What M4 iPad Pro means for M4 Macs (Huge WWDC Reveal?)

Why did Apple skip the M3 chip and go straight to M4 for the iPad Pro? Why is the M4 chip so powerful? When are M4 Macs coming? Let me explain EVERYTHING!
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[@MaxTechOfficial]

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[@rwick628]

PSA: The m4 is only about 3% faster than the m3 if you do not count the greatly improved ML accelerators. It is 200% faster in this and massively boosts the synthetic Benchmark score.

[@iggy6841]

I was looking to buy the M3 soon, but might wait now for the M9 instead.

[@marcust123]

Lol

[@fmax3000]

if this confuses you, then an M1 Air is probably plenty over powered for your needs. Relax!

[@jeffersonmp4]

M5 or M6 with Oled displays are the ones.

[@TheHoonShow]

I’m waiting till Apple RISK-V comes out

[@joseph2024]

It will be out next year, Christmas.

[@johnrose5312]

I was looking to buy a M3 Mac - but will now wait for the M4 lineup - suspect I will not be alone in this, so I would expect Mac sales to tank until M4 arrives.

[@lgmarquez5469]

I feel like Apple might be cooking something up for WWDC for iPad OS. That’s why I’m waiting to see what they have for us. I was thinking of getting a MacBook but will wait and see.

[@miguelrodriguez5590]

@@lgmarquez5469 Same same

[@bladeddavid1144]

Same! I was going to buy a 16 in m3max but I’m going to wait now

[@vinyltarian]

Same for me. I can't see anyone buying an M3 MacBook pro at this point unless they are desperate. Apple should offer a generous trade-in for M3 MacBooks and release the M4 MBP asap. This way they will not upset the people who just bought an M3 MBP and we can all move on to the M4 MBP.

[@raphi154farel5]

Osborne effect all over again.

[@amizan8653]

Apple probably didn't hype the m4 chip details so people would still keep buying the products that are still on M3

[@joffrey6831]

True that

[@ElZamo92]

No, they don't hype it up because it is unnoticeably faster than the M3 in general compute performance. It is WAY faster in AI tasks, but that's about it. The M4 is made for efficiency, cost cutting and buzzword effectiveness (AI), not massive performance gains.

[@77dris]

@@ElZamo92 How do you know this?

[@burtdanams4426]

@@ElZamo92 The reason the chips are so much better is because apple's chip supplier, TSMC, switched over form the N3B node, which was basically just an in between node that was used basically just for apple, and it was kind of a nightmare and had really bad yields, and it took an EXTRA SIX LAYERS of EUV work at minimum, and in some parts of the chip it needed MORE layers than that. Plus the chip leaked a lot of power compared to what it should have been, and also the performance was like 5-10% lower than what it should have been, which is what this new process node is meant to correct. And so now, because the process is much easier, and the yields are gonna be much higher, meaning that they don't have to shell out tons of money on chips that fail to work properly, means that they can put WAY MORE CORES on these chips, much more easily, and so even tho m4 multicore really isn't that much more powerful per core than the m3 chips, the fact is that now they can get 10 on the m4 instead of 8 on the m3. And they also fixed a few critical issues that were holding back the single core performance, and made some major improvements to a few core areas of the chip that will stop the single core performance from being bottlenecked.

[@burtdanams4426]

@@ElZamo92 you clearly know nothing bro

[@orangeofmars2835]

Yes, it would be great if Apple announced the whole M4 thing at WWDC 2024. Reset the whole thing.

[@ssoonngg]

i am genuinely excited this time around for M4 family. People usually say that Apple products are overpriced, but nowadays a single enthusiast GPU will cost you just about a MacBook Pro price, or indeed a Mac Studio price. And you will need to pay that if you work with 3d, simulations, rendering, and any other heavy duty creative workloads. Seems like architectural improvements and node advantages will help me get over the fear of missing out on beefy PC parts. I currently own an M2 mac mini and a very powerful PC rig, and will be happy to fully switch at last.

