What RUINED Club Penguin?

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[@rainyrouge5123]

The fact that the creators really wanted Club Penguin to be a place where kids were safe from cynical advertising and it ended up becoming a cynical advertisement for other movies once Disney took over is really sad to me.

[@Jacob-Jack]

Mickey Mouse: (looking at Club Penguin) Money! (shreds Club Penguin to turn it into money) (nothing is left from Club Penguin except the cash it was turned into) Mickey Mouse: Where more money?

[@unfortunatewitnessX]

Thanks a lot, Mickey. You just killed your cash cow.

[@jakey14344]

@@unfortunatewitnessX nowadays, Mickey keeps on bleeding money. Secret Invasion failed, Mando s3 was average, and their movies bombed harder than Bakhmut. Their only hopes are Ashoka and the Marvels. Both are victims of meninist hate.

[@MuhouMatsu]

@@jakey14344 "meninist"... thats a new one. I don't hate it, just caught me off guard.

[@manuelvasconcelos8982]

​@@Jacob-Jacksounds like Mr. Krabs more than it sounds like mickey

[@jdevilsfan2133]

The original club penguin effected my family personally, while I was to old for it when it first came out, my little sister was all over it, she met many friends on the site. One friend she would later meet irl and hit it off. In 2021 they got married and have a kid together now. Club penguin literally made a family

[@murderman8578]

YOU'RE LYING

[@OklahomaBall]

If this is true that’s amazing.

[@jdevilsfan2133]

​@@murderman8578if you want more details, they met as kids on club penguin and were friends for years on the game. They had a lot in common with gaming in general and eventually added eachother on a thing called xFire (it was the discord before discord). They would play other pc games together and then when we got a ps3, they moved to that. Then when she was 18, they planned a vacation together to finally meet and they hit it off very well. They ended up getting into the same college together and started dating in college. If you still don't believe me, thats on you but they are very happy together and thats all I really care about

[@ColdJamiy]

Man,that must have been an unforgettable moment

[@ChuckyFan666]

that is just like me and my boyfriend. we met on a pkmn game I think it was XY where you could voice chat on it, and he was from mass and me from ky. we have been together for 9 years now and have a 10 month baby daughter

[@MrEffectify]

I remember when "celebrity" penguins would come online every now and then and it would be a fight to get into the server and room with them to for exclusive items!!

[@esimonsays14]

​@@p-__Begone with thee, bot!!

[@greenhowie]

That sounds like this sketchy dude called lover fella who has P2W minecraft servers only for kids. When he turns up they swarm around him asking for giveaways. I wish youtube hadn't made me aware of this.

[@luci187]

totally one of my core memories of this game was mascot hunting said exclusive items were "autographs" in the form of player card background and i really adored how it's made to look like your penguin took a photo with them, and it makes sense too with running into said mascots the only way to get then it wasn't until im in my late teens that i joined in on those "tracker" chatrooms online just to have a better shot at finding these mascots, and just trying to get at least one of each mascot, staying up for hours, while tiresome it does give a sense of achievement for child me

[@zozocecp]

Oh gosh the pirate penguin and the one who did the advice column for the newspaper. I only ever got to see the pirate guy 😂

[@I_Eat_Lemons]

I once saw Gary when Clubpenguin was Halloween themed, it was the strangest thing I've ever seen. The lag was insane, and nobody even noticed until I pointed out I got a stamp because I was confused.

[@ashcashgamer5770]

I loved these online multiplayer games as a kid, I played Club Penguin, Fantage, Animal Jam and others. I honestly miss a time where I could make an avatar and hang out with others though, it was fun.

[@onespecies-human344]

Neopets

[@CoffyThecat]

Actually what actually ruined club penguins was no more games added so a lot kids got bored and left and switched to Nintendo,Mobile,Fan games,Sony and Microsoft consoles.oh and steam

[@NatetheNintendofan]

​@@p-__what the heck is this comment

[@mattwo7]

@@NatetheNintendofan An NFTbro who hates Saberspark's videos on The Red Ape Family. The show's producers hate him too, as you'll discover with his video on the second episode. That spammer's comment will make a lot more sense with that context. Okay maybe just a little more sense...

