What’s Better Buy? Triangle Borea BR03 or Wharfedale Diamond 225

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Tharbamar

4 жыл бұрын

Triangle Borea BR03 Speakers amzn.to/2ybOCwj
Price: $549 (April, 2020)
Overall Rating: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ¾
Pros: Detail Sound, Clean Midrange and Bass, Good Sound Stage.
Cons: A Little Cold And Bright Sound Signature From Upper Midrange to Highs, Cabinet Vinyl Wrapping is Not Up To Standard.
Build Quality: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️
Highs: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ½
Midrange: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ¾
Bass: ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️⭐️
Sound Stage:⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
Price: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ½
Associated Equipments;
Wharfedale Evo 4.2: amzn.to/3c9BIwv
KEF LS50: amzn.to/36DQv1t
B&W 706 S2 Speakers: ebay.to/2Vuyi15
Wharfedale Diamond 225: amzn.to/3aAT5Wg
Denon PMA-SX11 Integrated Amp: ebay.us/KV7KC3
Marantz UD7007: ebay.us/zZfGqC
Denon DP-47F Turntable: ebay.us/5v1hAR
Denon DL-301 MK II MC Cart: amzn.to/3abnWZc
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Timeline;
0:00 Build Quality
2:18 Measurements & Comparison Review
09:54 BR03 Sound Sample
12:29 Diamond 225 Sound Sample

Пікірлер: 313
@jornkohler4977
@jornkohler4977 6 ай бұрын
Triangle sound very dynamic, clear and engaging. The Borea series is most fun I ever had with budget speakes. Pair ist with the right stereo amp (not AV receiver) and you will be surprised what is possibe in this price range.
@SuperSeltzer
@SuperSeltzer Жыл бұрын
After I researched long and hard for warm and laid back pair of speakers I had great anticipation for Wharfedale diamond 225 and it did not disappoint when it arrived.
@MrJeffuz
@MrJeffuz 3 жыл бұрын
Tharbamar, I’m so glad I came across this review. I was about to purchase the Triangles but based on your comparison here and other glowing reviews I went with the Wharfedale 225’s. I was hoping to be able to use your link below but It didn’t take me to the right product page unfortunately.
@jgdaprem
@jgdaprem 4 жыл бұрын
Thabamar, as usual, you are the best !! and I still love my Wharefedale 225 !
@jameswheeler7679
@jameswheeler7679 4 жыл бұрын
Another awesome review if I continue to keep watching your reviews I'll probably end up getting more speakers I just bought a pair over a month ago
@yippie6862
@yippie6862 Жыл бұрын
The Triangles are so much better. Clearer, more detailed, still smooth, better bass, better soundstage and presence. Not even close.
@stephen579
@stephen579 6 ай бұрын
I have had many makes of speakers over many years and I can honestly say the 225s are great.
@dmitriijustnow770
@dmitriijustnow770 4 жыл бұрын
I bought 225 a long time ago, after your first review) I took them apart, there are features: the surface under the woofer is varnished, but there are sharp bumps that prevent the speaker from being pressed tightly, they need to be sanded with sandpaper) the woofer itself seems to have a plastic basket! ! I haven’t seen such a thing yet ... but overall the sound is very pleasant, my room has the lowest bass, a great mid, sometimes the highest frequencies are not enough, maybe this is due to the characteristics of my audio system ...
@lpspinners8736
@lpspinners8736 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting - great review! I appreciate your descriptions comparing these brands. I would give the edge to the Triangles as the boomy low end of the Wharfedales was a bit distracting and slow, as you mentioned in the review.
@dmitriijustnow770
@dmitriijustnow770 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for starting to apply the measurements! keep growing! measurements are very important with such a variety of speakers and they allow you to more objectively evaluate the sound. ps. next wharf 225 vs revel m16 )
@marcosr2
@marcosr2 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, inspired me to buy a Wharfedale Diamond 225 in the future! thanks man.
@williammoore2367
@williammoore2367 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great reviews and appreciate your KZbin channel.. I was looking for a really great Bookself and after seeing this Comparison with the BRO3’s I decided to order the Warfedale 225’s..super excited and also will try your suggested changes with the plate and wires.. Keep up the good work!!!