[@GarrusVakarian-to2uh]

That’s not true a high end GPU is 450 for AMD and 550 for Nvidia and they are faster than anything Apple has ( Apple charges more than the GPU price just for a bit of ram )

[@ssoonngg]

@@GarrusVakarian-to2uh if a $550usd GPU is 'high end' from your point of view, you are in for a rough awakening whenever you will need to do high-end sims and rendering with GPU acceleration

[@GarrusVakarian-to2uh]

@@ssoonngg Let me ask you, is the RTX 3090 not high end? People just paid almost $2000 for that during Covid 2 years ago. So? Get the Radeon 7900 GRE or the RTX 4070 Super voila same performance as the RTX 3090. You are the kind of person my IT department likes to say NO to. NO, you don't need an RTX 4090 to do your job.

[@ssoonngg]

@@GarrusVakarian-to2uh 4070 has 12GB of vram, whereas 3090 and 4090 have 24GB of vram. Even a medium sized volumetric simulation will not fit into 12GB. A rendering with huge amounts of geometric and volumetric data will also fail to fit into such GPU. This was literally THE selling point of Unified Memory, using Octane render of a spaceship as the showcase. You have no idea what i need to do my job, nor the constraints involved. I am using this not to insult your knowledge/experience, but to show that a scenario like mine requires an approach that has nothing to do with your IT department perception of what is the bottleneck.

[@GarrusVakarian-to2uh]

@@ssoonngg You are changing the subject, a $450-$550 video card is high end. Almost nobody needs more. An RTX 4090 doesn't help, my models need 200GB+ ram and the video ram is not the bottleneck, most of it is contained in system memory. You are also changing subject from performance (the GRE and 4070 Super have enough performance) to ram capacity. I was just pointing out that RTX 3090 performance is still high level in 2024. You can buy that for $450-$600 today.

[@Daddy000]

78 percent of us use the iPad for Netflix and the other percent is gaming and video production

[@hobomike2197]

AAA games are starting to hit mobile now. I'm sure that will be the norm in the future. That's basically what I'm using it for.

[@akin242002]

Some use the iPad Pro for inventory management and high-end restaurants (waiter or host). Although the Samsung Galaxy Tablet 9 does that and slightly better, minus CPU speeds.

[@Daddy000]

@@akin242002 doesn’t take to much to run a simple Ui that is runs on native coding which take less ram and performance

[@Shxdow.Entertainment]

Bro u completely forgot about artists who make up a big percent 😭

[@marcust123]

Do people really game on ipads? The things thermal throttle after about 15 mins and you have to keep them plugged in with anything more demanding

[@hamedizzy5137]

So if I wanted to get the top tier Mac book pro I should hold off for the m4 max?

[@parkersmith885]

Bro so deep he prob dreams about apple silicon every night ... or has nightmares.

[@stevenrast4261]

Probably lol

[@jamesnyers1721]

For sure. When i started to install blinds as a job, i had dreams about them. It was a sign that i needed a break.

[@MaxTechOfficial]

Hahah haven’t gotten there yet.

[@pfh777]

When your first word in every sentence is Bro, I suppose anyone else is deep.

[@jidofole]

@@pfh777 Why so harsh: Bro?

[@jpoviedr]

Cool that the improved and all, but after having invested in an M3 MBP a few months ago…. It is very frustrating….

[@gliderman9302]

M4 MacBook Pros aren’t going to come for another 5-6 months atleast

[@briancole1887]

This will always be the case in tech. There will always be something better coming. The best advice I’ve heard is don’t buy unless you have to, and when you do have to buy, do so without regret.

[@pau.5758]

Do not worry your machine is great. The fact is that Apple releases chips so fast that it always feels like you have to wait for the M10 chip LOL. Like when the m4 max will be announced you re going to see the m5 around the corner and so on...

[@apoorva.pandey]

That's why it's important to research as to what's going on in terms of development. I know most people can't do that or honestly don't care but keeping yourself updated allows you to know the best time to upgrade your devices.

[@jpoviedr]

@@briancole1887 you are right! Oh well I was still on Intel so it is an upgrade for me, won’t upgrade again until M6 or M7

[@guidrissen]

Makes sense if they lauch m4 ultra and max first for the mac studio, at WWDC (and maybe an m4 extreme for the mac pro), as this are the most expensive products. And later, by the end of the year (october / november) release the rest of the mac lineup.

