What's Good? What's Bad?! Max's Mortal Kombat 1 "Stress Test" Final Impressions

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Max gives his impressions on the recent Mortal Kombat 1 "stress test" that allowed select people to play a handful of characters and Kameos online. He discusses the things that he enjoyed about it and also his worries about some very important aspects.
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[@trancefighter]

KOF2000 had a striker system that works similar. People ended up using the same 5 strikers out of about 50+. I hope the same doesn't happen here.

[@Doralga]

considering there's only 20 and they're baked in combat unlike KOF which only focused on the 1v1 combat despite having your team mates

[@elfelganor]

I use to use BAO because of the projectile.

[@Jeffmetal42]

​@@elfelganoryou.... You're one of, those people... Just kidding around... Kind of. 😂

[@Rivarham]

I highly doubt it'll be as terrible as in KOF'00, because many of the strikers enabled infinites. MK games often have a nice balance to avoid those... It doesn't mean some will end up being a complete annoyance.

[@gatosotag1860]

That's inevitable and it's going to happen.

[@TheGoodIdiot89]

Luckily NRS has shown to do a ton of polish near launch and is usually pretty willing to hear us out within reason. Im excited to see how it feels in 2 months

[@krushingbro6620]

yea this build for the stress test is probably old because they dont wanna spill everything quite just yet the beta in august is gonna be the most telling so some stuff might have already been addressed and we just havent seen it yet. figers crossed.

[@TaIIer]

I assume that this build that everyone was playing on was to show off all of the flashiness of certain moves because they even have a slow mo feature that I found to be interesting

[@TBContent24]

Most likely will just make their employees do "krunch time" for the next few months until launch

[@kanasas2]

No offense but hear us out within reason ? Mk11 they def didn't listen to even the most annoying thing breakaway! also never did a true final patch didn't even fix the glitches or d2 kb triggering on s1 punishes meaning people could spam d2 after a poke and get between 20-50 peecent

[@I-need-2-win]

​@@kanasas2I never had any problems with bugs or anything except for the slow movement..

[@shawnheatherly]

If movement doesn't feel good, it doesn't really matter what the systems around it are like.

[@advanced8998]

NRS too worried about visuals when gameplay is most important

[@strtfghtr88]

​@@advanced8998IMO Gameplay > Music > Graphics

[@DezRexy]

​@@advanced8998NRS increased the speed of MK11 between its beta and release. It's very possible they'll do the same here.

[@deadgunslinger8489]

@@strtfghtr88 i think its more like: Gameplay = music = design/artstyle These are the 3 pillars of fighting games

[@asabovesobellow1676]

@@advanced8998and “realism”

[@leKageBunshin]

The kameos could use more character. They don't talk/interact. They come do their thing and awkwardly leave.

[@Dev_A_Station]

They shoulda just been fleshed out characters and added tag. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Hinokami777]

I just wished we could switch between our two characters willingly like mk9 plus have assists

[@Dev_A_Station]

@@Hinokami777 the reason we cant is bc the devs dont wanna feel they wasted development time. So they’re forcing us. Also bc they know most players wouldnt even pick kameos if given the option. This mechanic was also completely ed’s idea. The team just wanted to give each character an assist move. Boon last minute said “i want to give every player the same opportunities” so they changed it to the kameo system. Since he’s “creative director” im sure he’s just forcing us to share in his vision. Wether we agree or not.

[@jgs_gamestudio9096]

​@dev2985 did you not sign an ndl?

[@jgs_gamestudio9096]

​@@Dev_A_Stationcome to my office tomorrow morning

[@ramenforlunch]

I definitely am glad that crazy cool combos are back, but I do have to agree on your concerns with the movement speed and how slow everything is.

[@shyshotcaller27]

Based on what Ed said, the game itself is going to surface around the kameo players. I hope they speed it up a bit and improve the dash. I don't really like the floating mechanics but I'm sure they'll clean it up.

[@coomcharger6105]

I'm pretty sure people who played Armageddon said that exact same thing when the game came out

[@darkaero]

Mk11 dash was slow as dogshit at launch and was fixed fairly quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets sped up by launch if not in one of the first patches

[@TaIIer]

@@darkaeroI wonder how fast they will make it if or when they do drop a patch for the dash speeds

[@skdeno8992]

i feel like the floaty jumps are good it forces neutral to be played because if some one loves jumping its a free punish every time forces it to stay on the ground stops bs like jacqui and kabal imo i loved the floaty jumps the floaty jumps are starting to expose lots of ppls neutral.

[@jo3y_2.0]

@@skdeno8992Very true. Not a lot of folks know how to neutral jump to their advantage.

[@idkyaface4659]

It’s sad because I guess I can understand them getting rid of running from mkx because it makes it so the skill floor is much higher but the expression and movement of mkx was just something else and I loved it. Hope to see it again one day. Still hype for mk1 but I was hoping for something a little bit quicker

[@davidantunes9900]

How tf does removing 99% of neutral and spacing make the game harder? Run button is definitely a scrub friendly mechanic, which is why the more casual players seem to like it. Edit: ignore this comment I misread what the original comment said

[@moballardful]

​@@davidantunes9900wait so are you advocating for or against the run? You're blasting the original comment but then the argument you're making is in agreement with it lol. Like... what? 😂

[@davidantunes9900]

@@moballardful my bad I misread the comment

[@deadgunslinger8489]

My Brother in Christ mk9 movement was 1000 times better than mkx

[@mrthanos8140]

Casuals would prefer less and I seen none of them run because they don’t know how to. They eat up this slow do barely nothing and take 50 off gameplay. So do the “pros” it’s easier money like this. They are only listening to the wrong people and ass lickers. The game will be old fast again will be sucessful despite anytbing anyway. And we’ll sadly be stuck waiting for the next nrs game for 4 years.

