What Made the 2012 TMNT So Great | Series Retrospective (Part 3)

[@jessetorres8738]

I still feel this version of TMNT was both the funniest & darkest at the same time, which is strange to think when you remember it was a Nickelodeon series.

[@councilmanbanks6528]

No kidding

[@SwampKryakwa]

Minding Nickelodeon also made ATLA, not that strange on the second thought

[@rickyronny4019]

This show being on Nick don’t mean shit. Nick had some shows with violence

[@saiyanscaris6530]

@@rickyronny4019 its more of the timing of it as around this time most cartoons that were being shown nowadays were being more kid friendly and less violent

[@rickyronny4019]

@@saiyanscaris6530 ok

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

I find it hilarious that Seth Green being cast in an official TMNT cartoon makes his voiceover work as Leonardo in various TMNT skits on Robot Chicken like a trial run

[@mechajay3358]

It comes full circle.

[@soranora4597]

One thing that's noticeable in the 2012 series is that they flip stuff that the 03 series did around. In TMNT 03, the turtles go to space, and that causes the invasion arc 2 seasons later. While in TMNT 2012, it's the opposite, the Triceraton invasion causes the team to go to space. Another one is in 03 when the turtles meet Zog and Don goes to help him breathe. Ralph says that may not be a good idea what if turns around and attacks us, and again, the opposite thing happens. Zog helps the turtles first gets his equipment again and turns on the turtles. Those were just the ones that are noticeable in s3

[@kingbash6466]

I don't know if it's a hot take, but I really love a lot of the farms episode. As a horror buff, I really got a kick out of the episodes that references stuff like the Thing, Friday the 13th, and Nightmare on Elm Street.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

It would be fine if they cut like 3 episodes

[@shanecorcoran2542]

@@LeopoldLitchensteinI agree. Cut Bigfoot, the frogs, and I guess the dream beavers episode and honestly I’d be all for it. The other 5 are all good to incredible

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

@@shanecorcoran2542 Maybe keep Punk Frogs since it has a pretty fun Napoleon Dynamite homage

[@littlesparrow303]

I agree with that but I did feel like we did take a bit too long at the farm house than what the 2003 TMNT did

[@johnnyrico313]

And Texas chainsaw massacre

[@kingkirby1394]

As basic a change from the 87 show as it is, making bebop an MJ styled playa from the 80’s and rocksteady a grumpy russian man is one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen 😂

[@thehevandragon]

Then the bit in one episode where in the middle of one fight it just cuts to BeeBop randomly moonwalking.

[@dr.wolfstar1765]

Im shocked you didnt love the vision quest. That was my favorite episode this whole season. The turtlea outfits alone are amazing

[@ahaha272]

it was a cool concept but I hated the fact that Leo basically healed his injuries by deciding they’re not real But then again I love the healing hands which arguably make just as little sense

[@johnedwards4313]

​@@ahaha272its wasnt that they werent real its that it was phantom pain caused by trauma. The real injuries were already gone, but he had to get past his mental blocks

[@emondadon]

vision quest woulda been cool in concept but the execution was lacking. we've already had "donnie needs to not rely on his mind as much" and "Raph needs to control his anger" episodes so many times by that point. And we already know Mikey can focus when he needs to. The only one that was actually cool was Leo's. If this were like the last time the turtles would overcome these personal problems it woulda been cool but Donnie still relies on his mind more than aything, Raph is still a hothead, and Mikey still goofs up from not paying attention.

[@ahaha272]

@@johnedwards4313 oh yeah I didn’t get that all

[@contra7631]

Nope hated their outfits.I like their traditional style.I hated vision quest and many other pointless filler episodes in this show.Also hated how they never killed zever,Tigerclaw,Bebop,rocksteady etc. But outside of that I like the show alot.

[@s-link9400]

The season 3 finale is my favorite finale of the TMNT 2012 series. With the arrival of the Triceratons, so many characters teaming up to fight againts them, the deaths of Krang Prime & sub-prime and the death of Splinter which was both jaw-dropping & heartbreaking. The last moments of the episode with the earth getting destroyed and the heroes going off in space was a shocking ending.

[@DragonStar524]

2012 had a great blend of darkness and humor. They struck a nice balance.

[@StreakComics]

when they lost as a kid that was my avengers infinity war bro😭😭i sobbed

[@sonic5993]

Despite growing up on the 2k3 series, the 2012 series paved its own path while touching upon classic TMNT lore. It takes so many plot points from 2k3 (which were taken from the comics) yet it never felt it was retreading the same ground. It's a pretty good example of taking something old and making it feel new again.

