What's going to be inside Stations? Dev Diary 2 | Elite Dangerous

[@danielwhite1135]

Station interiors are better to have first over ship interiors because they actually give more to do. That said, hopefully ship interiors are added soon after.

[@GhostGiraffe]

Same

[@truckerallikatuk]

Gameplay isn't all the game is about, that's the thing about Elite, it doesn't have to be hard coded gameloops for it to be fun.

[@chrisd1903]

@@truckerallikatuk i get what you are saying. But they need to Model each ship, bug fix Player movement, or even adjust the normal fps movement to be able to move in a small ship. This has to be done only once for All generic station insides. So with the saved time, they can work on actual Features while in station / on foot. Then the majority of potential buyers might have said 10-30$ for a dlc that only allows you to walk in your ship and on Planet, where you can do nothing? Better this way and when they actually make profit off the dlc they can sustain further development like ship interiors

[@truckerallikatuk]

@@chrisd1903 They said early in the development of the main game that the interior layouts were modelled. Even if that's only for a percentage of ships, it's a good start. I'd be happy with having it be just those ships in the beginning. Not everything needs a gameplay loop to be worth it.

[@davidsthubbins8691]

I really wanted to find out where the lavatory was inside my ship. Because that seems like a pretty important module.

[@Sleepless_Sam]

Its built directly in to the pilot's seat.

[@Maple-Lizard]

How do you even use the bathroom with that Remlok suit on?

[@gdwnet]

@@Maple-Lizard Carefully.

[@Beeks81]

I gotta unlock the grade 5 bathroom engineer so i can upgrade my bidet, but i was really wondering if maybe the Guardian Wiper might be better.

[@gdwnet]

@@Beeks81 Maybe you could get an engineer to create a more powerful flush?!

[@Red_the_pirate]

“I don’t want to go back to a station to change my clothes.” And that’s where interiors (at least cockpits) would come in. There would be a console of sorts where all your on-foot gear would be stored. There, you can change weapons, suits, and whatnot else before heading out. There. Gameplay. Not that hard.

[@marshalm83]

I genuinely don't understand when people say "there's no gameplay w. ship interiors".... There's SO MUCH gameplay potential!

[@57thorns]

@@marshalm83 Most of it however is routine tasks that we now use the console for. Same with ship interiors: Instead of calling someone, we have to walk to see them? That is soo 1800:s to be honest. Instead of an automatic (and for playability reasons instanteneous) ship loader we could move each box manually, making loading a 700 ton ship take an hour of intense gameplay. Compare those ideas to the outfitting hardpoints screen, where they decided to break the normal rules and show animations of every transaction. It get really old and really annoying very fast. Not to mention you have to click for slot, click for type, click for module _and_ click for purchase mode for _every_ slot during outfitting. The turnaround for a full load of cargo (if you ignore the mission board and just go commodities) is 20-30 seconds from touchdown to liftoff, most of that on the elevator. They need to be very careful that new gameplay is an improvement.

[@hawkofthereborn43]

That's the very reason why Elite sucks dick. They refuse to remove the "menue gameplay" and replace it with having to go to the place to do the thing physically instead of sitting in your cockpit. Might as well have a "Game plays itself" button while you're at it. Get rid of the menus.

[@marshalm83]

@@hawkofthereborn43 Totally agree. I'd be perfectly happy if I had to wait 5-10 mins while my cargo loads... Part of the immersion! I'd sort out my purchases, then pop to the shop for some new boots before heading back to my ship for a bit of tinkering while I wait for the cargo to finish loading. If anything, that's far more immersive than insta-loading 700 tons (which is completely immersion-breaking).

[@azariaharnold1991]

I would love to see some hover bikes come to the game and some kind of professional land/space racing of some sort.

[@GhostGiraffe]

Yes!

[@jam_herobrine1642]

Maybe not hover Bikes but something other than the SRV would be nice, Makes a propper purpose to having larger SRVs Bays othan that "2 Srvs Is useful" Cause it really isn't

[@owlie373]

@@jam_herobrine1642 And some kind of tanks for fighting missions, trucks for recovery missions, etc

[@billlemens9982]

Maybe a Buckyball Marathon: run 42,195 meters in the fastest time...

[@GhostGiraffe]

Omg this is going to be a thing!

