What is the real cost of UK's EU membership? BBC News

One thing the campaigns disagree on is the real cost of our membership. So how much money do we put in and how much of it do we get back? I've been taking a closer look at some of the latest figures from the Treasury to try to get to the bottom of it.
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[@w-james9277]

How dare you present us with facts! You should be ashamed of yourselves BBC!!!

[@phildobson8705]

What BBC left out of the total sum is the Massive trade deficit UK has with EU. Putting right the balance of payments could save UK over £1 Billion per week

[@w-james9277]

Phil Dobson We're still going to be paying money towards the EU for the next five years buddy. And if we get an agreement like Canada and Norway then we'll still pay lots of money but this time we will have no influence.

[@phildobson8705]

We don't have to pay EU anything mate. USA pays $0.00. EU is running a massive trade surplus with UK so if they want to continue selling their stuff to us they can do business or - IF they tax our products, we tax their products providing Revenue for UK Treasury & making it profitable for companies such as USA Ford, USA Tesla etc. to invest & sell in UK

[@w-james9277]

Phil Dobson Yes we do. If the referendum goes in favour of a yes vote, we don't suddenly be out. Negotiations will start and will continue on for years. In that time we will still pay as much money to them and have less and less of a say. Companies such as BMW as written letters to all their UK employees saying they could lose their jobs if we vote leave. They will move production of the Mini to an EU state as they won't have to pay import/custom fees. Nearly every corporation has done that as well. My dad spoke to the CEO of a large company based in London and told him that if we vote to leave then he will have to make 1/3 of his employees redundant. So along with paying the EU until we leave and then paying more in order to get a Norway deal plus the £ going down in value, leaving now is a bad idea.

[@gladifly]

Vote leave.

[@666mrdoctor]

The BBC forgot to mention the other part of the money going back to the EU: all the social and economical benefits of staying tariffs-free inside one of the biggest market of the world.

[@somyod2u]

You might have mentioned that, of the tariffs which the UK imposes on imported goods from non-EU countries, 80%,had to be handed to the brigands over in the Berlaymont Building.

[@davidbrown9093]

As I'm aware, the rebate Margaret Thatcher got us was given back by Tony Blair,

[@evelynfullerton9136]

That is what they told us but was it ?

[@themekon]

David Brown was it?

[@rosewhite---]

I remember Blair saying he was going to Brussle to get a reduction of £1billion only to come slinking back having agreed to pay £1billion extra! That is typical Socialist thinking. An dof course just how much money does it take to keep all those bueraucrats in Brussles compared to employing them directly in uK?

[@Blacknight1812]

exactly, more BBC spin, what he didn't say was the power exercised by Brussels on "our" behalf.

[@ComradeHellas]

@@rosewhite--- Blair a Socialist, lol.

[@jingo1963]

Oh and the BBC forgot to mention that they also receive funding from the EU

[@dylanharding5720]

1:00

[@jingo1963]

UselessDood what I meant was that the BBC receives money from the EU

[@ersklordy]

Why is the taxpayer funding the private sector where is that money going

[@barnsej98]

Which of course is our money used by the EU to bribe idiots like the BBC

[@MrArthurGiles]

jingo1963 I think it´s more accurate to call the "funding" a BRIBE.

[@gerrykingstone984]

This broadcaster alone is being payed £8000 A WEEK, provided by EU and licence protection monies, who is he kidding.

[@nigelmitchell351]

BBC, RT, it’s all state propaganda so what’s the difference?

[@ianbennett2212]

He's paid to give the EU good press as is all left wing media outlets shameful the lot of them . Money grabbing parasites they are

[@ianbennett2212]

@@nigelmitchell351 none Nigel oh sorry are RT are the spokesman for spectre oops Russia there all masters of spin ;-)

[@666mrdoctor]

Better than RT.

[@chrisnicholls1112]

The fish belong to UK - WHEN we leave!

[@callumhardy5098]

chris nicholls What if they swim over the border?

[@florianpollard3460]

I think your sense of entitlement is misplaced. Every EU country across the channel could make that claim. They paid for those fishing rights and they never agreed to what you call "British fishing waters". As long as your MPs don't realize that there can be no deal. No deal = not your fish.

[@peter-xw1mu]

Well that aged well.

[@RatFacedJasper]

I love the subtlety of the finale image, with 'remain' is taking up a slightly larger portion of the screen while being the hopefully white and 'leave' being the dangerous red.

[@Francoberry]

Not everything is a conspiracy theory you know.. They also show 'EU' with the 'DANGEROUS RED' background.

[@RatFacedJasper]

I was mostly joking. It just bugged me at the end that the graphic wasn't centered. I like symmetry.

[@blazednlovinit]

On the flip side it puts "EU" in danger red and "decide" in hopeful white, so that kinda pisses on that theory. *Proud to be voting out* :)

[@timrthoward7007]

remind me of English literature, reading too far into shit

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

The white side was larger, they could have made the sides equal by simply adjusting the angle of the line in the middle, no matter the length of the words. +Ralph Zimmermann did you not studly subtle persuasion in media? We covered it in film too, like Hitchock.

