WHAT RECENT LAYOFFS MEAN FOR THE DFS SPACE

[@shotlikeharden233]

I was hoping yall did a show on this. Never disappointed. 🤝

[@PeterOverzet]

gotta cover the beat

[@strammy1058]

Neil & Adam were two of the best content providers at Stokastic. That's really unfortunate

[@PeterOverzet]

agreed

[@Eric-ru8sp]

The industry has for sure changed. I do miss the early days when subbing for content was cheap and you could sub everywhere. Now I have been priced out of pretty much everything for the volume I play.

[@PeterOverzet]

ya, i think prices will come down w so much competition

[@_arkel7374]

Don't usually watch LOLZ, but when I do it's for content like this.

[@PeterOverzet]

thank you for making time for us

[@RBRTriplets]

I play SE for the most part. About 5 years ago I took down a $20K NFL gpp on DK. But now, it's very hard for a SE guy to even min cash in large field gpp's with sims tools and 150 lu guys. I find myself playing less and less these days.

[@davidkavetsky2377]

It's frustrating you see the same 150 lineup guys in all these large fields. I always play SE but sometimes want to play more. If you play FanDuel it's Moklovin.. can't stand dude he even floods the$3 contests . C'mon man you already win the milly

[@sakichler]

If I see the list of entrants and see Moklovin or Youdacao I cry and withdraw instantly

[@PeterOverzet]

hand builders unite

[@davidkavetsky2377]

Ahh man Ship my money got laid off?? He was the most sarcastic and funny one

[@PeterOverzet]

indeed

[@andrewb8017]

Neal is good, I always made sure to watch his football stuff. The stokastic stuff became a little pricey. I found another site almost half the price.

[@shanesmith7461]

He only read the data straight from the projections. He was completely worthless to their content. Yeah, maybe he picked 1 or 2 guys at the bottom of the board each slate but that was random winner, at best. Half the time he didn't know who played for what team.

[@BennyTingman]

​@@shanesmith7461 neil is a milly winner, show some respect pal.

[@Rerpesentz]

Skotastic-Awesomeo Had a few dfs guys that are great at the sport can talk it and be right and were let go prime examples 2-3 years ago FastEddieFear was giving too much good NBA information and pooooow out the door, Terry Mcbride best MLB tout in the game POOOOW out the door, Adam Ship my money NBA takes POOOOOOOOOW Out the door, Neil and the gang NFL POOOW out the door. Can't make money giving the nuts away daily

[@monroehale4839]

Blender has the audio course "Theory of DFS"

[@PeterOverzet]

of course, but we're talking 📚

[@almostmade801]

Excellent insight fellas

[@PeterOverzet]

🙌

[@toyflashback3910]

Excited to read Brian’s book, Super System DFS

[@PeterOverzet]

need a signed copy

[@teamunderground8666]

I hate to hear about the layoffs I’m sure those guys will be fine - love your content btw!

[@StuartMeyler]

I think they may have miscalculated the model for their business with the shift to a mandatory (and pricey) simulation package. I subscribed for years for the content and entertainment value, frankly, but with the new packages, it was a take-it-or-leave-it proposition. And if you are going to invest in simulations, there are others out there that have been doing it for longer (and cheaper).

[@PeterOverzet]

ya it's tough to pay for it all

[@newnancardboard6968]

Agree with Brian. I subbed to all the most popular and now it’s just ETR. Probably more people like myself I would assume. I would also assume ETR has had an impact on other dfs sites

[@PeterOverzet]

yup

[@frankiepuleo]

I can’t watch this show in good faith anymore now that I know it has 2 hosts that are butt buddies with ETR! 😂

[@PeterOverzet]

😭

[@Wildkoala1]

Love how diplomatic Pete is with all the comment replies, cmon Pete, let it rip, I wanna see Peter come out 🤬

[@PeterOverzet]

thanks for watching!

[@sharkkillag2456]

Let’s be honest Adam has the personality of a tree stump and kind of rude….. Neil was so cool

[@rodneyspears3214]

You guys should have Neal on next week if he is willing

[@PeterOverzet]

he's always welcome

[@chasecullom2543]

Great show love the way y’all break it down!

[@PeterOverzet]

🤝

[@pinstripepimp517]

The issue is probably that there are players like myself who watch those shows to get enough bread crumbs of info and then get tools like FC and figure this out. No need for a membership just to have more info to sift through. I just started MME and I’m already profitable in a sport couldn’t figure out to save my life. I listen more to hear who the industry is picking so I can get different. Not projections or picks.

