What's HAPPENING to the All Blacks in the final quarter? | The Breakdown, September 22, 2024

The Breakdown crew discuss the opening Bledisloe Cup clash and look at Argentina's thrilling win over South Africa to keep their Rugby Championship hopes alive.
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[@amcmartin]

The last quarter performance against Australia was a real concern. The ABs faded faster than my marriage.

[@GGRUGBY]

:D hahaha

[@RugbyLover86]

Nah g nothing to worry bout they just stopped playing cuz they felt sorry for Aussie lol

[@GGRUGBY]

@@RugbyLover86 maybe :D

[@StevenCarter-u1o]

the myth that any team should control the last 20 minutes isI. To see. Teams are as fit as each other , multiple substitutions etc and the number of tests teams play. Go Argentina too

[@mikescudder4621]

@@RugbyLover86 What does that say about this blokes marriage?!

[@TheBarilo81]

To us (argentinian) reading the graph "ARGENTINA KEEP TITLE HOPES ALIVE, WITH WIN OVER THE BOKS" is just like an Interstellar movie, such incredible and beyond logic scenario but after all these years we probe doubters we belong to compete the Rugby Championship, wins over the BIG 3 at the same tournament is an incredible achievement.

[@AB_Sanj]

The 2nd half issue has been coming along for the last few years, and was probably unnoticed. Just think about Bledisloe in Melbourne, the Draw against England, RWC final.. All games where we had a lead and struggled to close the game off. Razor has a tough job of fixing these issues, that stemmed long before he started. One step at a time as we are off to great starts now and holding off Australia in the last 10 should give us some confidence. As we failed against South Africa. We are definitely getting better.

[@DrissZyani-bu5mo]

The same problems continue : ill discipline, last 20 minutes, poor bench . What does Razor and his staff coaching do seriously ? Razor must review this with Wayne smith !

[@GGRUGBY]

I think Razor needs some time

[@philliproberts7294]

Wayne Smith needs to take over

[@petewisdom1984]

​@GGRUGBY sure but shouldn't there be signs of progress or change at some point in the season?

[@GGRUGBY]

sometimes it takes longer than we expect

[@icefarrow7959]

You'd have thought NZR would learn from the whole Ian Foster debacle. If you bring in an inexperienced coach, you need to surround them with experience. Foster only became good when Schmidt was around to help steer him.

[@mierypesado6740]

Great show. Taylah is a good addition, very knowledgable and the host knows how to push buttons and keep it fun. Thanks for sharing!

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

All Blacks, as a team have been steadily going downhill for some time.

[@GGRUGBY]

It happens when great players retire but all blacks will get better im sure

[@stevetipene3319]

school rugby has been dead for years ....this will flow through very soon

[@Balance-v8x]

Yip, but they are in denial blaming coaches when NZRU should look at themselves. Sure, coaches contribute because they have a philosophy of winning at all cost, but nobody is courageous enough to acknowledge and address the constant downward trend since 2015 that is indicative of major systemic issues. For a small players base and foundation, and competing sports such as soccer, NRL and basketball, rugby union in tiny NZ is in trouble. A win against the Wallabies will unfortunately now feed that complacency and the egos of administration. But eh, blame is always out there, isn't it, never under the nose?

[@GGRUGBY]

@@stevetipene3319 yea you are right for example in South Africa School rugby is in the prime right now they are developing beasts there

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Unfortunately, it also reflects the state of NZ as a whole.Since Jacinda Adern and covid, NZ has never been the same.

[@mikeneemia3678]

Last 20mins no general on the field to calm the boys down or give direction.

[@rawiniagabolinscy4910]

Totally agree with you! Where was Scott Barrett the captain to settle the team when they needed leadership!!!!

[@joethecrow6451]

Taylor is spot on its about physicality. The Boks the French all the teams have huge men

[@philliproberts7294]

@@joethecrow6451 yes very big men I wonder why they are so muscular ?? The Ireland and England Arggies are just as muscular The All blacks body shape isn't like them I wonder what's going on

[@ashinch0r]

One of the biggest issues we have been hurt from in the second half is that our kicking turns to crap.

