What is the Human Limit for Geometry Dash?

[@elynox1730]

its weird to think that future top players might not have even started beating demons yet

[@theoboueid6450]

Hell, they may have not even started playing the game lmao

[@lap7850]

theres a pretty good chance the best player to ever play gd hasnt touched the game yet

[@niceuuuuuu]

Oh you mean common sense? Yeah

[@LRexChess]

HI ELYNOX

[@elynox1730]

@@LRexChess HI LREXX

[@xNyyct]

can you imagine Slaugtherhouse being somewhere in the top 20, 30, 40 it will happen, its just a matter of time..

[@v3c4notfound20]

Hey luv ur videos

[@cashmoneyouo9009]

Imagine it going into the legacy list

[@MrNexis3]

Honestly it could happen but not in 2.1. I think that 2.2 will give creators many tools to push the game to even higher limits. I just don't see slaughterhouse leaving the top 10 or even the top 5 before 2.2 comes out. Acheron took zoink 3 months to verify and that shows something. You would have to get the absolute BEST players and they would have to dedicate hours upon hours into verifying some beast of a level.

[@fan0]

Hi, I watch ur videos

[@shieldbug]

this comment will age well

[@TrideGD]

Damn how have I missed this style of video from you recently? Really interesting and I definitely agree that as long as there's still new players with determination coming into the community, we're a very long ways off the skill cap. Really enjoying this style of video!

[@LRexChess]

Tride gmd

[@bluecarrot174]

yo tride

[@A.DiCarlo9]

Hi tride

[@Beef_Cooker]

UwU

[@lnflixity]

yoo tride

[@OneAlphaHelix]

Sorry if some of my words got butchered. I battled through tonsillitis in order to get this out on time. I want to start uploading at least once per week :)

[@optiant]

gl

[@junjun8855]

Acheron just got verified 🗿

[@optiant]

@@junjun8855 it got verified 9 hours ago and also, alpha is probably gonna try being first victor

[@50Steaks68]

Tonsillitis? Otherwise known as a sore throat? Lmao

[@opaquePF]

@@50Steaks68 🤓

[@theweirdpurplephantom1398]

Update:the current top 1 is tidal wave and the longest level is called Eon which is 56 minutes long

[@_LBH_]

Actually Timeless is the longest level

[@WilliamandElvinRblx]

Its not rated or extreme demon​@@_LBH_

[@plusworld-official]

9:38 "spaceuk" yes ofc spaceuk yes yes however we didnt know about *that* back than

[@philbon_]

For those who don't know, The Third Variant has been verified using a bug that sync the frame perfects with 60fps. It was done on accident and there are no reliable way to reproduce the bug. What it means is that TTV was beaten like it was 60fps frame perfects and not 360fps, making it way way easier. This makes Paraballa (28 60fps frame perfects) & Final Fantasy (this challenge has 32 very hard jumps, 14 frame perfect on 144fps or 5 frame perfect on 240fps) the hardest timing challenges. With that said, this was discovered way after the video was released and OneAlphaHelix had no way of knowing it, just wanted to inform since I saw no comment adressing this. And also, Acheron was verefied and dethroned Slaughterhouse.

[@explodamite]

Aod avernus and silent clubstep too

[@duck323]

if tartarus becomes easy demon then imma have a heart attack on the spot

[@givikap120]

It will never become easy demon, what are you talking about

[@DanielQwerty]

If it becomes an insane demon I’m done

[@remmy9549]

@@givikap120 it’s a joke bruh

[@remmy9549]

@GIGACHAD OSU??? 🤢

[@Jeampoules]

You forgot that in 2.2 rob said that he will make gameplay as similar as possible on every frame rates making levels like slaughterhouse almost impossible, we are talking about a raise of difficulty to the point where spaceuk might not be able to beat slaughterhouse again. (Basically frames will be maxed at 60)

[@Airborne7263]

Its funny to think that a level called 'Walter White' is harder than 'Zodiac'

[@EHMM]

walter white

[@dalunciooo]

sadly it's kinda trash

[@xykleogd7180]

Waltuh you are a top demon waltuh

[@LoominousShroominous]

Walter white stronger than the zodiac killer 👍

[@jovial-yt]

Mark this. One day, one time, I will complete a 7 minute long level filled with 360hz frame perfects(60hz). Only a matter of time, dedication and skill.

