It depends on what I’m doing but for warm weather camping in my area, I prefer a 4-5” lightweight fixed blade knife, an extremely lightweight folding knife, and a Leather-man squirt. As you mentioned, you don’t need a large knife very often. The main reason I carry my small fixed blade is I do not do long distance backpacking and my main goal is to get where I want to enjoy that area. This often includes fishing water at a mountain lake or something similar. I also enjoy some more involved cooking with whatever fish I catch. The larger knife assists in these roles though I could likely do the same thing with a smaller knife.
@davidk66656 жыл бұрын
A Swiss Army Knife or Leatherman are the most practical tools for backpacking. I used only that for years hiking in Colorado’s highest mountains and for mountain rescue. Such locations and situations are extreme but a multi-tool can’t be beat (and I love fixed blade knives). A large knife is very cool but not needed when backpacking. If you want a camp/survival knife for very light batonning, I suggest a good Mora. Or for more heavy duty work an ESSE 3 or 6, or a similar Becker/RAT knife. I own better knives. Fancier knives are great to have. But you can survive without a thick knife and without batonning wood. The most important thing is to know your capabilities and prepare properly for your journey. The basic multi-tool is best-especially on long hikes. Thanks for the good video and good advice.
@LearningToOutdoors6 жыл бұрын
You bet! The hope is to educate the novice while I'm learning these things myself.
@wisperingbeard7 жыл бұрын
Really good video. Fun to watch, paced perfectly and of course informative.
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
Why thank you! :)
@jussa1018 жыл бұрын
I like your video. But I actually prefer my esee 6 it is big and a bit heavy but I'm a bit bigger built I don't mind the extra weight and carry extra tools. I keep a silky saw and since I don't process tonnes of wood when backpacking the esee does more than enough. And the same for car camping. If I could have multiple blades I would do it exactly your way. But I love the fact that the esee 6 is the jack of all trades. Doesn't excel everything but it does more than enough to get the job done. Thanks for the review appreciate it.
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
I totally understand and still carry a big knife from time to time. We all need to go into the woods with the gear that will help us feel the most comfortable, safe and be able to enjoy it out there! And that's a very personal thing based off of our individual experiences. You're doing what's best. :)
@Seancmccormick6 жыл бұрын
Lol! Your totally spot on! I drag a leatherman along with a pocket folder and it still feels like overkill. I'll carry that and do just fine though 99% of the time though. Atb Sean
@LearningToOutdoors6 жыл бұрын
Yep! Again, all depends on your tasks and why you're going out. Tools for the toolbox, as it were.
@faethe0007 ай бұрын
I've never once needed a set of pliers in decades of backpacking. So I stopped the leatherman thing a long time ago.
@CAG-12272 жыл бұрын
I know that Benchmade Bugout is little bit pricier, but man I carry it in my pocket about 5 years and MAN! I just won’t change it never! I tested so much knives before, a dozens of them, they all was kind of OK, but nothing perfect as this bad boy! Its 1.85OZ with almost 3.25” blade length and 0.09 thickness from S30V!!! You know it’s feels like how to meet your one and the only!!! Try it! You will be blessing the day you read my comment:)
@vicarious10285 жыл бұрын
I'm a hiker who just happens to be a knife guy too. I have ESEE , Bark River, Fallkniven and lots of Moras. But I recently discovered the Buck 102 Woodsman. It's tiny (7 3/4 overall) but you can still get a full grip on it. It only weighs about 2.5 ounces (6.1 with the sheath). It's razor sharp and comes in Bucks 420HC Bos which is an excellent budget steel. The knife is old school but it's a great backpacking /hiking option for the traditionalist who would also carry a slip joint knife.
@LearningToOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
I'm a knife guy too. And when I want to just go play in the woods I'll bring all kinds. Knives are cool!
@grendle81 Жыл бұрын
Good video. I'm a knife guy and I probably have around 200 fixed blades but my go-to backpacking knife is a Mora. They're lightweight, cheap, razor sharp, if I beat the hell out of it or lose it it's not a big loss. And when you run into other people on the trail, which you inevitably will, you don't look like some wannabe Rambo survivalist weirdo out there trying to live on some apocalyptic fantasy.
@barndad287 жыл бұрын
Well if you're looking to save a few ounces spyderco delica and benchmade 940 are both under 3 ounces with decent blade lengths benchmade also came out with the benchmade bug out that is under 2 oz they are all great choices if you want something larger than a keychain knife.
