What's better, the qualifier or Colour warper for skin tones in DaVinci Resolve

[@GreenGoatProductions]

What one are you using, the colour warper or the qualifier?

[@user-cl5yu5rb5o]

Rarely if ever the qualifier

[@udememikop4456]

I love this. This tutorial has really helped me. Thank you, sir

[@GreenGoatProductions]

Glad to hear. Cheers for watching

[@ausdoug974]

Very interesting video as always. I really enjoy watching your videos and learn a lot from them. Thanks for creating this one for us.

[@GreenGoatProductions]

No worries at all. Cheers for watching, if I didn't get comments like these id probably stop making them.

[@ausdoug974]

Yes, I noticed at the end of your video that you said that you don't have a lot of time. We're always glad to learn from you, but real life takes priority over making these videos. Hopefully you enjoy making them. You don't owe us anything, so there's no pressure to make them if you're flat-chat. I haven't used the colour warper because it looks very intimidating. However, your explanation was quite clear, so I'll spend some time learning to use it. As you said, qualifying is time consuming, so the colour warper looks like a better alternative. The new colour slicer has a specific skin tone option, so I'll look into that one as well. Thanks again.

[@GreenGoatProductions]

@ausdoug974 it can be quite time consuming, but it's ok. I try and keep it balanced with my job. Cheers for the comment

[@paehairakirecords9756]

Very nice!

[@GreenGoatProductions]

Cheers

[@linus.olofssonn]

I prioritize skintones over everything else in color corrextion so I just offset everything until the skintones are good. (Ofc if it ruins the image I wont but it usually looks good)

[@GreenGoatProductions]

Completely agree. Skin tones are the most important aspect in any scene. A good balance will usually put your skin tones in a good spot

[@imiy]

What about stylized grades, ie matrix green world?

[@linus.olofssonn]

@@imiy color correction and colorgrading are different things. First you make sure all the colors look right and are corrected. Say the skintones in this case. Then once everything looks like it should, then you can go on stylizing the image by making it green like the matrix and all.. it's two different steps that often get mixed up.

[@GreenGoatProductions]

Linus has a great point. Correction first, grading second. If you balance your images first. Then you have an even starting point to be able to match exposure etc. then you'd go stylised. The Matrix still has good looking skin tones.

[@koushikbhattacharya832]

100%...u grade should be around ur skin tone

[@cloudboy2855]

Nice one. Great insight

[@GreenGoatProductions]

Thanks mate. Not something I use all the time, only in a pinch

[@yorkunt]

How about good old offset? Just balance the image for the skin tone and deal with other stuff later.

[@GreenGoatProductions]

Totally agree. The best method for skin tones is a solid balance at the start. Always balance for your skin, they're the most important in any scene. Great comment 🤟

[@fatcat-oq5rd]

color warper is far superior to the qualifier

[@GreenGoatProductions]

I agree

[@2424rocket]

Well, I certainly don’t agree with you. You have some good points, but I can use either one and get the exact same results. You were easily favoring the color warper and you did a better job, but I can do just as good a job as you did using either the color warper or The qualifier. Matter fact, most professional color graders tend to go for the qualifier. Like I said, I think they’re equal and you can do just as good a job with either one. Also with the color warper what if she’s in motion and she walks into a red room. You’re screwed . with the qualifier, She can walk into a red room and the red of the room will not be affected.

[@GreenGoatProductions]

That's ok, you don't have to. I have my problems with the qualifier, so maybe I favoured the warper more. In terms of walking around, in this scenario you would be using a power window to track your subject. That being said, it does get tricky when those skin tones start matching walls. My plan of attack is generally to balance for the skin tones at the start and then go from there. Sometimes though we need a little help. Cheers for the comment, I appreciate your thoughts.

[@JimRobinson-colors]

I disagree that most professional colorists use the qualifier. I consult and deal with pro colorists daily. Qualifier as mentioned takes more time than most colorists are able to give when there are 400 clips to grade over a few days, the qualifier will create other problems not mentioned here that are fixable, but take more time to inspect each frame for qualifier noise from luminance and hue changing from frame to frame. It is contained with the power window and the window can be tracked, but still needs to be pixel peeped - I have been burned on this when a client once asked what that dancing noise was in a grade. Upon inspection, it was the qualifier basically changing as a light was crossing the person ( i missed it ). There are some very famous colorist friends of mine ( company 3 ) that rarely use any qualifiers for skin. But they may use them elsewhere. The logic is that - the most important thing in a frame is the subject - and the subject is almost always a person. So your viewer, should be looking there and skin being a memory item in a grade - anything off is like a neon light to the viewer. So a lot of pros will have their look luts or DCTLs ( the look ) on, and then in the first few nodes ( balance and contrast , temp. etc. ) nail the skintones first without any qualification on the skin. Most DPs light and monitor for the same thing. So if the photography and lighting is done correctly - the skin will be close. Then scrutinize the rest of the frame for adjustments and if need be, do qualifications -( i.e. If a cloud up in the corner of the frame is slightly off and you qualify that and fix it) If people are noticing that, then you're not doing your job as the colorist - especially on a 60 foot screen. My personal opinion is that if the skin is off - the balance might be off - most cameras are designed around skin tone and chosen for the way they capture skin tone. I go to color and exposure for the image by first getting it correct for the subject. And the subject is where I want people to look - get that right, then worry about everything else. On set and in post - everybody's job is to push the story to the viewer and the subject is how it's done - from script to final grade.

[@GreenGoatProductions]

@@JimRobinson-colors I agree with balancing your image to perfect skin tones is the best solution. The person on the screen is the most important thing that the viewer is looking at. The reason why I did use the qualifier/ colour warper for this image was because the LUT (which I fixed) was having some funky results. It was also a good chance to go over some skin tone adjustments on KZbin and see how people deal it themselves with their adjustments. I do use the qualifier, but like you say for other things that aren't the skin. You can hide your adjustments better when you're not focusing on the skin. Unfortunately sometimes when doing a qualification on the screen, it get have artifacts or not blend properly. But saying all that, if, a colourist finds using a qualifier works best for them, then who am I to disagree with them. Cheers for the comment and watching

[@AlexanderMarshallI]

Incredible video mate, consider me a subscriber!

[@GreenGoatProductions]

Cheers mate, appreciate it

[@butterdogjap]

Great video 🎉 the colour warper is very under used.

[@GreenGoatProductions]

I find it much easier and get better results than the qualifier