What Makes The Evangelion Rebuilds Controversial? (Review)

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ReturningSun

ReturningSun

Күн бұрын

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@Flame.island
@Flame.island 4 ай бұрын
The rebuilds and just Evangelion as a whole has impacted and changed my life so much to a point to where I wrote my senior thesis on its representation, so when anyone talks about it on the internet I automatically feel connected to them weirdly. This was an outstanding video to watch, and as a fan of your disappearance of Haruhi review as well, I’m excited to see what you talk about next. Your channel is awesome, it deserves so much more attention
@jujuhoon6640
@jujuhoon6640 2 ай бұрын
Ehehhe thesis
@NelsonStJames
@NelsonStJames 4 ай бұрын
The rebuilds just make me happy for Anno, because it's evident that the man who helmed the rebuilds is not the man who made the original Evangelion, but it's also evident that the man who made the rebuilds is a happier more content person than the man who made Evangelion. Whatever he found between the time he started Evangelion and finished with 3.0 I wish you could bottle it because I think most of us could definitely use a little bit of it.
@MJDahling
@MJDahling 7 күн бұрын
It was money.
@Matthias333
@Matthias333 4 ай бұрын
Kaworu will always be best girl. Nice video and welcome to the eva fanatics club, you're now here forever.
@forpdrop3793
@forpdrop3793 4 ай бұрын
I think the 4th rebuild movie is so good that it almost makes the rebuild movies worth it
@ReturningSunn
@ReturningSunn 4 ай бұрын
😭😭😭 (I will say it’s one of the biggest highlights for me)
@8johh
@8johh 3 ай бұрын
the 2nd one was fantastic too
@TheTrueRandomGamer
@TheTrueRandomGamer 2 ай бұрын
So bad it's good, maybe.
@novalegion2280
@novalegion2280 2 ай бұрын
the second one is the best by far
@jo0rd73
@jo0rd73 2 ай бұрын
I personally definitely prefer the rebuild movies to the original, they feel a lot more coherent and somewhat more optimistic? A pity that when I recommend them you kinda need to watch the original Evangelion and end of Eva first to truly appreciate it….
@rona0427
@rona0427 4 ай бұрын
Rebuild will always be my favorite from the series; to me it shows growth and offers a more palpable and interesting take on the themes from the original series. It might be because I hold no nostalgia for the original series, but the rebuild series had a much more satisfying ending, which is by in part due to Anno healing as a person.
@ReturningSunn
@ReturningSunn 4 ай бұрын
I will say, The fourth movie does show a lot of the maturity and healing Anno has gained over the years, and I find that to be the most beautiful part about these films. :)
@onojioboardwalk9748
@onojioboardwalk9748 Ай бұрын
@@ReturningSunn O-ook - I was willing to give your video a chance but you clearly desperately want to spew ''Ovesexualized'' and be sjw - And your opinion stopped 'Mattering' the moment you did that, no matter how tourists feel about Mari etc. +
@timb4297
@timb4297 Ай бұрын
​@@onojioboardwalk9748 nah I like the rebuilds but it is a bit oversexualised some angles etc just didn't have to be or weren't really necessary thats just a fact
@onojioboardwalk9748
@onojioboardwalk9748 Ай бұрын
@@timb4297 .. It is milk-toast bare minimum affection that this character shinji finally encounters in Mari, Instead of suffering and terror - Not ''Oversexualized''-anything unless one is like 7 years old and is trapped like a serf in an sjw home. The extra angels etc ive already covered before in ways too well articulated for those looking to be offended at the slightest first-world things and ''Problems'' or for bot accounts to understand. And thats an actual fact. +
@timb4297
@timb4297 Ай бұрын
@@onojioboardwalk9748 I'm not talkin specifically about mari I'm talking about all the girls its not a good thing bro if you like to see it or something idk bro but its still a bit weird it doesn't make the story worse yes but does it really benefit the story
@wibuelite6080
@wibuelite6080 11 күн бұрын
I seen many people hating the rebuild and idk why they do it.But for me rebuild is just masterpiece seeing shinji talk to his father and try to understand it.Seeing him growing up and actually accepting himself.AND of course seeing him had a good ending is definitely a wholesome moment.The rebuild definitely want to tell the audience to wake up from the fake world.Just like the scene when the surrounding of shinji and mari become "real life". Basically the rebuild tell most of the fandom to touch some grass
@AsherTeal
@AsherTeal 4 ай бұрын
Fighting the urge to start my evangelion video essay with "Neon Genesis..Evangelion..."
