What is the difference between Baha'i Faith and Ahmadiyya Movement?

[@soulistll]

I am a Palestinian and i confirm that ahmadiya get tons of support from the isreali government they get free access free tourist trips and everything they want

[@abrarahmad-mw4dk]

Proof?

[@salam-peace5519]

Some of the claims about Ahmadiyya are not true. Also why the scary music?: 0:44 Ahmadiyya wasn't "supported" by Britain, Ahmadis don't take support from any government as that would be against our principles (Allah and religion is above anything else), the founder of Ahmadiyya simply was against violently attacking the British as that would just have increased the conflict. He critizised the British Government, he just was against violent attacks. 1:02 Ahmadiyya did not create "disturbance". All Ahmadiyya did was peacefully teaching our interpretation of Islam as other religions were teaching their religious views at that time as well (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad often defended Islam against islamophobic speeches of British missionaries). All the disturbance the other side, from people attacking Ahmadiyya. 1:44 With "reform" Ahmadiyya means restoring the original teachings of Islam, as Muhammad (saw) taught them. reform does not mean changing Islam, it means returning it to it's original teachings. 2:14 Ahmadiyya is NOT "blasphemous for islam". We Ahmadis love the prophet Muhammad (saw) more than any other prophet and believe every word of the holy quran to be from Allah. So how is this blasphemous to Islam? The people who call us blasphemous should look at what we actually believe in instead of believing the lies that are spread about us. 2:42 It is not correct that Ahmadiyya only wants to convert sunni muslims. Ahmadiyya is doing a lot to promote Islam in the West to make Christians, atheists etc. convert. Ahmadiyya is open for people of all religions. 3:04 Again, Ahmadiyya is open for all religions, jews can convert as well. Also the Ahmadiyya mosque in Israel was build there before the state of Israel even existed (in the 1920s), when it was all palestine 3:21 No we are not. Our caliph critizied the US and Israeli government a lot. I'm an Ahmadi and I am against these government and all the cruel wars they lead. They are imperialistic and greedy and caused a lot of wars in the middle east. We Ahmadis critizide them a lot. 3:36 The main reason for this was to teach Islam to non-muslims in Western countries. 4:12 We cannot officially perform Hajj because the Saudi Arabian government forbids us to enter Mekka. We see Hajj to Mekka as one of the fie pillars of Islam just like Sunnis, and we secretly do pilgrimage there. 5:18 This is simply not true. We Ahmadis did a lot of charity for Non-Ahmadis, we help all people in need regardless of faith. We give food to homeless people, donate blood and build wells, schools and hospitals in poor countries which are of course for people of all faithes. 5:22 Spending money on building mosques is not different to any other islamic organisation. Mosques are not cheap to build and we also spend a lot of money on charity as well. 6:09 What isn't mentioned is that the main Ahmadiyya movement makes up like 99% of Ahmadiyya. 7:25 Not true. All the division and hate came from the opposite side and Ahmadiyya has done a lot to make people in Western countries convert to Islam.

[@NaserEmtesali]

