Why Can Nobody Solve the Mystery of the Man in the Suit?

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[@WhoCares-zk3il]

Okie dokie

[@jomckellan]

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[@barrycaplin1394]

Shove your sponsor. Its garbage. KZbinrs that have sponsor don't care about their viewers only money!

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

*Arren, you're so cute when you smile!*

[@1rstTry]

Melbourne is pronounced “Melbin”

[@disgruntledwookie369]

The way he was found, sitting with his legs extended and cross, leaning against the sea wall, facing out to sea, with an unlit cigarette on his shoulder... sounds pretty obviously like he knew he had been poisoned and went to sit on the beach for one last ciggy and a sunset. It smacks of him being a trained spy or something. They exist in real life too, not just James Bond :D

[@evans3636]

Or that after being poisoned, was positioned as such as so to delay the discovery that he was in fact dead.

[@righty-o3585]

If he had been poisoned, he more than likely would have vomited all over. Because the human body will react in ways to get rid of anything that is toxic to the body. Not to mention that most anything toxic enough to kill somebody will also show signs of other side effects. Like discoloration, burns, rashes. Muscular reactions. Because the body is fighting death.

[@beholdtheman3161]

@My names Jeff If she had actually killed him why appear so distressed? I think she was surprised he was dead and just learning about it at that point hence the uncontrolled reaction.

[@Kaizen_Kai]

@@beholdtheman3161 She could be acting.

[@beholdtheman3161]

@@Kaizen_Kai I don't think so, if she indeed killed him I think the best reaction would be no reaction at all, behave as though she had never seen him before and none would be the wiser, by acting so visceral she gave away the fact that she was connected to him somehow. My point being she didn't know he was dead because she didn't kill him, someone else did.

[@Chrochella]

As soon as you said all the labels had been removed from the clothing, it can be assumed this man was a clandestine operative. Labels are removed from operative’s clothing so it can’t be traced back to the country/region/area where it was purchased which can potentially compromise the operative. Personally, I think the man either poisoned himself or was poisoned by someone else. They’ll never find his true identity. Most likely his family (if he had one) was quietly notified of his death and were warned not to talk about it by the government he worked for.

[@1-eye-willy]

My grandpa took the labels out of his shirts because they would irritate his skin.

[@sierrahall8791]

@@1-eye-willy OR your grandpa was a spy and you never knew. 👀

[@sussybaka3370]

for some reason this case is share so many similiarities with another case about a woman who was found burnt I think in a mountain, she was also probably a spy, I don't remember where it was but she didn't have tags in her clothes and also a lot of suspicious behavior

[@easyenetwork2023]

@@sussybaka3370 The Isdal woman. Buzzfeed went through that and figured she was likely a spy.

[@Lovelyclarii]

@@easyenetwork2023 those Unsolved episodes always send me down a rabbit hole lol

[@hypeboynwjns]

Arran: "His pockets were empty" Also Arran: "Aside from unused 2nd class rail tickets, a pack of gum, a limousine, the Taj Mahal, the Qutb Minar, the Basilisk from the Chamber of Secrets and the Sun."

[@pleaseusernamework]

XD big lol

[@alienfriend4658]

LOL😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@rishikeshnegi]

He probably meant that usual belongings such as a wallet, identity card, money, etc were missing from his pockets.

[@ilanamillion8942]

I have never understood how this man was not identified by someone. This is not a criticism of the police but the photos of him are so good that anyone who had ever met him would recognize him. It's amazing how many cases like this there are.

[@sadev101]

its newsworthy was inn austalia. so not many people outside australia know of it. i know of none in my country. so if he was frmo outside australia he would not be recognised ...maybe this video wil be seen by someone who recognises.

[@jessicafain6630]

Right!? Seems like people who knew the woman would have been interviewed. Surely her family and aquaintances would know if it had been her boyfriend or something.

[@luvprue1]

I think the lady they spoke to might have recognized him, but didn't say nothing .

[@luvprue1]

@@jessicafain6630 The woman was might have been married at the time so it possible that he was her lover, or husband. Did they check to see if he had been poisoned?

[@moriakpotato]

@@luvprue1 He said in the video that the man had signs of poisoning but no poison was found.

[@antonmarkov1635]

He didn’t smoke. He was a fit man and his heart was in perfect condition. The cigarettes and matches were placed there to explain the presence of nicotine in his system. Liquid nicotine can be an effective poison.

[@xnirvanaXnevermindx]

i think someone who dies from nicotine would die in anguish and the corpse would reflect that

[@CY3ER]

Yeah sounds like they were placed there as pocket litter

[@zp944]

Sounds more like a mob or gang murder

[@kyuubipie8279]

@@CY3ER the way he was positioned shows he wasn’t set there, because of rigor mortis.

[@antoniaowns]

Oooo I like the way you think❤️

[@jonathangardner8306]

There needs to be a follow-up video as it looks like the Somerton Man has been at least tentatively identified as Carl Webb via DNA testing.

[@jordancooke5980]

That's right. An electrical engineer

[@karmica7591]

Thank you so much, I need to look for the news now! I was hoping they had answers, seeing that the video is a bit old.

[@RandomBradCreator]

Yes indeed

[@philxray666]

He wasn't sitting there facing a rising sun, Somerton Beach looks out over St Vincent's Gulf westward, so if he was still alive before dark he managed to watch a setting sun instead for the last time.

[@poeter14]

poetic

[@curtiskretzer8898]

that is how it appeared on the proffered map

[@ducks7015]

Damn. That somehow makes the story better

[@username65585]

Tamam shud

[@sandy-quimsrus]

Spot on

[@jeroenjager8064]

The day the video starts with "This video is kindly sponsored by your mom" I pledge to your patreon.

[@thejudgmentalcat]

Me too mate. Make it happen, Thoughty!

[@tdegrddeehjgd]

Now I feel it is my life's duty to start a business called "Yurmom" and sponsor one of this guy's videos.

