What Jesus Means to Muslims | Dr. Shabir Ally

[@mtdteedee2856]

Excellent elaboration on such a sensitive issue

[@AmeliaAlHayek]

Jesus Christ said - For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. Sadly, so many people reject the will of God.

[@stefkukla8533]

An interesting thing that many Christians rarely ever consider is that by the early 4th century, the alleged "divinity" of Jesus STILL hadn't been determined by consensus of the many early churches, and the topic of whether or not he was the ACTUAL son of God (or even the human incarnation of God) was hotly debated in these councils. I believe it was also in these councils also that the baffling concept of a Holy Trinity was first floated. As someone who was raised as a Roman Catholic, I was quite stunned by the seeming ignorance of many of my fellow Christians about their church's origins. From watching the 1970s movie "Al-Risālah" I remember the recitation of Sūrah 19 to the Abyssinian king, in an appeal for asylum.

[@innocentodinkemere4597]

While you were growing up a Roman Catholic, did you actually read the Bible? From the last count, the NT was canonized by AD 200, and as early as AD 100 the Epistles were widely read. So the sonship and divinity of Jesus is actually in the Bible.

[@DheerajNavin-ln5wn]

Dr Shabir carefully explaimed his belief on Jesus according to Islamic tradition. Merry Christmas to you and your family!

[@candicecole19]

“Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers.” ~ • ~ (Quran 7:23) 🤍

[@sikeajax]

Apparently in Islam, Jesus was unable to choose any disciples who could teach and preserve any truth for 600 years until the prophet of Mecca

[@cocoalfaridah5831]

Actually, the truth is: According to Islamic docrine, Jesus failed in his mission so Muhammad can to fulfill it, and over take and avenge Allah cause and replace jesus and fix is teaching… The Quran came to correct the Bible and Torah..,…., That is the ego- motivation of Islam!

[@sikeajax]

@@cocoalfaridah5831 their ego has to replace Israel’s temple with their own and has to fight a regathered Israel and always loses as the Bible predicts will happen by almost every prophet… yet they keep trying 🤪

[@cocoalfaridah5831]

@@sikeajax yes Muslim never loose even when they loose, they win 🥇 alway..😢😀🇮🇱 is wining.. I saw turkey’s law maker collapsed just after cursing israel…, Yesterday! Allah work in misterious way..🥲🔌⚔️

[@stylicho]

Are you insinuating that the same occurred with Moses?

[@sikeajax]

@@stylicho Moses didn’t have disciples. What Moses wrote was preserved by Joshua. Jesus has 12 disciples and many followers and none of them seemed to be able to preserve what Jesus taught accurately until 600 years later according to the claim of one person, Mohammad who didn’t know he would die by the poison of a Jew.

[@mohamedomar6847]

Beautiful video ever - Mohamed Omar El-Shabiby

[@hevanderdacosta3211]

Jesus is the only one who sits with god and his mother is the most blessed woman in history. Then it's his example that I want to follow to get into Jennah.

[@AlJihadiJesus]

What does Dr. Shabir think about second coming of Issa(as) in Islam

[@CHERUBIM517]

THANKS AGAIN PEACE ONE TRIBE

[@sandralazarus7338]

That was nice to hear, that my Muslim friends respect , my Lord and Master, Jesus Christ. Thank you.

[@charlesmuhmanson3928]

Don't be fooled. It is lip service. He denies the deity of Jesus.

[@criticalthinker1123]

*just worship the god that jesus himself worshipped*

[@charlesmuhmanson3928]

@@criticalthinker1123There is only one God. As an incarnate man, Jesus worshiped God and communicated to this Father.

[@criticalthinker1123]

@@charlesmuhmanson3928 an incarnate means god was inside him, so how he worshipped external entity?

[@charlesmuhmanson3928]

@@criticalthinker1123 Incarnate does not mean that. God is not contained or constrained in any way. Muslims are forced to distort to deny the deity of Christ.

