WHAT'S A CINE LENS!? | + TOKINA CINEMA 11-20mm T2.9 Review on RED KOMODO 6K

[@sanakchandra]

You have some exceptional skill and talent. Not just creating the most CINEMATIC shots but also explaining us the same that you have possibly learnt. Thank you and keep rocking the floor & KZbin algorithm.

[@jpmorada]

Man you’re easily my favorite youtuber now! Looking forward to pulling the trigger to buying the Komodo soon.

[@Joey_Helms]

Cheers mate 🤙🤙 really appreciate it!

[@madhvanshchoksi3888]

Bro, No one does a Distortion test on the lens ( which is the main thing for many of us ) You are the BEST!

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks dude 😊

[@tomdchi12]

FANTASTIC shots of Chicago! Definitely itching to travel, but making the most of where we are is the next best thing. Great run through the lens. I've been using the Tokina 11-16 for years. I wasn't sure about going with a less well known brand, but while it isn't perfect, it has performed well and is still working great after years of use. The better zoom range of the 11-20 looks like a substantial improvement over the older 11-16.

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks so much Thomas. I am lucky I have a loads to shoot in the city but really really miss nature. Next year will be bonkers

[@shaneculpepper60]

"What are you celebrating? It's definitely not 2020." Comedy gold.

[@Joey_Helms]

Appreciate the appreciation ;)

[@eemoproductions3613]

Very nice review , lots of outdoor footage , super cool lens details macro shots with RGB lights !!! Can’t wait to see you talk about Dzo Pictor zooms !

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks a lot! :)

[@PARLAYSDREAM]

Just picked up the 11-20mm through the Komodo users page. It’s beautiful 🤩

[@Joey_Helms]

Congrats :)

[@cineformat6298]

@@Joey_Helms As we know Sigma cine zoom lenses are made from the same glass as Sigma's 18-35 and 50-100mm still lenses have. So question is this, does Tokina Cinema 11-20mm T2.9 ATX and Tokina 50-135mm T2.9 Mark II Cinema ATX lenses are made from same glass as their still versions? If yes can you tell me the full name of that still version? Because there are ton of tokina still lenses and i couldn't figure out or you can share a b&h,amazon link. I am just doing some research, thanks.

[@Joey_Helms]

@@cineformat6298 Yes, from what I have been told the same applies to the Tokina lense.s This would be the still brother: amzn.to/3smbPCo

[@cineformat6298]

@@Joey_Helms thank you

[@SkullBoundTV]

Thanks for the incredible review. Your videos are super informative and so well shot!

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks so much :)

[@markoboychuk]

Your broll of the lens with the smoke and lighting is killer!

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks so much Marko :)

[@Joey_Helms]

More to come ;)

[@EMBEVIDEO]

Nice piece of glass- And 11-20 is an awesome range! Last Tokina lens I used was sometimes in the 80s. So I might find a way to test this one. Great review - good job! Have a nice weekend!

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks so much Embe! Happy to hear it was helpful :)

[@joenicklo]

Congrats on 20K Joey. Also, thanks for reminding me about Active Track on the Ronin. Gonna have to use it.

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks a lot mate! :)

[@buddyfx7026]

I got this same lens with the RS 2 as well, freaking LOVE IT! I used to use the Laowa 7.5 for my GH5 but once switching over to the BMPCC 6K, I needed a wide zoom lens that wasn't slow.. couldn't be happier!

[@buddyfx7026]

I also got the Pictor set as well, didn't realize you had those too! :)

[@Joey_Helms]

Great to hear :) I don't own the PICTOR zooms. A buddy of mine does.

[@buddyfx7026]

@@Joey_Helms bit of barrel distortion, don't think they'll match the best with the Tokinas but still love them. It's getting better and better out here for cinema glass :)

[@thisisbug]

@@buddyfx7026 how do you like the 20 55 now? think it has to much CA or is to soft? also do you need lens support? Do you find is practical for a 1 man band use?

[@Clickumentary]

Love seeing a Chicago homie showing off our beautiful city...awesome footage!

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks 🤙🤙🤙

[@madhvanshchoksi3888]

Hey Joey! I saw the Venus Optic Laowa 12mm 0 distortion lens. But unfortunately for us Komodo Users, the crop in 4k is 1.5x so 18mm was not ok for me BUT this Tokina lens with least distortion is a great lens and is perfect for the crop! Thanks for the review man!

[@Joey_Helms]

You are more than welcome!

