his criticism started making sense when he showed that main straight line, he is right Ferrari is the elegant and curvy one, Lambo is the aggresive angy boi
@abuabdullah80242 жыл бұрын
fax
@aidaaliten88172 жыл бұрын
Complette oposites
@SMOKEY_HATES_TAXES2 жыл бұрын
@@aidaaliten8817 wym?
@SMOKEY_HATES_TAXES2 жыл бұрын
@Diogo omg the comparison is perfect
@ctr2892 жыл бұрын
I'm fed up with these commentators obsessed with line correspondence. Lines can just exist by themselves, they don't always need connections between them
@aldrichuyliong81432 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can blame Ferrari for this. Based on the press kit the client was heavily involved during every step of the design process. That sounds like code that Centro Stile had to bend to the client's every whim and I'm sure said client gave them several million reasons to do so.
@fifteen88502 жыл бұрын
Tbh I think this looks like a “proper” Ferrari grand tourer because of the gtc chassis minus the shooting break design
@ThomasPerezGhost2 жыл бұрын
Rule #1 of design is never submit something you wouldn't want your name on.
@TheCarKrazeOfficial2 жыл бұрын
The front looks like if the new brz got angry
@252tward2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was just me that realized that
@michaelgakanga2 жыл бұрын
Well it's a BR20...
@D_D_L2 жыл бұрын
He did showed the BRZ for a split second🤣
@TheCarKrazeOfficial2 жыл бұрын
@@D_D_L yeah I saw that when I was watching 😂
@TheCarKrazeOfficial2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelgakanga haha true
@MichaelSmith-kr9qw2 жыл бұрын
The car isn't for Ferrari it is a custom one off for a client and in the end the client is always right and he signed off on the design. I think it is stunning looking !
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker2 жыл бұрын
You are right.the client from what I understand was heavily involved in the design and you might say it shows.for good or bad
@buioso2 жыл бұрын
That explains a lot
@Thesketchmonkey2 жыл бұрын
"The client is always right" can most definitely be applied to a wedding cake design, not a Ferrari
@forange_92712 жыл бұрын
Its the same as if I asked lamborghini to build a 1 of 1 car for me that has a lack of line flow, two round headlights at each side and also I want it to be a truck. Im the client here don’t discuss with me im always right …
@stephanvelines70062 жыл бұрын
@@Thesketchmonkey agreed. I would even suggest that they need to bring Pininfarina back. No offence to the in-house design bureau, but sometimes you need to seek outside inspiration.
@N7Sound2 жыл бұрын
The 458 is a mesmerising masterpiece which gets better and better in time. The car is almost 12 years old and looks as if it was produced yesterday.
@ChaosqueenMaddy2 жыл бұрын
The 458 was the last truly good looking Ferrari
@JV89012 жыл бұрын
I think Ferrari did that “one-of”, custom, specifically made for a particular someone, just because that particular someone paid. So, they made it.
@wainercoppini76232 жыл бұрын
Finally someone got it. It is a one off so they designed it for a customer
@8ball5762 жыл бұрын
@@wainercoppini7623 people seem to not understand that people have different tastes and I like the way it looks
@marciliojunior49192 жыл бұрын
This is a one off car is the client who determines how it will look like. This does not reflect ferraris current design language.
@D_D_L2 жыл бұрын
AKA the client has no taste in cars (pain
@guy_with_no_name73172 жыл бұрын
“taste” is completely subjective, personally I don’t mind the car
@8ball5762 жыл бұрын
@@D_D_L umm no people have different tastes.
@D_D_L2 жыл бұрын
@@8ball576 Then let me ask you a question, does this looks Ferrari enough to you? There are universal standards on what taste you should have, and how you taste.
@spazz272 жыл бұрын
I absolutely understand the logic behind the critique… but after seeing the redesign I’d say it was clear it’s focus was more rear-viewing than progressive/forward viewing… I think the “over designed” elements are no where near Lamborghini like (thankfully), but laying the seeds for future design instead… not all of it, but specifically how they treated the rear intake and the superimposition of shapes in the front fascia… it’s almost as if Ferrari is asking which way to point… I too, prefer the 296/Roma direction, but I also love that rear 3/4 view of this one-off, which is what would be my take away for future designs… lets see… it is all in fun, I wish my problem included having to look at this car in my garage every day, but as I say, let’s see what happens next! …another great video as always!