Your statements are in Italics and my reply is in normal fonts. _Also why the scary music?_ I could not find a better music to present these fruitless 'faiths'. These 'faiths' just created more disunity in an already divided society. _0:44__ Ahmadiyya wasn't "supported" by Britain_ My point was that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was supported by the then occupying forces, the Britain. That is a fact and does not require proofs. _1:02__ Ahmadiyya did not create "disturbance"_ So what it did? Did it brought something good to Humanity? Ahmadiyya Community itself got further divided into other sects! You claim whatever, 99% or any number may be united under Khalifa but the fact remains established that Ahmadiyya community could not unite itself, let alone Muslims! It got split into other sects, failed to bring peace... Mahdi was not supposed to fail and bring peace in 100s years! AFAIK Muslims don't believe in such Mahdi. You guys failed to attract people of other faiths! Where are Ahmadis from other religions? I only see Pakistani (Sunni) Ahmadis everywhere! Is this 'Mahdi' only supposed to bring peace to Pakistanis!? _1:44__ With "reform" Ahmadiyya means restoring the original teachings of Islam_ Such as what? What original teachings it has restored? _2:14__ Ahmadiyya is NOT "blasphemous for islam"._ LOL. _2:42__ It is not correct that Ahmadiyya only wants to convert sunni muslims._ At this timestamp it says that you guys are interested in converting Sunni Muslims. That is a fact. Where are Ahmadis from Shia background? How many such Shia Ahmadis you have in your community !??? How many from other background you have? Baha'is have many people from Christian, Hindu and Jewish Backgrounds! You guys have mainly Pakistani Sunnis following this 'movement'. _3:04__ Again, Ahmadiyya is open for all religions, jews can convert as well._ How many Jewish Ahmadis are there in Israel? From 1920 you guys were not able to convert a single Jew in that land! _3:21__ No we are not. Our caliph critizied the US and Israeli government a lot._ You Caliph may be criticizing but your Community Leader in Israel licks the shoes of Zionists! That is a good set-up. _3:36__ The main reason for this was to teach Islam to non-muslims in Western countries._ You guys only (mainly) converted Sunni Muslims from Asian Countries in Western Countries. _5:18__ This is simply not true. We Ahmadis did a lot of charity for Non-Ahmadis,_ May be some charity. That is why I did NOT explicitly wrote NO. My NO begins with '~' sign. Genuine charity outside community is very negligible except for proselytization. Ahmadis 'love' their Sunni brothers but they don't offer 'Salah' behind them!!! it is hard to believe that they will give them money 'only' on Humanitarian Grounds. All charity is only for teaching their faith to others. _6:09__ What isn't mentioned is that the main Ahmadiyya movement makes up like 99% of Ahmadiyya._ That is a flawed argument. 99% does not make anything correct! When Mirza claimed to be Mahdi 99% of Muslims did not followed him! _7:25__ Not true._ Already replied earlier.

[@salam-peace5519]

I am actually a German convert who was rather agnostic (raised christian) before converting to Ahmadiyya. I know some other German converts, the main thing that holds Ahmadiyya back in western countries is the general islamophobia (which affects all groups of islam). Ahmadiyya does a lot to defeat Islamophobia in western countries by presenting the true, peaceful teachings of Islam. In some other regions of the world there are a lot of non-pakistani converts, for example in some African countries where there are millions of native converts. I also have met a jew who converted to Ahmadiyya. And there is no proof for all these "Ahmadiyya is supported by British/Zionist/Whatever" conspiracy theories, this was just made up by someone who was running out of arguments. Ahmadiyya has critizised the western Greed for money and land a lot and for Ahmadis Allah and Islam are above everything else, so Ahmadiyya wouldn't take any support from any government as that would be contradictory to our teachings. Also look at how Islam has spread during the time of prophet Muhammad (saw), it didn't immediately convert the whole world and at the beginning the number of muslims is small so it is normal for a religion to start small. And it was never Ahmadiyya that started the disturbances, it was the other side that attacked Ahmadiyya that started the conflict. Ahmadis never used violence but a lot of violence was used against Ahmadis.

[@NaserEmtesali]

_for example in some African countries where there are millions of native converts._ This seems to be very similar to Baha'is. They also have 'Millions' in African Countries. Two different 'Mahdis' converting Millions in African Countries from past 100 years! _I also have met a jew who converted to Ahmadiyya._ A Jew!!!? And Millions in Africa! That gives an Idea. There are perhaps more Baha'is of Jewish Backgrounds. See jewbahais.blogspot.com _And there is no proof for all these "Ahmadiyya is supported by British/Zionist/Whatever"_ I state again, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was supported by the occupiers. You know 'Divide and Rule' was the policy of Britain. Mirza's 'movement' was in the interest of British Policies. _at the beginning the number of muslims is small so it is normal for a religion to start small._ Yea. I understand that. How could there be two NWOs? One of Ahmadi's and the other of Baha'i's? Ahmadi's NWO will be ruled by the Ahmadi Khalifa and the Baha'i NWO will be headed by the UHJ! Or they both will work hand in hand...!? ;) _And it was never Ahmadiyya that started the disturbances_ A typical answer that a Babi / Baha'i would give. It was never Babi / Baha'is who started the disturbance it was all Muslims who killed 20 thousand innocent Babis!!!