[@GeorgeCanyonMusic]

Great shots !! Love the channel

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks so much :)

[@_juanchamorro]

Great video as always man! in awe of those amazing sequences

[@Joey_Helms]

Happy to hear Juan!

[@gemini1213]

Thanks for the great video. Received my Komodo 2 days ago and this lens is high on my wishlist.

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks a lot! And congrats! :)

[@doug_EX]

This and the DZOFilm 20-55 would make a great combo!

[@Joey_Helms]

👌👌👌 they look a little different but agreed

[@joejamesphoto]

I was wondering about lens choice if I pick up the komodo, perfect option! Keep crushing these vids man! (Also love the "shot on" watermark, thats a nice touch!)

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks so much Joe. Yeah I am surprised noone has been doing this consistently before. We always want to know the camera/lens stuff is shot on, right? ;)

[@PakeSalmon]

I am so ready to GO! Thanks for you're reviews & bts. =)

[@Joey_Helms]

🤙🤙🤙🤙

[@wcsdiaries]

Thank you for explaining cinema lenses and the basic properties in plain english. I learn a lot from your vids

[@Joey_Helms]

That's awesome to hear!!! 🤙👌

[@wcsdiaries]

@@Joey_Helms Based on your experience with the komodo, would you recommend this set up for cinematic travel videos? Or do you think this cinema tokina+komodo setup is too bulky for traveling abroad? Is the komodo great for traveling or requires too much gear to rig it up?

[@Joey_Helms]

This is 100% my plan. This camera makes traveling lightweight with a RED to get that image quality possible for the first time. I have not been able to test it on an actual trip (as we are all locked in) but will do so as soon as it is possible. I will make a video on my first trip with the Komodo for sure once it is coming up.

[@wcsdiaries]

@@Joey_Helms cant wait! Thank you for the response! Look forward to following you on your camera journey

[@Joey_Helms]

Anytime 🤙

[@sanakchandra]

I have seen most of your videos. They are top notch quality. Hope you will do more & more such videos. I also hope I will meet you. I am from INDIA, I have visited USA about 10 yrs back. I guess when I visit USA again I can reach out to you and learn much more stuff in cinematography. (Although I know I am already learning great stuff from this channel) I think it will be great to meet you personally. All the best. Make great stuff like this. 😊

[@kevinjohnson7288]

Dude... so sick seeing all this, B&H had a deal on it and I bought it without trying it. But seeing this review has me CONFIDENT it's going to be sick on the Komodz. Love your stuff, bro!

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks so much Kevin! Yeah I saw the Komodo related deal :) good stuff!

[@joshboston9514]

Loving all you videos bro! Always so fun, authentic and all with helpful reviews. Keep up the killer work. PS - Was all the movement in this video shot on the RS2?

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks so much Josh! Most of them except the shots with me on the bike. That's on the Ronin 2. ;)

[@salsero2627]

I have the photography version of this lens, same optics, everything is identical but the housing. The focus has hard stops so all you have to do is 3D print a Seamless focus and zoom gears and done ✅ not to mention it’s only $400 bucks🤗. A must have lens

[@Joey_Helms]

👌👌👌👌👌🎉

[@thisisbug]

@@Joey_Helms how parfocal is the photo version?

[@petero1068]

Great stuff. Keep it coming.

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks a lot

[@CameronNunez]

Love the videos, got my eyes set on this lens now

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks so much Cameron

[@Bobbylopezcreative]

I'd love to see an image comparison between this cine lens and the photography version which is a fraction of the price.

[@mmottekk]

I hope that one of your upcoming videos is on the Pictors. If so, it would be great if you could actually touch on the differences and the similarities between them and the Tokina. Anyhow, thanks for another great video!

[@JeffBodeanCinema]

I ordered this lens a month ago. Still no sign of it. Would be nice if Tokina actually shipped. As far as your channel goes, I enjoy your work. And thank you for not waving your hands like a mad-man for every syllable that comes out of your mouth like the other KZbin camera people do. I thought the whole KZbin-hand-gesture thing went out in 2012, but it would appear some of these camera guys have failed to get the memo. Looking forward to more of your vids.

[@Joey_Helms]

Ha, thanks! Appreciate it!! Hope your lens arrived very soon 🤞🤞🤞

[@45rpm_Dan]

You are doing an amazing job. I love watching your videos even though I shoot on a BMPCC 6k. I can tell there is a ton of work you put into each video. Your shots are beautiful and inspiring. The one question I always have in the back of my mind though is, are you German? I am a filmmaker in LA and originally from Berlin. :) Keep up with the awesome work!