@shashankreddy68432 жыл бұрын
hay... lambos are not over designed they are just angular shapes. if you look at the aventador, they just have there signature lines and nothing extra, and the svj is way more aggressive but just has aero changes to support the ALA system
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker2 жыл бұрын
The front end redo was like you being underwater and then coming up to the surface.that much of a difference in being able to breathe
@edwardsong90852 жыл бұрын
13:12 I knew it. The first time I saw it I saw Subaru. Even the name “BR20” sounds like Subaru 😂
@Regan_Tatham2 жыл бұрын
i think the f40 was peak Ferrari its so simple yet so distinctive and beautiful
@SY-tn2io2 жыл бұрын
BMW and Ferrari seems to have lost their design identity, a real shame.
@aidaaliten88172 жыл бұрын
One of worst thing that can happen to a brand is loosing its identity
@rks-bh6tb2 жыл бұрын
but one still looks good
@exoticdriver842 жыл бұрын
I feel like the costumer who was making his one off with Ferrari was a first year student/beginner who didn't really had a lot of understanding of a Ferrari design language.
@STEF005R2 жыл бұрын
Lost is the word .. Some good ideas if taken separately but still already passed for more of them. Put together, my eyes are in pain, even more knowing it's a Ferrari. Front is like a messed up F12. The 550, I'm in love ^^ Cool analysis!
@Abisanth112 жыл бұрын
6:25 I think the last Pininfarina designed Ferrari was the F12
@VaunShiz2 жыл бұрын
Nope that's a in house design , but thank God 18 people liked the comment xD
@creekfreak19972 жыл бұрын
Been watching your videos for a while now, and this is a fantastic breakdown! As just a car enthusiast, I was first impressed when I saw the BR20, but then when I watched your examination, it started to make sense to me where things were contradicting each other and "getting lost". I love all these videos, you really are a great teacher when it comes to viewing automotive design more objectively, making every one of your viewers a little more knowledgeable! Can't wait for the next one!
@ethanol15862 жыл бұрын
Bring back Pininfarina
@vietthanhnguyen12272 жыл бұрын
I miss the old elegant Ferrari, but maybe it isn't attractive to new buyers anymore since every manufacturers just make car aggressive and angrier looking, so they stopped.
@OscarDeCicco2 жыл бұрын
Modern days Ferraris after the 458 (perfection) have been just a downfall in terms of design IMO, only exceptions being the J50 (maybe a little too sharp), the Roma (even though it's too AM-esque) and the 296GTB (a few wrong choices but an overall nice flow).
@SoI_Badguy2 жыл бұрын
I quite like the look of the 812...
@vitamc12132 жыл бұрын
I really like the front of the 296GTB, but the rear is where it messes up. Pininfarina was no longer as involved after the Ferrari F12, and you can really tell. The F12 was also a good looking car.
@mmmmosaic2 жыл бұрын
Your re-do is simply amazing. You only extended the front lip spoiler on one side though :p
@s.z.x.012 жыл бұрын
This car resembles the relationship between Ferrari and Lambo, both great brands, but just don’t work together. I definitely like the redesign, that simplicity is such a drastic improvement to the aesthetics
@justanotherguywithoutamous57882 жыл бұрын
This guy has a problem with every design . SMH can’t please him ever. He’s just better than all those designers.
@joelness2 жыл бұрын
That's because there *are* problems with every design. This one in particular is kind of a mess. I can't say he's better since he's not designing to any production standards, but his points are usually valid.
@fifteen88502 жыл бұрын
@@joelness not exactly, I don’t get that “feeling” of “overwhelmingness” when I look at this design. If anything I think this looks like a proper Ferrari grand tourer
@nade55572 жыл бұрын
Because most of the time he's right. I don't know why but new cars seem to completely miss when it comes to proportions, flow, patterns etc. and it seems like designers are doing too much with sharp angles or random lines. Look up any list of the best looking cars and you would be hard pressed to find any made in the past 10 years
@AlexSami-qw4qu2 жыл бұрын
The shot of the Subaru was perfect.
