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[@MindDrifter_Ed]

The part about understanding.. Very powerful.

[@hannahbejarano3729]

Hey man, don't worry about the uploading. Your content is not the easiest content to make. Take your time. We have a lot of lectures to go back to.

[@mayleica]

Oh my God, this is the most amazing video I've seen ever. Seriously, I can't stop crying. Its so deep and indeed, thank you for all of this job, your knowledges are brilliant

[@HD-Australia]

This is the deepest talk/video I have listened to. I am searching for a quiet place in the house to sob, fruitless pursuit. For the sake of my children, I have suppressed much, but you Sir have touched and massaged the place of my suffering and pain.

[@Sweet_Steve]

You are a real ENTP magician, and inspire me to become an INFJ magician. I thank you for every video you have made.

[@generalpatton838]

I'm recovering from the pain and rejection from my former childhood friend's tongue had caused being a scathing ESTJ, and thankfully, because of you CS Joseph, I now understand him a lot more and am able to heal more and move on as a result. Fragile Fi Child needs love. Thank you for your contribution. Keep up the good work. -INTJ

[@CSJoseph]

you are most welcome sir.

[@TheAlverd]

Jesus Christ, I was searching for this message for last 2 weeks. For this insight, which is so obvious after stating. ISTJ here. The message not to fight and find means to kill pain, but to embrace, accept it and learn from it to gain wisdom about your suffering. You helped me in adding meaning to this hurtful experience. Thank you.

[@looovee1000]

Thanks for making me tear up twice... In the train

[@sydneychuke1881]

Really appreciate the honesty at the beginning of the lecture

[@hillaryho]

The dark vibes are pretty nice for this conversation haha. I enjoyed this content immensely. As always, thank you for your time and energy; we appreciate it very much.

[@RoseyCreations]

This is my favorite video from you, maybe all of KZbin. I had to take a moment not to get too emotional. You're simply the dopest CS :)

[@henkster6067]

I have rarely seen anyone been so real, raw, transparent, vulnerable, truthful, humble, hurt and inspired in one go! You are the 4th person I've ever seen the real person within come out ... I'm speechless. I'll edit the comment when I have words for it....... Thanks for being real and showing it ♥

[@abesapien9930]

"If you understand pain, you know what's missing, and you seek after it." Profound. Thank you for this very open talk, or confessional of sorts.

[@livingdiystyle]

By far my most favorite lecture from you, Chase. I loved your humility and honesty. Thank for helping all of us to understand each other better. The knowledge you’re sharing definitely helps to keep peace with family and friends. It is a gift, thank you!

[@junkmail8883]

Beautiful video, Chase. Love how honest you are and how you keep it real. Take a break though - lord knows, we have so many of your other videos to fall back on. I don't think a single person has actually caught up with your lectures.

[@shanaadams4456]

Awe you're way too hard on yourself. I feel for you during this video. I really like your channel. You're brave to put yourself out there in such a raw honest way ♡

[@CSJoseph]

thanks

[@valentynabelofsky9374]

I honestly think think this is one of the best lectures

[@CSJoseph]

Much appreciated.

[@BookofYAH777]

48:10 "nobody understand me" what if someone understands you but you're just not aware of it?

[@javierjordan5319]

You inspired me to change my life. I moved from my country and start to seek for a new path. I can say im starting to feel happy, or at least not depressed anymore. Its time for some pain!! Thank you very much.

[@CSJoseph]

you are most welcome

[@A.J.Breadman]

So where are you now?

[@jessicamarievee8411]

Thank you for your vulnerability. It's so important with helping others grow. You're amazing. ❤

[@erinjk123]

Have a great day Chase.

[@ghettomama4real]

Wow this was so deep. I have tears in my eyes. Thank you so much for being so open and daring to share your pain with us. You are literally changing the world! Keep going!

[@heavensmilesonyou]

You are killing it Chase. You're back story is pretty intense and your phoenix-from-the-ashes story is awesome. I too am drawn to this whole subject because I didn't understand people. Thanks in large part to you, it's getting a bit clearer. this is your legacy and it's amazing and it's changing lives For Real. Keep on rocking it. I'm a huge fan!