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@williammoore2367
@williammoore2367 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar received the speakers yesterday and I was amazed by the musicality and the quality…even the black cabinets are veneer!!! Stunning and the sound stage and imaging is Tommy liking. Treble and mid range is vantastic bass is great and will do your recommend modification which I see this will make a difference on certain musical pieces on the bass..even at that I can’t get over how great they sound Huff another HiFi reviewer is also spot on about the 225’s for price I think you have to exceed 1000 to find something that would be better… Again personal choices a must try!!!! Thanks so much for doing the review
@dizzy6745
@dizzy6745 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I hope you are staying healthy and safe!
@corkydukeII5898
@corkydukeII5898 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison....hopefully someday you'll get around to the Wharfedale Diamond 11.2 speakers for review
@roig8578
@roig8578 4 жыл бұрын
Triangle sounds more natural and clear. Wharfedale is too warm for my taste, sounds far away and distant, non-engaging. Thanks, this is helping me narrow down my choices.
@markwinechairman
@markwinechairman 3 жыл бұрын
I love my br03s!!! Awesome sound!!!
@normandyflores554
@normandyflores554 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. More power to your channel 💪
@tpilot61
@tpilot61 4 жыл бұрын
I know it is not the best way to hear via youtube but using my Grado headphones I find the bass on the Triangle faster and has more texture.
@Nicnackity
@Nicnackity 4 жыл бұрын
Another great review. Next wd225 vs psb p5.
@tcc5750
@tcc5750 4 жыл бұрын
+1
@AmbientWanderer
@AmbientWanderer 4 жыл бұрын
The Triangles sounded much more open and dynamic, and with more impact. However, they do sound a little to sibilant. Shame that the highs are not just a tiny bit more rolled off
@kenlane3001
@kenlane3001 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts!...Nice work. :)
@zenfishbike
@zenfishbike 4 жыл бұрын
Love that you provide sound comparisons but selected track(s) should include voice, male and female if possible. Thanks
@nobicubalibre2143
@nobicubalibre2143 2 жыл бұрын
I picked up a pair of the bro03 and I am running them on a emotiva ta1 integrated amp..and boy do the triangle sound great and found the B&W 606 anniversary edition way to bright much brighter then bro3 and the bro3 haven’t been broken in yet..
@ekaftttt
@ekaftttt 4 жыл бұрын
These Triangle people are never going to send you another product to review . Thank you for your honest review . I trust ur channel the most to all the many reviewers I have been watching . You know all the top ones on who are doing reviews these days .
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
I’m ok with that, I’d just share the actual experience. thanks
@davidmlevitt
@davidmlevitt 4 жыл бұрын
I own the Triangle Bro3. I think they sound amazing. Very detailed, great sounds stage, excellent clean bass. In truth I enjoy them more than the Buchardt s400 which I returned. It is the tonality that makes these speakers so special. I can't wait to play music through these speakers everyday. Non fatiguing.
@davidmlevitt
@davidmlevitt 4 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Zielinski Hi Thomas. I have never heard the Totem rainmakers. Stereophile has an excellent review on them. The review is fairly glowing. The Totems are almost double the price and their build quality is better than the Triangle Bro3s. The Triangles for $549 are just so much fun and I like to rotate them into my listening room. You have an incredible amp so I'm thinking you want a speaker that would better match it's capability. If you have the budget I think you should be looking at speakers $1,000 or more just my thinking. Sometimes the best part is the search for something special for you. Thomas's channel does a great job of categorizing different types of speakers and his input could be helpful to you. I love the sound of the paper cones on the Triangles Bro3s, the tonality is amazing for the price the technology today is flattening the cost to quality curve. I hope this helps.
@ManuelMedellin.
@ManuelMedellin. Жыл бұрын
@@davidmlevitt Paper Cone midrange makes all the difference. I listened to 75 brands and Triangle win for me. They are also better french brand than Focal. Oh, but I also love the Tribal Totem Tower a lot, but Totem Acoustics brand are too expensive for me.
@Clx1
@Clx1 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!
