What is the Church of God (Jerusalem Acres)?

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@cthrugrl
@cthrugrl 3 ай бұрын
"charismatic pentacostal church that takes judaism out of context" is probably the most american thing i've ever heard
@comethalley3185
@comethalley3185 3 ай бұрын
agreed!
@Pope_Balenciaga
@Pope_Balenciaga 3 ай бұрын
Technically Christianity and Islam is taking Judaism out of context.
@binaryagenda2167
@binaryagenda2167 3 ай бұрын
As a rule of thumb, any time you see someone running around with the star of Rephan all over their stuff you should automatically think sus.
@ochem123
@ochem123 3 ай бұрын
The Catholic Church is Universal; prove me wrong. ❤️‍🔥🇻🇦
@LuzianJ
@LuzianJ 3 ай бұрын
​@@Pope_BalenciagaActually Talmudic Judaism is taking Judaism out of context. Christianity is a Jewish sect, the term "Christian" was given to us by pagans to mock us. 1st century Christians did not think they were starting a new religion.
@gazoontight
@gazoontight 3 ай бұрын
Once again, one man decided that he had special knowledge that no one else had for nearly 2000 years.
@maximilianusofmarchaorient596
@maximilianusofmarchaorient596 3 ай бұрын
I do not believe in this church, still, could the same not be said about the one foretelling the messiah? "For hundreds of years nobody said anything about it and now this man has done so". I think our modern day view of things "old an ancient and thus true" is not always justified. It is easy to say "this is wrong because it does not sound miraculous or like ancient texts". Just a thought.
@nathanjstoic
@nathanjstoic 3 ай бұрын
@@maximilianusofmarchaorient596But you have to argue that Jesus didn't fit with the Old Testament texts.
@TheExtremeIRON
@TheExtremeIRON 3 ай бұрын
​@@maximilianusofmarchaorient596it's not a matter of "it's old so it's true" it's a matter of did God abandon the Church he established for millenia or not. If older was simply better than the logical conclusion would be that everyone should follow the paganism of the Egyptian old kingdom
@nxtvim2521
@nxtvim2521 3 ай бұрын
​@@TheExtremeIRONexactly. the church evolves from Persians Zoroastrianism to Judaism to Christianity. these all 3 reference each other and heavily rely on their previous text.
@Ggdivhjkjl
@Ggdivhjkjl 3 ай бұрын
May the Lord enlighten the eyes of seeking hearts.
@AlbertYonson
@AlbertYonson 3 ай бұрын
May Real Eyes Realize Real Lies.
@rogermetzger7335
@rogermetzger7335 3 ай бұрын
Kings harelds
@CountryBwoy
@CountryBwoy 3 ай бұрын
OMG!!! I had a highschool teacher that was a member! I thought about this denomination every now and again. Forgot all about them.
@CCootauco
@CCootauco 3 ай бұрын
I can see why the Church fathers rooted out heresies.
@ghhhjj1583
@ghhhjj1583 3 ай бұрын
Yes via murder and excommunication. I believe that's what Christ taught.
@deathdestroyer67
@deathdestroyer67 3 ай бұрын
@@ghhhjj1583 why equivocate excommunication with murder? Is it because they didnt murder but did excommunicate, so in order to make the latter seem bad you had to shoehorn in the former?
@DamePiglet
@DamePiglet 3 ай бұрын
​@@deathdestroyer67 TikTok-fed athiests don't know how to form actual, rational arguments and non-Christian worldviews don't value Truth. TL/DR: You're asking too much.
@richlopez5896
@richlopez5896 3 ай бұрын
@@ghhhjj1583 St. Peter the apostle excommunicated the first heretic. Those who introduce and spread heresies are to be removed from the flock if they do not repent and renounce their divisive ways. Those who promote schism are to be brought back into the fold. “We believe in the holy Church, that is, the Catholic Church; for heretics and schismatics call their own congregations churches. But heretics violate the faith itself by a false opinion about God; schismatics, however, withdraw from fraternal love by hostile separations, although they believe the same things we do. Consequently, neither heretics nor schismatics belong to the Catholic Church; not heretics, because the Church loves God, and not schismatics, because the Church loves neighbor” - St. Augustine, bishop of Hippo(Faith and Creed 10:21 [A.D. 393]
@oakandiron_
@oakandiron_ 3 ай бұрын
@@ghhhjj1583please explain
@jarrynorme801
@jarrynorme801 3 ай бұрын
Can you do the Church of God Mountain Assembly (CGMA) next? That's the denomination that my former church is affiliated with, and I am curious to see what distinguishes them from other churches of God.
@onliwankannoli
@onliwankannoli 3 ай бұрын
Judging by the robes, I thought it was the Church of Wookiee Life Day.