[@roninj8205]

😄😄😄

[@coolcattle5221]

Same

[@CrisMind]

There's a place near me that's called "Your Mom's House" maybe they could sponsor, it's close enough

[@folgore1]

Just saw the Thoughty2 vid on "Isdal Woman" yesterday. It's uncanny how similar these two cases are even though they couldn't possibly be related! Wonderfully weird mysteries! Edit: A thought that occurs to me is, are the peculiar ears and teeth more common to certain ethnicities?

[@bazincesar6181]

Thought the same and went down the comments! Maybe the common denominator is a common motus operandi that I Secret Services would dispatch of spies ?

[@No-oj5ow]

Ikr when he said the clothes stuff it rung a bell in my head

[@tommymarco]

remembered the isdal woman immediately as had only see it this past week . the moment the clothes missing labels were mentioned , and so many other similar things .

[@kellyblack2010]

Same I saw the that video too yesterday… this I starting to sound more like a serial killer/copycat or a group with the same “signature” of removing identifying information from the victims and seamingly planting evidence that doesn’t add up to confuse the cops. The fact that the woman after 50 years still seemed afraid to tell who the man was suggest that it’s probably a organization because the actual killer probably was long dead by then or at least very elderly as she wa at the time. This sounds like something an fbi profiler would have to solve

[@masonrz]

The two might be related in some way. unidentifiable person, mysterious death, labels removed from clothes, few items on the person (none of which can identify the person), suite case left at a train station with items in that also can not be used to identify the person (labels removed as well), both were close to military/rocket sites 10:16 (nuclear rocket range) in this case and the "Isdal Woman" was also thought to have followed the penguin missile testing locations. That might also explain why the nurse was so scared to talk, since she knew the man from seeing him and might have been involved in his death in some way (or saw the murder at least), so she knew/saw the dangerous people that was after the man and wanted her name to stay out of anything related to the case in fear that they might come after her (also her reaction when she saw the man's face tells me that she was just a bystander that got dragged into this, since a trained person would not react that way in order to avoid suspicion). the same group might have gone after the Isdal Woman as well hence the similarities in how the bodies and their artefacts were found. Sounds like a conspiracy theory, but the similarities are just to close

[@presidentelectcoleman2205]

"His pockets were empty, except, a pack of gum, his phone, a Volkswagen beetle, the leaning tower of pizza, and mars"

[@avicennitegh1377]

lmao

[@RobMacKendrick]

A leaning tower of pizza would in fact be noteworthy.

[@monkeytennis7477]

That made me laugh, thanks.

[@peggyjaeger9280]

🤣🤣🤣

[@PaulVRo]

Pisa, not pizza lol

[@DerdnikTheHero]

"His pockets were empty except for the myriad of items in his pockets"

[@iGame613]

Haha I lol'ed at that too after he listed 7-8 items haha

[@faulkgough1768]

um.. with the myriad of shit I carry every day.. yeah no.. two scraps of paper, some gum, and some smokes... thats empty. and, also in the context of if you have ever heard about beach guy before... and, really, any normal mystery dead person... he had nothing on him.

[@jaybee7075]

Ha

[@desperado3236]

Thats still not nothing. Even if something would constitute things like cards and a wallet; thats a shitload of items and far from nothing. Face it, it was worded badly.

[@jaybee7075]

I got it ,ex German SS tried to hide in aussie got bit by something poisonous, died like the Hans wank wankle , the signs are so obvious or some Aussie dude found out and killed him, it's called don't fuck with the land down under

[@StanleyKuo184]

What I love about the case of the Somerton Man is the seemingly neverending trail of evidence that ultimately ended up leading to nowhere. Even a mystery novel can't conjure this many twists in one case.

[@j.dragon651]

Fiction has to make sense.

[@ibmlenovo1]

I can blame one man surely, for being unpolicelike The policeman who contacted the nurse for the first time, for not reporting her reaction or for not probing her further or for not investigating professionally.

[@hotimportknight]

I would have brought her in for questioning at the very least, if not the only suspect and arrest. As soon as I heard about that huge lead being left to die, I was pissed.

[@alexiswilliamsinc]

I thought the same until I responded to someone else’s comment: The police might have found out she was in danger and they didn’t release more details, making it seem like she just didn’t know anything. The officer kept quiet even with the amateur who tried to solve the case and cut contact. Either he was weirded out, being super professional, or he knew not to divulge the real situation if dangerous people were still out there.

[@whoarethebrainpigs]

yep,,dumbfuck plods,,and we're still employing them on big pay today...

[@b0ne91]

There's a good chance she told the almost retired detective that he was abusive, so she chose to poison him to protect herself and her (his) son. He then chose to stop investigating, because he figured the man deserved to die and the case was cold anyway.

[@whoarethebrainpigs]

@@b0ne91 well the case wasnt cold at that time,,and thats not the way criminal investigations are supposed to be conducted,,,she obviously. knew him and just didnt want to co-operate and the cops didnt seem to bother pursuing her,,very strange, thought they would got have obtained a warrant to search her house at least,,apparently she told the cops she didnt want to be questioned about it and they left it at that !!!I must remember that tactic next time I murder someone.,,,

[@Orangelisted]

1:52 "And his pockets were empty... except for several things that he had in his pockets"

[@joelrobert4539]

😂

[@jothishprabu8]

💀💀💀💀💀

[@kimg9676]

My mother grew up in Somerton when he was found and to this day, it’s one mystery I would love to see solved. There are regular ‘Somerton Man’ tours that are well attended.

[@YouTuber-ep5xx]

So there's a chance Somerton Man, to you, is Great Grandpa.

[@kimg9676]

@@KZbinr-ep5xx definitely not.

[@Kenzingo]

It’s been solved. Look it up

[@whittar]

@@Kenzingo High possibility it's been solved but not official yet.