[@Dilmahkana]

We stop playing, we try 'close the game'. Meaning: kick = territory; hit up phases = predictability, potential for penalties and turnovers ; trying to balance that *while* some are trying to play isn't coherent. Also, in the SA and Arg and Aus game the opposition get better and fix mistakes in the second half so we have less opportunities

[@alan9510]

Mils was spot on. The AB's get zero confidence out of this. Ex the first 20 minutes we were TOTALLY impotent!

[@HarleyButler]

Great show tonight! Tayler, great perspective. Looking fwd to some subtle changes this week.

[@Honeygooyumy69]

AND THAT COMES DOWN TOO MENTAL TOUGNESS AND FORTITUDE

[@arthurknoxx]

South Africa at home will put on their full strength side for thise last game VS Argentina. I am expecting them to bounce back extremely hard

[@christiancatley4120]

Good stuff, No John Kirwan

[@Mo-yd8xc]

Kirstie is cute. I only watch this show for her and Mils' objectivity. Thank God Wilson & Kirwan are there today.

[@khairilhafizi]

Riley Higgin has been fantastic in NPC this season. Get him as JB injury covers!

[@Knowyourintent]

That was my first thought too. Couldn't believe the comment that no one from the NPC is putting their hand up. Obviously haven't watched many of the Lions' games. Hopefully get more game time with Hurricanes next season with Jordie not there. I'm a big fan, as is James Parsons.

[@fiddledeedee6970]

We just don't have the players currently. Look at our world cup winning teams, great players galore. Now maybe 4-5 top players

[@TeToa-ux5oc]

We have more to show Start blooding players like Sititi, Cortez, young Noah Hotham, got four years XV will see lot more Talent.

[@Edgycoo]

should be fine when roigard comes back and carlos spencers son is in the mix

[@EGM534]

We have some great players. Look at the Blues pack. Dominate everyone this year and the only one that makes the team is Razors guy from Canterbury? Sus. Jason Ryan needs to get over himself and pick Hoskins for the bench impact guy. And Ricky should be there above Aumua, how many times do we need to lose lineouts with him before he gets the chop back to npc to learn his most basic role

[@Edgycoo]

@@EGM534 so what blues forwards would you have in place of which current players

[@EGM534]

​@@Edgycoo I'd put Hoskins on the bench over Jacobson, Ricky on the bench over Aumua untill Samisoni is back. I'd start Dalton, not sure what he's been dropped for. And I'd Telea ahead of Reece of they're playing Jordan at 15

[@redneckReno]

wattabout Umaga Jensen at center?

[@RugbyLover86]

Too slow bro should move to prop

[@casscassy9174]

I don’t think any of these top ranked teams are too far off each other. Saying that, when a team can’t produce in the latter parts of the game, it often comes down to the Conditioning Coaches and other Coaching staff. At the moment the AB’s just don’t have it in the Tank. Saturday’s game against Australia proved it beyond doubt.

[@Dilmahkana]

I think that in the first half we are primarily capatilising on opponents' mistakes and their lack of possession (not us playing particularly well, them well playing average or messily). And in the second half, opponents' mistakes are reduced and the opponents have more possession than the first half (and create more pressure). Happen against SA and Arg and Aus games.

[@coreyv8150]

We don't have a pack like England or SA... nonsense. In Cape Town, there was only 10 kgs between us and SA in pack weight, in SA's favour. That's negligible in top rugby. We need more mongrel.

[@KernowekTim]

Aye. Very true words. Only a couple of the forwards have the "feral" in them. Shame about Liam, he had bloody heaps. Mind you, he hunts wild boar for a past-time!

[@Damudean]

Rotellick was special but not the first. Did you forget about the Legend? Colin Meads?

[@KernowekTim]

👍So true.

[@ObiePaddles]

It’s been a worry since before this season. Remember the last gasp draw against England a few years back? I thought surely we can stop the rot with a 14 point lead in the last 5-10 mins…but no. We are finding ways to lose from winning positions. Hopefully we retain the winning positions bit of the games and then shore it up a bit.