[@GuyThatLikesYohane]

I always felt that the farm house episodes were such an awkward point to have filler episodes. Like the Krang already invaded New York and could begin taking over more of the world…yet who cares about that we need to have episodes parodying horror movies. It’s even weirder when in the first episode they say Leo’s been unconscious for months…thank god the Krang apparently just decided to stay in New York for all that time

[@protoman2260]

Ha good point. Although I kind of thought when they were in the woods for so long I almost forgot about NY so when they say it’s time to go back to NY I was like “oh shit let’s go!”

[@ahaha272]

it was very bad writing on their part as the excuse was that kraang’s mutagen supply was used up in the invasion and that’s why they couldn’t mutate the earth sooner yet we learn that time passes faster in dimension x and that they were ready to invade again the very next episode even tho the turtles had put them back months in their time in s2 ep 24 so in the 3/4 months where they weren’t in New York the kraang had years possibly decades to get more mutagen. Leatherhead also says that he was in dimension x for decades as well between s1 and 2 which I’m pretty sure only take place a few months to a year apart but don’t quote me on that

[@Theokal3]

yeah same. To their credit these episodes were fun, but it did feel weird that the Turtles were just chilling here while the Kraang were invading New York.

[@TristenSarelvun]

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I have to ask the question: when else would they do some of these stories? When else would they get the Turtles out of the city, into the country, so out of their element and in such distinct an area with its own opportunities for storytelling? Having them go back to New York only to occasionally head back to the farmhouse would've been even more awkward. Same for the space arc in season 4; I totally understand wanting to spend so many episodes exploring the idea because when else are they going to get to do so with this version of the Turtles?

[@GuyThatLikesYohane]

@@TristenSarelvun I would have just had them say Leo’s been out for days so it seems believable. Or tbh I would’ve just not had them at all outside of the spirit quest episode there all really boring.

[@Stefan-xl6xk]

Vision Quest is still one of my favorite episodes of the season, maybe the entire series!

[@coldnova1037]

that is one of the best solo episodes in tmnt history

[@viliamsneakman1508]

Honestly Season 3 is my favorite season of the show. It had some pretty cool episodes and I loved Krang Subprime, Bebop and Rocksteady. Also I found it kinda funny how both TMNT 2012 and Amphibia ended one of their season finales by stabbing a character on screen.

[@SteveDolive]

Yeah, TMNT 2012 did a great job unintentionally predicting the Amphibia season 2 finale

[@lennyzagara4600]

As someone who grew up with this version of TMNT along with the 2k3 version as well. There are some things I would like to go off of with your points. The pacing - While I do agree that the pacing of season 3 is a little weird it’s not mainly the show’s fault. The 8 “farmhouse” episodes of season 3 were supposed to air in October instead of November but because of the Michael Bay TMNT movie premiering and being advertised. The 8 “farmhouse” episodes of season 3 needed to be pushed back I’m not entirely sure but I think that’s the reason Karai’s cure - As for this in season 2 where Karai was originally mutated we see Superfly (Baxter Stockman fly) accidentally spill a chemical into the serpent DNA which made Karai a serpent in the near end of the episode before the credits and in episode 10 of season 3 Karai can transform from human into snake and even have a mixed form of human and snake. Donatello didn’t know a cure for Karai’s specific mutation in episode 11 of season 3 he wasn’t entirely sure and as for “Stockman curing Karai” he didn’t Karai transformed into her human form P.S Seth Green is the best Leonardo (I’m sorry I said it lol)

[@councilmanbanks6528]

I’m not going to lie, I feel like Paramount only gives credit to the 87 cartoon and in rare cases the 90’s movie, and I wish they would give more acknowledgment to stuff like 2003 and 2012 when how they build up future media

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

You took the words right out of my mouth

[@alexfischer7876]

Especially to 2003 show's one of signature episodes, _Same as it Never Was,_ for laying the basic groundwork for _The Last Ronin_ storyline.

[@jeradvalenzuela164]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@alexfischer7876Last Ronin was as a story concept long preceding the 03 show if Kevin Eastman is to be believed. Likewise the Mirage and Archie comics have done the dystopian future thing with some of the turtles dying or missing and even using the black clothing. Peter Laird was also less involved with TLR than Eastman. Not saying there’s no inspiration especially with Eastman and Tom Waltz, the main writers for TLR, used 03 characters in the IDW comics, but I doubt it was the main inspiration.