@thetraditionalist
@thetraditionalist 3 ай бұрын
1st! Last time I was this early, there was only one church of God
@marcosburgos8491
@marcosburgos8491 3 ай бұрын
😂
@yosefkenner2376
@yosefkenner2376 3 ай бұрын
You didn't define what "Theocratic Government" is and how it differs from other forms of church polity.
@veggiet2009
@veggiet2009 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I thought that I must've missed something
@veggiet2009
@veggiet2009 3 ай бұрын
I think it's in the 35th minute
@joshuakarr-BibleMan
@joshuakarr-BibleMan 3 ай бұрын
35:04
@floodtheswamp5481
@floodtheswamp5481 3 ай бұрын
We need to get a bit more creative when naming our denominations
@UniversalistSon9
@UniversalistSon9 3 ай бұрын
That’s such a huge ego to think that your church alone is some fulfillment of scripture prophecy.
@GitzenShiggles
@GitzenShiggles 3 ай бұрын
Most of the Christian denominations do exactly that.
@marcodesalud7034
@marcodesalud7034 3 ай бұрын
@@GitzenShiggles every human that identifies as a christian would believe that. Is it preferred to believe you are part of a false church?
@DeivyCabrera4250
@DeivyCabrera4250 3 ай бұрын
Brother, every church holds somewhat to the view that they're the the most sound church or that their church is the "full truth" thank the Lord we aren't saved by works lol
@mikebrown9850
@mikebrown9850 3 ай бұрын
Christ said “I will build My Church”(Matthew 16:18) not churches. Paul said the Church of God is unified in the same mind, judgment, with no divisions speaking the same thing (1 Corinthians 1:10). The name of God’s Church is the “Church of God”(1 Corinthians 11:16; 1 Thessalonians 2:14; 2 Thessalonians 1:4 etc). Of course not every church that appropriates that name is truly the Church Jesus Christ established. The doctrines, teachings, practices and more specifically the Work the Church carries out determines what Church it is and Who it belongs to.
@DamePiglet
@DamePiglet 3 ай бұрын
​@@marcodesalud7034 that's a lie. Just because you believe something doesn't make it true.
@political-farmer
@political-farmer 3 ай бұрын
I’d be really interested to see you do a video on the Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster. Have you heard of it before? Thanks
@iswimZay
@iswimZay 3 ай бұрын
I’m a COGOP member in Baltimore, how did I never here of this
@信者の男
@信者の男 3 ай бұрын
I had a similar reaction when I found out how the Seventh Day Adventist were formed. Run away from these cults.
@WilliamBranhamsermons
@WilliamBranhamsermons 3 ай бұрын
God bless you so much
@michaelfisher7170
@michaelfisher7170 3 ай бұрын
Yeah..those red/black "uniforms" don't scream "WE'RE NOT A CULT!" just perfectly.
@AndyMetz-x6q
@AndyMetz-x6q 3 ай бұрын
I commend Josh for his ability to wade thru, and dispassionately and objectively report some of the COCKER-MANY contained in some of these summaries. Man, hijacking God's Word for his own egocentric purposes! "MANY shall come in MY NAME, and say, I AM HE."
@mitrydatespruski
@mitrydatespruski 3 ай бұрын
a fringe sect and obsession with book of revelation - name a more iconic duo
@saldol9862
@saldol9862 3 ай бұрын
Every time I hear “book of revelation” on this channel I think “oh no” Revelation is fully canonical scripture but something feels amiss when a group obsesses over it
@howaboutataste
@howaboutataste 3 ай бұрын
Wow, they seem to be in denial of the Orthodox Church's existance whatsoever!
@saldol9862
@saldol9862 3 ай бұрын
It’s so convenient that they believe the Church ceased existing at the First Council of Nicaea and stayed that way for 1,578 years. Also it seems that some Protestant groups like this are so focused on trying to discredit the Catholic Church and fabricate a history for themselves (see also Baptist successionism) that they forget Eastern and Oriental Orthodoxy exists.
@JeeWeeD
@JeeWeeD 3 ай бұрын
Probably never heard of it when they thought this all up...
@saldol9862
@saldol9862 3 ай бұрын
They seem to think that basically everything from the First Council of Nicaea up to 1903 didn’t matter. So they seem to regard the Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, and Oriental Orthodoxy as non-factors in Christianity.
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 3 ай бұрын
@@saldol9862 Ah, yes, the prophecied period where the Church fails and the gates of hell prevail against it for 1,578 years…………………
@jeffreyrodrigoecheverria2613
@jeffreyrodrigoecheverria2613 3 ай бұрын
​@@saldol9862some protestants don't even know what is the first council of nicea or even know what a church father is.
@ElwoodPDowd1970
@ElwoodPDowd1970 3 ай бұрын
3:26 - According to them, the Church ceased to exist in 325 AD? So they're non-Nicaean? I wonder who they think established the Biblical canon, and when it was established?
@adammarktaylor
@adammarktaylor 3 ай бұрын
Nicaea didn't discuss or define the canon.
