What's JammiDodger Saying Now?

[@thumbsdownbandit]

“I’m not a vet but I know what a dog is.” - Kellie-Jay Keen

[@springwood1331]

Males and females recognise the other as such across a myriad of species. I guess it takes higher education qualifications to be incapable of doing so

[@Toastie19]

They’ll criticise Helen by saying she has no formal education on this topic yet they will frequently say “listen to trans people” and accept everything they’re saying. The vast majority of trans activists have no formal education in this either.

[@Roseyla]

And it was just the same from Jammie. I stopped trusting his "expertise" when I was still trans identified years ago now because it's all just words. We never hear anything about the research that supports their points other than "it exists."

[@LaizyDaisy]

@@RoseylaHER ‘expertise’ based on her own experience and conviction in her belief in the ideology of trans.

[@the_messenger]

@@LaizyDaisy His expertise goes beyond that. According to Wikipedia, "[Jamie] Raines has a master's degree and a PhD in Psychology from the University of Essex. He was awarded his doctorate in 2021. He has conducted research into the sexual response of transgender men as well as other topics related to gender and sexuality." He is also an actual trans person, and I would think that a trans person would know more about being trans than someone who isn't trans.

[@katansi]

Bonus, at least Helen Joyce can actually read scientific literature to a degree that most psychology degree holders of any level can't because she can literally model math. A psych major has maybe 1-2 stats classes required to complete, and the researchers often just hire actual mathematicians.

[@gday2000]

but muh lived experience!!!

[@pamm8713]

Jammi doesn't have a phd in TERF studies, so why does Jammi feel competent to commit?

[@duckiily]

i think Helen’s argument about religion is a pretty solid one. i grew up around a lot of Jewish folks, most of my friends were practicing. even though i am not religious myself, i would be aware of theirs and try to accommodate it while we were together. for example, i would cover my shoulders and hair at a synagogue. that being said, there are certain things that cross a line for me and everyone should be able to make decisions about their own lives. one of my friends demanded that i stop eating pork because she was kosher and it offended her. i told her no. even though that’s such a small thing, it still matters to me because it’s still someone trying to control me due to their beliefs. would i have demanded that she eat pork because it’s delicious? no. so i dont think you can do it the other way around. same goes for the gender cult. you cannot expect me to kowtow to your feelings and belief system if you do not do the same for me. hopefully this makes sense lol

[@ninjawizard3865]

I didn't know Jews were offended by Pork.

[@mandatory055]

"there are certain things that cross a line for me and everyone should be able to make decisions about their own lives" this would be fine, except Helen Joyce explicitly does not want trans people to be able to make decisions about their own lives. The analogy here would be she does not want to cover her shoulders and hair at a synagogue, so Helen wants to do away with Synagogues.

[@ninjawizard3865]

@@mandatory055 What the what?

[@Nemo12417]

@@mandatory055 You are a disgusting pervert and a child molester. We on this page will not stand for your ilk, now go join the 41% you degenerate freak!

[@xenn4985]

​@@ninjawizard3865 it's a parrot

[@LJW1912]

Judging someone purely on their academic qualifications is pretty daft

[@saoirse2963]

Especially nowadays, when the standards have been lowered so much.

[@frishter]

Their tactics are to discredit others by any means. They're excuses though. It's a trap trying to prove yourself to them. They're not interested.

[@markpostgate2551]

​@@frishter Identity politics to a tee - are they a member of the identity group? IF "No" then "their opinion is worthless because they don't have lived experience"; IF "yes" then "their opinion is worthless because they are self-loathing/a traitor/colonised". The question is not whether or not an opponent's opinion is worthless, it is working out why and there is never that many steps to get there.

[@Gibbo263]

Arguably, I’d say if you have a formal education in something, if you then have nothing else, you will have a massive bias for the way you view things

[@nineteenfortyeight]

And I'd add that if your only claim to expertise on TRAs is being a TIF, you're very very biased.

[@ilfautdanser9121]

@@nineteenfortyeight she has a PhD in being trans though LOL

[@serenamorrison2628]

A bias can exist but same with inexperience.

[@xenn4985]

​@@serenamorrison2628your pfp disaqualifies you from opining here.

[@serenamorrison2628]

@@xenn4985 In what rules?

