What is the smallest Zoo that can get 1000 Guests?

[@E4tHam]

At first I felt bad the Gazelle had so little room. Then 1800 people were crammed together and suddenly the Gazelle pen started looking pretty good!

[@kleinerfarmer1]

It's all a matter of perspective

[@juliamavroidi8601]

Guest 999 doesn't look happy

[@vaakdemandante8772]

yep, if I were one of those guest I would gladly switch places with the gazelle and live a posh life in her mansion ;)

[@Lucatin]

Hate that gazelle. fuckin' 1% Who needs that much space?

[@filiaaut]

Yeah, but the 1800 people path has a better view on the "swing behind the white fence", a world-class attraction, at least according to the ads that I keep seeing everywhere.

[@MrCheeze]

"You been to the tiny gazelle cage lately?" "Nah, there's nothing interesting there." "Actually you can see a swing behind a fence now" "Holy shit LET'S GO"

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

Might as well call it a museum, some famous person sat on it when they were a kid.

[@scaper12123]

This has major "the talking dog at the shell shack is SINGING" vibes

[@Rockario]

I love that the minimum zoo is literally just a themed restaurant with a gazelle mascot

[@GamePlague]

I would totally visit a restaurant with a gazelle

[@filiaaut]

You forgot about the display swing, which I am convinced is the most important part.

[@Soinetwa]

@@GamePlague fair point

[@ToxicAtom]

Rainforest Cafe Tycoon

[@breakfast7595]

@@GamePlague Do we get to eat the gazelle at the restaurant?

[@ZeraTheRedRogue]

I can only imagine the horrors that singular bathroom has seen with a constant flow of 1000+ guests at every hour of the day.

[@jurakarok3343]

The worst game of musical chairs.

[@iainwalker8701]

Try a 24hr McDonald's toilet at 3am when all the local nightclubs close.

[@SupersuMC]

@@iainwalker8701 That...does not sound like fun, actually.

[@JadeLockpicker]

@@SupersuMC as a former was McD employee... Yeah.

[@geckoguy4141]

It's probably just a giant hole like that one the squirrels chucked that girl down in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

[@joeg451]

I love the fact that you *could* have given the guests access to the tree swing without compromising the challenge, but you didn't because you're a sadist.

[@MarcelVos]

Actually you get guests a lot slower if they have access to the swing. I think it might have something to do with it being occupied so guests think it's not available and leave.

[@JevinJohnson-CloudShift]

@@MarcelVos Thats all fine and good, but I'll choose to believe it's because you didn't like them

[@AdamDavidDunlop]

@@MarcelVos makes sense, I definitely love to stick around places where what I want is just out of reach but tauntingly close

[@robovelcro]

I thought it woulda been because fences couldnt be placed on the same tile, meaning it'd technically take up more space, which as we all know, Marcel hates lol

[@Skyblade12]

Ah, I see Marcel pulled the old “replace the hamster while the kids aren’t looking and pretend it lived longer” trick.

[@SupersuMC]

That is a mean trick to pull on your kids. Sooner or later they have to learn what death is.

[@RatelHBadger]

@@SupersuMC not in a game they dont

[@kain0m]

@@RatelHBadger if the game is played by Marcel, they will. First hand.

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

Hamster went to heaven

[@lowenevvan8619]

Me playing this game: Penguin 241 thinks there's slightly too much water in his drink. Marcel playing this game: Canned Gazelle loved by thousands.

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

& removes inaccessible swing

[@fruitsalatwithfruit]

Guest: "The Gazelle was cool and all, but the swing on the other side of the fence was just astonishing. 10/10 would go there again."

[@LucasL512]

It's not the swing that entertains the guests, it's about the idea of being able to swing that keeps them going

[@runescapefan0001]

The guests are people who buy lottery tickets and the swing is the jackpot

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

They're witnessing an in game Easter egg

[@Cittiverse]

And the award for Most Popular Zoo goes to... this really cramped Mexican restaurant with a gazelle out front!