@jamesjacob4002
@jamesjacob4002 3 ай бұрын
Um…Right before the Lord Jesus ascended to heaven, he gave each of his apostles a KJV Bible and told them to ONLY teach what’s in that book. Duh.
@HrvojeSL
@HrvojeSL 3 ай бұрын
​@@jamesjacob4002 lol lol
@ElwoodPDowd1970
@ElwoodPDowd1970 3 ай бұрын
@@adammarktaylor St. Jerome says it did, though I admit all we have is his word on it. (Oddly, Jerome noted this somewhere or other when including the deuterocanonical books in his Vulgate. He didn't want them in it, but bowed to either papal or conciliar authority and included them.)
@saldol9862
@saldol9862 3 ай бұрын
@@adammarktaylor It was discussed afterwards at the Council of Rome in the 380s but that still poses a problem. So they believe the Church had essentially died as an institution prior to the Biblical canon being determined in the 380s by an institution that supposedly *is not* the church Jesus founded and hold to an abbreviated version of that one made in the 1500s? Who are they trusting and why???
@MoonbaseEagle1
@MoonbaseEagle1 3 ай бұрын
The flag graphic you used is incorrect for the Church of God of Prophecy but is a modified version used by a subsequent splinter group. There are three white circles around the symbols instead of one large white oval.
@Conankun66YT
@Conankun66YT 3 ай бұрын
a rich church leader justifying his fleet of private jets by calling them fulfillment of prophecy is so brazen that i have to find it hilarious
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 3 ай бұрын
Er, no. Kent assembled a fleet of nine prop planes which he actually used to fly to the Carribean to preach for the CoGP. The CoGP wasn't big or rich enough to buy private jets. When they split he took the fleet with him.
@ulrichkrieg2224
@ulrichkrieg2224 3 ай бұрын
Always hilarious to read about folks creating their own version of Christianity when never read the early church fathers.
@saldol9862
@saldol9862 3 ай бұрын
Same when they start talking about the “sacred name” and Yahshua and using Hebrew all the while when Aramaic-using groups like the Maronites and the Syriac Orthodox have existed centuries before they popped around. My local priest recites the words of consecration in the same language Jesus would have. And they gloss over the fact that Greek and especially Aramaic had largely supplanted Hebrew as day to day languages in the region by the time of Jesus, with your average Jew requiring the use of targum - aramaic translations of hebrew scriptures - to even understand a word. One did not haggle for wheat at the market in Hebrew in AD 30. It’s also really troubling that they believe Christ’s ministry was so ineffective that the Church supposedly lasted like milk in a sauna after the ascencion of Jesus into heaven.
@unit2394
@unit2394 3 ай бұрын
Could you please do a video on the Bible Presbyterian Church and the Southern Methodist Church?
@Origen17
@Origen17 3 ай бұрын
Did they throw out the book of Hebrews?
@liyura8907
@liyura8907 3 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but it is absolutely wild to me that you begin the video describing the founder of the sect's brutal torture at the hands of terrorists, then proceed to omit discussing it at all?!?! Why did they do that to him?!?!
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno 3 ай бұрын
Here's the explanation from prosecutor Daniel Duke (no relation to klansman David Duke) from a 1990 interview: "Grady Kent preached too loud. He was holding a meeting out in East Point and disturbing some of the neighbors. So they went over, and they flogged Grady. Grady said he prayed, and the Lord delivered him. And on the witness stand, he said that they beat him up, and he prayed, and the Lord cured him. We were worried about some of that. But, anyway, they convicted them." So . . . uh, yeah. Let's not pretend the Klan's reasoning is always thought out.
@liyura8907
@liyura8907 3 ай бұрын
@@MAMoreno What on Earth ... Thank you
@jeffkardosjr.3825
@jeffkardosjr.3825 3 ай бұрын
Clarks Summit University, formerly known as Baptist Bible College is closing. With that in mind, could you maybe do a series on notable religious colleges/universities and seminaries?
@isashar7949
@isashar7949 Күн бұрын
Love this
@BramptonAnglican
@BramptonAnglican 3 ай бұрын
We never hear about these church’s in Canada. Thank you for this video. I wonder how American Christian’s feel about this church?
@KMH6290
@KMH6290 3 ай бұрын
They would be probably considered heterodox to most denominations in the US, but to the extent that they preach a biblical Gospel, they would be tolerated.
@BramptonAnglican
@BramptonAnglican 3 ай бұрын
@@KMH6290thank you for answering. We mostly have mainline church’s here and some Mormon and Jehovah witnesses along with Adventists. We don’t see much of the others though that the USA gets
@brucealanwilson4121
@brucealanwilson4121 3 ай бұрын
I'm sure you have some eccentric sects up there. The Hurrerites, the Russian Old Believers, etc.
@brucealanwilson4121
@brucealanwilson4121 3 ай бұрын
They seem to have forgotten the Pauline Dispensation.
