WHAT OCD, DEPRESSION & ANXIETY ARE REALLY LIKE / Gaby & Allison

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[@MarkThePage]

At least for me, depression is like putting a numb hand on a hot stove. You don't feel pain, which is great, but also you really, probably should.

[@MarkThePage]

What I mean is, I feel invincible because I rarely register physical or emotional pain, but that also means I don't fully notice when an event or behavior is harmful to me in the long run. Pain is a useful feeling because it hastens and elevates responses to problems. A lot of depressed people don't process urgency properly when necessary (lack of energy, for example). Hopefully that clarifies.

[@hajarmdn4883]

MarkThePage this is the best way I've seen that I can describe my depressive state. I just feel numb all over, im not sad but I'm not happy either. I just don't want to do anything and I feel emptiness, even empathy and sympathy for others leaves me and I just don't care. I may have important exams but I could just decide hey I'm not gonna study and I'm not even going to go. And it's physically impossible for me to do so because my body ends up going limp. Therapy and medication unfortunately didn't help much and so far the only thing that made me get out of the state a bit is moving out and living alone in a dorm which forced me at least to make tea for myself instead of thinking of waiting for someone to bring it to me, and adopting a cat and a hamster that forced to get out of my bed everyday. My cat will wake me up every morning and not allow me to go back to sleep until I clean his litter box, give him fresh food and water and go down to the yard with him because he's scared from the other strays that live in my dorm. So by then, I'm awake enough and sometimes even take a book down with me to read while I watch him run around and chase birds. He's been the best therapy I've gotten and I've been in therapy and under medication for 3 years now.

[@tutunepan492]

mine is horrible it comes with physical pain and sleeplessness

[@TheMariaMEEP]

this sounds like a quote from a book

[@BeqaQueue]

I get numb like that too. :(

[@bluebubble926]

"When were you diagnosed" will be my new answer to people's "totally OCD" comments.

[@sydfeta12]

Same!

[@hycron1234]

"When were you diagnosed" _"just recently by __google.com__"_

[@bluebubble926]

QUEENDOM For sure. Definitely not the right reply for every person

[@tutunepan492]

an OCD person can be as messy as the stereotypical clean ones ....not realizing the obsessive thoughts and actions that is the true OCD part..... people also don't realize that there are OCD and OCDP

[@rollingwaves1290]

I've seen a bunch of people on Tumblr to claim it's ok to go by your self-diagnosis if you can't/ don't want to go to the doctor for some reason. I can see how it could work in some cases but as a universal strategy it sounds slightly dangerous - there's a reason why people don't do it with other kinds of illnesses.

[@June26Brown]

I love this new show. You both kept the comedy, just added depth. I can actually take away things to better myself as an individual. Thank you.

[@ShaynainShambles]

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[@thisismyusername4569]

yes!

[@thebeggs4]

Hey, it's that lady from the audience of "The Bachelor: The Women Tell All!" Seriously though, thanks as always for discussing mental health, Allison and Gaby. Important stuff, and it's so often not taken seriously enough, and worse yet, stigmatised. You're both fantastic advocates!

[@freshhcorduroy9707]

I screamed Allison! When I saw her haha.

[@docteurshepherd]

I second that, I feel so alone sometimes with my OCD, anxiety and depression. But now I have Allison and Gaby as role models along with my best friend who also has the same mental health issues I do.

[@jameswilliamjacob7216]

I have spent months investigating treating anxiety naturally and discovered an awesome resource at Aghy magic method (google it if you're interested)

[@SageGarlandSingerSongwriter]

Talking about mental illness is not always being an advocate or breaking through stigma. They sat and judged and diminished other people's problems for a good portion of it and then victim blamed people with mental health issues who aren't "helping themselves." Don't just compliment them. Hold them to higher standards.

[@gcn9]

Allison: "See, I'm not nervous to talk to people. I just don't want to." Oh how I can relate...

[@TheMariaMEEP]

the story of my entire life

[@TheAgentAssassin]

Yeah but are you 'officially diagnosed" yet? Apparently you're "lucky the clown joy tits" until you get officially diagnosed.

[@jacquiz.6837]

And now it's revealed that JBU shoots a bunch of episodes at once. Or that Igor is wearing that coat every day now.

[@Rita-kx3yr]

It's both. Igor is the coat.

[@ghost.9758]

igor recently found god. this is his god coat.

[@ashleypechin2066]

its his coat of colors

[@tainamilanese7594]

it's his never used tongue prank coat

[@katiemarie6664]

Igor and the Technicolor Dreamcoat

[@Moistplinth]

Getting help for mental health issues is so much about having the actual will and desire. When you really don't see the point in anything, when you're in a bad way and you know it, I would think that that is when it is MOST difficult to get help because in that headspace literally what is the point in getting help if you have no concept of there being a point to anything

[@BobO-iv8kj]

It's tough for sure. I know I get random spurts of energy/happiness some days, I think those are the times that would be best to get help. Can't speak for everyone else though.

[@TheSirDominic]

I get where Allison is coming from when she's talking about going to the doctor for mental illness, but I don't have the financial luxury to do so, so getting to a level where breakdowns have given way to numbness has been a hard and sometimes physically painful road. Numbness should not be my status quo but when you work 40 hours a week at a minimum wage job and have to pay bills and help support your family you don't get the luxury of seeing professionals or seeing a doctor or even doing text therapy (which btw is like 30 dollars a session which I need for gas and food). I'm glad that you understand that you're being harsh but please try to understand that you also come from a place of privilege as well.