[@MuhammadEssaMagsi]

charles webb

[@damienkarney2251]

I live in little old Adelaide and the general consensus here is that he was a spy. I didn’t know about the latest developments though, so thanks for the update 42.

[@Highbudget]

Yeah I live there too, I like how thoughty calls our suburbs, "towns"

[@damienkarney2251]

@@Highbudget ikr, a town called Henley Beach 😂

[@CailenCambeul]

@@Highbudget He's right for 1949. For example, even in the early 60's, Main South Road was a dirt road when heading out towards Port Noarlunga. In the 70's, Outer Harbour was way out with vacant land separating it. Jetty Rd Glenelg neighbouring Somerton Beach, neighbouring Jetty Rd Brighton - all within walking distance but quite separate in those days because of the lack of transport, and now just tourist traps for the locals to avoid. Nowadays, Adelaide and it's satellite cities are just an ever expanding suburbia.

[@Highbudget]

Maybe in the 1800’s and early 20th century he’d be right but Adelaide was quiet developed by 1950, there were established suburbs all the way between the CBD and Henley beach , I can’t find any info saying whether Henley beach and Glenelg were considered towns or suburbs around that time

[@jurybery]

@@CailenCambeul tourist traps closing at like 7pm at summer. Being empty. Not sure about the touristy part. While i lived there and i liked it, it is missing its potential...

[@Dante-fb9ej]

This guy was most definitely a spy. Either that, or he was a poor, poor tourist at the wrong place at the wrong time.

[@ianfarr-wharton1000]

A poor tourist that went to Wolf Creek.

[@hamstrungharry259]

@@BenOvor Yooooooooooooooooooooo. That... would explain alot.

[@13thcentury]

@@hamstrungharry259 alots are well dangerous. Nasty bite

[@CORNERSUNDERATTACK]

@@ianfarr-wharton1000 Wolfe creek in WA is a long way from the Somerton beach in SA…. 2500kms in fact

[@akramgimmini8165]

*RED SPY IN THE BASE*

[@dionysius3738]

I love how there was someone who just straight up obviously knew who they were but was lying and they were just like “welp sorry for bothering you fainting lady”

[@xxxxx262]

The fact no family member ever claimed him as an educated nice looking guy with lots of publicity means he had none or they were instructed to not do anything if he died or disappeared

[@SteRDLK]

Or they didn't see him in the newspaper if they lived in Ireland

[@Liitebulb]

What has educated and nice looking got to do with it?

[@amandajane8227]

Or they all died in the war.

[@Luke-nw5zt]

@@Liitebulb are you thick?

[@amayakhler1551]

@@Liitebulb he was most likely a spy

[@maryolahickey7836]

I would love to see thoughty2 cover the man for taured. A man who went through an airport with a passport form a country that doesn't exist. Would love to see him present it he gives so much detail!

[@thescribe4742]

That's been debunked.

[@maryolahickey7836]

@@thescribe4742 even as a hoax it would still be interesting to see a video about

[@mutt9779]

@@maryolahickey7836 a fake passport is worth making a video on?

[@flywheelshyster]

@@maryolahickey7836 i think he may have covered it many years ago, when he did more list/countdown videos. top 5s has a decent cover of the story thats fun. its a great story, and I kinda like how the short story its based may have been forgotten but it still lives on in forklore now. or the internet equivalent to forklore perhaps

[@brandonmccann15]

@@thescribe4742 wait really so it was all fake?

[@sonnymoone2989]

I recently saw another very similar KZbin video about a woman that also had the labels removed from her clothing and she was found dead with no idea who she was. Some thought she might be a spy but others did not. She had a lot of wigs and different sunglasses and non prescription eyeglasses in a suitcase, too, among other things. All of her makeup had the labels removed, also. She had died from being caught on fire but she had a bunch of pills in her stomach as if she had been forced to take them before she was caught on fire. Very strange how similar that story is like this one. They dubbed her the Isdal Woman. Really interesting. It's enough to make you think the two cases are somewhat related to some degree.

[@hebneh]

Stories about the Somerton Man usually emphasize how exhaustive the search for his identity was - but in 1948, with no internet or computer records of any kind, it was impossible to do any sort of significant international search.

[@TheJstroud24]

Really? I thought the internet was invented in 1820 🙄

[@Tigerfire75]

It was not impossible. People just think that because they are too young or unworldly to know how it is done.

[@hebneh]

@@Tigerfire75 At the age of 67, I am neither young or unworldly.

[@CY3ER]

Yeah imagine now you could just go through facebook and probably find whoever you want

[@robb2055]

@@CY3ER unfortunately not always look at the Delphi murders. They have video and his voice and still no one is saying who he is if they know.

[@angeldarlin]

The Somerton Man is my first love in mystery cases. No matter how many videos I've already watch, I still watch any videos of his case that I came across with. I'm so excited to hear any updates on his case, whether it provides an answer or not. I'm just happy it's active again.

[@EpicWarrior131]

Good luck

[@ameliesayshola8854]

They figured out his identity recently after exhuming his body and getting samples for DNA, as I’m sure you saw!

[@r.verbatima9562]

There is another very strange detail about this case. The book from which the scrap "Tamam Shud" was torn out had a format that did not match the actual edition indicated on the inside cover. In fact, it did not match the format of any other Rubayat edition published between 1930 and 1945. It resembles most closely the 1941 Whitcombe and Tombs edition of the book, but there are still slight differences in the font and the size of the paper. Somerton Man's copy of Rubayat appears to be bespoke. No other copy identical to it has ever been found.

[@frederickbowdler8169]

The British have used this ploy before in operation mincemeat.

[@whospilledmybeans]

20 years and an engagment for a case? Thats dedication give him an award

[@jerickodoggo9595]

Yeah, let's be real. His true motive was to solve the 20 yr personal saga. To get close to the daughter who was the key. He married her as a side quest though. Lmao. How awkward is it. When the daughter who goes onto 60 minutes saying she will take the answer to the grave. Yet her husband who eventually lead events to the DNA testing. Is going to be the one spilling the beans...