[@BradMacPro]

Most profit margin in the Mac Studio series and Mac mini series sells in better numbers. Neither as good as laptops but the desktops have been waiting longer for new versions.

[@user-dp8dr4wl8z]

I can imagine if Extreme will be two Ultra sticked together that they may launch those two in MacPro and maybe Ultra MacStudio at WWDC now. They need to give developers some HW to test AI features coming with new OSs.

[@BradMacPro]

@@user-dp8dr4wl8z I’m not sure how many software developers need the Mac Pro, but the Mac Studio is sure to be popular.

[@rstefoni]

Well written and thoughtful video line and analysis. Looking forward to see that M4 iMac. It would be great.

[@RoadRider123]

Thanks! Very insightful and informational

[@NNI4262]

The big question is....will they make 16 gb of ram standard for the M4?

[@jeffersonmp4]

16 gb is almost impossible. Probably 12 gb but most likely they'll keep 8 gb. At least for entry levels.

[@josephr7529]

If they announce on-device AI features at WWDC, there is a slim chance they put 16 Gb on base models to be able to properly run models. This is our only hope.

[@PaultheMusicMan]

I thought the 1TB and 2TB versions have 16GB, and the others have 8GB? I may be wrong...

[@sagepran1730]

The crazy thing is that I was about to buy a MacBook Pro before all of this Hope it’s worth the wait

[@williamrodriguez6502]

Due you think for the existing M3 devices out there will they be limited in any way down the road? For example, may future features work with M4 and above?

[@Arsenal120]

that's exactly what I was thinking. It seems that Apple may have shafted people somewhat knowing this was their roadmap

[@williamrodriguez6502]

I’m still rocking an M1 Max, M3 almost pulled the trigger glad I didn’t

[@jailenc6674]

@@Arsenal120just bought a Mac book pro last year, this shit is ridiculous

[@Arsenal120]

@@jailenc6674 that I’d be set for a while, but now it seems like we might have bought a lemon that won’t be supported for more than 5 minutes. It’s not like they’re giving this stuff away

[@techinrl9869]

Since the major revision in this chip was the NPU, if I were to guess, I’d say that on-device AI may be limited to M4 (and upcoming A18 for iPhone) and later. The GPU and CPU cores are general purpose and the media engines were finally revised, but kept support for the same codecs.

[@joffrey6831]

I completely agree ! It makes more sense to first release a chip on desktop machines, then make it available on MacBooks later...

[@oida10000]

What will they do with the iMac?

[@vong4518]

How much you lose performance when using the base spec choked M4 chip?

[@julio4494]

Bro eats apples for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Apple pies, apple cider, apple chips, apple fritters, apple strudels, etc…

[@ricardorgomez]

Agreed. I think the M4 Max/Ultra Mac Studio will be released in WWDC. As you mentioned, it doesn't make sense to buy the Mac Studio M2 Ultra with the performance of the M3 Max being so stellar. I want the Studio for my big workflow needs. But an M3 Max laptop would be super for portable needs. I had a base Mac Studio M1 Max while my Intel i5 laptop was in the shop. It was super-impressive. It was literally 4x faster than my MacBook Pro and If I include the external monitor and accessories, about $1000 more money. Even my toughest creative test took single-digit minutes versus 1/2 an hour or longer. Loved that machine. With the potential performance of the M4 Max, I may not have the need or feel the need to go Ultra. Sure enormous video projects would benefit with the added features of the Ultra. But we're talking movie length projects. How many of us do that.

[@pau.5758]

I'm still super happy that i switched from a mac intel i7 to a 16" m3 max that is on par if not faster than the M2 Ultra (especially for the 3d tasks). It's crazy tho how fast Apple is in releasing new chips. I'm curious tho, how much of a difference will there be between a m3 max and a m4 max since Apple compared the m4 to m2 and not m3.

[@rhoderzau]

Will you be making a video going into the Geekbench details that show why it’s reporting so much higher and that we’re not likely to be seeing the kinds of gains the Geekbench benchmarks indicate?

