What is Violet's Second Signet? | Ranking Every Theory | Fantasy Fangirls Podcast

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@jiyellhill8725
@jiyellhill8725 11 ай бұрын
I'm convinced Xaden expected Vi to be a truth sayer or some "type" of inntinsic, and that is the real reason why he made her ask questions...to try to uncover if her 2nd signet would be of the mind or if he felt an compelled (more than usual) to share things he would prefer not to. Uncovering that was probably the only shot he had at lessening the "I've kept that I'm intinnsic from you" blow if she could identify and share that burden with him.
@hannahemileeee
@hannahemileeee 11 ай бұрын
Sitting here crying with you guys at 4 am 😂, I’ve been here since fourth wing and you guys are such a comfort and a light. I’m SO happy for you guys! You see so many people who deserve to have recognition for their work and they don’t get it, and I’m SO happy that you guys are able to receive well deserved recognition for your work, your passion, and your warm and hilarious personalities. You guys were made for this. I pray that God will guide your path and protect and provide for you as you continue down this road and that nothing would stand against you both. So much love for you 🤍
@CarolynAndrews-t7t
@CarolynAndrews-t7t 11 ай бұрын
I think violets second signet is that she’s a soul wielder! I think that’s how she connected w Liam’s soul and spoke to him and then when she seems to "teleport" to Xaden in her sleep, she's actually just connected to his soul. And then there could be the possibility that she could help menders heal the souls of the venin by connecting their mending powers to the soul . And then her and Mira and Brennan could dream team and Mira could form the wards around venin while Brennan and Violet work to heal them and that could be how the 3 siblings prophecy comes in! Like the jealousy of the prophecy siblings created the venin and now the love of these three siblings will cure the venin. Also, if she is reflecting other's signets, maybe it's because the signets have something to do with the soul? I feel like there's a lot of possibilities there and it would be a very adaptable signet that would be super powerful and unique! Might be slightly too all-powerful, but it could be so cool!
@nicoleskorupsky1007
@nicoleskorupsky1007 11 ай бұрын
It would make sense since she does have an urge to help the people she loves. Also I think Sloane could help immensely with her siphoning signet, she could amplify Brennan and Violets signets if needed and if it truly is soul wielding then that is extremely draining and they would need help. Even “healing” Jack took months and Nolon was exhausted and almost burned out.
@alexiacoburn1166
@alexiacoburn1166 8 ай бұрын
100%! As much as I like the idea of the other signet ideas, and there are a lot of mentions of distance wielding or intinnsic types, I feel like her second signet has to be a vital part of being able to "cure" venin (and definitely not because I wouldn't survive if Xaden fully turns evil or dies), probably also in conjunction with whatever her Dad's research is about. The arguments against it being anything soul related is Liam in the torture scene being while she's under the signet blocking, and while Andarna is still asleep. BUT. For the signet blocking, it is mentioned in a later podcast that she never *tried* to talk to Andarna during the RSC map exercise because she was sleeping, so we don't know that she couldn't, and Andarna is a special dragon that we don't know a lot about. Then, I don't think Andarna still being asleep is a problem. I've not seen anyone mention this yet, but FW explained that the dragons start channeling and then the rider develops their signet when they're ready. Andarna freezing time during Oren's attack happened *_before_* Tairn and Andarna agreed to start channeling, so we know that was entirely Andarna and not Violet. Then FW chapter 22, Violet holds her own and controls her anger against Jack/Xaden/Dain's comments after sparring with Rhiannon, which leads to BOTH dragons agreeing that she's ready, which suggests Andarna starts channeling at the same time as Tairn. As we don't know how power works for adolescent dragons, it's entirely possible that the signet that Violet develops due to Andarna channeling can still happen before Andarna's rapid growth, after her rapid growth, or even just part way through the dreamless sleep. We don't know if that magic is something that is already there as a baby or not. And I view the dreamless sleep as a way for MANY things to develop, not just magic, so maybe the magic part happened near the beginning of her sleep, and the rest of the sleep was spent developing other aspects of Andarna's body and/or brain. I also think Andarna's magic being described as pearlescent is a very pure/life/soul-feeling colour, and I just don't see a way for the story to move forward to a HEA without Violet's second signet being vital to curing venin, even if the exact way in which it's vital isn't discovered until book 4.
@taylorjeans2613
@taylorjeans2613 18 күн бұрын
OH MY this is brilliant
@cynd3r22
@cynd3r22 10 ай бұрын
I think distance wielding for Aaric makes tons of sense sense because of his need to escape. His whole thing is how he hates his dad and wants to get away from him and to do this he becomes a rider so his dad can’t make him come back.
@JB-mw7zt
@JB-mw7zt 8 ай бұрын
Agree w this. He’s royalty. Blue dragon. Def gonna have a special signet.