[@user-hh2is9kg9j]

@@jerickodoggo9595 Is she the same woman? I think the one on the 60 minutes is Robin's sister and the one that the investigator married is Robin's daughter.

[@bensoncheung2801]

222 likes

[@dilbertfirestorm4851]

@@jerickodoggo9595 Robin's sister said her mother took that info to her grave. I don't think she knows who he was.

[@TheTroyc1982]

@@jerickodoggo9595 I think you are confused, the nurse lady had a son and a daughter. the son also had a daughter, who the investigator married., not the same daughter as the one in the interview

[@shanepye7078]

A permanently retired spy. Back then, number stations were used often, and one time keys were printed on chewing gum. You use the one time code, then chew the evidence. The code won’t be broken, and the piece of gum with the final key had the poison that killed him.

[@npc6817]

Then there would've been more one time codes on the remaining gum

[@shanepye7078]

@@npc6817 no, it was only on one piece. The gum was issued once, only one created per code that was to be used. Having a bunch of codes on a bunch of gum sticks would defeat the point. More often, they had a one time code written on paper they entered the field with, or was acquired in a dead drop. Espionage during ww2 and the Cold War was insane, especially with number stations.

[@sabrina2368]

@@shanepye7078 good theorie but the guy had half left so there was at least 3 or 4 strips of gum left

[@FlameForgedSoul]

@@sabrina2368 Read the reply to NPC again, slowly.

[@rattusnorvegicus4380]

_@@sabrina2368_ _4 days ago_ _@Shane Pye good theorie but the guy had half left so there was at least 3 or 4 strips of gum left_ Groan...

[@angelsinger4574]

Thanks to DNA testing, we now know this man was likely named Carl Webb, who went by Charles or Charlie. We know his name, but not how he died or why he died on that particular beach. We do know that he reportedly had an alcohol problem and had divorced a year before his death, and that he was very fond of poetry (which could explain the note found on his body). As for the code in the book? We may never know.

[@xvgm24]

Death by poisoning himself. The code most likely pertained to horse racing.

[@brysonxd]

likely suicide by poison

[@caittails]

This is one of my favorite stories. It's SO crazy! It's also the reason I got a Jeopardy question correct the other day and my family thinks I'm a master of Persian poetry. 🤣

[@dnr2089]

🤣🤣🤣

[@shable1436]

Yeah, "the end" takes a masters degree in crytolinguistics to know

[@selinnazsur2328]

Love how when he says "people who regularly wore shoes with high heels" the stock video shows a woman twisting her ankle lmao

[@mrbyamile6973]

And now I'm wondering what KZbin/Google algorithm I awoke by watching this video as I got an advertisement for an HIV drug at the beginning of vid. I have never searched or watched anything that would possibly suggest I'm remotely interested or in need of such a drug. Just typing these words I'm now likely going to be targeted for such things :(

[@enricovangelderen6464]

@@mrbyamile6973 google knows something you don’t

[@j.dragon651]

@@mrbyamile6973 They also know exactly what porn you like.

[@konahayo]

I haven't watched the video yet, but this story really pulls on a heartstring for me. I heard of it before. Something about dying alone on the beach, no one knows your name, and the last people to see you beckoning for help thought you were a lousy drunk.

[@kevindurant7803]

Imagine how much effort and research he puts into his video. And how on earth does he come up with these topics? Love your videos

[@MCBeton420]

Lol this was quite a popular topic a while, while back. But yes, the quality is good.

[@LukeBunyip]

Given that the recent exhumation and DNA analysis attempt was widely reported Down Under, I've got no idea...

[@calledbythegrave9491]

I always figured he hits random on wikipedia till he finds a topic he likes or finds interesting lol

[@syyndev2161]

pretty sure there are researchers and writers on this channel not just him, and him being the host like Simon?

[@thefinalhammer5442]

@@syyndev2161 he wrote that book, so I mean it's possible. But he did a rof where I think he mentioned doing this all alone. I could be wrong though

[@susanfudge1737]

Cannot understand someone refusing to tell the identity of a dead person.

[@teentraveler1790]

Yeah, their emotions get in the way. It's annoying.

[@flamez3833]

maybe he was a spy

[@wayde5545]

Maybe she killed him. They were probably in a relationship

[@alexwright6212]

Looks to me that she killed him

[@zazugee]

obviously, she had a secret relationship and something bad happened either she killed him or he committed suicide

[@bettiraige3474]

I could listen to this lovely gentleman read the phonebook and be completely enchanted. My goodness, I'm smitten. How am I only just finding this channel?!

[@bettiraige3474]

"Vampire, Elf, Cabaret dancer" #Dead

[@spacechimp5141]

many cases will never be solved. also the lack of tech back then too.

[@NoelMcGinnis]

Well, we only just discovered last week that D.B. Cooper was actually Loki, so who knows? Maybe the Somerton man will turn out to be someone equally interesting.

[@drewt1717]

🤣

[@satyamsidharth5183]

I- 😂😂

[@BrightSeaStar]

Okay, so.......still no conclusion to the Cooper caper ??

[@NoelMcGinnis]

@@BrightSeaStar Nope. The FBI finally admitted defeat and retired the case several years ago.

[@bigbrisk8423]

@@BrightSeaStar he was too good hahahaha theyll never know

[@brandyyolidio4213]

This story always grabs my attention, bizarre details for him to be discovered in such a serene melancholy way. No bruises or anguished expressions, almost peaceful looking. Would love to know exactly what happened to him.

[@Angler4]

This man has topics more interesting than most topics you will ever learn in school

[@kai_plays_khomus]

Probably - but also less helpful in life.

[@vaisakh_km]

If he was our history teacher in my Junior class i really would have studied it well......

[@shanehenderson630]

Word!

