What's going on with this new Silver Surfer?

[@Mando44646]

my main concern with the FF being from another universe is regarding Doom. Unless *their* Doom is also in this movie and *also* hops into the MCU, then we would have an MCU Doom with no history with Reed or the others. And that relationship is core to Doom's history

[@milkiassamuel780]

That is fair and I have had concerns about how the MCU is going to handle Doctor Doom in the MCU especially the fact that he's Marvel's greatest villain for a good reason and Doom has had poor adaptations of the character in every live action movie. This is the MCU'S chance to truly get Doctor Doom right and however they bring him into the MCU I just deeply hope they get his character, origin and rivalry with Reed right to truly make him a great, nuanced and complex villain that with so much potential to be bigger than Thanos

[@thesausageman5388]

What if the Fantastic Four’s universe is destroyed, and their Doom hops over? Or, you know, it’s not completely out of character for Doom to hop universes just out of rivalry with Reed

[@DRob70]

Don't get your hopes up too high for Doom. He's going to get the same treatment in the MCU that Zemo, The Red Skull, Taskmaster, Namor got. All shadows of the comic versions.

[@thesausageman5388]

@@DRob70 disagree. He’ll get a similar treatment Thanos got. A heavily altered version of the character, but still a good reflection of it and an amazing villain, just removing some of the stuff which doesn’t fit the story

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@thesausageman5388 Doom is THE Marvel villain he's gonna be around for much longer than Thanos I think a early 30s actor should be casted as Doom and he should introduced as Viktor Von Doom build him up as a friend of Reed's something happens between them he has his accident goes to Tibert to learn from monks and go from their The Batman begins origin would of been my choice to go with on how origin just flashbacks

[@maskedman5657]

I see a Critical Drinker rant coming in the distant future

[@l8studios_]

These woke feminist Disney pedos are trying to turn the kids trans and gay by having A WOMAN IN A MOVIE!!!! I’m gonna pretend to care about the comics when I’m completely missing that this character comes from there and we should blame woke feminists Brie Larson and Kathleen Kennedy for everything bad that has ever happened in cinema history!!!!! He can have this script if he wants I think it fits right in

[@Timewarpiaman]

@@GrandeTheftDesperado Nobody who matters

[@braninstudios402]

Ofc that ja-brony would

[@jamesobrien4993]

If critical drinker's dentist was a woman he'd rant about it.

[@braninstudios402]

@@jamesobrien4993 🤣🤣

[@hollandscottthomas]

Lol I was literally typing "I think they're going to use the alt-universe (Shalla-Bal) Silver Surfer switch out to Norrin-Rad as the reveal that they've crossed into the mainline MCU" as you said it😂

[@NecromancyLabz]

Watching the Silver Surfer cartoon as a kid prepared me for the sadness and depression of being an adult.

[@strangebake]

I think they are going to fail to stop Galactus in their universe. They are somehow going to escape to 616 and need to adapt to the world. Then down the road when the traditional surfer arrives they will automatically know the danger that he heralds. Reed will have to overcome his failure.

[@RickReasonnz]

Keep seeing this idea, and it's growing on me. Enough with the heroes always winning, lets have a movie where they lose, and overcome in the next installment, a la Infinity War and Endgame.

[@shippendales8543]

I agree

[@shippendales8543]

​@@RickReasonnzI think Galactus is an Avengers level threat so building him up as such can work

[@PlatyNews]

I think saying she is Shalla Bal means there is a big chance that Galactus will have a feast in the middle or the end of this movie

[@KatieJaz]

I would commit very heinous crimes to get LeKeith Stanfield to be Silver Surfer. He said he thought it was going to be him as Norrin in a now deleted ig post

[@marcelo-ramos]

People think he leaked the plan for the 616 SS.

[@andrewshandle]

Which may have completely f'd up his chances given it's very likely the "MCU 616" universe will have a male SS. Dude jumped right on Social Media complaining rather than calling his agent first.

[@andrewlacosse2096]

GD what a good idea though... Stanfield steals almost every role he is in!

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@andrewlacosse2096 he's my choice for him just watch his role in "Get out"

[@andrewlacosse2096]

@@Chuck_EL Yeah, must-watch movie, so good. I love him in Atlanta. Hard not to root for him.

