What really happened in Charlottesville?

"Unite The Right," Patriot Front's origins, and policing mistakes.
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[@lights473]

I never knew that the police state actually escalated the conflict during Charlottesville. The state really is terrible

[@remyllebeau77]

They had no right to cancel the event. That is giving the "hecklers veto" the win. If police did their expletive job and arrested the violent people attacking anyone on the right, none of this would have happened. Just keeping two sides separate is the cowards way out, and blatantly immoral.

[@lights473]

@@remyllebeau77 can't expect the state to do anything correctly, even policing. Privatize everything.

[@alexmaccity]

What about the UNC professor of anthropology that told people to block the roads, and telling people to get ready to get hit? He pointed a rifle at james fields prior to him accelerating away towards the crowds of people waiting to get ran over? Theres video of it.

[@justoguillermomontoya3821]

The organizers had tried to cooperate with law enforcement prior to the event in order to prevent violence but the police and the governor WANTED violence to occur

[@stp479]

Wow. Sounds exactly like J6. Imagine that.

[@Individual_Lives_Matter]

Maybe the command staff did. They’re nearly always political types.

[@chiefenumclaw7960]

Violent mob attacks young man in his vehicle. Young man panics and proceeds to peel out in fear for his safety. Meanwhile, angry mob proceeds to stand in front of said car as they are emboldened by their sense of moral superiority. The ending was always going to be obvious.

[@drlobomalo]

And just one block away from the motor vehicle incident Prof. Dwayne Dixon, of the Antifa militia Redneck Revolt, waved his AR-15 at Fields as an act of intimidation. The Narrative of that day is so firmly entrenched that the video of Dwayne admitting to this is still up on you tube.

[@paulhamrick3943]

I think the guy who murdered that woman and injured so many others deliberately did so out of… it was a retaliatory act, but that doesn’t excuse it. He’s guilty of murder.

[@BDnevernind]

What a ludicrous whitewash. "Young man" is member of white nationalist group and accelerated for 2 blocks before striking unsuspecting, nonviolent protests. Fixed it for you.

[@chiefenumclaw7960]

@@paulhamrick3943 It was so intentional that he didn't even try to get away. He drove a few streets over and sat on the curb and waited for the cops to show up.

[@paulhamrick3943]

@@chiefenumclaw7960 yes, this isn’t completely uncommon when someone loses their cool, commits a murderous act out of rage, and then realizes what they’ve done and that there’s no escaping their fate. I have sympathy for the guy, he put himself into an extreme situation and wasn’t cut out to handle it, but he committed murder.

[@societyofrobots]

If you watch the full unedited video of the "car ramming people" in slow motion, you'll see 20+ people with clubs and baseball bats chasing and attacking the car, and a rock being thrown into the front window - all before the crash happened. The guy wasn't ramming people, he was fleeing for his life! The local government, which prosecuted him provided him a government appointed lawyer - a direct conflict of interest.

[@remyllebeau77]

Zero mention that fields was threatened by armed anti-fa before fleeing in the car. Zero mention that the evidence for him impacting the supposed victim with his car is next to none.

[@derekwhite9932]

Funny l can't find video...

[@derekwhite9932]

I have heard this before.

[@remyllebeau77]

@@derekwhite9932 Yes because almost all videos about it and critical views about the subject are removed off of YT. You will believe the official narrative if you don't go off normal big tech platforms.

[@Ubu987]

The armed leftist was a college lecturer who boasted about it afterwards. The young woman who unfortunately passed was not directly impacted, but struck by a van which the car had hit. She was somewhat larger than would be optimal for greatest coronary health. The injuries she suffered were from attempts to revive her.

[@Frodojack]

@@Ubu987 What's your source for this information?

[@matthewjohnston1400]

I remember decades ago discovering Reason at the newsstand. As a young libertarian influenced by Rand, I was excited that such a magazine existed. Today, Reason content is so influenced by progressive views that’s it’s unreadable and unwatchable. I just keep my head down now and weep for the world.