[@velder22]

Yeah I agree but usually there's a conclusion at the end of it this just leaves me shaking my head

[@ImKariPain]

@@kai_plays_khomus like a lot of things in school

[@jacobwhelan45]

I don’t know if he writes the scripts, but the way he tells these stories, theories, history lessons, facts, and so much more is both entertaining and intriguing. The structure he uses to tell these stories is top notch story telling to keep you engaged, laughing, thinking, and interested. The final lines of his videos always make me smile because of the great story telling work. What a legend

[@6vitamin]

Clearly a spy. All these “mysteries” are like “they had all these signs of spycraft, did all the things spies did, but WHO KNOWS who they were?”

[@shilohkeller]

There was a lady just like this found in the usa. Almost exactly the same way, even the tags cut out of her clothing. I think she was a spy too.

[@SchizoGuitarist]

Imagine the cops spent like 3 years trying to solve the mystery and then they found a piece of paper that just said "We do a little bit of trolling"

[@freezalo7521]

Can someone make an old school version of that

[@hectoralfaroWS]

@@freezalo7521 "we do like to lollygag sometimes gentlemen"

[@mizbanks4764]

@@hectoralfaroWS lmfaoooo " Everyone likes a good ol lollygag every now and again eh ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Remedynr]

as a kid I remember that some of the other kids mothers would remove the labels from clothing. That's in mid 90's. I assume it's because some get irritated by them, to others it's just uncomfortable, while most don't feel them at all.

[@MisterRorschach90]

I do it so when I’m caught people can’t link me back to the town I live in.

[@ALA9E]

All mine get removed asap for this reason😊

[@KikoVision-fl3lu]

This channel is the only way I can get through my day at work. Thank you.

[@shadinaif]

24 hours later they were engaged!!!!!!!!

[@lanarhoades7053]

𝙃𝙤𝙡𝙖 🙋‍♀️ 𝙈𝙞 𝙎𝙪𝙚𝙣̃𝙤 𝙀𝙨 𝙎𝙚𝙧 𝙐𝙣𝙖 𝙂𝙧𝙖𝙣 𝙔𝙤𝙪.𝙏𝙪𝙗𝙚𝙧 🙁 𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙤 𝙎𝙪𝙛𝙧𝙤 𝘿𝙚 𝙃𝙪𝙢𝙞.𝙡𝙡𝙖𝙘𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙚𝙨 𝘿𝙚 𝙂𝙚𝙣𝙩𝙚 𝙌𝙪𝙚 𝘿𝙞𝙘𝙚 𝙌𝙪𝙚 𝙉𝙤 𝙇𝙤 𝙑𝙤𝙮 𝘼 𝙇𝙤𝙜𝙧𝙖𝙧 😔💔 𝙎𝙚 𝙥𝙖𝙧𝙩𝙚 𝘿𝙚 𝙀𝙨𝙩𝙖 𝙋𝙖𝙦𝙪𝙚𝙣̃𝙖 𝙁𝙖𝙢𝙞𝙡𝙞𝙖 𝘾𝙤𝙣 𝙎𝙚.𝙜𝙪𝙞𝙧𝙢𝙚 𝙀𝙨𝙥𝙚𝙧𝙤 𝙏𝙪 𝘼𝙥𝙤𝙮𝙤 𝘾𝙧𝙖𝙘𝙠 .. 🙏❤️💙

[@lanarhoades7053]

𝙃𝙤𝙡𝙖 🙋‍♀️ 𝙈𝙞 𝙎𝙪𝙚𝙣̃𝙤 𝙀𝙨 𝙎𝙚𝙧 𝙐𝙣𝙖 𝙂𝙧𝙖𝙣 𝙔𝙤𝙪.𝙏𝙪𝙗𝙚𝙧 🙁 𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙤 𝙎𝙪𝙛𝙧𝙤 𝘿𝙚 𝙃𝙪𝙢𝙞.𝙡𝙡𝙖𝙘𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙚𝙨 𝘿𝙚 𝙂𝙚𝙣𝙩𝙚 𝙌𝙪𝙚 𝘿𝙞𝙘𝙚 𝙌𝙪𝙚 𝙉𝙤 𝙇𝙤 𝙑𝙤𝙮 𝘼 𝙇𝙤𝙜𝙧𝙖𝙧 😔💔 𝙎𝙚 𝙥𝙖𝙧𝙩𝙚 𝘿𝙚 𝙀𝙨𝙩𝙖 𝙋𝙖𝙦𝙪𝙚𝙣̃𝙖 𝙁𝙖𝙢𝙞𝙡𝙞𝙖 𝘾𝙤𝙣 𝙎𝙚.𝙜𝙪𝙞𝙧𝙢𝙚 𝙀𝙨𝙥𝙚𝙧𝙤 𝙏𝙪 𝘼𝙥𝙤𝙮𝙤 𝘾𝙧𝙖𝙘𝙠 .. 🙏❤️💙

[@lanarhoades7053]

𝙃𝙤𝙡𝙖 🙋‍♀️ 𝙈𝙞 𝙎𝙪𝙚𝙣̃𝙤 𝙀𝙨 𝙎𝙚𝙧 𝙐𝙣𝙖 𝙂𝙧𝙖𝙣 𝙔𝙤𝙪.𝙏𝙪𝙗𝙚𝙧 🙁 𝙋𝙚𝙧𝙤 𝙎𝙪𝙛𝙧𝙤 𝘿𝙚 𝙃𝙪𝙢𝙞.𝙡𝙡𝙖𝙘𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙚𝙨 𝘿𝙚 𝙂𝙚𝙣𝙩𝙚 𝙌𝙪𝙚 𝘿𝙞𝙘𝙚 𝙌𝙪𝙚 𝙉𝙤 𝙇𝙤 𝙑𝙤𝙮 𝘼 𝙇𝙤𝙜𝙧𝙖𝙧 😔💔 𝙎𝙚 𝙥𝙖𝙧𝙩𝙚 𝘿𝙚 𝙀𝙨𝙩𝙖 𝙋𝙖𝙦𝙪𝙚𝙣̃𝙖 𝙁𝙖𝙢𝙞𝙡𝙞𝙖 𝘾𝙤𝙣 𝙎𝙚.𝙜𝙪𝙞𝙧𝙢𝙚 𝙀𝙨𝙥𝙚𝙧𝙤 𝙏𝙪 𝘼𝙥𝙤𝙮𝙤 𝘾𝙧𝙖𝙘𝙠 .. 🙏❤️💙

[@DrGold-ks1mp]

What a beautiful love story!