[@AccSwtch50]

And a swing that no one can swing on.

[@wonkehcheetah1138]

I'm only imagining how the commercials for this "zoo" are with all the money going into marketing. "Come down to the Prarie Dog Cafe for scrumptious meals! We have a Gazelle! And the most fun (display only) swing in the tri state area!

[@NEEDbacon]

I mean, it works doesn't it?

[@Surg-265]

[@gamesthatiplay9083]

I still remember the "traveling petting zoo with a goat" that was at a craft fair. Turned out it was literally one goat, but like 100s of people all around the 1 goat. The guy running the "zoo" said the craft fair said there would only be a few dozen people there, maybe 2 dozen kids, so the fair didn't want to pay for much, but every kid in town just walked there to see the "zoo."

[@vaakdemandante8772]

games these days, so life like ;)

[@607]

That's an amazing story. When was this?

[@gamesthatiplay9083]

@@607 Maybe a decade ago. I've seen much better "traveling zoos." Where they've had a lot of tents, with animals packed in cages with tiny walkways. One had an elephant. There just wasn't enough room for the animals and felt sad to see, but what do you expect with a traveling zoo?

[@607]

​@@gamesthatiplay9083 ​ @Games That I Play Huh, interesting. Weird to have that with a goat though, as you'll be able to find those at... petting zoos, too? Huh. Okay, I didn't realise this was the same thing. :P In Dutch they're called "children's farm".

[@Soken50]

@@gamesthatiplay9083 Actually a traveling zoo with only a goat is probably the best there could be short of not existing at all. So no the ones you saw weren't "better", they were objectively worse, with more animals leading miserable lives behind bars for your enjoyment and the peddler's profits. Good thing these "zoos" are on the way out these days, they're awfully inhumane. Unless they're in properly sized enclosures for conservation or breeding programs, exotic wild animals should be left in their native environments.

[@iamthesentinel584]

"Sold the gazelle and bought a fresh one" hahahaha I love it

[@NEEDbacon]

Gotta have fresh Gazelle you know.

[@karizake]

When you blink and suddenly the gazelle has de-aged several years.

[@renakunisaki]

I didn't notice. I was too busy admiring the swing.

[@tailgrowth]

"Hey man, do wanna go down to zoo and see the gazelle?" "Nah, they don't even have any entertainment." "That's not true! They added a swing you can look at behind a fence!" "I'm down!"

[@dappertron]

I'd love to see what the marketing department put out to make this bucket with a gazelle in it such a popular joint.

[@lexingtonbrython1897]

It's the restaurant, really. Best fried gazelle in town.

[@SupersuMC]

@@lexingtonbrython1897 😂🤣😭

[@kamj6607]

@@lexingtonbrython1897 the gazelle enchiladas are amazing!

[@mebamme]

3:25 I like to think you saw a real-life restaurant for the first time and are now excitedly explaining them to someone.

[@bentalkshockey]

It would be cool to see you incorporate more of these tycoon games! I know your primary focus is RCT but it’s cool to see you figuring out the mechanics of these games and presenting it in a similar way to the RCT videos. Thanks dude!

[@traindude70]

Ski resort tycoon

[@hoo2042]

Marcel Vos: Tycoon tycoon :P

[@crowhaveninc.2103]

Transport Tycoon would also be real cool

[@jvkstudios]

Industry Giant Tycoon II please!

[@Roozyj]

I used to have Fast Food Tycoon and it was the weirdest game ever. I'd be very curious to see Marcel play it xD

[@bcubs1939tp]

Add so it begins... in 1 year time, Marcel will of poured over the code to develop a method of filling every tile of an exhibit with large poo forcing some graphical bug interaction causing Orcas to spawn non-stop giant squids which can be sold at an insane profit indefinitely

[@WereDictionary]

-Im happy to see that Marcel broadened his horizon and graduated from torturing guests only to torturing guests and animals- In all seriousness, I'd love to see more about Zoo Tycoon.

