What programming language to learn | Chris Lattner and Lex Fridman

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[@duck__dodgers__5294]

At least this guy didn’t say you should learn Assembly first

[@tomasma4896]

I think for every programmer it is worth of few hours to take a look at assembly to know how computers actually works.

[@jamesbutson6347]

@@tomasma4896 Enough time to understand a basic level of jumps, compare, basic maths and memory should be enough in my opinion.

[@ChadZeluff]

Since hearing George talk about Assembly and hardware, I began building an 8-bit CPU across 16 breadboards (look up Ben Eater!) and I’ve made excellent progress on an NES game in 6502 Assembly. I am pretty stoked on George’s words and recommendations.

[@mplovecraft]

It was the second language I tried, but at 12 it was too tough for me and I ended up putting programming aside for another 3 years or so. I really think that you should start out with the fun stuff and dive in deeper later on.

[@instinct94]

@@mplovecraft Absolutely. Digging deeper becomes more and more valuable, the better you are at higher level programming languages. Starting off with it is a mistake for the reason you mentioned imo.

[@donharris8846]

One of the most important things stated in this clip was on the tail end. Regardless of which language is learned, the act of learning makes new connections in the brain which allows us to approach old problems in a new light, the essence of innovation. Millions of tiny innovations across the globe over time amounts to large scale change in our society

[@farzankh]

I've been eating only meat lately and Python is also a great language

[@VinayKumar-vu3en]

*vsauce music intensifies*

[@CE-vd2px]

Lol

[@benvella1728]

In short, learn whatever you are interested in and helps you get something done and feel good about it. And then make an effort to push yourself past your comfort zone

[@CollectioneAnime]

And python is the future

[@farsea1542]

This is the most upbeat I've seen Lex

[@ximono]

That's not Aquafina

[@royaltoadclub8322]

That’s how you know when someone’s in his element. I always was lowkey put off by his monotone, almost disinterested approach to his subjects and interviewees. I wanted a fun, lively animated personality. But I was only thinking about myself. I wanted a leopard to change its spots, instead of paying attention to what he said, vs how he said it.

[@thuggfrogg]

@@andrewallin7856 maybe "comfort" is a better word :) . His respect for Chris is palpable (as it is for many of his interviewees), but he does seem less concerned about offending Chris or annoying him. (For the record, I love Lex's style all the time. I think he has a unique and likable "personal brand").

[@pierbover]

Chris seems like a great guy to chat with!

[@georgeianta2088]

I learned to code and than Twitter banned me

[@KazzArie]

Heyooooo haha

[@codyfan1097]

This guys the best interview I’ve seen so far

[@MusicalBasics]

One of the greatest geniuses of our time!!

[@fairphoneuser9009]

I love the last sentence. Learning new things is the essence of programming!

[@socrates_the_great6209]

Wise words when he said "The one that is best for what you want to do"

[@danielplainview6527]

Which misses the core of the question - which language is best for which problem? How would a newbie (the person likely asking the question) know the difference?

[@georgeskormikiaris7950]

@@danielplainview6527 A newbie should know how to answer the question: what I want to do programmatically that will make my life easier with the tasks I do now with a computer and benefit me in the long run? I, for instance, badly need a Word add-in for my job, so I started learning JavaScript because that's what Office add-ins are written in. A decade ago, I would probably have to learn VisualBasic.

[@LoLsaladz]

Learn the language you need to do what you want. The core concepts of languages are mostly the same.

[@bighands69]

There are certain techniques that work better in certain language. There are certain languages that do a good job of hitting multiple programming methods.

[@jonaskoelker]

> The core concepts of languages are mostly the same. The "mostly" is what drives my suggested list of languages to learn: - (unix) shell scripting - C - Scheme (though I suspect Emacs lisp and/or clojure/CL will do just as fine) - Haskell - SmallTalk ... in which everything is a: - string (and/or some other program) - machine primitive - (syntax) tree - pure function (including all monads but one) - object

[@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069]

Exactly, I am learning statistical learning, econometrics and analytics right now, so I like R.