[@Rainer_ow]

@@lanarhoades7053 you don’t even speak English so you can’t be and you’re getting reported for spam

[@orchidrose1410]

This story has “the Isdal Woman” vibes! Creepy!

[@tomspreadbury2915]

other way round, this occurred first and is a far more well-known case

[@daviddavidson2357]

If you want another unsolved mystery look into the Yuba County 5.

[@MrGreedo180]

@@daviddavidson2357 the young woman who died under weird and mysterious circumstances at the Oslo Hotel.

[@Wiwaz]

there was another case from norway. The woman who was found dead in a hotel room, no one knew her?

[@daviddavidson2357]

@@Wiwaz There was one in Ireland too. Man with severe cancer spent a few days carefully disposing of his clothes and personal effects in CCTV blindspots then asked a taxi driver to bring him to a quiet beach. Cause of death was drowning but nobody knows who he is.

[@lachiegames4610]

The mystery’s partially being solved as we speak

[@raedwulf61]

He was a time traveler and is clearly his own great grandfather.

[@pommiebears]

Ohhh, I like that! 👍🏽

[@CrusaderSports250]

@@pommiebears there were two programmes, mid seventies called "a flip for Dominic Hyde and another flip for Dominic" dealing with this as a fictional story, I think it was a BBC production (back in the day when they made quality entertainment), I watched both episodes at the time and have always had a liking for science fiction, some of which has become science fact, still waiting for flying car and my moon home though🙂.

[@KetchupPankaka]

Can't be

[@mogs43]

Bill Wyman from the Rolling Stones was his own grandfather. He married Mandy Smith and his son married her mother, That made his son Bills father but as his sons father it also made him his own grandfather.

[@PiousMoltar]

Ah. So he was Phillip J. Fry... Well, it DID say he was ginger!

[@Paraplegicoctopus-jh3mn]

4:42 ''The upper hollows of his ears called the 'cymba' were larger than the lower hollows.... called the 'mufasa' " is how I thought that sentence was gonna end for some reason, but proceed...

[@DramaQueenBiz]

A few days after I watched this video, I watched a video that says that Australian professor has made a positive ID using ancestry data, neat.

[@rebeccasunflower]

As a South Aussie, I clicked straight away when I saw a ThoughtyTwo video about Somerton man! I've been following this case for years. Weirdly, one of the best parts of my birthday this year was the exhumation of Somerton man.

[@addictedtoJB]

"His pockets were empty, except for..." back in those days you couldn't fit much more than the man already had

[@sktbug6833]

I thought the same 😆

[@ihateeverything462]

I've never watched a full video of you without falling asleep I love your voice

[@joshschneider9766]

The nurse covered her involvement. She was a courier. Its a classic method. Proven by her ten moves.

[@StoutProper]

Maybe she just had shit landlords, it is Australia after all

[@rainofrest7778]

ok josh

[@PostTraumaticSwagDisorder]

k jos

[@MuhammadWaheed88]

I’ve been watching videos on this case (and others) for years now, feels good to watch an updated and obviously more interesting take on the case by Thoughty2. Thank you.

[@andrewcorby5825]

He has since been identified as a missing Electrical Engineer from Melbourne. As to why he was there and how he died it’s still a mystery

[@stevensingh5955]

Idk why it hit so hard, but you had me dying with the “VAMPIRE CABARET DANCER” 💃🏻🕺🏼 😂😂😂👌🏽

[@aceundead4750]

Dont forget the elf part, very important

[@frankmorano8711]

freakin hilarious!

[@AVMermaid]

🤣🤣🤣

[@SteRDLK]

Hold me closer vampire cabaret dancer

[@the_only_living_ghost]

SAME

[@richewilson6394]

The investigation didn't do any background check into the nurses history before pursuing anything else that's my question it could be that he was a jealous lover Affair gone wrong hired Hitman to kill him.

[@theeclectic2919]

He obviously impregnated the wrong woman.

[@LemonSnickerCakes]

co worker or tainted lover. the nurse clearly didnt want to talk about it for a reason... because she did it. she showed every sign she was guilty.. oh well we need "evidence" i guess. apparently he nervous breakdown wasnt enough

[@hero4714]

It looks like the woman while being the nurse could have poisoned the man. She had access to chemicals for poisoning a person and back then tracking of substances in hospitals was a lot more relaxed.

[@CC3193]

I read that she was fluent in Russian.

[@carolynwatson3842]

An intriguing mystery! I hope you will report further discoveries. I like the way you present. Your mustache and suspenders are the perfect look!

[@zetazimmer4769]

This story had so many bizarre twists and I’m genuinely spooked.

[@ivanstayner8818]

BRING IT. LETS GO. (idky im so excited. But I think it has to do with another Thoughty2 upload)

[@MistMulakeX]

My Psych professor once told us about how his mom went to Harvard. She had a professor who went to South America on a trip, and came back with a fatal disease. He was the kind of guy who didn’t want to be a burden, he didn’t want others to worry about him. The disease was too much for him. So he dressed in his finest suit, and walked into the ocean. This video just reminds me of that.

[@RedactedATS]

I remove all the labels from my clothes , otherwise they scratch my skin. So not that bizarre a thing to find on a dead body...🤔❤✌🇬🇧

[@martincummins3731]

Yup! Me as well. With the exception of external clothing. Like jackets, coats and all of my fedora hats. All of which have a label on the upper inside and never come in contact with me extensive bald spot. So all in all I think he was some kind of Spook!