[@asjsjsienxjsks673]

Because he doesn’t even know what those details are. He’s probably saving the drama for another video once his two neurons fire. Worst part is the object detection relies on ANE and isn’t even CPU related. The m4 just knows how to offload to it. Not saying that Apple silicon isn’t awesome but it’s not a 20% single core gain.

[@Alex-vp4ky]

M4 & m4 pro mac mini at wwdc. Mac studio and m4 max/ultra chips in the fall. It gives them something to talk about and graphs to use if they dont reveal the max and ultra variants next month

[@dmrr7739]

This video was very useful for me. It’s good to know the “why” for future upgrades, and not just get a list of predictions.

[@Everyday-man]

What about GPU? Is it improved over M2or M3?

[@PersonSuit]

I really hope you are right with the Mac line up at WWDC. They really need to refresh the Mac desktop line up since their all running on the M2. I can't imagine them waiting till next year before we see any desktop upgrades.

[@kevinbeardslee7587]

Can you do video speculating GPU counts in M4 Pro, Max, and ultra? Also performance, can it finally match 3080? I agree btw re: WWDC M4 desktops, though we might get an iMac with mini led at 30”. I just want a studio with some GPU grunt 😄

[@ffabcd5091]

Did a mess up buying a m3 pro mac a few months ago?

[@hidayetabdiid6378]

Bought 3 weeks ago iPad Pro 2022 should I sell it for cheaper and get the new one ?

[@norcalandrew]

For how long the hype has been building up for the new iPad's, why did you even consider buying one back then? lol

[@kennethou1093]

What is the implication of the new 3nm node on iPhone 16 this year?

[@noblefan591]

So now what does this mean for the A18 chip? I want an explanation on that next now that this has been revealed.

[@MaxTechOfficial]

They’re gonna be very powerful. Around 3500-3600 single core.

[@JSPatel-oy7ls]

Should o sell my mbp m3max while it still has value?

[@eraldway]

M4 & M4 Pro MacMini, M4 Max and M4 Ultra Mac Studio, M4 Ultra and M4 Extreme Mac Pro will be announced at WWDC.

[@tubeyou6794]

yeah, they are gonna piss all over ipad, and the ipad exclusivity lol.

[@quentinlcs]

WWDC will mainly talk about OS update and AI

[@MonsieurGuy]

M4 was never gonna be iPad exclusive lol, first to launch yes, never exclusive, makes no sense to a soc that is arguably one of the worlds best currently and have its use limited by iPad OS lmao ​@@tubeyou6794

[@SelvarajuManivannan06]

@@quentinlcsyes but they just announce plainly macs coming with M4 models. They already done this many times..

[@lagado1lag]

Nah, will be software only

[@jxz80]

It's a very legitimate educated predication. You did a wonderful job. Thank you.

[@blacksheep7576]

Do you think they might continue producing M3 products, but made with the N3E node rather than N3B? Or are they just going to discontinue M3 altogether?

[@elitetteh]

Unlikely. I think his argument is that you can’t make N3E chips on an N3B assembly line and I suspect vice versa. M3 devices will go the way of M1: excess stock sold by third parties but not in production by Apple.

[@MaxTechOfficial]

Discontinue altogether. My take is that when the M4 MacBook Air comes out, the M2 MacBook Air will stay as the $999 MacBook again instead of the M3. M3 will get cut completely.

[@MrSamPhoenix]

This is crazy! How much faster can these things get?

[@scriptles]

I would like to see apple use frore's airjets to cool their products. I think that would enable a significant performance improvement without having to even redesign the cpu's.

[@TheGippy30]

I can’t wait for the bendgate tests, are you doing them

[@awgdansk]

Using M4 chips in iPads Pro first was a clever marketing trick - Apple realized that from user’s perspective there is little reason to upgrade iPads with M chips. If you first upgrade your MacBook to M4, why would you want to upgrade a perfect iPad Pro with M2 on board? But, driven by curiosity, benchmarks and hype, if you upgrade your IPad Pro first, you will be happy to upgrade you MacBook as well.

[@SteveNeighbor]

Yes! I would give Apple props for some actually compelling reasons to upgrade to the new iPad Pro.