[@juice6521]

I'm pro EU, but this shit is just sad. Just stay out of this, you're suppose to be bipartisan.

[@TimRosenburg]

they're not taking a side with this they're just stating how much we spend and get in return on the EU

[@AogNubJoshh]

How is it biased? They're literally stating the facts.

[@unearnedreservations]

To 'inform' is part of the founding mission status of the BBC...to 'stay out of this' would be an insult to taxpayers.

[@TimRosenburg]

***** exactamundo. what you get a lot, which i find hilarious, is where people from opposing sides both complain about the BBC being biased towards them. It happened in the Scottish referendum, it happens with British Muslims and it's happening with the EU referendum now

[@jacobbentley9318]

Since when did literally stating the facts, giving context, then saying you decide count as bias?

[@magnuswalker7957]

You forgot to say that Tony Blair surrendered a portion of Thatchers hard fought for reduction back to The EU

[@barnsej98]

Plus the EU tell us were we can spend our money??? Like pocket money for school kid ?Is that how you treat the fifth biggest economy !! WTO now

[@magnuswalker7957]

@@barnsej98 I hope I am still alive when the EU disintrigate just like the USSR and the Berlin Wall. Seeing these Barstewards crumble into the dust would make my day.

[@Isochest]

I wonder how much his kickback was?

[@neinno8172]

the UK Treasury estimated the 2017 rebate amounted to €6.6 (£5.6) billion reducing the ultimate UK contribution for the 2017 budget to €10.4 (£8.9) billion. Although the rebate is not set in the EU treaties, it is negotiated as part of the Multiannual Financial Framework (MFF) every seven years and must be unanimously agreed. divided by 52, that's about 110 mil a week.

[@ComradeHellas]

@@magnuswalker7957 It will never happen my dear. If I had my way, I would see a hard border over the UK and a total ebargo of their products within the European Single Market, I would kneel pesky Anglos and destroy the perfidious albion once and for all. For now I am looking forward for an SNP clean sweep on 6th May and a second Scottish Independence referendum, they will be welcomed back in the EU overnight. North Ireland should do the same, 26+6=1, 100 years were too much.

[@petroskolitas8408]

Leave the patronising tone out of it why not just use the 271 million a week to fund those things without having it pass through Brussels. Cut out the middle man.

[@adamkosta3241]

You Obviously didn`t watch the whole Video, WE DO NOT SEND EVEN £271 MILLION

[@florianpollard3460]

It's because the EU has a responsibility to ensure that the financial interests of the European communities are being protected instead of falling in the hands of corrupt individuals like your Brexit pushers.

[@blindbrad4719]

How does your act of self sabotage taste now? 😂

[@jlpspartan]

I love that 161mill is a small amount. well done BBC on changing my mind on how much 161mill is in 'retrospect'

[@raymondroy6382]

it's only the average wage for 270,000 people......

[@AogNubJoshh]

They literally said "You decide" how significant that sum is for EU memership. The commenters here are such idiots.

[@raymondroy6382]

by "here" do you mean you work at the BBC. ?.......

[@AogNubJoshh]

Raymond Roy "Here" meaning this comments section. No I do not work for them.

[@blazednlovinit]

What point are you trying to make with them saying that? We all know we are deciding... it's a referendum, do you think some people out there didn't know they could decide for themselves?

[@trevortaylor3774]

If we're not in the EU we wouldn't need a rebate so we wouldn't be parting with 361million pounds in the first place

[@usernamespyre]

Technically correct, but then we would not have access to the free market which has massive benefits (lower import prices, higher export volumes). You're basically saying "If I didn't buy food I would save so much money" Technically correct, but you would also starve and die. The EU contribution is the subscription fee we pay for the other benefits, it's not about the direct payment.

[@lukejones4040]

usernamespyre it's not a free market though...

[@usernamespyre]

@@lukejones4040 Sorry, I misspoke (misstyped?) I should have said "Single Market" i.e. there is free trade in that market between EU countries.

[@lukejones4040]

@@usernamespyrecorrect me if I'm wrong here but we pay into a a single market where there is some free trade with in that single market???

[@usernamespyre]

@@lukejones4040 I think you're confusing the membership fee for ALL benefits vs. Tariffs. For arguments' sake let's assume the UK get's no other EU benefits (investments, subsidies etc) and we focus purely on access to the single market. This membership fee is GBP 361 million per week? Because there are no trade barriers making it harder for the UK to export to the EU, the UK in fact exports over GBP 4 Billion to the EU each week. This is around 45% of our total exports. Equally, we get to import around 50-53% of our total imports from the EU as it is far cheaper than importing form elsewhere. This saves UK consumers money (as they are not paying the cost of any incoming tariffs)

[@pp1985ish]

Oh so it's just 161 million. I feel much better now

[@pp1985ish]

@Dr Professor agreed. I am a labour supporter well was until Corbyn. I didnt base my Brexit vote on what politicians said I based it on what I felt was best option

[@LiquifiedSoul]

You guys could argue that we could have possibly forged better deals and done better outside of the EU and whether the benefits have been passed down unilaterally to citizens But you understand that it's undeniable that joining the EU, undoubtedly has been good for our economy right? 161m a week may be a big number for you guys to have to think about but in an economy of ~2trillion its not as outlandish as you think

[@GUNNERSIGHTZEROED]

You're right it should make everyone feel better now 😂😂😂😂. £361 mil still has to be paid in though 🤔🤔Strange old system.