[@NumNumsGlasses]

I still Animal Jam sometimes, I hope Saber makes a video on it someday

[@Frontier_Films]

Disney, the end

[@litepaw7]

Disney ruined every thing…

[@nicky55]

Lol

[@commentarysheep]

@@litepaw7They deserve their current financial demise, with how they ruined beloved IPs like Club Penguin, Marvel, Star Wars, the Golden Age and Renaissance Disney movies and now, the insane directorial mishap of firing most of their writers for ChatGPT. They deserve their current lingering bankruptcy.

[@MrTherandomguy42]

And child predators…

[@Frontier_Films]

@@MrTherandomguy42 yeah, that too

[@KanaHyoshi]

To all of my Club Penguin boyfriends, y'all were cool people. I'm glad to have been a part of the meme before it was even a meme. Despite our relationships all lasting about 2 hours, I genuinely had fun playing with you guys. I hope you all also had fun and are doing well now. Signed, ionatana

[@C_hoffmanni]

Two important things: 1. Club Penguin did see a mobile release on iPhones and iPads, at first with mini games then the actual game itself(the game was quietly delisted) 2. The Club penguin army community was insane and very funny, was a member of it for years and it really made me who I am today even if it was basically a lord of the flies scenario. I highly recommend looking into the history of those groups like Club Penguin Army Central and the Nacho Army.

[@hoopsy]

i remember armies used to use xat to communicate and i used to always be on xat even though i was far too young for it

[@Altmetalpunk]

Probably ahead of its time...

[@NottTheCoward]

Some of the creators of Club Penguin are working on a new project called Party Parrot World. It is a spiritual successor to Club Penguin, but with parrots instead of penguins. It is still in open beta, but I think it shows promise.

[@Cinodonte_]

wasn't there other project called box critters?

[@Azurethewolf168]

@@Cinodonte_yeah

[@mcflurryrap5174]

parrots...

[@shadowsseen6322]

It sucks that Disney is sniping down Club penguin remakes. They aren't even using the ip anymore

[@gracekim25]

Yeah that’s the problem 😅

[@richwolf_42ls14]

Tbf on Disney one of the big remake servers was owned by a nonce who was messaging young people playing the game so better safe then sorry

[@skrunklyOwO]

Party parrot world is in open beta right now. The devs who design club penguin are developing it

[@Azurethewolf168]

@@richwolf_42ls14that was one, and that was shut down pretty quickly

[@Masterge77]

@@skrunklyOwO Never even heard of Party Parrot World until today, it does look like a spiritual successor, but I doubt it will ever reach Club Penguin's level of popularity.

[@mushroomdude123]

I didn't grow up with Club Penguin, but hearing what Disney did to it is soul crushing, yet predictable.

[@MathieuLeblanc1991]

This was part of their closure of Disney Interactive in 2016 so it was bound to happen, they ditched all of their online games and gutted a lot of their mobile games and had other studios handle them instead

[@Altmetalpunk]

Eh, it's kind of how most "free to play" games have gone. It's the EA model.

[@Oscar95451]

​@@MathieuLeblanc1991Talk to Sega over Club Penguin

[@MuhouMatsu]

I am now putting Disney buying EA on my 2024 bingo card

[@franciscoacevedo3036]

​@@MuhouMatsuspeaking about ClPg wonder 🤔 what happened with Bakugan >.>

[@PatrickMoore-yw6lu]

I like to see kid games like this again, but with no existing IPs messing it up. It's weird that The Muppets didn't get a Club Penguin treatment when Disney bought the game rights.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

Kind of sucks that Disney bought the Muppets but yet has barely done anything with them

[@PatrickMoore-yw6lu]

@@kittykittybangbang9367 I would count Muppet Haunted Mansion and The Muppets Mayhem as a start. But we will never get to see anymore Muppet crossovers thanks to Disney. I could see them introduce Skeeter finally into the Muppet canon.

[@gracekim25]

@@kittykittybangbang9367yeah 😅I was not lucky to ever catch them on reruns

[@fixedfunshow]

You can't do it, is gonna be hijacked by horrible people. Requires too much moderation.

[@the13throse]

Sadly with how crucial money is to literally anything nowadays, it's unlikely we'll ever get another virtual world for kids that isn't loaded with ads. The paid membership is probably the least obnoxious method possible to have something like that which can still keep itself running long-term, but even that isn't perfect and can end up pricing users out of a ton of the game's initial draws

[@kukapaganchannel]

I remember playing this game with my uncle and brother, we had so much fun playing Club Penguin, and we had to stop playing it once the memberships got intense. For a while my mom paid for the membership, but us being a somewhat poor family, we had to cut Club Penguin off for good. I would play it still but didn't have much fun as before. I truly miss this game and so does my brother and uncle.

