What's inside? Behringer Spring Reverberation 636 teardown and sound examples

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russian corvette

russian corvette

Күн бұрын

A short jam and a look inside the Behringer Spring Reverberation 636 to see what the spring tank looks like. Spoiler alert: In the process I discovered one of the small springs suspending the tank itself was not fitted correctly. So in the video you will also see how to fix this problem.
Another sidenote - the teardown was recorded before my previous video with sound examples was filmed. So rest assured the springs were actually fitted correctly in the first video and the audio you hear in that and in this video is the proper sound of the spring reverb.
0:00 - Intro Jam
1:30 - Teardown begins
4:35 - Removing the tank
8:07 - Conclusion
9:23 - Dry/Wet drum sounds
Here is the link to the first demo video I made of the unit:
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@RaquelFoster
@RaquelFoster Ай бұрын
It's really cool that you decided to open it up and noticed the spring needed attached! When I was in high school in the '90s I had a Fender Princeton Chorus with a big spring tank mounted to the cabinet, and as soon as you barely bumped it you'd hear the springs rattle. Honestly I didn't even know what the spring tank was I just tried not to bump it. Next time I get bored I'm gonna buy some Slinkys and do ... reverb research.
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Yeah Slinky reverb research sounds like fun! I am guitar player too and totally remember the sound of the spring rattle in my Marshall Valvestate 40V guitar amp I had as a kid. Old spring love never dies!
@jordanevo3
@jordanevo3 Ай бұрын
That is a very quiet spring reverb. Much more so than my Doepfer or Fender amp. I agree the panel/case size seems a bit bigger than necessary, and not sure what these sell for, but I’m definitely more intrigued than I was. Thanks for sharing.
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Glad you liked the video, thanks for watching! Yes quiet indeed - the most quiet spring reverb I have encountered yet.
@adognamedshinji
@adognamedshinji Ай бұрын
Sounds great! Love me some spring reverb
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad you like it!
@chupiconverge6034
@chupiconverge6034 27 күн бұрын
Amazing 😮
@matteonolli
@matteonolli 26 күн бұрын
Good review!
@ruscor
@ruscor 25 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@oldunclemick
@oldunclemick Ай бұрын
My first reverb unit was a Great British Spring Mk2. Two reverb tanks in a big 3 foot tube. Used to get a great thunder effect with a gentle kick!⚡ I sold it when the Alesis Microverb III came on the market. I can see why Behringer made this and why the original is a classic. If I recorded any type of dub music, I'd definitely get one.
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Just looked it up that thing looks wild! Could imagine it was good fun 😁
@dwb1980
@dwb1980 Ай бұрын
Sounds good 👍
@dwb1980
@dwb1980 Ай бұрын
A minor fault, fairly easy to correct. It could have happened during transportation. Do you think the tank could be changed? I used to own the vermona vr3 spring, sold it during a time I was skint. Fairly basic unit but good. Not sure how big the tank was but was sure it was the size of the unit, could be wrong. This one I think sounds better, quite a hot signal and no noise.
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
​@@dwb1980 The spring tank could probably be changed although you will likely have to make modifications to fit it. Never tried the Vermona spring reverbs myself but heard good things about them. Yes good sound and low noise for sure on the Behringer 636 for sure.
@aftertheendtimes
@aftertheendtimes Ай бұрын
Amazing intro song! =)
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Thank you! 😁🙏
@klstay
@klstay 26 күн бұрын
Personally I am not surprised at all to see a basically no name 2 spring miniature tank inside. Not complaining; they have to hit this price somehow. Would love to know input and output impedance; unsurprisingly NOT in their documentation. For well under $100 you could easily swap the 2 connectors for something to a 3 way switch on an external housing you cobble up housing a quality vertical short, medium, and long tank.
@FoundationStepper
@FoundationStepper Ай бұрын
Hi there, I enjoyed your 636 videos a lot. Thanks for letting me look inside your unit. I gave mine back to Thomann because of the shitty sound (in my opinion) bless up my friend
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Thanks and likewise! Was fun listening to some of the sounds you made with yours. Hope you find the right spring reverb unit for you.
@JACK-YOUR-BODY
@JACK-YOUR-BODY Ай бұрын
thx for the vid ..its good job you did open it find the fault to fix ..the corner spring you reattached was going underneath the other 3 if you look sat differently not sure if it would effect overall but just so you know.
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Thank you! Yes, I noticed this and corrected it before I assembled it again - I was just not filming at that point. I don't think the reverb sound would be affected by it, but it might make a small difference in acoustic isolation.
@CaptainAhorn
@CaptainAhorn 28 күн бұрын
You’ve been taking quite a beating lately!