[@gavo7911]

I think that once release check is turned off, the input delay is fixed, and dash canceling is added, this could be a SUPER interesting game. Slow and simple neutral but a vast and complex combo system sounds really interesting. While I do miss the breakneck pace of MKX, I am super interested to see how this one goes.

[@jaealxndr]

sidenote on twitch watching him do this on 1 take was impressive

[@liluminati9791]

max would make a great game journalist honestly

[@jaealxndr]

@@liluminati9791 fr

[@briansilva3765]

Almost every video he does is live on Twitch, on 1 take without script, the man just knows how to talk really well.

[@jaealxndr]

@@briansilva3765 it was first time I saw it live , was just giving my praise to the man

[@NeoNintendo]

@@liluminati9791 Not true. Max is too good at video games to be a game journalist.

[@soliduswasright678]

The main thing I want tweaked immediately is the speed of grabs/throws. The animations take like 10 seconds each, that's way too long.

[@mmm6325]

The Kano grab last so long. We need to wait until he slowly walks away from the screen lol

[@krushingbro6620]

Kano kameo throw is unnecessarily long.

[@Lifeofsurprises]

I don't really care about the animations. Those can be as long as they want. But dashes being better would be nice

[@Ytomany]

Yeah no one wanna watch that shit after like 100 matches, i get you like your animations but man i dont wanna see em

[@semaj06]

Screw grabs. Worst part of fighting games imo.

[@lckaboom6810]

It would be genuinely absurd if MK1 doesn’t release with faster movement overall. That is THE number one criticism and there’s no way NRS hasn’t taken notice.

[@Hinokami777]

They should’ve got the idea since we complained about mk11 4 years ago idk why they didn’t learn

[@Synical02]

​@@Hinokami777because after the initial bitchin the fans who stayed realized the game isn't actually that slow. The devs are changing their core audience because unga boonga jank from mkx wasn't a good for newer players and jarring in general to view.

[@khalduras784]

​@@Synical02nah it was still slow. The reason the mk11 audience that stayed with it continued to play it is simply because theyre the guys that argue against the complainers and prefered it being "slower"

[@Synical02]

@khalduras784 It needed to be slower. That's the problem with mk9 and x they were too widely unbalanced and janky making it jarring for competition and for returning players/ new comers to enjoy. 11 by far was the best gameplay wise because the pace was slower exactly why it's had the longest life span . They are doing the same with sf6 getting a different audience for longevity instead of a short 2 year life span.

[@khalduras784]

@@Synical02 where the hell have you been to actually have the complete opposite experience and beliefs. "Returning players" lel It was slowed down because it wanted to try and recapture old school mk style of gameplay and to attract newer players because of the skill ceiling being "too high" with mkx. Nothing about supposed balancing issues let alone "jarring competition".

[@voidofsilence6616]

I can understand wanting things slowed down to get an understanding on what's going on. Should defend myself? Should I go aggressive? Maybe I can do this or that. But at the same time, it's literally the speed that makes fighting games what they are. 85% of the of time is dashing back and forth, jumping, shielding, everything to get an open for an attack or to make a distance between you and the opponent to quickly plan something out. 2013 Killer Instinct is a perfect example of speed and combos and is literally the most entertaining thing to watch. I hope this changes for MK1. Having more options to work with is a huge step since MK11. Now they just need to speed it up just a tad bit more.

[@jaealxndr]

Hearing “ i main Omni-man” will take some getting used to lmao

[@xRichieeex]

This game is turning out to be exactly what I didn’t want it to be. Imo MKX was going in the perfect direction. The drastic switch to the slow neutral style of MK11 turned me off of it.

[@roof1975]

Play SF6. Problem solved..

[@strangeone7198]

​@@roof1975what if you like mortal kombat but just want the game to be better?

[@StoneCold-Stutter]

@@strangeone7198 better for who? U and other people who like mkx and mk9

[@LionHeart_511]

Totally agree! I will ask for refund.. didn't like beta and the game is slow

[@iancruz6617]

@@roof1975 that game is a flash fest trasth

[@BltzZ]

Kenshi had people super stressed! I could not figure him out during the play days time we had. But sitting down and getting time with him and seeing sonic fox do sonic fox things opened my eyes!

[@devar7502]

Even NinjaKilla struggled against him

[@reddogg7787]

Yes sonic fox is a mastermind I had to watch his stream to get a hang of Kenshi also. From set ups to regular special moves.

[@BltzZ]

@@reddogg7787 the R1 delay on sento stance was one thing. But being able to block and have the stance clone fight for you! Mind blowing

[@BltzZ]

@@devar7502 those sets are great. I gotta watch their uploads tonight. I caught a bit of the live portions. Ninjakillas 52 percent Liu Kang combo is so hilarious. I wish I had time to learn it but between ff16 and this it was hard to juggle

[@sirruffalot]

The slow pace is so Ed Boon can play the game at his pace.

[@milesprowr]

If they wanted to, they could implement a run button and link kameos to the run bar, and it might be a little foreign, but not as much as people might claim... But at least it would be HYPE!

[@SageYT7709]

Only thing the game needs (besides balancing liu Kang) is overall speed increase and actual mk9 style dash blocking imo

[@djcrazy941026]

What's wrong with Liu? I have seen 50% combos from all characters except Kitana.

[@shyshotcaller27]

​@@djcrazy941026I've seen crazy combos with Kitana too. The potential is amazing.

[@Longtimec]

Liu is perfect

[@Jeffmetal42]

​@@djcrazy941026hell, Kitana has a corner infinite from what I saw. Don't need 50% when you can just take it all. I'm sure it'll be patched out before release.