@emy6732
@emy6732 11 ай бұрын
to add to the distance wielding theory: that signet is LITTERALLY mentioned on the page (to quote Rebecca) contrary to any other options and Violet spent the entire first part of the book waiting to be reunited with Xaden while he is posted at Samara, so we have that element of need.... I don't love that signet for Violet either, but for now, I see a lot of arguments for ...
@rocio_mb
@rocio_mb 11 ай бұрын
I'm convinced she's a distance wielder, I mean, she's been running every morning so there's the element of need.
@ThisIsTheKendom
@ThisIsTheKendom 4 ай бұрын
Correct and there is a constant theme throughout I.F.. of her needing to be somewhere but not having enough time … and Andarna saying hundreds of times “I’ll be where I’m needed” if she isn’t a distance wielder I’m going to be so shocked.
@itskatieee3
@itskatieee3 11 ай бұрын
I will just say thank you fantasy fangirls so much for being here! I don’t have a lot of friends and I don’t have any friends that read. So to have you all hear to “talk” about it with fills a void I didn’t know was there. Thank you so so so so much
@abigaildiane9362
@abigaildiane9362 11 ай бұрын
I love the light theory! Rebecca really said “blue fire dragon” and pay attention to the wording. Then “power of light” SHE PLAYED US THINKING SHE MEANT LIGHTNING
@lorispandaw6859
@lorispandaw6859 11 ай бұрын
I have listened to every minute!!!! I love hearing someone else do the heavy lifting on thinking about this stuff. Thank you!!!
@rom.na005
@rom.na005 11 ай бұрын
I can't even tell you how happy I am that I found you guys...you've been a great part of last couple of months❤
@ElfOwl49
@ElfOwl49 11 ай бұрын
One thing I like about the idea of powering sunlight as a second signet is that it is the opposite of Xaden's shadows. Remember, nature likes balance. (Still, not my top choice )
@TheSockDragon
@TheSockDragon 11 ай бұрын
I sadly havent read the next book series y’all are talking about, so I guess its time to just keep relistening to the deep dive and this episode until the next book lead up!
@paolaf2612
@paolaf2612 11 ай бұрын
I don't know what my favorite 2nd signet theory is for violet hahahah but the power of the sun is so intriguing because for some reason it is in the book coverrr!! I'm just going with the flow and letting myself be surprised hahha but i also love the talking with the deaths signet just bc of papa Sorengail research🙆🏽‍♀️ I would like to say thank you for everything, you're both amazing people and I'm so excited for what's coming with ACOTAR! Congratulations Nicole!!! I hope this brings you both so much success in your careers and life!! 💗
@ritapak12
@ritapak12 11 ай бұрын
I really like this GRAVITY power one... The fact that she can ride Andarna and elevate her team from the ground to protect them is just 🥹 Plus since I visually see what I read.. could you IMAGINE the battle with everyone levitating in the sky!!!
@CarsynLangley
@CarsynLangley 9 ай бұрын
Also, it would help prevent venin from draining the power from beneath your feet basically? Also, maybe this has something to do with chapter 64 when she’s talking about xaden dying and she can’t feel the ground beneath her feet.🤷🏼‍♀️ idk
@matthewwhite9390
@matthewwhite9390 7 ай бұрын
Will wielder. “I will not die today” “You bent the will of the most powerful most unbending Xaden.”
@FaniaSands
@FaniaSands 11 ай бұрын
You ladies and the whole FFG crew are doing amazing work. And I very much recommend joining the Patreon. The Discord chats alone are so much fun! Plus all the extra FFG content. So excited for the switch to ACOTAR!
@christinegreve5602
@christinegreve5602 11 ай бұрын
It's been amazing to watch FFG become so successful and see how it's changed your lives.😊🥰
@crimsonfarina7097
@crimsonfarina7097 11 ай бұрын
I’m so excited for ACOTAR deep dives. I’m already on ACOWAR for my re-read! I started listening/watching for Fourth Wing coverage, but I stayed for you guys! Can’t wait for the next series ❤
@curtismoore6576
@curtismoore6576 11 ай бұрын
Found your podcast about a month ago after I finished reading Fourth Wing for the first time, and since then I’ve set the speeds to 1.5x and listened to your deep dives, read Iron Flame, and caught up on the rest of your podcasts just in time for the last one on The Empyrean 😭 Thank y’all for the community! Guess I have to start ACOTAR now!
@SpectralKyuubi
@SpectralKyuubi 10 ай бұрын
Speaking with the dead even when blocked by the serum could be a huge possibility because we don’t know if there is an intense output of energy with a dragon waking from the dreamless sleep since no one has bonded with an adolescent dragon before so they wouldn’t know how to block that energy output.
@JJ367
@JJ367 10 ай бұрын
I was thinking along the same lines. Andarna is so rare they might not have the ability to block her.