@TapaniLastellar
@TapaniLastellar 4 ай бұрын
Rebuild Kaworu was the best version
@ReturningSunn
@ReturningSunn 4 ай бұрын
Now THIS I agree with!
@trolledfrog678
@trolledfrog678 2 ай бұрын
I personally liked the rebuilds more than EoE because it felt like shinji actually grew as a person and wasn’t constantly infuriating. He accepted his flaws and ultimately saved the world as a result, wereas in EoE, the world is fucked but “hey atleast he knows how to love himself”.
@keaton5101
@keaton5101 2 ай бұрын
end of evangelion is a separate ending to the tv series. he didnt even learn to love himself in that one
@Omni798
@Omni798 3 ай бұрын
To be honest this may be my favorite review of these films i've seen! Im obsessed with Evangelion as a whole, and i adore the rebuilds almost as much as i adore Neon Genesis. While End of Eva is my favoirte installment in the series and my favoirte film, 3.0+1.0 comes as a close second and is extremely personal to me. All that said, i loved how you broke down the issues these films have. They are far from perfect and i found myself egreeing on so much you said, especially in your take on 3.0. They are complicated films, with a lot to love and a lot to be disappointed with. Even still, i hold them very near my heart, much more than you seem to. It's cool how we had essentially the same expereince with these movies but different overall feelings towards them. Thank you for the in deoth review, its refreshing to see somone with a nuanced take and not just the same reiterations of "flawless" and "dogshit" that seem so popular in reference to these films.
@bouncycow3010
@bouncycow3010 4 ай бұрын
Ooooh this will be fun to watch. Loved the original series although not a big fan of the rebuilds, I'm looking forwards to seeing what you think of them :D
@ReturningSunn
@ReturningSunn 4 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy the video more at least! 😁
@WNPamasaGG
@WNPamasaGG 4 ай бұрын
I almost totally agree with you... Especially about Mari... :') And the one that I must be disagree with you is........ Because you like Rei more than Asuka.... 😆
@TheLocalW
@TheLocalW 4 ай бұрын
A video on the rebuild series. Let's go!
@ReturningSunn
@ReturningSunn 4 ай бұрын
Yessirrrrr!
@keenon8423
@keenon8423 4 ай бұрын
Me personally the rebuilds are great with animation and scenery but the og imo was just better with the characters fleshing out and what truly made it great was the representation of mental health and how the characters coped with their trauma or everyday struggles and the end of evangelion just imo perfected what I said with the series I liked the psyche of the characters in the og while the rebuilds are decent I will always prefer the og , but the rebuilds are a different timeline so I get it I don’t despite but the og will always be better to me
@Smitty_Werbenjagermanjensen111
@Smitty_Werbenjagermanjensen111 2 ай бұрын
My intro to Evangelion was seeing skrillex’s scary monsters and nice sprites video in high school and fell in love with Evangelion since 🤩. I ended up watching the movies then the tv series but I can’t help but like some of the changes to the EVAs designs. I went out of my way to buy the PG Eva 01 cause I love the tv version 😍.
@whitemale2230
@whitemale2230 Ай бұрын
The inclusion of the airship stuff is a reference to Nadia: Secret of Blue Water and the airship in that series. The track that plays when the Wunder is first launched in 3.0, “The Anthem”, is a remix of the track that plays for the airship in Nadia.
@DangericeDreams
@DangericeDreams 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, I’ve *never* been a fan of Mech animes. I never had interest in Gundam or Gurren Lagann, but Evangelion, despite being a mech anime, always captured my attention growing up. With such a strong emotional base, I can see why people love it so much.
@SpinSurgery
@SpinSurgery Ай бұрын
Hated 3.33 for the many years when we were put on pause waiting for Final to be released, but once it finally came out and the series was complete, 3.33 suddenly fit into the bigger picture so much better.