[@NaserEmtesali]

@@haseeb0898 Ok noted. Even Baha'is believe that Mohammed is the Seal of the prophets.

[@NaserEmtesali]

@@haseeb0898 Ok Noted. Even Baha'u'llah wrote a Tablet to the queen asking her to accept him as the return of Jesus.

[@abeawan3458]

You really need to research brother and stop spreading hate in the ummah and we are called ahmadis after prophet muhammad saw because of his middle name ahmad his full name muhammad ahmad mustafa

[@NaserEmtesali]

Ghulam Ahmad means the servant of Ahmad (Mohammed), I know that.

[@charlesberry1146]

Both Bahaism and Ahmadiyah religions were helped and encouraged by the British imperialism that had discovered crude oil in the middle East region at the time, and they desperately wanted to steal all the newly discovered natural resources, so they sought to further divide Muslims in order to rule them. In the 19th century the British were very busy expanding their tentacles all over the world while they were also at odds with other imperialistic forces such as the ottoman Turks as well as other European imperialistic forces. Read history and you will soon discover that both of these religions are British made.

[@cornflakesmachine300]

“And if he had forged and attributed any sayings to Us,We would surely have seized him by the right hand,And then surely We would have severed his life-artery. And not one of you could have held Us off from him. And verily, it is a reminder for the righteous” (Chapter 69 Verse 45-49)

[@cornflakesmachine300]

ur an idiot and u commit shirk believing that the British can protect liars from Allah. The founder of Bahaism died 4 years after claim, the founder of Ahamdiyya lived for decades after his claim.... This is history, ur junk text is conspiracy/conjecture

[@charlesberry1146]

@@cornflakesmachine300 Stop being a religious zealous but instead remove your blinkers and research objectively and I can assure you that God won't strike you dead or burn you in hell for ever. Be a bit light hearted about all matters related to religions and dogma. Cheers. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqOQlmWEebiHq6c Enjoy watching the above link.

[@cornflakesmachine300]

@@charlesberry1146 Given that ur not a Muslim I don't expect u recognise the significance of [69:45-49]. History bears testimony that whosoever claimed to be the imam mahdi died shortly after.

[@alpslumberjack667]

@@cornflakesmachine300 in this verse, Allah is exclusively speaking to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Moreover, if you know anything about Arabic grammar, these verses are talking about a singular person (i.e Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)). Hence, these verses are not talking about Bab, Ahmadiyya, or any other sect, inclusively.

[@sobiamahmood4813]

0:17, Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is the fastest growing sect in Islam. Alhamdolillah. Google it if you must!

[@NaserEmtesali]

LOL. Baha'i Faith is the fastest growing religion and most widespread after christianity. Google it...

[@722georgetonorge]

I'm confused is that supposed to be a criticism? It sounds like you and the person you are replying to are giving credit to both faiths.

[@tahirahmed7773]

I think Naser is confused with bahai and ahmadi. First of all bahaism is a new religion so you should compare directly this with islam last religion. Ahamdiyat is not a new religion so it will not compare with islam. Islam spread throughout arbian peninsula in Prophet's life even technolgy was not developed , but at the time of bahaullah technolgy also improved then also even after 200 years most of the people not aware of this new reveleation. At the other hand ahmadyat which Is based on lies has get more popularity and conversion. Even a great scientist Dr abdusalam was also an ahmadi. How is this possible that a lier getting more blessings infront of the true prophet.

[@tahirahmed7773]

@Hassan Ahmed Nayyar there were no GPS at that time LOL..

[@tahirahmed7773]

@Hassan Ahmed Nayyar yes, exactly.. tum logon ke bina dekhe Mirza saheb par ganda ilzam lagane ka kisi ko farq ny padta.