@MikePruszkowski2 жыл бұрын
The redesign looks so good! Nice man
@MalcomHeavy2 жыл бұрын
I actually find the original design very nice and beautiful. I think it's elegant and well proportioned. Yes, it's a bit more graphically active than a lot of other current Ferarris, but it doesn't make this a bad design.
@exoticdriver842 жыл бұрын
The Criticism on Ferrari RB20 was perfect and very well explained. This was like a car design teacher's lesson.
@Mgn-12 жыл бұрын
‘A proyect from a first year first semester student’ that was harsh, I was 🤭, the back end isn’t that bad but yeah the front is a mix of Toyota, Audi and Ferrari design languages blended together, and comparing it to Roz from Monsters Inc… You were truly outraged haha
@webagent902 жыл бұрын
That one off crap is just a F12 with a new bodykit.
@fenrirslip2 жыл бұрын
I honestly like the design of the BR20 and the redesign is also really cool as well. I've come to notice that when Ferrari does one off cars, the design is based on the customer's vision of what they want the car to look like and over the years a lot of these one offs have a rather aggressive design like the Ferrari P80/C. Yes I know that car is meant to be a track machine as it's not road legal, but take the AM Victor for example as it is a street legal/track monster, yet in my opinion I wouldn't immediately identify it as an AM. It has AM design cues but it doesn't have the typical AM design. My point is that more often than not, one off Ferraris are not always going to have a beautiful design since the customer contributes to the design in some way regardless of what the brand's design language consists of.
@A63-k8f2 жыл бұрын
Your redesign is just so awesome man
@fizzcarreviews79972 жыл бұрын
Your nostalgia got in the way. That’s what happened
@sebastianpujo72662 жыл бұрын
This one and F12 looks like Bart and Hugo! 😁 Roma lines couldn't be more exquisite..sooo beautiful..but the front grill looks a 5yo child design. Great video! Keep on 👍
@muhammadfirmansyahdwiputra2 жыл бұрын
from this channel i learn more about design of the car the curve, body line, shave of the car and that was important thing to make it seamless and connect every single line and shape
@vorpalinferno97112 жыл бұрын
5:07 Even the cat understood the simple lines and elegance.
@A_Planner_and_a_Dreamer2 жыл бұрын
And really the Roma is super beautiful from the back and side profiles until you rotate it to the front, and my god the front of the Roma is SUPER ATROCIOUS to put it lightly! The shape and spacing of those headlights along with that awful looking grill are just frustratingly terrible. The car is really amazing until you view the front graphics and they just kill the desire to chase a Roma.
@faustinoeldelbarrio89672 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how can I find the video with the freehand sketches from 12:27?
@DeltaShadow-no9to2 жыл бұрын
For one-off it is acceptable to break the rules. It must stay in history. Something like "remember that angry Ferrari of 2021?". Retro styling of 2003 NFS Underground is okay for me. Just for one-off. Just to be special. Like Ferrari FX for Brunei Sultan - that was not made in Ferrari design language but rested special and unique.
@gumowy152 жыл бұрын
Me: wow, this car looks pretty good Sketch Monkey: this is a bad design Me: yeah, is ugly AF
@keithjackson49852 жыл бұрын
Dude, love your opinions on every vehicle you assess. Well done!
@mihirbhat67412 жыл бұрын
I felt this when I saw the 812 and searched for this video. When you look at Ferrari's past, you realise that the ferrari designers of today are pretty confused.
@CAPSTONE.2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha the comparison got my dieing 🤣🤣🤣 this whole car is just 🤣
@valentinilie15602 жыл бұрын
Ferrari Portofino M is the most beautiful model of the last years. Ferrari fail with the design of last models. Lamborghini are smart, few models and good looking cars.
@paullawrence66062 жыл бұрын
Way big improvement. It would be nice to see the black eye liner in the headlights converted to DRL 3D light piping.