[@spider-spectre]

I may actually start playing on Open World after Odyssey because I will actually feel like I am with other players, watching their routine, talking and meeting with VOIP, and feeling more like I am in this Sci-Fi space world. compared to now which players are really just NPCs with unpredictable movement and better flying skills. Being in a ship all the time while being able to see my character and a slight interior always made me feel like I am on a ride rather than flying a ship, stuck strapped to my seat. Like I was the ship and my character was just cargo. Hopefully they add FPS elements too, please add enemies.

[@tacticalrover6428]

This looks really good right now. Can’t wait to get on the ground

[@sky173]

I'm sure walking around ships will come in time. As long as it's popular, they'll make it happen eventually.

[@StRoRo]

but it will be something that takes years of development, people will try for a few hours and then realise adds nothing other than a limited sceptical.

[@isyma869]

@@StRoRo they should do at least walking in cockpit because they are already in game

[@StRoRo]

@@isyma869 free movement around the cockpit shouldn't be too hard to do really.

[@Red_Lion2000]

Like fixing smuggling. Oh, wait...

[@rimbaud0000]

Station interiors make so much more sense. Doing interiors for all ships would be an insane amount of work

[@ryanm6004]

You gotta admit it would be awesome though. Even a limited interior space would be awesome. I just want to be able to walk around the cockpit at a minimum.

[@MrErtwer]

They don't need to add gameplay features as broad as this, they should be populating the galaxy making it feel more alive. Even if I can personally get out of ship and walk on the surface of whichever planet I happen to be at, none of that matters if there's nothing there to do or even look at except rocks.

[@Acela2163]

While it's disappointing that we aren't getting ship interiors, I understand the want to prioritize the stations and I think it's a good thing that they're prioritizing the areas that will have actual gameplay, though we'll have to wain and see how that goes. The new settlements look very interesting, and I'm cautiously optimistic about them. And my theory for the "Dropbox Area" is that it will be a location where we pick up and drop off items for missions, similar to the cargo depot that you access when taking a transport mission in the current game.

[@raymobula]

Or as in star citizen, no? I saw a video by Turjan, where he walked around with a box. Space FedEx confirmed?

[@TRG29338]

Hopefully if we're picking up little packages to ferry around they'll be a realistic weight. I like the idea of using a small ship like a cobra for the odyssey type stuff and mine currently only has 16t cargo. That should be way more than enough for anything ground based.

[@marisinti]

I’ve waited for ship interiors since the release of Elite dangerous. You can do many things in Elite dangerous right, bounty hunting, mining, trading and exploring, and i think exploring is number one in Elite dangerous. Wouldn’t it be so great to stop your ship while exploring in the middle of space, flight assist off and get out of your seat? Relax after 100 jumps and enjoy the view. Make it possible to go to the kitchen and make tea or coffee, for the older people. Inspect the whole ship. Put on your space suit and check you ship from the outside. I mean ship interiors is also a part of mining or trading, you tired of 1 hour of traveling or mining, just hop out of your seat and repair your ship, or put your character to bed and log out for a while, when you log back again your character blinks with his eyes, he just woke up. Ofcourse station interiors is super great! But ship interiors would be a better choice, now we wait six more years for ship interiors, hell yeah! But we must not forget about the graphics update and thin atmosphere worlds we get with odyssey, this part is also huge! And after those many years seating in our seats, we can finaly rise and stand up!!!

[@TRG29338]

You could get an extra pip for a few hours after drinking a tea or coffee to reflect your heightened mental focus lol

[@marisinti]

@@TRG29338 We all know your background miss Anus, i mean Ikanus. Use that extra pip to get out of your closet.

[@RealAdderall]

Can't wait to see new space tourism episodes from this update 😍

[@NaughtyShepherd]

Ship interiors are still needed. I know some Cmdrs want to poop on the idea, “why is this necessary? When I started playing we didn’t need... blah blah blah...” As for me, I want a deeper connection with my ship. I want to see the doors open and close, I want to gawk at all the different modules and see a visible difference between a Multiweave shield generator vs a Prismatic. Cargo racks with discernible loot in them. These are the things I’m interested in, along with the stuff they’re adding. There’s only a handful of ships that have tons of options available to them. I’m sure the community has already designed most of these things already.