@yurkdawg
@yurkdawg 4 ай бұрын
I once heard the rebuild movies described as "Neon Genesis Evangelion on mood stabilizers" 😜
@HeavenPericehwe
@HeavenPericehwe 4 ай бұрын
This channel is so underrate
@toriotgirl
@toriotgirl 3 ай бұрын
Interestingly enough, watching Devil Man with an old friend who LOVED Eva for a long time was what got me into it. I read that so many instances from Devil Man had Eva and Berserk influence and cameos. When I looked at the MASSIVE list of great anime that all listed Evangelion as an inspiration-I had to watch it. And that’s why it’s considered the first “real” anime, blurring children’s media with heavy themes.
@raymondyee2008
@raymondyee2008 Ай бұрын
True story from a cosplayer who did both the original series Shinji and then the remake Shinji and Rei Plugsuits; now I do have feelings for both but unfortunately I felt that the second half of the Rebuild movies went right down the tubes story wise. Sure the Plugsuits in the Rebuild were every Cosplayer’s dream but that’s all there was to it: the fanservice. In hindsight remakes aren’t exactly a good idea if you’re just reinventing the wheel.
@taylorknight5702
@taylorknight5702 Ай бұрын
I feel like going through these stories without the context of each one taking into consideration how long the timeline is
@zerolux4323
@zerolux4323 4 ай бұрын
as much as i like both the original and the rebuilds, i prefer the rebuilds more as it seems more flushed out, easier to follow and unlike EoE, its not unnecessarily 'violent' and not as strange (yes, im talking about THE hospital scene and misato kissing shinji)
@soldadopudim3859
@soldadopudim3859 4 ай бұрын
I feel sad that you didn't like one of my favorite part of the movies and the vibes that gives. Aside of that, Great video! I am a very new fan of evagelion, so i waited not so much time to get to view the rebuild, i mean, i did not understood the original series and if not the rebuilds movies, that have a very more explict message, i was about to have a nihilistic view forever. (English is not my mother language)
@FuzzyRebuilder
@FuzzyRebuilder 4 ай бұрын
my favorite part was in 3.0+1.0 where shinji achieved Neon Genesis: Evangelion
@nullified60
@nullified60 4 ай бұрын
I love the rebuilds, and 3.0+1.0 is definitely my favorite. Personally it connected the most with me, especially the ending with real footage. Its just something special to me
@dafnesaenz1617
@dafnesaenz1617 2 ай бұрын
Evangelion will always be parts of who I am. It was the first anime I saw when I was 10 because my uncle had a pirated copy of death and rebirth and I had never seen something so cool. It launched me into a whole new world of anime, Japanese culture, video games and cosplay. I know I would of been a very different person if it weren’t for Evangelion. I hold it very near to my heart. That being said, I enjoyed the rebuild movies, they can have their issues but so did the original, as a matter of fact I always felt like they talked to much lol. I feel so lucky the creator re told the same story after 20 years but with a more mature point of view. A what if… I appreciate the movies for what they are.
@MarioLanzas.
@MarioLanzas. 3 ай бұрын
For me the Rebuild movies don't really offer anything new besides some cool looking scenes. Even the ¨more hopeful/ redemption finale for the characters¨ argument doesn't make sense to me, because the original series already did that. Even the End of Evangelion, as bleak as it is, also lowkey had the same hopeful message. The Rebuild only does it in a more in-you-face way.
@Irishwillmooney
@Irishwillmooney 2 ай бұрын
Co-sign this.
@AnuKYT742
@AnuKYT742 4 ай бұрын
So the mari is actually Anno's wife who came up from nowhere did nothing but heal the depression for him. So anno made her appear on his anime❤ other than that its still sucks😂😂
@Narko_Marko
@Narko_Marko 2 ай бұрын
When I first saw evangelion a couple of years back I kinda hated it because it was boring as heck, villain of the week structure made me not really care about what is going on because it's predictable. Literally nothing in the world of NGE changes until EoE, every angel is destroyed with minimal losses, I know it's a character centric story and it's their development that matters but it really doesn't feel that way with how the show is structured. End of Evangelion did hit me and left me with the message "go touch grass". Since I was disappointed I didn't watch the movies until a year or two later, the first one was ok since its just the first 8 episodes but the next day I was blown away by how drastically they changed the story in the second one and I binged the rest and was once again left with the message "go touch grass" but this time it lingered longer and was also more hopeful than what EoE left me with. Then I rewatched NGE and was bored again, might work if I try again in a couple of years.