@nicoleambrosio3453
@nicoleambrosio3453 11 ай бұрын
Congratulations Nicole!! I’m so excited for you and to see what opportunities this leads to ❤❤ and I’m so happy to have found this podcast cause it has definitely changed my life and brought me so much joy ❤❤❤❤
@ejw726
@ejw726 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been listening since Fourth Wing. I will miss you guys until the third book is out as I have not completed the ACOTAR series. Have a great time with your deep dives on the ACOTAR series.
@staciemaeholmes
@staciemaeholmes 10 ай бұрын
I just wanted to say that I just binged ALL your 4th Wing/Iron Flame content. And also that I appreciate you guys recording your podcast to put onto KZbin. I can't listen to podcasts and/or audiobooks but I can totally listen when its on KZbin! You guys did an amazing job with these books. I've never been one to deep delve into books, I usually just read them to enjoy the story and not questions things, but you're making me question alot of things now!! :) :) Awesome job guys!
@JeminaMonnie24601
@JeminaMonnie24601 11 ай бұрын
Congratulations Nicole! And both ofcourse with the succes of the series! Even though I'm a lot like Lexie in many ways (the over-analyzing, singing the lyrics to musical theatre songs, being the oldest, can't chose in restaurants as well and a lot more) and my sister is just like Nicole so excited about the spicy stuff, but I love both of your personalities and I think it is a big part of why you became so big. Man, you always make my mondays and I'm gonna miss Fourth Wing and Iron Flame content (my partner is now reading Fourth Wing for me, so I can talk to somebody about it. So excited, but he is reading soo slow! Started 3 weeks ago, and just read the Thressing part, an exercise in patience for me for sure. But I managed to not spoil Tairn for him. He knew I loved Andarna so he though that she was the dragon Violet was gonna get, so got him there! He also now I cried everytime I read Liam's death and at you saying goodbye to Liam as well, but he remembered it as that is it Dain who dies. But he also knows about God Fucking damn it Dain, so he is confused therexD) I finished the ACOTAR series just last week in time for next week, very excited! Starting CC en TOG as soon as possible, because I want to listen to everything! About the second signet; My first is the sunlight theorie, I and will be reading the books again to make it more concreet. I'm am also on defence for the talking to the dead theorie, for the same reason as you are, but I was also on defence for Xaden being an intinsix. just like Lexie, so yes, Rebecca could have some "Andarna is the exception to rules" thing going on. Good look with acotar!
@imrighturwrongshutup7
@imrighturwrongshutup7 11 ай бұрын
Omg yall have changed our lives so much, I am so glad that we have affected yall's in a good way!! Love you both so much♥ See you in Prythian!!
@Ladele209
@Ladele209 8 ай бұрын
One instance that supports the reflection signet, is when she's on the mat with cat. It would explain cat getting furious to the extent of being ready to die, even though she apparently doesen't care for xaden.
@shawnahumphrey198
@shawnahumphrey198 11 ай бұрын
To take the communication to the dead to another level, what if she is actually a conduit to other worlds? This could tie in all the gravity talk because she needs someone to tether her this world.
@ChelseaQuindt
@ChelseaQuindt 6 ай бұрын
Because Violet’s first signet is more of a “physical” one, I think her second signet will play off of a more intellectual or emotional level.
@dubioc7678
@dubioc7678 11 ай бұрын
Great job ladies ❤🎉 congratulations. I’m reading the ACOTAR series so I can keep up with the podcast lol.. I don’t mind spoilers so I should be fine 😅
@sydneybailey7000
@sydneybailey7000 11 ай бұрын
I was torn on my first read but am now convinced it is the distance weilding - for the reasons mentioned (ie would not be brought up as a unique power if it would not be important.) Rebecca is also the queen of breadcrubbing, violet lighting power and xadens second signet was clued up since the beginning of the series. In literally the first chapter of fourth wing violet mentions how she makes up her strength by being “lighting quick” and now the first half of that is already true - is it possible we have know this whole time? And maybe a stretch for for who violet is at her core but she could be using distance weilding to “find another way” just like she did in the gauntlet challenge
@misfitm1457
@misfitm1457 18 күн бұрын
Seeing the future, Andarna knew when she'd hatch and waited for Violet, she knew Violet would be a rider, she knew when things would be safe for her to go to
@margaridamartins2202
@margaridamartins2202 11 ай бұрын
My money is on distance wielding. Especially as on the final battle in italics it says it’s as if everything slows down to save her friend. She needs to be fast to save her friends. In first part of the book she is separated from xaden and needs to be with him. Also distance wielding would complement lightning in battle. Additionally evidence: 1) andarna saying she will be where violet needs her 2) the way violet describes time 3) how she was able to land to save her friend on the Battle 4) how fast she ran to the ward 5) how fast she made it when she thought xaden had been hurt 6) the centuries 7) the rarity of it 8) the her sleeping next to it and him saying if he was a distance wielder he would sleep on her bed every night- that was too obvious
@julieann19
@julieann19 11 ай бұрын
I am so sad this is ending! But patiently waiting for the next book and to nerd out with you gals again. Gunna be a while until I can watch your podcasts because I haven’t started the ACOTAR books yet, but I’m getting to it 😂
@christolabuschagne4382
@christolabuschagne4382 4 ай бұрын
My money is on Luminary. Fits with sun logo on books, and I believe she takes other signets to the next level, amplifies them. Mira could generate ward on own, Brennan could mend ward stone, Rhiannon could get dagger through wall, Xaden could not just sense intent but project during throne scene. Also fits with her core where she wants to help others.