@jacksonpippert10106 жыл бұрын
True dat
@SacWildlife8 жыл бұрын
Out west where I'm at, I've never needed anything to build fires, but a match. I used gravity & geometry and perhaps make a stone splitter and just whack large chunks against stone and break it all up. Saws? Axes? Croc Dundee 'that's a knife'? Screw all that - I have a tiny keychain Swiss Army Knife (1" blade, tiny scissors, tiny nail file, toothpick & tweezers) that I use for backpacking and once last season - I left it in the car. And I did just fine without ANY knife on that trip. Absolutely LOVED your conclusion. When I go backpacking, I go backpacking - it's NOT a 'survival situation' (really getting to hate that phrase). If it becomes a survival situation, I'll leave or get help.
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
Love it! Thank you!
@phildo8647 жыл бұрын
what is a "stone splitter" and can you expand on what it is for?
@tifcvan5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, I've carried the same reliable compact folder for past 5 years backpacking in the Sierras. Never a situation that I felt I needed something bigger. When campfires are allowed we bring a silky or sven to do the sawing. But gathering and sawing becomes a chore after awhile so i can't imagine wood gathering and processing with a bushcraft blade every time. But maybe a manlier fire means a warmer fire...
@LearningToOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Could be. A lot of my fires are from dry sticks found on the ground and a lighter. No knife needed.
@MrBluesluver4 жыл бұрын
IMHO, anyone who goes into the wilderness without a decent fixed blade knife and a compass (as a minimum) is looking for trouble. A Mora is very light weight and inexpensive, and will do you better than any cheap folder. Stuff happens.
@imjustheretogrill47943 жыл бұрын
I don’t think you are familiar with cold steel. I also love Mora but any cold steel folder would destroy a mora in regards to toughness. I have broken 2 Moras but never my recon 1, Voyager, or Spartan. I think the old Recon 1 is CTS-XHP would have made a great backpacking knife. They are the only brand of folding knife I will baton with.
@MrBluesluver3 жыл бұрын
@@imjustheretogrill4794 Sorry, but I.am familiar Cold steel & have a few my self. In fact I have a Victory (4 in) now. I agree the Cold Steel tri-aid lock. But I still wear a fixed blad..
@sticksnstonespatriot17283 жыл бұрын
@@imjustheretogrill4794 agreed. I don't go ANYWHERE without a Finn Wolf and Rajah 2.
@imjustheretogrill47943 жыл бұрын
@@MrBluesluver Gotcha, I thought you were saying at minimum one needed a fixed blade and were referencing a mora as an example. In that context, I was arguing a folding knife with sufficient lock strength could be superior to a lighter built fixed blade.
@dmccoyny2 жыл бұрын
I know this is from 2016, but still relevant today. I just bought the (somewhat) newly released fixed blade version of the Zancudo (named the Xancudo), and it's everything you recommended and more. Perfect backpacking blade.
@AutismFamilyChannel7 жыл бұрын
I understand the reasoning behind this, and on most trips that are day hikes I would agree. But as for my family we like to build fires, shelters, pot holders, bushcraft items. Kind of what you said at the end of the video, but we are not surviving in those situations -and we still need a bigger blade for camp chores. Usually a saw like a silky gomboy or the Laplander comes along too. Obviously if we are just hiking for pleasure without camping then your statement makes sense to me. Nice knives :)
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I completely agree. I do bushcraft and wilderness survival training with my sons and scouts and definitely carry more robust tools. Even though the BSA says otherwise I teach my scouts to carry a fixed blade for fire-making and camp chores. This video was to specifically address lightweight backpacking, since I've been learning more about it from my own trips and experiences. Hence the name of my channel! :) Appreciate your comment! Totally adds to the collective wisdom of our community. Thank you!
@AutismFamilyChannel7 жыл бұрын
Thank you too. Sometimes I overpack and it's a good reminder to carry only what you need as long as the hike is well planned and people know where you are going.
@wamps01278 жыл бұрын
LOL enjoyed your video. Great points. Great ending. Entertaining.