[@LiquifiedSoul]

@@GUNNERSIGHTZEROED You act as if we get nothing in return?

[@GUNNERSIGHTZEROED]

@@LiquifiedSoul Fecal Matter, shill for Europe, troll somewhere else. Go and be contemptibly stupid elsewhere!

[@ogreavesx]

I honestly cannot see where this money is being spent.

[@GoldieDawn]

Farmers, fishermen, local communities & services, town regeneration ( like in Cornwall and Wales ) research, deprived areas ect, ect, why don't you research your own area toots? x :)

[@raymondroy6382]

i did some research......an additional 161 mill left here would help MORE..........and by the way UK fishermen don't need any help......the EU got rid of them......

[@raymondroy6382]

PS........................toots.........

[@GoldieDawn]

Raymond Roy Over fishing got rid of a few as well Roy and there's still fishermen here in Scotland. x :)

[@raymondroy6382]

talk to them.......come back and tell me they are all as happy as pigs in shit........the fact is that the fishing quotas remain the same....the difference is that the quotas have been denied to the Scots and east coasters..and distributed among other EU members, who are so inefficient as to make the cost of importing fish from them prohibitive, hence most of our fish is imported from Norway, a non EU member who retains their 200 mile limit......

[@jameskirk4106]

Thanks to Bliar the rebate is nowhere near that now.

[@robhingston]

But they never take into account the tariff fees we pay on everything outside the EU

[@pierrepy2931]

The same for any other member of the EU, you're not special !

[@juliegwilliam8503]

oh, and I forgot to mention Tony Bliar gave back to the EU half of what Thatcher negotiated.

[@g8ymw]

Don't forget the other little things like 25% of VAT receipts go straight to Brussels. That is why we cannot zero rate female hygiene products. Well we have but Brussels won't, hence VAT at 5% ((25% of 20% = 5%)

[@daimsaeed]

@@g8ymw whats 25% of 0%?

[@g8ymw]

@@daimsaeed Stupid question

[@daimsaeed]

@@g8ymw exactly

[@pierrepy2931]

Wrong ! £1bn over £19bn

[@Jfieldsend94]

So basically, we do send that much, but the EU generously gives us a fraction of our own money back. Thanks for disproving that claim.

[@nairdamorton5148]

Jfieldsend94 , and the bit that comes back has to be spent on what the EU says. So we have no control of ANY of the £361 million. Which is exactly what Johnson said.

[@ernestrogen4639]

Yes the EU is like a friend in a pub give him £100 pound and he gives you £60 back and asks for more the next week and tells you how good he was giving you that £60. But Mays list of EU demands were even worse as they would not only pay the £39 billion but also pay the EU on demand for items not included on that list. Those are the EUs own words on their web page. That means the only fare way to leave is on WTO terms which are fare and even to both sides, After all we have always paid more into the EU each year than we ever got out. Why have the BBC not made a vid of how mush we have paid the EU since we joined and how much we of our money we got back. Give us the total the EU has cost the UK tax payer since we joined. The BBC prob cant count that high. Unless its their wages.

[@billoliver5222]

@@nairdamorton5148 Please watch the video again

[@aroundtheworld2316]

All our money goes to the so called net receivers in Eastern Europe

[@MrCrish81]

@@aroundtheworld2316 UK make 225 Bilion a year on EU market...you just close the door and say fck you all i need my fish

[@samgiton]

Why are we paying the EU in the first place, we have been footing the repair bill for Europe since WW2.

[@mandmharris7024]

And how much of that EU spending is wasted and has absolutely no impact - what a sham.

[@markthompson6540]

My friend imports tiles from China and pays 70%/import tax directly to EU is this included?

[@ianship5058]

How much does the BIASED Broadcasting Corporation get from the EU

[@bmarkyt132]

And when we’ve left and stopped sending all that, we should look at the foreign aid budget.

[@raymondroy6382]

it would be a whole lot easier for the BBC, if they just get their presenters to kneel in front of the camera with their hands together, and BEG the viewers to remain......a whole lot more honest too......

[@AogNubJoshh]

Or they could remain impartial as they did in this video, but explaining no more than accurate facts and figures.

[@raymondroy6382]

amazed you can access the internet from your planet......

[@AogNubJoshh]

Raymond Roy Explain to me which part of this video was misleading, inaccurate or biased?

[@raymondroy6382]

only the part up to the 3 minute 18 mark................

[@AogNubJoshh]

Raymond Roy The bit where they explain exactly how much contribution we *actually* pay for EU membership?