@1983aw
@1983aw 4 ай бұрын
Are people forgetting that she wields pure power. That’s what Felix tells her, and that it is lighting that she chooses to shape it as. 55:41 remember that Violet is still learning her power with tarin. So most of this videos predictions can be explained by her bond with tarin. 1:04:14 this is how she was able to wield “shadow daddy”. Just saying
@u.v.s.5583
@u.v.s.5583 10 ай бұрын
I really dislike the idea of interpreting her ability to talk to deceased Liam as a signet. It is a well known and very much documented way of coping with torture. It is a non-signet ability and it is a fact of life.
@zhoutaiwarrior
@zhoutaiwarrior 11 ай бұрын
Violet is told during training that her power from tairn manifests as lightning because that's what she is comfortable using as. But it's pure power kinda like the sun. Also in her mind she describes tairns power golden at one point. This pure power signet could fill in soo many options of these 2nd signet. Amplification, light as an opposite to shadows.
@bizbethj
@bizbethj 11 ай бұрын
My top pick for second signet is uno reverse/reflection. I think it definitely manifested during the throne room scene. I like it because it reminds me of feyre's power in acotar. But i don't think we can discount the possibility that violet might have a third signet like ability due to her connection to venin via whatever happened to her mom when she was pregnant.
@sunisthachopra3583
@sunisthachopra3583 5 ай бұрын
I love the uno reverse signet idea really
@katieportz8120
@katieportz8120 4 ай бұрын
Im in support of precognition, right before the battle of basgiath viloet is thinking about her lived ones and who will die and she sees her mothers face in her mind. Additionally there is a big emphasis on knowing the past being able to help predict the future, in her scribe training violet has become very familiar with history as she knows it and is able to know the consequences of events i think this is the perfect blend of scribe and rider
@Raintalon01
@Raintalon01 7 ай бұрын
For the loophole with the serum I would assume they made the serum from all known dragon types
@sophiayjj
@sophiayjj Ай бұрын
I think Xaden knows her second signet. He guessed her first one when he kissed her. And right after the ‘clue’ in the throne scene Xaden says ‘I shouldn’t have done that’ and he’s not referring to what he was doing with violet, as he explains his actions being due to Cat. He knew her first signet when they were intimate. Maybe he also knows her second? And maybe, with that line, he doesn’t want her to manifest it. Why else shouldn’t he have done that?? Im so hung up on that line! If that’s the case, my mind is spiralling as to why wouldn’t he want her to manifest it.
@cariborchert
@cariborchert 3 ай бұрын
there is so much pointing to the idea of a luminary signet - in addition to her line of feeling the power AND LIGHT coursing through her, she was literally needed to get the physical luminary from Cordon and it could have manifested in that moment to reflect Mira's signet with the ward... the luminary is also very much like Andarna reflecting what's around her or reflecting Tairn or "being where she is needed" and while it is similar to Tairn's, Andarna wants to be like Tairn - so that makes sense. This could be huge in book three as she could be a luminary to Nolan's signet to heal Xaden - giving poetic justice to the fact that Xaden wants to kill Nolan for what he did to Violet, then they need to use him to heal Xaden. While it doesn't tie into her scribe mind - I think her scribe mind is just a separate piece of who she is that is independent of her rider powers and is just her intelligence - still very much needed and part of who she is, but independent of all dragon-rider power. Also, I think Aeric will be a distance wielder and that's the significance of him saying he never saw Violet move that fast. And I think gravity is important only in the relationship of Xaden and Violet and him being the balance of her power, but not manifesting in a signet.
@SaraGooch
@SaraGooch 22 күн бұрын
I had not thought about the light theory but one thing that I want to point out is that I *do* think it speaks to Violet as a scribe. Think about how much she wants full disclosure - wouldn’t she want that full disclosure for everyone, giving them the information they need to survive? The Archives are underground right now - it is all about protecting the documents themselves, but that also means the information the documents contain are hidden when it should be shared with all. Violet is always willing to share her information - even making Tairn share her memories with the other dragons as proof…shedding “light” on the matters at hand…even when it goes against everything he believes in to share those outside a mating bond. Violet being the light shed on this hidden information that the scribes from one single generation hid away and wiped out of the history when that goes *against* everything a scribe should stand for would fit in perfectly with who Violet is as a scribe and the mind of a *true* scribe.
@AyameKiri
@AyameKiri 11 ай бұрын
Congratulation too the both of you!