[@lewatoaofair2522]

As someone who just never played Club Penguin in its hey-day (despite being in the target age range), I tend to look back at it with respect. But damn, what a turbulent story and legacy.

[@CJMoody]

I never thought I'd see Saberspark talk about Club Penguin. Now I wanna see him do a video about Neopets!

[@PlebNC]

Really wild to me Neopets got bought by the Church of Scientology.

[@CJMoody]

@@PlebNC Right?

[@TheArceusftw]

That actually happened??@@PlebNC

[@PlebNC]

@@TheArceusftw I'm not super familiar with Neopets but I remember that the Church of Scientology, for whatever insane reason, bought out Neopets. Edit: Just did some further reading. Apparently one of employees who was hired was secretly a Scientologist and used the Church's Org Board to manage Neopet's finances. The employee was removed after they tried to hire someone specifically to introduce Scientology education doctrine to Neopets. Both were stopped before this actually happened thankfully.

[@Heriarka]

​@@TheArceusftwyes-no. They accidentally hired someone from scientology who attempted to replace more key staff with other members of the church. He was outed and fired before damage was actually done. Rumors about it got exaggerated a whole lot over time.

[@dannykazari]

Getting a Club Penguin membership for Christmas one year was like one of the best xmas presents I ever got lol. It was great being able to finally show off. It was a fun time, but yeah, looking back, having memberships and such a huge social gap in a kids game is pretty... eh.

[@jamessartstudio7904]

I still play the DS game once in awhile just to waddle around the island and reminisce I still love how they had Halliday party's and some of the original mini games on the original ds one

[@MitchellStudioz]

CLUB PENGUIN WAS LITTTT, it still exists because of Club Penguin private servers.

[@problemsleuth8492]

Club penguin is actually back as New Club Penguin

[@eko9554]

I still play them since 2019. I didn’t have the chance to play it when it was still around. But I had fun playing them during quarantine.

[@busdriverguy]

​​@@p-__keep that shit on moist critikals videos leave saberspark alone bruh

[@wayland513]

​@@problemsleuth8492That's a private server. It's not official.

[@Cr_nch]

@@problemsleuth8492Or any of the various other private servers as stated by the original comment.

[@armorbearer9702]

A lot of what you said in your video, _Video Games Should be Art, Not Just a Tech Demo_ , apply here. When Disney took over, they did not understand Club Penguin's artwork was a part of the charm. Once they made the jump to 3-D, all the charm was lost.

[@beargreen1]

Imagine if all the games we've played as kids stuck around

[@DragonitaPurple]

unrealistic. the internet hates joy.

[@moongalaxywolf434]

​@@DragonitaPurpleTrue, but what if? 😔✊

[@Azurethewolf168]

Well we would never form memories of it, that’s just how life works. You need sadness to get happiness, you need to lose something to miss it.

[@Sollace]

Like Roblox?

[@Azurethewolf168]

@@Sollace Roblox and Minecraft are still around since they can have infinite possibilities

[@DonPatch]

I never played Club Penguin growing up (was more a Gaia Online guy), but hearing how it survived trying to be its own thing, free from ads outside of a subscription, but overall kept the charm of early 2000s internet, just seeing how Disney pretty much turned it into another Disney advert then shut it down while refusing to allow the original to exist just hurts me to see because I hate seeing how something that people genuinely loved since they were kids got warped into what it became before being cut just hurts to see.

[@bluelfsuma]

Only the coolest stuff was locked behind membership. The most basic customization options, and Puffle food, were definitely not. At least, as far as I remember. I'm pretty sure I still have the puffle keychains, the pirate figure, and the kids' book. Man, I was _obsessed._ The last event I remember attending was when the orange puffles appeared. On the note of children's online games, anyone remember Moshi Monsters? I used to spend hours at the arcade, just playing flash games.

[@astrahcat1212]

"Who's gonna show up!? You can't even customize your igloo!!" 9:18 Great out of context clip.

[@HarmonyBunny]

Short answer: Disney ruined Club Penguin.

[@MikeChhem]

@@p-__Who Asked

[@thepeternetwork]

Disney ruins everything they touch. That's what businesses do.

