What is the E-4 Mafia

[@markthomas913]

"I have no knowledge of any such organization, and if I did, I would not be at liberty to disclose it".

[@CliffWagner]

Mark, good to know - thanks!

[@veteranhoffman6776]

As a former E-4 “Specialist Fourth Class” from the Cold War Era, I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of such an organization within the US Military……. I have no idea what this Major is talking about…… 😏

[@CliffWagner]

Thank you for your comment and your support!

[@davidpickens8800]

The best is the godfather music in the background explaining the e4 mafia

[@CliffWagner]

Glad you approved.

[@futurecat]

Yeah that cracked me up.

[@vegan-cannibal714]

this is a 100% true story. During Operation Desert Shield. my troop had a single water buffalo. I noticed a medical unit a few clicks away had five. I grabbed my crew and Bradley. we drove over to the medical unit hook a water buffalo up to the tow hitch drove back to our platoon area. I repainted the bumper numbers and called it a day. the next morning, Top starts asking where our new equipment came from. I made a big show of looking at the bumper number and said it looks like it's the trailer to my Brad. Top looks me in the eye and said we had to share with second plt. then made sure it got filled every day. you missed one thing. the e4 mafia moto don't ask questions you don't want to know the answer to. That's what the moto would be if the e4 mafia was real anyways, but it definitely isn't.

[@CliffWagner]

Thanks for the Desert Shield water buffalo acquisition story - good times! - Mad respect!

[@bloodniron957]

Really appreciate an in-depth and experienced look at such a mythical and shadowy organization. Can't wait to see you cover other aspects of the military that may not be regularly discussed or discussed at the depth that some would prefer. Loved the video!

[@CliffWagner]

Thank you so much for stopping by and leaving a comment! It is appreciated! - Cliff

[@treyedean]

Procure, Expand and Liquidate.

[@CliffWagner]

Alegedly.

[@doylebrockman8225]

Keep it coming Sir Shamalot. I was a Full Bird Private. However, after 2 yrs. I gave in and went to The NCO Board, then NCO Acadamy. It was time to decide to re-up for Sgt. or make my recent decision to get married in my choices. Once again i made the wrong choice. I have succeeded in civilian world, but always had the Hunger. Lesson learned too late. Only my civilian success has made me feel almost comfortable. Something can never regain.

[@CliffWagner]

Will do and thank you for your comment and more importantly, for your service!

[@LexLaptopCoffee]

I escaped both Army active duty and a couple years Reserves with my sham shield. Was on night shift monitoring the network on my Active Duty deployment. Watched a lot of anime, ate pizza, and nobody was tracking if I did PT! Lol. Reserve deployment: ended up going with a unit from another state to Iraq, so nobody really cared what I was up to. They put me on convoy recovery for a while after giving our work repairing NVGs to the contractors, so that was just chilling in my bunk listening for if we were gonna go out. Then they took me off Recovery Team w/o telling me anything else to do, so I had a couple more weeks of chilling unsupervised before they put me on gate guard. Played the heck out of my PS2 xD

[@CliffWagner]

Well done!

[@satt131313]

In the USMC it’s a little different. Marine Corps E-4 is a NCO or corporal. When I was in you didn’t advance in rank as fast as in the Army. We had the Lance Corporal Underground. The ‘senior’ Lance Corporal is the most cunning of all Marines. They know every hiding place and when to relocate. If they’d put half as much effort into doing work as they do avoiding it, they may have been promoted by now… They’re getting out and everyone knows it If you demand his respect without earning it, he’ll tell you to climb up his ribbon stack and get it. He either has a job lined up or an acceptance letter to higher education. They’re immune to the threat of an NJP because you can’t stop time. Sooner or later, we all get a DD-214.

[@CliffWagner]

Thanks for sharing your point of view - much appreciated! The discussion around the E-4 Mafia is fun in all branches.

[@mexicool187]

I enjoyed my time as an E-4. Now on to the next rank for me... OCS and second lieutenant.

[@CliffWagner]

I traveled the same path - best of luck to you in your career!

[@mexicool187]

@@CliffWagner much appreciated. I've learned so much from enlisted.

[@HeavyJay1421]

Dam sounds like fun. Almost wish i joined.

[@CliffWagner]

Thanks for checking in!

[@patriotinfidel3033]

My Ncos got me more alcohol than 4 day passes for my services in the e4 mafia.

[@CliffWagner]

That worked too - pretty amazing the things that can get done quickly when the right motivation is applied to the right people... Stay frosty brother!

[@isaacflores109]

Lost it at 6:24 “shamurai” 😂

[@CliffWagner]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for the comment!

[@jetmorbid]

I'd walk around with a sheet of paper on a clipboard.

[@CliffWagner]

Obviously inspecting something or something...

[@jetmorbid]

@@CliffWagner and walking with a purpose 😂

[@scottbaron121]

"Procurement and problem resolution". Sounds like an E-4 issue to resolve. If that actually existed. Which it doesn't. Allegedly.

