What Really Happened to Amelia Earhart?

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[@laITAebella]

My father recently decided to move and we’re going through old pictures and there was a picture of my great grandmother and great grandfather sitting at a table and opposite them was Amelia Earhart who is staring right at the camera deep into the lens. It was only a few months before she set off on our final journey and it’s so fascinating. I know no one cares but I thought it was cool.

[@fatalis6408]

That’s awesome

[@kolbylocklin1994]

Me

[@kolbylocklin1994]

Where is the photo?

[@capricornshawty2337]

I want to see !!

[@6shordymusic]

Drop the photo

[@seanjoseph8637]

I'm not scared of flying, I'm scared of hitting the ground at high velocity.

[@brummagefs]

Fun fact: landing is the easy part. Takeoff and flying is the hardest part.

[@jasonwilde197]

Don't be scared. It's an instant death. I'm scared of being stuck in Nutty Putty Cave.

[@benmcclarnon9174]

to be fair if your plane broke apart at 30,000ft you would pass out long before hitting the ground

[@DereliqueMahBAWLS]

@@benmcclarnon9174 why do people always say that? What about sky divers?

[@chloe_gospinny]

@@DereliqueMahBAWLS They have oxygen gear.

[@afsces]

What's sad is that her disappearance is the biggest reason she is remembered. Had she made the journey successfully she would still be known but not nearly as well as she is now. Like many people who died in their prime, it's the loss of a tremendous character that keeps her in our memories, as opposed to fading into obscurity.

[@Swearengen1980]

I disagree. Not knowing what happened to her is what keeps it alive. If she just crashed somewhere, died, and we found her the next week....she'd have faded into obscurity the same as if she'd landed. The mystery is what keeps her memory alive.

[@gratefulkyle1]

This is incorrect on so many levels. She was the most famous person of her time. And she would have gotten even bigger after breaking many records.

[@Swearengen1980]

@@gratefulkyle1 That's overkill. The "most famous person" would be known world wide of all ages. You're also assuming she'd have gone on to break more records on pure guesswork, not facts. None of that is known. I'm guessing there were political figures more "famous" than her. Hitler was pretty well known and he started WWII just a couple years later. She wasn't more famous than FDR. Sorry man, but WWII would have completely overshadowed her regardless if she finished or not.

[@warrioroflight758]

@@gratefulkyle1 Charles Lindbergh was the most famous aviator at the time, then Emilia and my personal favorite...Howard hughes

[@yazzieyaz740]

She’ll never be old but young timelessly

[@robertlane6431]

While I love to fly whenever I get the chance I can actually understand why some people are terrified of it. I don't think people are actually afraid of dying in a plane crash but are rather afraid of the plummet towards the ground and the chaos involved! In a car crash it usually happens very fast and is more or less over very quickly whereas a plane crash is alot longer in nature usually and involves a long period of time to be afraid and take in all the terror involved.

[@Sp33dyBeanz]

exactly lol. the last thing i want before i die is a huge panic of people screaming and a prolonged moment of intense fear and stress before i inevitably die. falling out of the sky is one of the worst deaths imo. you better pray to god that you do pass out lmao. same as burning to death or anything that takes time to die. let it be instant haha

[@Maatkara1000]

Joke's on you, I have anxiety - what terrifies me is the "what if", not the fact that it's happening, so I start taking in the terror as soon as I set foot in the plane

[@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis]

I think it’s that combined with a common fear of heights. Falling to death in a large metal tube. Most people would choose to die on the ground than die falling to death.

[@ClickClack_Bam]

Chances are you'll survive a car crash. Chances are you're dead from an airplane. So with me you're wrong, I don't like placing myself into a one way situation where I'm dead if a variable goes wrong.

[@robert17282]

I wouldn't be afraid if they just let me fly it

[@squiddle5193]

This story just feels so hopeless... In the middle of the Pacific, with no proper orientation, no way of communication and with ever dwindling fuel supplies... Truly horrifying.

[@markpayne1748]

There is a part of me that thinks that as our bodies surrender to the environment and its situation, our consciousness goes elsewhere, to party with angels. And then we look down at our loved ones mourning over our barely-breathing bodies, and we think, "I wish I could help them understand that I'm not dead. In fact, I'm now more alive than I've felt in years."

[@SoSaReaper]

@@markpayne1748 go outside

[@Kaelus41]

@@SoSaReaper assuming you've never done any consciousness work

[@Kaelus41]

@@markpayne1748 shake off the angel talk, and you're onto something

[@Blox117]

i would be like "RAMMING SPEEEDD"

[@thabomaofane3400]

"I can't help myself when it comes to useless facts "😂😂😂 Love it

[@winnifredforbes1114]

Never mind! It makes you sound knowledgeable when hanging with your friends at the pub. My problem is, I get the stories mixed up, and no one believes me! 😹😱

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@winnifredforbes1114 He also can't help covering topics dozens of other KZbin channels have covered. He used to be good at providing unusual content... These days he just recycles other people's content - some of the info on the Pacific here is recycled from the Real Life Lore channel for example.