@ginetterodriguez1342
@ginetterodriguez1342 10 ай бұрын
My theory is tied to the communication with the dead but expanded. In multiple instances in the book she will have a thought and people will act as if she said the thought out loud. She will then say I didn’t realize I said that out loud. It’s because she hasn’t actual said the words but was able to communicate with people without speaking. This would extend to all people, both dead and alive, hence the Liam conversation. This would tie perfectly with her scribe brain because it would allow her to pull information from a primary source, like she did with the diary, but in a much more impactful way. Heart of a rider (power from the sky) and mind of a scribe (pull information from people). While the sun signet is my second favorite, I can see her signet with tairn expanding so we should have power over both the sun and thunder (all things in the sky) similar to her mother. They mention she has the power but is most comfortable putting it into the form of thunder but maybe she can begin to change the form of that and shift it to the sun as well. Anyways, I think both theories are great and I’d like if RY incorporated them both!
@Yoonjinju
@Yoonjinju 9 ай бұрын
I feel 💯 percent certain that Cam is going to be a distance wielder
@JB-mw7zt
@JB-mw7zt 8 ай бұрын
I need to go back & reread- I have 2 theories for second signet. It seems like it would be mental in a way that complements X. Just like she wields light when he wields dark. 1. Time wielder - andarna can stop time, but maybe vi can bend it or mentally go through it 2. Mind wielding - switching pov - this embodies some of the dreamwalking, talking etc. Alt opinion- are X & Vi part dragon? I don’t see tairn knowingly bonding a half venin when it seems like Naolin went the way of the venin. One more thing- I still think her dreams may actually be Naolins dreams. This plays into my theory #1 with the mental time travel.
@alisesampson2716
@alisesampson2716 7 ай бұрын
Have you read Powerless yet? The Uno Reverse signet talk reminds me of Kai’s Wielder power where he can take on/mimic anyone’s power within a certain proximity.
@jedininja4209
@jedininja4209 Ай бұрын
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@sarahharmsa0126
@sarahharmsa0126 20 күн бұрын
A lot of these were super convincing! But I think it’s going to be a more “mind work” one as opposed to a more power/physical signet. Xaden has a power based signet and a mind based signet and I think Violet will be the same. Nature likes balance, right? I think it’s the way to see through someone else’s perspective-an inntinsic vibe but not quite. She see through Andarna’s eyes to see her dragon relic, she sees through Xaden’s eyes/mind in the throne scene and she sees through Tairn’s eyes during the final battle. Maybe even then dreams of the Sage are actually Xaden’s dreams, not her own…. Okay, well I was all in on that theory until you explained the Luminary. I think Tairn has a line about carrying a luminary too!
@ingrid6926
@ingrid6926 11 ай бұрын
I don’t think the serum works/works the same way on Andarna bc she’s the only one in her den. I’m assuming that’s why they kept asking to see her to possibly get something from her they need to make the serum effective against her when they still thought she was still golden.
@Sgtpatricia
@Sgtpatricia 10 ай бұрын
I feel like Xaden and Violet are opposites, their first signets are shadows and “light” in the form of lightning, then second signet of intention reading which represents secrets and information, I think truthsaying is a good opposite of that signet. Some of these signet ideas are too “convenient” plot devices, in trouble? Uno reverse what you need. In a bind? Distance wield to safety. It cheapens the story and the trials the story cast have to go thru
@lexibscraftsnthings6718
@lexibscraftsnthings6718 5 ай бұрын
So you guys said her signet would be rare and I totally agree. I also think that a lot of the friends and family she surrounds herself with also have rather uncommon ones and maybe at more powerful levels than is usual. I don't know that Violence is amplifying so much but that they just have them.
@HannahJamieson
@HannahJamieson 2 ай бұрын
Rereading now and I'm stuck on when Felix said “you wielded him” in that chapter going over how she wields power. What if she can make someone do things. She wanted the truth and then xadan answers, she wants her friends to not be angry about secrets they aren't, she needs dian to believe her and save her and he does. She stole half of basgiath by sheer willpower. I think she wields people and their choices
@KalliTidwell
@KalliTidwell 11 ай бұрын
I’m so freaking proud of you guys 🥹🥹😭😭❤️❤️🎉🎉 I’m so, so thankful for you both putting his much hard work into this amazing podcast, you have brought together an incredible community!!
@Janice-hc5ri
@Janice-hc5ri 4 ай бұрын
Varrish gets Dain to read Violet's thoughts, but when he tries to read them, Violet "needs " Dain to see the truth, the throne room she wishes Xaden could see what she does, when she needs to see Xaden and she does through Tairn's eyes. Hmm!
@posier512
@posier512 3 ай бұрын
This is late but with the sun signet, if you look at the onyx storm cover, it has a light side and a dark side, maybe something with her and Xaden.