[@Basta11]

Web - JavaScript. Data Science/ ML - Python. Android - Java. Windows - C#. For starters.

[@dhruvgarg722]

Android - kotlin

[@philodev874]

Networking and Micro services - Go

[@piotrek3580]

Devops/ Infrastructure - Go and Python

[@meamzcs]

@@thomasreed2427 Real programmers use butterflies...

[@mazymetric8267]

@@dhruvgarg722 I don't really get the craze about kotlin. I mean, yeah, there are nice things like conciseness, null safety, coroutines, data classes , extension functions etc but you can easily get by without any of that. If you're seasoned java developer, you can get around those problems without needing learn a whole ass new language.

[@FoxInTheBasement]

Lex nailing that product placement on this one.

[@rdubb77]

Fantastic. Programming is a mindset, and working in a couple or more languages codifies that. Different ways to do essentially the same thing. My hash table is your dictionary is your JS object.

[@bighands69]

I love lisp and can do anything with it but that is not to say I would recommend it to the average person. I would want to know why they are interested.

[@TheRealBlackspawn]

I'm currently working on a project written in Rust and I absolutely love it. Haven't had as much fun coding in a long time. You have to be open and willing to think about and approach things in a different way with Rust, but it's very well worth the effort.

[@meamzcs]

I have started learning it and i'm not very good yet but share your experiences. I sure won't stop learning it anytime soon. Currently programming a simple toy SQL Database in Rust as a side side side project to learn about Database internals and Rust at the same time.

[@AshleyM120]

@@meamzcs Go for microservices, Dart for front-end (transpiled via flutter to web, android, iOS, mac, Linux), Rust anything hardware or computing heavy (even webasm) is what we currently do at 3Rein.

[@himujjalupadhyaya4296]

@@AshleyM120 Most people though force Rust through though. Most people dont need Rust to begin with. Go or Nim does your job faster productivity wise almost most of the times.

[@ekremdincel1505]

@@himujjalupadhyaya4296 Rust has awesome concepts and paradigms.

[@denisblack9897]

@@AshleyM120 multi-platform is a waste of time

[@paulkiat]

One of the best engineers to ever do it.

[@freddyhaug9379]

Can I use Swift for Web? It seems like it could be a good Backend language

[@ringishpil]

Golang, especially for newbies and seniors. Never I imagined I would have so much fun with some language

[@davidholle6569]

the answer is c -> prolog basics -> haskell basics -> sth like java, c# , mby even only c++

[@SuperEndospore]

Im about to delve into Python and programming in general. Just received loads of data to sift through. Gonna wear my jeans high and tight. Try it out.

[@danielcastro1303]

"On a parallel, but small tangent..." Lex, it can't be parallel if it's a tangent!

[@michael222219]

That canned Nitro Cold Brew gets me goin🤣

[@treedoor]

F's in the chat for everyone who has never escaped from programming in a console window.

[@marcosanaya9540]

Been contemplating picking up coding, this is insightful so I can choose a language... the right language and not waste time learning something I don't like. Thank you for the video! Keep up the good work!

[@mattizzle81]

Truly experienced people will tell you there is no best. There are pros and cons for sure between the languages, but in the end programming is programming. There is no being "stuck" with one language. The main ones are not that different. Yes C++, C are more low level and advanced, thus more difficult and teach you some important concepts. The other higher level ones are not that different. I regularly switch between Java for Android, C# and VBA on windows, and Python Linux. Once you're experienced its not a big deal. It's all just programming. I do have preferences though. If I could use just one it would be C#, but that's not always practical because of the platform support, third party libraries available, etc. C# works best on Windows. Not the best choice for Android or Linux.