[@fareshammoudi9187]

do you have the book. The Bahá'í Faith and Ahmadiyyat: A Comparative Analysis (دین بہائی اور احمدیت: ایک تقابلی جائزہ) ?

[@nasrinmojumder]

Bruh Islam is the fastest growing religion

[@jimmycardent1402]

Excellent and informative video. Keep them coming.

[@CuriousPsych]

One question: have you ever read the Kitab-i-Iqan, or any Baha’i book for that matter? Or even a book about Ahmadiyya Muslim? Super curious if all of this is coming just from a place of anger or hatred towards the two, or if there’s genuine curiosity to start a convo here 🤔. Also, what’s up with this eerie music?

[@NaserEmtesali]

Yes, I have read some Baha'i books but very few about Ahmadiyya. If you have some objections or concerns on my conclusions (other than Music) please feel to write.

[@CuriousPsych]

I definitely came off poorly and I’m sorry about that. Let’s approach this together and navigate these themes that you’ve laid out for us. I believe we’re both searching for answers and truths about our world and existence in it! So regarding the first part where you say they both failed… what would success look like? And what does it mean to create “The Kingdom of God” on this Earth. Not only does Muhammad (pbuh) speak of this, but Christ does as well: “Thy Kingdom come Thy will be done as in Heaven, so on Earth.” (Matthew 6:9-13). So the way I see it is that a few divine messengers of God have shared that this will happen…. But again, what does that look like practically? Does that mean that a giant golden gate will descend from the clouds? That we’ll see angels with wings literally fly down from heaven and relocate to earth? I always felt that if Jesus were to descend from the clouds he would probably break his legs from the fall lol. But on a more serious note, I’ve been playing with the idea that what is meant by this heaven on earth concept is maybe God dropping a bunch of materials on earth with an instruction manual on top that’s titled “Heaven on earth - DIY kit” and we humans have to put in the work to build it. God isn’t going to build it for us. We’re still struggling am I right?! So it makes sense that we need guidance! All prophets/messengers of God have given us an instruction manual at different points in time, and look what we’ve done with the instructions. Every time a prophet shared their message and abrogated the past religion, we followed it for a while (maybe 500-1000 yrs) before it became used as a tool of oppression or to gain power. So maybe there is a reason for a divine educator every couple centuries to help us out and renew the spiritual remedy for the time. But even still, when they give us that instruction manual, what’s the hold up? Why don’t we humans ever get it right and build heaven on earth? What are the barriers that exist today? These are my genuine questions. If the world is on fire, what are we doing about it?

[@NaserEmtesali]

@@CuriousPsych *Answer to the first point:* The Lesser Peace in the Bahá’í Faith is a prophecy of political peace to be established by the nations of the world in order to bring about an end to war. Its establishment will prepare the way for the Most Great Peace, a condition of permanent peace and world unity to be founded on the spiritual principles and institutions of the World Order of Bahá’u’lláh and signalizing humanity's coming of age. In 1912 'Abdul-Bahá was questioned: 'Are there any signs that the permanent peace of the world will be established in anything like a reasonable period?' *'It will be established in this century,' he answered, ‘It will be universal in the twentieth century. All nations will be forced into it.'"* (‘Abdu’l-Bahá in Canada” [Thornhill: Bahá’í Canada Publications, 1987]) *Answer to the second point:* _If the world is on fire, what are we doing about it?_ We are excommunicating Baha'is, we are punishing them with Administrative Sanctions. We are making their lives miserable buy imposing 4 Core activities on them. Forcing them to teach the Baha'i faith and asking for more and more money for teaching and maintaining huge gardens and magnificent buildings in Haifa, Israel.