[@Joey_Helms]

Vielen lieben Dank! ;) I guess that answers it! ;) Really appreciate the kind words. And ha yeah, putting an unreasonable amount of time in those videos ;)

[@45rpm_Dan]

@@Joey_Helms It's great to see a fellow german filmmaker in the states. Good luck with all your projects. Alles alles gute!!!

[@Joey_Helms]

Danke danke, wünsch ich dir auch

[@benwebb1]

Great lens for real estate videos

[@Joey_Helms]

👌👌

[@peteralessandriaphotography]

You Rock Joey! 🎥🎥🎥

[@Joey_Helms]

No, you rock! 🤙

[@JunyNoLimit]

Grate lens better review!!! I see you use the Eva1. I like the image it produce. Can you make a video about buying that camera in 2021? 🙌🏼

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks so much 🤙 also for the suggestion. I will put it on my list of potential videos :)

[@rubenpalace]

Prefect when using the MōVI

[@Joey_Helms]

For sure!!

[@yreyes1451]

Like the look of the "story time" intro of the video. Did you use Ipp2 with a particular curve ? Medium/Soft? Low/ Very soft?

[@Droneas]

I subscribed to your Excellent channel and thank you.

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks so much!! 🤙

[@TLFILMS]

Hey Joey and team here, first super nice review. I got the same set up and got a problem about focusing. Can't get to the infinity. Did you shims/deshims your lens for EF adapter please?

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks! And that's odd, I didn't have any infinity issues. No shims. Maybe reach out to Tokina to explore this.

[@TLFILMS]

@@Joey_Helms thanks for this answer! got the KipperTie Revolva, maybe due to that

[@Joey_Helms]

Oh that's the variable. So possibly yes.

[@jakestockstill5292]

Yo Joey! Have you considered trying those DZO cine zooms with the Komodo? Could be an insane run and gun combo👀 Also congrats on the Tokina partnership!

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks a ton! I did try the DZOs but they are too large and heavy for my taste. Going with the Fujinon MK now. Lighter and smaller, which should be better for run&gun

[@jakestockstill5292]

@@Joey_Helms oh shoot I forgot about those ones😂😂😅

[@friederikemay5735]

very beautiful video

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks a million

[@zloslov]

4:11 I can see how the frame faltered due to the change in the direction of rotation of the focusing ring. This means that the lens does not hold well in the mount. You can't avoid buying a KipperTie.

[@Joey_Helms]

Yeah there is definitely some movement if you don't mount the lens or go PL ... Booooo!

[@leotumwattana]

Super cool B-Roll. May I know which fog machine you used? Something big or small? Any recommendations on small fog machines? Thanks.

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks Leo. Just a standard party fog machine ;)

[@leotumwattana]

@@Joey_Helms Awesome. Thanks for sharing. I’m going to end up buying a fog machine because of your video. 🤣

[@Joey_Helms]

Hahaha luckily not a big ticket item

[@leotumwattana]

@@Joey_Helms Well. You also got me to buy the Tokina 11-20 Cine. 😵 Actually, I’ve been eyeing that for a while. So don’t feel too bad. 😝

[@Joey_Helms]

😂😂😂😂 ooops

[@manchester8117]

Great review. Thanks.

[@Joey_Helms]

🤙🤙🤙

[@Metaldetectiontubeworldwide]

congratulations not celebrating 2020 but 20000 !

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks so much 🤙👍👍

[@Bishunmo1]

👀 Www. ....Ooooo...wwww!!! Awesssom lens!

[@mohammadabumoin]

Bro just make a video of all the lenses for the komodo💯

[@cokdeindra8627]

enjoy your content from far away indonesia

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks so much 🤙👍😁

[@Metaldetectiontubeworldwide]

sexy glass btw ! l always wondered how a ultrafast cine prime would perform for astrophotography ?? the most difficult with astro is the focussing , on distant stars or galaxies , because the infinity mark is definatly not correct , on any lens .(astro) And the difference between topnotch and failure lies in margins of 1/10 mm,even less of focusthrow with an followfocusrig and cinelens it looks a better choise .. grtzz Johny Geerts

[@Joey_Helms]

Second! :)

[@jujuchiriqui]

I have a red epic helium, super 35, so in 8k I have vignetting from 11 to 13 mm

[@SanPandey]

How do they compare to fujinon mk 18 to 55, I am trying to make a choice.