[@rocketbrothers540]

I just got a new 14” MacBook pro with the M3 Pro for work in January. Glad I didn’t purchase this machine, I would be bummed I purchased a machine with a placeholder chip. However I am looking at getting the 13” M4 iPad Pro for my personal use and mix business use with it. I travel a lot for work and I don’t always want to break out my laptop for video viewing on a plane and 98% of my work could be done on an iPad.

[@Krell666]

Moving to M4 makes a lot of sense. Fingers crossed an M4 Ultra Studio comes soon!

[@JimCutler]

I'm hoping. Chomping at the bit for a Mac Studio but don't want an M2.

[@PAZPERDEE]

Same 🤞

[@fmax3000]

Well, join the waiting queue, lol.

[@sudonoodle1773]

Same here

[@DaveEtchells]

Great analysis. I was on an 2020 Intel MBP and badly needed Apple silicon for AI, but heard rumors of the M4 being much better for neural processing, so bought a maxed-out M1 Max version to tide me over. No mention of beefed up neural processor yet, but just the CPU boost seems worth it.

[@stevenrast4261]

Yeah I’ve got an M1 Max studio too, and in thinking I’m going with the M4. The multicore on an iPad is better than my desktop. I think its time to upgrade

[@DaveEtchells]

@@stevenrast4261 How crazy is it that an _iPad_ is outperforming desktops? 🤯 I’ll definitely go for a beefy M4 Max, but the M1 Max is just a gigantic step up from my Intel MBP and is letting me experiment with local AI now without waiting.

[@stuartaparker]

M4 Neural engine has the same core count as M3 but can do 38 trillion ops vs 18 trillion ops on the vanilla M4.

[@SteveNeighbor]

Me three! Grabbed a Studio with M1 Max bc couldn't wait to run local AI models. Looking forward to an M4 Max or Ultra with massively more multi-core. Now if only we could use GPU + Neural Engine to run open source...

[@MoonshineOctopus]

The TSMC roadmap you show has N3 in 2022. Designs take a long time and their design for that node started 3-4 years before then. When N3 was delayed to 2023 Apple had to still have a solution for their 2022 products. I believe they back-ported some of their design N3 design to N5P and included some upgraded M1 blocks to create the M2. This meant they had fewer transistors to work with and had to leave off the rumored ray tracing features from M2 and other planned enhancements. They then had an extra year to work the design that became the M3, but already had the M4 design team working in parallel, so may have put more focus on the M4. This theoryin summary has the original M1 being on N5 in 2020, the M3 design was to come out mid 2022 on N3B, and the M4 design was intended to be on N3E in 2023

[@MaxTechOfficial]

Yes exactly! This makes sense as well!

[@SteveNeighbor]

This makes a lot of sense - Apple had to know about the delays well in advance, and also explains the quick moves from M1>M2>M3>M4 with only limited improvements. For M4 rollout, iPad Pro makes a lot of sense bc it is due for an update, plus the low volume will allow for yields to ramp on the new process node. Next, they will be under pressure to switch M3 to M4 in MacBooks and iMacs - in that order - for back-to-school and holiday seasons. It would be unfortunate for the current M2 desktops to languish for a while, but not the first time Apple has made parts of their own product line obsolete before replacing them.

[@ufopsi]

Best detailed explanation. Period. 😎

[@saiphaneeshk.h.5482]

So no more m3 series will be produced for MacBook?

[@richdoescraft4599]

The current m3 MacBook Pro line and the m3 chip will still be produced until they switch to m4.

[@VJROMULUS]

I totally agree. It makes perfect sense to do that. It goes back to when Steve was running the company. We saw good huge upgrades and max come out at WWDC. I just hope Tim Cook takes from Steve the just one more thing and releases the whole lineup as you say as that does as I said, make perfect senseand we need them. We can’t wait.

[@arkaroy4308]

I just hope apple gives high refresh rate support in the M4 mac mini because M2 pro mac mini already supports upto 8k 60hz and 4k 240hz but M2 mac mini supports only upto 4k 60hz but no high refresh rate at lower resolutions

[@etoirandolph665]

We need Airpod max gen 2.

[@AhmedSh-nc6lj]

What's sad is that the M4 MacBook Air will come in at least another 10 months I can't wait that long

[@qwertyzxaszc6323]

Love my M1 Mac Studio but need more power and raytracing. Hopefully I can upgrade my Mac Studio with a M4 next month.