[@multipletanksyndrome]

Good to see them kicking for the corner, than settling for penalties.

[@Todd63790]

Agree with the comment's about Makenzie time to bring in Plummer

[@Formakiwi]

Two kiwi coaches Joe should aim to add to his staff: Wayne Pivac and Kieran Crowley. Both have coached abroad in Europe, and both have a track record of building from a low base to bring previously underperforming sides to New levels. Both of their last appointments (Pivac's mutiny-plagued tenure with Wales, and Crowley's uneven stint qt Italy) ended disappointingly, but both deserve a shot a redemption, as do the Wallabies.

[@ciaranbrk]

Shout Africa is one of the best teams they aren’t the best. The top three are all capable of beating each other.

[@pikohemara2743]

These final quarters from the ABs are alarming! Yellow cards, poor decisions, kicking the ball away instead of holding that damn thing. Need those captains to keep the squad on the same page and stay tight. Hopefully something that gets sorted by the end of the year let’s hope 🙏🏽

[@EGM534]

Straight up need more Blues guys in the team. Look how they preform under pressure. The most pressure game they pumped the Chiefs who were somehow coming in as favourites after smacking the Canes at home. Get Papalii in starting, get Hos on the bench and get Ricky on the bench. Aumua can go vack to npc and learn how to throw

[@mysoap23]

The blues play like south africa

[@Mysterx1440]

Aumua needs to learn how to tackle

[@Damudean]

Really, Cane didn’t get the tackles simply because the Aussies ran different lines from where Cane is based in the defense. That had nothing to do with his ability. Especially as he is usually the no 1 tackler

[@nm86484]

Cane sucks mate

[@Damudean]

@@nm86484 what’s your opinion got to do with how the tackle count was different than the last 3 games?

[@AlanOReilly-g7o]

End of year tour ..... some tough lessons .... hopefully not too tough .....

[@NathanAAASmith]

Really thought AB’s were gonna run away with it, they were scoring at a point a minute in 1st half.

[@mikescudder4621]

Give Sam his 100th. He deserves it...

[@nm86484]

Sam sucks mate

[@mikescudder4621]

@@nm86484 Thats your perception but the stats don't lie mate and Razor isn't an idiot - or is he?

[@clearwater3432]

Taylah's spot on 👏🏽

[@will_274]

They won. It’s all about the W

[@Honeygooyumy69]

TRIED TO KEEP MY FINGERS SHACKLED ..THEY ESCAPE ARTIST OBVIOUSLY

[@chrisconwayphotography]

#1 takeaway - patience!!! It’s going to take time to come right. It would be great if all the bandwagon fans could restrain themselves from slagging the ABs during this rebuild. Back Black!,

[@michaelironside8707]

Final quarter??? It's the whole 2nd half.

[@Cookiemonster-y9l]

Leave McKenzie alone he's the best player nz had his accurate kicking for goals is the best we seen 😊

[@christiancatley4120]

lol

[@nm86484]

D mac sucks mate

[@DrDee01]

No mate, he is not the best player NZ has. he is not a natural 10. Sugarcoat it however you wish but after so many games he still won't get his outsides involved in the game. He initiates great moves but is struggling to get others involved. he thrives more on individual brilliance which works better if he comes off the bench when much of the opposition players are tiring. Starting at 10? Hell no. It is not working for the ABs.

[@michaeljcalleja]

Looooool

[@ashinch0r]

Nah Dmac is ok with his kicking, but the AB kicking game has not been great for a long while now

[@jean-pierrekotze5846]

I think Caleb is good at 11 but believe he will be like Nonu and Umaga at 12.

[@ericchow9694]

I agree, they need to trial him in the mid field.

[@joshua.productions]

Oh that’d actually be cool

[@mikeneemia3678]

@jean-pierrekotze5846 I have thought that but he hasn't shown ball skills for that role. AJ Lam has put up his hand to play there for the Blues and has shown potential. Even the Umaga-Jensen brothers.

[@KernowekTim]

Been saying that for the last two years. That bloke on 'The Black Jersey' N Z YT channel scoffed at me, but more and more folks're coming around to using Caleb at 12.