[@villainkaiju]

basically yeah, they did ruin club penguin.

[@gracekim25]

@@MikeChhemit’s a robot

[@MikeChhem]

@@gracekim25 I know, but they keep spamming in every comment though.

[@sneakyskunk1]

The minute he said Disney, I knew exactly how this story was going to end. The Mouse is a bonafide joy killer. This is the same mega corp that managed to ruin the Power Rangers. Disney is where IPs go to die.

[@justanormalguy563]

Personally I think Disney-era PR isn’t that bad. You have not seen the Neo-Saban seasons if you do. It is absolutely a shame what they did to Club Penguin though.

[@sneakyskunk1]

@@justanormalguy563 Well, PR: S.P.D. wasn't too bad. Cruger was pretty bad a$$.

[@Masterge77]

Disney destroys any IP it touches. Just look at what they did to Star Wars, I still have bad memories of how heated and toxic the SW fandom got when The Last Jedi came out.

[@thatoneguy4452]

The worst part of this is how disney went after the fan projects. It wasn't enough that they destroyed Club Penguin, they had to prevent people from enjoying the original version of the game as well. I didn't even play it and I'm pissed.

[@TheArceusftw]

Dude, are you really that shocked that Disney would pull something like that? That sort of massive stranglehold on their copyright is Disney's bread and butter.

[@thatoneguy4452]

@@TheArceusftw No, but I'm still disappointed all the same.

[@party4lifedude]

It's insane, because they are NEVER going to do anything with the IP ever again, but they are just going to sit on it until it completely dies in the darkness so no one else can have it. They stand to lose absolutely NOTHING by letting people make fan games, and it actually costs them money to hire entire legal departments to scour the internet for any sign of people trying to revive Club Penguin.

[@slimcognito383]

I joined Club Penguin in 2007 during its Christmas party. That game was my childhood. Speaking of puffles my favorite was and always will be the rainbow puffle. Also I know people didn’t Club Penguin Island I however have a soft spot for that version. It helps that it introduced me to my friend of 6 years.

[@Jake76667]

i joined club penguin during the first anniversary party in 2006 and became a paid member in march 2012 & it was an absolute blast. i left club penguin entirely during the summer of 2014. i got really bored with the game & i felt like i was getting to old for it as well. but now, i think back to that time fondly & i kinda wish i can go back during my peek times playing club penguin from the mid 2000s to the early 2010s

[@GeneralNickles]

You should make a similar video about Neopets. Dear god, the story of Neopets is a WILD ride. And it's still going. There's a ton of new development going on right now.

[@lilasiansquat4526]

Please do a video on Pixie Hollow! Instead of Club penguin, I used to play Pixie Hollow because it was such a beautiful web game. I loved being on pixie hollow for the music, the fairies, and the world design. back then it was so popular like club penguin. But Disney decided to shut it down before they shut down club penguin. There was also animal jam. What was so unique about animal jam was the trading system and the rare items. Literally, as a kid, I would get scammed by other kids when I was first learning about the rare items. I remember some of the items being hunted down for were the rare bows, the rare fireplace, the rare foxtail, and the rare head dress. It was such an interesting concept.

[@nolanpinkerton9938]

Club Penguin was my favorite and first online game as a kid and I couldn't have been happier to have experienced it. I remember talking to people about how I loved Resident Evil and through other players finding out about Silent Hill and Haunting Ground, and it made me feel so satisfied knowing that there were other kids that liked Survival Horror games like I did. I'm 25 now and all I can do is hope Disney brings it back and hold onto the joyful memories that game brought me. Waddle on former Club Penguin Players, Waddle On.

[@valdirberbert9361]

I have to say this was a big obsession of my childhood through my 10-13 years, everyday or at least every week I'd come back to play it, and I was so into it that even tho I wasn't a member I had so much money and so many itens from all of the parties that all my friends thought I was one 😂 I collected the cards, got the monthly magazine with codes for exclusive itens and had 2/3 months where my parents got me membership cards from the store as a gift for me, it may be a silly game for some, but it was like a escape room for me, I hope they bring this back. And for those bashing on Disney, if it wasn't for them, me and so many kids would have never met this game bc I'm sure they're the reason this game came to Brazil and a lot of other places, so I'm very thankful for it.