[@FordK9]

You should see what the M7 chip they are working on now can do!!! KZbinr dream!

[@mattoverton5526]

If the lower end SOC is going to be yearly and the upper end on 18-month cycles, then it makes sense that the upper end will skip a cycle, be early the next cycle, and be late in the last before repeating the pattern.

[@Frnzi5ko]

Is 13inch iPad Pro worth it? I got 2020 11inch iPad Pro and thinking of upgrading

[@anabang1251]

No

[@tallflguy]

Yes, but it depends if you are power user or not

[@Yourboy876]

Stick with the 2020 ipad pro 👌

[@mv1421]

Thinking of the same.. deff upgrading for OLED but cant decide if i should go to 13” or stick with 11”

[@cyauka4701]

I got the 11 inch iPad Pro 2018 once it’s released, and just preordered the 13 inch iPad Pro today!

[@adamcimino2143]

Was going to buy a new Mac Studio when it was supposed to come out June 10th…. Now, it looks like I’ll need to wait longer to get an M4 Mac Studio or Mac Pro. I just want to connect these two Pro Display XDRs to something

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

One of the most informative videos I’ve ever seen on this topic. Also, I agree with you that the M4 Macs are coming next month, just not sure how many.

[@akin242002]

Excellent business process information. The M3 chip is still excellent even if it wasn't a finished product. My wife has the M3 Air, and she loves it for basic web browsing and entertainment.

[@pfh777]

Yes, no doubt she is comforted by a chip that can process 18 bn instructions per second to support her rigorous email, web browsing, and KZbin demands.

[@akin242002]

@pfh777 Well, her Imac of 10 years was getting too old and was long overdue for an upgrade. Also, she needed a backup in case her work laptop (M1 Pro 14-inch) was taken away due to a possible layoff. Some of her coworkers did get laid off and made the horrible choice of treating their work laptop as a personal one. During the layoffs, their whole work computer was shut down. They lost tons of family photos, tax documents, and other personal information.

[@nemjor9253]

@@akin242002well that is a pretty bad choice ouch

[@OnTheSnap1]

The iPad refresh cycle is so slow makes sense to put the latest chip in it

[@asafblasbergvideographer]

@Max Tech What about a new Mac Studio in 2024?

[@johngwheeler]

Watch the last minute of the video! He thinks it will be announced during WWDC 24

[@bemacbe]

I don't think so. You think Apple would announce the m4 chip and wait half a year before shipping it in a Mac?! I hope this is not the case. 😩 They will announce new Macs at WWDC along with the AI infused Mac OS next month.

[@stevenrast4261]

No leaks saying so though. I would love that. But I doubt it will happen

[@NotGarrettG]

@@stevenrast4261lol. Leaks are not Gospel bro. Us as Consumers have a very delayed reaction to Information. Imagine Playing Telephone through 50 different entities. Jon Prossor had great inside connections & MaxTech goes deep with info too and it’s amazing. The Chip Chart was awesome to see. THAT explains Sam Kohls upset was about M2 in Air & the M3 chip skip.

[@andyabajo]

I wonder when Apple will release the M4 Extreme. It was rumored back when M1 was released about a four M1 Max chip connected together (Jade 4C - Die). They should be up on something since the new up and coming RTX 5090 specs was already leaked and it was really bonkers.

[@SupertechUSA]

Predicting a slight redesign for the m4 MacBooks to take advantage of that 3nm chip! New iPad Pros hint to it plus it’s already been 3 generations of the 14 and 16 in

[@yemanator]

Wow, so much interesting information! Makes me wonder if I should get the iPad Pro M4 instead of a MacBook Air M3.. hmmmm🤔

[@elitetteh]

If it’s for Work get the Air. If it’s for Play get the iPad.

[@beercreep]

The iPad with the 9 cores seems to be a lot slower, according to Geekbench it is around 13060 for the multicore.

[@richieb74]

that's still an improvement over the base m3 and it can do it with only 3 cores

[@sleekitwan]

A 50% leap in power from my present M1 device, that’s pretty significant. The worldwide issue that bogged everything down, has gone and so there’s just the other worldwide issues that are bogging everything down. Good insight, thanks.