[@maulikbishwokarma6034]

Then u like school,not an insult but yea,well he made it interesting unlike school which is boring

[@d0nKsTaH]

Fives moons people! Five Moons!!

[@ThatGuyNick369]

Enjoyed the video and Amelia Earhart's disappearance has always captivated me. I did notice one slight error in that Alcock was not solo in his flight across the Atlantic. He and Arthur Brown were the first to fly non-stop across the Atlantic in 1919, but it wasn't done by a solo pilot until Charles Lindburgh completed the flight in 1927.

[@afan4840]

Give that man a cigar

[@treposey4107]

Charles Lindbergh is from a town near my hometown in Minnesota 😁

[@MeanBeanComedy]

@@treposey4107 Bet you're proud of that! 😉👍🏻

[@treposey4107]

@@MeanBeanComedy I actually kinda am. In some small, unimportant way 🤣

[@JamminClemmons]

@@afan4840 - You dum-dum Americans! Da Earth is Flat!!!!

[@Iammrspickley]

Greatly enjoying your channel and work Sir...very entertaining, informative, witty and funny......wonderful...!

[@ludoviajante]

This guy can make any subject interesting, it's amazing. Much love from Brazil!

[@7ete799]

Nunca pensei em ver você aqui, ótimo conteúdo

[@andrewg6031]

facts

[@teasgrey4142]

Indeed

[@ThirstysURL]

Even an heroic hotty is interesting when he talks about it

[@ziplague]

five moons dude! 5 moons!

[@lordronin]

Thoughty2 needs a Netflix series

[@thursoberwick1948]

He needs to get fresher topics. I'm seeing him retreading topics which a lot of other channels have covered on here.

[@daproboi7247]

I agree with thruso

[@sicfxmusic]

I prefer him to stay on KZbin because it's free for me 😅

[@insightful_fairy8743]

I prefer KZbin…. Netflix sometimes doesn’t work with slow internet speed!

[@MarkWTK]

@@thursoberwick1948 I guess he'll run out of topics. or someone has to cover it first , but unfortunately or fortunately it wasn't thoughty2.

[@bubbercakes528]

This is the first time I have ever heard about the radio screw up. Amazing that something so simple happened.

[@mickeysmiths]

Many things could have been done better. We are always wiser in hindsight 🤓

[@therainbowwings6852]

I usually find British accent a bit hard to understand but somehow you sound so easy to understand and the way you present the information is so smooth and pleasant as well as easy to understand.

[@oilersridersbluejays]

He has a clean British accent. I’m Canadian and being a Commonwealth country I can understand a Brit as easily as I can understand an American. If you want hard, try understanding a Scot, Irishman, or Welshman, especially if they’re piss drunk. I can but it takes a bit of concentration and a few pints first. Even Northerners near the Scottish border can be tricky at first. Australians and New Zealanders are fairly easy but I still can’t tell them apart. I always ask where they are from before assuming because they get really pissy if you call an Aussie a Kiwi or call a Kiwi an Aussie even though they sound the exact same. Being as I’m from Canada, I have a much harder time understanding Newfies and Quebeckers. Newfies talk way too fast and Quebeckers speak French and I don’t know French.

[@Jess4theMusic]

Although I'm pretty sure they sunk in the depths, I like to imagine they landed somewhere with no way to tell anyone; found a tribe of indeginous people, made friends, figured they might as well stay as they have no way of going home and just chilled out on an island until they died of old age.

[@kingkai5821]

Or be eaten alive by the indigenous people.

[@anitareasontobelieve378]

Since we are indulging fairy tales, let's pretend they married locals and each other and left progeny, and passed away in painless bliss. Maybe somebody should go do some DNA work on those Islands!

[@Kaelus41]

Maybe instead they crafted Mad Max style armor and weapons from the plane wreckage, and they actually ate the indigenous people

[@thursoberwick1948]

There is some good evidence she landed near a small island and starved to death there. Someone found old pictures of what looked like her plane in a lagoon near one.

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@kingkai5821 I find it hilarious that we refer to indigenous people in this context... My ancestors lived in this part of Europe before that part of the Pacific was even inhabited by anyone, but apparently we're not indigenous.

[@ImABigStoner]

you didnt mention they also found a glass jar of freckle cream that emilia was known to use on gardner island, also the remains that were found were scattered around not in one place suggesting the coconut crab theory is more likely.

[@michaelg4074]

You saw that on MrBallen?

[@helenbunnehmummeh5154]

@@michaelg4074 Nothing beats the strange dark and mysterious delivered in story format.

[@dizcret]

Yes...he didn't do his research! ;) but, that Freckle cream..I mean..I find that to be Highly Compelling.