[@shawerful5209]

2010 was all about how the 90 was cool. Maybe the 2020 will be about the 2000, who knows

[@xsuperman08]

I like that April's mom is also a classic Voice actress!!! Like they are passing through torch.

[@petertilton7004]

I found it quite fascinating that they got Renee Jacobs, the voice of April in the 87 series, to be the alien mimic of this series's April's mom. Another thing to mention was the whole Crognard bit. That was a parody of Thundarr the Barbarian complete with parodies of Uukla the Moch and Princess Ariel, and another Scott Menville voiced punching bag character, and they made a He-Man reference. At least they're also progressing with the cartoon, in this case, early 80's. And though they were one off, the Punk Frogs have their incarnations with Atilla being like Atilla the Hun, Genghis being Genghis Khan, Rasputin being Rasputin but rather than Napoleon Bonapart, Napolean was based on Napoleon Dynamite. Also, they got Tom Kenny of Spongebob fame to voice Rockwell. And the Bebop and Rocksteady thing was previewed at a comic-con, at least, the storyboard was. Finally the Vision Quest episode was also a reference to Fuh-Rin-Ka-Zan. "Move as swift as the wind, stay as silent as a forest, attack as fierce as fire, unmovable defense like a mountain". With Leonardo as the wind, Mikey as the forest, Raph as fire and Donnie as the mountain.

[@marcoa6319]

I was interested in these references to previous Turtles shows. That’s what made the 2012 special to me as a gateway to the larger franchise. I also like that the reimagining in the Turtle Van. It was initially Kirby’s old hippie van the gang used and later turned it into a weaponized vehicle. I always thought it was a great redesign of the classic Turtle vehicle.

[@JAYDOG1337A]

Yeah, the Utrom Shredder will always be my favourite iteration of the character, but I have to admit I like this Shredder too. Him killing Splinter reminds me of the final moments of the Utron Shredder in the uncut version of the Turtles Forever movie, seeing he's about to die to uncurls his giant fist from around the Original Turtles, and then Karai tells him that killing the Turtles will kill everything, including him and begs him to stop, you see him contemplate for a moment, but he is Resolute, he is The Shredder, if killing the Turtles means everyone dies, then so be it.

[@akilcharles3473]

Personally for me I really love this season 3, yeah like their is some filler in some aspects in the first several episodes with the farm but I still find it to be quite enjoyable. Some worth mentioning was a bit of character development of some sorts with the turtles like Mikey that's been treated like the litter of the group and he decides to run away and meet the punk frogs. To me Mikey has been always my favorite and it saddens/upsets me whenever the turtles and other picks/bullies him throughout the show. And it's when he gets the respect that he deserves and is treated more like an equal than an annoying brother. Also the horror themes throughout the farm scenes was unexpected and thrilling for which I like about it. Also fun fact April's mom is voiced by the original April O'Neil from the 1987 series (Ranae Jacobs) which was surprising giving the return of old VA's from the original OG series that I grew up from. Another aspect was the introduction or reimagine of new characters like Hun who's design and mannerism are of late famous Bruce Lee. I said this before that this version of the 2012 TMNT series was by far my favorite of all the other iterations versions and still too this day.

[@randomstorykeeper]

Spoilers for the last season but it always bothered me in the episode where they show Splinter giving the turtles their weapons that he just gives Mikey his weapons just because. I mean it was meant for humour but it also felt like he didn’t value Mikey as much as the other turtles.

[@maldon3659]

​@@randomstorykeeperSplinter also said in season 1 that any one of the Turtles could've been the leader except Mikey because that would've been "wrong"

[@fusefire8685]

My favorite episode of the whole show was "race with the demon". A mutant car that possesses its driver is a concept that has not been done before or since in tmnt

[@WindowsillC.D.]

(Joke) *Flashback to the Disney movie Cars...* Not intentionally, no.

[@amcalycat93]

Thank you for uploading this! I can't get enough of your retrospectives, TMNT is such an amazing show in every itteration and I love you're a die hard fan without trashing on every new element the show did. It's Ninja Turtles, no two incarnations are the same, and yet so many people I try to talk to get so annoyed it wasn't their version. Love your videos, and I'll repeate that all day!