[@Raya-xw5ud]

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[@midorishiwa]

You should move to Canada or Europe. Free healthcare! Also, there are places out there where you can see someone for free. It's hard to find, it's hard to get in, but it may be worth giving it a shot. Also your GP can prescribe you antidepressants or something. If you ever see them for any other reason you can just put this on the table and be like "hey, I really feel like shit, I want to die, help me!". By the way, I don't mean this in a judgmental way, I totally get where you're coming from, American healthcare system is horrible. And I know it's hard to actively go around and spend time looking for some outlet when you are depressed. I live in a country where healthcare is free and it still takes me forever to just pick up my phone and book an appointment.

[@ManarAlMasoud]

thank you!!

[@divyasasidharan2960]

I know she kinda spoke like a privileged idiot. Not only many places don't have good therapies but actually experiment on u like an animal they r expensive n out of pocket, children can't earn enough to get that help if parents don't recognize the issue, also there is the worthless feeling that can take over before one realizes that they r sick n don't think it's worth to save their lives. There is risk with talking about mental health online like that with the current political scenario where they r demonizing mental health issues.

[@TheSirDominic]

Divya Sasidharan I wouldn't go so far as to call her names but I agree with you. I'm a queer individual in a small border town with a very conservative mindset , the one time I went to a counselor (note: not a therapist, and was mandated after my first suicide scare ) and talked about being gay the first thing he brought up was that I should be careful with HIV/AIDS.

[@TodayJustMe]

I can relate to the way Gaby describes depression so much

[@janinemuspratt-williams8551]

mintgreenclarity Same here

[@jamesmason7979]

It's one of the best ways that I've seen it articulated. Especially the physical pain aspect of it.

[@udeludeludel2787]

just wanted to add that there are mental illnesses/disorders that include as a symptome that the patient is convinced everything's fine and there's nothing wrong with them, especially personality disorders. also it isn't easy to seek help if people devaluate your mental illness/disorder. BUT, nevertheless, i encourage everyone who reads this to take that step and talk to a professional.

[@Paulinemoke]

I think that middle part was maybe a little harsh. I really would have loved to see a discussion of how to get yourself to seek help when you have this weird relationship with your mind. In the beginning it is difficult (as you said) to differentiate between the you and the illness, which makes seeking help difficult. Don't you think you get mad because you want them to fix their illness, just like other people have sometimes wanted to do the same to you, just because the suffering is so darn pointless? Like, Allison, can you really blame people who cave and try to get off their meds after loved ones tell them they should because of their weight? You did amazing in self protection on that front, but you gotta admit that this kind of pressure can lead to some slip ups? However, I think you're right about the enabling part and how an awareness can create a kind of dwelling in the illness as well.

[@hajarmdn4883]

QUEENDOM easier said than done. Specifically in countries where people with mental health issues are shamed and ridiculed. It personally took me years to admit to myself that I have a problem and it took me hitting rock bottom to get my family to accept that I have a problem and need treatment

[@shelbystevens8600]

That’s what I was thinking too when she was saying that. I agree at a certain point it should come to that because nobody can force you to get better if you don’t try but it’s not that easy. There is still a big stigma surrounding mental illness and the very thing about mental illness is that you can’t just say okay I need to get over this. Like for example just with me, my anxiety and depression have gotten me to the point many times that I was afraid to talk to anyone, leave my house, go anywhere alone, or say anything about what I was going through because it was just too exhausting and it just felt hopeless anyways. So I don’t know. It made me cringe when she was like “I judge people who don’t get help, if they have KZbin, they have the resources to get help.”

[@snacker66]

Allison's attitude towards finding help really pisses me off. Like you said, you've never experienced the kind of crippling depression where you can't get out of bed or where you're in physical pain. You don't know how hard it is to seek out help when you're in that situation. Your mind doesn't work as clearly or logically as you seem to think it should.

[@ausernameisuseless]

I think she was trying to be positive and encouraging - although I understand how it can be perceived otherwise. That was her way of saying - there's a way out of this, you can do it. Especially cause her and Gaby know it has helped them tremendously.

[@lucians.4632]

yeah so not everyone has access to a (capable) doctor and therefore getting a diagnosis is not possible for many people. i get the intention of saying "when were you diagnosed" in the situation you described, but in general i think self-diagnosis is incredibly valid bc not everyone has access to good healthcare.

[@AcidRainbowSkies]

those apps that have therapy services aren't free Allison. internet is relatively cheap. my 3rd world country wage can't pay for therapy tbh

[@lindseyrem]

ironically watching this while being anxious !! watching the dog throughout this made me feel so calm

[@1daggeleden201]

I usually hate it when people are hard on me about my mental illness but with Allison I don't mind it. It even motivates me. I guess that's because she knows what it's like and knows how hard it actually is.

[@1daggeleden201]

QUEENDOM hahaha that's the right way to look at it. But most of the time they have a good intent

[@ellaleblanch9703]

Please don't underestimate how important this is ❤

[@kaymaya8338]

I'm so glad that Gaby mentioned families that may not be accepting about the idea of mental health diagnosis. But I don't have the resources to get help. I'm from a family that's abusive and i live in fear. But I know i have multiple issues: i'm depressed, I have anorexia etc. But my parents monitor almost everything I do and it's not good.