[@agalah408]

"Craaab people....Craaab people..." (Something for the South Park fans)

[@agalah408]

@Gianni Schettino This will explain everything. Maybe the Crab People took Amelia: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWa1inqErLiCprs

[@captainhindsight6994]

Holy crap dude, I remember first hearing about your channel with less than 300k subs. Randomly recommend this and you've got over 4mil. Well done, keep working hard

[@tylertalsma7794]

I've always loved your random facts that you would add here and there.

[@ComicalRealm]

The last time we ever saw Amelia Earhart was in *Night At The Museum 2*

[@DereliqueMahBAWLS]

F A C T S A C T S

[@tommywinehouse1742]

True

[@DereliqueMahBAWLS]

@Catsquatch your username needs to grow up hurr durrr

[@tommywinehouse1742]

@Catsquatch the bedsroom is the only place I'm growing, up. Ba-dum Tsss..

[@Dgnr279]

Haha actually true though

[@matiassu5604]

13:30 "concluded that the remains were of a man and not of interest" Noonan: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@bakedchowdah5708]

seriously though!

[@PurpleLover101]

If noonan was injured enough he could of been buried there and Amelia somehow left the island

[@jonathanemptage1593]

@@PurpleLover101 or she died in a crash Noonan survived for a bit on the island and he buried or cremated her body.

[@sweatyeti]

I learned this from MrBallen's channel: The remains on Gardner island were scattered in a manner as if displaced by animals, and that island happens to be inhabited by large, aggressive, carnivorous crabs that have a keen sense of smell for blood and hunt at night... It's possible this unfortunate castaway was eaten alive by a swarm of coconut crabs.

[@iurhviusdfavhi]

Imagine they find your bones and mark you as "not of interest"...good lord, I mean I know that's the out of context bit but it doesn't sound good lol.

[@05weasel]

I think for a lot of people who have a fear of flying and think that driving is safer it comes down to control and perceived probability. If you’re flying in a plane and it starts to go down there’s basically nothing you as a passenger can do to stop it and you’re almost certainly going to die. Whereas if you’re driving in a car and are about to get in a wreck there’s defensive maneuvers you can take to avoid or lessen the impact. And people survive car crashes all the time.

[@MrASM78]

Exactly.

[@dap4699]

Not all the time...

[@needlesandsonics5819]

That’s my fear of flying. Not afraid of heights, just that I can’t do anything to mitigate the inevitable. I also fear being a passenger in a car, but myself love to drive.

[@alanmcneill2407]

I would add to that, comparisons of air travel vs. car travel have been done on the basis of accidents per MILES traveled. Since the plane travels at 10 times the speed of a car, its not a fair comparison. It should be comparing the amount of TIME spent traveling in each, which in the last item I read, makes air travel more dangerous, like about 3 per cent, which isn't much, granted, but its not correct to say air travel is much safer than car travel. I fly when I must, only in daytime and not in winter. I have experienced two near mid air collisions. I won't tempt a third time lightly.

[@orlandox5665]

Excellent video bro! Thank you.

[@neilsammy3538]

So...Fred doesn't matter? Couldn't the male skeleton have been him? I have known about this incident for a long time, minus Fred, of course.😥

[@sambeck2510]

Yeah, that's what I thought too. Maybe they got stranded there, she died first and he buried her. When he died, there wouldn't be anyone to bury him.

[@imslippykid8834]

Fred was male

[@bobcat227]

@@imslippykid8834 yes, that's what they are talking about

[@tnerbtnerb5136]

Furthermore, the plane being gone isn't a dealbreaker either. They could have made a controlled crash close to the island, bailed with a life raft and the emergency comms radio (which explains transmissions after the fact), and the plane got tossed god knows where by the storm due to its modified light weight before finally breaking up and sinking.

[@athenathechesscub7162]

@@tnerbtnerb5136 i don't believe they actually had any emergency rafts on the plane, but yeah

[@Austeja608]

Island : has recend Signs of recent habitability Pilots: let's not say that

[@Lucius1958]

"Habitation", not "habitability". An island with no fresh water, and limited food resources, cannot exactly be called 'habitable". The physical evidence found on Nikumaroru, imho, tends to support the "castaway" theory. The skeleton may have been Noonan''s; the woman's shoe could certainly have been Earhart's. The plane may have been washed into the sea by a storm, leaving little trace. Unless (or until) a future expedition finds the wreckage of the Electra somewhere else, I'm staying with this theory.

[@paganphil100]

@@Lucius1958 : They also found a jar of "freckle cream".....something which A.E. was known to use regularly. I can't think of any other way it could have got there unless it was hers.

[@BTSmith-lp5pe]

@@paganphil100 so they find a island that had signs of recent habitation but not very habitable... They have found a aluminum plate the plane that they were using would have used, plus a heeled boot in a style AE wore plus freckle cream she also used. Later a body was found and was considered a male (though they may have been female) And concluded they weren't there? Nah that's the island. They just may have left it on a poorly made raft and drowned else where... or time and others have contaminated the island.

