What is the world coming to?!?! FIBERGLASS REBAR? Pumping concrete with Muddyfeet

Pumping concrete with the trailer pump. Using the line pump to place concrete on this pool deck. Here we come across fiberglass rebar. I was told it had a higher tensile strength and longer life span than steel rebar. Will see. Lol.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

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[@JonDingle]

That fiberglass rebar will stop concrete cancer, caused by rusty rebar. I suspect it is expensive but better to use than steel.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Steel has actually gotten higher than the fiber glass

[@fuzzybutkus8970]

Never saw that. I retired a few years ago.Has to a lot of give to it. Rod busters must love it. We put a lot of laborers of work.

[@JDseller1]

I live in North-East Iowa. We have been using fiberglass rebar in livestock floors for years. I mean like 20+ years. The main advantage is it does not rust. The corrosion from manure makes regular rebar rust and busts the concrete.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

I see what your saying

[@laurentdekeukeleire5084]

Hi, have you ever had the problem where the FRP mesh/rebar floats to the top during pouring because it's so light?

[@JDseller1]

@@laurentdekeukeleire5084 We always stake and wire our rebar so it stays in place while pouring. If we can no stake it we use rebar risers under the rebar. You then push the rebar down against them while pouring.

[@laurentdekeukeleire5084]

@@JDseller1 so you think the mesh/rebar would go up while pooring if you didnt use stakes or didnt hold it?

[@JDseller1]

@@laurentdekeukeleire5084 As your pouring you will have to position the fiber glass rebar to the depth you want it at. You have to do this with steel rebar too if you do not stalk it.

[@laurentdekeukeleire5084]

Hi, have you ever had the problem where the FRP mesh/rebar floats to the top during pouring because it's so light?

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

No I haven’t seen that before

[@philhammond5908]

You put those wheel chocks in the deep footings;-).

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Good idea !

[@mikeingeorgia1]

Are there any reasons why you can’t? Wouldn’t they be very solid?

[@leonardoarreola5818]

dose dumping the hose with 1 person like that still work the fast ?

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

I guess I don’t understand what you mean

[@kurtholzer9619]

How do you clean the hose sections you pull off before running the sponge?

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

The ones we pull off will roll the concrete out and then rinse with water. Works pretty well

[@kurtholzer9619]

@@MuddyfeetConcretePumping I saw that you rolled them out, wasnt sure about the rinsing, Thanks.

[@user990077]

On the KZbin channel Odell Complete Concrete he talks about the fiberglass rebar he is using in several of his latest videos.

[@eddiecabrera1408]

That was a nice job you guys poured over there in that backyard would have been nice if it was yours huh muddy feet.👍👍👍

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Maybe one day

[@CowboyCarCrushing]

Good morning 🤠👍

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Morning brother!

[@derrick9635]

Japers jeff that site very short on men lol

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

I guess

[@mathtime4578]

We have looked into the fiberglass reinforcement. Lighter, smaller size to equal same strength, and cheaper for the same strength comparison. Draw backs fiberglass so you have to be careful handling it as well as cutting. It doesn't bend so corner bars have to be made. Alot of municipalities dont know anything about it so getting an inspection could require a engineers stamp. We have looked into it and would be a consideration if more readily accepted. A little more of a problem for doing walls when it doesn't bend.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

I guess in time they’ll be more excepted.

[@kstaxman2]

@@MuddyfeetConcretePumping maybe but the issue of corners and how you join them together. Certainly no welding possible. And any kind of pier or complex use is hampered with no welding and even tie wires might have special issues. Good idea but I need some questions answered.

[@FortuneZer0]

Also fiberglass doesnt corrode and expand so concrete might last even longer than conventional reinforced one.

[@mathtime4578]

@@FortuneZer0 very true. Less problems from accelerators like calcium. The ties would still be an issue for walls. I see alot of advantages, hopefully it becomes more widely accepted.

[@littlefinkle7757]

If it doesn't bend, what is the ductile strength rating? I really like having my corners bent. Making lintels above door and window openings sounds tough also as you would need "S" hooks to tie horizontal runs together.

[@michaelschwanke2810]

Man I get those boulders In a corse masonry grout mix which is only suppose to have a few rocks here and there. That's from them not washing the drum out properly.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

I agree

[@thepubliceye]

No rust concrete could last forever.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

They say 200 years

[@MrChancebozey]

It is like when they thought aluminum wire was a good option over copper. Bad idea based on a bad premise.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Time will tell

[@Commissar0617]

fiberglass also doesn't rust

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

That was one of the selling points

[@stephenbinkley]

i used a different type of fiberglass rebar in precast

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Interesting

[@kstaxman2]

Love watching you guys work.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

We appreciate it!!!