@andarerYT
@andarerYT Ай бұрын
The "rumours" aren't like that, Anno wanted to tell the gap between 2 and 3 (which is what originally was going to be film 3 to start with), but he didn't want to do that himself, so he'd be happy if someone else in the team took that project and made it live. And saying that Evangelion is Anno's work is quite shallow, everyone involved in the project had a lot of input in it and many things that are loved today weren't in Anno's initial plans or even were against his initial view.
@ToneSherpa
@ToneSherpa Ай бұрын
they just aren't that good. they aren't terrible or anything. but they truncate all of the best stuff from the show, which is a lot of the character stuff. while adding a bunch of unnecessary stuff that just doesn't add much. there's a lot of shouting exposition/technobabble about weird things that I have no idea what they are even talking about. like, why are characters verbalizing these things in this way? it's sloppy. particalarly the last movie's climax. and the animation often looks like a terrible CGI mess of bullshit. and that new chick with the glasses kind of sucks.
@Cuti3J
@Cuti3J 4 ай бұрын
The rebuilds are closure I wanted the films have an impact on me because it’s like saying goodbye and I’m happy with that I would much rather have a 3.0+1.0 then the end of Evangelion the end of Evangelion is an amazing film and I think it’s probably better but in the sense of closure Evangelion 3.0+1.0 takes that place and I’m happy to say Evangelion rebuilds are perfect
@SpinSurgery
@SpinSurgery Ай бұрын
Dear lord! What did Mari ever do to you! 😂
@MrKaji010
@MrKaji010 4 ай бұрын
Eva manga >>>>>
@Cruzbotix
@Cruzbotix 4 ай бұрын
33:33 she's actually talking about Yui my dude..
@thekerminator6521
@thekerminator6521 3 ай бұрын
I just finished the Evangelion Manga and I think that’s gonna be my definitive version of Eva. I’m curious what you think about the manga
@forpdrop3793
@forpdrop3793 4 ай бұрын
Also yea the 3rd movie sucks except for Kaworu!!!
@bi11lietsuki
@bi11lietsuki 3 ай бұрын
the original show (+ the end of evangelion) and the rebuilds, i love them both equally. they are different universes that are both canon and original in their own way
@mercenaryknight5419
@mercenaryknight5419 Ай бұрын
I love the Rebuild movies, well, 1-3 that is: 1.11 You Are Not Alone (2007), 2.22 You Cannot Advance (2009), & 3.33 You Are Not Alone (2012). While they are not as great as the series and original movies (Death And Rebirth & End Of Evangelion) they are still a masterful trilogy that kept the spirit of the original alive, as well as the meaning of moving forward despite overwhelming odds and strife. I will defend them to the death. 3.0+1.0 was very unsatisfying to me for many reasons. It really wasted an opportunity for Shinji, Rei, and Asuka to bond in the wasteland for at least half an hour as promised at the end of 3.33. The "wanderers" thing comes out of left field. Rei Q's death was so out of left field and we are given so little time for impact, plus it makes little sense. Rei dies, we hardly see Shinji's reaction, we get like 5 seconds, and then in a cutaway he is primed to confront Will-E, it is so rushed. Asuka goes out way too easily. The lack of SEELE was very noticeable. The plot points in the last half get really over the top, especially with the whole "imaginary Eva" thing which still is so asinine and to the creation of the new spear which comes off as a major deus ex machina. Kaji being killed OFFSCREEN was such a disappointment and we hardly get any time to spend with him and Misato's son. The way Kaji comes back in the finale is so ridiculous I could not take it seriously either. It is also a *crying shame* that Rei gets SIDELINED in this movie, after how important her character was in the previous 3 movies, after Rei Q dies the original Rei gets less than 3 minutes with 2 scenes which is just so insulting to her character. To top it off, the whole "neon genesis" plot point is just so cheap and lazy, plus it contradicts the message