[@arkuos8361]

Agreed

[@fistsofsnake5475]

39 ships with tons of module combinations that they have to make working. And be interactive not be something you just look at

[@Holysnowboard]

God I feel that

[@DayOldMeat]

Walkabout in ships will be a thing at some point, as will EVA, creating the option for boardings. They've been promised since the KS days and it's just a case of doing it properly.

[@truckerallikatuk]

I want to chill with a coffee in the first class lounge of my explora-luga and watch the sun set on planets 50k LY from earth. I don't care about the shooty bit, nor the upgrading the spacesuit bit..

[@Storyteller543]

I better be able to go to a bar in a station and talk about free anacondas around new commanders

[@alratekk2631]

I'm very excited. This is gonna be sick, and ship interiors will come in time.

[@fentonwinmill]

Wish VR was supported at launch. Going to be a pain going from VR in flight to screen for when on foot.

[@SoohNabis]

you can probably disable the 3D on your Vr headset without removing it from your head! it will be like looking at a screen 5cm away which will give you a headhach xd

[@Shawn_White]

Chris Roberts sweats nervously.

[@cluelesssimmer5856]

Good. A little competition might make him rethink some stupid decisions

[@Churbas]

Eh, still nailing down the UI and UX for first person walking around isn't that unusual or surprising considering they're five months out minimum from any sort of release. I don't doubt they have SOMETHING, but I figure they're still working out the kinks and don't have something they quite want to show to the public just yet.

[@SharnLugonn]

And the best thing about Odyssey: "Safely with: Zorgon Peterson ADDER!" My favourite ship!

[@truckerallikatuk]

New SRVs and ship interiors please. I'm ambivalent about the footslog shooty bit, and I can't see there being any outposts to go explore way out here in the deep black. I definitely DO want to be able to walk around my ship, and find a good spot to chill with a coffee and watch the sun(s) rise on a world no-one else has seen.

[@TheFrantic5]

No reason ship interiors can't be added in later. It needs an innovative game play mechanic to balance leaving the cockpit of your ship while in potentially dangerous open space. Space stations on the other hand are where you can get those fun mission interactions where you negotiate with some old coot and a farm hand a ride to Alderaan.

[@boingthegoat7764]

My first thought woke watching the dev diary was "why would I want to book a trip to another planet? I own a space ship."

[@GhostGiraffe]

lol fair point!

[@Chemical_Ali]

But imagine being a new player or starting a new game and never having to buy a ship? Or only leaving for space on missions where your online buddies pick you up in theirs? If you could actually do that, it would be pretty amazing.

[@Chemical_Ali]

lol. wow. They just confirmed that you dont need to own a ship.

[@boingthegoat7764]

@@Chemical_Ali "Get in, loser, we're going bounty hunting! What's that, never down a ship before? LOL, you get the fighter then, watch out for asteroids!" You know when a friend first tried to get me into elite I was like nah...then he said you can man the guns on my ship and fly my space fighters! And I was like yea? So that actually does sound appealing :) Imagine, having to work your way up to afford a sidewinder

[@djcamp0426]

I honestly cant wait to check this out. Any plans for Laser Cops on foot?

[@GhostGiraffe]

Hey old friend! Missed you! And you bet:)

[@CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen]

@@GhostGiraffe Awesome! I miss laser cops!!!

[@aaronmathewson5522]

You have seen the interactive UI already. It’s the one on the carriers. That panel shows up in one of the station interior shots, in a group of 3 monitors arranged in a triangle.

[@ICKY427]

looks cool, but im keeping my expectations low. like my landing gear clipping through the ground on a 9g planet low. im wondering if we'll be able to call up an srv from within the station and do stuff without using a ship

[@werre2]

we need space cats for the ships.

[@GhostGiraffe]

Yes

[@ConnorG.1]

They'll have to give up on the projected consciousness thing of driving an srv, or at least I hope they will. I want to be able to get in and out of the srv and not have to drive it back to the ship to stop controlling it and then exit my ship on foot. The update is looking better and better though, I dont completely mind that ship interiors aren't included at launch as long as they will be created later

[@GhostGiraffe]

Yeah that whole thing sounds a bit weak now

[@BRUXXUS]

I'm pretty sure they're throwing out any lore/canon to do with science altogether. That taxi service worries me because they're not going to make people board a ship (no interiors), then wait for the ship get to a destination. I'm betting it's going to be straight up teleporting. Same with ship to ground and SRV to ground transitions. It's the least possible effort to develop that way. Lore and immersion be damned. I hope I'm wrong, but Frontier have given me no reason to believe they won't take the laziest and easiest way out out.