[@justinaulgur9812]

We use it everyday here in Missouri. Easy to cut and handle.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

I could see that being the case.

[@roddiener]

Real easy to bend also, make your own 90's on site do ya?

[@justinaulgur9812]

@@roddiener no we use steel as well when needed. We use fiberglass in driveways and sidewalks mostly

[@BigMike67]

Hey Jeff , That fiber glass rebar, don't know about that one !! If you properly elevate the steel by using chairs or some guys use those cement bricks and break them in half , and keep people from walking all over the steel . . LOL Like that's going to happen , those plastic chairs are for show for the inspectors, once they're gone , most come out . Raise the steel , get some concrete under it , then let it go Seen a lot of jobs like that one , lots of hand work , hose pullin, Lucky you could take of sections Some jobs you can't do that , but most pumpers over here used 50' hoses instead of your 25's Although they do have assorted sizes to use , they start as 50' Rub or wear a hose , cut out the bad spot , put new ends on where you cut But if you got a sida can, some time wire. And duck tape, it can usually get you thru the job . Watched you making bacon today, your pops usually out there helping you, he doin ok ?? Watch Bill's channel too , he usually comments on my posts , but you must be keeping him pretty busy as he hasnt been able too lately Well take care Brother !! I'd be willin to do a scientific taste test on that there bacon for you To make sure if its consumable. But it might take me 3 or 4 pounds to come up with a proper assessment ! Lol BigMike

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Hey Big Mike, I appreciate you commenting. I know Bill does too. Dad hasn’t been getting out much lately. He gets cold quick. Take care

[@BigMike67]

@@MuddyfeetConcretePumping well tell your pop I was thinking of him , wondering how he was doing as we havent seen him much after his garden got going Remember him helping you with the bacon , he was working the big vacuum sealer Enjoy as much time with him as you can !! BigMike

[@roddiener]

"those plastic chairs are for show for inspectors"? Those plastic chairs and dobies are called out per engineering spec, they're part of the build.."once they're gone you take them out"? Really, is that how you boys operate, that's fucked up bro. I packed iron for 30 yrs in So Cal and that shit doesn't fly here. Go ahead, keep videotaping all that iron and mesh laying on the ground, one of these days an owners gonna look at his video and see that what was promised per plan wasn't delivered. Do the job, do it right.

[@BigMike67]

@@roddiener WHAT ?? Yes the plastic chairs , usually get stomped into the ground , knocked over or whatever. Part of the build ?? They are designed to keep the steel up off the dirt . There is nothing structural about them . You can block the steel up , use chairs or rocks or whatever. Most pull up the steel as they go . Not many guys tip toe around the steel . So yes , the plastic chairs are usually for show for the inspectors, who like everything to look pretty , to show the steel is off the ground That's all . As long as you pull the steel up and make sure concrete gets underneath your good !! Steel / mesh lying around ?? See that on every job , doesn't mean the slab is sub par or anything

[@roddiener]

@@BigMike67 ok, ubu, like I said, that kind of work doesn't fly on the west coast. We find all our call outs for clearances, tolerances, coverage in The General Notes in the Structurals when placing iron, inspection out here is tight, they don't mess around, they watch pours, you get 20 finishers stomping all over shit, breaking chairs, collapsing rebar, they'll stop the poor and make whoever fix whatever. I've worked dozens of high rise PT decks and inspectors measure profiles on cable runs, deck clearances for rebar, top clearances, side/edge of deck clearances, that shit matters, but if you're just pouring slab on grade for someone's garage, do what ya want, it's all show right?

[@MrTmwilliamson]

I learn something new every time I watch your videos.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Somedays you just never know

[@GoldsConcrete]

Our jobs can get pretty chaotic and not to mention our guys are animals haha, We Ould have so much broken rebar each job using these but their is potential in this

[@johnny5stickswilliams696]

Don’t forget the safety clips in the clamps lads

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Of course

[@harryellingsworth8302]

30 years ago I have seen Fiberglass Rebars use in the upper 20 foot of Electric Power Poles, some of these poles weight over 95,000 lbs.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Dang!

[@rodfrost5051]

What about bends?

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Man I really don’t know. I’m sure they are prefabricated. Just guessing

[@maxobara1496]

Nice job Jeff, lots of finish work like you said. Keep them pumping!! Also just listen to your pod cast again, Rock ⭐️ 👍🇺🇸

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Thanks man!!!