[@davidtejuosho587]

Lmaooo. Oh, wow. Or maybe you’re just a right-winger??? Like all their content recently has been them bashing Biden for random stupid shit. Re-evaluate and smell your bias

[@matthewjohnston1400]

@@davidtejuosho587 the Covid lockdown policies from both Cato and Reason were built on the notion that state violence is both moral and efficacious. It was right wing, or at least close enough to make me realize that these beltway libertarian types are not advocates for freedom.

[@matthewjohnston1400]

@@davidtejuosho587 I’m the same person I’ve always been - a radical liberal.

[@aristochat3]

The police stood down by design.

[@millennialsecularandauthri3338]

They had a court order with permission to be there. Governor side stepped it with state of emergency.

[@drlobomalo]

It's even in the official Heaphy Report. But the entire MSM pretended not to notice and Heaphy went on to become chief investigative counsel of the fake J6 Committee.

[@jake9705]

Important questions not asked in this interview: 1) Which person or group started the violence at Charlottesville? 2) What did the police do to minimize that original, instigating force? 3) Is it true that the driver who killed several protesters was attacked by protesters first and was trying to escape? 4) What was the driver's explanation for his behavior? 5) What happened to the idiot who was wildly brandishing his pistol at the leftist crowd? 6) A California judge recently dropped government charges against violent, right-wing protesters because the government failed to charge violent, left-wing protesters at the same riot. Should that rationale be applied here?

[@danielcichello4421]

I know, great reporting. Was this VICE or Reason?!?!

[@jdtcskate]

The driver didn't kill anyone. The obese woman died of a heart attack when he hit a van (while trying to flee from the angry, violent mob) that bumped into her at about 5 mph.

[@N20Joe]

@@danielcichello4421 Or NPR?

[@danielcichello4421]

@N20Joe NPR is hilarious. I listen to it everyday just play a game called "30 seconds" that' being within 30 seconds before they throw some diversity, oppression, race, or trans issue. I win everyday! It's a complete farce. It's so insidious, unlike FOX news, which is obviously just an awfully unhelpful goofy parody of right WING BS, NPR is just SO bad in a very propagandist Orwellian manner. F this world! LOL! Pretty soon, any potential reruns of CAR TALK on NPR channels will be forever canceled due to its lack of diversity!!!

[@LordThree]

Vice? I thought they no longer existed

[@RetroMMA]

Kinda hard to believe this guy is being honest...

[@Freja_Solstheim]

He's not. His income depends on selling videos to the MSM. If he says the "wrong" thing, poof, no more income.

[@RetroMMA]

@@Freja_Solstheim Fair enough.

[@brucedavidson9702]

So what really happened.... ?

[@Ubu987]

Every time I refresh the page, there are fewer comments. Al Gorithm sure is a busy guy!

[@skylanh4319]

They won’t allow people to correct the record. Or even suggest things against the narrative. This was their go to crack down event for years. The only “right wing” violence then had in the mist of blm riots and antifa terrorism.

[@stephenpowstinger733]

Maybe

[@drlobomalo]

3:15 Who was it who decided the name of the event would be "Unite the Right" instead of the more obvious and less inflammatory "Stop the American Taliban-Defend the Lee Statue"? "Unite the Right" sounds like something out of the ADL/SPLC script factory. The interview is mostly snark and speculation.

[@TheWhitehiker]

'Stop the American Taliban' is hardly hateful or 'inflammatory.' Wanna try again?

[@drlobomalo]

@@TheWhitehiker Does that mean you're a champion of statue-toppling?

[@TheWhitehiker]

@@drlobomalo Missed the point, bud.

[@drlobomalo]

@@TheWhitehiker I think the point is on the top of your head. But maybe you were only about five years old in 2017 and you lack understanding of the historical context.

[@TheWhitehiker]

@@drlobomalo I'm 75 and know American history, especially the Civil War era, e.g., Alan Nevins, etc. What historical context were you referring to?