[@hy1684]

I hope you are safe now🙏

[@shelbystevens8600]

I don’t know that spreading an opinion that you judge people who don’t get help for their illness is exactly productive. There is already enough shame and pressure and self doubt, it’s not always as easy as “if they can watch our channel, they have the resources to get help.” I work hard on helping myself with my mental illness too, but I have also been at the point where I never thought it was possible and I had no idea where to even start to seek help. And because of that I would never judge someone that is drowning in the middle of it.

[@ginastone7297]

Thank you.

[@huffin_puff]

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[@Lisa_Flowers]

I definitely think it would have been more productive to acknowledge how difficult it can be and maybe focus on the small things you can slowly start doing to improve your mental health when you are at that point where you have no idea where to start, and even if you don't neccesarily have access to professional help. I think they should have acknowledged that not everyone is privelaged enough monetarily, support wise, or even emotionally to get to that point, and meet them where they are with their words instead of just lumping everyone into the 'doesn't want to deal with their illness' category.

[@shelbystevens8600]

Rocknalldatime99 YES exactly! ❤️ Like I understand at some point you can only really get better if you want it, but it is so not just like waking up and going “Oh I have depression! Let’s go to the doctor today!” I’m surprised these comments even made it into the video. I feel like people look to them as a duo that understands mental illness and doesn’t hold a stigma around it but instead they come across like, “Oh, you’re just lazy. Of course you have access, because I did.”

[@Lisa_Flowers]

Shelby Stevens It is strange. You would expect them to be more empathetic and more balanced having been there. If you have been in the situation and got out/got better, you should encourage people to get better, not chastise them for 'not trying' (or not trying as hard as you did) when you have no way of knowing if they really aren't. Maybe they're overgeneralizing their own experiences? To my understanding, everyones experience of an illness (any illness) is different. Mental illness seems no different. So you really can't say 'If i did it, and you haven't, you're not trying hard enough'. Any how, I hope in future they give tangible ways where anyone can start, even people who are as you said drowning in the middle of it. And i'd love tips on how to properly support people who are (without enabling/being insensitive) as someone who has personally never experienced it myself!

[@LS-ko5zq]

The idea that everyone has access to mental health care is just wrong. There are people without the economic resources, without support systems. There are valid reasons that someone wouldn't be able to get mental health care, and keep in mind that good therapy is expensive. I think the only thing worse than no therapy is bad therapy and that exists, especially with cheaper options. Allison that's just a very overall shitty thing to assert.

[@Raya-xw5ud]

Yes, this is so true. Thank you for saying it. There are also certain kinds of mental illnesses that very few therapists actually treat, or they might, to your point, not be good therapists and hold a lot of bias about people with those illnesses.

[@ManarAlMasoud]

that’s very true. thank you for commenting what i was thinking. i’m in that kind of situation now. i’m underage, living with shitty parents who don’t even believe mental illnesses exist and blame my mental illnesses and other issues on “lack of religion”. i have been struggling for years and i am very suicidal and i need help so badly but i can’t get any. the place i live in doesn’t even have many good therapists and clinics and they charge so fucking much. there’s so much stigma around even talking about mental health. it’s a very shitty situation. but i am trying. and continuing to try to live and cope in any way possible IS enough.

[@wishingonastarjar]

I agree that bad therapy is worse than no therapy. It traumatizes you to open up to someone like that and not be treated well. I have a hard time with therapy myself now after reaching out to therapists who werent equipped to deal with my cocktail of mental illness and honestly didnt even try to take the time to learn.

[@fallaciousjinx]

This is so important. I am living in a country where there's federal health insurance, therefore I do have access to therapy. My last attempt at therapy was almost five years ago - and it traumatized me so deeply that I still get sick, angry and anxious at the simple thought of putting myself through that again. I am happy for everybody to whom therapy is beneficial, but on my behalf, it scared me for life and nearly killed me (I've never been a suicidal person until that last therapy attempt) so for my own safety, I will never put myself through that again!

[@maddiecolormixmua9658]

I'm sorry you have to go through that! You should look into 7cups.com it's a chat/text site and although they don't offer free professional help (I just checked and it's $150 a month for unlimited messaging), they offer free help from volunteers on the site (some volunteers are better than others). I really hope life gets easier for you

[@strugglinreader1774]

My family is poor and they don't believe in mental illnesses all that much. What i do is work on things that i can work on and not focus too much on what i need professional's help with until i get it. Like she said there are apps for talking to people but also there are planning apps and mood apps. What people think is that the only way to get help is with therapy and medicine but that is false. You must work on socializing (which i need to do for my anxiety), try to participate in activities which help especially when you have medicine, and use online to discuss things with people or journals all by yourself. A therapist can tell you what to try but if you don't then what's the point. This can be good till you can get help. I think Allison was harsh but at the same time she's not wrong. We are online, we have books. Every little bit of work we can do alone is good. We all need therapy but we also need to work on ourselves too. Medicine isnt the cure. It just makes it easier to handle. We still have to work on it.

