What Is This OpenTelemetry Thing? • Martin Thwaites • GOTO 2024

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@Dipesh_Sol 6 күн бұрын

This was one of the most fun talk I have listened to. Very informational with just the right bit of humor here and there. I laughed throughout the session and learned a lot. Started following Martin on LinkedIn

@TechTalksWeekly 28 күн бұрын

Martin is an excellent presenter and this talk is probably the best OpenTelemetry 101 that I've seen so far. It was a no-brainer for us to feature this talk the latest 💥Tech Talks Weekly newsletter issue 🎉

@CraigPerry Ай бұрын

Great presenter

@avwie132 Ай бұрын

I am more a viewmodel kind of guy

@codewkarim 16 күн бұрын

@@avwie132 I'm not a fan, I prefer ports and adapters

@kieranpotts Ай бұрын

Excellent presentation.

@mitchellmnr Ай бұрын

My servers are failing to sync time right now .... due to firewall rule limits .... should really spin up a local server for them lol Thanks for reminding me !

@juliojordan 24 күн бұрын

Thanks

@GOTO- 24 күн бұрын

Thank you very much @juliojordan. This is much appreciated! ⭐️

@AlgoNudger Ай бұрын

Thanks.

@kahnfatman 28 күн бұрын

Prerequisite to talk about server: You must have a LONG BIG ROBUST STABLE RESILIENT beard.

@martinthwaites1378 26 күн бұрын

Judging by the grey coming in, I'm worried about the "robust" side

@apestogetherstrong341 Ай бұрын

Will there be otel libraries for clojure?

@jscancella Ай бұрын

28:38 I wish there was auto instrumentation of METRICS for angular. It seems all the auto instrumentation for JavaScript is geared towards traces

@vnzinki Ай бұрын

you can try Grafana Faro for SPA and otel SDK for SSR

@pollathajeeva23 Ай бұрын

@@vnzinki I'm reviewing frontend observability products like umami, posthog also OTel based products as well but which one will be the right fit for RUM

@martinthwaites1378 26 күн бұрын

Browser based telemetry is still in its infancy with Open Source/standards based libraries. OpenTelemetry is still trying to work out what it needs to be for the frontend. SPAs need tracing and they need CWV. Just remember that you don't need Metrics (time-series aggergates) to build graphs, and you can (and should) use the collector which can convert the raw data into Metrics if you know which graph you want to build.

@jscancella 26 күн бұрын

@@martinthwaites1378 so where are the examples to do that? I am new to JavaScript. The backend written in Java has been a much better experience

@kkklllaaa1234 Ай бұрын

I’m surprised that he claims that most people don’t sync the clocks on their servers. Is that really true? I have never seen a server where clocks weren’t synced.

@DotNetMartin Ай бұрын

@kkklllaaa1234 to be clear I'm talking about whether people check to ensure that they're in sync. In cloud services it should happen automatically, and that's the assumption, but rarely checked and proven to be true. I've hit numerous situations where they've drifted over time in EC2 instances because someone blocked ports, etc.

@neilhatly Ай бұрын

Shows "Better Documentation" as coming soon. Then asks what can we do to make it easier to adopt.. Quit making Open Source so easily Silo-able into rockstars, make it easier to implement by having a documentation-first approach.

@DotNetMartin Ай бұрын

Better documentation is part of it, not the whole thing. We talk to varying types of people from the Otel side, and as a vendor we hear that struggle from prospects and customers. The idea that its plug and play is the problem in my opinion. We had that as part of the APM world and we found ourselves wanting for more. Its work to achieve good observability. Could it be easier than it is right now? Sure... should it be completely automated behind an agent, no. Documentation just isn't all of it, usage, availability, integration, those are all major things that contribute to the wider adoption issue, which is what we need data on.

@VarunSingh-mj6xc Ай бұрын

it good

@imanhdjaev 25 күн бұрын

OTEL is a complicated piece of bad taste.

@neilhatly Ай бұрын

Whimsy is cultural, and specific. We should do this less. We don't name our servers or software after obscure Dr who characters anymore. We exclude the majority of the planet with this behaviour. You want standards? You want the "young uns" to listen to you? Use plain English.

@DotNetMartin Ай бұрын

Take that as the joke it was meant to be, a dig at a past era where tools were named in a fun way. We can keep our sense of fun without excluding, it is harder though. everything doesn't need to be corporate named though.