[@hrithikrana932]

I broke at 31:48 . Love you, man. I goof around in your comment section sometimes, but I admire your work with my heart.

[@henkster6067]

Glad you're OK bro! Was worried! 😯

[@margos666]

I've been gaining more respect and appreciation of you with every single lecture I listen to and every single moment you open up and be sincere. This season is not just a better one in terms of content, but it has something of a better... of you? Thank you very much Chase for your hard work, both intellectual and emotional. P.S. Not to say I agree with all you say in this season: for goodness sake, I'd rather keep on developing my mature masculine and let the guy be my caring and respectful queen :D

[@CSJoseph]

whatever works, please read the boy crisis

[@margos666]

by by Warren Farrell and John Gray? Added to my to-read list

[@HARUNOboy17]

This is all so important. Thank you for endeavoring to this point so you could share with us this knowledge.

[@BookofYAH777]

29:40 I'm not gonna follow my heart. I'm only gonna follow YAH's heart

[@queenofeagles]

Definitely understand wishing to be understood, yes. Female here.. Enjoyed the ISTP video you made. Good stuff! Hope to catch one of you all's group discussions

[@dagmarkalinova]

That thing with your first girlfriend brought tears into my eyes. You are so strong for sharing this and other bad things of your life. I have great respect for you and your teaching. I wish you to find happiness, you deserve it.

[@meghanthompson2599]

You're the man! Your pain brought you much wisdom to share. Thank you for your transparency.

[@rebeccaa5279]

Thank you so much for being so real and honest about your journey. Another inspiring lecture. Your love and determination for your work and your audience really shines through. Your videos are helping me greatly. Thank you.

[@Entyipo]

Wow this was the only video of yours that sort of made me emotional. Anyways how are you on your Lover development now?

[@CSJoseph]

It's a journey, I do my best I hope I'm doing well. Living in the moment can be a struggle.

[@kurodesuuuu]

I almost cried when you told about Molly. She sounded like an amazing woman. May her soul rest in peace I think I finally understand why it's important to develop the Lover archetype last now. Only from the sorrows can you actually learn to appreciate the joy. The saying by Buddha -"Human life is suffering" makes more and more sense every time I hear it

[@Damian-ho1yb]

That's the most romantic lecture yet!

[@kayla6926]

Hey Chase, I appreciate and admire your vulnerability and courage. I think it is one of the reasons why your work is so meaningful and so full of positive impact. I learn more than just the personality types from you. :) When you said that you feel guilty that you're not the best father because you're not near your kids on a daily basis, it made me kind of sad to hear that. On the contrary, from meeting you at that first Meetup group and from watching a ton of your videos, I think you are a great father. Even though you may not be near your kids on a daily basis due to circumstances, I can see that you work really hard to make the world a better place for them and for others. That in itself is huge. (I wonder, did you get sick because you were juggling so many things at once? O_O) Don't be so hard on yourself; we're only human. Keep up the great work and remember to take care of yourself! And thank you so much for your work! :) Sincerely, Kayla ISFP

[@CSJoseph]

thank you Kayla, I admire your big heart and think highly of it. Also miss you at the meetups.

[@kayla6926]

@@CSJoseph hehe, you're welcome. I'll try to swing sometime soon!

[@shinoyashino7995]

I thank you for your effort in improving the world . For real, i am reminded to cherish my past suffering. It made me what I am now. You speed up my growth too. Thanks.

[@oussama8717]

I am literally doing a full time job watching your videos .

[@Hybe123]

Loved the video. This one was very personal. Props to you man! Keep up the good work and take care!