[@GenericName0042]

Nah, I've seen plenty of 45-50% from all four characters. Liu Kang just seems to be the most accessible character, which makes since, considering he's technically the main character of the whole franchise lol

[@Alex-vv9wg]

I think the amount of endlag some moves have especially when finishing strings and throwing projectiles is a big gripe personally. The awkward pauses between the Time a move ends to the point where the next person can act feels so sluggish to me

[@poepertist]

my man sad endlag lmao

[@edd-ik1lw]

​@poepertist it's true tho it's bouncy kombat 1 looks like 11 with kameos

[@burningdeadman]

I Think at NRS polished cinematic feel is taking priority to fast paced action and quick decision making maybe because it was hard to follow and they want it to be fluid? not sure but thats my hunch. The kameo system is interesting but weird how they always overbalanced certain things in NRS. Max is right they need to let things just rock with mechanics

[@jingleballs9935]

Yea I agree. They really need to listen to the fighting players.

[@ZombifiedBuizel]

⁠@@jingleballs9935I disagree. You do that and Mortal Kombat turns into Street Fighter with rebalances every week cause people whine that their favorite character is underpowered or someone else's favorite character is too overpowered. It doesn't work and makes the game trash.

[@theblobconsumes4859]

​@@ZombifiedBuizel This doesn't actually happen, not that way. Rebalances happen regardless of the style taken, because balancing is important for fighting games. Also, Killer Instinct, while not perfectly balanced, did prove you can get pretty damn close to a very well-balanced game. MKX got there as well. SF6 is currently pretty well-balanced also. Things are still tuned here and there but it is a pretty balanced game already.

[@theblobconsumes4859]

Fast-paced action is pretty much what makes it fluid, I'd say. MK9 and MKX have a fast pace which makes them very difficult at a high-end, however, that fast-pace also greatly facilitates a casual who is just playing against CPU or against a friend.

[@ZombifiedBuizel]

@@theblobconsumes4859 For Street Fighter in particular it does because that's all I've been hearing from Street Fighter fans and seeing from Capcom.

[@eshaanbasu9342]

Last time in mk11 when people complained about the dashes it was fixed, so they have a precedent of doing what we want them to. If everyone gets a good dash/wavedash like kotal, fujin have in 11 this game will be perfect.

[@Hinokami777]

Mk11 is still slow as crap compared to mk9 and mkx. They didn’t fix it entirely. The jumping is still floaty and slow. And if they knew our complaints on mk11 4 years ago why didn’t they learn ? They give us another slow game at launch knowing we don’t enjoy it lol.

[@Hinokami777]

And won’t be perfect unless they fix the limited cameo options

[@Tek195]

@@Hinokami777 they did listen because the biggest complaint was combos & combo options & they definitely rectified with air combos & Kameos The game will speed up at launch or a dash similar to 9 would be perfect But with all due respect a lot of people like you 💩 on 11 & yes I had my complaints too but game sold 15 million copies which is insane numbers so clearly many people liked it too

[@khalduras784]

​​@@Tek195it was the best fg graphically with a decent story campaign and released around a time where other fgc games were slowing down or just straight up had bad releases alongside releasing an expansion that straight up expanded said decent campaign and this not yet taking into account other factors Its not surprising that the game sold well but the problems persists and deserved the shitting. Trying to downplay them at just soulless "lel 15 million copies sold" when it doesnt even translate to actual 15 million active players is just being dumb

[@Tek195]

@@khalduras784 I’ll tell you what’s dumb your 15 million copies not being 15 million people comment when has that ever happened? Street fighter 2 the most popular fighter ever do you think all the sales were different people? Like all SF2 sales were different to SF2 turbo? No of course not it’s ludicrous but it’s always different standards when held to MK but love to 💩 on it because it’s the biggest fighting game franchise mainstream without a doubt. Once again there was some things I liked about it and some things I didn’t but I won’t begrudge people who loved it maybe they enjoy a different style to you but to call a game soulless it’s a very insane comment. I love SF too but SF5 was not a a good game but people like you don’t bring that up do you? But again I don’t begrudge anyone who likes that game I understand it but doesn’t get that level of hate & if you want to talk No soul SF5 barebones release with no arcade mode is the epitome of it but once again unfair to say that about a revered franchise people worked hard to make

[@asia_crasia]

I have to be honest, the stress test made me less excited and interested in the game. Watching people stream it, I was just getting really bored with how slow the game looked and my attention just kept going elsewhere

[@MegaDarkness5000]

I was bored when watching the MK 1 gameplay, It's so odd due to the fact that Street fighter 3rd Strike and 6 are slow fighting games yet I'm glued to the screen when it's being played.

[@jackkawf4449]

It doesn't help that the kameos look goofy

[@strangeone7198]

​@@MegaDarkness5000there's so much more dimension to street fighter compared to mortal kombat

[@jackkawf4449]

@@watchmesquatch yeah, we'll just sit you down and make you watch full episodes of shows you don't enjoy and then explain to you how your attention span is the issue, not that your personal preference is that you don't enjoy what you see.....you have some 3rd grade logic

[@BeAVulture]

@@watchmesquatch If you lose to someone playing a crippled character the scrub is you actually

[@papamilfz1565]

It’s so cool that they made Liu Kangs round intros look like hes snapping the “ROUND 1” into existence with his movements ❤

[@Dethgato5060]

I came back to mk when mkx came out. The 1 thing I LOVED about that game was the ability to run cancel. I only played characters that had the ability to do that which was quite a bit of the roster. It was a learning curve that felt amazing when executed properly. I dont kno shit about fighting games really, but mkx for that 1 simple reason will go down as #1 for me. I doubt I'll see it again being a lot of people said mkx spoiled us, but if it ever did ide be there executing those sweet run cancel combos and fake outs!