[@jonathanstromxmonicaddlcma6371]

Yeah, that’s true. In the opening where you said season two was very shocking to people. It’s still shocking when I pretend to be in the show with the group I used my genuine reactions from when I was very little. I’m 16 now in the show always has a place in my heart.😊

[@rickyronny4019]

I loved this season. Especially the second half. Rlly loved when they introduced Bebop and Rocksteady. These versions of the characters are my favorite

[@CreativeStoryteller35]

0:47 Yo, that's my comment! Lol I really liked Season 3 since they introduced a lot of new heroes and villains. And that finale was shocking to me. I didn't cry this time, I just watched in silence and disbelief as I processed the fact that Shredder actually killed Splinter, and then the Earth was just destroyed. Also, it totally flew over my head that Kraang Prime and Subprime died when the Technodrome was blown up by the Triceratons when I first watched it.

[@atleastdecent3810]

YAAAAAAAY he mentioned Gilbert Godfreid. He really does read the comments

[@JaceyChristian]

I understand that the farmhouse arc felt a little long, but the Kraang had used up most of the mutagen and so needed time to make their next move. Also, the team suffered a great lost along with Leo being badly injured. They needed time to process what had happened and relax before they could go back. Besides, their time on the farm helped developed their dynamics, like with Casey and Donnie in Race with a Demon, I can't remember the name so don't at me.

[@spinjitzumasterfalcon]

Now this season was where things got intense and a bit creepy. I remember as a kid, I was terrified of the first few Halloween episodes. But Vision Quest and some of the Foot Clan episodes this season were some of the best things I’ve seen of this series. But the finale, man…dude, I was shocked.

[@viliamsneakman1508]

17:28 Hot Take: 2012 Shredder is a better fighter than Utrom Shredder 2012 Shredder was able to defeat a Tricereton and Leatherhead unlike Utrom Shredder who couldn't even handle Zog in Rouge in the House or Leatherhead in Exodus

[@PizzaMan879]

That April Mom thingy haunted me for years. 💀

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

The creators of this show were huge horror movie fans.

[@Numbuh_W.]

I gotta say it’s kinda funny to think how Season 3 starts at the farmhouse as the gang recovers to fight the Kraang, only for the end of the season having the entire earth get fucking destroyed by the Tricerations. Talk about a leap

[@nicodemusedwards6931]

1:18 my first was when I was 4, watching Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith. When Palpatine turned out to be a Sith Lord and Anakin became Vader. After I saw, I went to my dad crying to tell him the horrible news. My mom said my dad laughed so hard when I told him.

[@deaglehawkings2543]

I honestly do miss Jason Biggs as leonardo regardless of his controversial tweets especially since I mostly grew up with the first 2 seasons

[@FoxsDumbSeriesMaker]

It’s always fun to hear you talk about Utrom Shredder. 2012 Shredder is a great villain for sure, but 2003 Shredder is just badass incarnate while doing something truly unique with the character. The design has yet to be surpassed, as well.

[@lesterwilliamsjr649]

I find it disturbing how the show ends in a universe where there are 2 sets of turtles and the turtles that go off to space and are never seen again. Imagine if a vesion of you from the future appears and takes your place while your on a vacation with no time limit.

[@KyanbuXM]

I assumed it was for time loop related reasons. To ensure everything they did in space still happens in some way. But even that's a bit muddy.

[@lesterwilliamsjr649]

@@KyanbuXM All of this could have been avoided if the writers did with what the Mr. Peabody & Sherman movie did and just make that if alternated versions of the same person get close to each other they would just merge into one person The writers could have also argued that because of the butterfly effect the Fugitoid in the past never came to Earth or came to Earth later.

[@michealbanksjr.3630]

There isn’t really a reason for those other turtles to be shown considering they’re literally the same people.

[@contra7631]

Maybe it is just me.I always felt like destroying the earth wasnt necessary in this show.They could have gone space with fugatoid anyway.Maybe to help him in something.But instead they destroyed the earth and did some bullsht time travel that feels so fake.So I kinda hated it cause of that.

[@lesterwilliamsjr649]

@@contra7631 Instesd of saying the T destroy worlds they could say they imprison worlds to ensure the K don't escape. I think it's to extreme for T to destroy an entire planet just to destroy the K, there wasting so much resources and a possible new planet for them to live on.