@BramptonAnglican
@BramptonAnglican 3 ай бұрын
@@brucealanwilson4121we have more like Jehovah witnesses Adventists and FLDS out west in British Columbia. But we rarely get many of the other extreme ones though I should also say Christianity seemed to have a bit of a harder time catching on in Canada and that may be why it’s harder for a church like this to really catch in Canada.
@stephanottawa7890
@stephanottawa7890 3 ай бұрын
Even their badge is funny. It looks like they cancelled the cross with the shield of David.
@stormythelowcountrykitty7147
@stormythelowcountrykitty7147 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this
@thesleepybardalwayswaiting5260
@thesleepybardalwayswaiting5260 3 ай бұрын
These people sound like the seventh day adventist.
@CCootauco
@CCootauco 3 ай бұрын
They are.
@marcodesalud7034
@marcodesalud7034 3 ай бұрын
and just like the SDA (and every other nineteenth century cult), they have their special prophetic insight to justify all sort of lunacy
@lavieestlenfer
@lavieestlenfer 3 ай бұрын
​@@marcodesalud7034As opposed to older special prophetic insight justifying all sorts of lunacy?
@marcodesalud7034
@marcodesalud7034 3 ай бұрын
@@lavieestlenfer No, I wouldn't say as opposed. Muhammed is certainly another example.
@lavieestlenfer
@lavieestlenfer 3 ай бұрын
@@marcodesalud7034 Or Jesus.
@maximilianusofmarchaorient596
@maximilianusofmarchaorient596 3 ай бұрын
Could you make a video on the LIFE church? It has been extremely active in my country (Austria) lately. Drawing much curiosity as we usually only have dominant Lutheran or Roman Catholic natives and the other varieties commonly are migrant communites (Pentacostal Romanians, Orthodox Serbs, Egyptian Copts, etc). It seems to be an Evangelic church in the American sense and their style of preaching seems rather "charismatic" and modern. I am curious about their origins beyond what I found so far.
@ReadyToHarvest
@ReadyToHarvest 3 ай бұрын
LIFE Church is actually only in Austria, it's founded by Assemblies of God missionaries from Great Britain. In all likelihood they are quite similar to Assemblies of God in other countries. facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4341932575903842&id=153250288105446&set=a.219141641516310
@sird2333
@sird2333 3 ай бұрын
How many different divergent Churches of God are there?
@ReadyToHarvest
@ReadyToHarvest 3 ай бұрын
There's a lot of denominations with this name, but the name is used by different, unrelated groups. For example, there's a ton of churches with the name "Church of God" that are splits from the Worldwide Church of God (Sometimes known as "Armstrongites") Exaples are United Church of God and Living Church of God. There are the Pentecostal denominations that originate in the Holiness Church at Camp Creek, like the Church of God (Cleveland TN), Church of God of Prophecy, and the church in this video, along with a few others. There's the Church of God movement, a holiness but non-Pentecostal bunch, including the Church of God (Anderson, Indiana), the Church of God Evening Light and Church of God restoration. There's the needed Truth Brethren, a Plymouth Brethren Subset, that identify as "Churches of God", There's also the unitarian Group, Church of God General Conference. There's a bunch of others too. I'll make a video someday.
@sird2333
@sird2333 3 ай бұрын
@@ReadyToHarvest Wow. Thank you for you in-depth answer! Have a nice evening! God bless!
@maxxiong
@maxxiong 3 ай бұрын
It's a bit weird to see a group that claim not to be protestant hold to essentially a reformed view of communion
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 3 ай бұрын
But they certainly don't hold a Reformed view of salvation, but are very Arminian.
@profitglen
@profitglen 3 ай бұрын
Jerusalem Acres is only a couple of miles from my home. And Lee University (owned by Church of God) is also here.
@NewspireMakes
@NewspireMakes 3 ай бұрын
@ReadyToHarvest can you do a video on Cowboy Churches?
@ReadyToHarvest
@ReadyToHarvest 3 ай бұрын
I'm in process on this. There will be one by the end of the year.
@BunsBooks
@BunsBooks 3 ай бұрын
Yess, that would be really cool. There’s one near my grandparents in Oklahoma that serves coffee and biscuits before service starts and its in a huge barn, the pastor gives his sermon from atop a horse
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 3 ай бұрын
@@BunsBooks -- I hope, for the horse's sake, that the preacher is not a heavy man.
@saldol9862
@saldol9862 3 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@ReadyToHarvest Can’t wait to see it, sounds interesting Will Christian Science be covered at some point?
@Cincy32
@Cincy32 3 ай бұрын
They had a schism over the Brokeback Mountain reforms.
@josephshlanta8870
@josephshlanta8870 3 ай бұрын
Have you ever thought about doing a video on the Neocatechumenal Way?
@4dwyn
@4dwyn 3 ай бұрын
seems like everyone will do anything. Except follow Jesus
@anselman3156
@anselman3156 3 ай бұрын
Is that occult hexagram knocking over the cross?