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Those are all my goals so... success! :)
@GAUROCH27 жыл бұрын
Hey, just to add a drop of envy (just joking) I have a ExRatio Shrapnell and Kreios parang for those extreme environments…definitely expensive but fabulous tools. I've ordered NK 3 but it came in black and I want it in desert camo…so I'll have to wait some more time. I do not like the "tanto" shape blade…the curved bally of the old model NK I seems better…but it is definitely short (1inch?)… Gosh, have you noticed the thickness of those little beasts? 6mm!!! and the absence of scales adds to that indestructibility! ER has a new model more specific for bushcraft the Task I think, but it is somewhat a "tanto" and I do prefer the spear shape of the Shrapnell.Keep safe and enjoy (and explain to those BSA that fixed blades do not close inadvertently on the fingers of the scouts…!)
@patrickgermond27507 жыл бұрын
That Esee 6 is a favorite of mine. I like the thinner metal and the lighter weight compared to other 6 inch knives. Most knife makers think a knife like that should be a 1/4 inch thick. It's light weight like the classic Kabar combat knife. It's a joy to carve with. I put a bowdrill divot in mine. Which is a must for backpackers with the skill. That knife has the right handle for it too. My Tahoma got pretty heavy when I was carving figure four traps and grandfather traps. It was hard to admit that to myself because it's such a fantastic knife. But the point and choice I'm at in my knife quest for the last 48 years is a Cold Steel Kukri. It has to be used to be understood. You Tube video can't prove to you the brilliance and physics that come out when in use. I have taught myself to use it for everything and it didn't take my hands long to learn it. That and a Victorinox Work Champ and I'm set:) What do you use your knives for?
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at all kinds of kukris for a long time and will get one someday. I think they are the best all-round survival tool. I don't use my knives very often to be honest. I don't practice wilderness skills as often anymore. Maybe I'll get back into it sometime but for now I'm enjoying taking my sons out backpacking. Then I let them make fires with their Moras! ;)
@ScanMan19675 жыл бұрын
I got worried when I saw the Esee 3 clickbait. I agree with your conclusion, all you need is a good quality lightweight knife. I like Mora knives, very lightweight and sharp. Although I have many, I don't like folders in the woods, I can't explain why. I think many people go thru the whole "I need a big tactical knife when I go backpacking " but over time you realize it's just not necessary, overweight and not great for light tasks which ultimately will be 99% of what you do. I have a drawer full of big fixed blade knives gathering dust. I bought a Victorinox Fieldmaster recently, I'm going to try that for a while. I think its the ultimate camping knife.
@wesmccage5 жыл бұрын
Bought a buck mesa a couple of years back from wally world. 5" blade with micarta scales and is lighter than a rat 1. As for not carrying a large knife, to each their own. I do need to find a decent sheath for it though.
@MrWmburr77 жыл бұрын
Nope, I'm not buying it. When you leave civilization behind, nature can get pretty Intense. I'm not relying on a cheap little folder.
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
You make a good point. I guess most places I go backpacking aren't really "leaving civilization". They're well-traveled, fairly busy trails and locations. Also, please know this is not coming from a novice. I've been backpacking (and studying wilderness survival skills) for a long, long time. Honestly, so many people backpack with way too much gear, especially beginners. They end up hating the experience and never go out again. One of my goals with this channel is to help others learn the joy that comes from the outdoors and how lightening your gear can make it more enjoyable. Thank you for your comment, it's good to keep that in mind for sure!
@davidp69136 жыл бұрын
Learning To Outdoors I carry an schf38 for long term backpacking. If you're really backpacking you'll end up in questionable, secluded, and sketchy towns where a big intimidation tool is good for peace of mind**. I remember one time I unknowingly ended up in gallup new mexico and someone came up behind me and said don't move. Pulled my side knife and pepper spray in one motion and said just try and he thought about it for a second before wandering away. (Im pretty sure he was high on something)
@michaelschwarz31756 жыл бұрын
I am carrying an esee junglas and i am having the best time of my life. I love making small cooking fires and cook in bamboo. What do i do with my sak? Cut the veggies and meat up.
@Eldofarmboy6 жыл бұрын
That Finn Wolf and the Zancudo are tough but they're nothing on the Spyderco Paramilitary 2. I have a video wgere I do fixed blade stuff to the Paramilitary 2 and it suffers ZERO damage
@davidp69135 жыл бұрын
@@cannypedant8877... I'm trying to cut wood not space
@kazuyasurioka51047 жыл бұрын
Nice! I like to have SRK and F1 when I get money.
@highpointadvisors93143 жыл бұрын
A knife is a tool. Instead of deciding that one knife is THE KNIFE, I would suggest evaluating which knife you bring based on what you will need it to do. On being prepared, again what's the plan. Hiking well traveled trails on essentially day hikes from a base camp is different from dirtbagging in uncharted woods. If I remember correctly, the boy scout motto is, "Be Prepared!"