[@DanKirkwoodJr]

Just a loose idea... maybe Shalla-Bal as Silver Surfer escapes that universe in the end with the FF4 and is free, they meet Norin Rad through their cosmic connection, in the 616 universe and he gets the idea that he will turn on the 616 Galactus, and/or keep this Earth safe in the future. She leaves saying, "if you need me, you know where to find me." She could take on a new name as well. :)

[@julianxamo7835]

Silver Surfer by Slott and the Allreds is amazing, I really recommend it to anyone

[@theultimateartist4153]

Its in my top 10 comics of all time

[@Timewarpiaman]

What should happen is Galactus wins before the FF can convince Shalla-Bal to turn on Galactus forcing them to abandon the universe for the MCU, there Reed discovers that Galactus is set to come and destroy the MCU's Earth and plans to fight him for a sort of Round 2 taking elements from Fantastic Four: Life Story. Also it turns out curveball because it's a different universe Shalla's husband Norrin Radd is the Silver Surfer in this universe so maybe they convince Norrin to turn on Galactus using the memory of his wife, maybe they could even meet in Secret Wars. EDIT: I just want to point out that I typed this out at the start of the vid to see if my ideas lined up with Nando's.

[@legendswarble2845]

I still think LaKeith Stanfield is the perfect pick for Norrin Radd. I hope they pick him eventually alongside this version of Shalla Bal

[@matthewsosa5562]

I highly recommend watching the assistant with Julia Garner! Made me really love her as an actor and can’t wait to see her in more stuff

[@wilkmarton]

Keanu played Klaatu in The Day the Earth Stood Still. He was the herald of a giant alien death cloud. That was the year after Rise of the Silver Surfer. Having Keanu in the role would give me PTSD, I'm pretty sure.

[@kadegetslaid634]

Honestly im kinda disappointed and confused, like i love norrin so im just wondering what they wanna do with silver surfer thats different from norrin, still hoping for a silver surfer solo project

[@SpyJamz]

We're not sure but I think this is a good thing. If this F4 takes place in another universe and they are using the female version of Silver Surfer, then that is almost a soft confirmation that the MCU main version will be the male silver surfer people want.

[@seansolo5318]

@@SpyJamzhow is anyone coming to this conclusion. Genuinely, where are you finding the hope to believe that we will still get Norrin. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is it. And if it Is it, if this is the only surfer we get, how will that make you feel

[@seansolo5318]

@@SpyJamzdon’t take that as me attacking you I’m genuinely curious. Your hope is yours I just want to understand where that is coming from

[@Boatanga]

⁠@@seansolo5318 as a lifelong silver surfer fan. If this is all we got of the character, I would be truly heartbroken. I really hope we get to see Norrin and the fact that the fantastic 4’s first introduction to Galactus and the silver surfer isn’t going to be him is really disappointing to me

[@prathapkutty7407]

Anya would've been perfect as shalla bal, especially with that husky voice. Julia has an annoying high pitched shrilly voice which can get pretty annoying.

[@peacetotheworld5051]

Considering Fantastic 4 is gonna take place in a different universe, having a different take and then saving Norin for the main MCU makes sense

[@funkysam1345]

Again, there is no FF in the MCU. it's gonna be in a different universe. And this is no variant. Well technically, in a parallel reality of 616 in the comics, we've had shalla bal

[@deadpoolvariant]

@@funkysam1345there is one that strange talked about in the multiverse of madness. “Didn’t you guys chart the 60s?”

[@funkysam1345]

@@deadpoolvariant which is what my theory has been that they originally did belong MCU 616. Then, went ona space mission entered negative zone and then boom, entered new universe. Where I have a young howard stark and young hank pym. And then by the end of the movie, again back to 616/19999999

[@deadpoolvariant]

@@funkysam1345 I agree but that would imply that the other universe doesn’t have a F4 not the 616. Bc what happened to that universes F4?

[@funkysam1345]

@@deadpoolvariant I mean honestly, if this theory is true don't even know whether that universe has any super heroes yet. That'll be an interesting question to look out for. Is FF the only super people in this universe? Which honestly kinda seems unlikely given that Galactus is there. So guess we'll have to wait for more info. At this point , I don't have sufficient information to conclude anything

[@solvseus]

Actually, in the original he was just Galactus' herald. The FF had to teach him to actually care about something. That was Kirby's intent. When he left, Stan Lee and someone else came up with the backstory, and he had just become kinda desensitized with hinted memory loss.

[@ProjektTaku]

I love how the Silver Surfer show did it, his memories were locked away so he could be the perfect Herald, then once he awakened them he turned on Galactus, now forced to make up for all the wrongs he did as the Silver Surfer.