[@Trianull]

Disney's definitely the reason I personally found the game, but their greed over time cost them. The artstyle change mentioned also only started to really kick in around 2013 or so, it still had a lot of charm up until the end of Operation Blackout. Those changes really started to signal the beginning of the end though.

[@Azurethewolf168]

@@Trianullcrazily enough they changed the art style in 2012 only a month after all 3 founders left

[@neoncherry64]

I really loved the video! Club penguin was a huge part of my childhood and I’m so excited that you covered it. The only thing I would have added is that the addition of membership-only features were gradually rolled out over the years. For a long time, non-members could still access all the levels of games and do basically everything other penguins could besides buying items with their coins. They could still wear clothes, but only the free ones given out at parties. The change to Disney full on money-grubbing was a lot more gradual than you made it sound. What turned me off to club penguin was when they started changing up the art style and removing the more simple club penguin rustic charm that I loved.

[@beeshrooms]

this video sorta feels like it fast forwarded to when it started going down hill. there was a long time when most minigames were free to play. the member-only experiences early on were cool, but not so cool that you missed out on a major portion of the game without a membership. itd just be some clothes, early access to a room, or an exclusive limited time room. but then as it went on and got more players, they expanded the limitations to entire games off limits. entire party events off limits. clothing being so fancy or gaudy that youd feel extra indadequate without it.

[@sporkles7427]

You should do a video on what ruined Poptropica. It’s still around, as far as I know, but has definitely become a shell of its former self.

[@TheMagic1412]

Toontown,Runescape,Maplestory,FLYFF & Club Penguin were some of my first MMOs growing up. It was so sad to see Disney treat it the way they did but it was to be expected from said company.

[@errorbirdesther]

I loved toontown and it was part of my earliest youtube memories and it gave me my first jumpscare (besides mario d4 ds)

[@ali3ngazer275]

Maplestory is still around today, they never removed it

[@mattwo7]

I hope there will be videos on Virtual Magic Kingdom and PotC Online even though they weren't as big. Also Toontown Online. As fun as it was, I never really cared much for the three to five different separate progression systems in that game.

[@Heavenlyhounds96]

Now I want to see you talk about Disney's Toontown Online.

[@DiegatusStudios]

I keep Club Penguin as one of the aspects that defined me as an artist and one of the greatest entertainment I had as a kid. Logging in always was a way to escape reality and I won't ever forget the parties and all the effort the team put into it. The decline started when Disney started to take over more and more at the point three followed up parties were Disney themed (Frozen, Finding Dory and Zootopia, if I remember good), and they started repeating parties or new items weren't as common as they used to be. For me, Operation Blackout was the best CP party and nothing could top it.

[@jamesbayne]

I miss that childhood time of playing club penguin, toon town, and wizards 101. I know I wouldn't enjoy playing them much now, but the rose tinted glasses of nostalgia makes me want to just go back in time to play and watch cartoon network in the background.

[@zardthedragon1896]

Club Penguin went from a personalized experience to a 300 million dollar disney ad.

[@kendallmonge649]

LOL thanks for covering the nature of the "haves vs. have nots" that this game created. I grew up surrounded by wealthier kids than I, and Club Penguin got huge when we were in the target demographic age. I remember them making fun of my penguin for constantly never having clothes and not being able to do maybe 80% of what the site offered. After a while, my mom let me have a yearlong subscription (which was no easy feat given our financial situation, but she knew how much it would mean to me), and I felt like the coolest kid ever. It's kinda sad that a little kid could be made to feel so inferior over something like that. I also had no idea about Disney's takeover, since I had grown out of the game before that point. It's absolutely wild that the space became a giant Disney commercial after touting itself as a commercial-free kid-friendly zone.

[@spookychords4925]

I remember being in 5th grade (2006) and playing Club Penguin on our computer lab. One kid introduced it to us and got the entire school hooked. I remember phrases like "let's go sleding!" and "Party at my igloo!" being shouted both in the lab and online. I remember watching Disney Channel and seeing ads for the game and found the new art style jarring, but was still having fun with the new additions. I stopped playing by the time I was getting ready for High School (2010) and saw that the game was slowly dying. I'm now a teacher and it seems like the game that replicates that feeling of being a kid using the internet with friends is Roblox. As annoying as it is to hear them talk about it, I have to remember how annoying we must have sounded about these Penguins 😅 In years time, these kids will grow up and talk about Roblox like how we talk about Club Penguin.