[@ImranKhan-xz5yp]

Peace and blessing of God be upon Jesus and his great mother maryyam ( s) who presented such a character to the pillar of God's mercy

[@Bean-qt4dy]

Whatever Jesus means to Muslims is not something Christians are supportive of. With all due respect I love good people. But the Jesus in Islam is not truthful. I'm happy that Muslim s love Jesus but my hope is such greater. I truly understand how a person taught a certain way is influenced by its upbringing

[@hameedkatoor7469]

Masha Allah good video

[@Pacmon0]

Only one God. Jesus is the Messiah, a prophet with a special message, the greatest of the prophets, but not God. Trinity was an attempt to make what was Judiasm appealing to the Romans. Hence the statues.

[@CenterPorchNP]

Your Prophet came hundreds of years after those who walked with Jesus, before and after death. The last Apostle to die wrote definitively that Jesus was God who came to be flesh. That is Jesus.

[@ibraheemanjum7753]

No

[@kamiingtv]

If I follow your logic you can make the same claim about Jesus PBU with Abraham or Moses coming more than 1000 years before him !!

[@GoHawks-v6d]

Wonderful to hear ‘Muslims love & revere Jesus’ Someone forgot to tell the crowd chanting ‘burn it down’ at the Christmas tree a few weeks ago.

[@Suhelahmed_1729]

0:25 this claim comes from a hadith and it is a weak hadith.

[@criticalthinker1123]

*even if it's weak, there's averse in the Quran that confirms what he said. ie, for every nation, God sent a prophet, and in another verse, God says, some prophet stories being narrated to you, and some were not*

[@kronosse]

Mathew 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you, I am with you always, to the CLOSE OF AGE. (name as plural, also would a phophet claim to be with his disciples to the time of judgment)? John 8:23 You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I AM NOT OF THIS WORLD. (If Jesus was just a prophet why would he say this?} John 8:59-59 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple. (The statement speaks for itself, the Jews knew exactly what he was claiming (that he was GOD and tried to stone him). Revelations 1:17-18 17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I AM THE FIRST AND THE LAST. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades. Surah 57:3 He is the FIRST (nothing is before Him) AND THE LAST (nothing is after Him), the Most High (nothing is above Him) and the Most Near (nothing is nearer than Him). And He is the All-Knower of every thing. Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I AM THE FIRST AND THE LAST; and beside me there is no God. (Why would Jesus claim also to be the first and the last?)

[@emadstarns291]

Jesus is the only messenger that’s still alive today in heaven he will be coming to earth I wish I would be there when he’s on earth nobody knows how long or when he will be on 🌍

[@armandemsha1976]

I would like to add some more attributes of Isa or Jesus. When he came to Beni Israel the Israelites believed in GOD but there believe was more mechanical than spiritual Their approach to GOD was hypocritical. His teaching was spiritual to connect to GOD. By understanding why GOD made us why he is generous and merciful to us. Even today many Muslims make the same mistakes like the Jews did and do.

[@Bean-qt4dy]

Jesus will cone again in glory and raise the living and dead and his kingdom will reign

[@Bean-qt4dy]

JOHN 14:6 explains it All

[@stylicho]

I think the prominence of Jesus in Islam is easily expressed by the expectation of His return. As far as my understanding they don't expect any other Prophet to return except Him

[@Bean-qt4dy]

I wish Muslims would read the Bible and understand who Jesus truly is

[@cocoalfaridah5831]

Why don’t you learn Quran to understand the God of Islam?

[@siddave549]

But why should anyone read the quran about Jesus? He is just a copy pasted character. Why should a book written 600 years later in Arabia get anything right about a man who lived in a different country and in a different language @@cocoalfaridah5831

[@savannahsymabatt]

you worship man, we worship god big difference, get a life

[@Toosanow]

​@@cocoalfaridah5831 excellent answer ❤

[@semiot8305]

“He (Muhammad) could have conceiled this (Jesus’ miracles). He did not have to praise Jesus to this extent”. Did Muhammad write the Quran?

[@DrAzeemnephrologist]

Jesus ,Moses all were muslimeen They all submitted to Allah

[@markdoughty8780]

You simply cannot be a Muslim if you do not believe in The Messiah Jesus Christ. Great explanation on the subject by Dr. Shabir Ally - thanks for uploading.

[@Bean-qt4dy]

Dr Ally is nice My medical Dr. name is Dr. Ali I like those surnames but understanding the truth as John 14:6 states is important for mankind

[@eliasberhane5593]

How can a prophet be sinless????? And called word and spirit of Allah???????