[@diefty94]

My guess is that the F4 won't crossover to the 616 until Secret Wars when the multiverse is destroyed and remade with an Earth that has andwill always have had the F4 and mutants in it's history. Kind of how after Hickman's Secret Wars the main Earth now has/always had black Nick Fury, Miles Morales and other Ultimate Universe stuff.

[@pjlusk7774]

I dunno, I feel like the simplest explanation is that this version of Shalla Bal just is Norrin Radd. In that universe, she's the one to go to Galactus and offer to become his herald, not Norrin.

[@pjlusk7774]

One upshot of making Silver Surfer into a girl is that it make it easier for her to be a love interest for Johnny or, more likely, Ben. They could pretty efficiently transfer the relationship Alicia Masters usually has with the Surfer onto The Thing. One less character to deal with.

[@goodman4966]

I don't understand this potentially big outcry we literally have no major information like not a trailer or anything other than tidbits of information that we can expect from the film I'm going to wait until the product is fully out to assess what if it's good or not.

[@MonkeykingJack]

More people need to be like this wait for more info before you cry thanks man

[@goodman4966]

@@MonkeykingJack thank you for the positive reply

[@theultimateartist4153]

Na bro, just stick to the books why did they make her a woman? LOL this is going to bomb like Captain Marvel 2

[@basicsimp8798]

The MCU FF4 is initial set in an alternate universe, I dont see why some people will cry about it being different. She even appears in the comics. Just ignore the Antisjw garbage. Period. They make every fandom toxic.

[@ProjektTaku]

I know, but it is a kind of convoluted away to get to the Silver Surfer. Norrin Radd is an extremely interesting character, and I'd hate for them to throw him away and give his Herald title and design to his girlfriend, especially since people have been waiting for the SS to get his dues since the second FF movie. Its easily understandable why people would be upset, although its best to wait until more info is revealed before making a judgement.

[@funkysam1345]

Yes I think that's the point. Gender swapping and switching roles seem very similar unless we go back to the source material. If they had particularly invented a female silver surfer out of thin air specifically for the movie, then it would have been odd. But she Exists in comics. The question is, is her origin story the exact same as Radd? Or is there something different to her personal lore? Is Radd crucial to her origin story? If yes, then they might be introducing him also

[@haphazardpanda5364]

My take is that they might do them both as Silver Surfers, as per one of those comics mentioned. Could be fun to have Norrin be more sympathetic towards Galactus' victims, while Shalla is more committed to Galactus' quest. Bit of good cop, bad cop. Idk, could be fun.

[@JamesLawner]

That does sound interesting and fun!

[@retrospectrum]

I love alternate versions of characters. Especially since Silver Surfer has already appeared on film (and was the only thing I enjoyed about FF2).

[@HorseJoint]

“Lakeith” woulda been such a Unique a different choice man. Goddamnit. I’m still happy with the choice though.

[@Chuck_EL]

He's my choice for Norrin /Silver Surfer His role in "Get out" is literally How Norrin acts until hes taken out of his "Herald" trance from Galactus You can see his robotic stance until Reed snaps him out and he freaks out just like his character did with Chris

[@ziljin]

The news seems unsure if she is playing Shalla Bal or Silver Surfer

[@mathieuleader8601]

I hope to see other Herald's get their time in the spotlight if F4 is successful like the Fallen One or Fire Lord.

[@matthewahler8662]

Pedro is going to be the Maker.

[@Tormalima]

There's no reason to get upset or boycott anything etc cuz it's not the version that's familiar. All you have to do is consume media that vibes with you. And don't if you don't. At the end of the day the companies that produce this media do it for profit. And they are looking to maximize. So just don't buy what you don't like. And if other people do buy, then this isn't for you.

[@gurugru5958]

Dang, I saw the cartoon Silver Surfer show. I liked Norrin Radd and his story.

[@vikramb183]

Ooh, I’ve never heard of Earth X, I should check that out!

[@LuisMedina1]

If they're gonna do a Norrin-Rad that's close to Julia Garner's age, I propose Lakeith Stanfield. Guy's very talented and can do calm, zen and philosophical. Also he has a very good deep voice. He'd be terrific imo.

[@Ggggg-m2y]

I think Dev Patel would make a fantastic Norrin Raad. He also has experience with Ralph Ineson who’s playing Galactus so I think that would be cool.