@johan5660
@johan5660 4 жыл бұрын
Great and unbiased review 👍👍👍
@tudordoru5388
@tudordoru5388 3 жыл бұрын
I am sure that this two speakers (BR03 and Diamond 225) are very good both of them. But we must pair them with right amp, preamp, room etc. And, this is another important aspect, we must pair with personal subjective preference also! Otherwise they will sound worst for us! For exemple I went to the local hi fi market and listen many kind of speakers: warm, natural warm, natural bright and bright. I chose a warm one because my personal preference! My subjective choice it was this wharfedale 225. For exemple, when I was in this maket the bright/natural speaker was Monitor Audio silver 100. A good speaker but not my taste (too bright for me). At home, first try, I put this Wharfedale on Marantz 1506 receiver. The sound it was very bottomed because both the speaker and the receiver it was on the warm signature side and the sound result was very dull! But, when I added in this chain the Emotiva bass x 300 power amp, the same Wharfedale speakers became alive (booom!!!). Sound got a volum, dynamic, bass has more power and vitality, it was like a have a subwoofer in the room (but not the most clearest bass I ever heard-you can't have them all :) ). And even the high frecvency become more rafinet and more like "in front of you"! They become another speakers after I pair them with Emotiva 150w power!!! If you have this Wharfedale must pair with a muscle and dynamic amp, not just because their poor 87db sensitivity but for their strong personality and signature in sound! Do Not use a warm signature amp with this speakers, only if you want to boil your room atmosphere :) !!!! This is my system chain and impressions not in order of importance: 1 17 square meters irregular room, more like a "D" shape, 3.10m high, with lot of open doors! This is one on the most important part of my system chain which has the greatest impact on sound, this is a given... 2 Laptop with hdmi cable for preamp 3 Preamp Marantz 1506 (too warm with no detail, but very musical and delicate) 4 Amp Emotiva BassX 300 (muscular amp with natural sound, extraordinary atack and aggressivity) 5 QED XT40 cables (no comment) 6 Speakers stands full with sand (for robustness of bass) 7 Wharfedale Diamond 225 60cm from the wall, 190cm beetwen them (very easy to listen speaker with warm signature and top design) 8 and my hi fi ears :) a very personal and subjective piece of gear...most important part of the chain :) I am very satisfied with this "hi fi chain" with a well balanced sound, with a warmth character just the way I like it!
@alpaslanbek
@alpaslanbek 4 жыл бұрын
Diamonds feel like they are easier to listen to and not fatiguing as much. Boreas sound like Dali Zensor 3 to me. Bright and punchy
@aldoporopat1282
@aldoporopat1282 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparisons ...even with the you tube compression , I found the triangles much more realistic of sound reproduction .. the 220s sounded kinda boomy and muffled in the lower end... instrument separation was better with the triangles as well for these ears, thanks again I enjoy your videos👍
@gasolin75
@gasolin75 3 жыл бұрын
It's the diamond 225 not 220
@AbsoluteFidelity
@AbsoluteFidelity 3 жыл бұрын
Bahahahahahahahahahahaha
@weaselpopper
@weaselpopper Жыл бұрын
The spacer works but if you go too high bass notes will lose definition. I did it to my D220`s and had to just use small thick metal washers for a slight difference the plastic spacers used here were too tall for D220. This series of Diamonds shine for their midrange voicing. And you can listen all day with zero fatigue as they are very flat throughout compared to most in this price range. The boom you are hearing is in the recording, the lower bass the D225 exhibited in the sound freq test you could hear come in at a much lower freq. The Bro3 just stops it`s low end at the kick spot so sound tighter. That same kick spot is also present in the D225. Listen again. Just bought the D225`s they are still available and being sold, at a bargain price so I get to do it again.
@andreassouth1523
@andreassouth1523 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. At 12.41 wf 225 give you that "umph" lower bass kick very distinguish,always compared to Borea BR03.Transition shifts are way better.Also fills the room with sound very easily with great mids and relaxing highs without beeing bright,ear fatigue or harsh.The difference in build quality is obvious, in favor of wf225.Multi award-winning speakers from many websites and magazines as best speaker until 1000$.Vote for wf225.
@ManuelMedellin.
@ManuelMedellin. Жыл бұрын
Borea line won EISA Best Buy Award, EISA most respected Award in HIFI in Europe.
@decoryder
@decoryder 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, listening to the original track on a pair of ELAC Debut Ref. DBR 62's to the original soundtrack for comparison, and the recording above: The Triangles sound more 'realistic' in the treble, with better instrument separation. The Wharfedales have better bass and dynamics, and the midrange seems more 'integrated', since the treble is slightly rolled off. The flute at the end of the demo really shows the difference: It sounds really harsh and loud on the Triangles, and much smoother and natural on the Wharfedales; given the fact that this is an in-room recording, where most of the sound is lost, I think the Triangles can get bright and fatiguing, at least in in this comparison. Myself, I never had any luck with 'revealing' speakers, they always end up bothering me during long and/or loud listening sessions - YMMV. If I had to pick between the two pairs, I would choose the Wharfedales, since they will be more compatible with a wide range of sources of different quality, and will play louder without killing my ears. Thx Tharbamar - very helpful review, as always.