@elcrack33432 жыл бұрын
0:59 this is the most accurate part in the whole video
@DexBunny2 жыл бұрын
I actually really like the side profile of the BR20, the front not so much. If the read in the side profile didn't have that every busy bumper it would genuinely resemble a speedtail and I love that.
@itsgerardchin2 жыл бұрын
wow... we can sense your anger... actual anger...
@jasongarey83292 жыл бұрын
My guess is it was designed "by committee." That's the surest way to foul things up.
@nikahadasart32072 жыл бұрын
Your car drawing is something amazing, Its my dream to draw like this, thank you for sharing
@daftpunkin59122 жыл бұрын
The front of this car looks like a frs lol
@OmarDenarzi2 жыл бұрын
You didn't just made it beautiful but very gorgeous, Now am going to wait for you to redesign the rear end
@mista4142 жыл бұрын
That 296 GTB is beautiful, hadn't seen it before.
@digiNanok2 жыл бұрын
That side view looks like a modern Marcos Mantis M70 hahahah
@93ksj2 жыл бұрын
Made it soo much better wow great work
@AnkitYadav-rf3zq2 жыл бұрын
People who would buy this car thet don't have any problem with this design just you have problems ,and one of the main reason why people buy this car is that aggressive line and that Ferrari face design , limited Ferrari
@michaelgakanga2 жыл бұрын
When Ferrari looks at a BRZ and goes "hmm". Gimme 3 months
@radwi692 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, just being an outside admirer of Italian Exoticas! Reading carefully through different comments down below, I am disappointed. Ferrari, being the brand and firm they are should not have bow at all to temptations!
@RyeitOut2 жыл бұрын
The Ferrari 550 Maranello was my favorite and I still like that design!
@hungnguyenle35902 жыл бұрын
I'm still not sure about that square-ish front end though. I wish it could have been tighter, rounder and less blocky
@michaillohdalpetersen31772 жыл бұрын
wich program are you using
@napalmtec2 жыл бұрын
You fix it very well - so now you have to get it to the production Draghistan. :D
@joebates6402 жыл бұрын
Put an Aston Martin badge on it and I think it would go quite well, because it kind of reminds me of that from their Zagato cars of the past
@Leto_II2 жыл бұрын
On the defence of Ferrari the BR20 is a special project so it was designed to liking of that particular client, I agree that it doesn’t look elegant or graceful but still looks good.
@Cane3062 жыл бұрын
Your front/side view of the Roma would look great on a T-shirt!
@NoxiousPond2 жыл бұрын
You didn’t need to touch the headlights. They were fine. The redesign headlights don’t even match up. Other than that I will say it looks MUCH better.
@damianhans54632 жыл бұрын
And lastly I think that the claymodellers used an previously used model then added on clay.
@sergeantromanovklov43782 жыл бұрын
his redesign is so much better
@anoopmathew822 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% on front end details make it look like Roz from Monsters Inc. Cannot be unseen now lol. But yes bigger problem is the proportions. It doesn't allow the hip curves space to follow. Almost like a person who may be 6' tall but whos legs are very short but have a very long torso. Instead bringing the rear wheel arch forward a bit and starting the hips/tail earlier will give it a more compact torso look that gives it a more elegant look.
@raymonds74922 жыл бұрын
Crazy how every time they remake the California it gets uglier.
@klaimster31842 жыл бұрын
Marouane, what ever happened to doing the car reviews in person? Idk if I missed the info on a previous video or something.
@s3p4kner2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more, the words you've used to describe Ferrari have been absent for years and I've not aspired to own any of their vehicles for decades. Call Ferrari what you will, but you won't call them timeless, elegant, graceful. IMO the last vehicle that could have been called these things was the 456, and since then they've been trying too hard to shout 'look at me' or like they popped out of a jelly mould.
@manojdamala31112 жыл бұрын
Yeah, doesn't seem like a ferrari, i agree with everything you said. I like the redesign of the front, should've redesigned the side & rear as well.
@h2wr2 жыл бұрын
It looks horrendous
@exoticdriver842 жыл бұрын
If Subaru and Ferrari together made a BRZ...