[@husseintoney]

The rebate is spent according to EU's discretion. We have no control in it. *VOTE LEAVE!*

[@evelynfullerton9136]

No you don't it helps pay for the NHS and pensions and farming eqitment and social enterprises who will pay all that if we come out the government wont

[@molagbal7961]

or we could just not give it to them and put it where we like?/

[@nthenry]

I doubt Westminster would be spending any of it in Wales or Cornwall.

[@ciarankelly5346]

And have no-one to trade with, good luck.

[@NIXRevolution]

very true, its not like america will have much interest in us when Trump is in

[@trevorphillips8003]

Ciaran Kelly I didn't realise there weren't other countries outside of the EU....

[@ciarankelly5346]

Trevor Phillips Not enough to fully support us you idiots. The EU are vital to our economy.

[@BigAlCapwn]

What Mr Stayt didn't say.... The rebate is not guaranteed and can be taken away every 7 years. The treasury and private sector money is mandated by the EU in terms of where it must be spent. So whilst it technically goes to the treasury, they only act a distribution centre and have no control over it.

[@bmarkyt132]

The ‘EU money’ sent to the treasury!? You mean OUR money we get back from them so they can take the credit and told where to spend it.

[@Anderson21G]

So what is actually being said here is the money we give half is essentially given back... What about the other half ? It's like giving a 20 and getting a 10 back when in fact we could allocate that money ourselves anyway so how is this actually relevant in remaining in the EU ?

[@leonardbexter6372]

You have now found out the value of the other half, genius.

[@blindbrad4719]

LOL remember when farmers thought the same 😂

[@SuperBumps]

It would be useful to know how the money was used by the EU. And saying 161m a week may seem reasonable, but if you say over 8 billion a year, it sounds a little different.

[@SteveFusionX]

the EU uses our money to promote social justice courses in universities, for bullfighting in spain and to build roads and bridges in Greece... (no, I'm not making that up!)

[@chatteyj]

Yes it also uses that moment to indoctrinate young people into believing the EU is wonderful.

[@piphall4702]

I love the way it sounds like it's a good thing but there is still a deficit of £161 million a week from the uk to the eu

[@nickbreen287]

So we are getting more back? I think not.

[@knucklesamidge]

This doesn't take into account any money we make from trade.

[@bonobo2181]

Because we all know if leave, all trading with the EU will immediately cease.

[@jaredkidd1]

It wouldn't cease but it would create difficulties.

[@blindbrad4719]

How are you liking Brexit red tape now 😂

[@kbg12ila]

Wait but we still lose money....

[@kbg12ila]

This video showed me I should vote leave

[@BeepDerpify]

+kbg12ila the same way you lose money on your salary

[@hm-oq4kr]

we benefit so much more from staying in the EU compared to leaving. if we leave the EU, we will lose exclusive trading (selling and buying rights), the NHS would be affected and we'd fall into a deeper recession most likely. It's also going to weaken our relationship with other European countries which means we will lose a LARGE amount of money that we get as a country through trade, business, negotiations etc. it'll also affect earnings in the UK with an average loss of about £2,000 per person.

[@killerkhan]

ITS REALLY £161MILLION POUND A WEEK TO BE IN IN THE UNION; WHICH OFFERS FREE TRADE, PROTECTION etc,.

[@kbg12ila]

I actually have no idea which to vote for and neither does anyone I know... We've been told two completely different stories and don't know what to believe. Might as well not vote.

[@frtuihjg]

Paying the EU 1 pound a week is too friggin much

[@jeanjean59ful]

It will cost you more in two months.

[@ilabell5793]

The farming subsidies mostly go to the richest in UK that means lords, queen and her family, rich business people who hold vast amounts of land. The students do not see the university funding and still end up having to get in debt. Why do we just not keep the money and we decide where the money has to be spent.

[@MohammedYASSINE]

Any market needs producers, consumers, raw materials and trained workers. The Eu tries to creates this ecosystem, by supporting low income countries and thus creating a good consumer base where the economy can grow, and at the same time use their natural and human ressources. The UK is not used to this kind of fair economy, they are used to showing on the the shore of some other country with their army and claiming everything on it to the crown.

[@FreeThinkingRealist]

Let me take your wages (minus 20%) and I'll give you back some of it to spend on what I want, deal?

[@ianbennett2212]

We should have it itemised how much we pay them in are wage slips then we would see the true cost

[@anthonybardsley4985]

It's costing us free trade deals..with other countries.

[@GSpamhunter]

Nope. Who told you that? The opposite is the case. Also, post-Brexit we will NO LONGER be part of all the EU's FTAs & EPAs signed and/or under negotiation with over 80 countries, in some cases after 20+ years of negotiation. I've also got bad news for you about the Tooth Fairy...

[@tadasblindavicius8889]

Under EU rules the UK banned smoking in pubs and other public places. There is no way such "country of smoker's" as the UK is could do such thing as not part of EU. Another huge EU benefit to the UK is agriculture benefit. Every UK's farmer will tell you that the EU has done for the UK's agriculture enormous benefit. All these debates, talkings and arguments about Brexit what is going on today, should have been happening long before Brexit. Now obviously British people know much much more about Brexit risks and the consequences of it. Back ten they weren't. The second referendum would be a fair solution for Britain.