[@papaw5405]

I learned about you from Dirt Perfect. I had all I could take of him and unsubscribed, but I'm still with you and enjoying every minute!

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Thanks for hanging out.

[@leanntucker5818]

Are you married ??? 😜😜. You don’t wear a wedding ring ❤️

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Sorry but I’m married to a smoking hot cougar

[@leanntucker5818]

😂😂

[@jaredspear8140]

We’ve used some of that fiber bar. Definitely lighter. About 15% more expensive. Our advantage was no bonding inspections here in Okc market. The city was 3-4 weeks on inspections! Then the city decided they didn’t like it. Cost me about $8k and 4 months of delays on two projects. This was after they passed multiple pools & pool decks. Can’t fight the govt though. We won’t be using it in this market any longer. Guys hated it too because the amount of fiberglass in their clothes. They also make pre-bent 90’s in that material.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Good points. I wondered if it could get itchy

[@jaredspear8140]

@@MuddyfeetConcretePumping lmao. Oh yeah. When you cut it that crap floats in the air. Damn sure don’t want to touch it with bare skin either. Same as any other fiberglass!

[@kstaxman2]

@@jaredspear8140 I think it's like a lot of these new products. To much special handling. And buying corners and such over just bending them. Add in the problems of knowing how inspections will go and it's a tough sell. And a wall would be more than a little problem as the guys can't climb the cage so it's now all leader work to build it as I see it.

[@jaredspear8140]

@@kstaxman2 definitely learning curves. It’s not too Flexible to climb out of a wall and does hold its shape very well. Tensile strength of the #3 bar is of #4 they say. Overall I’d say a good product but not enough info on it now to be flooding a market. Hasn’t proven so strong it keeps concrete from cracking so it ain’t that much better. Lol

[@rodneyphillips2818]

I poured a few slabs at the National Magnetics lab in Tallahassee FL they used the fiberglass bars so the magnets wouldn't stick to the floor

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

That makes sense

[@johnnytyrrell7060]

I have not seen that fiberglass rebar yet here in Ireland and the first two mins of the video plays twice.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Yes that had been brought to my attention. Not sure how to fix it without taking it down. Will se

[@francodeiuliis1562]

Hey Jeff I see Ryan from victory was down to see you that’s awesome They use fibreglass rebar here sometimes but it’s not ribbed (for pleasure)lol it’s coated with a sand type material very expensive DOT uses it here sometimes on overpass side walls because they use so much road salt here in the winter Cheers from Nova Scotia

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Ryan’s a real good guy. Enjoyed having him here

[@johnny5stickswilliams696]

And no slump test come on lads if you want to be professional do it right do it once

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

That is up to the contractor not us.

[@richardsnyder9271]

I like the no rust with the rebar. Usually where the concrete starts to come apart first

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

That was one of the selling points

[@fyrman9092]

Interesting using the fiberglass rebar. I wonder if DOT is going to permit it in bridges? The epoxy steel and uncoated steel degrade in bridges here in NY from the salt.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

I’m sure it’s in the research process

[@darrelldavis3212]

Fiberglass rebar? How strong.? How long will it hold up? Got look up on KZbin. Be safe. Stay warm!!

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

I was told it had a lot stronger tensile strength than rebar. And I think they said if was rated for 200 years

[@jjjames6861]

I remember when they came out with fiberglass shafts for golf clubs.I laughed because I had alraedy broke 3 titanium shafts in my driver.I switched to fiberglass and havent broke one yet

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

They said it was stronger.

[@paulcragg1315]

Not much point in having the rebar. Most of the spacers underneath have fallen off and pulling up the bars and then walking over them again just pushes it to the floor.Shoddy work. Good job an inspector isn’t watching. And 10 men laying to lay this small amount of soggy concrete, I’m glad I’m not paying for this lot!

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

I guess we watched a different video

[@middletennesseeconcrete3673]

Never seen it in person or used it obviously. However I know #4 steel rebar is getting ridiculously expensive. 1 20' stick of #4 in middle Tennessee is $12.50

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Yes it is getting high

[@Dex01-Z_WingZero]

I hate it! My hoses tear it right up when drug across

[@davidfuentes9223]

Hey do you use 3" hose or 4"

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

3” hoses

[@jamesmcfadden5214]

Morning brotha, noticed you edited the first two mins of the video together. Same 2 min clips or whatever back to back. Just an observation. Can't wait till you meet up with Ryan from Victory. Thats gonna be a cool collab, yinz are both cool dudes

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

I appreciate it. I have changed the video but it takes sometime to update.