[@ruledbyvenusss]

Takeo NoSkillWriter this comment was from a while ago but what are the planning/mood apps ? i definitely want to look into them, i don’t know any

[@thisiswhatuget]

This broke my heart. I love you both, love your channel and love your book. I can't believe in writing something negative here but I think the message you are giving is so dangerous. Depressed people don't seek help sometimes because THAT'S DEPRESSION. You don't think you deserve/you don't see the point/you can't get out of bed. Like the genius Allie Brosh said, is like asking someone with no arms to punch themselves until they are better. I've struggled with depression many times, I always seek for help. But for me to assume that everyone can do this would be just cruel and ignorant. Also, besides the money component, a lot of people don't seek for help because people around them don't take this seriously so they don't think is something that needs treatment. Specially men, who are told that is a weakness. (Fucking patriarchy.) It's just heartbreaking to listen to you talk like this. The "you just like to be like this" tone to all of this is so hard to understand. Is the king of comment that makes everything worse. I suffer from OCD, severe anxiety and agoraphobia. When you Allison said in a video or text I can't remember that it's easier if you accept that you can't be cured but you can get better it SAVED ME. It made me accept that I can get better and of I get worse I can be better again. And now that you are better (and I'm honestly so happy for you) you feel like you can judge? Maybe you don't have the kind of crippling anxiety or OCD that other people have, I don't know. I don't want to sound harsh because I truly adore you but in the same way you feel like people need this kind of though love you're giving, I'll be the same way with you: please PLEASE don't spread this awful message. SNAP OUT OF IT it's not a cure for mental illness. I love you both. Bye.

[@thisiswhatuget]

Sorry for my english. Not my native language + autocorrect.

[@kaitlinhaslam9004]

Allison’s comment about how she finds herself getting frustrated with people that don’t try to help themselves because of all the work she’s done to improve her mental health really resonated with me. I’ve said that inside my head so many times when I’ve been called “insensitive” or a hypocrite- and I’ve never found the words to express why I am acting the way that I am towards other people with mental health issues. I appreciate this conversation so much.

[@Kick0a0cat]

I don't agree with the point about watching the channel and thus having the resources to look up a doctor. Stumbling on a KZbin channel when you are (unhealthy I know) numbing yourself through binging KZbin or just being on the internet, is not the same as putting actual effort in to look up those sources. Which doesn't even include the bureaucratic and/or financial hurdles you have to overcome to get an actual therapist, as an app provides necessary albeit very limited help. I'm sure there are freelance therapists, but to find them and to get them approved still takes enormous effort, when taking a shower or brushing your teeth seems like too much work. In Germany we have free access to therapists, but even here, you have to overcome enormous hurdles as a person with depression. I'd like for you to give access to those free sources to someone suffering from depression instead of simply telling them they could do it, if they tried enough.

[@Raya-xw5ud]

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[@claudiaalmeida3655]

Yes. And in many places therapy is EXPENSIVE.

[@ghost.9758]

preach. i agree 100%.

[@SageGarlandSingerSongwriter]

Thank you! Preach. Now Allison needs to woman up and respond to this comment.

[@SageT93]

You have access to the free resources. That's the whole point of her saying that. You said yourself that having access to them isn't the same as putting the effort to use them. The point of her argument is that people have to help themselves, and a lot of them don't.

[@rea_keebz]

as someone who is struggling with another depression relapse right now, i really appreciate this video

[@peacockin1]

Hope you're taking care of yourself, it's nice to see people can have solice watching jbu.

[@AnimationMay]

THANK YOU FOR THE REPRESENTATION

[@largemargeskates]

I feel this strange, sort of, disconnect with myself where when I am most clear-headed I find it most difficult to seek help for my anxiety and depression. I guess in my head, I make up the excuse "Well, today I feel great, or today I feel fine. I've dealt with it." But then, when I am experiencing severe anxiety or am hit by a heavy wave of depression, I want to go seek help right away but feel so paralyzed that I won't make any action. I guess my problem is that I don't really know where to start.

[@ghost.9758]

perhaps you started with that comment. :) i felt the same as you, on the good days i convinced myself i was okay, on the bad days i was too paralysed to seek help. i can't recall exactly how i eventually brought it up with my doctor, but it was in a covert way, like "i've heard antidepressants can be useful for acne" or something like that. lol. but basically i got the help i needed in the only way i could manage at that time. a bit strange but it opened the door and now i can talk openly about my mental health problems on good days without feeling like a fraud. the first step is always the hardest! good luck!

[@lgal56]

Clinical depression and the feeling of being depressed are two different things

[@mnickrowe]

how would you describe the two?

[@lgal56]

QUEENDOM that's not the point the point is you can't be upset at someone for saying they're "feeling depressed" the same way you can someone who falsely claims to have OCD

[@mnickrowe]

I would argue that its been proven giving somebody a long hug releases oxytocin which in turn calms the person down and lowers blood pressure. Also releases positive emotions. No its not a cure-all with someone dealing with a specific depression (there are quite few) but it does help.

[@lgal56]

QUEENDOM I'm not saying that claiming to have OCD is worse than claiming to have clinical depression I'm saying that expressing the feeling of depression is not the same as lying about being clinically depressed

[@lgal56]

Because depression is just an emotion. Just like experiencing anxiety is not the same as being diagnosed with an anxiety disorder. All I'm trying to say is that person can say they're expierincing depression with out belittling those who have clinical depression because they're not the same thing but this video made it seem as though depression isn't a normal emotion that everyone feels

[@MyMajesticLife]

I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH HOW AMAZING. ENTERTAINING, HELPFUL, AND THOUGHT PROVOKING UR VIDEOS ARE! Love itttt!