[@darkashes9953]

Sounds great

[@cinemaipswich4636]

The iPad M4 Operating System is a tiny thing, that does not resemble its PC OS's. Its Apps are toys that cannot be scaled up to Pro Apps.

[@sunspower2]

Looking forward to Mac Studio M4 at WWDC!

[@antimer6799]

Will M4 Macs have Thunderbolt 5?

[@norcalandrew]

Doubt it. Even if they did have it, I wouldn't be surprised if it's not immediately available until a later update.

[@antimer6799]

@@norcalandrew Yeah, and I would think Mac Pros and Studio Ultras will probably get it first

[@kevinclws]

It makes more sense to release first the low volume high cost chips, and later the high volume low cost chips. This also gives time to get chip wafer yields up for high volume products. It also makes sense for Apple to minimize the design cost on a manufacturing node that can't be migrated to a new manufacturing process, but this is why for many years Intel did tick-tock chip upgrades to move an existing chip design to a new process, then a new design, then a new process, ...

[@TroikaMexicana]

I feel like they’d have to also do the M4 MBP if they do the studio lineup

[@Nattodayy]

I think what will get me to upgrade from my M1 Max MacBook Pro is if they added SDUC support, or maybe the dual SD & CFexpress card slot on the A7sIII. Otherwise this thing has been everything I’ve need in a laptop.

[@aeiedamo]

I thought you would mention that M4 includes a Display Engine made specifically for Tandem OLED which *might* mean the M4 macbooks will get OLED displays like the iPad Pro's.

I want a Mac mini M4 Pro. I think it will be enought for my Unity / Blender Workflow.

[@aleksandaarrr]

Should I wait for M4 MBA?

[@luke_1234]

What’s the background music in the opening?

[@DidierGaultier]

Brilliant !

[@fabiomoreira1751]

I will wait for the M4 Macbooks Lineup ( pro or max ) to upgrade my 2020 Core i9 imac 27''. I just buyed the imac and they launched those M1. But the core i9 is running fast until today whitout issues. Now I think is time to a real upgrade that worth de money. Those N3E are beats.

[@murtazachaudhary3339]

Nice video

[@burgundyonly]

WWDC 24 is going to be the most important WWDC event for apple! Can’t wait!

[@brachiator1]

M4 chips appear to be very efficient. This might result in extremely long battery life in M4 MacBook laptops. Or, Apple could make M4 laptops thinner, as they have done with the M4 iPad Pro. We might also see an 11 inch or 12 inch M4 MacBook Air. It is odd, though, that Apple would make M4 devices orphans. They could sell M2 and M3 laptops as lower priced laptops at Walmart.

[@alexanderfazel]

Absolutely! Mac Pro (M4 Ultra), Mac Studio (M4 Ultra and Max) will be released at WWDC. Possibly then, the Mac Mini may get the M4 and M4 Pro. This will release all M4 chips and Apple can wait till November or even spring of next year for M4 Extreme in Mac Pro. I don’t think they will release that this June. What an amazing even this WWDC is going to be, with all the software announcements!

[@daveh6356]

Mac Mini is due a refresh but if Apple are using this to switch release cadence from low-to-high over to high-low end SoCs it makes sense to go with Mac Pro + Mac Studio then Mac mini to avoid pre-release cannibalisation. Maybe a base M4 Mini but not the M4 Pro yet. M4 Ultra with heterogeneous dies? (i.e. M4 Max die + GPU/ANE-only die)

[@jesperhammarlund300]

i think there are one of 2 scenarios. 1 they release M4 pro, Max, Ultra along with relevant macs at WWDC or number 2 they only have software at WWDC and they release the M4 pro, Max and ultra later in october. that way they can sell out the final M3 macs that are left in stock. and i think october/november release is gonna happen cus there are so many chips for TSMC and Apple to get ready. and the M3 would be also 1 year old rather than 6 months. sure they want to push out the AI software.

[@cecil2809]

So now they dont give the ipad pro the mac os .we will see the oled macbook pro ?