[@RronKarahoda]

My out of pocket choice for Silver Surfer has been, and always will be Steve Buscemi. Not for any good reason mind you, I just want him to do that. I'm also still holding out for a Burn Gorman Namor, but I like the new direction with him, so here's hoping this casting pick is similarly intriguing!

[@browneyedgirl26]

I always thought Julia Garner would be the perfect casting for Boom Boom from the X-FORCE.

[@SIMON_SAYS_SO]

Anya Taylor Joy needs to return as Magik in the Midnight Suns.

[@mercurywoodrose]

Her Figure means we won’t have an embarrassment with a skin tight silver coating

[@micahfisher6125]

I was initially skeptical, and a bit upset, by this leak when it happened months ago. But honestly, I think learning yesterday that they are doing a completely different character who has the mantle, makes me totally fine with it.

[@ethankillion786]

If you are thinking about stopping Galactacus from eating your planet, you are going to have to FUCKING KILL MEEEEEEEEEE

[@polterkat]

Having watched Ozark I'm just looking forward to seeing Julia Garner play the character. She's so intense in that show I have no doubt she could crush a Silver Surfer character. Just as long as they write it the right way for her. She doesn't need to be bouncing around having a good time when she's got scowls that could crush a hole straight through a planet. Just imagining her from Ozark but all space-ified and with the stakes being planetary annihilation instead of money laundering......... I'm in. I'm sold. 1000x more than Anya Taylor Joy. Who is a perfectly fine actress but she gets plenty of headlines already. Give Julia Garner a chance to burn the whole place down. She absolutely could do it if they give her a chance. I just hope that they do

[@kyledmello6356]

With the news that Franklin Richards will appear and the chatter about Javier Bardem being cast as Galactus, I think we are getting the Earth X story with a Galactus that eats universes instead of planets.

[@2nd3rd1st]

I'm actually shocked that there was no 90s direct-to-video F4 movie where Mel Gibson dressed as an evil alien scientist Galactus upon stranding in San Francisco just picks a random actual surfer named Norrin "Rad" Duffy from California to be his herald!

[@ItsGamingFancy]

What If the fantastic 4 are from 616 but in the 60s Reed got them suck in an alternate universe in whatever event gave them their powers? Then they could have this alternate universe story but when they join 616 they're actually from there

[@FinnyThePoo]

Fantastic Four is also looking like it will be set in the 60s, so if the MCU introduces a Norrin Radd into the present day main continuity universe later, they could end up going with an older actor. Of course if they plan to have a Shalla Bal of the main universe also appear in some way, that wouldn't be great, unless they also recast Shalla for the main universe

[@IsaacThePanduh]

Nando, I love all your videos, but the background music in this video was driving me crazy. X(

[@hoorahforsnakes]

It seems pretty clear from this announcement that they are doing the into the spiderverse thing of you can tell it's another universe because this villain is a different gender

[@AndorRobotnik]

I feel like the Fantastic Four are going to lose and either 1. They all die and our FF are going to be different actors or 2. They escape their universe as Galactus devours earth and stoping Galactus from devouring the main Earth becomes Reed's obsession

[@bet0v966]

It bein Shalla is fine since she has been in SS in another universe - elseworld story. Disney knew keeping vague would get lotta buzz. They coulda gave context out the bat

[@josephupchurch7138]

Allred's art is so damn cool.

[@PfyscheStyx]

the music in the background was really distracting. the guitar(?) twang stood out too much compared to your talking

[@funkysam1345]

Ok is this supposed to be a fantastic four origin story? Or something else? And is there a difference between Shalla bal and Juno?

[@jamespope7669]

It's not a origin. They're already established.

[@funkysam1345]

@@jamespope7669 but I guess all of us wanted a proper origin story ryt? Like that's what we trusted Marvel Studios with ryt? That they'll do justice to the first family

[@themoosehoof]

@@funkysam1345no? Everyone knows there origin and it’s been adapted on screen twice. Not doing the origin doesn’t equate to not doing them justice

[@funkysam1345]

@@themoosehoof fair enough. But I'm not sure if EVERYONE knows their origin. Don't forget new audiences. But, still they have to go ahead with the storytelling in such a way, that audiences are still able to connect

[@funkysam1345]

@@themoosehoof bcoz even though it's not a typical origin story, it's still an introduction. Nd u can't just jump right in nd leave the Audience clueless

[@henriquejambu]

Julia Garner also from The Americans!