[@miaregen4532]

Hello from Germany where the waiting time for a psychological health care professional covered by regular insurance varies somewhere between 7 and 18 months which isn't crippling at all if you feel hopeless already and makes contacting them really easy.

[@giuliareinecke2635]

Mia Regen falls du studierst gibt es oft auch von der uni schnelleren zugang zu psychologen. Und falls nicht, bleib stark!

[@miaregen4532]

Franz Franz ohw, Du bist ja lieb ♥ meine Frustration bezieht sich vor allem auf die Suche nach einer ärztlichen Person, also jemand, der eine Diagnose stellt und medikamentös behandeln darf (und das dann auch über die Krankenkasse abrechnet und nicht noch Studenten Geld aus der Nase zieht)... und natürlich wie unfair das generell ist. Ich meine übrigens, dass es für nicht-Studenten ähnliche Angebote gibt, wenn auch weniger :)

[@giuliareinecke2635]

Ja ich verstehe! Eig unzulässig das man in einem Staat wie unserem sowas abgeht! Ich denke das Hauptproblem ist das psychisches einfach wirklich nicht so ernst genommen wird...

[@miaregen4532]

Die Wartezeiten bei fast allen Fachärzten völlig absurd und die Probleme werden zunehmend ernster genommen - es sind aber auch zunehmend mehr Menschen betroffen :/

[@viku1361]

It's the same here in Sweden. Like sure, we have free health care, which is great, but if one have to wait several months just to see a general doctor and then several more months to get to see a psychiatrist, one could very well have killed one self by then... I'm just lucky I managed to get better on my own. I hope you're okay Mia

[@DreamingWith1D]

something i struggle with a lot is the idea of deserving to get help. i spent years thinking that what was happening to me wasn't bad enough to see a therapist, that i was overreacting and that people have it much worse, so i felt like i didn't deserve the help. i guess that can be why some people are so hesitant to?

[@divyasasidharan2960]

She kinda spoke like a privileged person. Not only many places don't have good therapies but actually experiment on u like an animal they r expensive n out of pocket, children can't earn enough to get that help if parents don't recognize the issue, also there is the worthless feeling that can take over before one realizes that they r sick n don't think it's worth to save their lives. There is risk with talking about mental health online like that with the current political scenario where they r demonizing mental health issues. Like in my personal case I have been trying to get a therapist for more than few years now but have been unsuccessful to do so. I didn't wanted to start the new year without fixing this shit n wasting my life away(I have wasted 10 years of struggling from bed) n no one has tried to help me in anyway or even acknowledge other than insulting n abusing me. I have gotten to the point where I thought I may not be able to do it myself so I asked my physician to get me one n my bad luck that didn't work out even, then I have begged my partner to book one for me but he didn't n I see his reasoning too being an legal immigrant u have so much pressure that this kind of record will throw u out of the country n they don't even let u know why they r doing this. This so stressful.

[@thehydrangeaandtherose2902]

The mental health care Allison is talking about isn't limited to paid psychologists. The internet itself is a wonderful resource. There's libraries and youtube and school counseling, and free online therapy and hotlines. There's so much help you can receive as long as you're willing to look for it.

[@AverieMc]

Every time I watch one of these just think about how beautiful Allison looks. I mean, she’s always been beautiful but something about her lately is like magnetic. Maybe she’s more confident now and that coming through? Idk. But she’s lookin good. Go girl.

[@MissAyeshaN]

I continue to love this format of video! I feel pretty pretty strongly about this topic. While I understand Allison's perspective on not wanting to enable, I can also see where that mindset is not particularly helpful. Like Gaby said, sometimes depression manifests in a debilitating way, where management has to take a backseat to doing the basics, like eating and showering. And beyond that, I think if you frame getting help in a 'You're not doing enough' kind of way, that might make accessing help another thing that the person feels they've failed at, making it another source of anxiety/depression. There's a fine line between enabling and responding to a person's emotional needs, you know?

[@dominiquegaston1759]

I love the new format so much. Thank you for your content!

[@bearike315]

I love how you guys have reformatted the show. It’s so much more real and talks about really important, valuable things other people might not talk about. The show still has you guys at the core of it and that’s all that matters. The comedy is still there which makes the issues you’re talking about more accessible without making them too light. Watching this show was the highlight of my day. Thanks guys 💜

[@LibsLOL42]

thank you very much for talking about your experiences with mental illness. i really look up to both of you and hearing you talk so openly about having mental illness really helps me to de-stigmatize my own experience ❤️

[@lydia1321]

omg same about allison's thing about getting mad at other people who like arent high functioning depressed or mentally ill. like i've worked so hard and like they should too. which i really need to work on obviously.

[@cuteandkindgirl5861]

This video put very eloquently a lot of things that I've learned about my dealing with mental illness (and mental illness in general) that I haven't been able to put into words before, and I'm super grateful for that. Thanks so much, you guys, for devoting your channel to such difficult topics! You're saying important things

[@Roxifer1]

This is one of my favourite videos from the New Year so far (: you guys are so thoughtful sometimes, it takes me back. I'll always have your witty and endearing skits to look back on but these new videos just keep getting better. Glad you guys are talking about lots of different topics now and not just silly stuff all the time. Yet you two also keep it light and friendly. Well done and thank you!

[@jessicamoore4259]

So good! I love this new format and longer episodes.