[@Bean-qt4dy]

one of My favorite things Christ said, "Im not of this world....... I conquered this world Of course Muslim don't believe understand or know this And these are reasons why Christians are so revered by Muslims.

[@tomtaylor6163]

Aren’t all the Prophets buried at Mecca?

[@Bean-qt4dy]

Mecca? What? Buried? Jesus is the risen God

[@TheEducatedTrucker]

You know nothing about Islam apparently. I bet you don’t even know anything about Christianity yet you claim to be one

[@nomadnemesis]

I'm Muslim. I'm a veteran of Russian-Ukraine war. I fought for Ukraine since the shaytans mortar fired my house in 2014. I'm here to say that before the war in Ukraine and after that - but my heart was always crying for Palestine. I wish I could join the army of Islam to fight for Palestine. I don't want to fight for Ukraine anymore because the government is all about to make another Jewish government and make people of Ukraine to live under the apartheid... Please, if any of you, show me the way to join the fight against the disbelievers. I'm here, in Ukraine, the boarders closed. I want to fight for Palestine Freedom. Allah Akbar

[@reginaleite8327]

Apologies for my ignorance 🙏 this is the first time I heard about Jesus being important at Muslim people....🙏

[@Bean-qt4dy]

Don't be deceived. Jesus is in second place in Islam

[@stylicho]

Just read the Quran and don't listen to fools on the internet

[@stylicho]

Specifically Surah 3 I believe it is

[@seanc2788]

I'm confused. If Jesus is so prominent in the Quran, why are his people hated so much? Last time I checked "from the river to the sea" also means wiping out Jesus (along with all the other Jews). Something doesn't add up here. He can't be a prophet but you also want to wipe out his lineage. There is something seriously wrong with the connection.

[@Bean-qt4dy]

First off don't confuse terrorists with Muslims. I hope you have Muslim friends in America as I do. I'm a Christian and will explain it to you. Extremists are violent people. Yes its religion based but also hatred in breed comes from anger and pain. Christians are idol worshipers according to Islam. The Book of Mohammed says its Ok to kill disbelieve rs. Thinking Jesus is more than just a prophet is sacrilegious. Islam doesn't believe Christ died on cross Not the forgive r of sin or son of man or god

[@cocoalfaridah5831]

@@Bean-qt4dywell, Muslim who follow their scripture are not allow to be friends or allies with Christianit. Quran 5:51) Is clear

[@aleksmuinao2783]

What else,Jesus is the spirit of God......mention even in the quran....

[@sultanbin2170]

Quran Chapter 4, verse 171 [sultan-bin translation]: O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His term [of repeating creation of Adam, Quran 30:11, 10:34, 85:13 through female-male-female gender alteration]; He conveyed it [His term] to Mary [by angels Quran 3:42,45] and [by] a spirit from Him [Quran 19:17-21, messenger Gabriel]. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.

[@uyiosadanielmuhammaduyi8089]

THE ONLY TRUE WAY TO SUMMIT TO ALMIGHTY ALLAH IS JESUS (YESHUA ⚡👁️😶‍🌫️🗣️🔥

[@gauchetvanantwerpen147]

The God that Jesus, preached about was about love and forgiveness. The God that Mohammad preached about is about submission. The Jesus that we as Christians believe in, died for our sins on a cross, Mohammed did just the reverse, a sword. The God that we Christians believe in (Father-Creator, Son-Salvation and Holy Spirit-Moral conscience) is the God in who's image we were created in. The God of Isreal refers to Himself as "I AM that I AM". The God of Mohammad is the Prince of Persia, for which the first battle was lost during the days of Daniel, when Isreal was taken into slavery. Jesus Warrior

[@Babasayee]

Jahad is fighting with your navigate each other's tested give take honest humble

[@hansiecalitz7070]

Our Jesus is not a muslim jesus and also not a prophet He rose from the dead If you do not see Him as the savior of this world then the Father also do not recognize you

[@brendonalexsandro]

and what does this have to do with the video?