[@khurmiful]

It's not the money, it's the open door policy that bugs me.

[@blindbrad4719]

How's that working out for you now?

[@maxbacon4828]

Take away John Sweeney,s bar bill, hic!.

[@ianbennett2212]

Lol

[@AppanParsu]

Seriously even if this is true, £161m a week still can go to things within our country that will help our people. That is what the government is for to help the people and businesses within our country. They need us more than we need them!

[@pierrepy2931]

"They need us more than we need them" this remains to be proven by facts !

[@pierrepy2931]

"They need us more than we need them" this remains to be proven by facts !

[@leonardbexter6372]

So, where did the 161 a week go to now?

[@AC-tn9hg]

​@@pierrepy2931It's true. UK one of the most powerful countries in the world. We don't need the EU to do things, and have found other markets and changed the structure of our economy. In the long term, rather than putting all that money (161 million a week according to BBC) into the coffers of Brussels, we can invest it instead to better meet needs and interests of the UK.

[@blindbrad4719]

@@AC-tn9hg you got an examples of what you're claiming? we've lost out on so much tax since leaving 😂

[@robhingston]

Lol like someone giving me £10 and I give them £2 back ....

[@Bullfrog377]

And Charlie forgot to mention that we have to send to the EU 80% of the Common External Tariff which we collect on imports from outside the EU, eg. 16% on oranges (mostly from South Africa). I think this comes to about £3bn a year

[@TheKruxed]

so we pay essentially 160 million a week to be in the EU. This gives us the great advantages of no control over our borders, worse trade deals and more importantly limited to EU deals as we don't trade with 2 of the biggest in the world in India and China. We pay you license fees to be impartial yet you make no mention of any of the benefits of leaving the EU and try and twist losing 160 million a week as a good thing?? I don't normally vote, but crap like this is why I will vote to leave.

[@blindbrad4719]

Still waiting for a single Brexit benefit from any of you lot

[@TheKruxed]

@@blindbrad4719 Still waiting for the BBC to be impartial and it'll likely be 7 years until you've learnt to read.

[@blindbrad4719]

@@TheKruxed the BBC has Tori's on it's board of directors. I don't watch TV anyway 🤷🏻

[@blindbrad4719]

@@TheKruxed and I'm still waiting for you to tell me a Brexit benefit.

[@michaelhunt8419]

£350 million before the rebate we pay in £280 million a week in and the campaign was saying we could cut out the EU and spend it on better things like the NHS so the point they made was 100% valid. The £88 million we get back is small change and the EU is just acting as the middle man taking £280 million a week of your money.

[@martinmcdonald4207]

And here we are in Jan 2023 and the NHS is broken and looking very vunrable as the Tory thiefs and their private sector pals drool and rub their hands as they tear down the sacred cow, the pride of the `UK`. Twelve toxic Tory years with a little Brexit in the middle. God Bless Ol` Blighty.

[@Silly.Old.Sisyphus]

GBP5m to tackle poverty?! 1/10 of the amount given to farmers to drive their Landrovers?!! The price of one house in Mayfair?!!! The population of the UK is about 90m; according to Social Metrics Commission, 14.2m of them are living in poverty, so that makes the support for them = GBP 5/14.2= about 30p each. Yeah, thanks a lot.

[@Appilesh]

That isn't how it works, at all. Stop with your pseudo-economics.

[@insaiyandbz466]

When everyone realises we the people have more power in parliament is when we can truly become free.

[@florianpollard3460]

That's only true if you are English. Cus you have the power to overrule everybody else in the UK. Your representation is very disproportionate. You only have power if you vote Tory or labour. Others have no chance of strong representation, even when they get a lot of votes. Their parties can't grow so they basically have no power in Westminster .

[@paulwilliams8536]

How much does the bbc get

[@Carl-im9gh]

? Exactly!

[@mrdemocracy7106]

Ask the BBC's remainer bosses

[@TheJoshmcdermott]

The bias in this video, oh lord.

[@TheJoshmcdermott]

+SxKushxS LOL

[@thomashaines3182]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but where's the bias? Genuinely want to know, I'm pretty ignorant towards this stuff

[@Davilcancry]

Most of our exports come from the EU and the trade agreement lowers the cost of imports. Without the EU our balance of payments will get worse. Balance of payments is just one component what about foreign investment, what about increasing the workforce what about the several beneficial laws that help us such as minimum wages and health and safety requirements?

[@TheJoshmcdermott]

+Davilcancry Vergil is the best

[@SteveFusionX]

lying traitor. Are you saying our country is not GOOD enough to write it's own health and safety laws!? We make a NET loss to the EU and we buy more off them than they sell to us, so it's absurd to say we cant have a beneficial trade-agreement with the EU after brexit..

[@jellyboy123]

161 million a week. let me get my calculator..... 8.372 billion a year. :-O in 10 years thats like 83. 720 billion if we threw that money in a high interest account we could pay back the British debt in about 20 years.