[@maconins123]

Just realized you had the eva1 as well!?!?

[@Joey_Helms]

I do :)

[@maconins123]

fesch, um es auf Wienerisch zu sagen! cause I know you understand ;-)

[@Joey_Helms]

Ha danke ;)

[@IanHavens]

I saw you using the DZO Pictors in a couple shots, do they match well with this lens? Also are you doing a video on those lenses? Thanks

[@ChevitosJourney]

Hey Joey! - Thanks for this video and as usual, GREAT content! - I'm about to get this lens but I've been getting a lot of comments about it producing too much chromatic aberration, is that something you encountered, and if so, how did you deal with it? Thanks, man! Keep on creating!

[@ChevitosJourney]

Oooh, I kinda noticed it on the far right building 09:23

[@exoticcarlife2904]

@@ChevitosJourney Damn, good catch. Did you end up getting it?

[@ChevitosJourney]

@@exoticcarlife2904 - I did! I have it now, I thought it was worth it especially with some easy fix for it. :)

[@sixsoxsex1]

This is a camera studied to be use with autofocus lenses to be controlled it by ipad app but you prefer a fully manual lens with an electric external follow focus? Why?

[@kevinmiddleton1304]

Hi Joey, great review as always. I was wondering, is the Canon EF-EOS R mount included with the Komodo suitable for mounting this lens weight wise? Or would you recommend a lens support? I just received my 11-20mm in the mail and its a bit heavier than expected. Thank you.

[@Joey_Helms]

Thanks a million Kevin! It should be fine but of course you are always on the safe side with lens support. I am not using any at my own risk.

[@rencypunnoose9717]

Joey, How is the CA and Focus breathing on these ? And how do this match with Fujinon mk ? Will it be a good combo ?

[@davidbennett3575]

I have had a Komodo on order for a while as I would like to get back to global shutter. However since ordering they have come out with the C70 and FX6, would you still go with the Komodo and if so why?

[@damion-live]

Can you tell me the counter weights you use with that lens and rs2 please thank you

[@Joey_Helms]

UURig - more info in my RS2 review

[@buddyfx7026]

Question, is some of the haze/fog done in post? Or just most in cam?

[@Joey_Helms]

All in camera ;)

[@sixsoxsex1]

Is it a parfocal lens

[@Joey_Helms]

Yessir

[@Sr7Sr7Sr7]

Looks like this is sold in PL and EF versions. Did you go EF to use the RF-EF adapter with ND?

[@Joey_Helms]

That's exactly the reason and because I have other EF glass so I can stick to one adapter.

[@Sr7Sr7Sr7]

@@Joey_Helms Any looseness or wobble going with the EF adapter approach with this lens? Wondering if solidness of the PL is worth the pain of having to use a filter up front. Thanks for the reply, and amazing content btw. Btw looks like Tokina has a matching 25mm-75mm coming, but it will retail for $5799 :o

[@Joey_Helms]

Yeah with the EF you always have some wobble and would have to fix the lens. Really depends on how you are planning to use it and priorities.

[@tra5hh]

How is this lens with a Sony fx3?

[@maconins123]

Looks cool anyway

[@danielmartucci1040]

This may be a dumb question - Could someone explain the difference between the $500 tokina 11-20 lens and the $2200 tokina cinema 11-20 lens?

[@gemini1213]

$1700

[@Joey_Helms]

Basically all the things I laid out what makes a cine lens different: Built quality and housing gearing Parfocality Reduced focus breathing

[@Real_Ashd]

Where did you get the RED hoodie?

[@MarMotion]

did you find out yet? :(

[@Real_Ashd]

@@MarMotion No, I don't know where we can buy a Red Studio hoodie. Joey ignored my question :(. But I found, we can buy a Red t-shirt and hat on Red's website.

[@Joey_Helms]

Sorry just reading this comment - I got it straight from RED. Not sure if you can buy it anywhere. Got the hats though from their website as well. hint: you can get them at B&H for less shipping too ;)

[@Real_Ashd]

@@Joey_Helms Thank you for the information :)

[@MarMotion]

@@Joey_Helms thanks mate!

[@sijilo]

Oh auto track comodo

[@Joey_Helms]

This is the way!

[@nishanreddy6853]

why is your footage sequence same in evry video xD

[@charliemcgrain]

Your only problem is your talent will not want you getting too close with this lens.