[@nathanbrooks2581]

Everybody missed what he said. They didn't know at the time the island was uninhabited. When they didn't find signal fires or the plane they passed by. Had they realized it was uninhabited then it would have been different. But they should have checked anyway. And I have never heard the freckle cream thing anywhere before. And I did a report on Earhart in high school. So I'm very curious where you got that info or if your joking.

[@BTSmith-lp5pe]

@@nathanbrooks2581 He said the island had not been inhabited for decades by that point. So people inhabiting the area (retaliative to that part of the ocean) would know. The pilots wouldn't have to know this but they radio out their findings. Someone would have or should have said something.

[@Unwelcomedpolitics]

This is by far my favorite KZbin channel. It goes over intriguing and interesting parts of history whilst making you laugh.

[@L2H5]

1:45 John Alcock wasn't the first to fly solo nonstop over the Atlantic. He flew with his Navigator nonstop as the first over the Atlantic. The first to fly solo nonstop was Charles Lindbergh.

[@bonerici]

Yeah but it's nice to see the name alcock nobody remembers him they remember Lindberg so I can forgive the mistake

[@L2H5]

@@bonerici yea its a shame that society forgot his name

[@thecreamyone3606]

Lindbergh was the 28th

[@L2H5]

@@thecreamyone3606 I dont know what you mean. Was he the 28th to fly ower the atlantic nonstop? But what I know is that Lindbergh was the first to fly solo nonstop over the Atlantic. Solo means alone that means he had no navigator on board or sommeone else.

[@willnenni7798]

I was looking for this comment

[@fullthrottlewrx]

Arran you have a spectacular way of presenting your videos - just when i think the story is finished, I realize the video is only halfway through! EVERY video is like this and its absolutely amazing! you wrap up the stories in such a way that i come back for every new video. i hope you continue to grow your channel and enjoy the well deserved success.

[@erossinema8797]

He's got that IT factor. Good storyteller, despite the snooty accent

[@godzilla2832]

Every thoughty2 video feels like an entertaining documentary

[@DoggosAndJiuJitsu]

What everyone misses about the "fear" of flying is it's an absolute death sentence if something completely out of your control goes wrong.

[@chibicthulhu4382]

I literally was never taught in school that Amelia wasn’t alone on that flight…

[@BabishForIdiots]

Because it is feminist propaganda

[@athenathechesscub7162]

yeah, i believe it's mostly becayse she is most famous for flying over the atlantic ocean SOLO, but that doesn't change that when she died she was with another person

[@gabrielsfilms2086]

@@BabishForIdiots no dude as athenathechess cub said its bc she was famouse for flying over the Atlantic solo

[@chibicthulhu4382]

@@athenathechesscub7162 yeah that’s probably where the confusion comes from

[@TheBlackAxe1]

She was THE pilot and Noonan was the navigator. So technically, yes, she flew solo as they did not trade off on the controls.

[@jenniferholden9397]

Well done for mentioning poor old Fred Noonan, the forgotten man.

[@TheDarkSkorpion]

Yep. So forgotten that when they found the body of a man, they were just like " Nope, not Amelia!" and tossed it to the side. Edit - Oops, 2 year old comment. Oh well, I stand by it.

[@luksusbeistet]

@@TheDarkSkorpion I think they ruled out Noonan pretty fast, since he was over 6 feet tall. The bones found was somewhat shorter and couldn't have been his.

[@norrona5923]

Earhart was one of my childhood heroes. I wasn't that interested in her death until I grew up, and thinking about it just made me sad, so she left my thoughts. When I see content relating to her, I feel some nostalgia. I hope she is found and brought home.

[@peteywheatstraws4909]

Man "in search of" got me into this.

[@joelburnham4564]

I have also heard that she crashed in Papua New Guinea, and survived. The reason why no one knew about this is because Papua New Guinea is a dense, remote jungle and the natives who only spoke Melanesian Pidgin and other various languages, (since there are 800+) they wouldn't have known about Amelia's Trip, and likely Amelia and Noonan died in the jungle while living with the Papua New Guinean natives. A lot of this stuff I know because I have lived in Papua New Guinea and have heard these things multiple times over. (Just a thought)

[@kylesunderman6489]

I've been listening to this guy for years... would have sworn his name was Fourty Two...

[@tandyssection1239]

that's the pun, since 42 is the answer to life the universe and everything in hitchhikers guide to the galaxy. It's meant to sound the same

[@thursoberwick1948]

Not this again.

[@jamespierce1209]

Mandela effect? Ooohhhh

[@vampireslayer3821]

"Skeleton found was most likely male". Did we forget about Noonan already? Why couldn't it have been Noonan?