[@jwjustjwgd]

That last part got me thinking, I'd love to see a video comparing the hardest things accomplished in GD to the hardest things accomplished in all video games to see how GD stacks up in difficulty among the entirety of gaming

[@dreamsdicc1817]

I do see some speedrunning tactics that require a lot of skill. One of them was in a mario game, it was like 30 clicks that had a 2 frame gap. Which seems pretty easy compared to some of these accomplishments in gd

[@berendberend702]

It's basically impossible to compare difficulty between different games

[@jwjustjwgd]

@@berendberend702 the basically impossible is my favorite place to dwell

[@AVerySkilledShadow]

@@dreamsdicc1817 bro also dont forget about subpixel perfect jumps in smb3 speedrun, also they exist in smm2

[@envisionformula4007]

Do not forget that IF the game receives more updates, the new game mechanics and features will undoubtedly be used to make even harder levels which may still be in the realm of possibility.

[@Granolora]

2.2 snek pek 2

[@notlightbeam4889]

Just thr fact that we can go upwards and backwards already raises the difficulty of future extremes

[@dreamsdicc1817]

Not necessarily. The update will add more to the game making newer levels difficult until players are use to them. If you think about it, acheron doesnt become easier all of a sudden, it stays the same difficulty no matter what. New levels will be harder until the new mechanics are mastered and become easier

[@LucasAPC06]

Fun fact that most Top 1 demons were almost all of them larger than 2 minutes long… Bloodbath, Sonic Wave, Bloodlust, Plasma Pulse Finale and Zodiac. And now most of Top levels are around 1 minute long…

[@Hydraniac]

fr, older top demons had so much more soul put into them. i hope the next top level has much more gameplay time and actually has amazing effort in stuff such as gameplay and deco.

[@FustinJields]

​@@HydraniacAscension to Heaven is coming!

[@Hydraniac]

@@FustinJields ascension to heaven may be my favorite upcoming top 1, thanks for reminding me of it!

[@LumenGD2]

Tidal wave

[@file4318]

Extremely good video, I loved how it was thought provoking rather than conclusive.

[@hmmm7586]

imagine in the future a gd level will be a family tradition and is passed down to further generations until beaten

[@lnvald]

Aeternus

[@dreamstage寧々]

Ballistic Wistfully

[@themartiangobi]

7:41 Not just Acheron, Eternal Night, and Orochi! Theres also Kyouki, Limbo, The Devil, Avernus, Deimos, The Human Limit, Poocubed, Exasperation, Kocmoc, Azure Flare, Amethyst, Edge Of Destiny, Silent Circles, Haunted Corridor, Unknown, Disturb, Outards, Africa Circles, Apocalyptic Trilogy, Death Corridor, Galaxy Collapse, Rain, Incommodiousness, Ton 618 Remake, Eyes In The Water, Rare, The Yangire, and Ascension To Heaven. There are probably more, but that's some.

[@Neekso]

Fun fact: If you remove the S from Slaughterhouse it becomes Laughterhouse. English is weird.

[@squishyduck8059]

Ok space, verify it. OOPS, forgot, you hacked! 😂

[@NeverNormal_GD]

was that supposed to be funny because it isnt

[@nerdporkspass1m1st78]

Amazing video! It covered all topics very well.

[@joshdeconcentrated2674]

7:20 demon park wasn't the hardest level at the time, it was just a really well known hard level which had the difficulty named after it. there were many other more difficult levels, but as they didn't garner as much attention they weren't used as inspiration for a new difficulty

[@fan0]

For example F

[@ozone8897]

Yes it was

[@joshdeconcentrated2674]

@@ozone8897 you

[@GygX]

such as? The hardest leveld for both 1.0 and 1.1 weren't any harder, so it would be hard to imagine any levels released before demon park that were harder (keep in mind to the grave came out after)

[@CaptainMolloPro]

BP night

[@LiNDa3433_]

Bro when he was describing the difficulty of ttv my jaw dropped. I didn’t… know it was that hard holy fckn.. 18 TIMES!

[@doruk7125]

it includes a lot of luck and you don't need to learn the gameplay because its just cube jumps but yeah its still really hard. don't think its top 1 tho

[@WilliamandElvinRblx]

Your jaw dropped? Jawbreaker lol

[@raynboy6448]

The most difficult extreme demons in 2030 be like: - Super long levels (Over 5 minutes or more) - Challenges you on every gamemodes, not mostly on wave like Slaughterhouse did - 2.2 new triggers - Intense electronic/metal/rock songs - Insane dedication (like +500 attempts for the verification or something)

[@A.DiCarlo9]

+500 ? remember knobbelboy's +100k verification atts for bloodlust, damn the amount of dedication and atts for the future will be insane

[@PopYTP]

500💀💀

[@-swaggysquad-]

You mean 500k?