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

How do you do the strikethrough one here? 🤔

[@WereDictionary]

@@TS_Mind_Swept put a - right before and after the thing you want crossed out. I dont know if a line break works with it though.

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

@@WereDictionary -like this?- Guess so; well thx

[@FestusOmega]

@@TS_Mind_Swept Italics works the same way with an underscore _ and bold works with asterisks *

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

@@FestusOmega already knew the *bold* , butt thanks for the _italics_

[@Aaahrg]

I still prefer this game over Planet Zoo just like I prefer RCT over Planet Coaster. Maybe its because the modern games are like: Played 5 hours designed a single coaster/enclosure gets bored. Play the Tycoon games 5 hours desiged a whole park and have lot of fun doing so. Maybe its just me.

[@Oniromanciee]

I agree 100% with you

[@MarcelVos]

That's exactly why I love these games so much. You can spend 30 minutes building really basic stuff and you have a small functional theme park or zoo. If you want you can still spend a lot of time on it, but you don't have to to make something nice.

[@sillybeanthing]

Planet Zoo and Planet Coaster also are just so high maintenance if you have a large zoo you have to check everything all the time

[@elusivefrog]

in planet zoo and planet coaster, every single thing is a time investment and wrestling with the unintuitive building controls. it makes doing anything make me feel stressed. making something in rct and zt is just fun. goofing off and enjoying yourself feels like the main goal instead of creating some ultra realistic hyper-optimized simulation and management game. I exclusively play in sandbox bc I can’t be bothered to worry about prices, and find fun in the creativity. somehow I find the more open designs of the newer games more restrictive because of the barrier to entry and differences in time investment.

[@sillybeanthing]

@@elusivefrog I agree 100%. It gets me bored too quickly because I just wanna put things down and watch them do what they need to do, not manage how much food each and every animal and person gets for how much money

[@banananana2]

I think at one point my older sister told me that guests would leave your park if they've seen every animal (similar to how people go to zoos in real life) but I guess that wasn't true lmao

[@MarcelVos]

I have been told that too by some Zoo Tycoon experts. They don't understand how the swing makes such a big difference.

[@TheTecManiac]

@@MarcelVos "Alright, I´ve seen everything there is to see here, I´m going home!" "But you haven´t noticed our swing yet!" "Ah, now that you mentioned it, no I have not. May I swing on it?" "... no." "Interesting. I will stay here then and ponder lifes mysteries."

[@Cubics_Rube]

Is this really a Zoo at this point? Or just a Mexican themed restaurant where the owner has a pet Gazelle for some personal reasons, and owns a giant plot of land? :D Entertaining video as always, and - though I love RCT - I do enjoy the diversion into videos about other tycoon games.

[@AccSwtch50]

Lol

[@br2485]

Philosophers are terrified of the answer

[@chankljp]

'Mexican Restaurant Tycoon' (May include gazelle)

[@AlyxForest]

Do I have Zoo Tycoon? No (and I wish I did). Am I going to watch a random KZbin video about how to break Zoo Tycoon? No. Am I going to watch Marcel Vos break Zoo Tycoon? Absolutely.

[@ChicDead26]

Zoo Tycoon is absolutely amazing, man! Give it a try some day

[@markduffin9192]

@@ChicDead26 Need a place to get it, wish there was an openRCT2 like version

[@taffyadam6031]

creepy furry

[@ThatGastrodon]

Internet archive software repository

[@sillybeanthing]

It's on abandonware as well

[@Techhunter_Talon]

Rollercoaster Tycoon and Zoo Tycoon, two games from my childhood. Loved the expansions for Zoo Tycoon that added aquatic animals, pre-historic animals, and ice age animals. If you really wanted to, you could make your own Jurassic Park.

[@calvinmills4069]

Marcel is going to single handedly bring about OpenZT1

[@Centbair]

"Pause the game, put a new one in, and un-pause. They won't know the difference." Is this how my goldfish lived for ever, or the school hamster? but yh, great vid. I enjoyed your RCT content and enjoying your Zootycoon stuff~

[@Davtwan]

Despite the conditions, the gazelle was still quite happy. We could all learn from that.