[@julianitaoso]

I really like this chiller format, it feels more genuine and it's in turn more entertaining (not that your old stuff is bad, just like this better)

[@bridgittefeldman7171]

your channel never fails to make my monday 1000% better!! love you guys❤️❤️

[@butterkeksgangster6685]

This was so helpful! seeing other people dealing with mental health problems and even more important improvement of mental health is so nice! I feel less lonely

[@sofie3510]

Can I just say that the quality of the filming has improved so much in 2 years?? Its amazing, good job!

[@cottoneyejoe9256]

Really like y’alls videos on mental health but from what I’ve see apps and online resources still cost money and as a poor student I really don’t want to pay for something that might not even help me. I do use coping mechanisms for anxiety but I wouldn’t say people who aren’t “helping themselves” are wrong it’s more complicated

[@anejell4lyfe]

loving all the straight-up mental illness content on here lately. bless y'all for always saying the things I need to hear

[@lesbianwithsword]

thank you for such nuanced and compassionate discussion on this topic, and for being so self-aware

[@Olivia_4444]

I'm really loving this. Also i love realising how cool Allison actually is.

[@hgracez]

I really like this new "serious advice" thing you all are doing! You're good people with good advice and good life skills... thanks for sharing all of that!

[@Jecca1014]

I would totally buy that book ! And I love this new format!! You guys are doing awesome

[@gabym1780]

This video means a lot and talking about what real OCD, depression and anxiety is so important and I also feel like you guys are expressing what I want to say so well. if people ever ask me what its like to live with all three I am going to show them this video because it really explains it well. thank you for being real.

[@porcupine_overalls]

Thank you for making videos about these things! I'm in love with the new show format!

[@ComedyMasterGaming]

When you talked about becoming too comfortable with anxiety, it really spoke to me cuz I didnt even realize that it could be a problem and it really helped me to hear that

[@torib796]

I needed to hear someone be so straight forward about getting help for my ADHD and anxiety thank you guys!

[@yesse7956]

Best episode in JBU3 so far, it's been a while since I've really enjoyed an episode. Thanks.

[@brookek5922]

gaby looks so good in this video it’s distracting me from whatever point allison is making

[@anafdez2112]

I love that know they are more mature and real on the show because it shows that not only do they care about any problems that they could help someone with but they also have the resources to really help people. Thank you ladies, love you so much ❤️

[@effinraybo]

I really like this episode. it's really hard to talk about mental illness and you guys have a really great way of being open and honest about everything.

[@LXRS_]

We are seriously in need of that book I feel like it would help so many people actually confront their anxiety and so much more.

[@XoTayTayAnn13]

Alison’s advice at the end was really an eye opener. I didn’t even realize that was a thing I’ve been doing until she started to explain how to not enable yourself when it comes to your mental illness. More hushing the inner voice in hopes that it starts to fade. Thank you guys for this video.

[@mirage..]

this is SO good guys keeping it coming in

[@Jsasjeskrs]

I have (diagnosed) OCD, depression, anxiety, and PTSD. when I gave in to my issue I would definitely spiral down. Now I am getting the help I need and even though I still have these issues they don’t completely control my life anymore.

[@BobO-iv8kj]

[@Flettchh]

This was really helpful. Thanks for the tough love Alison, think I needed to hear what you said x

[@itsmeerikad1434]

This was such a good conversation about mental health and I totally agree with Allison's "harshness". I get very worried about discussing mental health online because I think it can sometimes be a place for people to talk about their health an "empty" sense. It's hard to have a conversation about the complexities of mental health in a 280 character Tweet. I fear that communication in this way can give people a false sense that they are addressing their problems. And sometimes I fear that online spaces romanticize mental illness (although this is not a new problem). I don't know. My point is I find it hard to have a productive conversation about mental illness online yet I also find that the internet is a space where a lot of people feel comfortable talking about mental illness.

[@sighcantthinkofaname]

In general great video, but I did cringe a little bit at the part telling people they for sure are able to get the help they need. I get what you're saying about how there's lots of options including stuff on your phone, but even putting aside the financial aspects of it a lot of people simply don't know that stuff exists, or they don't do well without face to face interaction, or they don't have transportation, or they're under 18 and don't have their families support. And heck, even for people above the age of 18 you'd be surprised by how many different cultures don't support therapy or how people who are very religious are against it (Not all religious people obviously, but in certain communities people spread around this idea that all you have to do is pray and you'll get better). And of course it can be scary to ask for help, for both logical and illogical reasons. Humans aren't always rational. I'm a social work major, I'm graduating in may. I've noticed this thought process a lot with people who have struggled in their life, the "I've put work in and gotten better, there's no reason other people can't." I've heard people say it about everything from depression to obesity to domestic abuse. But everyone has a different story, and just because something works for you doesn't mean it works for someone else. One example I hope will show this well is a guy in one of my classes did a presentation on PTSD. He's a former military guy, and he was saying that some veterans have issues with people getting PTSD from car crashes when they've seen the horrors of war and get along fine. I'm assuming you wouldn't judge someone for getting PTSD just because it's not as bad as war. Similarly some people get out of the army and do just fine, others get addicted to drugs and end up on the street. They've faced the same problems but handled it in very different ways because some people have better coping mechanisms. Basically it's great that you've worked hard on improving your mental illness, but that doesn't mean everyone else can do the same right now. I'm sure you know mental illness can be a life long battle, and you can't just decide to get better one day. Sorry this got so long, I just have lots of thoughts on it.