@Roescoe
@Roescoe 3 ай бұрын
I guess they're Jewish in disguise, very confused theology.
@jimmydeanpatterson1422
@jimmydeanpatterson1422 3 ай бұрын
I live not too far from this church in Cleveland Tennessee. I view them as a Pentecostal cult.
@IamSnowbird
@IamSnowbird 3 ай бұрын
What was he preaching that got the klan in an uproar?
@niccage6375
@niccage6375 3 ай бұрын
Maybe something that felt too catholic? The klan hated catholics during the early 20th century.
@georgeroberts442
@georgeroberts442 3 ай бұрын
There is a world of difference between passover and the sacrament of the eucharist. The fact that the first eucharist was celebrated at passover is meaningful, but not defining.
@namewitheld2568
@namewitheld2568 3 ай бұрын
I think most of this is beautiful and not unbiblical. God wanted unification of his people and church. Recognizing our link to our Jewish brothers and sisters and our bound futures is the unification Jesus was seeking.
@ashadowawhisper
@ashadowawhisper 3 ай бұрын
Dude, I was a part of a burgeoning congregation that rented space from these folks at their Jerusalem Acres “campus” in Cleveland, TN. They were a part of the “Worldwide Church of God” before they split off. You should really do a video on the WWCG and Armstrongism if you get the chance. I had a friend that was in that denomination growing up. Fields of the Wood also has a replica of the “Garden Tomb”… I dunno if you’ve ever done a video on the Yellow Deli folks but the WWCG and Yeli Deli are full of aberrant theology and doctrines. Amero-centric theology is just beyond strange.
@ReadyToHarvest
@ReadyToHarvest 3 ай бұрын
Hello! This is really a pretty small group, so it's interesting to see you had a connection to them. I'm not sure who you are saying was formerly part of the Worldwide Church of God, but this Church - Church of God Jerusalem Acres - is historically not connected to the WCG. However, there are many other churches with "Church of God" in their name that were, including one called "Jerusalem 7th Day Church of God" jsd-cog.org/ I have some videos on the Worldwide Church of God. This video is on Grace Communion International. (That's the name the WCG changed to, so this is the Worldwide Church of God, but they've changed what they believe.) kzbin.info/www/bejne/paa8Xo1maLV4qpY This video is the United Church of God. It's the largest splinter group from the WCG. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoe3n2Vpl5lmf5Y Here's my video on Twelve Tribes/ Yellow Deli kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZPKnHRoltStm6M
@michaelgale5347
@michaelgale5347 2 ай бұрын
Ready to Harvest - in regards to the flag presented at the 1:57 mark, this is not the COGOP flag/emblem this is actually the flag/emblem of The Church of God(Charleston, TN) which branched off in 1993. The original "All Nations" flag of the COGOP is actually identical save for the three emblems (scepter, star, crown) actually being set in three separate white circles instead of all three being encased in one large white oval as is presented in the video. Basically the COGOP flag has: (0)(0)(0) in the center whereas the TCOG flag has: (000) as shown in the video. Yes the similarities are rediculous, I wasn't there, I didn't choose this flag lol but I love both. As a member of The Church of God, a local Church of Prophecy Marker Association (CPMA) leader and amateur COG movement historian I actually have both flags hanging in my house, I wish I could post a picture lol. Thank you so much for your channel I love watching all of your videos. You have now posted videos about COG, COGOP and TCOG(Jerusalem Acres). If you are ever so inclined to do a video about The Church of God Charleston, TN I would love to talk to you and share information please contact me. I'm easy to find on fb. Thanks again!
@steveschulte8696
@steveschulte8696 3 ай бұрын
This church offers a bit of word salad in their beliefs. They declare that the Lord's day is the Jewish sabbath, but state that the resurrection occurs after the end of the seventh day, hence on the first day according to the Jewish way of reckoning the days of the weeks ("And there was evening [and there was morning,] one day." Genesis 1:5 ) They seem to believe in several baptisms in order to progress towards salvation. Jesus was not baptized several times, but once. Jesus called for the baptism of all men, and Paul cited that there is only one baptism. They seem to embrace a doctrine of faith revealed to one man in the recent past. This is shades of Joseph Smith and the Church of Latter Day Saints. They seem to embrace explanations of events in modern times as prophesied by some one more than 2000 years ago. And they are very anti-papist and against most faith practices today. They are a schism of a schism of a schism of the Protestant Reformation. This doctrine seems to be designed to attract disaffected individuals in the local populace. All this said, they can continue to attract believers until their church is extinct or the final, unannounced judgement of Mankind occurs. Abegg Jr., Martin G.; Peter Flint; Eugene Ulrich. The Dead Sea Scrolls Bible: The Oldest Known Bible Translated for the First Time into English (p. 5). HarperCollins. Kindle Edition. ")
@Gingerbreadley
@Gingerbreadley 3 ай бұрын
Man I love when Christians are like “yeah the loves of bread? That’s actually a secret message about how many religious leaders we will have in the end times” just hilarious.