[@mcmacshalfilya]

That would be a crucial point. For SURE

[@TTFerdinand]

The bones found didn't match Noonan's height. In a 1998 report to the American Anthropological Association, researchers, including a forensic anthropologist and an archaeologist, concluded, "What we can be certain of is that bones were found on the island in 1939-40, associated with what were observed to be women's shoes and a navigator's sextant box, and that the morphology of the recovered bones, insofar as we can tell by applying contemporary forensic methods to measurements taken at the time, appears consistent with a female of Earhart's height and ethnic origin. (Wikipedia)

[@timvanvoorhis5732]

Great stuff man , best story of the night 🌙

[@oliversherman2414]

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!

[@daniell1483]

Fair presentation of the available evidence. However, I disagree and think Gardener Island is Amelia Earheart's final destination for a simple reason: some cosmetic that Amelia used to conceal her freckles was found on Gardener Island. Sure, discount the boot, discount the metals, discount the SOS triangulation. But the exact brand of freckle cream she was famous for using?

[@thursoberwick1948]

You'd really need to recover it for DNA and fingerprinting... However, I suspect it was a) rusty and b) covered in other people's fingerprints when recovered.

[@alexanderordinary2110]

ya, I remember that, was thinking the same, most likely at gardner

[@daniell1483]

@@thursoberwick1948 You are probably right and I doubt the freckle cream was spared the ravages of time in such a wet place, surrounded by the ocean. It isn't conclusive proof, but after so many years, I think anything conclusive (regardless of the location) has probably been destroyed.

[@PK-Radio]

Maybe the crabs got her

[@connordougherty9860]

@@PK-Radio that’s what I heard !

[@doylela7891]

Thoughty2 can literally make a 1 hour video about salt and i’ll watch it all the way through, thats just how good he is at making anything interesting

[@oilersridersbluejays]

Salt is pretty important and interesting actually. It’s literally everywhere and in food we eat. And we add it to our food. I’m a salt fiend myself.

[@amexicanandaredneckfathert365]

Super thankful for KZbin channels like this channel.

[@baschoen23]

That was thorough! Totally satisfied my need for Amelia Earhart information for the morning.

[@ComradeMeow]

"You, like me, are a citizen of Earth" Who else is watching this from Mars in 2091?

[@adrianenciso612]

Ahhh remember the old planet?

[@FizzlyCandy]

Yeah. It was a nice one

[@hazza8656]

damn rest up old earth we will reclaim it back from the monkeys

[@bigsquatch]

Proxima Centuri in 2574!

[@spencerbrown7915]

Wait u guys are still on mars?

[@marsupius]

I already knew this story. But I wanted to hear Thoughty2 tell it.

[@ProNinjaHax]

I literally looked around my house when that beeping started LOL

[@YourPeepingTom]

i'ma recently acquired viewer, I like your stuff so far mate! keep up the good work \o/

[@StrLab]

Electra was a person in the Greek mythology, she killed her mother to avenge the murder of her father! A tragic fate for both Electras...

[@dwlopez57]

Actually, the Lockheed Electra as well as the Buick Electra were named after a relative of famed Texas cattleman WT Waggoner.

[@theoneeyedartist3253]

Never name your vessel after a greek myth. The Medusa, The Titanic, The Electra...

[@GemBonhamHorton]

I love how excited you get over odd facts the 5 moons was cool

[@HeyItzZedd]

i was just watching thoughty2's hand movements and i gotta say i feel like he could try out to be the next Doctor Who.

[@jeremycunningham7897]

This was brilliant- thanks!

[@mollydugan6144]

I love how Thoughty2 can’t help himself when it comes to useless facts

[@tommywinehouse1742]

We all love it. Because we all love useless facts but we're lazy as fuck. And he condenses and makes them the best and entertains us during 👍

[@HellNoMoreBiden]

It doesn't look like we'll ever find the wreck until they decide to map the ocean floor.

[@strodey123]

They still can't find MH370 even while mapping alot of the ocean floor

[@jeromyw8075]

@@strodey123 We've only mapped about 5% of the ocean floor. That's not a lot.

[@kingartison]

@@jeromyw8075 you believe that?

[@jeromyw8075]

@@kingartison Do you realize how vast the ocean is? Yes, I believe that out of the 1.3 Billion cubic km of ocean on Earth that we've only mapped 5% of it. Which still is 65 million kubic meters.

[@kingartison]

@@jeromyw8075 if you stand by it I’m forced to respect it

[@luccaventurini1011]

I only heard about that in Friends

[@TheChampy2012]

I am a new sub. 😊 The Earhart mystery has always fascinated me greatly. I love her! I enjoyed this video very much and am looking forward to many more. 🤗

[@patrickbanks3087]

Thank you so much for the stories and all the research you do to tell them, awesome detail. Keep up the good work!!

[@GibbHuckley]

This mystery is so thick that for now, I prefer to imagine her in the Delta quadrant, circa 2371. If we ever learn what really happened, this will destroy one of the best Voyager episode ever, The 37's.