@duckmintNZ2 жыл бұрын
Please have a look at restyling the new Acura Integra. It doesn't look anything like it's lineage
@shanebowen52672 жыл бұрын
This actually surprised me 😮 😲
@claudiakramer45162 жыл бұрын
You are correct. Even premium brands are now giving us less quality per dollar. Across sectors they are planning even more obsoletion
@phenic57612 жыл бұрын
Sketch Monkey: Lets redesign the BR20 what he meant: lets make a new version of the 550 maranello
@1point5212 жыл бұрын
It looks like if Mansory got a hold of a GTC4Lusso
@oscararverud85652 жыл бұрын
That front end is so much better after your redesign👌
@dengodesign95112 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@ilkkasorsa97782 жыл бұрын
This redesign is good. Original front end looks like some cheap Peugeot. Cheap in the sense of cheap that is implemented usually in cars trying to look like they are more expensive than their actual price bracket.
@fernandezadrian63572 жыл бұрын
Honestly don't like the design either but... Going back to the 458 for the athousand time feels like a lot, even Pininfarina made questionable one offs in the 60s and 70s yet no one is bashing them for it. The Ferrari Omologata is a beautiful one off, it's not that Ferrari doesn't know how to design anymore, this design compared to the Omologata goes to show that different clients have DIFFERENT TASTES. You can't ask a client to change his idea just cause it doesn't look like the Roma or the 458. Even Lambo has made some Terrible One-Offs in the past few years yet I don't see anyone complaining.
@HIMANSHUJSBH52QPSF2 жыл бұрын
I think Ferrari is calling you next to design their car.
@intocars_242 жыл бұрын
The redesign looks like a more beautiful Ferrari FF
@VaunShiz2 жыл бұрын
It looks more like a fan render than a actual Ferrari, what a confused design
@AmineKouki2 жыл бұрын
I curious about your opinion regarding the new SP3. I have mixed feeling about it. But love the rear view!
@slyzr842 жыл бұрын
I think there were just attempting to make a longer berlinetta
@nam.justin2 жыл бұрын
"The secretary from monsters inc." LOL
@BroVCam2 жыл бұрын
Wow! And why don't you work for any of these Brands! Good work! You did wonders with that new Integra too! You got my money! 🤣
@ascars55882 жыл бұрын
Totally agree "what happend to ferrari ? "
@AdjamiHichem2 жыл бұрын
This is not a design this is what we call an architecture
@KaranSharma-hm2ed2 жыл бұрын
Could you fix the new Acura Integra prototype pleaseee, I think some circular lights on that w/ a smaller grille (nsx inspired) could go a long way (love ur channel btw)
@m-cruiser88032 жыл бұрын
For me BR20 looks more like a Ferrari than the Roma to be honest. The Roma looks like something from a completely different brand - just a cheap looking sports car design like that from a GTA, looks like a copy of Aston Martin DB11(which btw is far off classic Aston Martin elegance either). However you are totally right, they are lost at their design language as for now.
@damianhans54632 жыл бұрын
I think the designer didn't use the KISS formula.
@fitz25892 жыл бұрын
Maybe the v12 is what is making the wheelbase so long. Either way their front engine cars look too much like C7 Corvettes
@2007ghettonissanaltima2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion I really like the original. But your design made it even better.
@GasMaskReacts2 жыл бұрын
rather have the br20. the roma is beautiful, but way too simplified. it isn't very exciting at all. it doesn't look like a ferrari at all. actually, it's the front fascia i don't like on the roma. over simplified.
@irvingontiver56272 жыл бұрын
So, Ferrari design a BMW 2 series coupe? 😅 Excellent video
@goatgoat99402 жыл бұрын
If you don't understand the aerodynamics of a car, don't touch it or call it "bad"....... Functionality always goes over look and this counts more and more the more time passes
@G59METH2 жыл бұрын
I would've stopped at 13:39
@eastwoodsamuel42 жыл бұрын
From the side view, the front (headlights) looks like AMG One.
@bucketslash112 жыл бұрын
can you do a video on the Alfa Romeo 8C Competitzione? arguably one of the most beautiful cars ever made (maybe on your 2nd channel?)