[@confusedbadger6275]

Back then, people would have their names sewn into clothing. Helped with service washes etc

[@JohnFisk-OHS-78]

​@@confusedbadger6275 Totally agreed. My father worked as a teller in the bank for many years. He had a closet full of white shirts, all of which were labeled with his name. The dry cleaner would check the label and be able to return the correct white shirt to the correct customer. Very different world in the 1940's and 50's.

[@benderr424]

I haven’t known anyone to rip off labels from jackets, trousers or pullovers T shirts yes, I rip those off if they scratch the back off my neck but never a jacket

[@VivPhotography]

I don't think the labels back then were scratchy like they are now (made of a completely different material). Plus, the label had your name on it, so it doesn't make sense for him to take it off.

[@hoosierpatriot2280]

Sounds like he was a spy that got killed by a counter spy.

[@lyrex9309]

Probably...

[@lauriosaurusplayz6028]

Update: His name Was Carl Webb According to Prof Abbott, Webb was born in 1905 in a suburb of Melbourne. He was the youngest of six siblings and married Dorothy Robertson, known as Doff Webb. That's most likely what brought him to Adelaide, the professor said. "We have evidence that he had separated from his wife, and that she had moved to South Australia. So possibly, he had come to track her down," he told the ABC. Dr Fitzpatrick now wants to help solve the mystery of his death. "I would like to see the toxicology done. And I would like to find out what happened to Dorothy," she told CNN.

[@WarriorRazor]

I love the case of The Somerton Man, it's absolutely fascinating when you read into it.

[@SalisburyKarateClub]

Living in Adelaide this is something that comes up from time to time, would love to have the mystery solved once and for all

[@katebet07]

Sounds like it may have been!!

[@anthonysteer4798]

I live in Adelaide, I have also been obsessed with this case. A theory that I am actually interested in is that he was a Russian spy looking into the weapons testing happening near by but got caught and so he offers himself so he wouldn't get caught. I'm looking forward to see how this turns out

[@oscarjimenezgarrido7591]

He was the Schrodinger Spy, then? Caught and non-caught at the same time until someone found out about him?

[@bjmcmahon722]

This man is...IS Identified. As well as his lover. He fathered a son with her...thats why he appeared Down Under. But...yes most likely a suicided spy/former spy.

[@katebet07]

Really? I hadn't heard, but haven't really checked up on what they'd found. Fascinating!

[@katebet07]

@@Birgit.Australia that's what I thought too

[@lewisdoherty7621]

If they thought he had been poisoned by an exotic poison of the type spies might use and the other strange background or lack of them items involving the deceased, I would think the police would have the intelligence services monitor the nurse. She may not have had an important position in her work, but maybe early in her life she was active in communist organizations and they found her useful in facilitating their espionage activities in the area. She may have been the local spy contact. Lover, spy contact or both. After determining he was the father through DNA, the question comes who was he before the pregnancy? Tracing DNA should go upward and outward.

[@hangfire5005]

I think there's a bus stop near where the body was found, pretty far from remote

[@truthseeker8483]

The whole of Australia is remote........

[@CORNERSUNDERATTACK]

@@truthseeker8483 no it’s not 🤣🤣

[@sumbigdumkunt]

@@CORNERSUNDERATTACK a lot of it is tho. We mostly just inhabit the coastline. Go 200kms in land and civilisation gets pretty scarce. Coming from someone who has driven up and down the entire east coast half a dozen times.

[@truthseeker8483]

@@CORNERSUNDERATTACK yes it is....

[@katebet07]

Maybe now - but probably not then

[@sonofodintv4833]

I was born and raised in Adelaide, South Australia and this is the first time I have ever heard of this!!

[@bllocky]

1950’s we’re crazy man, everyone’s in these suits

[@akramgimmini8165]

*STYLE*

[@itsanu1420]

Barney stinson would have loved it

[@raymondpendergrass6772]

No matter the weather!! Its like they didnt get hot or something

[@PyleHD]

We're n't they, man?

[@kennymartin2700]

That's because men then had style now its all saggy pants and acting a Muppet

[@nefuros551]

What a cliffhanger man... just started to get juicy and then BOOM. Ends with 0 closure

[@FizCap]

You'll find out the answer in 5 years lol

[@heyheysbk]

Exciting!! Your video had more info than I've seen. I didn't know about the exhumation. I was able to read about who he is! Thanks for sharing!

[@mineown1861]

Strontium analysis of his tooth enamel may be able to reveal where he grew up .

[@YouTubecanfuckagoat]

Smart.

[@ainekosmanfred]

Too soon after the invention of the bomb

[@mrwilson.1]

Big brain

[@simonholyoak8869]

@@ainekosmanfred that wouldn't make any difference?

[@amandajane8227]

There are also people who specialize in identifying were knit wear comes from as all nationalities have a different way and design.

[@theenchantedgyspy3657]

She had to keep the secret and take it to the grave. She had his son and any revelation that he was this mans offspring put both of their lives in danger. That’s the true love of a mother.

[@kai_plays_khomus]

Why? Was he the heir of a throne or a big ass fortune?

[@slipperfilms6571]

@@kai_plays_khomus both of you guys seem a little far fetched, none of you were even alive at that time

[@kai_plays_khomus]

@@slipperfilms6571 That's why I asked a question instead of speculating. If he was a spy I see no reason why the child's life should have been in danger. I don't think a toddler would be a threat to anybody.

[@slipperfilms6571]

@@kai_plays_khomus oh, well yeah

[@theenchantedgyspy3657]

@@kai_plays_khomus because they come after your family to hurt you.

[@crimecabin4089]

Thoughty been ballin for years now like. Much love brother!

[@mizomint4197]

I actually like this. You'll have to upload a part 2 to this video when results are finally made public.