@erikalexander6602
@erikalexander6602 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting to get completely different options on the triangles, depending on reviewer . Looks like, as with anything, must try yourself! I’m thinking the Triangles, with forgiving tube gear, would be the more interesting sounding speakers with movies and dynamic music
@JuXuS1
@JuXuS1 2 жыл бұрын
The Triangles are the first speakers i own where i can see what bassdrum was played and how hard or doft the beater was. im a drummer.
@FarHagh
@FarHagh 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting view. Based on the demo here alone, the Triangles are more engaging and detailed, without getting bright. Not considering the price, I would pick the 225 around 30 years ago when all my collection was crappy copies on cassette, as they seem more forgiving!
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin demos don’t do any justice of real sound.
@JohnBog
@JohnBog 11 ай бұрын
@@Tharbamar So would you say that the 225s or the triangles sound more impressive?
@JohnBog
@JohnBog 11 ай бұрын
@@Tharbamar actually, let me rephrase that question - where do you think the 225s stand overall compared to all of your speakers?
@Maravalmusic
@Maravalmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, with graphs, not just music and words...
@robertbradley6393
@robertbradley6393 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Tharbamar
@JohnDoe-go8xh
@JohnDoe-go8xh 3 жыл бұрын
I intended to get an additional pair of Wharfedale Diamond 225 speakers for my entertainment center but they are now discontinued in the US and no longer available. Apparently they were replaced with the Diamond 12.2 speakers which appear to be differently constructed and the bass system is also very different. Do you think my entertainment system would sound good if I ordered the new 12.2 speakers and used them as my front speakers, and moved my 225 speakers and used them as my rear speakers? I do not think you have reviewed the 12.2 speakers yet. Do you think they will be as good as the 225 speakers? Thanks in advance for any comments or suggestions.
@lawrencemo1231
@lawrencemo1231 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Tharbamar, good comparison! Any chance to test out Focal Chora speakers? Thanks!
@YannickKhong
@YannickKhong 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah D225 owner here
@YGDification
@YGDification 4 жыл бұрын
Me to !
@drazenbabich
@drazenbabich 4 жыл бұрын
Diamond 225s are still a golden example in their class after all these years - still hard to beat. They're bettered by 11.2s, true, but that's another class both in performance and price range.
@Beathoven007
@Beathoven007 2 жыл бұрын
I own the Diamond 11.2 for a secondary setup, but the 12 series are the current bar standard. The Wharfedale Evo 4.1 is in my opinion one to look for to be fully satisfied. I own the 4.2 and when I would replace the diamonds it would be for the Evo 4.1. Both the 4.1 and 4.2 are definite purchases for an average home.
@drazenbabich
@drazenbabich 2 жыл бұрын
@@Beathoven007 Diamomd 12.2 just didn't hit it with me. Prefer more balanced warmer notes of 11.2, so that's what I stuck with. I am also a visual guy and 11.2 just projects a slightly higher level of opulence and sophisticated design detail, hardly found in this more pedestrian class of speakers. This is all however very subjective, what works for some doesn't for others. Great to be able to have the option to choose, though. Evo's are different class altogether, both componentry and quality-wise, likely to come with slightly subtler, more upper class sound profile too. Cheers.
@zogzog1063
@zogzog1063 4 жыл бұрын
i love your reviews even though I run Emm Labs, Pass, and Magico.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! Thanks
@ML-rm3vk
@ML-rm3vk 3 жыл бұрын
hi fine review very impressive . thank you peace
@user-zh7eo2ul2v
@user-zh7eo2ul2v 4 жыл бұрын
Best budget bookshelf speakers - Canton GLE 436.2! Really have very good sound! 👍 Have great bass! 👍 38 hz! Today two ✌ models best budget speakers !!! Canton GLE 436.2 and very good budget speakers Mohr LS20 (bookshelf) and SL20 (floor)! 👍
@Eyerex
@Eyerex 4 жыл бұрын
Been thinking about buying a set of Wharfedale Diamond 225 for a while now as my JPW Sonata's like me are starting to show there age
@pandujatiutomo2609
@pandujatiutomo2609 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this awesome comparison, my next request please review Mission QX-2 and compare to them, because QX-2 have so good review at AV forums, hifi choice and what hifi.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I can get them for samples here in the U.S.