[@adalmartinez2340]

I Loved that episode too

[@leonstanic3960]

🖖

[@mariakelly1059]

@@adalmartinez2340 When Captain Janeway tells Amelia that it's common knowledge (in Janeway's time) that Amelia and Fred were spying for the U.S., Amelia gets very upset and says "that was supposed to be a secret!"

[@justathought958]

My Own Take On The Amelia Earhart Story I base my own "theory" on aviation fuel consumption. When the U.S.S. Itasca, the Coast Guard cutter assigned to assist Earhart and navigator Fred Noonan, heard them on the radio, searching for Howland Island, the signal was so strong it could only mean they were very close. The signals also indicated that Earhart was flying too low for any view of Howland Island, the tiny speck of land on which they were to refuel for the jump to Hawaii. Why so low? Turns out that while the skies were reported totally CLEAR, there WERE large groups of cloud cover to the northwest. This suggests they were flying low to get under the cloud cover. The truth about matters was, they were about right where they were supposed to be and, given the fuel consumption of Earhart's Electra 10A aircraft, they had more than sufficient fuel to search for Howland and the Itasca for OVER four additional hours. They could calculate all this quite well aboard the ship, and thus when Amelia went silent, they PRESUMED she still had those FOUR hours left. While transmissions ended around 8 am, the official search involving both a battleship and an aircraft carrier and it's planes, did not BEGIN until noon. They waited those four hours. But wait..........DID she really have four more hours of fuel? Clearly NOT! So what did she do with the other four hours worth, totaling some 520 additional miles? It has been "alleged", "speculated", etc., that she and Fred were shot down and captured, maybe tortured, doubtlessly killed, by the Japanese, who DID control all those islands our forces had to deal with a few years later. The concept is that they were caught spying! No one EVER suggests that Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan WERE successful in obtaining photos of the island bases located either around Tarawa (which they nearly flew right over on the planned route they INDICATED they would be flying) or ONLY 400 miles to the NORTH of her route, in the Marshall islands? She could have carried just a bit more fuel or even with what she had to spare, could have angled up towards the Marshalls and then back down again. Only on the way back, looking desperately for Howland, they now realized they'd cut it TOO fine. (There IS another unsubstantiated claim out there that they "may" have been shorted or chose to short themselves a bit of fuel. This rumour kind of DOES fit with the rest of my silly old theory.) Anyway, that's what I think. I can't get my head around why a battleship AND an aircraft carrier would both be so "available" over a supposed private enterprise such as Earhart's flight, no matter who was involved or who knew who. Yet there they were, on station. Nor can I get my head around the notion that they arrived so very close to the Itasca, just over the horizon perhaps, in storm clouds but with FOUR HOURS OF FUEL TO BURN. Make no mistake. The fuel calculations, available online, are clear and no one has ever challenged these. Yet, few "theorists" seem to explain it away. In fact not one that I'm aware of has even attempted to do so. Until now. Note that the person is Daniel Bartlow Hart. Meeeeeeeeee! I think they ran short of fuel after COMPLETING their reconnaissance mission and ended up crashing, the film unrecoverable. That's what I think happened to Amelia and Fred and if I'm right, then under MY theory, we can honor them for a lot more than what otherwise can only be labeled a very bad idea executed by incompetents. I prefer my view, but who knows or ever will unless and until the Electra rises from the sea covered in weed. Gosh that would be scary!

[@edward9643]

Read my reply if you want the skinny

[@edward9643]

U are correct about the claim of spying - from what I know she was asked, as part of her patriotic duty to do what she could for the war effort

[@mariakelly1059]

Very interesting post!

[@yup8865]

She had family that had a house right next to my childhood home. Some of her family is buried across from the street where I use to live. When I was little these old folks lived there and told us a few stories about it. Really small old cold mining town.

[@thejuhlerofdk]

Thank you for making these videos, Arran - They are always entertaining.

[@courage7638]

The quality of this channels content is growing with every upload.

[@tba113]

As does the quality of his moustache.

[@Daseinn]

Eh, it's been the exact same for years (which is good, because it fits so well)

[@anunentitledmotivatedmille7731]

I remember this channel from way back in 2005

[@inyrui]

@@Daseinn i think the editing is a little better than it used to be, seems more visually engaging

[@riomouris4767]

Have a look at his very first video, besides the lack of as many visuals, the quality of his videos were really good even then!

[@27Zangle]

I remember a few years back talk about a local population on some island who had stated there was an aircraft stuck in the reef for a couple decades or some number of years before it finally slid off the reef and into the depths. I've always thought the plane was able to crash into the waters and likely floated for a few days before finally going under, perhaps off the coast of a small island where they made a final stand for survival.

[@cursedkomodo]

That's genuinely so interesting, I always wonder how people don't know about little things like that despite searching so hard.

[@andrewharvey3282]

42 bringing the gravitas at the end there, I dig.

[@junfangaiden]

I love how well You've developed acting skills throughout your videos, only makes it more immersive.