[@SageGarlandSingerSongwriter]

This is great! I hope she reads this.

[@claudiaalmeida3655]

Thank you for writing this.

[@ArtemisScowl]

Gaby, that ABC thinking thing was so simple yet so profound. I've never heard it explained like that but it makes so much sense. Thanks for sharing that, it gave me something concrete and tangible to work on. Thanks so much you guys, I love the new videos!

[@chanti2309]

Thank you so much for your straight talking about mental health. I find it so hard to explain my Depression to others, it's listening to words like yours and reading the Bell Jar that help me vocalise what I can't. I also suffer from Anxiety and I'm trying to get myself to the point now, where I can also kick myself out the house and argue with my anxious thoughts. Thanks for the inspiration

[@kamango25]

gabby. thank you so much for sharing the fact that depression can be physically PAINFUL. I deal with this and it is extremely isolating because people do not understand. love this discussion guys.

[@Suzanneyhearts]

All of this is sooo relatable. Thank you for putting more eloquent words to so many of the things I’ve been feeling!! Sometimes I feel like such a jerk for not being able to handle friends who also have mental health issues but aren’t dealing with them. I’ve worked my ass off through a lot of drugs and therapy to get where I am now, and so I known it’s not an easy process. It’s a process that needs to be started though! It also seems like you’re describing the DBT skill “opposite action” at the end though 😬 so it alone is not book worthy, but I know Allison has so many more gems tucked in there that could fill a book!

[@lucyh4710]

I have been waiting for this video all week. Been super sick low key made my day

[@MissOhhhlivia]

I just started therapy and I have my first appointment with a psychiatrist in a few days for anxiety/depression/BPD This video just confirmed to me that I'm on the right track for seeking help. I'm 23 years old and I've been avoiding this truth for way too long. Thank you for being honest and talking about topics like this, it's been such a struggle to admit to myself and others that I need help. It's great to see that I'm not the only one and helps me feel less alone right now. Thank you.

[@lexlexlex94]

I'm very much with Allison in her stance on getting help and being frustrated with people

[@sarahhromin675]

LOVE THESE NEW VIDEOS LOVE YOU GUYS JUST ADDING SOME POSITIVE CONTENT HERE SO YOU GUYS DONT EVER STOP THANKS LOVE YOU

[@queerbabyegg]

i have debilitating ocd that has nearly taken over my life and hearing allison talk about it when most other people don’t makes me feel a lot better 💖 also i relate to gaby so much about psychical pain coming with depression.

[@daniescobarm]

That vocalizing the anxiety thing that Alison mentioned is sooo true. When I first got diagnosed I told everyone and talked so much about it that my anxiety was always present and I started getting anxiety attacks more and more often.

[@sheeps_]

This morning I woke up and thought I’d rewatch all of JBU and now there’s a new video!

[@lyssabird6476]

THANK YOU GABBIE ..... all my friends get really frustrated when I explain what depression actually is, so THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@kappity95]

The note about stopping yourself from talking about your mental illness so much was a really good point. Sometimes I find myself mentioning that I'm "just an anxious person" but that may also become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Really enjoy the new format, your sincere advice is actually very helpful!

[@isa0ber]

i relate to allison as in being judgemental of people who can but don't help themselves. it peeves me when a mental illness becomes such a big part of someone's identity, sense of humor and point of view that they don't seek help.

[@luisasantana9038]

JBU comments are such a safe space. Loving it.

[@EmilyAnneDavis14]

Your channel always succeeds in making my day better... Thank you

[@estebanuniversidad6976]

This video was very helpful for me, I often find discrepencies between my relationship with mental health and that of my friends, and this video miraculously bridged all of the gaps as if you were reading off a checklist. Especially the part about how it’s important to find a balance between repression and wallowing.Thank you so much for this JBU - a longtime fan (Igor’s jacket is rad as hell)

[@sarahstumpf7896]

just so you know this is the best part of my day

[@Ryan-yp4fc]

I really really needed this. Thank you

[@michellelion9530]

This was really enlightening, great content as usual!! Thank you JBU!! Also, it’d be interesting to discuss about how you both overcame these issues eventually (for the next episode maybe :) )

[@nezbut7]

this was a really good video for me. i dont have any diagnosed mental illness but a few of my loved ones do and everytime they talk about it i feel underequppied to help them. i think i understand them, ive educated myself enough that i understand what depression and anxiety is to people but i am unable to empathise (mostly depression anxiety i am able to). these kind of videos help a lot, especially the ABC thing and the text message therapy thing. the vocalising and spiralling thing helps me too. thanks so much guys how can u be so funny and so helpful.

[@VideoGameSophistry]

This is 2 years old so quiet possibly their opinions on everything has changed BUT I think it's grossly irresponsible and even cruel to suggest that *"If you have can access this video you can access help"* the financial restrictions to find access to real, affordable care are (in Canada at least) insurmountable. For free emergency response counselling you are required not one but TWO attempts on your life, for extensive OCD CBD counselling the wait list for any program that is under 100 dollars a session is 12 months - if you live in a small town it's several years OR you have to spend 450 dollars a sessions. Living at the minimum wage makes it impossible to get help - especially with the pressures of a real job or any sort of familial responsibilities. This judgement and pressure that you put on others is misplaced. 100% of your energy needs to be against the system that makes this impossible. Not everything can be solved by a workbook you find online. Do better.