@MrBravo143
@MrBravo143 4 жыл бұрын
D 225 or Elac Debut B6.2. which is better? If you can review, that's great.
@MattZildjian
@MattZildjian 4 жыл бұрын
I had the PSB P5's and thought they were really bright and harsh, I swapped them for the Diamond 220's, much better but I often wish for more bass. I have my bass turned up slightly on the amp for the 220's.
@tcc5750
@tcc5750 4 жыл бұрын
225 has more bass than 220 but larger size too
@moto-rambler
@moto-rambler 4 жыл бұрын
PLEASE review the Mission QX-2 bookshelf.
@Mihai092
@Mihai092 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tharbamar, thank u for this great review and measurements ! PS: Did u had the chance to audition Diamond 11.2 or maybe compare the 225 with the 11.2 in the near future or even Evo 4.1/2 ? I Had 11.2 but i didnt had 225, im curious how do they compare, i heard 11.2 is more laid-back than 225 and have a bit better low end and wider soundstage.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
I will do, thanks
@jaytorr6701
@jaytorr6701 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm.. The 225 and 12.1 are similar price. Maybe a comparison between them?
@wiebl5266
@wiebl5266 4 жыл бұрын
Your sound clip, plus your description, have convinced me to buy the wharfedale d225. On it's way to me, will update you. Your dedication to this hobby is... beyond words. I wonder, would you be willing to sell me a pair of your DIY interconnects of speaker cables?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I do not sell cables, thanks
@wiebl5266
@wiebl5266 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your reply.
@odannyblueso
@odannyblueso 3 жыл бұрын
please compare ELAC DBR62 vs WHARFEDALE EVO 4.2, Please
@Miguel8131981
@Miguel8131981 4 жыл бұрын
Hey there Tharbamar. Thanks for another great video. I just have one little question if you have the time. How does the Wharfedale Diamond 225 speaker compare to the Bowers & Wilkins 606 speaker?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I like 606 for for details, attack and transparency but it can get bright with some music, D225 is more relaxed and soft yet richer engaging tonality that I can enjoy for long time, I like the vocals on D225 more than other speakers in the price range. Thanks
@Mark-ro5zg
@Mark-ro5zg 3 жыл бұрын
Do the 225's really have a 6.5" woofer? These are similar in size to the Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2 speakers. I measured to the outside of the surrounds and it only measures 5.5" on the Elac's.
@DJJASProductions
@DJJASProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Great Review! I am mainly watching tv and movies on Netflix. I need something with superb vocal clarity for dialogue and intelligibility. What would you recommend?
@makarhomenko6394
@makarhomenko6394 4 жыл бұрын
Triangle Borea BR03 SupeR!!!
@legaspi89
@legaspi89 4 жыл бұрын
How does wharfedale 225 compare to the wharfedale 10.2 speaker?
@manardh7387
@manardh7387 4 жыл бұрын
I hear the Triangle seems to have a bit more dynamic reach, and the highs are more prominent. The Wharfedale seems a bit muddy even with a slight better bass definition. Great job on the comparison.
@daniel1233
@daniel1233 4 жыл бұрын
@@phantasm1004 Possibly, he summarized my opinion on the little brothers of the two, the D220 and BR02. I like the triangles a lot better than the d220 especially when it comes to vocals, d220 sounds muddy and unfocused.
@ibz925
@ibz925 4 жыл бұрын
@@daniel1233 the 225 is a quite different from the 220... It has a bigger bass driver, and they are pretty amazing. I got them recently and have paired them with a NAD 3020 and the sound is just phenomenal
@kwangnam8320
@kwangnam8320 3 жыл бұрын
Hi everyone, if compare the 225 with Diamond 11.2, which one is better? In terms of bass response, mid range and upper.
@williamjueschke9960
@williamjueschke9960 4 жыл бұрын
I admit, the drums sound more present with Diamonds 225’s.
@b10-archive
@b10-archive 4 жыл бұрын
I recently bought the 225s based on your high quality reviews
@BogdanDorianC
@BogdanDorianC 4 жыл бұрын
And? What do you think of them out of the box? I know they need 40+ hours of break-in, but still, can you give an opinion?
@b10-archive
@b10-archive 4 жыл бұрын
BogdanDorianC I’m satisfied with them. The music is very detailed and not fatiguing. They’ve been fun to win so far.
