What is the substitutionary atonement?

[@jenniferramos7024]

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[@nicholreed7008]

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[@godsgospelgirl]

I appreciate your clear and concise videos.

[@JonathanGrandt]

Substitutionary Atonement is not the same as Penal Substitution. Sub Atonement = Jesus died for us. Penal Sub = Christ punished in our place. The latter is a type of sub atonement but it is not the only one.

[@andryranivoarizaka9772]

To whom/what is this price paid ?

[@RobertGaron]

Jesus’s life for ours.

[@simonskinner1450]

No price was paid for sin, the wages of sin is death, but Jesus knew no sin only death. Jesus just changed the covenant of Moses to allow repentance and judgement.

[@andryranivoarizaka9772]

@@simonskinner1450 Where does the covenant of Moses doesn't allow repentance and judgement ?

[@simonskinner1450]

@@andryranivoarizaka9772 The covenant ofoses when broken brings a curse of death, good and life or evil and death. Atonement allows only that a believer can go back to worship and repentance. This is true in the NT but managed differently.

[@dfighternelams6387]

So what are they trying to say, that what Jesus did for all of mankind was merely a substitute for our sins? Sorta like a substitute teacher grading test in place of the Real teacher?

[@josuezunigafl]

Could you carefully rewrite your statement?

[@DjSostre7]

@@josuezunigafl could you carefully re read his statement? What was so hard about his question; that you didn't understand?

[@simonskinner1450]

There is no substitutionary atonement even possible, atonement comes through repentance from sin, and a profession of faith to God.

[@johnmichaelson9173]

So God paid Satan a ransom, Jesus. I think Isaiah is talking about Israel not Jesus. The suffering servant is Israel.

[@martin-yr3rh]

Israel died for the sins of the world?😮

[@simonskinner1450]

Jesus did not sin but he did die, he was raised so he defeated death, his death allowed the covenant of Moses to change. Jesus can take away death not sin. I have a Ytube video series called 'Myths in so-called Christianity', atonement comes by a profession of faith.

[@Kizzy-vv5op]

But if he defeated death, he defeated the wages of sin, thus taking away sin

[@simonskinner1450]

@@Kizzy-vv5op Jesus defeated death because he had no sin. He did not take away sin he had not committed, but redeemed himself as a man sanctified in his covenant made due to his death, there was no atonement of sins at the Cross, but because he was perfect he could justly go to heaven. For true believers who have the Spirit, Jesus is the way because he did not sin, however our atonement is guaranteed in his covenant as our past are forgiven at baptism into his church, but if we sin by lack of faith then we break the covenant.

[@simonskinner1450]

@@Kizzy-vv5op Sorry I just got your point. No there was no pre-payment of sins made at the Cross, but in his covenant he can forgive past sins at baptism when we are judged, because he has power over death fir those in his church.