[@startsomewhere1]

Hanging on until the June event. Desperate for a new Mac on a 2012 iMac using Catalina & borrowing my mom's M1 Macbook Air when I edit longer videos in Davinci as my current Mac only handles it for shorter videos. Been looking at the iMac M3 24 GB Unified Memory or the Mac Studio M2Max with a Studio Display which would give me 27" of screen. but closer to $6000 CAD versus the iMac M3 at $3500 CAD as I want a TB drive at least. Waiting to see if a M4 Studio comes out in June.

[@SteveNeighbor]

Mac Studio is still on M2, and my bet is that  are in no hurry to come out with M4 versions. The iMac and MacBooks with M3 will be the priority. Being a cheapskate, I just threw down on a Mac Studio (M1 Max) to replace my 2012 mini. It is *almost* as fast as an M2 for video (the media engines are nearly identical) and has 32GB RAM vs iMac's 24. Plus 10GbE that makes using a network volume soo much better. Only  know what will happen in June, so I will keep my fingers crossed for 'ya!

[@startsomewhere1]

@@SteveNeighbor Thanks for the feedback on your set up. As much as I love iMacs I'm sorta leaning towards the Mac Studio because I feel like I'm eternally waiting for something new (hear iMacs will come out later this year) and with the studio comes more power. Also thought about the mini. I'm searching for Apple news constantly :D.

[@IOT4747]

Well now it seems we gonna get M4 MAX and M4 ULTRA on upcoming Mac Studio at WWDC

[@prathamvora8841]

@MaxTechOfficial are the new M4 Pro MacBook Pros coming with OLED display? It's the only thing that's keeping me from buying the M3 one, can you tell what the rumours or leaks suggests on the M4 MacBook Pro displays?

[@MaxTechOfficial]

I don’t think Tandem OLED is coming to MacBook Pros until 2026 or 2027

[@kearfy]

Perhaps Apple struck a deal with TSMC to buy the N3D chips so TSMC doesn’t make a loss, but with an agreement where Apple is the first to receive the N3E chips?

[@lordgoblin7194]

Thunderbolt 5. How long, after announcement and demos, Apple implemented each Thunderbolt technology? Hyper has shown off TB5 docs, TB5 laptops shown at CES. If, as you say, Apple is on an 18 months product cycle, do you think they let everyone else release TB5 products? TB controller is built into the M series chips. Unfortunately, for the new iPad Pro, we’re stuck with TB3, not TB4. USB4, but TB3 only. We need TB5 to connect to the new generation 4k 240Hz QD-OLED monitors. I was hoping for TB5, WiFi7 and the H2 chip for AirPod Pro 2 in the new iPad Pro, instead we have lots of stuff that’s been removed.

[@duyo7027]

The explanation makes sense

[@MacinMindSoftware]

I'd say for WWDC from more certain to less in this order: Studio, Pro, Mini, but hopefully all.

[@eddiekytia]

Hello everyone. I'm new here and I did subscribe. I'm not a computer person at all and never owned Apple anything. I. Now retired and looking into a laptop for video and photography editing. I'm looking to stay around 2500. Would the MacBook pro m2 pro be a good editing laptop to grow I to? Or any suggestions for me.... thanks for any advice

[@klaasdikobo7354]

Thank you Vadim, what a great video. Never seen a man pour out his heart to make such a great argument in support for his statements. Wow, most attorneys should learn from you.👌

[@MaxTechOfficial]

Wow that’s too kind! I’m nowhere close to attorney level. Just sharing my nerdy passion lol. Thank you.

[@timothylinn]

This is excellent content!

[@lenn55]

But isn't M4's GPU basically the same as the one used in the M3?

[@MrCheeseman1982]

Yeah bros confusing me

[@tjk_9000]

crazy, there's little clarity on what will happen with WWDC, I need a new desktop mac

[@Profato]

M4 Ultra Mac Studio will be very interesting.

[@77dris]

Also the M4 Max too as I suspect it will be very powerful for a lot less money.

[@Profato]

@@77dris Yeah. I would personally buy the M4 Max model if I were to get one. I'm very interested in what the graphics performance will be on the Max.

[@BradMacPro]

Looking forward to WWDC and M4 Max based Mac Studio.