[@jillgrow9172]

[singing] Pain - you made me a, you made me a believer... (sorry, I couldn't help myself - it's an awesome song)

[@absinthesesotericadventure7631]

My dear friend! :,( I literally cried! Hugs! I have had a similar journey, I understand how you feel and what you have been through. I wish I could send you a gift (I make things with my hands hehe) you are a great person and you do help many people. Even though I am still new and I bumped into your channel on accident, everything happens for a reason :) I hope you have a wonderful thanksgiving with your family. (My son is an ENTP too, he is still little; 8 years old) Everything you said I see him going through it in school and stuff. I have to sit with him more and let him talk

[@CSJoseph]

much appreciated ^^

[@BookofYAH777]

43:50 "if people are faced with death or success, they tend to succeed" - not necessarily. For example Ukraine war - massive casualties happen on both sides.

[@coconutmilch2351]

i love how you said that you've been told that you come across as a creep and then here you are making a video in the dark 😂 but also same: i don't know how to enjoy life and it. pisses me off. i'm constantly collecting knowledge like some thirsty child but i find it so difficult to allow myself to spend time doing things PURELY out of joy. and then recently i was like welp, if i'm not going to do things i enjoy, i might as well knock some obligations out of the way so that i'm at least doing SOMETHING (like if i'm not going to enjoy anyway, i'll do what is most productive and potentially stress relieving) so now for the upcoming few weeks, every day that i have off from work is filled with some not-so-fun-but-need-to-get-done thing. and to be honest, just scheduling those things into my calendar and making those damn appointments is making me feel better. i feel like ok, maybe after this hurricane of chores i'll feel lighter and maybe enjoyment will happen on its own. also i moved away from the bay area to the east coast at the end of 2018 but as soon as i come back, i want to come to your meetups. i'm utterly jealous of everyone who gets to currently go to your meetups!!!

[@Leneah99]

I cried at the story of Molly...Thank you for reminding us that sharing vulnerability does not necessarily equal weakness. It shows your humility and your humanity. Something this former perfectionist workaholic has to keep in mind every day. Look after yourself and enjoy, create at a realistic pace for you, those who care enough to wait for your quality content will wait.

[@CSJoseph]

thank you, much appreciated

[@diatomshells]

Do not be troubled, you will get there.

[@NB-pc8zk]

This video reminds me the value of moving forward in my journey as a 22 yr old (intp) community college student pursuing my A.S. in Math and not staying stagnant. Everyone is dancing with their respective Shiva WE CAN ALL SUCCEED FAM!

[@juni260]

I like the video angle @, and I think this was a very well made video, and I really also like how you made references to Shiva. you're a mature strong human being, from my point of view, with so much wisdom. it's a big inspiration for..me..for us. very big. you're actually the most wisest person I've ever seen, and I love seeing how passionate you are about this. I really really admire you. Let me tell you, that you're brilliant. what you are doing is meaningful.

[@CSJoseph]

Much appreciated.

[@DevixXfire]

Thank you so much cs joseph you are great man

[@CSJoseph]

much appreciated

[@udontgothere]

Beautiful. Im a new student to your channel and share your passion and purpose of improving the world through knowledge. I loved this video and feel your experiences. I hope to attend a meetup in the furure.

[@CSJoseph]

welcome, and thank you.

[@jacktaylor1801]

Don't worry about editing your videos. You've got too much going on. Edited videos will NOT improve content and waste your precious time.

[@kurodesuuuu]

You said your 2nd deepest need, other than being trusted was - to be understood. So a person's need are- the inferior & child function?

[@CSJoseph]

Not for all types.

[@final378]

Dude, focus on your well being and i'm glad you realize that. I just want to thank you, your videos guide me to better understand myself and to guide my life in a better direction. I'm really glad i stumbled on your channel. Keep up keeping up.

[@wearejungians]

and so the time has come for my most needed archetype :D woohoo!