[@nebohtes]

Well, ship interiors are down the road, then? That's okay. I might have some insight on why that is, and I'm pointing fingers at the Dolphin and Krait. Past those two standouts (they're packed *really* tight), there are ships that really went off the reservation in terms of in game convention, like the Chieftan and its ilk. The Type 7 has a ridiculous amount of extra space, like it's comically empty, so the inside would just be like a huge gymnasium with catwalks looking down on a few u-haul boxes. They can do it, but unless they go arbitrary and have magic compartments for putting stuff like engines and optional internals (which would hurt the passenger game), it's a rough row to hoe. Seriously, if I was going to pick an issue that really made ship interiors very difficult, it's passenger cabins. They would have a massive effect on interior layouts and it'd be like a park game just getting the NPCs to navigate each interior unless they just warped to their module upon touching the ship, plus it'd mean that players had to wait to open hangars or cargo hatches until the bay was empty, they need to rough in conveyor systems to move cargo or fighters, fighter hangers would need to represent building a new fighter when one wasn't gonna' make it home -- and I'm just scratching the surface! I might make a video just expounding on this using my fan system for mapping out interiors, but I got Dual Universe and just started building my own ships using exactly the kind of system I wish games used for making *their* ships. Dual Universe is totally awesome.

[@marshalm83]

Your videos are amazing! How have I never seen these!

[@nebohtes]

@@marshalm83 Thanks, man! I've got a few hundred hours into a sort of narrative animated (my first cartoon!) video using the ship interiors, but I keep losing steam to work on it, and it's my big hurdle right now. Plus, I really like playing games :)

[@marshalm83]

I'd love to see one of your videos on the Type 7. Would be good to get a sense of just how comically massive it is!

[@Star-Tracker]

I don't care about walking around in ships or not... I want to be able to walk around my Fleet Carrier and show to everybody that I'm the Cap'tain on board! XD

[@Spartan086]

No matter how cool Odyssey may be, I still play Elite for its space aspect and I don’t even visit stations too often

[@xanider5098]

i wanna be able to walk on my buddies ship. be like a dude without a ship. couch hoppin from ship to ship. XD

[@mattsmechanicalssi5833]

I think what FDEV showed on the latest Dev Diary's, just made Star Citizen irrelevant. I mean, not one NPC was standing on a bench!

[@projectgoatse]

It’s a sad state of affairs that Frontier appears to have surpassed Star Citizen in terms of having functional and playable game mechanics, despite SC having the largest budget in game history, multiple dedicated development teams, and at least 2 years head start. No one wanted to see Chris Roberts succeed more than us classic space sim guys who grew up on the Wing Commander series. It’s becoming more clear every day that EA shut down Origin for good reasons.

[@Motoboo_Marine]

One thing I'd like to see that could help give some variance to the station interiors is how the controlling faction's state affects it. Like factions that have a booming economy will be nice and clean, with everything in good running order, vs a faction in a bust state or civil unrest, where the station is generally very dirty and there's broken panels and shit everywhere.

[@ToCoSo]

I cant wait to leave my ship for quite a while, I am going to just be 1st person as much as I can, exploring, salvaging and fighting. Sounds pretty good.

[@GhostGiraffe]

Same! Also feels quite cosmopolitan to zip around via apex for a while

[@sand.4520]

I'm so excited for the Odyssey Update!

[@nicolobraghini1546]

Ship Interiors are more important than we think. If you ever played Star Citizen you know that the best part about the game is walking the ladder to enter your ship, seeing all the modules, the beds, the toilet and coffee machine, walk through doors to reach the cockpit and sit on your chair to start flying. For Elite, I think that getting off the pilot seat during flight could not be necessary, since we don't have a real auto pilot (while quantum travelling in star citizen the ship travels in a straight line with no input needed from the pilot, so you're free to jump out of the seat). But they could simply make it that while landed on a planet/station you could walk inside your ship, change clothes and weapons and just...feel your ship. If that sounds useless trust me, it's not, being able to live inside your flying home is amazing

[@bedrockraptor5534]

I really hope the different suits for different roles aren't payed for with arks or something like that

[@mr-x7689]

Of course its going to. The dlc will be 40 or 50$ to have all the items in the game, and then you will be asked to pay an additional minimum of 20$ to unlock a few of them for use. Like it's already is in the game. I'm fine whit that you can earn the ARX trough playing, but the cap needs to be rized from 400 a week to atleast 4000. OR have all the prices significantly lowered.