[@KernowekTim]

@@mikeneemia3678 I agree. However, if he works on that, and his kicking game, he'd go good at 12. Ma'a had to work hard on things before he owned the 12 jersey.

[@davidpeters3857]

Excellent content

[@LachieSamuel]

Miss a really powerful first 5, 12 and centre

[@antonypaterson2051]

The primary reasons for NZ being a mess in the last 20 minutes is twofold . One is an old problem of shooting themselves in the foot with yellow card indiscipline. It puts the team under so much pressure not just with the opposing team that gets a boost but also the referee ! The other reason is the bench players being ineffective . But as they are firefighting when they come on, due to the yellow cards it’s not surprising they struggle with the added pressure!

[@normanharris6023]

Every SA documentary, interview and talking point of out of that camp oozes 'team first'. They have bought into the end result and not the who is getting them there. Wither their bomb squad or the guys who start, it just seems like they have collectively put the team priority one, two and three. When you listen to these NZ analysts, they are almost afraid to say the words.... 'come off the bench'.... as if it is the curse or it comes with a certain negative connotation...? Its either the ABs dont have the horses or their once invincible 'run the opponent to death' doesn't work cause the better teams have that deep bench that come in that 60th minute .... so.... their game plan simply needs to change. All that, I am still 100 behind the ABs, until they play my humble Island Kingdom..... Ts up...!!

[@Terminox234]

The players that get benched need to be prioritized. Tell them to go 101% till the bench comes on and does the same. Rieko had a good game but the bled is tucked away now. Jordie out injured so Id play Havili and Proctor. On the bench have Taylor, De Groot, Tosi, Vaai, Papalii, hotham, Clarke, Dmac. Start plummer, darry, Rieko to wing. Australia after that effort are going to throw the kitchen sink. Good experience for the new guns

[@STEOKEO]

You lot are giving the coaching ticket and playing group an easy ride in the media.

[@richposports7030]

That is entirely possible. About to listen...

[@richposports7030]

Ability to close out the game....confidence issue...tries given away by Aussies...I think the panel called it fairly enough.

[@BraziwiSteve]

Start the younger guys and finish with experience- you’re welcome 😊

[@GGRUGBY]

All Blacks was always good under pressure now its changed

[@RugbyLover86]

They stop playing after 60 cuz they feel sorry for the opposition bro they gotta save energy for when the face the mighty Irishbthe true RWC champs bro

[@geoffhughes225]

Na, we have has teams collapse and lose a winning game several times in the past

[@samueljacques250]

Nice play

[@Rangis_Patch]

the ends of the matches are abit dodgy, but im happy with their performances over all. plenty for razor to work with, 💪

[@ChaturakaGunatilaka]

I've been an All Blacks supporter since 2003, and honestly, this is the worst performance I've seen from my ABs. I've seen us lose several matches, but this was as ugly as it gets and still feels like a test we lost. I’m glad we chose the Wallabies to showcase such a horrible performance because had it been the Boks, they would have put 50 points on us. Once again, no points in the last quarter and a yellow card in the final 10 minutes. Aren't they playing for the ABs? There used to be so much pride in wearing that jersey, but it doesn't feel like that anymore. Come on, guys... I flew from Brisbane to Sydney just to watch this match. You should do better 😟

[@sonyafacetickles]

Lack of leadership. Scott Barrett is fast becoming the Reuben Thorne of this generation. Don’t make Ardie the Tana and make him become captain when he’s past his prime.

[@poerava]

Taylah’s feedback is horrible. DMac has played brilliantly as 10. What is she talking about?

[@Knowyourintent]

Couldn't agree more. I normally like her opinions but thought tonight she way off.

[@theulsterexpat]

did he answer the last rounds question of whether Ireland are better than the all blacks atm? ;-)

[@0onsk_ttv291]

Love this show just dont appreciate how Kirsty goes about certain wording

[@blackace001]

❤

[@asanelenjongo4593]

Sam is not cut for test level its been proven over and over. A call to sotutu should be ringing already

[@eugenegerber5805]

Super Rugby bench tactics don't work in test rugby, pressure and fatigue leads to penalties. Its not rocket science..