[@Hadeel.414]

I don't care about the quality and these stuff your content is different and unique from any channel 100% and yeah please take your time I said that three time , you have the right to enjoy your life ❤

[@austinwilliams8174]

This was an interesting video, thank you for your time on this video. I started watching your videos when I was 19, a little over a year ago if I am not mistaken. And now I have been able to move out on my own start my own business up as a health coach I’m still working a full-time job as well as going to school for psychology.If you are ever in the Houston area I would be more than happy to host a meet up. Thanks for everything you I have done and are willing to do for the betterment of the future

[@CSJoseph]

you're welcome bro

[@rauliuxaa]

I think that ISTP sounded a little bit like me, restless, always looking to do something that makes me and close people happy being fully present, sharing joy and love in my life with people while inspiring them and others, and when with these good intentions i hurt someone i care about without meaning to do so, that's where downward spiral comes, because i don't want to do so, but i also want them to understand some things and grow. I start blaming myself, my energy shifts and i end up in the bad place. Also i notice if i'm in a bad place and i can't give something joyful or positive to people around me i also feel bad, because that's what i would love to do, and when i can't i feel even worse. Sounds like an addictive lover right? My energy expands to give good energy, but i kinda suck at empathy or sympathy when it comes to words, most of the time, because i prefer action... i feel for people, if i try to make them feel better and talk about emotions, support them, they call me a robot which also hurts, even tho i'm trying to understand them it's hard for me , i express things that i feely deeply, but i'm kinda stoic about it , and they don't feel like it's genuine. Any tips on improving these things ?

[@arrenlights5750]

Hey Chase, I don't know if you still look at old lecture's comment but hey I'll ask anyway You said it's useful for female viewers to watch these men videos because they can have standards to hold their man to. So I was wondering as a gay male, should I have the same standard than women? That me and my partner both be King-Warrior-Magician-Lover while expecting masculine archetypes in the other, and that we both neglect the feminine archetypes within our couple?

[@julianwan]

Your videos mean a lot to your audience - I'm a gay ENTP who found so much insight into my own problems, conflict with my ENFP significant other, and my own path to development. If you're feeling burnt out, remind yourself how much people appreciate and watch your videos.

[@CSJoseph]

thank you sir.

[@teamthoth]

Why are we sitting in the dark?

[@lizzywhite4231]

charmaine684 why not !!!

[@melodyraemusic]

haha

[@teamthoth]

Update: It was a 30 sec wait to get the answer. Which makes this question silly... but I'm glad you posted. Don't burn out!!! I don't have any advice but I'm cheering for you from afar.

[@gloriamusic0728]

I guess it's how he's feeling. I mean I know he's an Ne dom and I'm an infp with a Ne parent. It seems really symbolic and apparent that he likes changing it up A LOT Anyways, he's a good guy

[@treasurem2491]

Hes vulnerable, i think theres a form of hiding.

[@Crisgarciatv]

Bro: Shiva was a male, Shiva means "that which is not" is not even his name, it is to clarify the fact that he was beyond it all, he does not have sexual relationships with a man, he was married to Parvati (a woman), which became enlightened thanks to him through sexual practices. He was considered to basically be the admin of the universe, had a couple of children, one of them is known as Ganesha for example, the elephant headed godman, Shiva is also known as Adiyogi Shiva which means "the first yogi" because he created Yoga, he lived about 4,500 years 60,000 years ago and is also considered the ultimate Zen Master because he could do anything in the physical world like cut his little baby's head and put an elephant head to replace it because he accidentally killed him... it was a mistake! The one with the head on her hand is Parvati, his wife, after the orgasm and the one laying on the floor being stepped on by Parvati is Shiva again. Also he realized there are only 112 ways to attain enlightenment (look it up, it's exquisite) , 112 for regular human beings, there are 112 chakras in the physical body and you can get enlightened like that, actually there are 114, but the other 2 chakras are outside the body, above the head, like Jesus had one of them, there's a second one bigger than that of Jesus but those are only for the ones beyond it all. That being said I'll keep watching the video, I hope my message is informational for you, I love hindu culture :)

[@CSJoseph]

much appreciated I am not an expert on hindu culture

[@A.J.Breadman]

I don't know if we are suppost to "reach" enlightenment. Humans are designed to move forward, and something I have noticed in my life is that when I finish a task I immediately want another. This is why I like Jesus so much, because he says follow me, and have sanctification (become holy over time) this always gives me something to do and be because I will never be god, but I can try to be like him. I believe God/Jesus are/is the pinnacle of everything, so by following him I am chasing after the pinnacle of pinnacles and always moving to enlightenment. So maybe enlightenment and sanctification are very close if not the same and we are always suppost to be moving to the pinnacle of pinnacles (what ever that is) and be in the PROCESS of enlightenment/sanctification.