@herberdth
@herberdth Ай бұрын
The spring used is a standard medium 2 spring tank at 9.25". What gave the 636 it's main characteristica was the germanium transistors in overdrive. Good for crappy reggae. Giving warmth and space to snares and guitars. I would have liked to see if the transistors were actually Germanium or just TL71 op-amps. Putting this inside a big eurorack would likely pick up a lot of noise, just keep it in the case.
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. This was quick look to check out the spring tank. Hopefully someone else will have a proper look to inspect the transistors. Agreed, will be keeping this in the case for sure.
@NTRSN-Archive
@NTRSN-Archive Ай бұрын
Sounds 👍
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Thanks! 🙏
@Guerrilla_OP
@Guerrilla_OP Ай бұрын
I've been interested in getting one of these. It seems like Behringer didn't make many so far. Hopefully they plan on making them more available. I like that they made it with the overdrive circuit.
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Yes, seems like they stayed true to the original with the preamp section. They probably had a lot of orders on this one but they will likely catch up with the demand soon.
@Guerrilla_OP
@Guerrilla_OP 29 күн бұрын
@@ruscor Due to the price, I'll probably buy 2. The preamp is the part that makes me most excited about it. I've been getting more and more interested in preamp saturation and "color". I love adding a bit of grit to my music.
@ruscor
@ruscor 28 күн бұрын
@@Guerrilla_OP Yes, preamp drive is a nice extra feature on this!
@reecedeyoung6595
@reecedeyoung6595 Ай бұрын
Twin peaks beat at the start
@JonMurray
@JonMurray Ай бұрын
Nice one man. Thanks for the tear down video. Did you notice a difference in performance/sound with the spring reattached out of interest?
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Thanks! No I didn't notice a difference. I don't think the reverb sound itself will be affected by it much but it will probably make the spring less isolated from outside acoustic vibrations.
@Subtronik
@Subtronik Ай бұрын
Did you notice any difference in sound quality after reattaching the suspension spring?
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
No not really. I don't think the reverb sound itself would be affected by it much. But it will likely make a difference in acoustic isolation from outside vibrations.
@harounel-poussah6936
@harounel-poussah6936 23 күн бұрын
LOL, I had the same spring verb on the 2nd guitar amp I built in 1987... Maybe you can mount a larger verb in the box: these small springs have really short verb time
@davelordy
@davelordy Ай бұрын
When you reattached the spring, you left the other end in the wrong position - if you look at the little hole where it's attached it should be on the left side (like all the other springs) not on the right (where you left it).
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Thanks for spotting that! I doubt it will make much of a difference but I will fix it for the ease of mind.
@danielzachary2488
@danielzachary2488 29 күн бұрын
Hey mate, enjoyed the video. Should get yourself a little set of dental tools for occasions like this, real handy for getting in tight spaces, fishing out things, getting little wires to go where they need to.
@ruscor
@ruscor 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@danielzachary2488
@danielzachary2488 29 күн бұрын
@@ruscor Hey no worries, thanks for the vid.
@user-yf7kz3pj5l
@user-yf7kz3pj5l Ай бұрын
if you have a splitter and want to get funky send one of the splitter's out to the aux in and get feedback.
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Wow, cool idea I have to try that. Thanks for the tip!
@lucianappleton1212
@lucianappleton1212 24 күн бұрын
I ordered one a while ago
@hulkslayer626
@hulkslayer626 Ай бұрын
Absolutely no reason that they made it 72hp instead of the standard 70hp like the Wasp/Cat/Model D. I also thought it would be because the springs had to be that long... smh
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Yep, strange choice. It was likely either to make it appear as the original (with the blank space on the left side of the front panel) or to get the string as far away from the power supply in order to keep the noise as low as possible. But I can't imagine how 2 HP of space would have made much of a difference either way.
@SomeOne-pd6vm
@SomeOne-pd6vm 29 күн бұрын
disappointing, because i would have loved to have a 2 tier stand with this and my wasp :P
@hulkslayer626
@hulkslayer626 29 күн бұрын
@SomeOne-pd6vm This, The Model D, The Wasp and The Cat all would have fit in a Behringer Go case... 😭
@ktreier
@ktreier 24 күн бұрын
Very weird choice.
@ktreier
@ktreier 24 күн бұрын
Typical Behringer quality (or lack of). I,ve had Model D, and Wasp with jammed Octave switches.
@TheChindogu
@TheChindogu Ай бұрын
the tank seems to be exact this one on Ebay Spring Reverb Tank Guitar AMP Amplifier Part 2 Springs TPSB2EB2C1B Medium Decay New £23.66
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Nice find! Yes, that looks like the one.
@angeldc54
@angeldc54 26 күн бұрын
Behringer (lack of) quality assurance doesn't disappoint.