[@Sean-qg3gg]

Minor spoilers My biggest problem with Season 3 is that the Kraang are just dead. They still have some episodes in Season 4, but that’s mainly just due to time traveling. There’s some hint that the Kraang are still around in Season 5, but they never actually show up. So I’m left to believe the final showdown against Kraang Prime was Season 2’s finale, which is dissatisfying. For the love triangle, only Donnie’s side got resolved. Casey thought he and Donnie would still be competing. You’ll notice that Donnie is playing more defensive instead of trying to impress April or trigger Casey (though he still does trigger Casey since Donnie is easily tempered). Both characters still have an attraction toward April, but you’ll see for Seasons 4 and 5 that Casey generally loses interest, and it ends up being Donnie and April. I just thought I’d say this since the love triangle is a criticism for the show people exaggerate on, even though it gets resolved.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

Damn, Casey got cucked, RIP

[@burningdownthehouse365]

F April she's a heartless b**ch

[@MaximumPayine]

@@LeopoldLitchenstein Seriously? "Cucked"? Why do you use words you clearly don't know the definitions of? smh

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

@@MaximumPayine I thought it'd be funny

[@Sean-qg3gg]

@@MaximumPayineThey used it properly. It’s a bit of a hyperbole, but the impact is still funny

[@HeartL0cked]

12:24 This is perfectly summed up with the the final words from Donatello :I understand nothing.

[@susannaroselli1742]

the 2012 is the best as it slowly becomes dark and more serious from the end of season 2. Seein characters actually dying is something you need balls to do for a kids show, and they did it majestically without being to harsh.

[@thetoythief8940]

Character development in this show is one thing I noticed that's one sided characters will out right forget what they learned from the previous episodes

[@NerdySwede]

Something that I actually love about this series is all the references to classic horror/sci-fi films! It it crazy how much film history they cramped in there, which is also why I love the Pizza episode you didn't like (I also think it's just really funny). You can tell much of this was made by nerds, a tell-tale signs of course being the on-point references in the cartoons they watch each season that foreshadows the event of the episodes. The satire is spot on.

[@xaviergonzalez44]

I think you will like the space arc in Season 4. It’s my favorite part of the show and one reason is that it’s quite action packed. Looking back on the episodes, there’s barely any filler and the quest for the black hole generator pieces is always on the Turtles minds

[@PeteOfDawn]

Yes season 4 of 2012 as meant to be the last. Season 5 has a slightly different format being composed of several mini arcs that are pretty self contained rather than having one over arching story. But season 4 is meant to be the end of the main storyline with season 5 being some cool extra storylines if you want to spend more time with these character. In that respect it’s similar to the last 2 seasons of 2003 however unlike those seasons it’s not a big change in tone and style. As for the whole shipping thing I pretty much agree that it doesn’t really affect my enjoyment that much. I can see why ti bothers other fans but for me it’s something I can ignore since the show for the most part doesn’t make it a primary focus. Unlike that big foot episode which was one of the episodes that made me stop watching back in the day. That’s easily the worst episode of this series especially with its ending. I can see why you think 2003 Shredder is the better villain since he’s overall more menacing than 2012. But I consider 2012 to be the more compelling character of the two. It’s obvious from the first season that his whole life has been taken over by his vendetta against Splinter (and by extension the turtles) and he’ll succeed at getting his revenge by any means necessary. Which is not only shown in the last episode of this season but also season 4. One last detail I’ll point out that your videos are making me realize about this series is that they really do a good job selling how powerful the enemies are. Like in 2003 the Turtles are pretty even when they go up against Shredder (past season 1) and the triceratons and what not. But in this show that’s not the case as they are frequently bested and even lose which makes their victories feel all the more earned. You’ve really get the sense they’ve grown in strength and power where in 2003 they feel relatively the same in strength all throughout till season 5.

[@styler8940]

Tale of the yokai is my favorite episode of the series. I can't describe the pure emotion I felt while watching that

[@jutafreak6153]

I think the reason that Kari was able to be human again is because in the episode she was mutated, Baxter spilled retro mutagen into the snake DNA that was poured in the mutagen. I doubt you will see this because of when the video was posted, but it's a small theory I came up with

[@Butterism]

If I didn't _scream_ when Shredder killed Splinter. He was really willing to let the whole Earth burn to get his vengeance. I did not see that plot twist coming at all.

[@bowserbreaker2515]

11:35 I thought I was the only person to realize Greg Cipes and Ashley Johnson always do romances.

[@King-of-the-beginning]

The episode were the turtles go into the woods and fight their demons is the best episode of the entire show period

[@lordexplosionmurder5696]

The trash mutant is a 1987 ref and he is voiced by 2007 raphs va i love it

[@Deoxy360]

Nolan North?! Nice!