@DamonNomad82
@DamonNomad82 3 ай бұрын
These guys sound like a Pentecostal ripoff of Seventh Day Adventism, which would make them a cheap knockoff of a cheap knockoff of the Pharisees...
@mbalicki
@mbalicki 3 ай бұрын
18:40 Of course, when in the second half of the 1st century John wrote of “the beast that you saw existed once but now exists no longer”, he must’ve meant the Ottoman Empire. 😂 Thanks for clearing that up!
@benjaminrush4443
@benjaminrush4443 3 ай бұрын
Wow !
@V4nillakid
@V4nillakid 3 ай бұрын
American protestantism has given birth to some very strange things indeed
@howaboutataste
@howaboutataste 3 ай бұрын
The problem with identifying Communion with participation in the Passover is the Last Supper was not a Seder. Another issue is that Pesher has nothing to do with atonement or dealing with sin. Christians make pretend about these things to this day. Which is why most have the good sense enough to play down the Judaism connection, instead of drawing attention to it.
@j.d.1856
@j.d.1856 3 ай бұрын
The Last Supper our Lord shared with His apostles was a Seder, to say otherwise is against Scripture in the Bible.
@howaboutataste
@howaboutataste 3 ай бұрын
​@@j.d.1856And which particular verse states is was a sedec meal? Despite being on the night before the seder meal?
@PShawtx
@PShawtx 3 ай бұрын
@@howaboutataste Matt 26:18,Mk:14:14,16,Lk 22:8,11. Jesus did not use the word seder. When he said go and prepare the place to eat the passover the meal is what we today call a seder. I don't know if the word seder was used at that time. A seder meal is a seder meal even it is not done on Passover.
@howaboutataste
@howaboutataste 3 ай бұрын
@@PShawtx the Passover meal is the meal that is eaten on Passover, that Jesus was absent for. He did eat supper on the night before the Passover in that place. The dinner I eat on the night before Thanksgiving is not a Thanksgiving dinner. The church group in this video specifically complained about Christians observing the Sabbath on a different day. That is one day later and yet claimed that the last supper is a Passover meal despite that was a day early. It's entirely hubris that they do this. This is the definition of a double standard. They specifically state the calendar used by the early church was the same handed down in the Law to Moses. So, the day on which the Passover meal was eaten by the disciples is of crucial importance. The disciples made preparation for this meal, and ate it at the appointed time. Jesus was occupied with other business. It is crystal clear in the gospels that the disciples went home and observed Passover after Christ was crucified. That's when they ate the Passover meal. They did not abstain from the Passover that year. The opposite happened.
@SamlSchulze1104
@SamlSchulze1104 3 ай бұрын
They're so close. They're missing tassels and clean eating habits. They sure do have funny ideas about uniforms and banners.
@gabriellegeorge2648
@gabriellegeorge2648 3 ай бұрын
I thought it was Jeff Bezos in the thumbnail for a second 😂
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 3 ай бұрын
Do they realize that "anointed one" is christos in Greek? Are they deliberately saying they've been led by christs?
@SimonPertus
@SimonPertus 3 ай бұрын
"Hey, guys. Remember how Jesus said the gates of hell will not prevail over the Church? Turns out the early Church apostatized, ceased to exist and was prevailed over for over 1500 years." Yeah, sure...
@Vagabund92
@Vagabund92 3 ай бұрын
19:56 the majority believes what?! They have never been outside the US right? What is a rapture? Some kind of native american paganism? Lol
@WilliamCarterII
@WilliamCarterII 3 ай бұрын
I am a whole entire anthropologist. I will never understand why churches have specific positions on evolution lol "exalts itself against the knowledge of God" is a crazy statement. A lot of my professors were religious lmao Do they think that people are trying to disprove God??? Makes no sense
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 3 ай бұрын
Cuba... that's interesting.
@Bob.W.
@Bob.W. 3 ай бұрын
Oh, brother.
@hiepdoshin7846
@hiepdoshin7846 3 ай бұрын
20th view!
@katesterner
@katesterner 3 ай бұрын
why did the klan beat him up?
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 3 ай бұрын
Apparently they thought he was preaching too loud. Also, Kent was already some form of sacred name preacher before joining the CoGP, so the contents of his preaching might have riled them up.
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 3 ай бұрын
Preaching too loud. Also probably they didn't like what he was saying.
@TurtleMarcus
@TurtleMarcus 3 ай бұрын
A mixed bag, in other words.
@Kahuilla
@Kahuilla 2 ай бұрын
"Restoration of the first century Church" should be the one clue to run. Also, looking at prophecy as predicting future events is such an ignorant understanding of what actual biblical prophecy is and what prophets actually did.