[@matthewcarroll6640]

Hell yeah!!! You did it!! Thanks Thoughty2! Keep em coming and as always. Love the Moustache!!

[@aboutface7961]

almost everyday I walk past the former WW1 hospital where Amelia worked in 1918 as a nurse (in Toronto). She also caught the 'Spanish flu' here that year. And returned in the 1930's to attend a dinner and do a speech.

[@user-hu9fr2ib3d]

Love your videos, second one have watched! Going to watch all the other videos you have. Thank you!

[@katelynmartinez6217]

I got sick so I watched this because my history teacher is teaching this so thank you cuz now I know and I’m not missing out

[@walcodebruyn2135]

Hey Thoughty2 i missed you just what i needed after a crappy day thanks for this!

[@flvnn.mp4]

I hope you're having a better day...

[@Chalky.]

A few hundred more years and I'm sure Captain Janeway will find her.

[@SomeAustrianPainter]

I’m so drunk I thought you said Caitlyn Jenner

[@TheKaffeekatze]

I'd say "what a weird episode" but which part of Voyager wasn't

[@TwistedSoul2002]

@@TheKaffeekatze Voyager >>>> Picard >>>> Discovery

[@jgobroho]

@@TheKaffeekatze hey at least this episode didn't involve Paris and Janeway turning into giant salamanders and mating on some world lol. That episode still pisses me off at how dumb it was lol.

[@mrpddnos]

The stupidest thing about this whole episode is that anyone finding someone in stasis who is armed, would check the other bodies for arms too. At least, that would be an understandable reaction. 🙄

[@essbe7158]

Great video. I don't think you mentioned it, but I believe a person on a ship took a picture of that island and it showed something that could have been an engine from her plane.

[@eabutler6861]

love your shows.... very interesting and well presented. No woo woo conspiracy nonsense, even though you mention them out of fairness. I love this channel.

[@buckaroobanzai2551]

Dude you've been covering all of my favorite "mysteries" recently. Love it and your content!

[@hylianhero2074]

Did he cover db cooper?

[@TheBlackAxe1]

@@hylianhero2074 Yes he did.

[@mariakelly1059]

Buckaroo, how are you? I love your movie!

[@buckaroobanzai2551]

@Maria Kelly Just taking a break from driving through mountains and playing sweet concerts to watch some KZbin.

[@TudorOwen50s]

We done!!!!! Good summaries of the theories!... and the soft music at the end provided a mood of hopeful resolution to this mystery! "Fish swimming through the cockpit..." nice touch! :-)

[@barryervin8536]

Back in the mid 60s I attended the Ogontz campus of Penn State University, which originally was The Ogontz School For Girls. Most of the buildings were new but the original building was still in use and I had some classes there. The classrooms was like a 19th century time capsule, still with the old fashioned wooden desks. Most of the desks were covered with old names scratched into the wood, many of them names that nobody names their kids any more. I used to try to sit at a different desk every time and spend my time during the incredibly boring classes looking for Amelia's name and wondering if I was sitting in her old seat. Just a trivial old memory.

[@KassieR329]

I live in Atchison where she was born and there are so many theories that go around. but either way, she's a staple for our small town, giving life to a festival every August called the Amelia Earhart Festival.

[@jrmoore3692]

Thoughts 2, you’re the man, I love these vids, keep up the good work homie

[@eddiecharles6457]

01:52 - Alcock was flying solo? I can't find any reference of Arthur Brown being thrown out of the aircraft! I'm quite sure the first person to fly solo across the Atlantic was Charles Lindbergh in 1927.

[@nofrackingzone7479]

It’s the Mandela effect. You thought Lindbergh was the first…. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5PcgHmBoquCiK8

[@danielbradley5255]

I was just thinking about what a big deal Lindbergh and his flight between north America and Europe was cause of how it was we supposed to be the first?

[@cdeford]

I've always been bothered by the distinction. Alcock did all the flying. Brown was navigator but the weather was bad and he only managed one sextant reading. Lindbergh's flight 8 years later in a custom-built plane was a great achievement but was not, to my mind, a greater one.

[@theenquiringone7353]

@@cdeford Does the fact that Lindbergh didn't have a windshield of any kind, and navigated by looking out of a telescope on the port side of his aircraft impress you at all?

[@cdeford]

@@theenquiringone7353 I didn't say I wasn't impressed, I said I don't rate his achivement as MORE impressive than Alcock and Brown's.

[@arisdelfino9955]

Really reminds me of the song "Someday well know"..🙌🙏

[@danlerch8680]

My kid got an Amelia Earhart Lego set for Christmas. Thank you for giving me an amazing bedtime story to go with it. Well done as always, sir.

[@BeeDub57]

No, she ended up on an episode of Star Trek: Voyager.

[@krisfellows7663]

Ha ha. I remember watching that

[@1pcfred]

She's a 37!

[@MCsCreations]

Very true!