[@icedcapplord710]

I feel like Shalla being the Surfer if anything lends credence to the fact the film's in an alt universe which has been the big rumor mill about the story. If anything they might be using her to do the classic Surfer origin where it's her accepting the Power Cosmic to protect Radd and become a herald for Galactus, so when the F4 are in the main MCU by the end, maybe the implication is in this universe, it's Norrin and they won't have to retread the origin again if that's the case

[@Boatanga]

But why not just do the origin with him the the first place

[@icedcapplord710]

@@Boatanga Doesn't really matter. It's not like the gender of the character was super important in the first place as long as the story behind it stays the same. All you need to know is that it's a herald of Galactus saving their own world by telling him to eat other ones and that's basically it

[@funkysam1345]

Yes I think that's the point. Gender swapping and switching roles seem very similar unless we go back to the source material. If they had particularly invented a female silver surfer out of thin air specifically for the movie, then it would have been odd. But she Exists in comics. The question is, is her origin story the exact same as Radd? Or is there something different to her personal lore? Is Radd crucial to her origin story? If yes, then they might be introducing him also

[@ProjektTaku]

@@icedcapplord710 I mean yeah, but I do kinda like the silvery masculine design of Norrin's SS. But its also annoying to just throw away Norrin in favor of his girlfriend, as if he was never was the Silver Surfer. The best way I can describe it is like making Betty Ross the Hulk for the MCU, so I do think it matters.

[@RaginBajan]

1:33 Tyros "the Tamer" of Lanlak

[@ormoffat]

I think Anya Taylor-Joy not being the pick could be due to the uncertainty around Dune: Messiah's filming schedule.

[@tomimdawodu6808]

it would be better that the F4 with doom was actually in the mcu way back in the day but they went to space and something happened that landed them in a alternate universe and all that was kept secret by shield cause as Tony said Fury's secrets had secrets lol and they had not figured out away to get back for years until now maybe a post credit scene or something

[@FelixDeluna]

Seems like a lot of mental gymnastics to get to what will eventually be the “real” Silver Surfer. And also a somewhat antagonistic decision in regard to the long time fans that have been waiting for this character to get his due since the second Fox FF movie.

[@biguy617]

Anya Taylor Joy refused the Surfer role. That is why Julia Garner has the role.

[@SheenLuthier]

I think she will just be the regular surfer. They'll will most likely be multiversal figures, i hope

[@marcelo-ramos]

@The Nando Cut you should be proud of this comments section. Even when disagreeing, people are respectful and insightful. At least compared to other channels take on these news, where the comments section is just depressing. It shows you atract the right kind of intelligent people.

[@andrewklang809]

A female Silver Surfer? Ohhhhhhhhh, that explains that loud high-pitched noise I heard floating over the moors a couple days ago. Twas the impotent squealing of the angry manboys.

[@sewing3049]

Nando, what’s your opinion on LaKeith Stanfield saying “I thought it was going to be me”. Do you think he could still potentially be the Norrin Radd in the MCU and be a gods Silver Surfer?

[@themoosehoof]

Either he was already cast and was confused or he didn’t get it and now won’t sense he’s talked about it

[@sewing3049]

@@themoosehoof he did delete it, so if he was still cast maybe it was cleared up with him, and if he wasn’t maybe he realized he screwed himself

[@MarquisdeSuave]

I'm fine with this choice so long ad Jason Bateman gets to play Galactus

[@jerfuhrer2581]

I honestly like the name of Starglow for ShallaBal

[@admiralsnaccbarr5514]

Don't mean to be dramatic but these are the most important videos on all of The Internet

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

Honestly interested to see where this goes.

[@laverniustucker8198]

I don't get why people are hating this.

[@JoshV_TX]

It’s a little weird but it’s that lame part of the fandom so it’s not surprising. If they said her name was Norrina Radd or some shit then sure, I’ll get the outrage.

[@antarchy1]

Right? A female surfer is going to be hot.

[@kadegetslaid634]

​@@JoshV_TXsame here, I'm just confused about it

[@kadegetslaid634]

@@antarchy1 AWOOOGA

[@Geallach83]

Probably a mix of genuine Norrin Radd fans who wanted to see their favorite be in the MCU, and people who think it's "woke".

[@The_Infamous_Boogyman]

Its gonna be ok. Shalla will just shake it off

[@skjd5104]

boring comment, but the guitar sound in this vid is a bit distracting

[@chrisfriant8957]

I'm not surprised?