[@Dabeyoun]

It's not a zoo, it's a very successful restaurant with the owner's pet on display.

[@Duker_Dude]

The animal happiness bar is such an important part of Zoo Tycoon. Like there's no reason to feel bad about the Gazelle in the 2 tile exhibit, just check his happiness stat, he LOVES it.

[@Darilon12]

You could built the path to the side instead of straight. The gazelle and swing with just one fence at the narrow ends of the path, the restaurant at the two tile wide side. It's technically one fence hence one tile smaller.

[@gymnasiast90]

Seeing how simple and limited the algorithms are that Zoo Tycoon 1 has makes me doubly thankful for how sophisticated RCT’s are. Played ZT1 a lot when I was a kid, but was always a bit miffed about the dumb Maintenance Worker AI, and the lack of an assignment area for them.

[@BrownFoxWarrior]

Someone came up behind the gazelle, gagged it, dragged it off, and threw down a new one in the blink of an eye.

[@strawberrylemonadelioness]

What I've learned from various Zoo Tycoon challenges is the Prarie Dog Cafe is over powered

[@Smell-O-Vision-Citrus]

I'm so excited to see you branching out from RCT content into adjacent games!!! As much as I enjoy the RCT2 videos, expanding the scope of the channel is such a good idea. Keep up the great work!!

[@hennaoctopus]

Im so happy you're doing these zoo tycoon videos! I had both games as a kid but i played zoo tycoon way more than rct. Im excited to your explanations on all its quirks!

[@AngelAniki]

Wait, it's that easy to increase the guest limit? The 1000 guest limit was always my biggest issue with the game; there was no reason to expand your zoo when you hit it.

[@jvkstudios]

That's no zoo, that's a restaurant with a Gazelle.

[@tpc_red9884]

People make fun of me when I say that my favorite childhood memory was when my mom took me to Gazelle in a Box, but if you were lucky enough to witness the annual changing of the gazelle you understand.

[@Lukeno52]

It is amazing just how much simpler the mechanics are in this game than RCT's were.

[@Croutonking65]

God this game brings back memories. I remember I once found a guide that showed some crazy exhibit combinations, like you could put ankylosaurus with lions and they would both be happy. Wish I I could find that guide again

[@sandpatch133]

02:48 So a polar bear playing with a ball shrinks in size

[@chaosmurloc93]

Ambiguousamphibian sends his regard

[@FoundationAfro]

I loved the Zoo Tycoon games (though definitely not as much as the RollerCoaster Tycoons). As a kid I thought all the tycoon games were connected, and luckily I didn't play any of the bad ones trying to cash in on the name. I played RollerCoaster 1&2, Zoo 1&2, and Golf Resort 1, which all have decent numbers, looking at Wikipedia. Anyway, rambling about two-decade old games aside, it's nice to see that you're evil in multiple games. I guess.

[@annana6098]

I really appreciate your videos. I played all of these tycoon games when I was young, and was frustrated by these hidden parameters and finally got stuck on a map that I attempted over and over. I probably didn't have any entertainment because I was spending all the money on animal habitats.

[@omg2manyusers]

I’ve been away from this channel for a while, as while it’s fascinating to hear the various aspects of the early Roller Coaster Tycoon series I don’t have much interest in the series. Spotting this in my feed, however, filled me with glee - Zoo Tycoon 1 was part of my childhood library. It's fascinating!

[@kleko]

I have a feeling you might end up having a good day today Marcel.

[@bananeyfish]

This was one of my first computer games as a child and it's still one of my favorite games tbh so I'm so glad it's getting some love. Now if only it was available to play on GOG or something

[@crabman3144]

Knowing that Zoo Tycoon was Marcel's favorite game as a kid after the recent upload of recorded footage of him playing, the answer to "Do you want more Zoo Tycoon videos?" went from "yes" to "Holy crap, yes please!"