[@lordexplosionmurder5696]

Weird online it says muckman is voiced by someone else I swear on my life

[@lordexplosionmurder5696]

Or was it the trash man before he got mutated

[@lil_jay7926]

I knew bro sounded familiar, which is Nolan North, can’t stop thinking of Nathan Drake now

[@RainbowMan9407]

My personal mind-blowing plot twist was Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack in Time {spoilers} What can I say, I never expected a game to kill off the main character at the end. That ending still remains one of my favorite video game moments to this day.

[@PixelaGames2000]

I get what you mean when certain plots and locations are left on for way too long and have overstayed their welcome. I remember when I first watched the 2012 turtles during the pandemic, I stopped in the middle of season 4 because I felt like the turtles were in space for far too long. It wasn’t until this year that I finished off the rest of the series, but yeah..overall I don’t have a problem with the latter seasons, I just felt like some plots and locales have over stayed there welcome. I’m excited to see the rest of the videos as you talk about this series some more. And hay, maybe next year you could give Rise of the TMNT a try, that series is severely underrated in my opinion.

[@werewolf4925]

I actually loved season 3 quite a lot, although I had some issues, mainly with the stuff it introduces, since Hun and Snake Karai feel rather underutilized, which is a shame because I really enjoyed them. Season 4 tho, I gotta say most of the space arc was what really got me somewhat bored, as some of those episodes, and the main villain of that arc, weren't that interesting to me.

[@gundambassexe31]

Yes I remember the actor for Leonardo being switched during season 1-2 and Seth Green took over in season 3 onwards .

[@Bruhbruhbro47]

I was OBSESSED with the show!!! Its the greatest

[@gundambassexe31]

TMNT 2012 season 3 was definitely a wild one . Space arc and triceratrons ! 😊😊😊💚💚💚🌌🌌🌌🌌

[@kitsunepryde507]

I got be honest, i rly like how the Farmhouse arc takes some episodes, kinda sells the unconfortable and lake of the familiar ambient I was tough that the movies goes to fast with, you dont have the time to sink in

[@Harrymation-productions]

The season 2 finale didn’t shock me as much as season 3’s personally. As for the shipping with Mikey; at least give them credit for not dragging that out, as well as dropping the ship with Leo and karai

[@Madboygamer.]

they way they replaced jason big was very clever

[@Roddyisntreal3437]

Season 4 hands down is the saddest and most (in my opinion) epic season

[@bread6325]

End of season 3 broke my mind ngl when i was younger

[@shanecorcoran2542]

Season 2’s ending left me sad as a kid, but I remember this season’s ending completely left me speechless. I genuinely had no clue what to think and if they didn’t show the group being saved by the Fugitoid I probably would have thought the show was over. Such an insane ending I love it

[@AvatarAidan]

Season 4 was meant to be the final season of the 2012 series, but Nick wanted more episode, so they were made to make Season 5 and there was argument over a series of episodes in Season 5, wheither it was canon or not by the team and nickelodeon, also episodes 11-17 of Season 5 aired on Nicktoons and not Nickelodeon. Anyway Great Video, love the finale of Season 3.

[@JPkerVideo]

2012 and 2003 being my favorites... I love how 2012 is kind of childish at first, and then pulls a clone wars card later on...

[@dhazard1976]

The farm arch is great. The comics were cool, and they kept pretty close to it. I was not crazy about them changing to Raph (in the movie), but it is great for it's take. I also love how they homages 80s horror movies (hello Jason and hi to Robert England). r

[@QuantumZer-0]

Your gonna love season 4 finale, it’s the best part hands down.

[@markandrew287]

Honestly the finale of Season 2 and the beginning of Season 3 was something I found pretty neat as a kid. My big brother likes the first live action 1990 movie of the Turtles the best, so we watched that film a fair bit, so when the finale of Season 2 and the beginning of Season 3 for TMNT 2012 aired I was like "oh, holy SHIT, they DID reference the movie, that's neat!"

[@franciso-y3241]

The finale was so scary in my opinion with the world being destroyed

[@patrickstyle24816]

I personally feel that Seth Green does a much better job at voicing Leo, especially as the show progresses.

[@shanecorcoran2542]

I always thought he could show more emotion than Jason. Jason got the quirky and hyper side of Leo perfectly, but I doubt he would have been able to pull off the emotion-filled Leo moments that Seth did so well. Imo, the switch couldn’t have come at a better time

[@DanielKariuki-er5gi]

1:55 I think that's hilarious how they actually acknowledge the fact that his voice is different and in my opinion that was a good explanation for why he sounds different.