[@genesiskeglar6372]

MKX is where it’s at.

[@torchlight1785]

I remember when I said “it looks slower” in another video’s comment section , everyone jumped saying “you’re blind if you think this is slower then MK11.” I’m not saying it’s bad but I’m glad my eyes aren’t deceiving me.

[@aimfuldrifter]

Max just tells it like it is. Gotta love the concerns mentioned openly without too much diplomacy. Back in the day there was no way players would have any impact on the released product. Look how much has changed. Awesome content like usual, Max!

[@noeldanchou3170]

​@@twistedspine7300Sonicfox and NinjaKilla your NRS PLAYER have some CONCERNS on the game if you watch the stream of Max yesterday NinjaKilla also complain on that too lmao and Steve(Max Friend) who loves NRS GAMES felt the dissatisfaction of the game lmao. stop coping you didn't play the game, cause they did

[@aimfuldrifter]

@@twistedspine7300 We're all a little biased towards the things we like and love. But when Max mentions players that are fans of the series, having a similar opinion then I think they have a point there.

[@noeldanchou3170]

@@twistedspine7300 on that statement of the capcom uhm. He literally trash about SFV if you don't know. He literally bitch that game for years until it was good on later season but you can see how max disappointed on that game even it has potential. Even on SF6 alpha build when he played that game he has bad impression on that game at first but it changes the longer he plays. he is scared that this is going to be SFV state again.

[@I-need-2-win]

​@@twistedspine7300literally everyone's concerns is about the speed and almost everyone agrees that it should be sped up a bit dude. What's so wrong about people wanting changes?

[@superkeefo6951]

This is why I took the initial impressions people had a week or two ago with a grain of salt.. this is the exact same pattern as 11 - hype at new game, excitement about a new direction with a little concern - concern grows on next exposure to the game etc etc - im not a die hard MK fan, i do enjoy the games but I dont think i'll be buying this at full price though after MK11, will wait for a sale.

[@genesiskeglar6372]

Same

[@coolguy9782]

THEY NEED A RUNNING MECHANIC THATS WHY I ALWAYS GO BACK TO MKX MK 11 IS TOO SLOW I WAS HOPING RUNNING WOULD COME BACK ON MK1

[@ungratefulninja4535]

What you said!

[@jackkawf4449]

It's crazy too, because mkx had so much combo potential, not just long combos, but you could pretty much string moves together as with creativity, then since mk11 it's been "find those one or two good combos and use those"

[@legacytag]

The idea of DLC Kameos definitely excites me, since it'll allow post-launch releases that can unlock new combo routes for the entire cast.

[@Josema234]

I really like the art style of this game. Combos look crazy too and so much possibilities and creativity. Stages are gorgeous. Overall I have more positives than negatives but dashes must be improved.

[@danielshalem1]

Hey there! I have been a lurker in this channel for years now and played MK and Injustice as my main games for the past 10~ years. SF6 is the first time I picked a SF game and I was surprised with how diffefent it felt. It feels like SF is more focused on the fundemental of fighting games (like frame counts, movement, etc) and MK is more on the flashy things as Kombos and special moves. I would love to see a video of you going over the differences between the those two big franchises. Not a "which is better". It could be super fun and interesting!!!

[@Solstone_]

Summed up all of my thoughts with MK1 so far. I resonate with others by saying if they increase the speed in some way it'll be significantly more fun and engaging

[@MC24DB]

I'm still not sold on Kameos yet, Kitana for example is extremely limited without the help of Kameos and I'm sure that's going to be the case throughout the roster, just makes the character itself feel really limited.

[@dextergarner1286]

This is always the problem I see with developers wanting new players and retaining core gamers. If the mobility is too hyper seasoned players have no issue but new players struggle and vice versa. I am sure we will get an adjustment to the dashing to bridge the gap and please everyone.

[@G3ekbox]

Playing these videos at 1.25x speed gives MK1 the speed I would love to see in the production release. I loved the the speed of play in MK TRILOGY.

[@theblobconsumes4859]

I hope they make it faster and give more freedom to the kameo system. Those are definitely my biggest concerns; Speed in particular. MK9 and MKX have a speed which makes it excellent.

[@himnher2293]

Dude everytime I see Kenshi do his sword strings, I was like wtf is this, I’m watching this guy literally move in slow motion. Felt like it was the same as watching paint dry

[@RomeoBerkut]

Agree, bro. This movement is ridiculously slow

[@jaybird0715]

Fr, this game is dead on arrival

[@robertallshouse500]

This game will sell really well…. But the online community will die. Nrs really needs to start prioritizing gameplay mechanics more.

[@jackkawf4449]

Agree, this will last a few months, till everyone is over the honeymoon stage and bored, especially with other fighting games stepping up.

[@joseluisfernandez5981]

Damn you know what you are talking about. I don´t agree in a few things, but this is the best MK1 review till now about what this game is and the current situation. You´ve made really good points here.

[@1InVader1]

I don't quite want MKX speed, but going back to MK9 would be nice.

[@ryandavis4936]

im a bit worried about the slow speed. having a fast movement speed is key to a good feeling fighting game. throwing a bunch of stuff on screen is cool but the fundamental elements of the game need ot be good

[@ElderDoge]

I don't like the kameo system, I would prefer they put in another attack button than the kameo button

[@musicxxa6678]

My favorite thing in fighting games is whiff punish. It's extremely satisfying. I wanna navigate the screen faster than the opponent and whiff punish their attack. I hope we will have kharakters like this. I like the Scorpion a lot in MK11. His screen control was good with teleport and air grab then he had b1 and b2 for whiff punish. It was fun af. You could also cancel b1 and b2 with tp cancel if you are fast enough. The playstyle is hard because you need to be precise but it's fun.