[@raynboy6448]

@@A.DiCarlo9 I can already image it but I think 500k is a little bit too much but idk

[@raynboy6448]

@@-swaggysquad- Yeah

[@blizzardy858]

update: tartarus is almost in the top 20 after having a reign of top 1 for over 2 years

[@abwasserpumpe]

„but with enough time of practice..“ *8 million years later* Good video

[@meloetta_lia]

9:13 Firework syncs to the VL song

[@gilB20]

there are already upcoming levels that has the difficulty as you said, levels like adramelech are like old EN but during 5 minutes that are planned to be human limit (if it gets finished). good vid

[@PikaSmasha]

I personally think that way, way in the future the human limit would be around about Misanthrope difficulty. I feel that no matter how hard we try, we'll get nowhere near something like Ballistic Wistfully, obviously, though maybe i'm underestimating humanity, and the hardest would be a level that had a consistent difficulty throughout of about the hardest part of Sakupen Circles with the length of Return 420/0, though, even that's pushing it a bit. It would be both funny and beautiful to see something like that get verified and it would probably (Literally) take about 1,000,000 attempts to verify, maybe even more.

[@Spod1s]

6 years ago silent club step was considered literally impossible and unbeatable

[@flleaf]

5:34 i always forget that the true values of life isn't rated

[@GDGroundflower]

It's crazy how a game with only 1 input is one of the hardest games of all time.

[@nievillis]

i used to be in daily contact with the 4th victor (incl verifier) of slaughterhouse, i never expected him to be able to beat stuff like tartarus, let alone slaughterhouse. Wish i still had more contact with him, but so many irl factors kicked in, which made it impossible for me to be active. Its a different experience seeing someone grow to this level of skill over 3 years. We beat our (back then) new hardest insane demons on the same day i think. But im glad it got to see his growth in almost full length

[@exiled_shadegd]

It’s cool to see how much you’ve grown since this point

[@NickAndriadze]

Yeah, length is absolutely an underrated element when it comes to difficulty. There's a reason why Dark Travel, a level that would be an easy demon (And for a long time, even *was* a medium demon) if not for its 6:30 minute length, is an insane demon. If Falling Maze, officially the hardest minigame in the entirety of Geometry Dash is only about 1:30 minutes long, I could only imagine how hard it would be if YoReid made the level utilize the entire song lenth...

[@UselessAccountt]

Don’t forget The Long Walk Home, it’s literally 11 minutes long but the only reason it’s not more than an easy demon is because the gameplay is extremely slow and sight-readable (also not really related to difficulty but music is extremely calming making it easier to focus, just imagine if Slaugtherhouse kept Lost as its song)

[@gdbeamz2762]

6:59 voice crack 💀

[@MATTMATTMATTMATTMATTMATTMATTA]

and it took sAH-ven

[@JarmezGD]

I think at some point super long levels will have to become the meta to push difficulty further.

[@TaxEvasion1452]

2 player mode still isn't standardized in harder levels, and in the future more game modes will get added too. Don't forget 2.2 is closer now than its ever been as well.

[@chocolatebarcatofficial]

OneAlphaHelix in Part Two: “Length” Eon over here: *SCOWL*

[@Mitch01115]

Ever heard of "this was made before eon?" Also who says " *SCOWL* "

[@Mitch01115]

It makes sense why you didn't know better since you were born in 2013, you are either 10 or 11, get outta youtube.

[@lool8421]

what if we just got a mathematical way to calculate the difficulty of the level? like every input gets its difficulty value, based on its room for error, visibility, sync, position in the level, then raise to an exponent because doing 1 extreme timing is harder than doing multiple easier ones, then sum up the difficulty of all inputs, raise to an another exponent because doing them all in a row is much harder and finally multiply by the length of the level based on some formulas, giving you a way to mathematically calculate the difficulty of literally every level

[@jackal1]

I mean this value would be almost impossible to calculate for ship because the difficulty of ship has very little to do with timings and more so control.

[@yajtubeteevee1677]

🤓

[@elsamuga]

0:53 the average player will possibly never beat an extreme demon

[@Ecl1psed276]

You said 50% consistency at a 360fps frame perfect is a bit too generous, but if Skoe's consistency was 50%, he would expect around 2^18=262,144 attempts in order to beat the level. So either he got lucky, or his consistency was actually *better* than 50%.