[@ApolloTheDerg]

I could have sworn he had this story up previously but this big update warranted a new video

[@amadiohfixed1300]

Him: I know what your thinking: vampire-elf-cabaret-dancer Me: How did you know?

[@ADogNamedStay]

Cabaret

[@dwenkle]

I have lived with 2 kilometres of Somerton Park beach for most of 42 years and only found out that this happened recently. One of the many weird stories from Adelaide.

[@ret03man]

This is the farthest that I have heard of this investigation being carried to. I have seen and read numerous videos and articles about the Somerton man but not to the finding of a possible relative or that a DNA sample has been taken and is being tested now. Congratulations Thoughty2, you have really updated this case for people like me who have followed it for years! Great job!

[@pjforthewin]

The video's up for 6 minutes and it's already near 2k views. Exactly what this channel deserves!

[@comixproviderftw_02]

This story needs to be a movie

[@mosespray4510]

I just learned about this channel today, and I'm very impressed with how good these videos are. I've subscribed, and it looks like there are enough installments to be worthy of a good binge!

[@glennchartrand5411]

Sailors spend their lives climbing up and down ladders and steep stairways and they tend to binge drink and catch infections. So that explains the calf muscles and enlarged spleen. It also turns out that the Nurse has a history of gifting people the poetry book they found. He probably came looking for the nurse to see his son. Bought a ticket to her home , found out she moved, scribbled her phone number in his book and went there instead. The reunion didnt go well. He tore the line "This is how it ends" from the poetry book and tossed the book into an open car window. The autopsy revealed that blood had pooled in the back of his skull , so he wasnt in a sitting position when he died. The "encrypted message " looks more like the first letter of every word in a poem that he was trying to memorize to impress her. I think a rival boyfriend saw him leave her house and followed him to the beach and smothered him. A couple of hours later he went back , posed the body in a sitting position and took his wallet.

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

*no signs of violence on the body*

[@pattynielsen5506]

I did a lot of background on this and learned that at this time AUS offered 5 pound passage to any service member (American or Brit) who was stationed there during the war. This man's luggage was at the bus station and a ship had just docked. He took the bus to the sea shore and relaxed on the beach where he passed away. Someone rolled him, that is, stole his wallet and passport. Since no one in AUS recognized him as employee, tenant, neighbor, husband or friend, it is pretty certain he was not an Australian. Just ignore the scrap of paper from the pocket as it's possible his clothes were from a thrift shop, who removed the labels before resale.

[@lilacsunshine3044]

Stilll why did he die?

[@andrewince8824]

Given recent actions by Australian police, it wouldn't be surprising if he was bumped off by the Australian government in order to preserve nuclear secrets.

[@5161estel]

What recent actions are you referring to and how are they relevant to things that happened decades ago? Just wondering.

[@sebaseba6710]

what are you talking about man?

[@THEmickTHEgun]

Yes what are you on about?

[@Musikur]

@@5161estel I would assume he means the raid on the ABC offices since that's the only controversial thing I'm aware of the Australian Police being involved in remotely recently. But given that the AFP didn't exist back then, its a bit of nonsense

[@nahbirdie4773]

I honestly love seeing cold cases. I really hope this one gets solved. Still waiting on that skin book code to be cracked

[@robynsegg]

I love hearing you say the name "Robin". The accent is just so beautiful!

[@philxray666]

The one part of this mystery I question is how and why this nurse would have her own home phone in 1948. Even in the 1970's it was so rare for anyone in sleepy Adelaide to have a home phone unless it was absolutely essential for work. I'd bet not one home in fifty to a hundred would have a home telephone in Adelaide in 1948! Why her?!!

[@katebet07]

Good point!!

[@itwasaliens]

That makes sense for a nurse who might need to be available at all times

[@philxray666]

@@itwasaliens Not in 1948 it doesn't make sense. The "on call" system did not exist until decades later for nursing staff. You had a job, you had your hours and you worked at least 40 hours a week. You're welcome to prove me wrong.

[@carly09et]

Medical Professional - emergency contact. ...

[@katebet07]

@@carly09et I wouldn't have thought back then - for doctors, but not nurses. It's odd - that's for sure.

[@kimberlyflanigan]

I never knew about his physical features that you mentioned despite having heard of this story several times over the years..

[@Blaiyan]

A smoove talker? Asking your date can you see her teeth, hair and have her DNA? 😍🤣 that was funny. She should've bolted and maybe called the authorities.

[@amayakhler1551]

he was the authority

[@deanofarrell1881]

Not gonna lie I do want to find out more about the guys building the castle

[@DeadEyeDonnyFTW]

Fight to the death, winner keeps their name...

[@coliedeekenzo]

Me too! I was thinking about it! Random ishh that I need to now see

[@joshschneider9766]

Guedelon castle. Amazing place. More. Of a small chateau of a minor lord than a kings palace but still amazing.

[@OffRampTourist]

There's a documentary on Netflix or Prime. Secrets of the Castle, I think. Highly recommended.

[@christinekaye6393]

I watched the series here on You Tube. I enjoyed it very much and also learned a lot. Search it.

[@liammurphy2725]

"Vampire elf cabaret dancer" I pissed myself.

[@chipthiefUwU]

Always love when one of my states biggest cases is covered.

[@brendensica]

This went from being a murder mystery to the craziest love story I’ve ever heard lmao

[@gunslingersymphony5015]

Are they mutually exclusive? lol

[@dl_0002]

"High calf muscles" are genetic. You can develop your calve muscles, particularly the gastrocnemius, but cannot change your muscle insertions.

[@sharryrachel]

This channel is brilliant, so many interesting video's!

[@MNMNT_OG]

The image at 4:10 kinda freaks me out, he doesn't even look dead.

[@Neoentrophy]

I appreciate that you wear a different coloured shirt for your in-video adverts, makes it way easier to skip :)

[@Skelyboss]

Lmao

[@imyourjosh1726]

Wow this guy was committed haha