[@CuriousPsych]

@@NaserEmtesali I’m glad we’re in a agreement that we as a human race are building towards that great peace through our daily labor! A perfect example are the efforts happening in Malaysia! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqWqmYJjj9hlhc0 I often think about how quickly we would’ve attained peace if we listened to Lord Krishna, or the Buddha, or any of the Divine Manifestations of our past. Imagine a world where each and every person, everyday, checks their biases, doesn’t backbite, is honest and truthful, approaches every conversation from a place of consultation and curiosity. Wouldn’t you want that? As for the sanctions, and punishments…. Teaching is just a natural consequence of a human’s need to be educated. Your high school teacher most likely found joy in teaching you and hearing your epiphanies! Maybe you had a good question once that challenged their understanding, encouraging them to see things differently. That’s the beauty of teaching is that everyone involved in the process can learn! Paying for gardens? That’s no sanction. That’s called paying dues because, well, capitalism. If you were a gardener, I’d pay you for your services so that you can hopefully beautify my garden. Why would I pay you? Because it’s a way of showing my appreciation for the work you do, and so that you can make money to also thrive in society. What are your thoughts?

[@NaserEmtesali]

@@CuriousPsych _Imagine a world where each and every person, everyday, checks their biases, doesn’t backbite, is honest and truthful,_ Babis (predecessors of the Baha'is) have killed many Muslims in Iran. Baha'is have also killed many Azalis. ...the Bab ordered to kill non-Babis, burn all non-Babi books, destroy Muslim shrines, shun all non-Babis, remove all non-Babis from 5 major cities of Iran. The Babis were a cause of at least 3 civil wars in Iran. At least 20 Azalis were killed by the Baha'is. Source : www.iranicaonline.org/articles/babism-index The names of a number of Azalis murdered by the Baha'is are given by Edward Browne in the Persian Introduction to Nuqtatul-Kaf, p. 42, and also in New History, pp. XXIII, XXIV, and J.R.A.S. July 1889, p. 517 I am not getting your points regarding Sanctions and Punishments imposed by the Baha'i Administration. This is what the grand-son of Baha'u'llah once said : "I personally hesitate to commit myself [to the Baha'i faith] with the existing conditions amongst us, as today we observe only the differences of ideas, lack of cooperation, discord, enmity, selfishness, and hatred-while we should believe that smiles are better than frowns, kindness better than coldness, commendation better than criticism, sympathy better than deception, love better than hate, friendship better than enmity, unity better than discord, and peace better than chaos." (A Lost History of the Baha'i Faith, by Eric Stetson) The hate against different opinions is impregnated in the roots of the Bahá’í Faith. This just came up very early after The Bab's death when followers of Bahá'u'lláh and Subh-i-Azal started to kill each other.

[@makeamericanativeagain2227]

Mirza Hussain Ali Nuri better known as Bahaullah and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad both claimed to be new prophets, second coming of Jesus and being the mahdi. At least one of them was a liar, because both of them can not be mahdi and Return of Jesus…

[@shazsssss]

where did u get these satistics from, there are many ahmadis in iran and way more in india

[@NaserEmtesali]

Your source?

[@MrJibrail]

Obviously Naser Emtesali has not been well informed, meanwhile, Ahmadiyyah has tried to reform Islam, Bahá'í faith is the newest revelation, independent as Islam itself, from God to humanity Ahmadiyyah tries to give another interpretation to Qur'án and Bahá'í faith has its own scriptures, apart from it, the scriptures from other religions like: Gathas (Zoroastranism), Torah (Judaism) Gospel (Christianism) Qur'án (Islam) are well accepted and respected

[@NaserEmtesali]

If Baha'i Faith is from God, then Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a liar, imposter. Read this: _Whoso layeth claim to a Revelation direct from God ere the expiration of a full thousand years, such a man is assuredly a lying imposter. We pray God that He may graciously assist him to retract and repudiate such a claim. Should he repent, God will, assuredly forgive him. If, however, he persisteth in his error, God will, assuredly, send down one who will deal mercilessly with him. Terrible, indeed, is God in punishing!_ (Kitab-i-Aqdas)

[@hassanadedoyin8062]

Actually none of the two is a true preacher

[@MrJibrail]

@@NaserEmtesali you have said so. And it is word of God

[@NaserEmtesali]

@@MrJibrail That was a quote from Baha'u'llah and he claims divinity for himself! For me both Mirzas are charlatans.