[@Theodore574]

The whole leos va changing threw me for a loop because im greek and when the episode aired that line got translated and that's about it the va didn't change just did a different inflection is the right word i think. Very interesting to hear

[@SPYROSTSABOURIS]

I remember absolutely loving the space arc as a kid

[@misterniceguy429]

So Nickelodeon had issues with using Jason Biggs in TMNT, but they were perfectly fine with having Dan Schneider produced multiple shows for the network and was secretly being abusive and creepy around his staff and crew, and had been doing it for years. Don’t even get me started with John K.

[@alexandreturcotte6411]

This is the season where I got back on the show as a kid/teen (or at least I got back to watch and record the episodes). I thought Mondo Gecko was made for the 2012 series (and the time travel stuff as well) as it was my first direct exposure to him. Leo in his fantasy gear hits hard, ngl. 2012 series fugitoid, my beloved.

[@atavious2491]

If this season had quite the deal with time travel, I would've definitely loved to see the 2012 series do their own version of "Same As It Never Was" where either Donatello or all four turtles go to an alternate reality where they are forced to fight evil doppelgangers of themselves or even worse, krang mutant monsters of themselves who serve the krang. In my opinion, that would definitely have been a good pay off to all the backstory that we have been getting thus far and probably would've made the Turtles look like powerful religious figures had the story gone in that direction. It would have basically served as a metaphor for choosing your own path and destiny while also showing the protagonists a virtual what if vision had the bad guys always won and if the heroes were never born. I feel like that's what's been missing in time travel stories today. A reason for why the main characters exist and are given the life and purpose they have. Without the main characters in their lives, the world they currently inhabit would be totally chaotic. Everyone who is born or created is important in each and their own way and contribute to the ongoing cycle that is life. Now when you equate the multiverse in there, that's when everything gets corrupt and all fabrics of realities get destroyed. Anyone you once knew and loved ceases to exist and the whole world around you as you once knew it disappears into nothingness. Almost as if life itself never happened at all. How nihilistically philosophical is that. In fiction, we the authors, filmmakers, show runners and artists are the gods and creators of these worlds. We have the power to both create and destroy.

[@marioluigi3122]

Wait, why didn’t the 2012 series do its own version of SAINW?

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

Fox News caused Leo's voice shift? Kinda feels like Fox were salty Nickelodeon ripped the Turtles rights from them and made it far bigger than the 4kids show ever was, as good as it was back then.

[@kurtadams9740]

I forgot this channel existed

[@TheSultan1470]

Cool, I wish so too

[@calvinmatthews1527]

I always thought the 1990 film did the Farmhouse arc best. The gang gets to rest from defeat, they bond, and a lot of significant things happen in a reasonable amount of time. But yes, while I do like this season, I do feel there was a lot more filler episodes. Season 4 is definitely good, but there is a lot you have to get though.

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

I agree with the pacing issues, and I can already guess what your take on the space arch will be haha

[@Princess36621]

I wonder what would have happened if Donnie got an arc similar to Leo's depression arc in the 2003 cartoon and actually stopped shipping Donnie and April.

[@austinmanriquez4785]

12:01 it's simple really, bigfoot is a sasquach 😂

[@benjaminnewlon7865]

The car episode scared me SO MUCH when I was little

[@thetheorizermoore7476]

I’m making a fan fic to continue on this show and add more stuff into it

[@WindowsillC.D.]

Ooo! Can you send me a link when you do? (If you feel comfortable with that.)

[@lil_jay7926]

Lowkey would want to see the fanfic animated

[@BienSwinginbase]

That was the only TMNT I kinda remember along with the old movies bossman.

[@rprfl4mezyt964]

Vision quest will always be my favorite episode

[@DanielKariuki-er5gi]

0:41 the first time I ever saw the heroes lose was when I first saw Avengers Infinity War I was only 9 back then I was so shocked I've never seen that before but at least there was a happy ending in Endgame. (Except for Iron Man, Black Widow, Vision, and Hawkeye of course)

[@patrickstyle24816]

Season four is my favorite season of the show, so I'm excited to see what you think of it

[@bowserbreaker2515]

I wish they kept Dominic Catrambone. He sounded like Jason Biggs, and even if Seth Green was good, it was better to just keep the guy that sounded like the original voice.

[@Thunderman-2001]

I do see one hiccup on this. Why didn't the Kraang tell Shredder where their lair is during the time at the farm house? Because you feel they would, making a story where Shredder is waiting forcing them to fight, eventually forcing them to retreat and find a new lair.