[@fredskull1618]

I think the casual comic reader or casual MCU watcher will have an open mind, as none of this is so precious that changes can’t be made. I always wonder if there is a majority of neurodivergence in the “die-hard fan” community because they get WAY too heated about anything resembling change.

[@The_Word_Is_The_Way]

The problem with this choice is kids will think the original Silver Surfer is Shala-Bal, not Norin Radd. The implication is the issue I have.

[@JamealTaylor]

I think we’re reading wayy too much into it, she’s thee Silver surfer of the MCU, not for the moment

[@Jake_Deagan]

“I think she’s a *solid* actor” *3 time Emmy winner…*

[@marvinj1000]

Yes she a good actor but this is marvel script nothing serious

[@andrewlacosse2096]

Maybe, I'm confusing this, but could she be Frankie Raye as the Herald? Maybe, I forgot the cartoon, but I could have swore she replaced Norrin at a time.

[@cassiusdhami9215]

At this point it feels like Marvel is trolling the trolls. 😊

[@emirozdemir-wallywest1426]

"Trolling" is funny way to say going bankrupted.

[@stelmaria-mx]

Just switching the gender for no reason doesn't make sense, especially when they could just use Frankie Raye as a replacement for Surfer and have that as the female Herald angle.

[@Mickey-1994]

The Activists at Disney can knock themselves out and keep losing money for the company.

[@joshpenner5662]

The background music was pretty distracting in this one. The guitar strum hits too hard 😂

[@acornandrew]

Yes. Listening for a bit while multitasking and had to come back to computer to see if i accidentally had another window open playing an annoying ad or something with music.

[@tjr622]

Anya I still want her as emma frost .

[@CriticsCupofficial]

This all just seems unnecessary setting the FF up in another universe and confusing for general audiences

[@krisztianunpronounceable]

If Juno, Juno

[@JohnnyTronny19841]

Variant. Hai everyone

[@Nachofavouritepodcast]

We need you to talk about the teen titans movie that was announced please I’ve been waiting and waiting…

[@elbraymundo]

I'll bet money they do what they did in Marvels and have this Surfer plops in main MCU and sees her (she thought) dead lover and is like :0 CREDITS It won't hit as hard but there it is.

[@Khail707]

Should’ve saved her for rogue

[@eduardopadilla1307]

terrax is his real name... terrax john mancuso, actually

[@killerklown94]

The possibility I hear nobody throwing out there is that Silver will be played by a woman, but the character won't be a woman.

[@erichurtado4938]

Using an existing character and repurposing them into a role they weren’t originally for is an angle I can get behind… I’m still a little concerned about how they’ll write a story where 3 men will have to fight a woman. Sue I’m not worried about, Hollywood just seems to have a problem writing male hero vs female villain.

[@xgray2012]

They do.

[@marcelo-ramos]

A woman with the power cosmic is not a woman, she's a goddess. It's just a matter of clearly establishing how overpowered she is. Nobody cared when Thor and Loki tried to fight Hela.

[@erichurtado4938]

@@marcelo-ramos I went back to make sure I didn’t misremember and I forgot that Thor gets a pretty decent stab at the start of their second fight but otherwise nothing beyond a couple blink and you miss it hits that do nothing and Loki never actually engages her (he does throw a knife once). She’s absurdly powerful, but effectively hitting the villain with pillows is not a template I would want for movies going forward. Edit: although now that I think about it a lot of recent MCU fight scenes have felt like that…

[@funkysam1345]

Ok so a few doubts. There is a subtle difference between blatant gender swapping and alternate version and completely nrw character. Does shalla bal has exact same orgin story as Radd? Is it also the case in the comics. If yes, then its an alternate version where silver surfer was female. If not, nd they have done this specifically fr the MCU, then it's swapping. If it's a completely different character who has a different origin story and Radd also has a role to play in that, then it's a completely different character. So which one do u guys think it is???

[@andrewshandle]

They have the same origin, Radd offered himself up to Galactus to save Shalla and his planet, so just have her do it instead in the FF universe. It's like Sharon Carter jumping into the machine over Steve in What If.

[@funkysam1345]

@@andrewshandle hey man thanks for replying. Ok so then there is surely a Radd In this universe also. He will probably be the prince of the plane they live on? Coz that's what shalla bal is in comics 616 ryt?