@johnny_w5 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are absolutely right, weight is very important ! A Swiss army folding knife with can opener, little saw and scissors works for me. For a fixed blade, the Hultafors GrovKniv is a pleasant knife , specially when you're on a budget ;-) And when you need something bigger to split wood, try a Glock 78, cheap, very strong, and only 250 g. incl the sheath ! If I take a folding saw in the backpack, my choice would be the Opinel, has a 13 cm blade. Greeting from the Netherlands.
@LearningToOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Great insight! Experience is the best teacher.
@bradyfilm6 жыл бұрын
So cool ,within the first 30 secs of listening I knew I should subscribe !
@LearningToOutdoors6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! This makes me want to produce more videos for the channel.
@Eldofarmboy6 жыл бұрын
I carry my Cold Steel SRK fixed blade and my Spyderco Paramilitary 2 pocket knife because I know they're super reliable. I can use the SRK around camp and the PM2 for food, opening packages, etc. It gained me the trail name of Rambo from my fellow backpackers but oh well. I like to have two blades
@LearningToOutdoors6 жыл бұрын
Awesome combo! I need to grab an SRK for sure.
@Eldofarmboy6 жыл бұрын
@@LearningToOutdoors I've reviewed two different versions on my channel. Knives are what I do. If you're in the market for a blade swing by and see all the different blades I've tested
@LearningToOutdoors6 жыл бұрын
@@Eldofarmboy You got it! Thanks for the invite!
@Runner8698 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. Well done. I agree with your conclusions for the most part. However, I carry 2 knives when backpacking. I have a Kershaw Chive clipped in my pocket a small CRKT neck knife. Together they weigh less than 6 oz. The neck knife comes along as a backup because I had a pocket knife go missing after some off-trail hiking a few years ago.
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
Smart! You have a great point. :)
@fred77057 жыл бұрын
The only knife you ll ever need is the you will have on you when you need it. For me its the swiss farmer. Its always there in my pocket when i must use it.
@LearningToOutdoors6 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@matusknives2 жыл бұрын
Damn I hate to say that you are right.!You are also totally taking the fun out carrying a knife :p But seriously - EVERY hiker should watch this video of yours starting at 8:45.
@PumpkinVillage8 жыл бұрын
Very nice video and good info. Love my Mora knifes thou. Take care, Al
@MississipVol8 жыл бұрын
Agree! Mora knives work great if you are concerned about weight. You can even baton with them if needed. My go to Mora has a 4" blade and weighs only 4.15 ounces with sheath.
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
Agree with you both. My sons have Moras. I make them take them on all our trips. Since they're still learning I prefer them using a fixed blade.
@phillipnunya67933 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying everyone needs a big knife or that there is no advantages to carrying a small folding knife, but a lot your reasons are specific to your situations. Not everyone will always have others making everything for them, nor will everyone only be just opening a bag of candy. An easy example of something you don't seem to have thought much about are small fixed blade knives. They can be unobtrusive and lightweight, and are way more reliable than folding knives. They take less maintenance. What if someone brings gear that relies of wood burning instead of always carrying fuel around? A bigger knife makes more sense. Also, a very wear resistant edge does not go well with cheap. You won't get supersteel performance for nothing.
@doc0217 жыл бұрын
Deep down, I know you are right when it comes to backpacking specifically. Having said that, I'm just not ready. I do the same perfecting the balance between a more comfortable hike with a lighter minimalist pack, and a more comfortable camp with more weight and more gear, but my knife at my hip hasn't applied yet. My last time out was with the Buck Hoodlum and that was waaay too much knife as I didn't need to chop or baton as much as thought I would on that trail. My esee 6 will arrive tomorrow. Maybe some day I'll realize that one usually doesn't need that much knife for backpacking but until then, bring on the gear!
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
It's been a long journey for me too. I still love knives and carry an Emerson CQC 8 every day. Some might say that's overkill for general utility EDC. But we all like what we like. Carry your big blades with pride, my friend! :)
@doc0217 жыл бұрын
I always counter the overkill with my leatherman skeletool. That helps.
@cannypedant88775 жыл бұрын
@doc021 Why are chopping and batoning while backpacking? Backpacking is about putting in as many miles in as you can. I'm to tired to be building fires after hiking 20 miles.