[@vagelistsirogiannis1799]

Personally after playing many fighting games I've come to an understanding that i LOVE fast paced games. It makes me feel more engaged playing it or watching it.

[@queenmilly6697]

IMO the only thing that needs some slight adjustment is the movement speed. Other than that, everything’s great. the combos, Kameos and graphics are all amazing.

[@georgealvarez1195]

"Just make the dash ALOT better" like maybe turning dash into a run? You dont need the stamina system nor would you need to keep it the exact same. It could be slower with alot more risk.

[@BearKlaw]

One thing I like about mk1 compared to mk11 is that the fatalities no longer pause/ freeze in the middle of the act. It has a better, more dramatic effect in mk1.

[@JoshBou]

At this point it seems like the dash is only in the game so we can't call them out for not having it. Just give me a dash that covers significantly more distance covered by the walk in half the time. No run or telleport needed.

[@andimari9194]

It’s weird. Using those kameos that stop your character is basically as if you were just using a special move, except just borrowing from another character. If you could move while they still did these moves than it doesn’t really feel like a replacement, but again a combo extension

[@simonarques5201]

Yeah this sucks a lot. They could at least have made tag team throws so that you get a special animation depending on the two characters. But just making the kameo do the throw while you are doing nothing is..bad

[@TaIIer]

@@simonarques5201I’ll give them benefit of the doubt considering that this is most likely a unfinished build of the game but hopefully that is changed once the game releases.

[@Hinokami777]

@@simonarques5201they put all their effort into tag team X-rays

[@simonarques5201]

@@Hinokami777 even there it's not really tag team since it's just each character doing its opening or ending move in succession. True tag would be seing character acting at the same time like Dear or alive or Tekken tag throws

[@cholou9708]

yeah man, that's so awkward!!

[@CrimsonFIame]

So it's safe to say Max isn't completely stoked for this game after this right?

[@Wilkins325]

I predicted that the game speed would be a big issue soon as I saw the trailer. How are they this out of touch to not fix what everyone complained about in the last game

[@Ludzig]

I mean he hasnt really liked the NRS games in general since X and this is more of the same. I don't see the game could have changed his mind

[@heimstaden4588]

Im with him. X is the fkin goat. They should built upon that

[@JcgLounge]

“You’re not getting MKX again” That’s the sad reality we have to accept. 😢

[@cylondorado4582]

Theory off the top of my head: Maybe the moves are slower so they can try to make the animations look better. I always figured people didn’t like MK animations because having short, quick fighting game attacks looks weird on hyper realistic character models.

[@ohacade408]

The complaints about animation actually don’t have much to do with either speed or character models, but more to do with the rules of animation as a discipline, e.g. the rule of exaggeration. It’s hard to explain but there’s a video out there that breaks down why NRS’s animations suck in comparison to other fighting games.

[@grinsekatzedecheshire7754]

Fastest Tekken attacks are 10 frames (with a few exceptions) yet Tekken feels a lot faster than MK games

[@gajodealfama2280]

​@@ohacade408do you thing they improved? Im not an animator but at the end of mk11 animations were better. I use fujin as an example.

[@jgblkshot8375]

​@ohacade408 Can we all at least say the animation in MK11 and this game is a DAMN fine improvement over the animation in past games

[@grinsekatzedecheshire7754]

@@jgblkshot8375 stiff af MK9 has better animations than last 3 MK games.

[@zaikoji]

Just not wild about the whole Kameos thing. I get the “variety” it will bring to moves and play styles etc. It just somehow looks dumb to me. Just a personal opinion.

[@jackkawf4449]

You're not alone..... "cOmBo pOtEnTiAl"..... Oooh an assist pop in

[@TheStatisticalPizza]

I definitely agree about the kameo system - set a limited number of uses per match and do away with breakers tied to meter, instead you call in a kameo to break while you're being hit. Essentially just make it more of a trade-off between using your assist as damage or a break rather than a meter that consistently charges which encourages you to use it as often as possible.

[@Unknownigen]

Having a limit to how many Kameos you can use would feel a lot like Krushing Blows. It would feel way too limiting, and would discourage you from using them. Given that it's the main gameplay gimmick of MK1, they definitely shouldn't be discouraging you from using it.

[@TheStatisticalPizza]

@@Unknownigen totally fair but I like that aspect of MK11, it always kept you on your toes with the exception of some characters who had way too easy KBs

[@GlaciusTS]

I disagree with the idea of sacrificing combos. I would like to see mobility sped up a bit, but I don’t want the trade off to be the combos. If you are a hardcore player, I can see how combos might not be the top priority, but I am no pro player, and I keep coming back to MK purely for all the cool shit you can do, and combos is such a HUGE part of that, especially now that they’ve opened up and we have all these Kameos to play with. My mind is thinking “I wonder what I can do with Ermac and Drahmin?”, “How might Havik and Stryker work as a team?” And “I need to try out Ashrah and Motaro, what the hell is that gonna be like?” I want to keep those combo options open, because if we do, there’s at least a chance that any pairing might be able to knock out some awesome stuff. I’d like to be able to pair up characters I find weird or interesting and see what happens. I wanna Ermac Teleslam people all over the place and finish them off with one of Motaro’s insane full screen knock back projectile attacks. Now, do I want some pacing improvements? Yes. But I don’t think we have to sacrifice combos for that. I wouldn’t sacrifice anything in that regard unless absolutely necessary. Watching SonicFox knock about people with Kenshi has been too enjoyable, and I wanna learn to do that shit once I get more time with the game and a practice/tutorial mode. And I don’t know if it make me an odd one out, but I stuck with MK9 for a long time because of the long accessible combos. I didn’t stop until MKX rolled around. Then I stopped playing MKX until the DLC rolled around, and only rarely came back to it once I got tired of those. Same went for MK11, to an even greater extent. Mind you, I say this as someone who has been loyal to MK but primarily plays offline, local multiplayer matches with friends. I suck as soon as I drop into an online match. I’d only win a scattered round and MAYBE a match against better players back during the MK9-MKX days. And it’s only gotten worse in recent years as aging and brain fog seem to have rotted my brain. Combos are about as exciting as MK gets for me. 🤷‍♂️