[@Silvaria928]

Thank you, I was about to say this but I wanted to see if anyone else had already. Well played.

[@rockstarluvv]

Well duh obviously there are no other explanations

[@mwindasaboi6039]

As always, captivating and intriguingly epic narration.

[@mariusanton143]

Your voice is so soothing, it gives the video a magical feeling.

[@martinjohnston4320]

How can people dislike a video like this. Information and knowledge is what makes the internet valuable. Learn about things people

[@TheEpicBeastyGamerPlays]

Thoughty2 you are a storytelling legend man - great laughs as always too. 😁👍👌

[@aadamtx]

George Carlin said he never wanted to be on a nonstop flight - when he got to his destination, the flight should stop. You should look into doing a video on Bessie Coleman, the first African-American and Native American aviatrix.

[@rhark25]

He also said that he didn't want to get on the plane. He wanted to get IN the plane!

[@mellie4174]

Yes!

[@kingjames7904]

How am I not subscribed??? I’ve been subbed to thoughty2 for like 4+ years

[@tang0561]

I'm probably one of the few who believe that she actually survived and made it back to the United States and lived under a different name until she actually died, nother thing about this whole story is that there is no mention of Noonan, it's almost like he's been forgot from the history, after all he was the co-pilot, plus only one set of bones where ever found on the island and it's was never proven to be her or his bones, so this is one reason I believe she survived and return home living under another name, plus if she disappears, she remembered forever, but if she's found well, maybe she not talked about as much and soon forgotten. Now I have no way of knowing for sure one way or the other, it's just speculation on my part and a theory.

[@koretechx1]

What about the jar of skin cream that Amelia was known to use being found on that island? Near an old campfire? And the pieces of scattered human bones that were collected side from the skeleton?

[@josephsedqy8168]

Nah she just crashed and died. Nothing cool

[@hbbheartbreakrecords6897]

@@foolonthrn not gonna lie i actual would organise it for me

[@chadhumphries1445]

@@foolonthrn coconut crabs are like all other crabs. They don't randomly attack people.

[@kryptopb8656]

@@chadhumphries1445 yeah but once you die they’ll come and eat your body either way

[@theskiller2217]

@@kryptopb8656 yummy

[@donm5354]

3:42 WOW! I didnt realize their heads were so huge and stuck out the top of the plane !

[@herrschmidt5477]

peoples were much smarters 500 jers bag

[@brandonsmith1968]

Great stuff

[@bagamingcyprus8956]

fun fact, the pic if the itasca 6:13 the backround image was taken in cyprus near the ship wreck edro 3

[@danechristmas6570]

I always thought the Japanese capture theory was the most plausible, then came Thoughty2 and dated the infamous photo..lol!

[@sideeffectzrundberg323]

Jesus mate. The alarm sound at 7:22 when the fuel tank goes low really got me. Thought my fire alarm started

[@aclown311]

Great video!

[@jimmyfiddlesticks337]

When planes crash into bodies of water, they usually break like a bullet and glass with the bullet being the ocean and the glass being the plane. I would not be surprised if that sheet of metal and heel of a boot were from the the crash. If you wanted to find other pieces follow the currents from around their last rough location scouring the seabed for any pieces of plane, clothing or possibly body.

[@12Ger13]

"Did I mention the Pacific is big?" Yes you did bro, 5 MOONS!!!!!

[@david.e.miller]

I'm reminded of the last flight of Antoine de Saint-Exupéry. They did finally find part of his airplane in the Mediterranean. But what exactly caused the crash remains a mystery.

[@The_Bermuda_Nonagon]

There's a somewhat hard to find book called EARHART'S FLIGHT INTO YESTERDAY worth reading but the story behind it is interesting. It was written by Laurance Safford. He was one of the top American codebreakers in the Pacific during WW2. So this book is written by a man with extensive experience with 1930's radio technology and radio direction finding. He passed away before it was published and the manuscript was literally saved from a garbage can at his house. I wondered if Robert Ballard had read it before his expedition to locate her airplane.

[@thomasegner6111]

anyone know about betty’s notebook? A girl heard an SOS on her radio so she wrote down everything she heard. It says stuff like “amelia” “help”

[@Polcar1]

Of course we know we're more likely to be in a car accident but a car accident doesn't involve dropping from the sky while you scream in terror, utterly helpless, with a load of strangers waiting to die in a big explosion.

[@snooby5538]

i just started watching this guy and im obsessed

[@ALCRAN2010]

This other guy's channel "That Chapter" has the same presentation style, but is about crime stories...

[@thecreamyone3606]

Hes the shit 💕

[@MrGnuh]

nothing will be able to prepare you for the "no mustache" videos.

[@adamrivera2499]

For real I wish he would have teached history when I was n school

[@thecreamyone3606]

@@adamrivera2499 English woulda been good also

[@shotboom3479]

15:33 could be fish pressing the buttons

[@reggiesoundbox4923]

So much information in just 1 video.