[@rusitoexplorador]

@@ssssssstssssssss Thanks man :)

[@bighands69]

@Marcos Anaya If I could make a suggestion rather than trying to pick a language try and find out what methods of programming you would like to learn and why you want to learn them. This could save you a lot of problems. If you want to learn a wide range of skills I would suggest something like DrRacket and its various teaching courses available. You can learn every major foundational method of programming with DrRacket but it is not a commercial language but everything you learn can easily be transferred.

[@socrates_the_great6209]

Python is the no brainer first language. It is the easiest to learn and most powerful for data science/machine learning/Neural networks/AI.

[@iorekby]

@@socrates_the_great6209 That's faulty reasoning though. Python won't teach you DS/ML/AI. You need a strong math/stats background to learn that. Python is just well supported, but implying learning Python will teach people DS/ML/AI is like saying just because you can read English you will be able to understand and learn everything in every Physics text book published in English.

[@glenrisk5234]

Played around a little with some really basic scripting over the years but always found it tedious and would give it up. Discovered VR last year and for the first time I was actually excited by what a computer could do. So I'm learning Unity, C# so I can see what I might be able to do in VR, been going for a solid six months now and there have certainly been hurdles but now actually being interested I found ways to continue.

[@Antoinethecool]

Nice ! anything interest made yet?

[@glenrisk5234]

@@Antoinethecool Made a few basic things. The best is likely a circuit you fly a drone around. I stalled on learning C#. I know the basics well enough but getting from there to more advanced stuff I couldn't find anything in between. Spent the last year mostly concentrating on modelling and learning the basics of modding. Have a whole bunch of customized models that I dance with in VR using DXR (formerly DVVR). Started learning UE4 now. I have an outfit mod I'm working on for Focus on You that's coming together nicely. Hoping I'll have better luck with UE4 and C++. They seem more professional and will hopefully be better structured?

[@vonbayernDE]

If you have short attention span, start with Javascript DOM manipulation. Very interactive and engaging.

[@HaKazzaz]

so what was the answer? sorry maybe I've misses it but it seems like Swift exists only to excel in Iphone apps and Lex was trying to find a reason to learn the language..

[@cybervigilante]

Depends on whether you're looking for a job or not. I'm not. But Python is ubiquitous. Right now I'm using Sagemath and you need Python to use it well. It's also all over AI. I don't need to be super-programmer. I just need to Do Stuff.

[@gerritgovaerts8443]

Julia ! As abstract (even better) as Python and as fast as compiled C . Best of both worlds

[@bighands69]

I prefer lisp to that of Julia. If speed is your issue that more than likely means you are developing software of some sort or playing with data.

[@gerritgovaerts8443]

@@bighands69 Yep , math models with over a million decision variables and a few million parameters

[@mayatrash]

As a phyiscist, everyone in theory started using Julia

[@bounty1402]

Casual coders talk about Python, Ruby, etc. but according to my experience, if you want to earn money working as a computer programmer you should learn Java/C# for CRM, ERP, WMS, etc, and JavaScript (Angular, jQuery, Typescript, etc) combined with PHP or Asp.Net MVC for web applications. And if you have the chance, learn SAP/Abap. Another universe is C++ but I don't know much about that. I'm just saying that if you work on a big project for enterprises you have more chances to succeed than creating Android apps. Of course that's just my opinion after many years in IT, I don't want to start a war 😆

[@keithprice7119]

MeatScript, then you'll most likely move on to Gas#

[@madmotorcyclist]

Too bad Lisp never got the praise it deserves. The language was able to do so much in so little code and was one of the easiest code to maintain. As an example a graphical planning and scheduling system I co-wrote took about 30k lines of lisp code. They converted it to C++ and Java and to get nearly the same capability took over 300k lines of code.

[@intrametaarchi1015]

and how many characters? or words?

[@madmotorcyclist]

@@intrametaarchi1015 A lot fewer, thanks to macros and having multiple mixin order dependent inheritance which C++ and Java lacks.