@ninjason57
@ninjason57 3 ай бұрын
within the first 6 seconds I could tell where this was going
@alternativefactory7190
@alternativefactory7190 3 ай бұрын
So they brought back the first century heresy of the judaizers.
@veggiet2009
@veggiet2009 3 ай бұрын
So it's kinda like the same-but-different church, it's kinda like the evangelical church only not
@portallover3478
@portallover3478 3 ай бұрын
I'm a Christian but it's embarrassing at how much we try to appropriate Jewish culture. The only Messianic Jews are Christians with a cultural/ethnical Jewish background.
@katie7748
@katie7748 2 ай бұрын
But but but oUr J-ish rOoTs!! And, of course, all the cherry-picked, taken out of context verses to support it all. Especially once you know who is behind all of it and why... Sigh. It's all so tiresome.
@portallover3478
@portallover3478 2 ай бұрын
@@katie7748 We have roots in ancient Judaism, yes, but that's like a Muslim claiming Christian roots and taking our beliefs and mansplaining them to us. Idk exactly what you're talking about, but augh. It's mostly American Christians that feel like their religion doesn't have any authenticity due to consumerism. So what do they do? Steal other culture of course!!
@marshalldarcy7423
@marshalldarcy7423 3 ай бұрын
THE AMERICAN SCHOLAR "When he can read God directly, the hour is too precious to be wasted in other men's transcripts of their readings." By Ralph Waldo Emerson
@thejuror2009
@thejuror2009 3 ай бұрын
Many typos in this video, brother. A departure from your norm of excellence. One example: “Santification” at about 13:45.
@JefferyHunt
@JefferyHunt 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like a cult.
@SantaFe19484
@SantaFe19484 2 ай бұрын
Their beliefs on end times and airplanes had me laughing.
@mancal5829
@mancal5829 3 ай бұрын
But the "Dark Ages" are nothing but a black legend.
@stevelangridge1755
@stevelangridge1755 3 ай бұрын
When I hear someone claiming to represent the “Church of God” it makes me wonder what other churches they might imply as existing. Church of Satan? Of Elvis Presley? Of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?......
@gregcoogan8270
@gregcoogan8270 3 ай бұрын
The true New Testament "Judaism" is Orthodox Christianity, which was founded by Jesus Christ, not by some dude 2,000 years after the fact. If one believes that the church was "lost" and has to be "restored", then they don't believe that God keeps his promises nor do they believe He is faithful.
@Nazarene_Judaism
@Nazarene_Judaism 3 ай бұрын
We nazarene jews are the Original and true jewish movement Acts 24:5. Not messianics or any of these.
@Lynn-r8h
@Lynn-r8h 3 ай бұрын
Your Nazarene Jewish founder from Texas stole $50 bucks from me 20 years ago when he was taking money for a new Bible and refused to send me one. What was his name?
@MilitantOldLady
@MilitantOldLady 3 ай бұрын
If you don’t worship at the feet of Jesus, it’s heretical.
@tontonbeber4555
@tontonbeber4555 3 ай бұрын
So many people believing in god ... but god believe in Chuck Norris.
@christianstephens7213
@christianstephens7213 2 ай бұрын
Based off these groups the disciples followers Apostasy Immidately I don’t think that can happen . The Gates of hell will not prevail against the Church
@Pandaemoni
@Pandaemoni 3 ай бұрын
19:56 "[T]he majority of Christians today believe that all Christians are going to be raptures out of the world..." Was there some point in time when most Christians believed in the Rapture? Or are they defining "Christian" in some particular way to exclude almost every denomination the evangelical southern U.S. denominations? Or what?
@ArmyMedicRN
@ArmyMedicRN 2 ай бұрын
That church must pretend that the book of Romans doesn't exist.
@LuzianJ
@LuzianJ 3 ай бұрын
Another man, another Sola interpretation, another church!
@PokerMonkey
@PokerMonkey Ай бұрын
Denominations don't matter, they are all Man Made. Jesus created One Church, in Matt 16:18, with Peter as its first head. The Church is the pillar and foundation of truth, 1 Tim 3:15, and the Church is the Final Authority, Matt 18:15-17. In 107AD, St. Ignatius of Antioch, a Bishop in God's Church, wrote a letter calling his Church "Catholic" or Universal. From 1517 on, all other Churches are Man Made so it doesn't matter what they teach or believe. They are heretics.
@thebowshot9341
@thebowshot9341 3 ай бұрын
The Lord's Supper only once a year... that really is a sad state of affairs.
@remymccoy6078
@remymccoy6078 3 ай бұрын
Ooooo shes mad😂😂😂
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 3 ай бұрын
This group claims to be Christian, yet uses the pagan Star of David symbol.
@woody1320
@woody1320 3 ай бұрын
Yikes!!!!!