[@Babasayee]

Creations of justice ⚖️ Lord God Allah called with him beautiful name's and call each other's with beautiful name's after God give everyone beautiful name so don't call them fighting 🙏

[@Babasayee]

As Adam as well with out mum's Dad

[@fernandolalantha6141]

You are mocking the allmighty GOd saying he is messenger,

[@peterhwang352]

What if we took Muhammad and turned him into a champion of LGBTQ rights and secular democracies and then said that we love him even more than Muslims, who wrongly attribute to him so many nasty words and acts.

[@cocoalfaridah5831]

Jesus came and failed his mission, loose his book, prophet Muhammad came to replace him and correct the Bible flaws.,

[@peterhwang352]

​@@cocoalfaridah5831That's just the corrupted version of Muhammad, invented centuries later by the Abbasids.

[@cocoalfaridah5831]

@@peterhwang352 that Muhammad is in fact., Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan The fight caliphate writter of Quran and builder of asqa mosque.. on Salomon site..,

[@doneracer5994]

@@cocoalfaridah5831 There must have been an original Bible with *no* flaws for you to say there are now Bible flaws. *So where are any pieces of the original Bible which show what the original said and which you can compare the original with the flawed Bible?* I know that the earliest manuscript of the New Testament is from the Gospel of John, from around 150 AD and we have complete copies of the entire New Testament from around 200 AD. They read the same as the New Testament we have today.

[@cocoalfaridah5831]

@@doneracer5994 bring that original Bible to the light. The one makin claim is the one to prove it, bring it to the light. For us.,

[@criticalthinker1123]

*because christians worship a man of jews background, a so basically their god is a jew man, and therefore some of them feel obligate to defend the jews even if they commit atrocities since they are the relative of their god* *that's the problem when you worship human being, you are messed up and become slaves for humans. Islam frees people of being slaves to other creations* *"The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded."* Quran 5;75

[@jrutt2675]

Well Jesus was a pure ethnic Israelite from the tribe of Judah. Remember the Israelites were exiled and only a small remnant returned. This allowed for the other seed to occupy the land. This is very important when understanding what is going on at the time of Christ first Advent. Christians do not realize their own identity. You are right this has allowed them to be slaves to humans of Edom/ Cannanites.

[@solascriptura1536]

For a critical thinker you are truly empty minded. Christians don't worship a man who became God, they worship God who became man. If you truly don't worship Muhammad, can you recite the shahada and tashahhud without the name of Muhammad and call yourself a Muslim?

[@criticalthinker1123]

@@solascriptura1536 *if god became a man then how come this man-god worshipped external God?* *How come this man god when someone came to ask him about the most important commandments he replied the the Lord our God is One. Which god says our Lord if he himself God?* We don't only acknowledge Muhammad is the only prophet but many messengers before him, if Muslim deny the prophet good of any prophet he's not Muslim. *Also you cannot deny your god is a Jew man*

[@solascriptura1536]

@@criticalthinker1123 Because he came to teach, to show us the way, not to be served. He will say OUR LORD to teach us to say that. You still have not answered the question: Can you recite the shahada and tashahhud WITHOUT the name of Muhammad and then call yourself a Muslim???

[@solascriptura1536]

@@criticalthinker1123 When a man teaches his child to properly ask for food from his mother, he will say...Mommy, can I have some food?...does that mean his wife has now become his mother?

[@WesleyGathage]

The real Yeshua is the one who came to earth and got wounded for our transgressions. He forgives sin and gives eternal life to all who seek Him. He is everlasting and reigns forever over the heavens and the earth. He is EGO EIMI/YHWH/ I AM.

[@zukied4817]

The way Islam revere Jesus is not the right and correct one, in that the Bible says Jesus is God in John 1, and He is the one that created all things, and without Him, nothing was created. God according to the bible is not like a man, but a Spirit, that had a word, which word became flesh through Mary.

[@chrischris3922]

lol 😆 it’s just a book copied by the bible but 600 years after the bible 😆 they just trying to make it look a little different

[@solascriptura1536]

Jesus means nothing to Muslims because Muslims believe in Isa, not Yasue. Yasue called himself the son of the Most High, Muslims reject this. Shabir is trying to create an Islam that is tolerant of Christians and that cannot be because it goes against the teachings of Muhammad.