@alainbesario6679
@alainbesario6679 4 жыл бұрын
it bottoms down to personal preference and electronic matching, base on the vid borea not bright but just because if its upper mid forward character it seems bright, needs to be matched w/ warmer electronics, I believe Denon amps don't have that character, while wharfedales are a bit warmer due to upper highs recessed and not so upfront in character, it needs to be matched with amps that have good authority a neutral character to shine it out, so synergy is the bottomline. Both speakers are good in their respective price range
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Disagree, it is bright, my b&w 706 S2 @100+dB sounds much warmer than BR03 at 85db. If you look at the graph D225 even have slightly more forward character than BR03, FYI, my recording is only about 65% of actual sound quality. Have you listened to Denon PMA-SX11? If not then stop judging the product without actual experience, I’m sharing my experience with honest advice, BR03 not worth the money it’s just contract manufacturer cheap product.
@wiebl5266
@wiebl5266 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the review. Your dedication to the sound demo... is so valuable. I'm wondering what would you recommend - that you think performs better than the wharfedale d225 at around that price range? thank you for making time for me.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
It's very hard to beat in terms of price to performance, you just need to pair them with right components to get the best out of them, thanks
@wiebl5266
@wiebl5266 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar and what kind of components does it sound good?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Powerful Class D amp or Hight current Class AB amp will bring the best out from them, thanks
@benjaminqilafku5714
@benjaminqilafku5714 4 жыл бұрын
OT. Some albums off the beaten path. 1 Huun-Huur-Tu - Orphan's Lament 2 These Trails - These Trails - 1973 3 Bonnie Dobson Good Morning Rain 4 Amadou & Mariam Dimanche a Bamako 5 John Renbourn...Sir John Alot 6 Johnny Lytle The Loop 7 Harvey Mandel - Cristo Redentor 8 Vince Guaraldi Trio A Charlie Brown Christmas 9 Ry Cooder & Vishwa Mohan Bhatt - A Meeting by the River 10 The Pentangle The Pentangle I have a habit of listening my music through iem from my DAP when I take my usual afternoon nap. There are about 6000 albums in my 2 TB music library so some time I listen to albums I never listen before. Twice it happened to me to wake up to the omg what a treat, refering to albums 6 and 7.Enjoy your music not your gear.
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparrsion ! Stand came in today , Monoprice was quick , going to set mine up like you did , again thanks for the video ! How does the jbl 530s compare ? I love them and the 580s are killer very well phase alighned for a total of 4× 6.5 inch woofers 😆
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
530 have better stereo image than BR03 for me, thanks
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar thank you , your doing a great job really enjoy the channel !
@redforrori
@redforrori 4 жыл бұрын
Do do you think the extra money is worth it for the Wharfedale Reva 2 still over the D225? Thank you :)
@Slickman2006
@Slickman2006 3 жыл бұрын
What about the Triangle EZ line?
@marcosr2
@marcosr2 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently using a Pioneer SB22-LR with an Allo Volt+D amp and the Topping E30 DAC, although everyone says the Pioneer SB22-LR is neutral for warm, the sound I have in this setup is very cold and bright, unpleasant, if I include the Wharfedale Diamond 225 instead, will I notice improvement? I need more depth, warmth and body to match this dac and this amp (which are neutral.) In your experience what do you think?
@CinemaDemocratica
@CinemaDemocratica 2 ай бұрын
Did you mention the manufacturer and model of your stands in this video?
@taher3mg
@taher3mg 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the helpful honest comparison, I would like to know about Wharfedale EVO 4.2 in comparison with the above speakers in terms of sound stage and highs, did you try them? I can see that you appreciate speakers that have great extended high end sound (me too), evo 4.2 seams to me a ready combination of diamond 225 &Aperion tweeters in one, It will be interesting if you reviewed the EVO 4.2
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
I’m going to review it soon, thanks
@taher3mg
@taher3mg 4 жыл бұрын
Tharbamar Thank you ... great news
@christianreyes409
@christianreyes409 Ай бұрын
Wharfdales were tested and measured, flat frequency response with grill off . Whatever you play on them is will be what’s on the recording, no coloration or enhancements like the other speakers.
@cybergod77
@cybergod77 4 жыл бұрын
Triangle is better in terms of detail (focus on the rattle sound) and sub-bass (11:12-35). Thks for the demo Pls demo the triangle Titus EZ and Comète EZ, thks
@trungvang417
@trungvang417 4 жыл бұрын
I concur. Triangle has better detail
@flrn6233
@flrn6233 4 жыл бұрын
I heard the same
@edp6364
@edp6364 4 жыл бұрын
Comète EZ please
@AmbientWanderer
@AmbientWanderer 4 жыл бұрын
I also heard the same. The drums sounded much more realistic on the Triangles.