@MrCrrispy
@MrCrrispy 25 күн бұрын
I like the soviet look
@l1fef0rm
@l1fef0rm 24 күн бұрын
Immediately reminds me Squarepusher's "Our Underwater Torch". I really do not like the Dreadbox spring tank, its sounds too "springy". I love the chorus/flange and delay, but that spring reverb sounds really bad to me.
@ruscor
@ruscor 24 күн бұрын
Nice, love me some Squarepusher! Lots of spring reverb on his tracks around that time. Yeah, the one thing I don't like about the Hypnosis is that the minimum value of pre-delay time of the reverb is 30ms. Not great for percussive sounds and beats because it gets messy sounding really fast.
@aseomg
@aseomg Ай бұрын
How to buy a Behringer product: Buy a DIY kit of the thing you're interested in, from whoever sells not named Behringer. Once fully asembled, take a marker & write Behringer on it...done. 😎
@symbiat0
@symbiat0 28 күн бұрын
Instead of mounting in a Eurorack case, it might be better in a 19” outboard rack instead… 🤔
@ruscor
@ruscor 28 күн бұрын
Yes, that would make sense. Unfortunately Behringer don't make any 72 HP compatible Eurorack Rack Brackets.
@symbiat0
@symbiat0 28 күн бұрын
@@ruscor True, but you could remount the 636 in a rack mountable case or use something like the Happy Ending Kit.
@ismaeletyl0
@ismaeletyl0 28 күн бұрын
it's this mono?
@ruscor
@ruscor 28 күн бұрын
Yes
@harmonicuniverse
@harmonicuniverse 29 күн бұрын
The tank is shorter, and that sounds shorter than a grampian. Dont know why they based it on the grampian as it sounds nothing like it. They didnt do anything in preamp to recreate the grampian sound either. Making it look similar doesnt make it sound similar.
@EchoReverb6
@EchoReverb6 27 күн бұрын
but this behringer sounds good to me
@sunnypedaal
@sunnypedaal 25 күн бұрын
I prefer the intelligel springreverb ,check it out
@ruscor
@ruscor 24 күн бұрын
Looks great and nice to be able to switch between 3 springs. Do you have one? It's another price range of course and there are no springs included, but Intellijel makes nice stuff - I have their Mixup mixer module.
@thetwlo
@thetwlo Ай бұрын
Not much of a teardown, would be nice to see the circuit board to see the parts used.
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
This was just quick look to check out the spring tank so hopefully someone else more tech-savvy than me can do a proper teardown and inspect the parts used.
@justcox
@justcox 25 күн бұрын
My monk mind would bring the little spring in the correct position like the other 3.
@ruscor
@ruscor 24 күн бұрын
Yes, someone else pointed this out and watching it back I can see it now. Rest assured I'll be correcting it asap :)
@Sycokay
@Sycokay Ай бұрын
Bought a spring reverb from Dreadbox a while ago...sounds as shitty as this one^^. Analog is not always better.
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Some people like the sound of springs reverb and some don't 🤷‍♂️
@l1fef0rm
@l1fef0rm 24 күн бұрын
@@ruscor One must be careful with spring reverb, it's all about subtlety. Never go full spring.
@MrMe4444444
@MrMe4444444 Ай бұрын
I was not impressed with the one in my grey 2600.
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
I have a Grey Meanie and I quite like the sound of the spring in it. Each to his own I guess.
@snorrevonflake
@snorrevonflake Ай бұрын
Not impressed - not sure why they did care to make this - waste of resources. I have a Carl Martin Headroom for Guitar and love the Erica Spring Reverb for Eurorack - can do lots of feedback sounds unlike this. The Doepfer is also nice fore the price. And both much smaller.
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
Yes the size of it is definitely a downside. The Erica Spring and Headroom sure seem like nice reverbs and more flexible too in terms of sounds.
@surrealchemist
@surrealchemist Ай бұрын
They just re-use these cases it seems, like its off the shelf for them and they stick some new knockoff in there. Seems like paint by numbers where they just look at the original and fill in the colors till its complete. Not much thought into adding features or how its going to be used. The panel even just has some of the aspects of the original but looks goofy with all the empty space.
@ruscor
@ruscor Ай бұрын
​@@surrealchemist Actually all their eurorack compatible synths are either 80 HP (Neutron, Pro-1) or 70 HP (Model-D, CAT) so this case is really an odd size at 72 HP. But yeah it seems like they're just cloning here instead of adding new features. It also seems like the blank space on the left side of the front panel is just there because the original has it. It might be the reason it's so big - to make it look more like the Grampian. I would have preferred some patch points instead.
@googledriver8795
@googledriver8795 25 күн бұрын
Behringer quality control is awful, would never buy any of their products.
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