[@joebauers8031]

Talk about a day late and a dollar short…

[@stephenpowstinger733]

Why is telling the whole truth such a difficult thing for the media? Good report.

[@ultimatedab743]

The right wing doesn't counter protest and brutalize leftists like the left does to the right. Counter protesters need to learn self control and discipline. This entire event could have been avoided.

[@Ubu987]

The powers that be didn't want to avoid it. This entire event was orchestrated. Political theatre. J6 was the same.

[@Appleblade]

@@Ubu987 I think you're right about that... Right Wingers do not really have playbooks like the Left.

[@lukefrahn8538]

mighty fine people on all ten sides of these conflicts

[@aristochat3]

The woman died of a heart attack

[@millennialsecularandauthri3338]

Too fat to dodge a dodge

[@justoguillermomontoya3821]

A whale died of a heart attack

[@Appleblade]

His points at the end match my memory of the footage... which has been hard to find again. Rebel News or some similar org's footage made it look like Antifa et al greatly outnumbered the Neo-Nazi types, and the simple statue defenders were caught in the middle trying to escape the lunacy. Then the cops seemed to make it all worse by forcing the permitted protesters (Right wingers) out of the park into the street where all the fighting erupted.

[@milestackettmusic]

Why does this clip not mention it’s an interview with Ford Fisher in the title?

[@Bammer1520]

I hate to break it to you but just because you say Jews will not replace us does not make you a Nazi it might make you a Jew hater but not a Nazi

[@robertfischer1041]

And now all the “Jew Haters” appear to be alive and well at many colleges and universities across the country.

[@donquixote4490]

You don't have to be a "jew hater" either, someone might just be a noticer of patterns.

[@travistucker7317]

​@@donquixote4490haha what's the difference

[@JohnSmith-lf5xm]

Thank you for a interesting interview to another genocide promoter.

[@arvinrunstein5707]

Excellent Nic

[@hawaiidispenser]

Always film everything. Never go to a protest without a bodycam.

[@Ubu987]

Stream the footage to an online server so the Eff Bee Eye can't confiscate and hide it like they did on J6

[@derekwhite9932]

Who organized Charlottesville

[@thomaswatson1739]

Jason Kessler and other right wing orgs

[@derekwhite9932]

@@thomaswatson1739 Jason used to be CNN... Obama supporter

[@derekwhite9932]

@@thomaswatson1739 you are close

[@Ubu987]

The Feds.

[@thomaswatson1739]

@@Ubu987 bullshit. That's some hogwash.

[@Notsram77]

How come this guy looks away every time he makes a point? Hes shifty af.

[@Ubu987]

He's a leftist. Nuff said.

[@justapeasant8949]

"White Nationalism" is a thing that does not make any sense. Having a pasty skin isn't a nationality. Same goes for "Black Nationalism" or whatever. An artificial creation. "Asian Nationalism", or "Latino/South American Nationalism" doesn't even exist in the vocabulary. Nationality, ethnic group and race are all three different things.

[@billstrasburg384]

It's a ridiculous statement. American Nationalism is good. The USA was founded as a great nation. Somalian Nationalism is bad. That place is a crap hole. They are trying to pretend like National Socialism has a problem with the "National" part, and nothing could be further from the truth. Socialism is evil, and it always has been.

[@Poly-ticks-pv6ro]

more trash

[@brycewilson1741]

19 second and no views? You guys really fell off.

[@paradiselosing]

7mins and 2 likes on your comment? You fell off bro.

[@Justin_Beaver564]

Fell off? Because they don't pander to hardcore tribalists?

[@UserUser45654]

@@Justin_Beaver564Oh there‘s tribal pandering going on.

[@afroghair6793]

VSP are traitors.

[@_datapoint]

Ford Fischer is the best.

[@52778mrt]

Cry me a river.

[@RichardKing-sx6xc]

Hail Trump 🙋 Hail Our People 🙋 Hail Victory 🙋 Richard Spencer 😅🤣😆😂