[@JHPT-CPT]

All I’m saying is the Wellington Curse

[@jelairefitzgerald2280]

Brodie!! Straight chiefs mana all black legend!! That was a true forward pack of specialists!! That’s why they won 2015 RWC!How fast our coaches forget that pack!! Joe Moody Dane Coles Owen Franks Brodie Retallick Sam Whitelock Jerome Kaino Richie McCaw (C) Kieran Read How about 2011? There was never questions about who plays where? 1. Tony Woodcock 2. Keven Mealamu 3. Owen Franks 4. Brad Thorn 5. Samuel Whitelock 6. Jerome Kaino 7. Richie McCaw - captain 8. Kieran Read

[@PeterPehi]

WOW. GOOD. GAME. 🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖

[@MaxPowers1245]

drinking out of that cup looks like a real good way to get sick

[@Mysterx1440]

Don't choke on your soy milk mate

[@MaxPowers1245]

@@Mysterx1440 gee mate how hard are you ? I’m impressed.

[@ivandeetlefs]

Very little chance that Argentina can win the championship. They’ll have to beat the boks with a record score.

[@Honeygooyumy69]

DONT NEED TO ASSUME ..YOU WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I AM THINKING ..SAVES WASTED ENERGY OF ASSUMATION ..EFFICENCY

[@guru.inc2000]

Still don't think Mckenzie's test 10 yet, his passing which led to 3 no tries, execution, Jordon is a test winger, I'd rather have Barrett at the back, however time will tell.

[@geoffhughes225]

You are aware Barrett was omitted becuof illness, so Jordan was positioned there last minute. Agree he is better at wing

[@Honeygooyumy69]

GETTING DESPERATE BUT I UNDERSTAND WELLDONE

[@ciaranbrk]

It’s just wrong seeing Isaac in black as an Irish man 😂

[@petasmith6258]

It's the Steve Hansen effect. Too many "Superstars" shoe-horned into the team at the expense of cohesion & performance. Started with Shag's obsession with SBW & Beauden Barrett. He just had to have them in & the losses started to accumulate. When we were nigh invincible, only Ben Smith was played out of position (wing instead of fullback at the Highlanders). Now (for a long time), we have Ardie who spent the formative years of his professional career at 7 playing 8 (no knock on Ardie, he's the man, but not an 8), locks at 6, 6's at lock & just about the entire backline is a mess. Jordie was a fantastic 12 at Junior level, but spent so long at fullback, he's lost his instincts now he's back at 12. The (potentially, could have been our best winger ever) world's best winger who has absolutely no natural/historical instincts for the position, at centre (Reiko). Not to mention Beauden's ego ruining Mo'unga & now cramping McKenzie. Beauden is a shell of himself due to all his head-knocks (not a knock on previous performances, guy was awesome but time is done). And then the passengers, Tu'ungafasi should count himself lucky to be a reserve for Northland…not for the AB's, guy is hopeless…plus a few others…rant over...

[@icefarrow7959]

Dumbest and most inaccurate rant I've read in a long time.

[@mierypesado6740]

"Beauden is a shell of himself due to all his head-knocks" - mind elaborating?

[@PeterPehi]

WOW. 🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖🌖

[@AnthonyPigou]

There seems to be a leadership problem in this All Black team, Scott Robertson should consider making Ardie Savia captain, he has done very well as captain before ie the world cup.

[@braydeny]

It's a real project that he's not captain. The mana has been lost and confusion has set in.

[@icefarrow7959]

Ardie has a history of making poor decisions as captain. His decision making cost us the 2023 RWC final. Have you forgotten how many times we kicked for the corner instead of taking the 3? Graham Henry literally was interviewed pre-match, and he said when facing the Springboks you always take the 3.

[@AnthonyPigou]

@@icefarrow7959 Hi if my memory is still working then i believe that the all blacks were playing more than half the match with only 14 players. regards from a kiwi living in Sweden.

[@erichaskell]

Heck, tthe ABs started failing in the second quarter. Tall about poor ball handling sskills.