[@sG_Chimera]

Yahhhh not a fan of the cameo system. The ONLY thing I’ve been impressed by is the graphics/loading animation, and that’s just a natural progression. Hopefully it improves over time but I’ve never been less excited for an MK game.

[@lordronn472]

The bad: they removed Liu Kang’s bicycle kick

[@smorgborg]

He uses it during his fatal blow. Plus he kinda has a new version of it as well.

[@lordronn472]

@@smorgborg I know but the og version was better

[@hjblacdes61]

@@smorgborg Its actually Kung Lao's Bicycle kick. Which is pretty cool

[@lordronn472]

@@hjblacdes61what? He has it now?

[@hjblacdes61]

@@lordronn472Kung Lao had a bycicle kick in the 3D era games. the bike kick liu is using is that one

[@Bynoe]

A slow neutral combined with long combos sounds like exactly what I don't want from a fighting game... I'm okay with a fighting game with a slower, more deliberate pace where the emphasis is on your decision making in the neutral, but then that's what I want the game to be about rather than also having crazy long combos that last up 10 seconds and seem to be your primary source of damage.

[@Zalahsar]

People complained alot about the lack of combo options in MK11, which honestly I didn't mind, and some characters still had long ass and many combos, but it was enough for them to do this open many combo string/options type of combo fighting in MK1, I'll enjoy it tho.

[@KaminariHouse]

I'm with you 100%. If it lacks greatly in one area, it's gotta make up for it elsewhere.

[@Jordan13299]

Real talk they should make it more similar to MK9’s movement. Everybody loved MK9 and other than some wackass balancing like the top tiers just obliterating Jade and Sheeva, I don’t see why they don’t just build on that style especially since it’s already been so long since MK9

[@oldman2324]

@bynoe You must really hate killer instinct then?

[@HBG313]

Wtf are you talking about its a fighting game combos should be the primary source of damage

[@Hinokami777]

I feel like we should just be able to switch between our two characters like Tekken tag , blazblue cross tag etc. second character just feels like a waste. Especially since the assists aren’t that great. Can’t even use them in block strings really

[@grimmkiller2161]

Tbh i hate that injustice had such a huge influence on how the current MK games function, mkx had it the best imo

[@DolceAires34]

Another thing i notice which seems to be a problem is the characters have like 4 strings. All i see is the same 3 or 4 strings from liu kang and it makes the game feel limited

[@visionarybrushstroker7694]

I noticed that too

[@Baltic_Dude]

Especially true with Kitana

[@DolceAires34]

@@Baltic_Dude yup and maybe like 1 or 2 of those strings give you a pop up

[@roof1975]

I prefer it slower! Older, slower reflexes now. More mind games, neutral, and I think it's intentional. So it feels more grounded, realistic, heavy hitting, allows you to see and appreciate the combos and animations. In contrast I hate SF6. Most people just mashing these cartoony fast punch pokes etc.

[@noeldanchou3170]

damn its gonna be snooze fest when you watch it. and I think it will be a good therapy to make me sleepy. You playing fighting games not just a turtle clashing shit. the game is unrealistic supposed to be have unrealistic movement thats why it need speed

[@strangeone7198]

Sounds like a skill issue from you. Not everyone wants a snooze fest with pretty graphics

[@BeAVulture]

Ain't no way you think this game feels heavy hitting. The characters look like they're made out of weightless plastic when they move and the animations have no inertia whatsoever. It's like everyone is a floaty balloon or shit.

[@hjblacdes61]

The problem is its only Slower. It has none of those other qualities you're giving it. The game you're describing is Samurai Showdown.

[@hjblacdes61]

@@BeAVulture I've never seen softer looking strikes thrown by people we're supposed to believe are beating each other to death. Johnny Cage will mush someones face and a whole pint of blood shoots out.

[@KaminariHouse]

In an ideal world MK1 would have the movement, neutral and expression of a MvC, with NRS budget, at least to me. But, I do hope NRS listens to the complaints at least a bit, unless this is really what they are going for (minus input delay ofc).

[@AnEveryManJack]

Kameos sound interesting in concept, but kind of meh in current execution. Ed described it as extra moves for your character. I think that's neat to have essentially universal extra moves for any character, but assists have a tried and true history in FGs, so I'm confused why they're not just doing it more like those. The ones where your main just poses to side sound really lame.

[@AkaHoodie]

Once the FGC find out the best character and kameo, you'll be running into the same characters over and over. Thats with any online game, it didnt happen as much back then cause youtube wasnt that big.

[@williamcalhoun883]

I think once movement is improved, the game will feel great. I wouldn't say kameos need crazy amounts of tuning either, even after 3 days of stress, people were still finding out cool and crazy setups you could do with Jax and whatnot. And that's just 3 kameos and 4 characters.