[@jacksonjudy1077]

Or he HACKED?

[@br0k3n.wind0ws]

​@@jacksonjudy1077no

[@ryanmayr5795]

Blowing dreams speedrun luck out of the water😭😭😭 that’s hilarious commentary I love it

[@WilliamChiara]

5:40 isn’t larva espera 15 minutes long?

[@AuLumity_idol_is_GawrGura]

My plan for top 1 was two player level that its just top 10 in difficulty by two player, but doing it alone will be hard due to little amount of people having that skill

[@BennyCocoPop]

ILL levels be like:

[@2natism]

if its top 10 w 2 players, its top 10, the difficulty to do it alone doesnt mean anything, if it did codependence would definitely be list worthy, maybe even main list

[@theRotengen]

@@2natism Well, that happened.

[@2natism]

@@theRotengen lmao

[@kingleanie]

"see these jumps here" no sir i do not

[@WClap]

There is no limit it take years upon years to finally have the biggest verification every done

[@sphericalcat1434]

“Geometry dash is a very hard game” Stereo madness: Am I a joke to you????

[@notsuoh7233]

love how theirs and upcoming top 1 called the human limit

[@MachoBread]

if im being honest, i think we've gone far past the human limit. there's only so far you can get before it starts becoming luck, which isn't really human anymore. so i think the hardest thing possible to do consistently is the human limit.

[@videoviper19]

Imagine Nessus being in the top 5 or something in like 5 more years still in update 2.113

[@PopYTP]

nessus requires millions of clicks per seconds, with a level length of multiple hours. i doubt that even if someone engineers robots specifically to click that fast, the level won't be beaten ever, along with most levels on the sll.

[@Naka-wc3yo]

nessus is googols of years long and requires billions of clicks a second, but that would still be funny af tho

[@LarkeyFactorial]

@hollowytp thinking about dolorem aeterna?

[@aykarain]

6:42 why does the background music sync with the background level... i dont think its meant to

[@seedbobo8055]

Anybody know the music that started when he mention a long walk home around 6:00 ???

[@wardishfr]

Solace of oblivion

[@Scopa777]

As a french guy, I can confirm "La chatâigne" was criminally mispronounced XD (his pseudo actually means "the chestnut").

[@mcloughlinguy4127]

There’s a few errors with the description I wanted to bring up: Make your choice was composed by Pinpin Neon, not DM Dokuro, and the link for it is the same link as the Betrayal of Fear one. Also great video, hope you’re having a nice day!

[@camellejacobs8355]

I've played for 3 years and still can't beat the lightning road.

[@YearoYT]

Me: *Reads the video thumbnail* My head: "That's what she said"

[@wunjo2166]

5:35 this is not true, there is a longer rated level called Ludo which is a mini game 2 star and is 16 minutes long

[@tortistortis]

tvol is 48 minutes

[@wunjo2166]

@@tortistortis not rated

[@tortistortis]

@@wunjo2166 not even gonna lie I thought it was a 4 star feature lmfao

[@ihavenoidea198]

Imagine one of the future top players have watched this vid.

[@Mitch01115]

7:46 road sheet

[@viperxtra188]

It matches with the song 0:35

[@Mech3001]

“The current hardest level is slaughterhouse” Acheron: Imma end this mans whole career

[@xenai.]

Im pretty sure that i heard in 2.2, you wont have to worry about having higher frames making the game harder? That something would fix that or something

[@AlexTT666]

Now this is a very well done commentary video! Enjoyed watching it.

[@alexhenley6098]

I feel like the “Adramelech” layout essentially covers much of the criteria that you spoke on.

[@elylove267]

yeah it easily throws aeternus into water

[@supermanplayergd]

i love the geometry dash creations and its so beautiful and some of them are fun

[@cubehead-exists]

The limit is reached when there is a click you do that guarantees for it to group a finger’s atoms, making a void click occur.

[@MasterDog009-ux5ew]

bro doesn't even know he's the one needing good luck (10:44) because he's verifying FlameWall

[@mregg7157]

0:17 as someone who has 1.2k attempts on Time Machine, can confirm it's the hardest level in the game.

[@rngesus66]

Whenever I see a video where they mention slaughtherhouse as hardest level, I just think ,,spaceUK look what you've done"

[@effortless4588]

Gd is such a great game to train your reaction time

[@Yrubully64GD]

+1 1100 hours

[@HaydenDom]

a bit sad vsc wasn’t mentioned since it’s undeniably harder than slaughterhouse and arguably harder than the third variant but whatever

[@WSAlex60505]

4:14 does that mean this will be impossible on 2.2?