[@MrJibrail]

@@NaserEmtesali I know it is a quote from Bahá'u'lláh, that's why I said that it is word of God. I don't care what you think, I can see you don't know anything

[@hassanadedoyin8062]

The two are one of the Dajjals prophesied by holy the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him in many Hadith.

[@hyperxplays]

You trust hadiths more than the quran?

[@ganyracman3169]

The two are false!! Islam in jesus is not dead!! He is alive..

[@cornflakesmachine300]

“And when Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary, didst thou say to men, ‘Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah?’”, he will answer, “Holy art Thou. I could never say that to which I had no right. If I had said it, Thou wouldst have surely known it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy mind. It is only Thou Who art the Knower of hidden things. “I said nothing to them except that which Thou didst command me - ‘Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.’ And I was a witness over them as long as I remained among them, but since Thou didst cause me to die, Thou hast been the Watcher over them; and Thou art Witness over all things.” (Chapter 5 Verses 117-118)

[@shazsssss]

naser emtesali where did u get the information about the ahmadi's because half of the stuff you've said is utter nonsense. for example why would we only convert sunni muslims we can convert whom ever we please (by the grace of Allah), also we belive that muhammad (saw) is the seal of the prophets and finally we decive NO ONE to convert as in the quaran it states that "there is no compulsion in religion" and we abide by that very teaching. ( these were just to name a few)

[@NaserEmtesali]

_why would we only convert sunni muslims_ Read it carefully, I have said that *most Ahmadis* were Sunni Mulims ( see 2:23 ) and that you people are more interested in converting them ( 2:43 ). At least I have seen Ahmadis from Sunni background only. How many of Ahmadis of Shia background you have? How many from Jewish background? Where are verifiable proofs? _we belive that muhammad (saw) is the seal of the prophets_ You guys believe this: Prophets after Mohammed can appear within Islam, their prophethood is dependent upon and reflective of that of Muhammad, that is, within his Seal. (Wikipedia) This is a twisted interpretation of Khatamunnabiyyin. I think Baha'is clearly believe that Mohammed is the Seal of the Prophets of Adamic Cycle. _finally we decive NO ONE_ At 2:51 I have stated that you people are *less deceptive* than Baha'is. What is your opinion about Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement? _these were just to name a few_ Please state other also.

[@kullerhck]

@@NaserEmtesali This is not twisted interpretation! In arabic lexicon Khatam doesn't means end or seal. Ali (as) had the title Khatam-ul-Auliya which means "Seal of Friends of Allah", is Ali (as) the last of Allah's friends? NO! Khatam in arabic lexicon is used for meaning beauty and perfectioness. Which means that Khatam-ul-Auliya means that everyone who want to be a friend of Allah (swt) should be like Ali. He is the example. Same for Muhammad (saw). Khatam-un-Nabiyeen means that everyone who is to be a Prophet need to follow the Role Model of Muhammad (saw). It is a very simple thing but this term got so distorted over centuries that even Bahai Cult couldn't understand it trying by metaphorical meanings.

[@kullerhck]

@@NaserEmtesali The usage in Arabic Lexicon of Khatam-un-nabiyeen shows that ONLY Ahmadis believe in khatam-un-nabiyeen as it should be believed. Other interpretations are simply "Additions" to the first interpretation that can or not be in accordance to the facts.

[@NaserEmtesali]

@@kullerhck Thanks, you are correct. But *you cannot be sure* that the same meaning of Khatam-un-Nabiyeen is applicable to Mohammed also, unless you believe in the continuation of prophethood after Mohammed. According to the Baha'is (since they have descended from Shia Islam) Mohammed is the final prophet for the Adamic Cycle and that the Twelve Imams succeeded him and that the path of Shia Islam was correct until the appearance of their prophet, the Bab. In the pilgrim notes of Marguerite R. Sears, Shoghi Effendi is reported to have said: _Ali was the true head of the Moslem Faith and the First Imam, not the Caliphs. The Caliphs put Ali fourth but He was the first Imam. Shiah Islam is the closest to the truth not Sunni. The Sunni Muhammadens have to become Shiah to become Bahá'í._

[@NaserEmtesali]

@@kullerhck That is your claim. Every cult has his own claims.