[@tanveerkhalili5268]

Same thing. Don't over complicate it

[@solascriptura1536]

@@tanveerkhalili5268 Does ISA call himself the Son of God?

[@Liush12468]

So you dont believe in the most high? If yes you are muslim If you dont believe in him call yourself christ and pray to jesus and he will never know you

[@solascriptura1536]

@@Liush12468 I believe in the Most High. His name, however, is YHWH, not Allah. Although YHWH uses the title ALLAH, his NAME is YHWH. What is the name of the Allah of the Quran?

[@Liush12468]

@@solascriptura1536 in Quran The God is saying; “Indeed, We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], as We revealed to Noah and the prophets after him. And we revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the Descendants, Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the book [of Psalms].(163) And [We sent] messengers about whom We have related [their stories] to you before and messengers about whom We have not related to you. And Allah spoke to Moses with [direct] speech.(164) [We sent] messengers as bringers of good tidings and warners so that mankind will have no argument against Allah after the messengers. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise. (165) But Allah bears witness to that which He has revealed to you. He has sent it down with His knowledge, and the angels bear witness [as well]. And sufficient is Allah as Witness. (166)” Allah has the Most Beautiful Names. So call upon Him by them, and keep away from those who abuse His Names.1 They will be punished for what they used to do.

[@tapiwachasumba4992]

😢At least shabir heard news of Turkey's Member of Parliament

[@charlesmuhmanson3928]

Jesus is Lord. He is my savior. He can be muslim's savior, too.

[@ozkara4581]

If Jesus is lord how was he killed by humans.

[@Tip9z_]

May Allah guide u. There’s good in you.

[@charlesmuhmanson3928]

@@Tip9z_ I don't believe in Muhammad's god. I believe in the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

[@criticalthinker1123]

*Muslims' savior is the one that Jesus himself cried to when he was in pain, He is the same God that jesus said I cannot do anything without his permission, the same God that Jesus said, I do not know the Hour, only God knows, that God is the saviour, so worship Him*

[@charlesmuhmanson3928]

@@criticalthinker1123 All explained by an understanding of the incarnation. But Allah is not the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

[@peterhwang352]

The Muslim version of Jesus has several difficulties associated with it: 1. It ignores many of the thousand year old prophecies about the Messiah. The Messiah, the anointed one of Yahweh, was to be the Son of David, born to a line of kings, to reign not only over Israel but also over all nations and peoples forever. 2 Samuel 7, Psalm 2, Isaiah 9, Daniel 7. 2. Who is the Spirit of God? Is it God himself, Gabriel, or Jesus? The Spirit of God came upon Mary and she conceived. So who is the father of Jesus? Is it God, Gabriel, or Jesus himself? Who is the Spirit of God? 3. Islamic Isa is a failure of the highest degree, because he failed to preserve his message. Why is Allah the best of deceivers, fooling everyone into believing that Jesus was crucified, instead of showing the world that he would protect his messenger from getting killed? Why the deception?

[@Resilient750]