[@martindrengenxbox360]

Now all we need is the ability to make compounds in which we can design every aspect, build structures, turrets, shipyards, motorpools for various surface vehicles. Planetary minigames like leading a raid into a cave and defeating hostile aliens, maybe end it with rushing to your ships and defeating a big mothership. Of course they'd likely have to introduce new species in the game, but this ads so much potential to the game.

[@Challenger160]

At 4:44 the cobra now has flashing landing lights

[@giantnerd14]

I would love it if there were search and rescue missions for space legs inside damaged stations. Or even better, combat missions against Thargoid ground forms inside stations under attack...

[@bashkillszombies]

4:00 - They said that our ships would all look unique too, in the kickstarter, and kept doubling down 'any time now' that it'd be a thing. But up until Horizons they'd actually removed more modules and cosmetic changes than were added. I would never ever trust the devs promises after how many hundreds if not thousands they've just broken arbitrarily and acted like you're crazy if you ask if that's ever coming in.

[@mathew4485]

The only reason I want ship interiors is for when I'm out in the black and I can pretend to make a cup of coffee before getting lost even more

[@Krooksbane]

To continue the Skyrim jokes. What if when you transfer from ship to first-person the screen goes blank, and then you hear “ahhh your finally awake”

[@roadsweeper1]

But unfortunately, while you were sleeping, an oxygen tank came loose from the wall and you took a fixing bolt to the knee....

[@bobthe28th17]

Imagine walking around a station in vr

[@kaizaki9148]

I'm glad this video is a positive about what frontier are doing, so many people are beyond disappointed. I wish we could walk around ships but maybe that will come at another point, station interiors will still be awesome.

[@CARLXGAMING]

I know everyone wants ship interiors, and that would be awesome, but anyone here who follows Star Citizen can tell you its not as simple as just taking the existing ship model and stuffing an interior in it. Most of these ship were never designed to have an interior so space for it was never considered. Ships in SC are designed with the interior in mind and in many cases it directly effects how the exterior looks when completed. A number of other mechanics need to be built that right now don't even exist in the game like pressurization, atmospheric zones, gravity and no gravity planes. Also remember there are 38 ships that would need overhauled to except interiors. That will take some time if they choose to actually do it.

[@RudolfKlusal]

Cool would be if I may be "the passenger" on the passenger mission list ;) E.g. I would like to get to Colonia, I don't have a problem to pay 20 MCr to someone to do so, so... :-D

[@GhostGiraffe]

Some commanders are actually setting up to do that with fleet carriers

[@RudolfKlusal]

@@GhostGiraffe Cool! :-)

[@SharnLugonn]

@@RudolfKlusal My friend took me and a couple of other people to Colonia on his FC. He had to keep jumping for like 18 hours, not the fastest way to get there. It would really be awesome if you could book a trip on a fast and nice ship!

[@RudolfKlusal]

@@SharnLugonn You mean like in shared cockpit? That must be great :-)

[@Mrequine1]

I think making every station different will be difficult, but it's like if these station existed it much cheaper to make a station the same layout as it easier to make and engineer

[@lordwontner3936]

I think that apex travel will be a startrek style transporter beaming you to a near by station makes no sense to use a ship when you could just use your own

[@lesath7883]

I also want to walk around my Orca. And my Dolphin too. You won a sub there, commander.

[@tmo_117]

It’s about 10 mil to enter one station, and 5 mil to get out of your ship. can’t wait though. I hope you can get various equipment for ground walks that have different geographic or ground examining devices to help you learn about the planets you land on

[@cmdrblp]

Can't wait to try xeno-botany or travel between systems as a passenger, which is going to require substandard in flight entertainment and a small child kicking the back of my seat repeatedly.