[@sileudies]

Yep

[@dfwrailvideos]

Besides the many new players who may be top players someday, the real question is how many will use the circle ball and the rabbit icon?

[@fan0]

No idea, probably 99% of top players would use white rabbit and white circle ball

[@SJapplesYT]

6:28 what is the ng song for this. I dont remeber the name but am familiar

[@courierdubois]

Personally, I think TAS will take over the demon list once it reaches the human limit, and then TAS records will start to be accepted, due to the sheer difficulty of even doing TAS on the hardest levels.

[@zythe3236]

I think refresh rate has alot to do with it considering silent clubstep was considered impossible up until 360hz made the ship very much possible

[@Entity64-cu6ki]

9:39 “space UK” Yup, that definitely aged well😭

[@abacus6034]

Is there any extreme demons that use extreme metal music? IDK just feels like it makes sense (and is a pun), although i am new to GD and dont know many levels at all.

[@numenx9]

Orochi is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.

[@numenx9]

Tho it's not out yet

[@Beef_Cooker]

Acheron is here. I am going to cry myself to sleep.

[@Zachery20079]

Yeah I’d love a video on how to improve

[@PolishCage]

what is human limit for geoemtry dash? me:silent circles *leaves video*

[@theotherdashmelted]

UPDATE: The longest rated level is not TLWH but rather a level called Larga Espera clocking in at 15 minutes! (You could complete 1⅓ of tlwh in that time)

[@madnesscg]

Slaughterhouse is my favorite Top 1, out of all of them, tied with Limbo and Sakupen Circles.

[@Snipekas]

good documentary! also respects for using the replacement song for slaughterhouse, im really tired of hearing the NONG.

[@Zatt_v2]

хороший контент для такого количества подписчиков)

[@leandrusguy144]

id say something like africa circles is the end lmao

[@mmorrell1986]

When the video has chapters, you know it gonna be good 👍

[@moz6388]

I 100% believe there is a human limit. Like it's physically impossible to keep this going forever. Acheron just got verified and already the top players are complaining about how bullshit and unfun it is. Now imagine 5 years from now when acheron is like top 15-20. The limit is close but still very far. But there absolutely is a limit.

[@VovanPo]

We are like 20 years away from the human limit in gd, gd will die faster than we reach it.

[@OwOMoment]

also you should do a how to improve video, i spend way too long per level (probably because of dumb jumps) so that would be very useful

[@Bamlbo]

Humans are just going to keep evolving and they are never going to stop getting difficult imo

[@gravitygames4495]

are you playing lofi beats to destroy exo mechs to in the background??

[@sarahyoung583]

You know about Return 0? That is SEVENTEEN MINUTES of level. Yes, you heard that right, 17 minutes.

[@BaylorRobinson]

great video as always

[@Pyxllozen]

"well the gd demons back in my day were better than this new 72.3 update, still cant believe robtop gave his game to his long lost cousin"

[@newalexgamer3172]

did you know, just finishing the main levels of geometry dash for the first time, is harder than reaching the end in dark souls for the first time

[@moz6388]

1000+ Hours on every dark souls game. Can confirm.

[@inali_illustrates9142]

Isnt abyss of darkness number one though? Or did it get rated lower?

[@TaxEvasion1452]

it got rated #2

[@inali_illustrates9142]

@@TaxEvasion1452 one sec imma look on pointercrate

[@inali_illustrates9142]

@@TaxEvasion1452 well dang you are right, honestly I kinda feel bad for Exen

[@Bliger29]

The hardest upcoming top demon is a hard question. For me, Azure Flare, silent dictras and orochi are the hardest, but orochi and silent dictras have really slow progress. The new top 1 is acheron, but the next after acheron is probably eternal night

[@Spod1s]

right now Acherons harder then eternal night

[@watchbestbest]

why the music of slaughterhouse are changed ?

[@Pixey003]

copyright

[@watchbestbest]

@@Pixey003 ok

[@Tournament999player]

It’s the original song not the nong version

[@RenardioMFG]

It’s because the song for Slaughterhouse song isn’t on Newgrounds, which is the source that gd takes its music from

[@xwisteriaGD]

This is a great video good job lol

[@togrulnamazov817]

And here he is verifying flamewall

[@StudioDevapriya]

You took the words right outta my mouth.

[@aidend0]

theres always gonna be that one insane japanese dude with no limit