@brandonfoley75195 жыл бұрын
The best knife for .. Actually I'm just gonna take my bk7 anyways
@LearningToOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Ha! Do it! It's a very rad and very capable blade.
@jshada112 ай бұрын
You also might check out Puma knives they make some great blades as well. 👍
@kakashi12347772 жыл бұрын
Check out the Esse 4hm. I just got it and a esse6 that I customized from the knife company and I’m loving them.
@faethe0007 ай бұрын
My backpacking knife is a plain old swiss army knife. Does everything, fits anywhere.
@guns4funcajanajustin7 жыл бұрын
ESEE for me
@LearningToOutdoors6 жыл бұрын
Love them.
@DoloresVillatoro-ho5jg4 ай бұрын
I can't be outdoors without a good knife so I carry my Esee 6 or my Kabar 1211. I don't carry a folder, I feel those are gimmicks. Yeah, you could put the best steel on a folding knife and pay $200+ on one one but at the end of the day, they have too many parts to be relied on. For the price of some of these "premium" folders you could have yourself a very decent fixed blade, which if one knows how to use properly, will last a lifetime and over again. It's fixed blade for me while I laugh at my buddy when he loses a screw on his folder! I use folders as a fidget toy and to open my mail, and that's about it. A multi-tool is a must have for any bug-out bag with bits. My bug-out bag has everything and it's under 10lbs. A big blade is a MUST no matter where you go. Anything can & will happen, and I'll be damned if I relied on a folding knife to get me through a life or death scenario. A big blade can certainly defend one against large wild animals such as mountain lions, bears, and hell, even sasquatch and dogmen which unfortunately do exist as much as I hate to admit and we have plenty of them here in Northern Canada.
@cody33622 жыл бұрын
I carry a Benchmade 940 most the time. But I can't be in the woods without a fixed blade of some sorts
@elwha60256 жыл бұрын
It's like you say, it's everyone accdg to their choosing. Usually, for longer trips I take a Mora or Marttiini or modified butcher knife plus a SAK. For shorter thrips I'll throw in my ESEE 6 because I like using it.
@LearningToOutdoors6 жыл бұрын
Exactly! To each their own. This video was mainly targeted to someone new to backpacking. But I like to carry big knives sometimes too!
@5_C_G3 жыл бұрын
I love the second knife's leather sheath, also the knife is not a bad design.
@Buddy44317 жыл бұрын
I go with the one is none and two is one rule. I always carry a fixed blade, a neck knife, and a pocket knife or multitool. I mostly solo hike so I can only depend on what I carry. I'm a big guy so I don't mind an extra pound.
@cannypedant88775 жыл бұрын
There are people who thru hike with no knife at all. The overwhelming majority of knife usage while backpacking is open food packages and cutting food.
@Adam666...7 жыл бұрын
any esee is best...made in good ol USA and best warranty on the market
@jacksonpippert10106 жыл бұрын
Not really
@jacksonpippert10106 жыл бұрын
Leather man and bench made have better warranty
@ironkid88365 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonpippert1010 busse has best warranty and best knives lol imho for the money u get some awesome users res c is my favourite handle material
@griff77492 жыл бұрын
Man, I'd go with a swiss army knife. I honestly don't even use a blade even once on an average 2-3 day trip. Shocking as that may sound, all my gear is ready to go already, and I use a stove for food, with dehydrated meals or sandwiches. Always carry a knife, but for backpacking, all my gear and food is prepared before hand, no cutting needed.
@beno2rasho7 жыл бұрын
I cleared out a bunch of China Berry trees with a folding saw. Synthetic handle, very lightweight.
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
Super useful piece of kit.
@jackdoheny27925 жыл бұрын
This is quality content
@LearningToOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I want to get back on it. Took too long of a break.
@anju26064 жыл бұрын
Do you ever make decisions based on the possibility of running into a mountain lion or bear? Am I being paranoid by feeling more secure with an esee 6 on me?
@LearningToOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
It's a valid concern, but from my experience the places I go rarely see these kinds of animals. And when I sleep overnight somewhere I practice smart camping procedures. Specifically, I don't have food in my campsite. Animals aren't trying to get YOU, they want food.
@PoeInTheDitch3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with "Learning's" reply. I'll add that you're not going to fare well against apex predators with a knife. You're not going to kill that bear before it kills you, and you're very likely never going to see or hear a mountain lion coming. You're better off with bear spray, understanding protocol for the predators in the area where you'll be, and keep your food and interesting smells away from your camp. Honestly, you'll be fine. Your chance of dying in your car on the way to the trail is magnitudes higher than your chances of dying by a bear on that trail.