[@arafathrm]

Ahmadees are True followers of Khatamunnabiyyeen Muhammad SA.

[@JaizOnlineProjects]

It is untrue to say Ahmadiyya jamaat doesn't believe in seal of prophet. Because all Ahmadiyya jammat believes in seal of prophet to be Muhammad (saw).

[@NaserEmtesali]

Even Baha'is believe that Mohammed is the seal of prophet. Both have cooked their own theories! Compare your theory with the Baha'is.

[@pil_low]

@@NaserEmtesali You lied. Ahmadis believe Muhammad (pbuh) is the "Seal of the Prophets". In 1:49 you wrote Bahai's believe that but not Ahmadis. Shame on you. This is not about some theory. You yourself eloborate some theory behinds it. That's your fault. Do Ahmadis believe Muhammad (pbuh) the "Seal of Prophets"? Answer is yes. That's it.

[@NaserEmtesali]

@@pil_low What do you mean by "seal"? Enlighten me, please.

[@pil_low]

@@NaserEmtesali "Seal" means "Seal" that's it. Quran says so, we believe it and why you guys need to replace it with another wordings?

[@pil_low]

@@NaserEmtesali You did a pure unjust here . If you have an enligtened meaning for "seal" you have to say that Bahai's also don't believe in "Seal of Prophets". Unfortunately, you just pointed out a wrong information.

[@tahirahmed7773]

If you are comparing two things, make sure that both are in the same category. Bahai's started a different religion with new low bearing prophet but not Ahmadis, infact Ahmadis do believe prophet Mohammad(saw) is the seal of the prophets. And Ahmadis follow everything that is in Islam compare to them who are so called Muslims. Is anyone here who can prove me that ahmadis are not muslims? But make sure you have proofs not fake assumptions on Ahmadiyyat.

[@NaserEmtesali]

Even Baha'u'llah believed that Prophet of Islam is the seal of the prophets. *"Salutations be upon the Master of the World and the Teacher of the Nations (Muhammad) by whom came to an end Messengership and Prophethood and [salutations] be upon his progeny and companions."* (Baha'u'llah, Ishraqat wa chand lauh digar, p. 293) _Is anyone here who can prove me that ahmadis are not muslims?_ That is not my job and I am not at all interested in Ahamadism. I am only interested in Bahaism.

[@tahirahmed7773]

@@NaserEmtesali i said this because in your video you have showed that Ahmadis are not believe Mohammad(saw) as the seal of the prophets. And i have commented this because Bahai faith is a different religion from Islam but not Ahmadiyyat, it is a new sect inside the Islam.

[@NaserEmtesali]

@@tahirahmed7773 Who is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad for you? Isn't he a prophet? www.alislam.org/messiah/ this page states "Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad - The Promised Messiah Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad - The Promised Messiah - _a prophet to unite mankind in the Latter Days"_

[@NaserEmtesali]

Even Baha'u'llah claims that he wants to unite the mankind. But that poor fellow failed to bring unity to his own family!!

[@tahirahmed7773]

@@NaserEmtesali Mirza Gulam Ahmed(as) is prophet, no doubt. Do you have?

[@djsjansusuajsb2180]

Just so everyone knows one of Nasers goal is to make Baha’i and Ahmadiyya hate each other cuz he calls both of our groups cults. Don’t be a sheep and fall for his tricks and lies. I am a Baha’i and I have love for Ahmadiyyas and hope they do not get persecuted, us Baha’i are being persecuted too. We may have disagreements in what we believe to be true but let us remember humanity first and keep being good with each other and not fall into the fitna and traps Naser and ppl like him are plotting against us. May the One True God protect us and God will only cause the enemies to have more confusion and unhappiness and their plans will fail.