[@peteredwards62]

The NZ rugby championship, played 5 won 2, I agree Isaac Boss the Aussies were dreadful in the first half and they still could have won the game. All blacks were dreadful only a shadow of their former selves like the panel they are all over the place, blame the coach that didn’t work did it, the decline has been there for everyone to see, get back to basics, Rugby is a simple game we need a strong All Blacks team it’s a hard watch in recent years.

[@Honeygooyumy69]

THATS IT SMALL MANS SYNDEOME

[@tayltv01]

All Blacks were dominant, and are no longer. We used to kick for line outs every single time, and we no longer do. We have no faith in our forwards. It started when Super Rugby excluded SA teams. The players don’t understand the greater game anymore. They understand the local game and Australia, but that’s it. It’s only going to get worse.

[@kapilatw]

AB need more challenging young blood in pipelines to keep pushing the seniors.....unfortunately being cornered with super rugby is NOT helping the AB or AUS pipelines..... and soon Fiji, Samoa will find a glass ceiling being at super rugby..

[@tjt6999]

I thought the All blacks was going down hill, and it looks like they are Stillll going down hill

[@RugbyLover86]

Ireland the real RWC champs bro give them credit

[@PENIJAMINITABUA-k8q]

They only good for test match work up they get blown away

[@RugbyLover86]

@@PENIJAMINITABUA-k8q show them respect g your jealous lol

[@mierypesado6740]

nah g southland stags 2027 champs put some respek on the name

[@janetihaka799]

Our coach and captain are not up for the job. The captain needs to talk to his team,calm them down ,keep talking even if he barks orders,but nothing ,absolutely nothing,.Razor needs to go back to super rugby he doesn’t have the experience to coach at this level. We definitely have the talent but not the coaching ability. Perhaps he needs to talk to FOZZIE seek help from the most abused ABS COACH EVER. We the rugby public need to seriously apologise to FOZZIE.

[@blaisebuilda564]

Taylor's spot on we need to be more physical we've lost our fear factor too much respect for other teams eg south africa we need to start bashing them and getting our respect back there soft like Charmin anyway 😂

[@BxLgaming7974]

They didn’t play well and still won p

[@ericchow9694]

All Blacks need a whole new game. All this "free flowing" game doesn't work anymore.

[@robertosalsone5655]

Outdated, agree with your opinion

[@leodibarboure7603]

The worst AB and the worst Wallabies ever...a nightmare

[@gj7392]

These are obviously nice people who know about the technical aspects of rugby but someone please introduce them to the basic maths of markets. The salary cap, if complied with, of French teams is euro8.5m and additional payments come from central authorities. The Irish teams are not far off that. The money, better coaching, better S&C are all in the Northern Hemisphere. NZ and Aus teams need to align the season to the Nothern Hemisphere and select their OS players and be smart about OS options. E.g. allow players to play in France and pay 25% of their salary to have access to them for e.g. 8 games. NZ bench is weak because Richie, Brodie and others are OS and not selected. They will not be as good as teams that select OS players or teams that pay the most to domestic players like France and Ireland. Pretty simple stuff. These guys just parrot off the same thing every weak.

[@mierypesado6740]

But the counterpoint, how do you prevent the complete cratering of domestic NZ rugby once every single half decent provincial player heads to the North at 20 years old? Which over time will trickle down to a diminishing age-grade participation (already seeing it) and hurt the ABs

[@icefarrow7959]

You can't be serious. Do you know how many Southern Hemisphere coaches ply their trade in the North?

[@gj7392]

These issues asked and answered by South Africa. Game has never been stronger there. People want to play for their country, it also makes their contacts worth more as they draw more crowds. Could have a hybrid of x provincial / club games to qualify first.

[@gj7392]

Or you do what they have done more recently and switch to URC and change the season dates.

[@gj7392]

@@icefarrow7959A non point as they are doing it in more professional environments with higher standards

[@glenndouglas.T]

The final 20mins come down to coaching tactics and on field leadership and the #10 game managment - ATM the ABs are lacking quality on those 3 points

[@starwarsjk99]

1. Ardie replaces Barrett as captain. 2. Raise up a young 10 to replace Damian 3. Razor fires more assistants, sticking to only those who have proven themselves at the crusaders.