[@ainsleytidd3625]

never clamed to be the best at maths but when he breaks down the 85 ml per week, add what he says together and I make it 93 ml

[@jonathanmacdermid5310]

I was looking for these figures myself as I was interested in the net figure that Europe costs us while pondering my decision. Now with the BBC figures and the fact that removal of European red tape has a good chance of counteracting the loss of being in the EU zone, it seems like leaving is looking good.

[@pierrepy2931]

The same way than deciding to stop paying your taxes. Sure it'll give you more money at the end of the year but you will be depraved of any social security, police, pensions, aids for kids, work of any sort...etc .Is it such a good deal ?

[@DiversionG]

Oh boy this didn't age well

[@cazman182]

I hope that now you see, all along - it was the EU keeping trade related red-tape away and not creating it.

[@martinmcdonald4207]

It never did and 6 years later it still doesn`t. Unicorns and that genious stuff!

[@vincentrochow6979]

How is it going for you bru

[@sheelotastic]

ageing population is really becoming a problem

[@jastat]

The baby boomers were a problem when they were young too, why do you think house prices are so high?

[@rugbyliam89]

161 million that can be used in the UK just because its weekly it all adds up to a larger sum at the end of the month and year.

[@cucu_cucumber]

So, we could just not pay them the money and spend it ourselves. Simple, whats the argument here?

[@helpmeImbeing]

So 161 million more we could be spending on ourselves? Let leave asap.

[@crazydinosaur8945]

the UK budget is £1,200 billion 151 million is notning! notning!

[@gregoryseager9191]

God forbid we cant manage to spend out own tax payers money

[@tn7mu336]

The key point to this is that we put in more money than we get back. So the 'EU funded' projects are actually funded by our own taxes.

[@martinmcdonald4207]

What a complete load of nonsense. Even now 6 years later your comment has been completely turned on it`s thick head.

[@freee63]

So how much money was spent on the CGI in this video and where did that money come from lol

[@Gambit771]

Getting money back is different to having full control of what to do with that money.

[@alexhayden2303]

It always amuses me when I see a Big Blue, that says, 'The Project is being Assisted by a Grant from the EU'. Our Money less a handsome Handling Charge!

[@dennisrandall4356]

Old news but he forgot to mention the deficit in trade in billions pa 16% of buildings £35 billion, further £35 billion into ECB to prop up Euro crises in 2008, £1.2 billion for Galileo from crashing and losing its credit rating, plus now £39 billion to leave makes approx £66 billion, that's on your net calculations not including over the past years annual payments and deficit in trade.

[@pennyhobbs7267]

I think the point is they tell us were we put our money, safeguarding certain businesses in the EU, when we should be supporting our own, we are also also paying the EU president unelected and unwanted.

[@pooplop8458]

Stay in the EU continue to support failing businesses. leave the EU let the weak die and create stronger businesses.

[@born2burn1]

Not going into the UE vs UK business. Just challenging your statement of strong surviving and weak dying. Strong are asda, tesco, sainsbury, M&S. Weak is your local greengrocer and shop. Strong is screwfix, B&Q and halfords. Weak is your friendly neighbourhood hardware shop. Strong is kwikfik, weak is the local mechanic. Strong are corporations, weak are individuals. Thank you for promoting capitalism. Do you want to privatise healthcare and make guns legal too? Or, better yet, move to the USA. I'm sure you would like it much more there.

[@quicko2112]

Pratt

[@ComradeHellas]

Oh yeah shut down the local deli so the big supermarket can have larger profits. Exemplary British thought.

[@FatChineseGaming]

I am going to vote leave, thank you

[@blazednlovinit]

Likewise, paying money to be controlled by foreigners has never been my cup of tea.

[@mastrolegend9277]

Well I guess you should stop drinking tea then because that industry is mainly controlled by foreigners and most other industries, but who am I to judge you're decision, oops I just did.

[@blazednlovinit]

Mastro Legend I don't like tea. I guess taking a figurative phrase as a literal statement can backfire on you, oh well, you live you learn, or you never learn and remain an idiot forever, choose your poison :)

[@mastrolegend9277]

Yeah, my bad, I'm just stating the flaws in your views, personally I would opt in so this topic is very opinionated, I just don't understand why giving money to a "foreigner" is worse than giving money to a British person, they both take your money. Britain is one of the most diversified places in the world, it's not like that's a bad thing. Anyways even is you manage to opt out there are many repercussions to your decision and many advantages, well mostly just more money, and if you stay in there are no repercussions, but you don't get any extra money and are "controlled by foreigners". Both of which offer there "good" side and there "bad" sides, personally i just don't want a visa to go on a holiday because I know that it is going to be expensive.

[@blazednlovinit]

Mastro Legend You're stating what you think the flaws in my views are, lets get it right :) When I give money to a more local economy I am much more likely to see the benefits of that money come back around to me, that logic works on the county level, the national level and the international level. Why is diversity a good thing exactly? You say that like it is part of the definition of the concept and that one must take that as the gospel. I don't care about repercussions because I have faith in Britain, we're one of the worlds richest and most powerful nations (especially for our small size), and in any case I'd rather live in a poor democracy than a wealthy dictatorship. The death of the rule of the people can never be a good thing in my eyes, sorry.