[@PeterOverzet]

gpp bro

[@YeanHeard]

Rotogrinders is the goat KZbin dfs provider don’t sleep on them

[@PeterOverzet]

i could never sleep on the site that pays me to do the premier first look show in the industry

[@tylermarlow818]

Dk rather keep force feeding reign-maker down your gullet then think of something worth while. Underdog being draft style and newer seems to be the more fun and enticing

[@PeterOverzet]

go off king

[@tylermarlow818]

@@PeterOverzet short king * thank you

[@familyman1071]

Does inflation effect are community ? meaning the dfs community, Im surprisingly interested in a correct answer to that question.

[@PeterOverzet]

unfortunately all i have our incorrect ones for you

[@familyman1071]

Lol

[@SKYWALKERDFS]

Dfs in general is dead. Everyone is doing prop betting now. I had to make the transition myself

[@PeterOverzet]

time to change the handle

[@focused40]

I have been playing DFS for a long time and the price of subscriptions has made it impossible to justify subbing to so many tools and just min cash nightly.

[@PeterOverzet]

feel you

[@theconsigliere2301]

RBX proves we NEED DFS to stay sane! lol #DFSisAdderal

[@PeterOverzet]

the evidence says otherwise lol

[@adampantano]

I'm Onyx and they def nuked the reward programs. Always got 20K crowns each Wed lol, once or twice got 30K and 40K but it was also something to look forward to each week. I hate the activation which is limited to 275K. Never really trusted the chests anyways. I saw someone get 5M twice. How is that possible when most get min week in and out. The Onyx rewards are due Jan 16 per my VIP. That program changed as well. I think Apple Package is back but its 2 credits instead of 1. Curious to see what the final rewards are. But yeah, not happy with rewards program. But hospitality is great. I get invited to a lot of local events which are always fun.

[@PeterOverzet]

🤝

[@jordanbolger23]

The crowns roughly equaled $2k, with upside of more granted. But now there is a mission achievements as you go up in tier level which is more than that $2k and a full $1k when you hit onyx. Think that is supposed to be a pretty big part of the rewards program.

[@justinkelly9929]

Did I miss the poker scandal talk?

[@PeterOverzet]

nah, we didnt get to it. ive updated title, sorry for rugging u

[@kevincloonan9787]

I use to use multiple dfs sites and one being stokastic. I was gonna re join recently to check out their Sims product and holy shit it's expensive ! I can only afford to stay with the one site I'm currently with

[@adampantano]

F Stokastic. Neil and Adam were the two best analysts in their respective fields on the shows. The dudes left behind are all cheeks. I canceled my subscription for their DFS services. Moving onto another site. When Tom doesn't even acknowledge the layoffs, I find it hard to trust their leadership team - on top of the fact that they their shows/products are significantly worse now. No thanks, by Stokastic!

[@PeterOverzet]

😢

[@elireasons7750]

Pete, your exclusivity point was so salient you made Brian unable to speak for the first time in this show's history

[@PeterOverzet]

lolz

[@MattD86]

When was that?

[@maxswanson]

@@MattD8626:15

[@teddo997]

Just my opinion I think Neil and Adam aren't as involved behind the scenes with the technical aspect of the site and were easier to let go because like you said you can get someone to just talk about a slate for 50 bucks

[@shanesmith7461]

They were making more than 50 a show. That was probably their offer going forward.

[@PeterOverzet]

shane out here putting in work in the comments comments!

[@teddo997]

@@shanesmith7461 thats exactly what I said

[@shanesmith7461]

Lol @ the notion JBC is clearing 300k-500k at RPS. Those guys have hyperbole on lock

[@PeterOverzet]

i think the rest of us just need to run more pure

[@bobbybeez858]

Imma stokastic sub I pay for alotta their tools and I think that’s what it comes down to. Their tools are so good that not much analysis needed

[@ryansharrett205]

❤❤❤

[@PeterOverzet]

♥️

[@doubler8579]

Adam declined an offer to stay he wasn’t laid off or fired

[@PeterOverzet]

that's exactly what we said on the show

[@EmoCowboy.]

wait, the ecosystem can't be sustained on superchats? challenge accepted

[@PeterOverzet]

lol

[@alcoholica1986]

All the stokastik people are annoying af, dfs has been dying

[@PeterOverzet]

you heard it here it first folks