[@xmartinv1xvideogamingtv69]

Yea, check out Real MK Tom Brady

[@noonee_important5175]

I honestly just want another mkx game with the more screen gap and combo potential with a run mechanic and being the fastest mk game

[@shoahkhan5670]

Add: *1)* Co-op tag -- both full tag, as well as for Kameos (P2 controls Kameo), even if only an off-line functionality; *2)* Option for non-cinematic Fatal Blows; *3)* "Kasual" / non-tournament mode where combo damage scaling, and ability / perk restictions can be toggled OFF (a kind of testing ground for how old school games used to play before all the "balance" restrictions ruined the fun); *4)* Shao [Kahn], Michael Myers, and Homelander; and *5)* weekly Kombat Kasts, w/Steffie Brownback ("16bit") front and centre... 😏

[@DoritosJackd]

MK1 feels like a breathe of fresh air, looks like movement speed needs to be increased and I’m pretty happy with gameplay

[@megaham1552]

I think the speed is fine, MK doesn't have to be a fast game

[@Bluprint4]

@@megaham1552 the speed is def not fine.. MK needs to be a fast game.. we don't need another MK11 - speed this shit up.. the speed needs to match the combos

[@ashash8026]

The animations for these combos and throws need to speed up as well . They are unnecessarily long

[@DoritosJackd]

@@megaham1552at least little bit faster. The slow speed doesn’t compliment the long combos

[@DoritosJackd]

@@ashash8026throws are not nearly as long as they have been

[@Sylvaire]

I love this game but I agree that dashes need to be looked at. Walk/attack speed seem good but dashes feel unrewarding. Otherwise super hype! Also hey! That's me at 11:30 with Kenshi! 😂 We had some good games!

[@darthcerebus]

I was just thinking "Oh man, that Kenshi's getting swaggy with those combos" in that exact part XD

[@Sylvaire]

@@darthcerebus Haha thank you! Yeah I basically only played Kenshi for the duration of the stress test and by day 3 I was hitting some deviously swaggy stuff! I want the game to come out NOW so I can lab some more combos! 😭

[@hotcoldman77]

Liu Kang is SLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW LMAO! Other than the mobility speed, amazing game. Fingers krossed for a Konquest mode lol

[@Sylvaire]

@@hotcoldman77 Yeah they said they have a game mode they havent shown us yet... Konquest perhaps? 👀

[@Toxicm0nto]

Solid points, i think nrs is gonna tweek the game a bit

[@LordDraikful]

Yeah, I've never been an MK fan and slow movement + long, slow combos is not gonna be the combination of traits that gets me into it

[@johnsearcy1064]

I'm glad Max is excited for MK again. I loved the stress test, I want to play the rest of the roster so bad.

[@pickledparsleyparty]

Are we watching the same Max? The speed of the game is definitely killing it for him.

[@biggooberfish7774]

@@pickledparsleyparty He straight up says he's excited in this video. Multiple times. You can be excited for something and still want parts of it changed/improved.

[@sano-br]

Excited where? I think Max and many others will be most interested in the story mode

[@DonEnzone]

@@biggooberfish7774 Right now it sounds like this will go the way of MK11. He'll play it in the first few weeks and then quickly lose interest. Can't say I blame him.

[@devar7502]

​@@sano-brI think he is "quite" Interested in the story

[@ronniekitchens6502]

I wonder why they decided to make this game slower when we all complained about how slow mk11 was

[@Sleaves]

Disappointingly surprised at the amount of people that are just fine with kameos being in the game. That’s the main reason I won’t be picking this one up, and I’ve played every MK. Shame.

[@jackkawf4449]

Same

[@55pillsbury]

God I’d love to have another MKX that game was amazing

[@NeivySeals]

Man nostalgia hits hard with this game, it was such a great game

[@Xander_Park]

Agreed 💯

[@Baltic_Dude]

MKX best fighting game ever made

[@witchspawndeathmetal7742]

i just wanna know why they’re still bringing over the damn switch stance button😊

[@erfanesmaili12]

I don't like how using Cameos is necessary, even executing the majority of the combos is reliant on the cameo character. They have not said anything about having a classic mode without the cameos being present in it either

[@RobbieBoBobby]

I don't like NRS games. I can't quite put my finger on it but it's a lot to do with the way the game feels and the way the animations look. Looks cool but it's not for me. Not letting myself get baited into buying another NRS game just to play it for a couple days and drop it.

[@mightymaxter8867]

Kameos should just be optional and graphics look like a Switch Game other than the backgrounds

[@DBrealmadrid9606]

Max is so grounded you would never be able to tell he makes 7 figures a year. A great guy

[@You_Rage_Quit]

You met him irl? 😂 relax

[@DBrealmadrid9606]

@@You_Rage_Quit No? I am relaxed lol. What part of my comment implied otherwise?

[@luivela4395]

Watching the Sonic vs Ninja matches already gave me a better impression than just the summer game fest footage. I encourage anyone to watch it.

[@oldman2324]

100%. Sadly many of the people in here wouldn’t even know who SonicFox and Ninja Killer are.

[@KamenRider1985]

They should just put in a Turbo option in the character select screen. If players prefer the slower states fine. If players prefer a hyper mode then there you go. I always prefer fast moving characters in fighters.

[@astashasta1]

7:05 Im glad you recognized this ya mk1 looks slower but you have more creative combo options. Not sure why the community thinks it sped up... mk11 being slow was blown way out of proportion because mkx was on crack speed.

[@eshaanbasu9342]

I agree, max exaggerates how slow mk11 was maybe bc he dropped it early but people are very good at wavedashing now, and high mobility characters like fujin being in the meta also help.