[@nlomas]

Interesting. In regards to the rebate is this paid back weekly or is it annually?

[@cazman182]

It was calculated yearly, and the way it worked was to reduce the UK's weekly contribution, no money went to and back from the EU.

[@ivan-Croatian]

Well this aged real good 😁

[@rosshilton]

But the UK has no control over the money the EU hands back. They decide what it will be spent upon, not the democratically elected government of the UK.

[@glenquinn6853]

He has to say the eu is good becouse bbc gets backing from the eu BRITISH BIAS CUMPANY JUST LOVES ALL THE BACK HANDERS THEY GET

[@neinno8172]

How does that make the point invalid?

[@warren6090]

So funny how people say this is fake but can't counter as to why it is fake. It is like they are saying no thanks I don't want to be informed. They rather be ignorant.

[@mickcooper8605]

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the rebate end soon under the Lisbon Treaty along with compulsory adoption of the €

[@pierrepy2931]

Nope for Gods sake, DO your research before writing nonsense

[@blindbrad4719]

No, no it does not. 🤦 you truly got fed some shit fois gras style 😂

[@ivanhrusovsky5530]

How come the EU parliament has got two HQs - Brussels and Strasbourg? And all the staff and politicians keeps traveling between these far HQs.. Insane how the burrocrats keeps spending taxpayers money...

[@magnuswalker7957]

It was a move to appease the Frogs, they had a paddy when they realised the EU HQ was not to be in France, Stragsburg is a massive white Elephant of a building

[@Firespectrum122]

They're getting desperate now. They should have just said that all the money goes to the "prevent ww3" fund.

[@cucu_cucumber]

Well how else are they going to afford the huge stick needed to poke Russia with?

[@tipex1290]

161 mil a week is over 8.3 billion a year we are paying for basically nothing

[@karstenschuhmann8334]

You are funny!

[@crazydinosaur8945]

just like taxes. nothing at all for it. not roads, drinking water, education etc nothing at all. why not just stop paying for roads, couse they cost money, and as you said if its cost money theres no why it can still contribute positively to an economy or maybe just maybe things like roads facilitate travel and trade. that generate more than it cost to maintain. naa sounds dum

[@blindbrad4719]

Did you even know what basically meant seven years ago?

[@kameronmfk6856]

the simple question is why dont we spend all the money as we wish rather than it comes back to us? assuming it does come back.

[@LCDqBqA]

This is a non-argument. We elect a government because we want them to spend our tax a certain way. The money the EU "gives us" we have no choice in where it's spent i.e. it is money wasted.

[@JohnSmith-hj8kv]

Its still being used.. not wasted. They are things we would use money on anyway - the government spends extra on these as well.

[@husseintoney]

Bullshit. People who are unaccountable to tax payers should not be in charge of how we spend the money. The rebate is spent according to EU's discretion. We have no control in it. VOTE LEAVE!

[@jastat]

@@husseintoney That was not true. You elect an MEP, who makes that decision for you

[@jastat]

@Smokeango literally every single democracy in the planet has "unelected officials". We have them in British too they are called civil servants, who checks your passport at border control? Civil servants. who checks your taxes at hmrc? Civil servants. The list goes on. The MEPs job is to keep them in check. They are accountable to MEPs. It's the only practical way a democracy can operate. Don't believe all the things nigel and his buddies tell you - they are politicians, you know the truth is something their kind has trouble with

[@matbroomfield]

The attempt at minimisation is a tactic we've all seen. "Just the price of a cup of coffee a day will buy you a Mac, or life insurance". Nobody is fooled. 8.3 billion is still enough to transform a lot of industries. in the UK. And frankly if our EU representatives were democratically elected I wouldn't resent them so much.

[@chigwife862]

"if our EU representatives were democratically elected" Maybe you should vote in European elections then? You're given the choice to, but very few people in this country take up that offer.

[@matbroomfield]

I didn't even know there WERE EU elections, but even if I did, it's hard enough comparing the effectiveness of councillors who have lived in my town for decades, let alone people whose work, much less whose record is a complete blank slate to me.

[@cucu_cucumber]

Maybe you should learn how the EU actually works before calling people out, the MEPs have no say in making European laws, the European Parliament is pretty fucking useless, a sort of puppet show for the public. Law making is actually handled by European commissioners whom are unelected, un advised and part of different branches.

[@cucu_cucumber]

You were not completely wrong Mat, sure the MEPs are elected but they don't do anything.

[@douglasmenzies9313]

Note, that Tony Bliar signed back half of Mrs Thatcher's hard fought for rebate before leaving PM's office and securing a cushy position working for the EU.People have short memories,and the BBC and Politicians are aware of this.

[@robbie9030]

No mention of the EU funded moves of UK manufacturing to EU countries. No mention of the duties collected by the UK for all imports coming into the being passed onto the EU. Where does that money go?

[@RaptorJesus.]

you forgot to censor out the 2 offensive words at 0:30

[@taitaylor86]

the m and t words?