[@elwachinmanda]

3:24 "Its just a feeling, its just an opinion" Oh boy, the irony

[@hannabio2770]

Yeah... I chuckled on this moment too. 🤗

[@littlecatfeet9064]

One question for women like Jammidodger would be; if you’re imprisoned would you prefer to go to the men’s or women’s estate? And explain your preference?

[@chrisbfreelance]

Spot on.

[@Rebecca236]

Absolutely!

[@afroaesthete3701]

Jammi discounting Helen’s perspective based on her lack of formal education in the topic is laughable, considering the fact that academia’s widespread acceptance of gender ideology is less than a decade old. When I was in college in 2013, “gender dysphoria” was taught as a mental disorder in Abnormal Psychology, and was included in the DSM-5, which had just come out. We were still being taught with the DSM-4, which called it “gender identity disorder”. The World Health Organization only stopped considering it a disorder in 2019. What Jammi calls “new knowledge” is actually ideological capture of academic institutions.

[@ninjawizard3865]

Long march...

[@mandatory055]

This argument was copy pasted from the religious right's anti-homophobia campaigns. You could replace all mentions of gender with homosexuality in this poor excuse for an argument, and you'd find it buried in your local church's pamphlet from the 1980s or 90s. You should have some shame.

[@CampfirElliee]

Academic research is driven by the desire to find truth, not ideologies. Right wing papers are not retracted due to political or financial reasons, people who test them afterwards prove them wrong. Even when oil companies fund papers they still find climate change phenomena to be true.

[@Nemo12417]

@@CampfirElliee Climate change is a myth. This is a page for people who believe in TRUTH, not left wing lies. Go join the 41%.

[@Nemo12417]

@@ninjawizard3865 Yep. First they denied the truth about the evils of homosexuality. And you see how much worse it has gotten since then.

[@noctua_caelum]

Does Jammi have multiple degrees in biology, gender, sociology, whatever? Oh *some people* don’t need professional qualifications to have well-informed opinions on something?

[@sunnie734]

I'm pretty sure she has a degree in "transgender studies" or something...whatever that is.

[@billmartins5545]

Jammi has no higher education in biology or medicine. So,... She's just coming at this from her experience as a "transman", which only goes so far as her personal expense and isn't an authority for anything else.

[@JeffGunter-c8d]

I believe Jammi has a PHD in something related to gender ideology.

[@whostheradical]

The 1% regret statistic JammiDodger wields is rubbish. WPATH and others have famously not tracked the progress of any of their victims, nor will they let anyone else conduct this research.

[@billmartins5545]

Yeah, and the dead ones obviously no longer attend your clinic. I think the lost to follow up in this patient population is something like a third or maybe even more. It's very likely that the % of bad outcomes/regrets is (much) higher in that group than the patients they are still in touch with. That's what Dr A Campo (?) of the Netherlands said about this population group, and this was years ago before it became the wild west.

[@souxcasa]

Helen Joyce is a journalist. A good one too, good journalists research and fact check at the same rate if not better than university. She is incredibly well educated on the matter possibly one of the best educated on the topic currently

[@darkdudironaji]

I really hate when they say "denying my existence." They're purposely using the word "existence" because it has multiple meanings and want you to conflate the two when they say it. What they're saying is, "denying my way of living." What they want you to conflate it with, "denying I exist."

[@dimercamparini]

Is also actually a subtle way of suggesting that ppl that deny that their concept of "gender" exist are litterally trying to ELIMINATE them (meaning "deleting" them physically...that couples well with the constant reference, coming from their ranks, to some kind of "T g3noclde" that seems to happen somewhere, someway)

[@EmperorSigismund]

That's what happens when you embrace an identity that has no foundation in reality. You see any challenge to that identity as a challenge against your very existence.

[@ctdirect5858]

Exactly. He's not denying she exists, just denying her beliefs. Which is perfectly reasonable.

[@darkdudironaji]

@@ctdirect5858 I more meant they use the word "existence" because it also means "way of life." For instance, "I never understood how city folk live, due to my rural existence."

[@ctdirect5858]

@darkdudironaji even then it is misleading, because the accurate word is "perspective". Then they'd concede their identity is subjective and emotional, and nobody has to accommodate it. So by using the word "existence" they're trying to make it seem as their beliefs are provable and objective.