[@dienasty84]

NRS better get to their slow asses to fixing the speed because It's the most disliked thing on Mortal Kombat 11's gameplay and the dashing also needs to be faster. I mean it's a stress test, so NRS better listen to the criticisms

[@GuitarSlayer136]

Can't wait for every DLC announcement to just be praying your main/most wanted character isn't a fucking Kameo

[@bioswat96]

Throw animations are SO LONG. NOt only the animations are long but then you literally stand for 3-4 seconds on place. It's like 5-6 seconds total every time you throw someone

[@TheCyrax87]

It looks so freaking slow. Especially Kenshi. I really enjoyed the variations that MKX had. Wish they would bring those back. Would also love the run button or the dash mechanic that MK9 had

[@jeremyroberts8822]

A good majority of the community hated variations which is why they got rid of them. When they were first introduced it was cool and was definitely on paper a cool idea but what ended up happening was it segmented all the characters move sets way too much and held them back especially in 11. All the characters only had access to pieces of their moveset so depending on which variation you chose it locked you out of certain special moves and stuff like that which is why people didn’t like it. After 2 games of it, it seemed like collectively the community was pushing for them to just give us free reign again and allow us access to 100% of our chosen characters abilities and moves. So yea I wouldn’t count on them coming back atleast not in this game man but they could come back in the future game if they maybe did the variations in a different way. I think I’m MKX they did them right cus the way they were set up it kinda made it to where depending on which one you chose you could play a characters 2 or 3 different ways but in 11 the characters were all pretty limited so separating special moves made it feel even more limited and it didn’t feel like you could play your character in a creative way

[@jackkawf4449]

​@@jeremyroberts8822I agree, but I'll take it over this kameo garbage

[@LICENFIREFEAR]

bihan as subzero is perfection

[@KCAssassin98]

Scorpion's actual rival is finally back

[@ratmehs7478]

@@KCAssassin98 woah now, let’s not talk crazy

[@liluminati9791]

@@KCAssassin98 wonder if the kameo version of subzero is gonna be kuai liang

[@Dr.Faustus.]

​@@KCAssassin98theyre brothers now

[@KCAssassin98]

​@@ratmehs7478I mean Kauai Liang and scorpion were barely even enemies

[@Dev_A_Station]

When i first saw the gameplay trailer immediately said “damn this looks janky and stiff and slow af” thank you for confirming. And yeah 11 has great speed. I still play it and it makes this game look like molasses.

[@electricmeatpuppet]

Honestly, I feel super unimpressed with "Mortal Kombat 1"... the graphics are alright, but I feel like they've really over focused on ridiculous fatalities at the expense of gameplay and any kind of engaging story/setting anymore. Totally not sold on the kameos yet either. Feels like going backwards into a gimmick more than a good "addition". The game has some really stiff competition... I had hoped that they would actually go right back... I feel like it's a huge missed opportunity to go right back to the very FIRST Mortal Kombat tournament... that would be cool as... where it all began. Get some more of that old school martial arts movie aesthetic back into the game.

[@jackkawf4449]

I just can't believe people actually think the kameos are some massive improvement

[@strangeone7198]

Yea. Street Fighter 6 is going to blow Mk1 out of the water

[@christianflex4all]

I’m a big mk fan but sf6 killed it for the fighting genre this year. I think mk will be good, looks like an upgrade to mk11

[@georgealvarez1195]

I am a huge MK fan with hundreds of hours on MKX and MK11, and I was literally falling asleep watching people playing and playing it myself. I'm officially worried.

[@j_corb]

Hmm, that's definitely concerning. I enjoyed MK11 alright, but me and my friend were consistently returning to MKX, even when we were in the height of our MK11 hype. I'd definitely prefer more speed and mobility, and shorter combos. There's nothing more frustrating as a player than spending time "stuck in a combo". I honestly would like to see the return of "running", I don't even think you need stamina, just have it add frames to your attack unless you duck to cancel. My two cents, anyways.

[@MotoMatt418]

From the very first trailer I was deflated in excitement levels due to how the mobility looked. It looked like MK11 again. I was determined I’d skip the game because MK11 was depressing after the first few hours. Then the combos started to emerge. I’m interested again but I agree fully that mobility should be enhanced. MK11 visuals with MKX gameplay style would be perfection.

[@alexbiehn978]

All this people saying that this reminds them of MK9 should really change their glasses. MK9 was peak mortal kombat , this one is generic af they should call it Mortal Combat.

[@NeoInsomniac]

The level of content is going to be the biggest factor for me. Like, 11 had a LOT of towers, and I only played it for a week after launch and then would only come back for the DLC fighters for a few days a piece. There was just so little variety in terms of stuff to do.

[@dantereyes4304]

Even the Krypt lacked content. Once I unlocked all the areas, there were only really a few chests worth opening. The rng chest killed my interest in going back to it

[@NeoInsomniac]

@@dantereyes4304 Oh that was actually the worst. Which is too bad, because I liked the idea of what they were going for with the krypt.

[@manleyfgc7981]

You must be new to fighting games.

[@roof1975]

How about actually fight online? I did KL for 3 years straight, getting off on adrenaline and ranking up, fighting buddies, fighting random, learning the roster. So yeah..try fighting...😂

[@NeoInsomniac]

@@manleyfgc7981 I've been playing fighting games since before you were a regret in your parent's life.

[@TheCreepypro]

always good to hear max's thoughts!

[@Strider-Ragnarok]

It's not the overall speed, it's the short dash what is the problem. Tekken characters are slow too, but it has a great dash mechanic and that what makes it look faster.

[@simpcat4415]

My biggest complaint from the footage I’ve seen is that this just does not feel like an interesting assist game. The cameos seem to be glorified special moves instead of another character you’re working together with. It’s extremely goofy when Sonya runs on the screen and does the longest throw animation of all time while your character just stands there in a pose. It feels like they wanted to make a tag game but for whatever reason has to fall back on this half baked version of one