[@A.J.Breadman]

CSJ. When a fool trips and falls they do not get up, they have no reason to. On the contrary, when a wise man trips and falls, he gets up, and tries again. I dont care if you think your a hypocrite, every one is. The difference is some people understand that they are and try to make a difference.

[@generalpatton838]

14:52 There must be opposition in all things; if we didn't experience pain we wouldn't know what joy is; without misery there would be no happiness. Even the Mormons "Book of Mormon" talks about this.

[@CSJoseph]

dope.

[@diatlemaboe9942]

The first half of this video moved me to tears, I literally have no words so I'm struggling to articulate. But firstly, I love you too, all the way from South Africa. God can do for you far more than i can through my encouraging words and/or advice. I can only keep you in my prayers. It is often the burden of the gifted to live such a hard life because we live a life of service. Don't dwell too much on the past, it is all written. Take care.

[@CSJoseph]

Thank you

[@A.J.Breadman]

It's an actually shame this video has so few views...

[@plasma.]

I love this video I have learned and will continue to learn from you (And I wish for you to reach many many subscribers and viewers so that you may teach as many people about understanding others and whatnot, but I also know it will take away you being able to read all if not most comments. Just a random edit)

[@kian1941]

Most I remember is pain and bad memories ,gotta love that Si demon. And I've been through so much that I mostly forgot how to use my Se to give people a good experience , Is there any ways to fix it?

[@CSJoseph]

practice

[@kian1941]

@@CSJoseph will do

[@D3tyHuff]

I'm somewhat of an addicted lover too, in the sense that I want to learn everything and never specialize in anything, and then one day I get sick and tired of learning and want to create something with what I've learned, but then I see that I was too superficial when learning and all I can do is discuss and speculate but never take any action, so I lapse into extreme depression with constant suicidal thoughts. Of course, the word "lover" seems rather weird here since it has nothing to do with human love, since that is as absent as it can be, but it doesn't actually bother me. What bothers me is that I have creative energy inside that can never come out in its truest form, so it ends up exploding like a bomb with agression. Yes, all my creative energy literally gets released with agression and pessimism. Do you have any tips on what the hell I should do?

[@CSJoseph]

develop the other four archetypes first.

[@CSJoseph]

other three*

[@D3tyHuff]

@@CSJoseph Magician is maxed out, king is nowhere to be seen, and wouldn't it be impossible for the hero archetype to be developed before the lover one is? If so, I guess It'd be time to start developing the king.

[@CSJoseph]

@@D3tyHuff people often do it backwards

[@Corey-yg9ch]

Hey Chase, I think that by watching a lot of videos this channel, I have gotten to opportunity to hear you, Learn to trust You And give you the benefit of the doubt and understand you better. It’s inspirational to me to be a follower of this channel and also have the many of the same realizations as an intuitive.🤜🏽🤛👍🏽 What is he vs what if he??

[@bohdanpohorilets]

The 7 habits of highly effective peoples by Stephen Covey - despite shitty (in my opinion) title, exceptionally good book very much in spirit of Carnegie and aligned with what you teach.

[@helenzheng9557]

Season 13 is one of my favorite seasons. Chase doesn't have many videos talking about human nurture, but those videos are so insightful. If human nature is technic, then human nurture is more like art. They have to be balance. They have to develop at the same time. You will still suffer in a golden pair relationship, if you don't develop your human nurture. I hope more people, both man and woman, can watch this season, especially this video. And maybe spend some time really think. Love is a choice.

[@saeedradmehr1976]

I love you too, you warm my heart. EDIT: I understand you! DISCLAIMER FOR AUDIENCE: It does not mean that I agree with every suggestion Mr.Joseph gives.

[@waicheungli1151]

may be helpful if we bring together an essential reading list.

[@CSJoseph]

which is already available on my website at csjoseph.life and then just click on books.