@peterhwang352 First, there are no prophecies about Jesus in the Hebrew Bible, see Rabbi Tovia Singer's videos on Psalm 2, Isaiah 9, and Daniel 7, and also Thomas Paine's' article Examination of the Prophecies. The book Helping Jesus Fulfill Prophecy by Robert Miller refutes all the prophecy claims. Second, the Quran nowhere says the angel Gabriel "came upon" Mary, the Quran says Gabriel promised that God would create a child in her womb. There is no mention of "coming upon" Mary: She said, "My Lord, how will I have a child when no man has touched me?" [The angel] said, "Such is Allah ; He creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, 'Be,' and it is. 3:47 He said, "Thus [it will be]; your Lord says, 'It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to the people and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter [already] decreed.' " 19:21 It is only the Bible that uses the graphic term "came upon" or "overshadow" (Luke 1:35) Ehrman comments on this verse: I call this description “graphic” because there is nothing in it to make the reader think that the angel is speaking in metaphors. In a very physical sense the Holy Spirit of God is to “come upon” Mary and “therefore” - an important word here - the child she bears will be called the Son of God. (How Jesus Became God, by Bart Ehrman) Jesus had no father, it wasn't God, angel Gabriel, or any entity. Jesus is the Servant of God and the son of Mary, he came into existence through God's word. God simply said "Be!" and Jesus was created in the womb of Mary. It is the Bible that uses graphic language in Luke 1:35. Significantly, in the very Psalms quoted in the New Testament, there is a promise that the Messiah will not die: 3The cords of death entangled me, the anguish of the grave came over me; I was overcome by distress and sorrow.4Then I called on the name of the Lord: “Lord, save me!” 5The Lord is gracious and righteous; our God is full of compassion. 6The Lord protects the unwary; when I was brought low, he saved me. 7Return to your rest, my soul, for the Lord has been good to you. 8For you, Lord, have delivered me from death, my eyes from tears, my feet from stumbling, 9that I may walk before the Lord in the land of the living. Psalms 116:3-9, referenced in 2 Corinthians 4:13 17I will not die but live, and will proclaim what the Lord has done. 18The Lord has chastened me severely, but he has not given me over to death. Psalms 118:17-18, referenced in Hebrews 13:6 Now this I know: The LORD gives victory to his anointed. He answers him from his heavenly sanctuary with the victorious power of his right hand. Psalm 20:6 The Hebrew Bible makes it clear that the Messiah will be protected from death. The Quran 3:54 says the enemies of Jesus planned to crucify him, but God in turn planned against the enemies by protecting Jesus' life on the cross. God saving his own prophet from death is not deception, the word makr in 3:54 doesn't mean to deceive, it means to plot and plan. There is nothing wrong with God plotting against the enemies of his prophet. The intention of God was to save Jesus from death, not to fool anyone, your claim is difficult because Christians have no writings from the Disciples' own hands to know what they believed, or from anyone who witnessed the event. They just have four anonymous gospels written decades later in a different language, far away from the places Jesus walked. The gospels don't claim to be inspired. None of them are written by eyewitnesses or claim to be. In Mark 15:44, the Pilate was surprised that Jesus had "died" so soon, he marveled because it takes longer than six hours to die from a scourged crucifixion. Raymond Brown in his commentary on John said the spear thrust is not historical, it was invented by John to counter people who said Jesus did not actually die. But even if its historical, the Romans initially doubted that Jesus was really dead, hence the need to pierce him. In John, even after the Romans "saw" that he was "dead already" they pierced him anyway , which wouldn't be necessary if they believed he was already dead (John 19:32-34). And the fact that Jesus' legs were not broken is another indication that he was not really dead, because brea king the legs leads to death, but he was spared this. The Pilate's marvel, the invention of spear thrust, and legs not broken all form a strong argument that Jesus was not dead. The Pilate marveled because according to his experience, it takes much longer than six hours to die from crucifixion.

[@peterhwang352]

​@@Resilient750 You are far too modest to quote what the Quran really says about Maryam and the conception of Jesus. Surah 66:12 states that Allah breathed his spirit into her private parts. Look up the original Arabic and see how translators struggle to sanitize this.

[@peterhwang352]

​@@Resilient750Your point of view is self contradictory. If you side with Rabbi Tovia Singer then you deny that Jesus is the Messiah and renounce Islam. The truth is that Islam has no concept of who the Messiah truly is and denies all of the Old Testament prophecies concerning him. Just deny and distort.

[@peterhwang352]

​​@@Resilient750 And the Gospel of John explicitly claims to be the testimony of the eyewitness and disciple John, is confirmed by archeological details of Jerusalem before it was destroyed in AD 70, manuscript fragments dating back to the 2nd century, and the unanimous testimony of the early Church fathers. And the Gospel of John is unanimously agreed to be the last one! In contrast, the hadith and sirah of Muhammad were written centuries later by the Abbasid caliphate centered in Baghdad, with manuscript evidence for those centuries after that. You have zero evidence for the Muhammad of Abbasid legends if you disregard the four-fold gospel. Please try to apply consistent standards.