[@Kellexar]

Marcel is about to drop the animal overview videos where he tells us why the gazelle is actually superior in every way to the T-rex

[@SupersuMC]

No way. Nothing tops the T-Rex!

[@archtansterpg4246]

I love the fact that Marcel's covering another great sim game from my childhood. Will have to get used to the style and aesthetic of his videos being used on Zoo Tycoon's graphics, though.

[@TheTrueArkher]

Ah, "Za warudo gazelle swap", oldest trick in the book, known by anyone with a basic knowledge of zookeeping.

[@EvanBear]

Yes omg zoo tycoon is such a nostalgic game please play it more!

[@derrickbiedermann9802]

Come visit the Prairie Dog Cafe, we have a gazelle outside.

[@jacobnicola5950]

I'm half an hour cracking up due to the "fresh gazelle"

[@PraecorLoth970]

Never played this game, didn't even know it existed. But it's a Marcel Vos video, so I know I'm going to be entertained, and I was. Keep up with the good work!

[@kylewhitt587]

I enjoy the way you test and explain things in games. Doesn't matter what game. Keep it up.

[@j.thomas1420]

Zoo Tycoon is my SECOND favorite game of my childhood after Roller Coaster Tycoon 2...! So happy you are exploring now this game ! :)

[@K-o-R]

"Your Honour, if it pleases the court, I would like to present the defendant's KZbin channel."

[@ChicDead26]

No amount of guest-bullying could prepare us for the animal abuse we're going to see from now on

[@Tblaster00]

I really like your videos giving another game a spotlight like you do with RCT. It adds a good amount of variety :)

[@fo-ef8qo]

swingland ft. Swingland Tavern and stange horse. park motto: "why are you all here"

[@jimbostunna]

Marcel making Zoo Tycoon videos is the only thing keeping me going

[@WayOutGaming]

Okay, as someone who's watched your channel for a long time, and plays more ZT than RCT, your RCT stuff was neat, but this, this is amazingly useful!!!

[@van0tot100]

As a kid I always dreamt of Zoo Tycoon and Rollercoaster Tycoon in one game, like on the same map. Hopefully one day a modder can make this a reality.

[@rattyeely]

Same, it's honestly my dream game. I can't believe it hasn't happened yet, despite theme park/zoo hybrids existing in real life. I wish they would at least just combine planet coaster and planet zoo, I think those might share the same engine?

[@Kamikoroshiteageru]

If you made a video on how zoo tycoon mechanics work I would definitely watch! As a kid the whole thing was just a complete mystery to me and I struggled to make profit with 50 different kinds of animals and dozens of stalls xD

[@juliamavroidi8601]

I didn't know restaurants also regenerated bathroom need, but it makes sense^^ thx for sharing!

[@jacobsekela8691]

Yes! More Zoo Tycoon! The music from the carousel at the end is absolutely nostalgic. Unlike most others, Zoo Tycoon is actually the game that got me into Tycoon games.

[@rice2meatu]

the unreachable tree swing and replacing the gazelle with a "fresh one" made me laugh

[@43Jodo]

That maintenance worker wandering off into the sunset brought back some funny memories from my childhood. This game and RCT2 were some of my first experiences with video games.

[@Baddaby]

Would love to see more ZT videos ❤

[@DaVince21]

This is a nice change of pace and just as fascinating as your RCT videos!

[@ThZuao]

LOVED this game growing up. In ZT2 you can walk around the park on first person with a gun and shoot animals with it. It's a tranquilizer gun, but it's still awesome

[@metleon]

Do the maintenance workers always go to the same corner? I'm wondering if the pathing algorithm has a quirk where the workers will prefer to go in one direction, similarly to guests in mazes in RCT.

[@renakunisaki]

I wonder if they have a habit of ending up at 0,0

[@vrapbrap]

Oh hey I remember this game. It was on the local library computer when I was a kid. I remember noticing the steadily updated saves it had and ruined them all by making peepee enclosures and getting everything burned to the ground before overwriting the saves. Good times.