[@DrunkPacifist]

I wonder how Lex looks like with a beard

[@insertoyouroemail]

Mercury is a cool language

[@aiyerk]

Project idea (for your swift project): iOS camera app to see how well done your steak is.

[@pguti778]

He is the Swift guy: what could he say? "Learn Swift"

[@netizentrotter514]

Different strokes for different folks. Scalars, Arrays and Hashes, references, regex make my life easier. I found Perl easier than Python. But these are just semantics. What's fun is solving an issue.

[@clivefernandes5435]

If python was as fast as C would anyone look at another language again ? What r u thoughts guys ?

[@DjoumyDjoums]

If python could run as fast as C, then every language could. In which case I'd choose javascript for small stuff and typescript for bigger stuff.

[@SHUBHAMsharma-wy6cs]

can i write algo trade code in swift please answer

[@RM-xr8lq]

you should look into something like OCaml if you are interested in trading algorithms

[@SportsIncorporated]

Life as a programmer. Another year another language.

[@Backflipmarine]

soooo python and javascript i think he meant to say/

[@MrChaosi]

if you want a job c# or java

[@iorekby]

Or JavaScript. I agree with this 100%. They have been the big 3 in the job market in Europe for over 15 years and still are. There's a perception the likes of Python is taking over, but in reality that is perpetuated by snakeoil KZbin channels and crappy bootcamps (because Python is relatively easy to teach) instead of a strong demand for lots of Python devs. Don't get me wrong, there are Python jobs for sure, but it's nowhere near to knocking Java/JS/C# off the tree top. Those languages are tried and tested by enterprises, and are so pervasive in corporate software they have created a strong inertia that the likes of Python and Golang aren't going to quickly change.

[@stefanbanev]

C++ is the best if the efficiency of CPU usage has highest priorities.

[@AshleyM120]

I would argue for memory safety and performance and compile time checks, it would be better to use rust than C++ for large scale projects. (If you start from scratch and can afford to recruit for rust instead of C++).

[@stefanbanev]

@@AshleyM120 sure, C++ is the best only if CPU usage efficiency has the highest priority, otherwise there are plenty alternatives... apparently I was not talking about CPU usage during development ;o)

[@jokinglimitreached1503]

@@stefanbanev Well, Rust is faster than C++, if CPU usage efficiency is your top priority. C is used in the Linux kernel for a reason - it's faster than C++. But C++ has it's upsides - it's evolving, and Bjarne is an absolutely amazing person. There are so many guidelines and books on C++, as well as existing codebases, that it makes it a great language. However, its not for new programmers.

[@stefanbanev]

@@jokinglimitreached1503 C++ compiler generates ~identical chain of CPU instructions (at least ICC, gcc & VS) for compatible c/c++ code. I run multiple algorithms benchmarks, speed is the same. Linux uses C for legacy and compatibility reason but not because the code speed. Sure if programmer does not know what he is doing he may make even assembler code run slower then its Basic version... I guess you may support your statement "Rust is faster than C++" by specific example, let say by running identical algorithms like ppmd-compression or build decision tree or even something simpler like FFT or arithmetic encoder or even Floyd algorithm. Pls provide the reference to support your statement.

[@jokinglimitreached1503]

@@stefanbanev boii read: "So the C++-compiled binaries are measurably slower, though not noticably: it’s about 865 seconds vs 868 seconds, or about .3%. ... Now the difference is 0.1%, pretty much in the noise. Summary: so whether you like C++ or not, the performance argument is moot." Source: rusty.ozlabs.org/?p=330 My thoughts: When the difference is ~1%, performance doesn't matter. If it matters, use C. But claiming C++ is faster is just not true. Zero cost abstractions are great, but not always possible. C is used in performance critical situations like video encoders and decoders - example: dav1d, libaom. Also, for better interoperability

[@genesiscre]

Haskell

[@Forever-Humble]

My school teacher keeps telling our class to just learn mostly Python as that will get us far in the industry. Can anyone agree with that statement?