[@e2011ugdia]

Disney immeadietly after buying club penguin: nah i dont want it (prooceeds to shut club Penguin down)

[@Edmundyu1995]

I remember back as a kid I was excited to those parties and graduated later to Habbo hotel, haven’t been on Habbo in awhile, but can see it’s still going strong

[@catgoeskek]

I miss club penguin (and rewritten), there aren't many private servers around nowadays but club penguin legacy is the next best thing, and they have been reworking the code and adding their own custom content to keep it interesting and prevent a lawsuit (prime example being card jitsu which is due to release today)

[@headphonesaxolotl]

There's also New Club Penguin which has survived for almost as long as CP Rewritten did, it just started in 2020.

[@conradbrooks1760]

Bro didn't even mention using the jackhammer to flip the iceb.....OH HE PUT IT IN AT THE LAST SECOND 😮

[@TchSktch]

i was literally one of the children that just sat there playing the free version having no idea how much better the game was if I actually paid

[@bryningtheaction]

umm: around the 9:00 mark, you say "basically have to pay for everything that was good about CP" but thats not true before disney came along, I had lots of fun playing without membership and only had membership from time to time (for specific events) but then disney said no and made basically every event needing a membership.

[@Dannypopso]

This game defined so much of my childhood! Once we out grew it my CP friends and I moved to RuneScape 😂

[@claylilac3023]

That is a very unfortunate acronym

[@bendover9620]

CP friends? Oh, Club Penguin... yeah...

[@pheebs887]

My mom never let me play Club Penguin. She did allow me to play the fairies of pixiehollow version of this.

[@LagunaBeachGirlx5]

I used to love that one! I was a garden fairy

[@broguns2420]

The paid membership wasn’t bad at first like you can live without it it’s only around the later years of club penguin where it became a problem like even if your membership expired you can still use your outfits you unlock but after you couldn’t

[@FrozenCampbellSoup]

Do note there are still club penguin fanservers around, the most popular ones seem to be club penguin legacy and club penguin journey. also on a little more inside on what got rewritten taken down, the owner of the site started putting in a lot of ads and made so much money that he supposedly bought a house. this is likely what got rewritten taken down, because so far neither legacy or journey have been taken down, despite disney even being aware of legacy (the site got taken down but eventually relaunched so they must have come to an agreement). was also hoping you'd do a little bit on club penguin armies but im pretty sure an indept review of that would take a whole video lol

[@AddiJay2397]

I have the DS Games. Still play them to this day.

[@ChamberK-1]

I remember when I was a kid I got on my twin sisters account and said “fuck” in chat. Got banned instantly. Later that day my twin sister came crying to me asking why she was banned. I lied and said I don’t know. 17 or 19 years later and I STILL feel terrible about it. She probably forgot about it a long time ago though lol.

[@alecrutz6979]

what you have to think about also is how bad the membership problem became, to the point EVERYTHING felt members only. Non members only had two puffles available originally, red and blue, which worked a lot better when all you had were a few extra puffle colors. But then they started adding new types of puffles, and continued to restrict the non members to those original two puffles, and there's a reason I mention the colors of the two NMs were allowed, it's because puffles gave you extra coins if you were playing games with them, and the only one out of the two that could play a game with NMs was the red one playing the surfing game. So players were locked out of a lot of content. The problem is everything mentioned above, is JUST the puffles, it's a problem that was pervasive across the whole game. EVERY TIME there was a new event, NMs would be locked out of everything fun and be forced to just stick with the most basic stuff, and made the game really not fun unless you paid up.

[@ey3z4ya]

Maybe this was only the case during the earlier era of the game when I was playing, but I don't remember being very limited as a non-member. You still had options to dress your penguin, decorate your home and play quite a few levels of the games. Almost everything that a membership offered seemed more like extra bonuses that I didn't care for.

[@gothimaya2776]

Love your videos! I guess if you did a Club Penguin episode, you can always do SecondLife or IMVU when the idea well is a little dry. Keep up the content and I’ll keep watching! Found you on the OG channel and I LOVE the game-related channel idea! Much love to you and those you care about!!!

[@CrashDunning]

A lot of the things limited by membership weren't like that originally. It wasn't until years after Disney bought the game that they made those changes and started doing a lot of the shady shit. Same with adding in all of the totally unfitting Disney-related content.