[@icefarrow7959]

@@starwarsjk99 1 and 3 are silly. Ardie lacks the decision-making skills to be captain, and firing the current assistants would change nothing. He needs international experience in his team, and all of our coaches that think similarly to him and have it are overseas in cushy high-paid jobs already.

[@joshua.productions]

Ardie for captain!

[@napintasboli7939]

The wallabies fixed there defence last2-3rds game☺️ then All blacks didnt make changes to break them? Leader ship ideas lacking - have they got right captain vice🤔

[@lyellclare9365]

This All Black squad has a complete lack of leadership, effective game plan, discipline, Rugby IQ , fortitude, perseverance etc , all things that were once taught in our schools but now rarely even mentioned. The low rugby IQ quotas seem to be at the same level as our low ( we are now at the level of Cyprus ) education level. Also Football and Basketball have much higher levels of participation than rugby. We all know why but no one talks about it.

[@AngusRobert]

I don’t know why, can you elaborate?

[@edmond435]

caleb clark at centre Reiko on wing

[@fractalnomics]

Homogenisation of the game; the world's caught up

[@TWOVO1]

The AB last 20mins performance got to be on the coaches. Game strategy and plan till the last whistle, what is embedded in the players mind set? To play their best for 60 mins only or to endure till it’s over.

[@gregwaghorn8496]

DMAC is a bench player. Bring him on with 20 min to go. Start BB at 10, Clark at 13, Reiko 11

[@Mysterx1440]

Yeh Clark at 13 because of all the experience he has playing in that hardest backline position 😂

[@Honeygooyumy69]

REOCCURING PATTERN

[@Honeygooyumy69]

YOU PHARKERS NO I HAVE NO SHAME ..SPADE IS A SPADE AND NOTHING BUT A SPADE

[@Mako-V]

But a female can be a male and vice versa 🤷

[@tonymadden9021]

McKenzies pass wasn’t forward. That was a try

[@Hammer-t1b]

hello

[@andrewharris1837]

One solution is to start with Barrett at fly half,and Blackadder as Captain then bring on Sam for final 20 to start laying the law down😊

[@MataiJamesTurner-wi4gk]

hi

[@kelscharmers11]

I’ll never understand Scott Barrett as the captain. Coming from a wallabies fan. He is not cut out for this level of rugby sadly.

[@IrwinJacobus-z5u]

As an All Black fan I would never make him captain

[@ronniethompson7464]

Get another ten not Barrett

[@Damudean]

Argentina can’t win the cup. What are they talking about?

[@fidget2020]

14 + 5 for the win + 1 BP = 20. They CAN win. Tough assignment, but they can do it, mathematically.

[@Damudean]

It’s 4 for a win

[@fidget2020]

@@Damudean You’re quite right, my bad. Here’s the whole scoring scenario: The winner is determined by a points system: 4 points for a win 2 points for a draw 0 points for a loss "Bonus points" may also be earned in any given match and count toward deciding the series winner. A total of two bonus points can be possibly scored: The Attacking bonus point. Prior to 2016, a team could gain an attacking bonus point by scoring four or more tries in the match, regardless of the final result. From the 2016 competition onwards, this was modified so that an attacking bonus point is awarded if a team scores at least three tries more than their opponents. The Defending bonus point by losing by seven points (a converted try) or fewer. A victorious team can collect either 4 or 5 points, depending on whether or not it gained an attacking bonus point. A team that draws can collect either 2 or 3 points, depending on whether or not it gained an attacking bonus point. A losing team may collect from 0 to 2 points. At the end of the series the team with the most points is declared the winner. If teams end level on points for any position, the first tiebreaker is total number of wins in the competition, then number of wins against the other team/s tied on points, then overall points differential, then points differential between the team/s tied on points, then most tries scored in the competition. If that can't differentiate the team, the series or position will be shared

[@Damudean]

@@fidget2020 I’m wrong then Argentina only need to win with a bonus point.

[@Honeygooyumy69]

THEN ITS A MONGREL THING