[@matthewlind3102]

Python is typically my go-to. I use it because it is easy to bang out a script. Typically, when I write code, it is to mess around with some kind of technology for fun, or it is to make a tool for automating some computer task. Examples: try out OpenCV, learn about web sockets, scale all rectangles in an SVG file, randomize files in a directory, etc. To address your question, you can get very far learning Python. You can't go wrong here. In fact, you can't go too wrong with any mainstream language. Once you get comfortable with the basics of programming you will be able to switch to some other programming language if it better suits your needs. It's sort of like telling people to learn 3D printing because it will get you far. Sure it will. But there is also CNC routers, and table saws, and just hand tools. If your end goal is to make things, then it doesn't really matter where you start, just keep making things, and over time you will learn what the best tool is for the job.

[@bighands69]

@MD I disagree as you could do it with any language.

[@SpaceTimeBeing_]

@@ff20e03bbc Python is a terrible first language to learn if you want to go beyond hobby. Java or C++ will teach you the best concepts in coding right away. Python is best learnt second.

[@jakehands]

I have trouble enough communicating in English and I'm from England.

[@SevenDeMagnus]

Quite a hard question. I guess learn the standards first and then check out the other standards like C, Assembler, Swift. It's best to have different tools to master in the toolbox and not just master the hammer. God bless.

[@coolbrotherf127]

I always learn the languages that are specifically applicable to my needs as they become relevant. Being efficient and complement with programming language learning I think is better than learning too much in a broad spectrum especially if the goal is to get hired. Many companies want specialized programmers who can do the jobs they were hired for except for maybe start ups where people have to pull more weight individually. Companies don't really care if their front end guy knows ARM Assembly.

[@DoubleAAmazin3]

Python good for the OCD

[@ajalanbrown2200]

Just started my programming journey.

[@milanthapa322]

How's the progress?

[@ajalanbrown2200]

@@milanthapa322 Amazing been trying to figure out how to build apps on vscode, only languages I know are python and kotlin

[@homsaleuz4628]

@@ajalanbrown2200 how’s it going? man

[@ajalanbrown2200]

@@Rama-wr9yx so far a half working calculator lol

[@ajalanbrown2200]

@@Rama-wr9yx do you program?

[@summermadness-kf5ug]

F# is great language if you're interested in .NET and functional programming.

[@insertoyouroemail]

F# is a nice balance between elegance and pragmatism. Also a great intro to FP and bridge to Haskell.

[@summermadness-kf5ug]

@@insertoyouroemail Yes! It's a great that way. Since it's multi-paradigm you can ease your way into functional programming. It takes a little getting used to the right balance of Object and Function programming. Haskell is great too, but I find I'm not as productive especially when you factor in you don't have access to the .NET ecosystem.

[@sheevys]

@@insertoyouroemail And Haskell is a really great bridge to Idris:)

[@insertoyouroemail]

@@sheevys Yes! I can get behind that! :)

[@user-xm9if5tu2v]

5:00

[@hackerculture7391]

This guy computer sciences.

[@bren42069]

Python

[@tellstarrsixtwo7120]

So Python ain't...vegan :D.

[@DSAK55]

C was good enough for my grandfather, it's good enough for me

[@christianoconnell8996]

Right balance of high and low level

[@ekremdincel1505]

I hate weak type systems. It does not even have generics.

[@zeektm1762]

@@ekremdincel1505 build generics then

[@ekremdincel1505]

@@zeektm1762 what do you mean?

[@KK-fh1ds]

This is a very interesting guy

[@TheVincent0268]

At least learn basic concepts like how memory is allocated and released, threading, data- versus function pointers, strong and weak typing. Things like that.

[@VandalVortex]

Where would someone learn these fundamental concepts?