[@CliffWagner]

I'm sure I don't know what you are talking about, but thanks for stopping by the channel...

[@GenXMafia]

I was the Caporegime of the E4 Mafia Ft. Knox MP Company crime family from 90-95. Joined up in 87 did my first stretch in Schweinfurt Germany from 88-90 with the 981st MP Co. Loved being an MP and loved even more being an E4. I watched the bullshit the NCO’s had to endure and decided early on that I didn’t want any part of it. Seen an E5 get a bad NCOER because one of his soldiers went home on leave and got a DUI and somehow this E5 was responsible for that. Also the points for MP’s to get promoted to E5 were astronomically high like in the 950 range and rarely dropped. I literally saw E4’s go through all the bullshit to become promotable and never make 5 because of the points and they wound up ETS’ing. But mainly I had zero desire to be responsible for shit I had zero control over. That was the deal breaker for me. Fuck that! Yessir 8 years of being a full bird private, command private major! So to all my made members of the E4 mafia I say to you all, SALUT! 🍻🏴‍☠️💪🏼

[@CliffWagner]

So say we all!

[@jasonzacharias2150]

It's nice to see a e4 Don get made.... Calling in some favors this election year... God speed out there ✌🏻👼🏻🤟🏻

[@CliffWagner]

Thank you brother and thanks for supporting the channel!

[@Zederok]

Reforger 1990, MP squad providing overwatch and security on a Lance missile battalion and we lost coms for the next site. 7 minute deactivation window for every fire mission (as I recall). Squad Leader looks at me and says holy **** what do we do. I replied relax, I got this. Drove into the nearest town made a call on an unsecured phone booth (German line) got coords and met the air def battalion at the right spot. That's all I'll say, Squad Leader got an ARCOM out of that exercise and SSG Gibbs let me have every bullsh*t detail off the rest of my time in country.

[@CliffWagner]

Thanks for sharing - clearly you know...

[@xXtylermhigginsXx]

I was part of the E-4 mafia air force division. Good times

[@CliffWagner]

Thank you for your comment and for your service!

[@thirtytrap]

Been there don that!! All The Way!!

[@CliffWagner]

Sham on - it is the way!

[@timothyhollingsworth1557]

The music though lol

[@CliffWagner]

Thanks for stopping by brother!

[@kenhall490]

As a commissioned officer you are completely unqualified to explain this subject. You should have referred to a specialist on the matter.

[@CliffWagner]

That makes for a good theory, of course my first eight years were as an enlisted soldier with at least two years as a Specialist, E4 and member of the E4 mafia. So, better luck next time.

[@markthomas913]

Blue Falcon. 😎

[@darkomtobia]

He would have, but they all had an appointment...

[@johngillespie3409]

4:15 off the books 4 day. retired E-4 mafia 11C with double oak leaf clusters.😎1993 at NTC we got loaded up on deuce and a halves for hands across the desert. An NCO came and said they needed 2 volunteers. Nobody raised their hand. They threatened to start picking people. I said fuck and raised my hand, with somebody else. They said get off the truck, they have too many. Go sham. Got some hate for that. 🤬1995 at FT Hood, we were going back to NTC, our E-6's HMMWV NEEDED doors before putting it on the rail car. In the motorpool I got the vinyl doors off the only one that would and could replce with no problem. Our Lt Col's had brand new ones. get doors, got doors.🤣We got a new E-7, who just came from supply, so we got lots of extra stuff, socks, MREs, vehicle camo, and my favorite a parachute in our Cav unit. Still shamming.😎 Thanks for the Delta comparison, awesome. My dad, 6 years in the Navy as a F-4 mechanic stayed the same rank E-0, was partners with Ron Franklin of Delta.

[@CliffWagner]

John, thanks so much for the back story, I appreciate your comment. Sham on brother!

[@lord_kinbote3920]

Guys who already exhausted their limited supply of f's to give a long time ago.

[@CliffWagner]

Yep.

[@kavijackson868]

Do E-4 become gangstalkers later on or do what is called military assisted policing?🤔

[@CliffWagner]

That information is classified and transacted only on I need to know basis.

[@Angie12278]

We are always a few steps ahead to disappear😎

[@CliffWagner]

Thank you for your comment!

[@Angie12278]

@@CliffWagner 👍👍

[@ericpuckett2948]

Long live the mafia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@CliffWagner]

If they existed...

[@gubnillec]

Screw PLDC..BNOC..

[@CliffWagner]

Thanks for sharing!

[@veteranhoffman6776]

7:26 Sir, with all due respect, you are revealing that-which-must-not-be-revealed….. we hereby revoke your favored “prior shamurai service”, if we existed, which we don’t…

[@CliffWagner]

That period of my military service record no longer exists or has been so heavily redacted as to render it unreadable. Sufficeth to say that I was successful enough that no evidence of my activities or contributions to the organization that we both attest does not exist - never existed. Thanks!

[@99PMoon]

I do not know these words you talk of.

[@CliffWagner]

Thanks for checking in!