[@Paraphernelia04]

what an amazing video! I loved it so much ^o^

[@jessieblackery4547]

I love what Allison said about accepting it the right amount. For a long while, I referred to myself as ‘the anxious mess’ as a way to laugh things off, but then it became part of my identity. One of my teachers (who has helped me a lot the past 2 years) started telling me off whenever I said that about myself that/dismisses myself that way, and it’s helped a lot now bc it doesn’t feel like a label I need to fit into to be *me* anymore

[@aimsteraims]

I agree with vocalizing your anxieties being a way of giving in to them, sometimes. If I'm starting to have a panic attack and tell someone "hey, I'm getting a panic attack" I will always have a worse panic attack than I do when I don't tell anyone.

[@madeleinem3801]

But sometimes, at least for me, you don't have even the motivation or push to look at your phone when you're depressed. So some people can't get on their own the help they need and, what they need is time or someone else to get the help.

[@kittyKITTAY]

Just wanted to let you know that your new format is equally as awesome as your old one. I'm not going to say I like your "Topics" more than your advice/questions content, but I like it just as much. Thanks for consistently good quality 🙂

[@warriorwitchwillow]

Bless you both so much for this video!! I suffer from depression and anxiety (my social anxiety seems to be getting worse too, Gaby), along with possibly undiagnosed ADD according to my therapist. Like Gaby, I suffer physically from my depression and can barely function some days (yesterday was one of those). Thank you both so much for talking about this with us.

[@anonn9006]

One of the best videos (for me personally I guess) of the JBU 3.0 I mean, don’t become only about mental health, but it’s really cool to have you talk about that in depth more. Thanks :)

[@msmccrabbleapple]

I have ADHD and often people think "oh it's just ADHD" not realising how debilitating it can be. Friends have told me that they don't think I have a condition and I just need to sleep more, or that it doesn't seem like I have trouble focusing so I should just try harder at uni/work/life. You'd think people would at least do a google search before voicing their "expert opinion"

[@sunnyflinders]

msmccrabbleapple yes! I think if people don’t have the time or motivation to research then maybe they should respect you enough to just, I dunno, believe you!

[@yoonjinsroom8673]

what Allison just said...really hit a nerve. You'd probably be pissed at me if you knew me. I've repressed a lot of my mental health issues for years, and looking back I even used it as a reason for my unsuccessful career and unhealthy relationships, from familial, friends etc.I didn't do anything to help myself. I have been so aware of my thoughts and actions yet I refused to acknowledge it and get help. But the end of last year I told myself no more excuses, I'm old enough to take care of myself, I'm accountable for my actions, I will not blame it on anyone but myself. I wrote it down on my resolutions and I'm currently on a waiting list for donation based counselling. Like I said, I don't really have a great job so this is what I can afford. (Online stuff doesn't feel as effective on me for some reason.) They said they'll call within this week so hoping it will be good. I'm also trying to find a job that I actually like. I'm trying really hard to work on myself now. I'm not getting any younger. Well I didn't mean to tell my life story here but yeah, I guess I just wanted to say what Allison said is very true, if you need help go and get it. You are accountable for your own mental health. I'm fortunate to have been able to function for the past years and still be alive right now, some people arent so if you are and you can do something to help yourself then please do it. Thanks as always for sharing your experiences and genuine emotions to us. 😊

[@faeriesmak]

YoonJin's room Good luck. I hope that everything goes well for you!

[@ced101hi]

good luck!

[@yoonjinsroom8673]

+faeriesmak thanks! ♡

[@yoonjinsroom8673]

+cedric thank you! ♡

[@arabellarawson3534]

It legitimately pisses me off when people diagnose themselves with an illness or disability because they think it's this cool, quirky, romantic thing, then when you tell them you have the condition they try to make it a competition and say you don't seem like you have the condition as if every psychologist, occupational therapist and psychiatrist you've seen must have been full of shit because Brenda from your art history class thinks you don't seem like you have Aspergers/PTSD/Anxiety/Depression/etc.

[@rory5586]

We all have a fucking Brenda.

[@hajarmdn4883]

QUEENDOM I don't think you know what slang means or how mental illnesses are named. From a lot of your comnents I can see you misunderstood the origins of the words or maybe English isn't your first language and your first connection with the words is their mental illness side.

[@transmatized]

Ella Rawson I self diagnosed myself with bpd because as soon as I knew what it was I knew I had it and then had the financial resources to be able to get medically diagnosed which I was immediately but not everyone has that luxury so to be upset when someone self diagnoses themselves out of desperation or because they feel as though they genuinely might be affected by that illness isn't really fair

[@arabellarawson3534]

ares where I live it doesn't cost money and the people I interact with irl have *access* to the resources, they just don't *need* them. Even if it did cost money the point still stands, you can speculate that you *might* have a disorder but you cannot state that you have it as a fact. Most people who have any illness or disability know there's *something* wrong before they're diagnosed, but most people are aware that *they are not* qualified to actually say *what* is wrong definitively.

[@TheAgentAssassin]

or maybe ...they need help too like you Unless you consider yourself to be the only depressed person in the world? This kind of "show me your papers please" depression verification B.S. makes me depressed.

[@dixiereed4342]

Wow ladies! That was good! Thank you!