[@TheVincent0268]

@@VandalVortex good question. They are often best explained with an existing programming language so eventually you still have to choose a language. I learned it along the way during my professional life as a programmer but perhaps there are YT courses which cover these topics. I never searched for it but perhaps I will, now that you mention it.

[@TheVincent0268]

@@VandalVortex python is a save choice to start learning programming. While working with it you already get a feeling for the underlying concepts. Time spent to Python is never wasted and the knowledge can always be applied to other languages, even if they look different. I wouldn't recommend to start with JavaScript because it has a very 'dense' syntax and (in my opinion) has a typical use case (browser oriented). But note that personal preferences also play a role in choosing the language(s) you want to work with on a daily basis.

[@yossarianz257]

This guy is really nice and genuine, only thing that bugs me is his view about elon musk, its clear that guy is not what he says stop promoting him that way.

[@needlessoptions]

C because then you're scalable across almost all levels of abstraction as a programmer and also you will learn how to actually use the hardware to it's full capability instead of expending resources so you can be lazy about memory management which imo is not even hard, you just have to write a lot of code in that style.

[@philodev874]

What about Go?

[@needlessoptions]

@@philodev874 I like Go but it has garbage collection.

[@anjalibhatt376]

Do you think it's still as prevalent to learn C as Go or C++?

[@needlessoptions]

@@anjalibhatt376 C++ is for sure more prevelant if you're talking about jobs. But C is much, much better as a first introduction to programming, and then once you're comfortable with C as well as general programming idioms you can basically write C++. You can just learn the bells and whistles along the way and use the OOP stuff if it's helpful. As for Go, idk off the top of my head where it ranks rn in terms of jobs but you may as well learn as many programming languages as you can so can't hurt to familiarize yourself with Go.

[@anjalibhatt376]

I am more inclined to dive deeper in C in terms of data structures and algorithms. But most of the lectures, applications especially related to ML has either Py or C++ as the base language.

[@small955]

To understand programming, do not separate the hardware and software. Assembly is probably the best way to understand the machine,

[@bryanurizar]

Best first programming language? Python.

[@KK-fh1ds]

Lex "i only eat meat" Friedmen

[@MrJigarparmar]

Joe " I only eat meat" Rogan

[@orkhanahmadov9963]

I love MEAT

[@CLIFFBMX]

That bottle gives me anxiety.

[@KETANRAMTEKE]

Any object oriented programming, after that picking up any new language becomes very easy. Brainf*ck for mutants🧠

[@karljay7473]

So what was the answer, Swift? Swift is iOS/macOS only. What about Swift+Kotlin? That doesn't do backend/server/web work... Ok, how about Swift, Kotlin and JavaScript? Ok...

[@karljay7473]

@@ShreeNation Swift is pretty limited even if it can work on other platforms, it's really not going to gain ground in servers, windows or other platforms. JS seams fine as a front end and backend tool, so I'd say JS. If you're doing mobile, Swift and Kotlin. I do Swift and JS myself and that allows me to do full stack mobile and web. Kotlin is next on my list. What sucks is that I've been programming for decades and we still don't have universal languages. I've learned probably 12 or more languages over the years. Swift isn't bad, it's improved over the years, but they still do stupid things like getting rid of --/++ and for/next and some other strange things.

[@karljay7473]

@@ShreeNation I really don't think it'll happen. Back when I started we had Fortran, Cobol, Pascal and others. None of them because universal, but Pascal could have. Programming languages are not the same as spoken languages where there would be a clear advantage to having a universal spoken language (which they actually do in flying, people that fly, use English). With programming languages, they all have different uses. Go was designed for server, Java was supposed to be "thee one" but it wasn't as cross platform as they though. Python is great as a scripting language, but you don't want to use a scripting language for building objects and libraries.

[@allenroisen2386]

once you learn one, the rest come easy.

[@glibaudio]

Cool. Thanks Allen.