[@Resilient750]

@@peterhwang352 The verse 66:12 means the angel Gabriel breathed the soul of Jesus into the opening of Mary's garments, not directly into her private parts. Here I quote renowned classical and medieval commentaries on 66:12, not modern tafsirs: The eminent Imam Ibn Jarir At-Tabari states in his commentary known as “Jami’-ul-Bayan”, Allah Whose remembrance is exalted says “And Mary the daughter of ‘Imran, who guarded her farj” He means: who protected the opening of her garment from Gabriel (peace be upon him); any opening or tear in the garment is called farj, as well any crack in a wall, or a window in a roof is a farj. His saying “and We breathed into it of Our spirit” He means: We breathed into it i.e., into the opening of her garment; this is her farj. From Our Spirit i.e., from Gabriel; he is the Spirit. Exegetes have given similar statements; Ibn ‘Abdul-A’la said: Ibn Thawr said on authority of Mu’ammer on authority of Qatada that“and We breathed into it of Our spirit” means We breathed into the opening of her garment from our spirit. (At-Tabari, Jami’-ul-Bayan, Volume 28, page 192) Imam Al-Qurtubi in “Al-Gami’ le Ahkam-el-Qur’an” states, “who guarded her farj” - from lewdness. Commentators say the faarj is intended to mean the opening of the garment because He says “We breathed into it of Our spirit”; Gabriel (peace be upon him) breathed but into the opening of her garment and did not breathe into her private part. In the recitation of Ubai “We breathed into the opening of her garment of Our Spirit”. Every opening in the dress is called farj like His saying“and there are no flaws (furooj sing. farj) in it?” (Holy Qur’an 50:6). It is probable that she guarded her private part and he breathed into the opening of her garment. (Al-Qurtubi, Al-Gami’ le Ahkam-el-Qur’an, Volume 28, pages 203-204) Imam Ibn Kathir in “Tafsir-ul-Qur’an Al-‘Azeem” states, “And Mary the daughter of ‘Imran, who guarded her farj” i.e., protected and purified it; guarding (ihsan) is chastity and absence of immorality. “We breathed into it from Our spirit” - by the Archangel Gabriel for God the Most High sent him to her, so he shaped in the form of a man. God the Most High commanded him to breathe with his mouth into the opening of her garment, the breath then descended and entered through her private part, and she conceived Jesus (peace be upon him). (Ibn Kathir, Tafsir-ul-Qur’an Al-‘Azeem, Volume 8, page 92) As-Samarqandi in “Bahr-ul-‘Uloum” states, “who guarded her farj” means who purified herself from lewdness. "We breathed into it from Our spirit" means We sent (Angel) Gabriel (peace be upon him) so he breathed into the opening of her garment. Al-Mawardi in “An-Nukat wa Al-‘Uyoun” states, “And Mary the daughter of Imran, who guarded her farj” commentators state that the farj is intended to mean the opening (of the garment) for He says "We breathed into it from Our spirit"; and Gabriel breathed but into the opening of her garment. Al-Baghwi in “Ma’alem-ut-Tanzil” states, “And Mary the daughter of ‘Imran, who guarded her farj; and We breathed into it of Our spirit” - into the opening of her garment. Al-Galalan Al-Mahalli and As-Suyuti state, “And Mary the daughter of Imran, who guarded her farj” - protected it.“We breathed into it from Our spirit” - it is Gabriel when he breathed into the opening of her garment what God the Exalted had created, so it reached her private part and she conceived Jesus. (Al-Mahalli and As-Suyuti, Tafsir-ul-Galalin, page 543) Ash-Shawkani in “Fath-ul-Qadir” states, “who guarded her farj” from lewdness, its exegesis has been mentioned in Surat-un-Nisaa. Commentators state that the farj is intended to mean the opening of the garment for His saying “We breathed into it from Our spirit”; Gabriel breathed but into the opening of her garment and she conceived Jesus. (Ash-Shawkani, Fath-ul-Qadir, Volume 5, page 340)

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As usual. DrShabir as all Muslim, acknowledge jesus as a prophet but deny his divinity. Jesus is the coming savior the prophets spoke of in the Old Testament… but as usual, the Muslim will stay the corruption of bible.. incredible how far length Muslims will alway deny. Being resurrected makes him far superior than your prophet who died and remained dead.

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Ever wonder the mother of God is rotten 6 feet under, why the son who is supposedly god didn’t save his mother ?

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Brother, you must not be familiar with Christian doctrine about saving humanity with His death. Literally the reason he was came into the world lol. Muslims trust what a man 500 years later said about him, not very reliable.