@MrRajnambiar
@MrRajnambiar 4 жыл бұрын
Diamond 225 vs Klipsch RP600 - can we hope of a similar comparison?
@geoemm
@geoemm 4 жыл бұрын
Both of them are 400€ in eu. But for 50€ more I would go with Klipsch
@johnlong9862
@johnlong9862 4 жыл бұрын
👍 a good sound clip comparison is way better than a thousand words.
@gnd144
@gnd144 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree.
@beefbottom
@beefbottom 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. What about compared to Elac b6.2.
@AmbientWanderer
@AmbientWanderer 4 жыл бұрын
They are well over rated in my opinion .to me they sounded extremely dull.
@BogdanDorianC
@BogdanDorianC 4 жыл бұрын
Diamond 225 have made an amazing impression with you, Tharbamar, right? I can get them in my country at about 200USD/180EUR. I am afraid, however, they will not match my expectations in terms of highs. They seem to be really laid back and warm sounding. Am I right?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
It will be depending on paring components but if you are after highs like from B&W speakers, may not work for you.
@BogdanDorianC
@BogdanDorianC 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar Yes I actually love B&W when it comes to highs. Thank you for your answer.
@RainbowCharade
@RainbowCharade 4 жыл бұрын
ok...where do Debut 6.2s fit please??!
@toddhupp
@toddhupp 3 жыл бұрын
interested in you opinion on ML 35
@wiebl5266
@wiebl5266 4 жыл бұрын
Tharbama, thank YOU. Do you think it pairs well with a more cheerful, warm or neutral amp? And when you say high current you mean 140 wpc? I'm wondering do you have any experience with the Wharfedale 11.2, the specs looks the same, would you still go for D225?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry it’s not about Watts, I meant good power supply is a must for sound quality, try something from Marantz PM Series etc., Neutral with a little warmer side of sound signature amps pair well with many different speakers. To be honest I have no experience with 11.2 to give you answer on that, if you just want to enjoy your music I would suggest Denton 80th speakers, which I like the most in Wharfedale two way bookshelf speakers. Thanks
@wiebl5266
@wiebl5266 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I appreciate your honesty and straight talk.
@sickshotshow
@sickshotshow 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! I love your channel and your reviews! I actually bought the Wharfedale Denton 80th because of your comparison with Kef LS50. How do the Wharfedale Diamond 225 compares with the Denton 80th? Thanks
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Denton 80th is more refined and better sounding speaker for me, thanks
@sickshotshow
@sickshotshow 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar thank you very much for your opinion! All the best!
@boubuko
@boubuko 11 ай бұрын
listening the video, it seems the warefedale over interprating the bass medium! The triangle are clear with a certain limitation, but very clear and clean.
@gnd144
@gnd144 4 жыл бұрын
Thank-you for your in depth comparison review. Q:Tharbamar, what would you choose PSB P-5 or Wharfedale 225? Thanks again Sir.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
D225 have better midrange and deeper Bass, P5 have top to bottom good balanced neutral sound. Both speakers do not have bright sound signature, which is why I like them both, thanks
@gnd144
@gnd144 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar Thank-you for responding, much appreciated.
@mykeldg
@mykeldg 4 жыл бұрын
D225 are really great bang for the buck speakers. I actually prefer the diamond 225 even over the newer more advanced and more expensive wharfedale evos. Ive had both.
@piotrk.7073
@piotrk.7073 4 жыл бұрын
It seems that We have to hurry up because I can't find D225 ..it looks like they stopped producing these speakers?🤔😱
@overnightdelivery
@overnightdelivery Жыл бұрын
@@piotrk.7073 I just ordered a Diamond 225 yesterday off of Amazon
@Nicnackity
@Nicnackity 4 жыл бұрын
Can def tell difference wd225 deeper more dramatic.
@reinhartfrais8549
@reinhartfrais8549 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Thank you for your great revews . I am looking for a bookshelf speaker up to 2000us. Very Musikal i listen for 4 to 6 houers'no sharp highs sweet highs 'great sweat mids for vocals, bass is not so important .i dont like analytical listening my music is classic chamber music piano vokals guitars aswell as jazz. Thank you for your help Reinhart
@lzytek
@lzytek 3 жыл бұрын
In another recent br3 review, the reviewer says br3 is bad at mid range and higher. Since both speakers in your review show similar performance at mid range and higher, does that mean both are bad?