@SinisterSquire
@SinisterSquire 2 ай бұрын
Thinking of the Legends of Kora show, she can wield all 4 elements but only is able to gain control over the 4th once her ability of the other 3 has been taken away from her. With that in mind, what if The Massive amount of Tarm power overshadows the power from Endarna? This would have to link up to the Forrest chapter where they were given the 2 different maps, and once again under the suppression of the liquid. Comparing this with the interrogation chapter, would link this theory. I don’t think Violets second signet would have anything to do with healing because of her siblings. One can mend to heal, the second can create their own wards to protect, and the third can wield power to fight. I would say that’s the trifecta of balance and as quoted, nature makes everything in balance.
@aarisharora4977
@aarisharora4977 10 ай бұрын
With the rune signet theory it could kind of be like Clary from Mortal Instruments where Violet can create new runes and the runes she makes that already exist are more powerful (which would tie in to how it appears on page when they’re making the runes) and also Xaden may have had an inkling of this as he gives her the book to help her with runes, like sure it could just be him wanting her to do better but I have a feeling he almost knew or at least had a feeling
@lamelaxity
@lamelaxity 11 ай бұрын
What she NEEDS is to be fast! Poor girl is running constantly because she is terrified she won't be fast enough. So, distance wielding, for sure.
@listenwithprecious
@listenwithprecious 11 ай бұрын
💡 what if violet gets a 2nd signet and andarna gets a new power (still a hatchling can pass to violet) 3rd signet?! Posted this thought on my bookstagram 😇 Time stamps?
@debbieturk9241
@debbieturk9241 2 ай бұрын
@fantasyfangirlspod I have always thought Violet's signet *might* be to verbally compell people with whatever she *needs* ... the truth, to listen to her, to talk to her, and to stay alive no matter what ... and they almost *have* to do it.👀 It would explain how she 'heard' Xaden in the throne scene, ordered her Mum & the General to listen to her for once about the ward stone, she 'told' Codaugh to speak to her & he didn't roast her alive, and she also ordered her crew and Xaden to live *no matter what*!😮 She's also been accused of 'wielding Xaden', this could explain how.🤷🏻‍♀️ I haven't seen anyone mention this, but I'm not about on social media a lot.🤔 Thoughts?
@Court5991friends
@Court5991friends 5 ай бұрын
I don’t have the physically books and you said there are no italics when she speaks to Sawyers dragon. But in the Dramatized version. When she speaks to his dragon. It’s echoed like it ALWAYS does when she speaks mind to mind. And would make sence if signets manifest in a time of great stress or need. She actively can’t state out loud what she wants to do because of the battle and not wanting to give away their next moves. And also Sawyer is family is in her squad. Of course she is wanting to save him. Speaking to dragons for me don’t be anti-climactic because she NEEDS information and control. If she can be the bridge between the humans and Dragons. Thats kinda cool to me. But 🤷🏼‍♀️. I’m just a first time reader lol
@tiggy2514
@tiggy2514 11 ай бұрын
Violence already has the ultimate signet bc she has pure power. When Vi is training to learn control he tells her she has pure power she just chooses the form lightening bc she is comfortable with that. She literally has the means to shape her power however she wants. Think Dorian from ToG.
@emilierosebauer
@emilierosebauer 5 ай бұрын
Omg Dorian he still needs his own book ! .. I thought of TOG a lot when reading this
@ljc5647
@ljc5647 3 ай бұрын
As for the talking to the dead signet theory, what if the serum was only engineered for the typical dragon rider, given they have 1 dragon. Given violet has 2 dragons, is it possible the serum was not strong enough to block andarna, therefore giving some potential merit to the theory.
@seanperson2032
@seanperson2032 4 ай бұрын
I really think shes some kind of dream walker. At the end of iron flame, we see the reoccurring nightmare violet has been having but through xaden's eyes, where he admits hes had this nightmare over and over. I think Violet was seeing xaden's dreams.
@gracendungu4194
@gracendungu4194 3 күн бұрын
Damn! Were you on point.
@im__obsessed
@im__obsessed 6 ай бұрын
So far I'm thinking distance wielder. My second guess is truth Sayer. But this is why I'm thinking distance wielder: 1. Ever since the First Book, Violet is always described as being weak, but fast. She's got speed on her side. She also is mentally fast; always catching on to concepts faster than others. So, I think this would represent her as a person. 2. She NEEDS to be faster. She has said it multiple times in the book. The signet not only represents who they are, but what they need. 3. Andarna says in IF that her and Violet want the same things. This could be a hint being that Andarna always wants to fly but can't (which is distance related). Andarna also had a gift that had her slow down time, which allowed her to go faster, so I think Violets would be similar to that because her and Andarna are similar. 4) Violet says in IF: I've only read about two riders in all of history who could cross hundreds of miles in a single step. There hasn't been a distance wielder in centuries. I think this is foreshadowing. And since Violrt is so rare and Andarna, I think it would be fitting for the second signet to be rare. 5) Aaric comments during the battle: “damn, sorrengail, I don't think I've ever seen you run that fast!” aaric lifts his brows. Aaric seems genuinely surprised and shocked here. In the first book, when andarna stopped time. Violet was asked how she had got somewhere so quickly. I think this situation is like that one. This might be reaching, but I also think it would be interesting that because Violet is so powerful and Andarna is so rare, that this signet expands and Violet learns that she isn't just able to cross any physical distance but she cross distances in TIME as well. Maybe if she hones in her skill, she can undo Xayden becoming Venin or she could learn from Warrwick or someone from the past how to cure being venin.