[@syzerp3824]

I think it's more like once you master one, the rest is just learning the syntax

[@allenroisen2386]

@@syzerp3824 Yeah absolutely, but learning syntax is 1000x easier than learning computer science principles that you must learn when first understanding a language. I guess if I were to pick a first language, it'd be C/C++ so you can learn complex comp sci topics without being hand held, and from there every other language comes easy. C++ would probably be best because you can learn OOP as well.

[@syzerp3824]

@@allenroisen2386 Yeah I agree. You first have to learn certain computer science principles, then from there master a language. Once that's done, master a second language and you should be able to pickup any language very quickly, in my opinion.

[@4m470]

Agreed. Im in the process of learning pseudo code and C++. A lot of the principles apply to java, c#, python. Its not really the syntax that matters. The most important part of coding seems to be the logic, comp sci principles, and problem solving.

[@bighands69]

The first question you need to ask is are you a programmer or software engineer? You can be both or just one of them.

[@freezoulou]

English

[@Ty-cl2jk]

The answer is JavaScript if you want to make websites, Python if you want to process data, Java if you want to make apps and have an Android, Swift if you want to make apps and have an iPhone.

[@felipec]

Incorrect. Ruby if you want to process data.

[@vibovitold]

It's Kotlin for Android. Java is obsolete (and was already obsolete at the time ever you posted your comment), not unlike Objective-C on iOS (for which you correctly recommended Swift).

[@pmarreck]

I think the best languages are functional languages but the easiest languages are imperative languages. Functional languages will allow you to do more work with less code (and also have less debugging work after the fact), but you have to understand the concepts first. Unfortunately, there's a bit of a leap there, and you have to un-learn some things. Javascript (I hate to say it) is probably not a bad language to start with at this point. I'd move onto Elm or some other functional language that "compiles to Javascript" ASAP though. Python, no. Python is overrated. lol. It has fundamental design flaws.

[@Tassadar606]

pythonnnn

[@Flux799]

For an absolute beginner I would personally recommend HTML just to dip your toes in the pool so to speak.

[@zurichsee706]

too much skin cream

[@schmetterling4477]

They aren't hiring you to learn a new language. They are hiring you to solve problems. Problems can be solved in all languages.

[@Stopinvadingmyhardware]

You should start with English

[@bmoore813]

Lmao 😂swift makes no sense

[@ericpmoss]

This is not too interesting, IMO. It's mostly "what should I learn to be marketable?" Every few years it's a new fad language that bends over backward to not be Lisp.

[@TheMasterashton]

Everyone knows wordpress is the best coding language.

[@Heopful]

if you really want to learn a web dev programming language learn elementor

[@tomlawton5116]

We don't have to give stupid things a chance... if we did the vegans would easily take over our world. Nassim Taleb: mix up the frequency of meat intake, a la vegan Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, and voracious carnivore Thursday (and randomise further over a longer time-frame). We evolved to be omnivores (and to experience periodic food shortages), we're neither cows nor lions.

[@coreykuehl8519]

Eating meat only aside from the health issues is terrible economically, agriculturally, and morally. Disappointing to see a seemingly intelligent individual do something so ignorant.

[@iorekby]

Environmentally too. It's a fad diet popular among "too busy to learn how to cook" bros. Lex will move off of it over time I'm sure once he's seen it for what it is.

[@shazam314]

If eating meat is morally wrong, then owning a cat is also morally wrong.

[@5ithofnov159]

This guy sound drunk all the time

[@EmilianaCamila]

Lex has got great credentials and a great podcast, but damn with many topics he is truly ignorant and/or biased. Hopping on the meat-only JP diet train, are we?

[@cybervigilante]

I'd be okay with it if pizza is meat. 😀

[@lorblauh]

So you're a nutrition expert I presume?

[@w1d3r75]

We're all ignorant

[@EmilianaCamila]

@@lorblauh Ah yes, anyone is either ignorant or an expert. Go read a bit about malnutrition, you may learn something