[@marioluigi3122]

Just like what happened in the 03 series

[@ThyBigCheddar]

Probably because that wasn't part of the deal.

[@marioluigi3122]

@@ThyBigCheddar that hasn’t stopped Shredder before

[@starnblack09]

So I like the og voice acter Jason Biggs a good voice

[@AndreK33]

One change I would have made to the Mondo Gecko episode is involve the Mighty Mutanimals. The Mutanimals along with Muckman show up along with the Turtles and April. Fishface who is a sore loser calls in the villain audience to take the Turtles down. A big fight ensues that’s similar to Metalhead Rewired where there’s a big battle Royale with the Turtles, April and Casey, The Mutanimals, and Mondo fight against the evil mutants and humans . The Turtles defeat the Villains and The Mutanimals take in Mondo Gecko who befriends Muckman.

[@hankunis2051]

I Didn't even realize Leonardo had a change in voice actor because of how less noticable it was. If that was the case then it was a great transition.

[@Powertoninetynine]

Season four is wild wait for the ending

[@skootergirl22]

You should check out super robot monkey team hyperforce go, its connected to TMNT 2012 since it was created by ciro, not just directed. it also has the same VAs from TMNT 2012 AND TTG

[@Evixyn]

Season three is heavily good, especially the ending. I was heavily shocked the way the team did splinter and we have to respect shredder for going through with his goal no matter what. That is heavily respected in my opinion. Season four I can not remember to much as it was over a decade old that this point but I do love the new love interest for Ralph. I believe season four might had something to do with the shredder being completely gone which lead up to the aftermath of season five. I could be incorrect about that.

[@sonder420]

Interesting thing of note is turtles in time was a band wide marketing synergy push. Everything did a time travel besides the game. Such as the movie, the cartoon and the comic. Second thing of interest is the homage to horror. Savini being the name of an actor who worked on many movies. The puke monster the creep has the name vorhees on his overalls.

[@DanielKariuki-er5gi]

13:51 Is it just me or do Hamato and Oroku (A.K.A Splinter and Shredder) look exactly the same.

[@adi_movic]

I feel like the farm house episodes are necessary to give their defeat some impact. I don't think it would have had the same impact if they returned to New York after two episodes. I really liked the fact that they had to recover from it and prepare for their return to New York. Yeah sure maybe you could cut the Big Foot episode, I don't like it anyway and Leo could've stayed in coma for a few episodes to give them a plausible reason to stay there, but otherwise I think it's kind of necessary. Also, I really dig the horror references. As a kid, I didn't get them but I enjoyed them a lot nonetheless. Now rewatching it I know the originals and it's even more fun, I wouldn't wanna miss them

[@shanecorcoran2542]

100% agree with you here. I’d say at least 5 or 6 of the farmhouse episodes were necessary. Really needed them to show how impactful their defeat at the end of last season was. Cut Bigfoot, Frogs, and mayyybe the dream beavers one and I’d say you’ve got a perfect arc there

[@SWESB5]

Weirdly enough on Prime Video “the invasion” was a single episode when it was also a part 2

[@adambarnes49]

The episode where the turtles finally beat the krang and save new York was great but it took me a bit of time to realise that was mostly it for the kraang coz I'm pretty sure they still existed they weren't wiped out by the end of that episode,did they not try to take over again? Or did they give up or what?

[@This-is-yoAeolus]

I feel Seth green is the only one who could’ve pulled of Leo in dark moments like when Leo killed shredder

[@TheRavenArchon]

Season 3 is my favorite season till Season 5. Yeah it still has pacing and filler issues - something which plagued 2012 series till their last season - but it also has some of the best highs of the series. Frankly I loved the farm house episodes. I always felt 2003 didn't spend _enough_ time on Leo's recovery. Leo gets the crap kicked out of him and is basically dead, but then he sleeps it off in a single episode. It always bothered me that it didn't feel impactful enough after the fight that led to him being in that condition spanned two or three episodes. With 2012 they actually spend time showing him getting better, not just physically but emotionally. It reminded me of his arc in the 2003 series where his shell is cracked and he feels like a failure and Splinter ends up sending him away to get help. The brothers also did a ton of bonding during their stay at the farmhouse which I think was really needed because sometimes they came off a little harsh with each other previously. Sometimes even felt like they were just bullying Mikey.

[@psychedelicsunshine]

I get the need to replace Leo, but replacing a well known R actor with a much more famous R actor is so funny