[@nightwingzero8905]

I’m truly looking forward to more revelations on this good dlc, it’s looking good so far

[@TheScottShepard]

Great overview of Dev Diary 2! As a VR user, it would be especially jarring to go to a third-person perspective on planets, but the demo clips do a good job of selling 3rd person as a good experience paradigm with these environments. They talked about living planetside without a ship. What game is this? Many questions remain to be answered...

[@BuntyDave]

It's not just getting 3rd person. It's also going to be flat none VR. Boooo

[@Razgriz6464]

Nothing can be better than ship interiors

[@haydenbsiegel]

Its like a future New Mexico Simulator! lawlz! I can see this being the salt meme when release hits. I feel like the stations will be cool, but I hope they add ship interiors later on so that I can see the inside of my Beluga. I bought and primarily use that ship just so I can liberate Imperials Slaves/Slaves in style. You know like they've had a hard life being enslaved to pay off some bogus debt and deserve to some bit of luxury while being freed by the Israeli Space Agency! Plus I always imagined that the upper deck with the giant over head window was some sort of garden or atrium area just like you did with the "waterfall" and I want to see that. Maybe it is going to happen later because they want to do something like space marines where players can demobilize ships in combat and then fly over in person, breech it, and take control of the inside? That would be a bit demanding to code I'd think, but it would make great piracy gameplay. So it could be it's own season in Odyssey. Do you think we'll be allowed to swim in the little ponds inside hanger bays of the luxury class ports? That would be fun for a roughly 3 minutes and I instantly asked myself that when you panned across the interior of one. I saw that pond and was like, 'oh hey, thats right we will be able to walk around in there.... I wonder if I can swim in that little pond.' and stuff. I think the drop box place will be a new loot store probably the same model as Fortnight or something and there will be some form of area style FPS like Apex Legends integrated. I was watching some of the members of the Israeli Space Agency play Apex Legends the other day and the map they had looked very much like a future New Mexico so may that will be it? Idk, but you're 100% correct about the lounge or bar being useless outside smuggling missions etc. One thing I really want to see, actually three things, is: 1) A way to infiltrate Imperial Stations controlled by the Inquisition and the blue haired Duval to liberate slaves at the market. Like it would make setting them free at Israel Port so much easier! Right now locating Imperial shipping lanes and then ships transporting them is like super hard. It is so rare to find an NPC ship transporting them to pirate and PC ships may be more common but most people play in private. I can't blame them because griefers, but it would make it easier to like smash and grab at a station. I also hope that if they do this that they will make it so Slaves that we help make Aliyah by liberating at the Israeli Space Agency grow our system population. Thus far I have returned 19,783 Imperial and normal Slaves but Botame has the same population as it did when we took control. I suppose just abandoning/jettisoning slaves from your cargo hold into the hanger bay isn't the proper way to free them but there really isn't a mechanic for that sort of game play and being like the Elite Dangerous version of the Order of the Twin Lamps (Elder Scrolls shout out) or the Underground Rail Road is fun. 2) When stations are contested it would be cool if they turned into actual warzones. Like if a conflict is several days old and one side has a percentage of control or there is a lockdown it would be awesome to have to sneak around the station to get stuff done and not get shot or maybe we could choose a side and fight to take control. Maybe there could also be a blockade of the station by the winning side or something so if pledge (like in powerplay) then we'd have to silent run into the station to break the blockade and then once in the station be all stealthy and not get caught. I imagine then taking control would be sort of like a capture the flag style that Star Wars Battlefront had. In writing the journal of CMDR Chay'yim Ben David there were a few sections where the CMDR took the fight directly to the station or was pursued by someone in a station and had to use the airducts and engineering passages to sneak around with the help of the Kumo Crew and other less than savory types. Oh and of course stations that are under anarchy might be totally crazy! 3) Prison escapes! Again in CMDR Chay'yim Ben David's journal there was a prison break after he was captured. I had a pretty sizable bounty on my head and was killed after griefing a CG to foil the Empire's plans. This was during the Israeli Space Agency's founding and we were technically at war for independence. Since we have sort of made peace because I stepped down as leader, but I stopped playing for a few weeks (for RL reasons) and wrote it like I had been captured and imprisoned by the Inquisition since the prison was controlled by them in game. Having a way to contract my fellow CMDRs and have them storm a prison to bust me out would be so super cool. I imagine that doing a prison break would be more of an assault than taking over a regular station. Maybe the prison guards would be as tough as the special forces that get called in when you have a high enough bounty? One of our members had at one time the highest bounty in game during the 7065/3305 Israeli War for Independence and those dudes were serious. It would make for a nice little group mission quest or whatever. Like friend gets beat by the special forces when their bounty is super high and then his mates have to defeat something similar in an FPS thing to break them out of prison. Or possibly we can bust NPCs out of prisons this way. Anyway those are my ideas and takes on it. o7