@rejeanborgonia5917
@rejeanborgonia5917 10 ай бұрын
so hard to decide what her second signet is going to be! i'm just thinking that it has to tie up with how she un-venins Xaden which is most likely information she needs to retrieve from the past because the venin were defeated centuries ago. which is why i am banking on communicating with the dead or some sort of time travel or seeing things in the past. it would be dope to finally find out what it is but tbh if it doesnt contribute much to Xaden getting un-venined, then nvm! 😂
@TVDfan890
@TVDfan890 6 ай бұрын
My theory is she will be able to turn time, that the nightmares she has of xaden turning earlier in iron flame is he having jumped into the future by accident, that she’ll be able to turn back time and do things differently to save him
@Yoonjinju
@Yoonjinju 9 ай бұрын
I would only be for the communication with the dead signet if it is more broadly about speaking to souls. That way she might have some advantage in bringing back Xadens soul
@lisaackerman5904
@lisaackerman5904 11 ай бұрын
I think her 2nd signet is something to do with the cold (but not ice welding) bc she has a need not to burn out. And it keeps bringing up that she can't use to much of her lightning without always being close to burn out.
@groofallin
@groofallin 11 ай бұрын
I think she has some ability to see through other peoples eyes. She does it in the throne scene, and at the end when her mother is about to use Sloane on the wardstone. She goes into Tairns eyes, then Xaden, then it’s Sgaeyl. Maybe a bond thing, but I’m not certain
@eglaite01
@eglaite01 10 ай бұрын
Her 2nd signet has to be the one that's never been seen before because it relates to Andarna - 7th breed of dragons that no one has seen since the unification of Navare - and only since then dragons started bonding riders so no one in history has ever bonded this breed of dragons which is why I'm leaning to either communication with the dead or the ability to see the world from other people's perspective and potentially control their powers (like she saw the world through Xaden's eyes in the venin battle and during the chair scene she could 'feel his power' )
@emilymccormick6076
@emilymccormick6076 4 ай бұрын
Commanding a soul... Xaden has found it hard to lie to her. She reaches for her comfort and greatest protectors. She commands the venin to stop. She says you will not did today to Sawyer.
@CindyDozier-m1i
@CindyDozier-m1i 5 ай бұрын
Love you guys! Extra edit: she’s a truth sayer, because she absolutely needs it! Possibly an intensic truth sayer?!?! Edit! She’s a Light Wielder! Balancing Xaden’s Shadow Wielding! And obviously that comes with some serious bad-assery side effects! Ok! I think Violet is an Adapt, we know she’s a “fast learner”, confirmed not only from her own mother, but literally everyone in the series that it takes her no time to figure it out learn things compared to others in both the physical and the mental/spiritual realms. Like Andarna, she Will Be where/what she needs to be! Even if she’s never done it before! She’s a flipping 5D Chameleon Being! Orrr she’s a Living Rune! each of her bonds are building the layered shapes of it, meant to reorient the balance life and power throughout the continent. ❤🤓
@misfitm1457
@misfitm1457 18 күн бұрын
She can't weild light, only lightning
@emilierosebauer
@emilierosebauer 5 ай бұрын
Omg girls you so have to read Sara J Mass Throne of glass serious and your mind would be exploding on the similarity and where this could go !
@lexibscraftsnthings6718
@lexibscraftsnthings6718 5 ай бұрын
We all the resurrection theory is because we want to keep Liam. Sadly I don't think that's it but it'd be awesome to keep him in the series in some capacity
@chancebaker6042
@chancebaker6042 11 ай бұрын
Stumbled upon this podcast and read both books. If your looking for more high fantasy and real fantasy than romance book. You like Dragons love to see you read the Bound and Broken books and novellas series. The guy is self publishing and self edits everything. The first book is a little trope kind of building world then it gets so good! How DID you not talk about how Violet says anytime she talks that literally everything has to go in a box. I don't know what kind of signet comes out of a box but I have only seen 1 other guy mention it. It seems like a new writer who isn't paying attention to how much she says it or she is a bad writer or she is implying but she gets Violet to say it like every second sentence. She always has to put things in a metal box
@itskatieee3
@itskatieee3 11 ай бұрын
And what if the serum doesn’t work on Andarnas power because she’s a new breed of dragon. They made the serum for all the breeds of dragons that they know. No one knows Andarna is a new breed
@katiekat035
@katiekat035 Ай бұрын
But even the venin say that she’s only using part of her power. So how do we not know that the lightning is not part of the sun theory signit and she talking to the dead is the second signit?