@anju26063 жыл бұрын
@@PoeInTheDitch solid info
@PoeInTheDitch3 жыл бұрын
@Carlos Anthony Vasquez Hope that you've been able to get out and enjoy some trails. Seriously, we all have these worries, at first. In the end, though, do whatever makes you feel safe...you can always adjust over time. Hike your own hike, Carlos. Have some fun. See ya out there.
@GAUROCH27 жыл бұрын
Hey, don't get me wrong neither…! I have my folders (usualy sturdy ones - I like the Gorilla's Bladeworks, I have a LightMyFire survival blade (with ferrorod and whistle) and a couple of "custom friction folders"… But I always feel safer with a fixed blade I have a Isula II, and as neckknife my favourite would be perhaps my Extrema Ratio NK1 (although a bit small it is rock solid and never failed me).
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
I've lusted over Extrema Ratio for years! One day. :) You're totally fine! Love the comments.
@eugeniovaldez7205 Жыл бұрын
Great one!
@sinfonianbarelytone91918 жыл бұрын
My son won a 1.5 ounce Buck which is crazy light. 2.5 inch. Not bad. I carry my Leatherman Mini.
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
A multitool is another great option. Anything multipurpose is wise and lightweight!
@davidblowe90967 жыл бұрын
Have you considered an Opinel No8.
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
I've seen them. I should pick one up to try it out. Great suggestion. Thank you!
@davidblowe90967 жыл бұрын
I have 3, get one of the wood handle ones, I'm not impressed with their "survival" model the blade is a little loose in the lock. The edge may need a hone out of the box and the spine may have a small bur, both are easy fixed and the blade will take wicked edge.
@davidsantiago61892 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thanks
@kazuyasurioka51047 жыл бұрын
That's realistic and reasonable. We justify ourselves to buy big knives and to be Rambo.
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
Just bought another one myself! (Cold Steel Recon Scout) Won't bring it backpacking though. ;)
@dennisleighton2812 Жыл бұрын
0:51 " ... the one knife ..." Why only one? 9:11 Your criteria for a backpack knife: - Sharp - that would apply ANY knife when you set out! Dump it. - Holds an edge - how much work are you expecting for a knife to lose its edge on a hike? If it goes a bit dull, sharpen it properly when you get back home, before the next hike. - Small: how small? why so small? To be useful it must be of a certain size for your hand. OK, I agree an ESEE 6 or CS SRK might be a bit of overkill on a short hike, but that little tickler you showed is not going to be terribly useful. [On the one hand you talk about the knife getting a dull edge - this suggests quite a lot of work. Then you say it must be small and light. How much WORK can you do with that little knife, enough to make it dull? I don't follow the logic. - Light : I found very little difference carrying a knife on my belt weighing 8 ounces or 3 ounces! I don't even notice either! I really think this one is overplayed. - Easy to carry: ALL knives are "easy to carry"! One just has to be mindful of how your gear is set up as to where would be the best place to carry the knife. In addition, it depends on what kind of hike, the location, weather, duration, and your own physical strength and experience. I would approach it like this: # If the hike is a short one ( a few days) in fair weather, I'd take only my Victorinox Swiss Champ! [This is my compulsory basic tool to carry, on the belt in its pouch (to which I've added several additional small items).] # If the hike was more demanding and circumstances are a bit more unpredictable, I'd add a Victorinox Ranger Grip 78/79. (Ref: Felix Immler books and videos on the use of this fine knife. They are really excellent.) # Under harsh conditions I'd add my regular camp belt knife - Cold Steel SRK San Mai III - for more robust tasks. Here I would add a saw as a basic tool (Silky Gomboy at least). # For longer and most demanding circumstances (probably not really hikes) I'd add my Cold Steel Trail Master San Mai III. This would also be a standard item where transport of some sort is to be used. This would also be the case where the outing is to a permanent camp or hunting lodge, or similar. This is just a short summary, and in all cases I would do a very thorough assessment for planning and preparation, and choose my tools (knives) accordingly. I hope this raises some discussion points. Cheers mate!