[@SparkingSparks]

Great video, it's fun to see ppl talk about Club Penguin! I think the segments where you talked about membership were a bit exaggerated for both CP and CPI but still a fun vid

[@ZapStrideGaming]

I hope one day you make a vid on what's ruining/what ruined AnimalJam. Because that game, while it is not gone yet, is changing in ways fans of it from the beginning like me are upset by. I'm curious about the full history of it and what changed to make it become how it is today.

[@Ana36377]

I was an Animal Jam kid and I second this. The shift from being a science/learning based social game to… whatever it is now is disheartening (alongside the recent controversies its creator, Clark Gable - I think that was his name anyways - got himself into). I’d love to see a video based off that

[@kriscynical]

Club Penguin was a little after my time (I turned 16 in 2000) but if I had been a parent back then, I definitely wouldn't have minded paying a membership fee for my child to have a safe space online if that's what they were really into.

[@kukuky9339]

Club penguin was my childhood game, playing it for hours on my parents desktop, farming new card jitsu belts and playing multiple games with my friends. This video though showed me the other side of that coin and how Disney broke another game. It will still stay for me as a childhood memory of waddling on for hours in this world.

[@ethanthefishman]

Love the return to posting on this channel too! Video request: would you ever consider looking at the old Facebook game FarmVille?

[@petereckmann3896]

I remember playing the game back in elementary school and even in highschool! The game peaked in 2012 (in my opinion), that was the year when all parties reached their peak. Heck even Operation Blackops was that year too. (If you participated that party you will know why is it so special). And 2013 came along, the artstyle drastically changed and the game started losing its identity. After that my brother and I logged in less and less, maybe 1-2 times per month. In 2017 the game died. I only logged in to CP island once, but it was awful... So after 1 and a half year later that platform died too. As much as Disnep helped the game to reach more people, it also ruined it... and I can't forgive them eversince then...

[@luci187]

op blackout was THE takeover party, the only one that counts and thoroughly prepared by our former resident bear Herbert ..unlike the countless other soulless Disney cashgrab takeovers that went thereafter

[@rd101]

4:44 That was pretty neat. He says, "Speaking of which," and a clip of a penguin wearing a witch costume comes up lol.

[@AnotherAriaGrace]

Mountain Dew in World of Warcraft actually happened in 2009. Buying either the "horde" or "alliance" flavors would give you codes that would "fuel" your battle robots that could fight others. And to think, just this year, people were complaining about KFC promotional weapons in Diablo IV.

[@meatballs9339]

It so sad to see disney and the society itself is earressing memories and good quality from everything not just tv or games soon all memories with be replaced and forgotten for worse

[@EBTheOriginalMaster]

I can see a Toontown video being made in the future.

[@marissawolff8491]

We still have ToonTown Rewritten.

[@MadoyaTatemano]

@@marissawolff8491I think the OP meant a video about “What RUINED ToonTown Online”

[@owlcyclops7163]

I remember hearing about this from Izzzyzzz , It's of nice that now 2 youtubers I like talked about this.

[@StardustGrace]

Im 23 now and this game and fusionfall are what got me into online rpg games and i have so many good memories of this game and the puffles i would play it at my grandmas and have such a blast while i made new friends from those games i was there when it closed down! I was so sad :3

[@duckysguidetoshipping8930]

People that are money hungry

[@dixieduffy7]

Lol it makes so much sense. The entier first half is a massive success. Then Disney bought it.

[@catholiccontriversy]

For some reason wehner something gets bought out by a giant company it either completely dies or becomes a zombie of its former self. Like, is there a single time when "I was acquired by a major company and am better than ever?"

[@zscout370]

This was a site I never used, but did hear about it from time to time. I only heard a lot about it was when SOG discussed what was hinited at 23:46. Still, a very well done video.

[@andrewthemaroon8608]

Oook once I noticed the longer then normal pauses between each sentence it became all that I noticed

[@kcirreda]

@16:46 World of Warcraft did have Mountain Dew tie ins, in 2009 we had Blue Alliance and Orangered Horde flavors release followed in game by a non-combat pet that ran on 'War Fuel'. Don't know about Doritos in game though but there were plenty of crossover commercials like with Toyota Tacoma.