@fraula1
@fraula1 4 жыл бұрын
I so much prefer the Triangle BR3. I had the wharfedale 225 for a year but they miss transparency and dynamic.
@ManuelMedellin.
@ManuelMedellin. Жыл бұрын
Yea Wharfedale gets good only at the Evo series, and excellent in the Elysians
@makarhomenko6394
@makarhomenko6394 4 жыл бұрын
Triangle Borea BR03 VS Klipsch rp600m please!
@higobatman
@higobatman 4 жыл бұрын
Please! Testa as Elac Reference DBR-62.
@skeletronxxprime6277
@skeletronxxprime6277 4 жыл бұрын
What about do review xtz spirit 4 ?
@jiancongwang1268
@jiancongwang1268 3 жыл бұрын
What's a good amp to pair with the broke?
@CheliOS_1
@CheliOS_1 4 жыл бұрын
Hy people, who know... Warfdale 225 and Marantz PM-52 , is good combination? Thanks (My sistem)
@Nicnackity
@Nicnackity 4 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to compare to Q3030i
@panblue43
@panblue43 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! I always prefer wharfedales in the budget and mid price range. They made always "strong in bass range" loudspeakers. I wrote about this in the borea introducing video - french loudspeakers not strong in bass. I loved my wharfedale diamond 10.2 - it had a lot of bass-because of 6,5" kevlar woofer and relative big loudspeaker housing.But sometimes it was not clear, on some bass freqs it lifted rough, not that precise, tight and soft bass as the upper class loudspeakers. After a time it confused me so sold.
@ManuelMedellin.
@ManuelMedellin. Жыл бұрын
Borea Br09 have Killer bass, 3 x 6.25" Fibreglass Woofers, the Wharfedale Evo 4.4 only has 2 Woofers made of Kevlar, Wharfedale Bass can't compete except the High End Elysian line
@burghelvasile3313
@burghelvasile3313 4 жыл бұрын
Dali oberon 3 vs Triangle borea br 03? Amp Marantz pm 6006. Pop music, dance, rock ballads. Thank you.
@timovanderkeijl1439
@timovanderkeijl1439 3 жыл бұрын
Tried them both, found the triangles have a bit more soundstage(even bigger than the already big stage of the oberons) and are more engaging. Oberons have a bit deeper base in my experience. In the end i returned the oberons en went with the triangles.
@jacobfields5623
@jacobfields5623 3 жыл бұрын
Little confused on your frequency response graphs. Why are you only displaying data up to 200hz?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong graph was used in this video. Thanks
@hifihobby1331
@hifihobby1331 4 жыл бұрын
To me the Triangles have better dynamic and tonality of drums is more realistic. The Wharfdales can produce deeper bass but boom-my and muddy.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
Please remember you are only listening to about 65% of actual sound quality with my recording and KZbin compression, thanks
@AmbientWanderer
@AmbientWanderer 4 жыл бұрын
HiFi Hobby i totally agree.
@UKTonyMagill
@UKTonyMagill 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar you're just making excuses because nearly everyone disagrees with you.
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 4 жыл бұрын
I've noticed this is a consistent description of the Triangles and ELAC vs others that have deeper bass. There's more control and, more importantly, the tonality is impressive.
@AbsoluteFidelity
@AbsoluteFidelity 3 жыл бұрын
@@UKTonyMagill why should he be making excuses to defend HIS opinion? If you dont like his opinions, gtfo and make your own damn channel.
@llysender
@llysender 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the dimond 225 reminds me alot of the hd650 down to the 3 blob effect and the warm muddy lack of clearity and dark. Maybe simpler jazz and lazy rock would be better to show the strengths of the dimond 225 over the epic soundtrack which favours the BR03 for its control imaging and layering.
@charleyweinhardt
@charleyweinhardt 6 ай бұрын
3:17 I'm thinking these speakers being so similar with there ups and downs are in indication test setup is a factor in the results. those are huge resonance dips you got there...
@MrRajnambiar
@MrRajnambiar 4 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best comparison videos out here. I check the comments daily to see if anyone has asked which the test track is. No luck so far -( Great audio for the testing. The celios and the drums and the bass drops. What track is this sir?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 4 жыл бұрын
I have the track name in the video, thanks