[@RaptorJesus.]

taitaylor86 ofcourse! :)

[@dealornomeal4u500]

Omg someone sue the BBC

[@magnuswalker7957]

Didn't catch the words, were they Tony Blair? 🐖

[@paulineschofield4571]

One hundred and sixty one million quid a weekn for sweet fanny adams Even if these figures were correct Thats still one hundred and sixty one million reasons to get out as the EU will not exist soon

[@olliereed4206]

They convienently forgot the VAT contributions..

[@benadams6555]

£164m a week and we get to run our own country

[@lordoffrog2354]

we still have open door immigration & that for me seals my vote

[@blindbrad4719]

Did not age well at all 😂 are you glad to know Brexit solved your problems?

[@dbsirius]

I can taste the bias in all BBC videos...

[@BeepDerpify]

by stating facts?

[@dbsirius]

Pemphro If you watch their other videos, you'll get what i mean.

[@BeepDerpify]

***** No, you commented on this video. It doesn't agree with your views so it must be obviously bias.

[@dbsirius]

Pemphro The BBC are well known for being one-sided on the majority of political issues. I made a comment about the BBC as a whole.

[@BeepDerpify]

***** then I hope you make comments like these when BBC reports about a cat stuck in a tree. Also, it's impossible to not have bias. Different reporters and journalists will always favour a side. You made this comment knowing fully well that it suggests that this video is biased against the leave campaign and that the facts are not true. Which is wrong.

[@adrianread8451]

A question .. Currently the EU website ( Europa.co ) claims the cost of running the EU is 6% of the total monies received .. it did however 12 months ago state the cost was 11% ... Better still , at the time of the UK voting out it stated the cost was 25% , of all monies received .. I know this because i studied Europa.com .. however i have no screenshots to prove this .. can anybody help ?

[@garyb455]

Complete pack of lies the BBC must off forgot to mention the 20% of all VAT collected in the UK sent to the EU and also the Tariffs we collect are sent to the EU for example 40% on Basmati Rice just to mention one product. My research has shown me that we pay something like £38 billion a year. But we do get a little bit of it back.

[@hfredydl]

Well it's still a lot ... Mathematically speaking it's logical to keep the over 100 million pounds that go to the EU and keep it... That's a high price for being a membership of anything

[@jeremyhook1818]

Loss of sovereignty, priceless

[@portly2496]

There is also a trade deficit of £70 billion per year to the other EU members which should appear here but strangely doesn't.

[@neinno8172]

Where is that figure from?

[@TREXdudi]

Sir the money which UK get back from the EU can not be spend on what UK government want, it has to be spend on what EU says and on specific project that EU want. so basically they give you money and TELL you how to spend it. this is not right.

[@DamienGolding]

Wrong. It's not 161 million pounds a week because all the EU legislation politicians and businesses have to keep up with, all the unskilled immigrants that eat up welfare, non-speaking immigrants that eat up welfare and require translators and interpreters, excessive immigration that overburdens certain schools, hospitals and other public institutions, the different-cultured immigrants that cause police-requiring incidents, etc. are not taken into consideration. Plus, I am no expert on the matter, but I would need proof from a few resources that money isn't going directly or indirectly to the EU through other means.

[@Malgravy]

actually EU migrants are a net benefit to the UK treasury.

[@Malgravy]

actually EU migrants are a net benefit to the UK treasury.

[@DamienGolding]

I didnt mention the UK treasury, I am talking about the general public.

[@Malgravy]

+Damien Golding have a read. blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/immigration-demons-and-academic-evidence/

[@DamienGolding]

Peter Lote Thanks for the link, but it provides no evidence against my claims. If the UK got to choose the better immigrants, then the statistics would only look better. Those kind of statistics look good because of chavs, etc. which is a completely different problem and that luckily there has also been a large wave of contributing immigrants from places like Poland. There are also matters like housing prices which could be better controlled if immigration wasn't completely uncontrolled. My point is, these kinds of programmes provide basic statistics which don't represent reality. The government sees unrepresentative statistics, people see reality.

[@jennyroseatmada5195]

huge!weekly membership fee?

[@JonathanLevinTKY]

Timing for this video could not be worse.

[@xBeeeefy]

How much money is going towards all these graphics?

[@vulpes3426]

Oh the comments on this video is gonna get salty tonight.

[@arthurthompson8241]

161 million a week? you could build a new hospital every week instead of paying for stuff somebody else uses

[@DaveBraga]

Would be nice to know what all that is per-capita. Most people can't be expected to think at a national level in millions and billions of pounds weekly and get a good grasp of that really means. When you just float big numbers, someone's often hiding something.

[@jonathanevans4133]

These "EU State" payments to UK projects are decisions the UK government cannot decide to allocate directly, without the overhead of EU bureaucrats? The rebate is being discontinued in 2020. The forthcoming EU State budget, some €1.3tn for the next period five years will be funded by Germany and the UK? EU payments and its failed fishery policy have decimated the UK fishing industry by allocating the UK fishing ground quotas to French, Dutch, Spanish over-fishing. No, it is not just €350m it is in fact far more in the future, so controlling the UK tax-payers money for the UK should be obvious.