone including myself pulls it out whenever we can, and yes, i always hit that beautiful minicrit, nothin can be said about the 10 killstreak it gives me whenever i wanna be absolutely braindead

[@barozukos7791]

Personally i prefer the Panic atack because the rockets already covers mid-long range, so i choose the shotgun that does more damage at close range, plus it has a fixed spread and since i suck at aiming theres always at least 1 or 2 pellets connecting, which is better than zero which is the case for me often with the stock shotgun

[@thatprofessorguy8316]

Its not about the clips Elmaxo, its about sending you back to the respawn room

[@v-14415]

Hi, doppelganger

[@arbiter6859]

I use the reserve shooter and the beggars bazooka, my gameplay is stupid asf it's more of "I oh so wish i get someone flying" and someone mysteriously dies after 5 seconds after finishing that sentence.

[@edwardkritch3385]

"What's the best secondary for Medic" Me: "Stock" Elmaxo: "The quick fix" Me: "WHAT THE FUCK"

[@deeznutz.6263]

High quality videos bro you are a upcoming tf2 youtuber that may be in the tf2 hall of fame for youtubers

[@elmaxoTF2]

thanks boss, I appreciate the kind words

[@vedadb1937]

I don’t See this mentioned a lot but I really like the music u put in ur videos, especially mf doom I fw it

[@bucketofchicken8325]

2:00 dude my server clearing strange killstreak festivized nutcracker Mk. II scattergun, (that was a mouthful) Is also promptly named, Ol’ Reliable

[@FieldCommandNapoleonOfficial]

only just realized ive played with you a bunch in game! great vids dude

[@glavny_negodyai]

"Waaa waaa, i hate pyros because they have a countermeasure for my fav class." This is how you sound, elmaxo.

[@laayiv9449]

This video made me feel like my main Soldier loadout of Air Strike, Gunboats*, and Equalizer is considered bad for some reason *The stock shotgun is my favourite weapon in the game, but when I want to kill with shotgun I play Pyro.