[@GhostGiraffe]

Really fun ideas

[@DigThat32]

Great video, my dude. I'm a lil disappointed that it's 1st person perspective only. Cyberpunk 2077 is doing that too. How ya gonna get that perfect selfie or the cliche over the shoulder shot of you looking out into the cosmos? How is Turjan gonna get cinematic shots of his character approaching his shady contact behind the outbuildings in the settlements? They should definitely reconsider this move.

[@TNTom67890]

Pancakes or Waffles? which one will be in the game and which one in the devumpster?

[@plaernotree]

Keep rousing FRONTIER till interiors is IN...EVERYONE!

[@Samuraid77]

I'm super excited, but am worried the game play loop will not change or be enriched enough.

[@lordrefrigeratorintercoole288]

Cant wait to play this new "Space Truck Pokemon Battleroyal" game

[@axiolot5857]

This might be the thing to get me into pvp

[@benw7616]

More sense? Yes Better? No

[@thumb-ugly7518]

I wonder if we’ll get power armor. Space Ironman vs Crysis vs Masterchief vs starship troopers! And then somebody can referee the match with the power loader Ripley had in Aliens!

[@nothanks3236]

Oh my fucking God if we don't get adventures from you and Sparx with space legs we will riot. OK, well we will riot a little more than we already are. We're rioting pretty hard right now.

[@raymobula]

Walking around - I guess they might reveal it in a live stream.

[@Bunuffin]

What with VR? Will you have to take it off when on foot?

[@mrape3945]

Drop box will be an item bank for your character.

[@EliteSnowPirate]

I’d rather have the ships interior. My relationship with my ships ought to be a main facet of the game. I do feel a bit let down they’re focused on other stuff. I hope it’s good.

[@Mister_H.]

I wanna know if there’s a pocket in the back of my chair?

[@GhostGiraffe]

There is one on the sidewinder

[@gort5583]

Like you, I am disappointed about no space legs, being able to walk around my ship would have been great and very immersive particularly if able to get into an SRV or fighter. Without it how will we transition from ship to station/planet? Not sure Neil Armstrong just appeared on the surface. He had to get out the hatch, climb down a ladder then plant foot in the dirt. How is this going to happen in Odyssey without being able to walk around the ship? At a minimum, you would need some internal access, be able to get out of the seat and maybe enter an elevator or stairs and an airlock to get to the surface. Should be able to walk around the outside of the ship I guess.

[@DavidOlver]

Good job mate

[@shawndooley7778]

I was hoping to fight childhood diabetes but now I'm wondering...

[@Maple-Lizard]

I wish this game was cross platform.

[@eeka_droid]

Probably the fps mechanics will consume a lot of dev time thus postponing interiors.. But OK, as long as what we have now doesn't get messed up, im looking forward to it

[@ScalerWave]

I think we'll just have to wait and see. Hope for the best but expect FD.

[@marcusseldon9065]

To answer the question on the thumbnail: Yes, since ship interiors without proper gameplay are pointless.

[@milanondrak5564]

I want to see what happens if you start a bar room brawl.

[@slompitheoriginal3099]

I want ship interiors

[@thelionsam]

Suits will bring another customisation and engineering domain. I'm actually happy about that 🙂

[@LittleTed2]

Is Inter Astra like the car showroom?

[@GhostGiraffe]

Hmmm don’t know but maybe

[@superhusky6860]

so you don't get to sit inside of the protection of your srv

[@NS_MeatFarm]

Oh yikes! I hope they add NPCs so that you have to actively go to each PC that you're doing missions for and stores etc

[@oreste1964]

I would like to be able to physically meet my AI pilots, go for a drink together at the bar .. that would be very nice :) After a hard battle you always have to celebrate the victory or still be on the road.