[@limrockthe1st]

I’ve been waiting for you to do this game for years! So glad it’s finally here.

[@TaraTheFox]

Haha one of my old favorite games, love it, would like to see more. I used to deal with wandering staff by trapping them near the exhibits with rocks/water. Maintenance workers are still tough to manage though, since sometimes it seems the one on the opposite side of the park with no valid pathing would get assigned a task, instead of the one standing right next to it...

[@tadghcr2175]

Love the extreme qualifications clarifying not every guest is instantly happy if your animals are happy. I remember playing this game growing up and I can't tell you how many guests would be maximum angry with complaints like "Zebra 23 is overjoyed 🤬"

[@NoobicusProductions]

I am so happy zoo tycoon is getting coverage now! This is the game that sent me on an absolute tycoon addiction in my early youth leading me to all kinds of weird titles like moon tycoon and monopoly tycoon

[@marycrawford7209]

Oh man, this brings back memories. Zoo Tycoon 1 and 2 were my entire childhood. I wish they were easier to get lately, because I’d love to play them again. ZT really needs the OpenRCT2 treatment.

[@zalybrainlessgenius503]

You're reaching out to Zoo Tycoon! OMG no way! ♥ Always loved your videos, but I personally never played RollerCoaster Tycoon, so I never really understood what you were talking about :D

[@marinary1326]

honestly, given my frustrations with getting guests to keep their needs up in these tycoon games, only giving them 2 tiles of path so they can't get lost on the way to the restaurant seems like a godsend of a strategy

[@renakunisaki]

I love when games have easily edited config files like that.

[@cody7807]

That was a fun game. I didn't play it anywhere near as much as RCT2, but it's cool to see someone talking about it. I thought I was like the only person that played Zoo Tycoon lol.

[@ruben7420]

You got a shoutout from Ambiguousamphibian!

[@kremstoin]

I fucking loved the original Zoo Tycoon! So much nostalgia! Also that poor Gazelle...

[@fie4426]

I love how you phrase the ridiculousness of the reality of the game. It's super funny

[@ChiefLink]

Swing: *exists* Guests: Shut up and take my money!

[@daffers2345]

This is very reminiscent of a junky tourist-trap place you might still see in remote parts of the United States. It's nothing more than a crummy overhyped restaurant, with a single swing (no one can use it of course) and a single pathetic animal to be stared at. I love it!

[@MrSpeedysam60]

If you used a solid wall that can't be seen through for the gazelle enclosure, does this affect guest generation or happiness?

[@Patashu]

The fenced off swing has me rolling. Never change

[@unnameduser1994]

I really love that you are expanding to Zoo Tycoon! Do all of dem classics. In some way, you and the youtuber "Let's Game It Out" are alike, I think. I'm not sure, however, whether it's your habit of breaking the game or the sadism... Good unique selling point though!

[@stalkingtiger777]

This Gazelle must be from Japan. Being happy living in a closet. That thing looks like a 4 tatami space max.

[@idontwantahandlethough]

Marcel, I have a very important question for you: when you introduce yourself, do people ever ask if you have shoes on, or say something to that effect? Or call start talking about your pet lint named Alan? Because I think I'd have a hard time not doing so.

[@MA-naconitor]

"Bought a fresh gazelle" is a sentence I never knew I would hear ever in my life.

[@Jaxymann]

First Rollercoaster Tycoon and now Zoo Tycoon, Marcel's bringing my early 2000s PC gaming nostalgia back💜

[@NovaAge]

Wait, does that mean that a single restaurant is enough to support 1800 guests? They balance-tested this game, right?

[@JasonPullara]

brb setting up a kickstarter for a killer restaurant idea.

[@S0ulGh0st]

I have adopted a very strict like policy a few months ago, and you sir just got one of them!

[@finn_underwood]

The secret Yellow Brick Path which gives 10 happiness and zero upkeep was a good choice for the path.