[@jamesmcfadden5214]

@@MuddyfeetConcretePumping No problem brotha. Keep up the good work. Like you said, the channels doing great. Love to see it my man

[@gregstone1306]

As an old tiger the weight difference would be very attractive. I can however hear it noise from the inspectors in the distance. Good vid, thanks.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@rodfrost5051]

That fiberglass rebar must last forever once in the mud. I would imagine you can not store it in the sun thoe. I think it makes it week.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Could be right

[@darrylgriffin9603]

Non conductive too for pool applications, no need to bond and waste time and money waiting on inspections

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

That’s a plus.

[@brandonskaggs7296]

Lol ribbed for the concretes pleasure.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Lol

[@brandonskaggs7296]

@@MuddyfeetConcretePumping I have used fiber glass sticks. I don't personally care for them. If you have to "shoot" the concrete in the back of a floor. And you have the fiberglass tied it bends or flexs very easy. Its light but while pouring out of a truck it flexs bad. I like rebar better.

[@jhallam890]

Frist 4 minutes repeats it self by the way

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Looked like the first 2 minutes. My bad. That’s what I get for being in a hurry. Lol

[@CowboyCarCrushing]

It's the echo from the empty pool 😂👍

[@alexosborne5629]

Fibreglass huh??? 🤔 Think we still only use traditional steel bars, however concrete additives are replacing and reducing the need for rebar..... 🤓 We have four types over here... polypropylene, advanced polypropylene, cellulose and steel, for different types of applications. It would appear that 2022 is the year of the fin whales, not fish 🤷‍♂️🤣🤣🤣

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Free wheel chalks.

[@hastingshayandtreefarm4402]

Good video hope yall are staying warm yall can keep that white stuff up in north Texas don't send it down in southeast Texas we don't want it lol take care.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Right now will take the moisture any way we can get it.

[@hastingshayandtreefarm4402]

@@MuddyfeetConcretePumping we don't need anymore for sure.

[@joelmcdonald4297]

I love those pea gravel mixes, makes the job a little easier. I get to go out tomorrow in our sp1000 running 4 inch line cant wait lol. I was curious if you guys ever put a bag of slick pak in your grout, wonder how that would work. Also have you thought about putting a rebar grate on your pump, cant tell you how many times ours has saved us from chunks. Nice job guys, pump on!!

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

I never had much luck with the slick pack. It could be I was using it wrong but that bag of grout is fool proof.

[@michaelschwanke2810]

Hearing about yalls 3 and 4 inch hose make me feel blessed to run 2 to inch and a half hose

[@graysconcrete135]

@@michaelschwanke2810 same man I run 2in if we are pumping pea gravel and 2.5 for 3/4 rock lol.

[@BigMike67]

Can't beat go old grout mix to prime your hoses. Running a batch truck , I could shut or block off the rock , mix a auger full of slurry and then put into pump They would prop cone up , fill to bottom of hopper seat with water. At slurry, drop cone , start pumping , works every time Some use those slick packs, one guy had this stuff in a tube like tooth paste, put a little squirt on hopper wall then added water , and it foamed up and made a lot of suds Some would get a 5 gal bucket of Portland out of the trucks cement bin , mix with water then pour into hopper behind the water You dont need a lot , just enough to slick the hoses

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

@@BigMike67 I’m not a fan of the slick packs. I just trust grout weather in a bag or batched.

[@derrickpettit3489]

Awesome video Jeff, man that's a cut up pool deck, cool as heck though, yeah I've seen that fiber bar a couple times, cool stuff, light an easy to work with, thanks for sharing bud an keep up the great work 💪🇺🇸

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Thanks for watching Derrik

[@allencharlei8351]

Pea gravel is just so much easier

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Yes It is

[@joshwest1658]

How is the battle with other line pumps over there, where I’m at in California there is 1000 pumps within 20 miles an everyone is doing it for basically free! Also nobody respects you here. Is it the same there ?

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

Yes we have actually had some come in from California. Also their are the guys that are willing to do it for wages. You can see on our Facebook market place how cheap they’ll work for. Some of them are almost half as much as what I would charge.

[@freebird7284]

i guess chairs are for sitters! I never believed in fiberglass strands in concrete, i have some and it cracked just the same. Aluminum might be a good choice, more money but a lot lighter, and less corrosive. I bet the tile guy loved this job.

[@MuddyfeetConcretePumping]

I may not have done a good job of showing the guys picking the steel up as we poured it.