@evaadams5078
@evaadams5078 3 ай бұрын
Violet has bonded with 2 dragons where everyone else has only ever bonded to 1 dragon. My theory is that she will have more Signets than 2.
@morganleigh8895
@morganleigh8895 10 ай бұрын
I felt the communication with the dead also wraps up the series too quickly because she could talk to the past riders who rid the venin in the past. I think it's definitely something to do luminary! it would ties things up nicely with amplifying andarna's flame to kill venin.
@annaschooley9189
@annaschooley9189 10 ай бұрын
I have a question, why would Xaden not be teathered to Segail anymore?
@aarisharora4977
@aarisharora4977 10 ай бұрын
He’s still bonded to her but since he’s venin now he doesn’t need her necessarily for his powers as he can just take them from the ground/Earth. He may also just not be bonded anymore as Sgyeal was quiet after he turned Venin but that’s a whole different rabbit hole.
@jiyellhill8725
@jiyellhill8725 11 ай бұрын
Crackhead rabbit hole. In my delusional head, Garrick's signet is perfect memory and Imogen's signet manifested so that she can protect him because she cares for him so much. It's cool enough of a signet, I could understand why that wouldn't have naturally showed up on our pages yet, and it isn't too nutty that it would have put him in the cool kids trying to raise the Aretia wards group.
@PenelopeReneOlsen
@PenelopeReneOlsen 24 күн бұрын
What if Cam, the prince, has distance wielding? He has the need to be different, and has yet to develop a signet.
@10shaybear
@10shaybear 5 ай бұрын
I feel like we are all thinking her second signet is going to come from andarna who as far as we know isn’t fully grown yet. Who is to say she can release the power for Violet to wield a second signet from her yet.
@madonnadailo3604
@madonnadailo3604 11 ай бұрын
I don’t think the book cover is the sun - isn’t it the wardstone? And I will miss this podcast for iron flame 😢.
@julianaaraujo7928
@julianaaraujo7928 11 ай бұрын
The reason I think the scene of Violet and Xaden sleeping was a mistake by the editor is because when they go on these missions they shouldn't stay in rooms, they probably sleep in the open air, so wouldn't anyone have seen Violet there? And Xaden on these missions should have been on alert at all times and he didn't feel someone appearing next to him and laying on his chest?
@jaybeauty7
@jaybeauty7 11 ай бұрын
What if the serum is made from stuff from the 6 types of dragons and it doesn't work for andrna
@dawnfrizzel8599
@dawnfrizzel8599 2 ай бұрын
Can either of you tell me why violet had to translate what ridoc said to jesinia?? Why wouldn’t she understand what he said ?? I get her translating the “signing” speak the scribes do but not the other way around??
@misfitm1457
@misfitm1457 18 күн бұрын
She's likely deaf, going on the fact this is a book full of diversity with a lesbian couple, people of colour, Violet having EDS and a non binary character ... so therefore they'd have to sign to her
@dawnfrizzel8599
@dawnfrizzel8599 18 күн бұрын
@ yeah I found out later on she was dead I don’t know why I didn’t get it at first but thanks I know it is that now
@rarakess
@rarakess 11 ай бұрын
The problem with things that aren’t burned is that means every scribe that rewrote a book has something that isn’t burned a letter is just small pieces of a book
@Alxndrathegreatx
@Alxndrathegreatx 15 күн бұрын
Can Brennan heal the earth?
@tayreads5790
@tayreads5790 11 ай бұрын
If she does reflect or amplify signets and it drains the person she reflects/amplifies would be another connection between her and venin
@Quinlaee
@Quinlaee 11 ай бұрын
Xaden said he would never turn into venin BUT violet ordered him to "LIVE" So could that have explained why he took magic instead of just fighting until the end..? o.O because he couldnt die even if he would rather have it that way...
@ratherbewrenching6114
@ratherbewrenching6114 6 ай бұрын
What if Andarna isn't a dragon? "The six and the one." Indicating six dragons and one something else. Food for thought...
@kathynguyen5760
@kathynguyen5760 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if violet's second signet is that people cannot lie to her. She needs the truth and I think Xaden said he can't lie to her but gets away with selective truths.
@junglejulia7460
@junglejulia7460 10 ай бұрын
"That is stupid!!" Lol
@naomilinderman898
@naomilinderman898 7 ай бұрын
Cam/Aaric will be the distance wielder. That will allow him to be king and warrior
@AyaAya-et7mp
@AyaAya-et7mp 10 ай бұрын
guys the talking to the deaths theory is basically nonsense rebecca said in a itv that we shall keep in mind that she was under the serum's influence during the liam scene so she wasn't able to reach any magic
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