[@marcanton9083]

17 "He will also go before Him in the spirit and power of Elijah, 'to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children,' and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready a people prepared for the Lord."

[@DanLagos28]

Tell you the truth I almost cried hearing all of this

[@samg2784]

Love the effort and message here. Not trying to criticize, but why preach an hour long video on it if you said you're only at level 1/4? I mean this in a constructive way but I think there are some ideologies here about the mature lover that could be fine tuned. Thanks for the video though.

[@CSJoseph]

Not everyone is as smart as yoy

[@samg2784]

@@CSJoseph Kind of an immature response. No part of my comment was intended to say how smart I was, or offend you at all.. Just saying, think of the amount of people you could influence. You said yourself 1/4... I'm not perfect brother, maybe you missed the point.

[@melissamimi9464]

I love you man

[@CSJoseph]

[@abrahamrlopez]

Almost want to say that I see some symbolism in this video...

[@gillianyue4160]

I can't believe someone else also thinks of love the same way I do, how it's very, very deeply tied to pain. We're not talking about masochism here, by the way. There's a reason Christian mythology was the way it was. Without contrast, without the other side of the coin, there's no love to begin with.

[@factuallyveryrandom6849]

Shiv cut off his son's head and thn his head was replaced with an elephant's head and that was how ganesh was born...are u talking about that story?

[@CSJoseph]

No

[@phillyjam2018]

Would you say your lover archetype is low because of Se demon? Not all about the physical environment right?

[@CSJoseph]

I am a workaholic and my ISFJ size is underdeveloped, thats why.

[@bjsirilan7534]

Hi Chase, which type goes with what Archetype?

[@tania7149]

CS Joseph I think LOA will greatly benefit you. I believe in different dimensions and you my dear would enjoy being in the 5th dimension. You deserve it. You are a good person and have already taken many vacations and already are exactly where you say you “ wish you were” it’s all a matter of perspective.

[@casshernlancer8917]

Thank you for reminding me of the Maturing of Masculinity. I need to evolve and the artofmanliness.com introduce me to the concept a while back. ENTP is my type as well but failing isn’t something I’m afraid of though. Thank you for your selfless efforts to attack fatherlessness me and generations of black men need this knowledge.

[@CSJoseph]

very well said sir, It is sad that black men have less fathers per capita compared to other races.

[@MrZitrex]

Great content. More of that and less of typing random people

[@choco1199]

Hans I enjoy the typing!

[@EndlessKurtis]

Yo what happened to the “how to type: x” series this week?

[@CSJoseph]

work trip to Vegas

[@stepjuan5515]

Thank you

[@i.magination6814]

So dealing with shadow in the shadows. How fitting. You want the lover, but that comes with self love as well, foolish kinda mad crazy insane just weird quirky loooove. Must say you are very hard on yourself but you already exude what you seek.

[@alexsantana3588]

You're a good guy ... I've prayed for you ... you are not quite there with the Divinely Revealed Religion of Jesus Christ (Catholicism) but if you are open to grace you can make the discovery. I invite you into the Supernatural Life of participation in the divine life of the Trinity. Material and Ego achievements are all well and good but it is all for nothing if you are not a branch united to the True Vine, Jesus Christ. You want your efforts and good works to follow you into eternal life, brother. This will be the case if you believe and act IN Christ. May God the Father bless you through Jesus our Lord in the unity of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

[@valentynabelofsky9374]

I'm an ENFP and it's honestly been freaking me out how much I actually sound like Alex Jones when I'm mad. :(

[@zeroangelmk1]

They're putting chemicals in the water that are turning the fricken frogs gay!

[@valentynabelofsky9374]

The "he knows" one is something I'm always saying

[@D3tyHuff]

Joseph is not sitting in the driver's seat in this video because he was driven to make this video by his less developed side, that is why he's in the dark too...

[@szpoganicz]

try to use yourself less of an example man, sure you have lots of them. Open yourself only to criticism to people that wants your best

[@CSJoseph]

I am an Si user, I can do no other. I must practice and live what I preach.