[@fredskull1618]

I think that people hold on to “canon” so tight that they become personally offended when a studio does something they don’t like. Whether it’s swapping or a different character, why is it worth losing one’s mind over?

[@andrewshandle]

@@funkysam1345 so I haven't read SS #1 in decades, but I thought she became royalty later? At the start of her story she was basically like Radd's emotional support puppy, because apparently they pair grieving people up with happy people on their planet. And she had that role for years as he was moody and studied. So there's a lot they can do with the characters to make them _both_ more interesting regardless of which one is the SS in either universe.

[@andrewshandle]

@@fredskull1618 "fans" tend to only really care in certain cases though, they'll gladly ignore 100 cases were canon is broken but then lose their minds and send death threats to Idris Elba for getting cast in a minor role in Thor claims canon was broken.

[@Frankoman64]

I know a lot of stuff in comics doesn't really make sense but that illuminatrix stuff is just makes no sense at all

[@EmperorDxD]

No tharaxx the tamer name is Tyros

[@marcelo-ramos]

Terrax. How do you know his real name, but not his herald name? 😅 jk.

[@EmperorDxD]

@@marcelo-ramos don't know 😂😂😂

[@EmperorDxD]

@@marcelo-ramos I just remember him a lot because he the only Harald of Galactus that evil that needs no brainwashing

[@mrbaldy1665]

I just assumed they were gonna have it be Shala Bal that made the deal with Galactus in the other universe that The FF comes from. Doesn't have to be more complicated than that.

[@andrewlacosse2096]

Everyone who is mad about a female casting... I want you to give me the Silver Surfer's actual name without looking it up. Also, why can't it be Frankie Raye?

[@Evoker23-lx8mb]

The problem with this casting is when people think of Silver Surfer, they’re thinking of the male version so that should be the version that we are introduced to in the MCU first. But this is Disney. If we’re getting introduced to the female version of Silver Surfer first then I highly doubt that we’ll ever get the male one. It’ll more than likely just be another Captain Mar-Vell situation all over again.

[@marcelo-ramos]

Did you really wanted to see the male version of Mar-Vell? I honestly couldn't care less they used a woman, and I say it with a full run of his comics in my shelf.

[@nielsfrederiksen6636]

Thats exactly what it is

[@Evoker23-lx8mb]

@@marcelo-ramos not the point I was making but ok

[@gamelairtim]

Dude! Lawrence Fishburne is right there!

[@marcelo-ramos]

​@@Evoker23-lx8mbwell, why mention it, if it's only going to deviate attention from your point?

[@fisherfish2842]

BRO WHEN ARE YOU GONNA TALK ABOUT THE TEEN TITANS

[@Frir10]

I just hope this won't be another forgettable villain.

[@andrewshandle]

I think they did it to show the FF are in a different universe and we'll get Radd in the mainline MCU...of course some people are predictably losing their minds over it anyway.

[@bomanes3355]

Just keep him a man💀💀💀

[@TheJaker5]

SS will be genderless guaranteed! Doesn’t matter if SS is played by a man or woman or trans. It makes SO MUCH SENSE for Marvel to do this, all things considered. There’s no reason for a herald of Galactus to be anything but genderless. I’m not only totally fine with it, but I love this idea for the character! It’s smart, it’s progressive, and it’s simple.

[@MonkeykingJack]

Yeah it would be cool if when they get on the board they just become like a shell that looks kinda human with no obvious gender that would be awesome

[@ProjektTaku]

But, the Silver Surfer isn't just the herald of Galactus. They were a person before that, its not just some shell created by Galactus, so why would they be genderless? I mean, they don't have genitalia when they transform but that's more for censorship. It doesn't really make any sense nor is it a simple idea, and I don't see how its progressive.

[@ProjektTaku]

@@MonkeykingJack I'd honestly hate that, the Surfers design is easily one of his strongest attributes so changing that in any way is a no go. I'd rather they just use the Fox FF's Silver Surfer design, or something very close.

[@shamwow416]

The one point I'd argue is I thought the Rex surviving a headshot was a pretty brilliant twist because it's pretty true to life to what often happens - head is not a good target if you want to expire your target, heart is much more effective. So it's not really a freak consequence, it's actually what could happen in real life - pretty cool detail for those of us with experience in trauma.

[@tjowo1]

i just want justice for norrin radd after fantastic four 2, i mean fishburne/doug jones did great but it was just a bad movie

[@BluishGnome]

Cool video, but that guitar strumming in the background is really annoying