[@Fakenamedidiot]

Intersting insight of the game. For me, all these online games were basically forbidden because we always though that we HAD to pay to even play it. Granted it wasnt that far of thanks to memberships but we also couldn't play it because of how bad our internet was. We didnt play this, toon town or fusion fall. So i don't quite have the nostalgia for club penguin but i did manage to play a bit of Fusion Fall. It always sucks that these types of games end up backing up free players to buy a membership for extra things

[@smileitzfudead7506]

Maybe for the next What Ruined ____, talk about Fusionfall and its rise and fall (no pun intended)

[@Sollace]

To note onto the end: There is (at the time of writing) at least 3 Club Penguin remakes that I can find. All claim to be fan remakes and are using HTML5. It's pretty cool how the community is able to keep this going even in the face of a massive organisation like Disney.

[@yarnjplays2028]

On your main channel you should do a video of What's ruining Disney

[@stabbykinz1446]

I remember when I used to play on there as Iceage. Those were the days...

[@sierradonaldson2472]

Reminds me of how Disney took out Pixie Hollow and their fantastic MMO :(

[@Curiousbatling]

I felt like the rich kids overtook the game at times with how people would flant and brag about all the new items they bought with their real money

[@Neku628]

I'm wondering how much and if my mom even paid for my little sister's Club Penguin's membership. I remember her bitching about how she just went back to being a naked penguin with a basic igloo.

[@mattwo7]

0:18 This game came out a year after WoW and there were plenty of other online games that didn't rely on a browser by that point.

[@ironwolf5802]

I remember Club Penguin as a kid and when my Mom had some extra she let me get a membership I think after Disney got their hands on it. I even had the ds and Wii games.

[@meaganlongley618]

Excited for this one!! 🐧

[@bomberBrandon]

Something I remember is not being able to use member-only cosmetics I had after my membership ran out unless I was still wearing them. They were still on the account of course, just inaccessible.

[@cofagrigusfan24]

now i want to see a video about Neopets it is still around but man... it is in a rough shape

[@tabithaalphess2115]

I've been enjoying New Club Penguin, which is entirely free with all the membership features. It runs ads on the side, but it doesn't hinder the experience. It's been going strong for three years and has added a bunch of new content not present in the original. It's as fun as I remember it being as a kid

[@BroadwayBee1998]

My favorite aspect of club penguin was the secret agent missions. I had the ds game of it too lol

[@keeganm.9794]

I remember playing the original, and then rewritten after Disney pulled the plug. So many great memories, even if I could never convince my parents to pay for a membership. I hope the IP can make a comeback some day, because I know there's so many people out there who would love to play it again, myself included.

[@kevinjenkins233]

As a fun fact, there’s a very good Club Penguin remake available rn called New Club Penguin, it’s basically the exact same old 1 just without Disney involved and just passionate fans of the game and it’s legacy.

[@Niop_Tres]

Club Penguin wasn't always as predatory with its membership exclusive stuff. for some time, you could get stuff that was pretty good on the free version. I would know, I was there when it was written... But as time went by, and specially with Disney... it all just became impossible and unfun to play. Yearly events like Christmas, or the medieval party, which used to have plenty of stuff to do for free, became events where only member could have fun. free users like me hardly could partake in anything

[@Tocinos]

The fact that you needed a membership to wear clothes you already bought as a member...

[@Notamailman]

I would love to see a video about what happened to Nicktropolis. I remember playing this with my sister all the time it was basically a MMO by nickelodeon basically the same thing as club penguin but it didn’t cost anything.

[@mayorifujino]

You sould do moshi monsters!~ I was playing that instead when I was small

[@henrynguyen6799]

Damn I miss playing my old games man, Club penguin, Battle nations those games were a blast, same with Combat Arms too

[@RapticGaming]

A fellow Combat Arms Veteran. My accounts were General-RU, Fosnizzel, Pepi_Cola

[@PlebNC]

I hope we get a video on Habbo Hotel. If for nothing else than to revisit the 4Chan raids against it and all the child casino gambling that happened.

[@coffeecatklein]

I was devastated when CPR shut down, without any warning!! Amazing video

[@gracekim25]

I admit i can’t remember if I witnessed the part where Disney took over. I think they did a party themed on monster university but i can’t remember if i actually witnessed it myself because i eventually stopped playing due to high school 😅

[@antgrantrant]

17:39 Flash was "insecure". Yeah, although we all tried to make flash feel confident, sometimes you can only do so much. We always supported you, flash, even when html wouldnt.