of the last film as Shinji essentially runs away from his problems by creating a new world via a *total reset* where he essentially WISHES ALL HIS PROBLEMS AWAY. Which is the very thing 3.33 said in no uncertain terms is IMPOSSIBLE and effectively punishes him for. Also, a lot of visuals in the finale were rehashed from End Of Evangelion. Basically, the ending feels like Anno just gave up and wanted the thing over. The passion was not there anymore. The fact the movie went through development hell, unlike the previous 3 entries, is quite visible. I would love to have seen the original version before all the chaos that got Anno to rework the project so much. On a more positive note. Probably the closest we will ever get to the original version of the finale is through the Japan Animator Expo (2014) short Anno produced and wrote called *Until You Come To Me.* Have you seen it? It does what 3.0+1.0 does much better in mere minutes, in my view. Makes for a nice epilogue to 3.33. Plus, there are two other Evangelion animated short films from the 2014 Japan Animator Expo that serve as epilogues to Rebuild 1 and 2. Them being *Neon Genesis Impacts* which happens mainly after 1.11 and *Another Impact-Confidential* which is set between 2.22 and 3.33. Seen them? If not, I highly recommend them, RS.
@arulkws
@arulkws 2 ай бұрын
i might be wrong but i think he doesn't like marie guys, i don't know tho
@langustajableczna
@langustajableczna 3 ай бұрын
my fav version is the original anime with it's ending, it's perfect. In eoe I like Rei and her development and impact + gendo's head being bit off. Rebuilds bastardised the vast majority of the characters and their complexities, coherency, implications, motives, metaphores, and narrative impact.
@jeffjeff9562
@jeffjeff9562 4 ай бұрын
Do you think youll do a video on the chainsaw man manga
@ReturningSunn
@ReturningSunn 4 ай бұрын
Maybe in the future. Probably not anytime soon though
@strawhatjosh5691
@strawhatjosh5691 4 ай бұрын
Richard…
@ReturningSunn
@ReturningSunn 4 ай бұрын
Josh….
@qizeaqfile
@qizeaqfile 3 ай бұрын
I understand thoroughly what the original Evangelion is about, that's why I'll forever hate it. The Rebuild movies, especially 1.0 and 2.0 give a different perspective and route of the story, that's why to me those two movies is the only Evangelion movies I need to watch. The ending of trying to save a girl even the result of destroying the world is fine by me. I know that 3.0 is made to undermine people who love 2.0 ending but the story is soo far off from 2.0, it doesn't really matter even it's canon or not. To me Evangelion is just Rebuild 1.0 and 2.0, everything else just irrelevant to me as I don't really care about "author intention" My own enjoyment is the only thing I need.
@jorgearetakis9688
@jorgearetakis9688 4 ай бұрын
This part of the film nobody gives sinjhi any answers is a characteristically depressive acenario, to represent the confusion the character feels and all .... i get that you dont get it but that's it.
@ReturningSunn
@ReturningSunn 4 ай бұрын
It’s still stupid even with that explanation.
@dafnesaenz1617
@dafnesaenz1617 2 ай бұрын
I feel very similar to your comment. Can you imagine waking up 15 years later after going to sleep, it would be very strange and confusing. I feel they recreated that feeling pretty on point.
@rimzaaah5892
@rimzaaah5892 2 ай бұрын
12:12
@MM-gp9mb
@MM-gp9mb 2 ай бұрын
Most overrated series tbh. I just finished it and it was literally a chore to watch. So dragged out and boring all for it to be a dream at the end. Why tf do yall like this
@micu8942
@micu8942 Ай бұрын
i don't really like it either but wdym it was a dream? nowhere did it reveal it was a dream? did we watch the same show?
@MM-gp9mb
@MM-gp9mb Ай бұрын
@@micu8942 Remember at the end everything went to normal and nothing that took place really mattered
@micu8942
@micu8942 Ай бұрын
@@MM-gp9mb still never was a dream tho? Shinji just reset the world so that it never had eva's
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