[@GhostGiraffe]

Oh wow that’s something I hadn’t thought of!

[@oreste1964]

@@GhostGiraffe Sometimes the Pilots are also beautiful girls, it's not a bad idea :)

[@marshalm83]

Agh! You had me up until "Station interiors make more sense than ship interiors".... kajsdhkaLJFBALkjsbfalKJSFAKJSFBSAKJFBLKJBkjbsgjdkjdfk All I want is an engine room where I can tinker, and some quarters where I can play dress up!

[@GhostGiraffe]

Playing dress up I would be 100% behind! Maybe they have a barber at the station?!

[@tylerworrell4446]

Honestly, ship interiors would be cool, but it couldn't offer nearly as much content or freedom as leaving your ship to explore stations, bases, and planets and engage in on-foot combat. I still want to see ship interiors but I don't think people should be so upset that Frontier chose to do stations and planets first.

[@teenagestacker6063]

I don't know all I hope is that it's good, and that I can get the game soon! 😂

[@BRUXXUS]

Still sad about no ship interiors, but some of this does look interesting. One thing I'm going to be really upset with is that APEX 'taxi' service. If it's just a magical teleportation system then I'll be super disappointed. Why not allow commanders to post up transport requests? Hire another player to take them where they want to go. They could post up where they want to go, when they want to get there, and how much they're paying, just like with imaginary passengers, but... you know, real! We could still have AI transports, but allowing players to hire transport services to farther away destinations would be SO AWESOME. Imagine all the emergent gameplay that could happen. I suppose.... it would be really tough without ship interiors, though. Ugh 😔 I have a feeling this will all follow the same design philosophy since Elite came out: Infinite Potential - Ultimate Disappointment

[@Rossilaz58]

Imagine deformable terrain

[@dannypowers344]

I don't think, it's Fronter?

[@sethpeterson8261]

Personally I'd say everything they showed in the trailer is secondary to being able to walk around in our ships. I'd rather have that than a single bit of the station stuff they showed which all seems a bit pointless if not worthless in comparison.

[@k3v1n73]

I honestly understand why they ignore ship interiors right know. just think about the work needed to model and design all ships in the detail needed for First-person-gameplay. and they cant just copy stuff from ship to ship, they cant make Lakon, Core Dynamics and Guteyama ships look simlilar an example. and this wouldnt even add any gameplay by itself. internal and external repair, seeing npcs and players you fly around, etc, all of that has to be added additionally to the ships itselfs

[@EvilMerlin]

Could they copy Star Citizen any more? The benches, stairs, plants, stores, even the damn computers look the same. Holy crap. Even the star map thingy is nearly identical to what is in Star Citizen. Just do some basic browsing... even the lounges look identical right down to the chairs and countertops.

[@LadCorazon]

I'll wait to see what we'll see, but hearing that there are no ship interiors greatly diminishes my interest. I was looking forward to having my own personal space within the game, but what can you do. I'm not sure if we'll ever see our ship interiors, idk if the game even has that kind of infrastructure. I just hope its not multi crew again, a function that was novel at launch but not worth the trouble. Either way sounds like it's back to making goo goo eyes at SC.

[@MrJustinUSCM]

If we get bars, I hope I can DUI my Ship

[@soapierberet1576]

I’m getting pc soon and I might wait for this update to get it so I can try and live only off planets and not having my own ships

[@lazerwater6137]

is space tourism ever going to come back ??????????????

[@GhostGiraffe]

Yes

[@lazerwater6137]

@@GhostGiraffe THANKSSSS BE TO THE LORD

[@jaylengarren5137]

im hoping you can bye drinks at the cantine and drink them for no reason

[@GhostGiraffe]

That’s what I do IRL! Why not do it here too XD

[@jaylengarren5137]

@@GhostGiraffe lol

[@hsaurma]

I be 95% out in the Void.... landing only if I need materials....so the only thing (What I even like actual most in SC), will be Interesting for me is, walking around in my ship, and checking the Interior ( as bonus repair broken stuff...even it is force me to land and make repairs outside)...so I am not hype and can wait until a sale or get it free like now horizon.

[@sciencewizard8805]

When I played elite the game seemed cool, but so lonely. Perhaps this update will help. I just think it will be better than just using menus in your ship.