[@NaserEmtesali]

_I am a Baha’i and I have love for Ahmadiyyas_ WTF?? _Whoso layeth claim to a Revelation direct from God ere the expiration of a full thousand years, such a man is assuredly a lying imposter. We pray God that He may graciously assist him to retract and repudiate such a claim. Should he repent, God will, assuredly forgive him. If, however, he persisteth in his error, God will, assuredly, send down one who will deal mercilessly with him. Terrible, indeed, is God in punishing!_ - Baha'u'llah (Kitab-i-Aqdas)

[@djsjansusuajsb2180]

@@NaserEmtesali I believe Bahá’u’lláh is the promised one not Mirza Gulam Ahmad but that does not mean that this disagreement will make me want bad for them like you do. Bahá’u’lláh teaches us to be good to all of mankind even if we disagree. Your persistence in trying to pit the groups against each other is making your agenda even more clear. 😂

[@daniz4775]

After seen this video I'll left this Jamat...Insha Allah

[@cornflakesmachine300]

and have u left?

[@mrpurplejeans]

I disagree with your claim of Baha'i deceptively getting more people Mirza copied Baha'i purposefully

[@NaserEmtesali]

That's fine. You have the right to disagree. However it would be better if Baha'is and Ahmadis hold a public debate and conclude who is the real Mahdi, so it becomes easier for the Muslims and other people to follow him. :))

[@mrpurplejeans]

@@NaserEmtesali what your saying is fair I'm simply saying slot of what ahmadiyya said was stolen from Baha'i

[@NaserEmtesali]

@@mrpurplejeans Yup. Baha'is claim so. Even Baha'u'llah copied a lot from Hinduism and Sufis. There is a research paper by Juan Cole titled “Wittgensteinian Language-Games in an Indo-Persian Dialogue on the World Religions”, you may like to read it.

[@mrpurplejeans]

@@NaserEmtesali your a Muslim right

[@NaserEmtesali]

@@mrpurplejeans I don't discuss my religion with this username.

[@faizaneameen]

Both are false

[@ataurrehmankhalid7611]

Main difference: The founder of Bahai Faith rejected the law of Quran and evidently claimed to be God ... The founder of Ahmadiyya faith never claimed to add or less something in the law of Quran

[@NaserEmtesali]

I think this point is covered in the video in a little different manner.

[@nusratullahshaikh1688]

Very informative video one thing you missed is this bahais believe adam(as) to be the first man & fist prophet while ahmadis believe adam (as) to be the first man but not the first prophet .love from indian muslim.

[@NaserEmtesali]

Thanks. Can you provide proofs to confirm this statement of your's: _while ahmadis believe adam (as) to be the first man but not the first prophet ._

[@tahirahmed7773]

This is how misunderstanding begins.. Ahmedis do believe prophet Adam(as) is the first messenger of of GOD but not as the first human being on earth because in holy Quran chapter-2ayat-30, Allah says He is going to appoint a prophet or khaleefa on earth, then angels were asked, did any disorder(bloodshed) occur on the earth? Angels asked this question only because there were existence of humans. And it is very simple to understand that, Allah send his messengers to purify human beings, if there were no humans then why messenger was required?

[@JaizOnlineProjects]

For the author of this video there is a flaw in the title. It will make more sense if you compare Jamaat Ahmadiyya to the ALL remaining 72 sects. Then single us out. That will be a better conclusion right? Ahmadiyya jamaat is the 73rd sect. Alhamdolillah why don't you find out for yourselves do you own research www.alislam.org.

[@NaserEmtesali]

There is a flaw in the Ahmadiyya. Real Mahdi is Baha'u'llah, Mirza Ahmad is a fake one. Why don't you find out for yourselves do you own research www.bahai.org !!!!!!

[@masroorhasanudoy]

Wrong information

[@NaserEmtesali]

[@SunnyAhmad05]

okay, this video is LOL.