@gonehome2
@gonehome2 3 ай бұрын
😮😮 POPE FRANCIS JUST ABOLISHED THE PAPACY 😮😮
@kakhazviadadze
@kakhazviadadze 3 ай бұрын
When you read the books of the New Testament you have probably asked yourself many times: "Why is it that for 2000 years we have not seen the miracles that accompanied the Church of Christ in the first century as the New Testament describes them? Why is it that so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed, while atheists have the audacity to deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Church of Christ ceased to exist after the first century. There is no Church as it is described in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other Christian sects, claiming to be the Church, but not having that one thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic only for the Church of Christ - the backing of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mk 16:15-20). That is why part of the researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and part of them do not mind to declare Him a real person, but an ordinary philosopher, a teacher. But even if Jesus was an ordinary philosopher, His disciples would have been ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not have dared to write about the miracles that not only Jesus but also His disciples could perform. If in our time there were a Church as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed - healing the sick, prophesying, raising the dead - no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then all over the world there would be the same disputes as in the first century - Jesus is the Son of God or a false prophet who seduces the world with miracles. Find on youtube the audio message *"The Mystery of the Church of Christ"* . It reveals the prophecy of the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the End of the World, giving hope to all who are sincerely seeking God and who are not lazy to think freely.
@duncanwalla7014
@duncanwalla7014 3 ай бұрын
As a Jew, these Christian’s seem kinda based.
@deathknightsrock
@deathknightsrock 3 ай бұрын
So it’s a dooms day cult.
@E-pistol
@E-pistol 3 ай бұрын
Cute.
@ShaNaNa242
@ShaNaNa242 3 ай бұрын
Judaeizers
@KingoftheJuice18
@KingoftheJuice18 3 ай бұрын
Here we have a Christian denomination that particularly wants to have its Israelite cake and eat it too. All Christians do this to some extent-appropriating the Religion of Israel and its Scripture as something addressed to them-but this denomination feels free to pick and choose arbitrarily which commandments of God still apply and even to call itself "Judaism."
@luelzone7474
@luelzone7474 3 ай бұрын
Basically Messianic Judaism.
@Lynn-r8h
@Lynn-r8h 3 ай бұрын
Nope. I have run across these people. They are very antisemitic. When I say I’m messianic they want nothing to do with me.
@joshlester4659
@joshlester4659 3 ай бұрын
OK. The church of God at Jerusalem acres was never a part of Armstrong‘s worldwide Church of God. I actually believe like they do on most of their points. Where the church of God at Jerusalem acres is wrong is in two spots. Number one, there is only one God and his name is Jesus therefore I only baptize in the name of Jesus Christ, and, Healing is in the atonement as well, so I am also word of faith in my theology, w I will be posting my updated statement of Faith here.
@stephanottawa7890
@stephanottawa7890 3 ай бұрын
Funny how Jewish they try to be, but they cannot seem to make the cut - circumcision is just a bit too painful.
@scm98
@scm98 3 ай бұрын
What's funny is they're not even Jews
@paulcollins5423
@paulcollins5423 3 ай бұрын
Since they're US based, I would imagine most of their male congregations will be circumcised anyway, although I take your point about their official stance (which is more in line with St Paul and circumcision of the heart).
@777lilibeth
@777lilibeth 3 ай бұрын
Here is yet another cult, they try to practice old wine in new bottles, ignoring th commandments of Christ, not accepting the Lord Jesus destroyed and slain the Old Testament on the cross Ephesians 2:14-16 & Colossians 2:14-15 while the Ten Commandments in stone expired Matthew 5:17-18 and Luke 16:16 and is now dead Romans 7:6-7 As God replaced the old covenant, with the new covenant, the Ten Commandments written in the heart. Hebrews 8:6-7 & :8-13 & Jeremiah 31:31-34
@simonskinner1450
@simonskinner1450 3 ай бұрын
The church of God was inherited by Jesus at the Cross, but this organisation bears little resemblance to the real spiritual church controlled by the Spirit.
@marcodesalud7034
@marcodesalud7034 3 ай бұрын
says you, but i don't think what you happen to believe today has much significance for the rest of humanity. every cult originates the same.
@simonskinner1450
@simonskinner1450 3 ай бұрын
@@marcodesalud7034 wow. Christianity divorced from its roots in the 2nd century, and my study has found the only mention of Christianity is where Paul talks of bewitching and beguiling false gospel. I rest my case and conscience.
@marcodesalud7034
@marcodesalud7034 3 ай бұрын
@@simonskinner1450 yours must be a lonely religion
@simonskinner1450
@simonskinner1450 3 ай бұрын
@@marcodesalud7034 I don't like crowds, and the gate is narrow, but I do not keep the truth to myself.
@marcodesalud7034
@marcodesalud7034 3 ай бұрын
@@simonskinner1450 your conception of truth...that amount of faith in your intelligence and insight certainly seems stressful. Every cult originates from the same. But yours is probably the right one.
@Jaheguru
@Jaheguru 3 ай бұрын
Turn back to Orthodoxy ☦️
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