@richardhenry19694 жыл бұрын
So it’s 3 years later what are you carrying now. I learned in Boy Scouts then in the army the best knife is the one you have when you need it. That said I carried a buck knife for years. Now I carry a coldsteel . When I go hiking I carry my Rahja 2 it takes the place of a small ax I also have a folding saw in my daypack. If I’m carrying my tomahawk I carry my broken skull. I prefer a big blade which is a folder but I like big just in case. You can never plan an wild animal attack for no reason lots of people have been saved by a 5 inch blade. I prefer to have it an not need it then have a headstone that says if only. But hey it’s worked so far you only get one chance in the real wild outdoors. Because of conservationist we have more alpha animals ( not saying it’s a bad thing) but something that you could do Ten years ago now you need to really think bears, wolves, coyotes, snakes I’d rather have a gun but sharp steel is better then a stick. But you go right on with that SAK . Lol just having some fun
@ironkid88365 жыл бұрын
Id still rather a fixed blade just in case you ended up in a survival situation you aint killing a cougar .wolf or bear with the zancudu .fixed equals reliability
@cannypedant88775 жыл бұрын
You're not killing a bear with a machete let alone a fixed blade knife. Cougars are ambush predators and attack the neck from behind. Wolves hunt in packs. I hate to bring you down to earth with the rest of us but that full tang knife isn't going to protect you any more than a folder.
@ironkid88365 жыл бұрын
@@cannypedant8877 still better chance of surviving with a fixed blade than a folder period i suppose every survival instructor or s.e.r.e operator. Needs to be brought down to earth too people carry fixed blades for survival period .and if i had a one of my busse blades id think it would increase.my survival vs a folder of any description .and i know if u get caught off gaurd ur screwed either ways
@cannypedant88775 жыл бұрын
@@ironkid8836 Any survival instructor will tell you that backpacking is in no way close to survival. You literally have everything you need for survival in your pack. Shelter, warmth, and water purification are all taken care of. If you find yourself in a survival situation while backpacking. Then you have made some serious mistakes. If you're inexperienced enough to make those type of mistakes. Then chances are your not experienced enough to know how to truly survive in the woods anyway. Plus any survival instructor worth a grain of salt prefers knives with a scandi edge. They all would endorse a Mora over an esee or esee equivalent as well.
@ironkid88365 жыл бұрын
@@cannypedant8877 i have an izula as a box cutter i have all manners of knives mora are sharp but weak and cheap as shit .anyone with a bit of skill could put any edge on a blade they want .id still rather a ratmandu or perhaps the new alpha regulator .what do you carry .for me its a 311 .anyone can end up in any type of situation that involves survival type scenarios whether its navigation .or shelter and backpackers go missing quite often and are never found they must of owned zancudos lol .
@andrewwolfe87424 жыл бұрын
So this is my personal opinion. This isn't a knock. I'd take your osee 6 inch as a neck knife or belt knife. I am of the school you keep ultralight but some gear you take the weight. My knife is one. My ferro rod is the other. Just rough it for those and reduce in other gear. Those two pieces can save your life. That and your water filter. Sorry but I don't care about weight in those items. Mainly because they don't exceed 9 oz. Also the best planning doesn't save you. Fixed blade can do what you want and save you. You can have a tack hammer but sometimes you gotta drive a nail.
@toasty40000007 жыл бұрын
I'm carrying a mora with me now. I carry a knife 24/7, and that's 99% of the time a folding pocket knife. When I backpack, I kinda want a fixed blade, and I want it on my hip like a freaking action hero or something dumb like that. Why? Idk, it makes me happy... breaks the norm
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
Carrying a huge knife in the woods on your hip is awesome. I support it 100%.
@cannypedant88775 жыл бұрын
@kakunapod How do you backpack with a belt hanging from your hip?
@GAUROCH28 жыл бұрын
There are small fixed blade knives out there that can do the job, are "light" and do not jam or break at the hinge. Telling a novice "a little flimsy folder is all that you have to take with you" seems somewhat dangerous... but that's just my opinion! What about a ESEE Isula III?
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Don't get me wrong, if I'm processing any wood for fires I will take a fixed blade. I also teach my scouts (to the chagrin of the BSA) that a fixed blade is safer and encourage them to take one instead (or in addition to) their pocket knives. I have an Izula and love it.
@cannypedant88775 жыл бұрын
@gauroch2 What's dangerous about it?
@kenharbord87546 жыл бұрын
Has anyone considered the CRKT Stiff Kiss? It is only 1.8 oz with knife and shield. Still can be had for $16. I have two and they are great!
@LearningToOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
I'll look at them! Sounds perfect.
@FoxSolomon16 жыл бұрын
Look at the spyderco manix 2 lw. USA made and has higher quality steel than the Zancudo and Finn Wolf. I rotate two lightweight Manixs for everyday
@LearningToOutdoors6 жыл бұрын
Great choices! That's the best part about knife shopping, finding one that fits YOU.
@TVConnorsCrap2 жыл бұрын
What about guns
@triskalion96274 жыл бұрын
Idk those small knives don't seem like they can process wood for a campfire too well...
@LearningToOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
You're right. It would be a pain to do that with them. Most of the time when I backpack I don't make fires. When I know I'm going to I'll bring more appropriate tools.
@RenoFencingMan5 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! I’ve been carrying a leatherman as my go to, but it weighs a pound and I never use any of the tools except the knife. All that extra weight for something not being used.
@LearningToOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've found experience to be a great teacher. ;)
@davidtua60763 жыл бұрын
For me TRC mini is best option
@antoniobell40704 ай бұрын
It’s a knife that’s sharp and close at hand
@20Hikecdt235 ай бұрын
Best: Mora Spark.
@timtrexler67666 жыл бұрын
Try the esee pr4 it's a kephart
@LearningToOutdoors6 жыл бұрын
I want one, bad!
@FallHuntsman2 жыл бұрын
BUT WHAT IF I WANNA FIGHT BEARS?!?
@ilijabosnjak765 жыл бұрын
OKC SP-10 plus Mora Companion..
@LearningToOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Awesome combo!
@2manysigns6 жыл бұрын
Orange slice candies !!!!!!!!
@LearningToOutdoors6 жыл бұрын
A staple on any hike!
@heathmarcum53906 жыл бұрын
Durability would be my number 1 requirement, accidents are called accidents for a reason shit happens when u don't expect it and your just trying to enjoy yourselfs and that's when you'll wish you had one of those esee instead of a small folder!!! Ask around how many people were in the woods and was expecting a accident to happen or something bad happend!!?? Just say'n.. if your complaining about the weight of that esee 3 or the other mid sized knife then in MY opinion thats just pure damn laziness!! Sorry!!!
@LearningToOutdoors6 жыл бұрын
No offense taken! I agree. You need to take the right tool for the job. And being prepared for the "unknown and unknowable" is smart. We're on the same page.
@cannypedant88775 жыл бұрын
@Heath Marcum Ask how many people complete a thru hike with a fixed blade. Let me save you some time. The answer is zero.
@Feverdream77777 жыл бұрын
including the ESEE name for your backpacking video is like talking about Jet Fuel types you can use when you are out riding around on your Vespa. I feel baited...
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
;)
@sunbunbradley3 жыл бұрын
WINKLER knives!!!
@sabatheus7 жыл бұрын
8:54 Pretty ladies...all in a row.
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! I'm hilarious. ;)
@sandfordfields95415 жыл бұрын
Esee 6
@LearningToOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
It's a rad knife for sure!
@michaelschwarz31756 жыл бұрын
Can i have the other fixed blades then? You don't seem to need them 😂
@LearningToOutdoors6 жыл бұрын
No one NEEDS another knife. But we will always acquire them! Haha!
@paulie4x18 жыл бұрын
Say Heah, Backpacking knives and survival knives are alot different. I do alot of scouting, I bring knives that bring me back, I don't count ounces. I make sure they comply with certain criteria, It has to be able to dig, chop, and work wood, Like processing wood for fires. Don't get me wrong, I have lite Trio's, Like my Mora 2000 and the Mora Hatchet with my Bacho Laplander. I also have a Lite Case Set, But I also have other knives that I use in trio's that the Trio's are more robust too. If I just go for a hike in a wooded area, I might just bring just a knife Haversack with my Bacho Laplander, Since I''very been doing the out of doors thing for a few 24's, I have A few knives, So I just pick and choose, I don't have to go out and buy a hiking knife. I sometimes might just bring me Victorinox Delemont Collection Ranger 78 and that's all. Job well done, Thanx You. ,, .
@LearningToOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU! Appreciate your contribution to the shared experience! Keep it coming.
@paulie4x17 жыл бұрын
Y W. ,,
@BrentonCarr6 жыл бұрын
Manix2 lw
@LearningToOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Awesome knife!
@Slitthroat17766 жыл бұрын
This was funny
@LearningToOutdoors6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really try to make them interesting to watch.