[@scarba]

I can’t believe she’s got a PhD. She’s incapable of a coherent argument

[@LaizyDaisy]

Nor will she debate any serious academics or those able to conduct reasoned arguments backed with facts and science.

[@DM5550Z]

@@LaizyDaisyNo one to debate since Jamie’s opinions are widely accepted in recent academia, although will continue to wane. The majority of the public finds it strange

[@billmartins5545]

​@@DM5550ZThere's lots of people who are very knowledgeable and capable on this topic who can debate Jammi out of the water, I can name ten people off the top of my head. But Jammi knows she will lose so she will never agree to that.

[@spector969]

Don't equate academic success (especially within the soft sciences) with intelligence. They're not the same thing. 😉

[@scarba]

@ evidently:)

[@johannamiller527]

As someone with a mathematics degree myself, I love the point that Helen Joyce makes about how adding just one false statement to a system of logical reasoning destroys the whole system. Gender politics/policy isn't as rigorous a domain as math, but we see the same kinds of ripple effects: Once you allow that male people can be women in some contexts, the implications spread everywhere. So I'm grateful to her contribution to the discourse from her particular area of expertise.

[@Toastie19]

@@johannamiller527 same. I never thought of it that way before but she’s completely right. Starting off from a false premise will always cause a ton of issues. All of the things happening are a natural progression of that.

[@johannamiller527]

@@Toastie19 Right - and what bothers me most, I think, is how the "natural progression" has extended into how we talk about sex and gender even in contexts that have nothing to do with trans people. In order for trans women to be women in the same way that "cis women" (sic) are women, we're supposed to believe that what makes someone a woman is their inherent "woman gender," which all women have and which has nothing to do with their biological sex. And from that, we're supposed to believe that no one can know that I'm a woman just by looking at me, unless I'm wearing a pin that announces me as "she/her." Which makes it awfully hard to talk about the sexism that so clearly still exists in the world.

[@katansi]

The use of "valid" tagged to feelings has been nuts to me from the beginning. I would like the logical premises laid out that make feelings "valid" when we aren't talking about measuring electrical impulses in the brain or something.

[@garcialna95]

this may come back later in the video but i'm pausing it to adress it, the HP fanfiction bit is really weird ?? Out of all things for Jammi to criticize, i did NOT expect that ? Especially considering the huge links between trans internet culture and fandom internet culture... Like even if she was just reading it for fun, wgaf? Are you telling me Jammi is a 100% normie TIF who thinks it's gross to read fandom erotica?? oh boy she really doesn't know her audience then

[@KC_Streams]

Yeah definitely comes across as a hypocritical criticism!

[@grimming4886]

y e a h exactly

[@jamesmeacham1305]

You are so much nicer than I am when you engage these folks. The arguments are so transparently empty and filled with logical fallacies for people who have studied philosophy. "You disagree with me" == "You are a hateful bigot" is such a b***sh** argument in almost all cases that it kind of enrages me that we have to keep having it, over and over and over.

[@Nemo12417]

If you've ever read the Turner Diaries, it lays out exactly what we need to do to the transgender freaks.

[@Acehigh-Jenkins]

The fan fiction thing I actually heard Helen Joyce discussing this with relation to social contagion for Trans identified females. She was discussing how the gay stories available were largely written and consumed by females but the males in them behaved in more stereotypical female way. She was positing I believe if TIF’s were reading these it was perhaps confirming them by saying this is how males are but this was in fact a woman’s perception of a man not a man perception of themselves.

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

That whole episode really showed the TRAs up for the immature, dishonest, desperate creeps they are-even the female ones.

[@Toastie19]

Trans clinics/doctors are notoriously known for not following up with their patients properly. Some of these studies ignore detransitioners entirely even when they’re clearly the ones who would regret it the most. This is why the regret rate looks so low.

[@anewagora]

I am a detrans woman and medical systems at least in America are so egregiously neglectful and abusive in general it is inevitable they will neglect detrans people. When I started detransition, doctors made very basic mistakes with my hormones any entry level OBGYN student should know. I was routinely pushed to go to trans specific OBGYNs who kept treating me like a transwoman. I signed a waiver for estrogen & progesterone that was totally unnecessary intended for male to female patients. More than half the factors were not biologically possible for me, like acknowledging that "my testicles would shrink". It was medically extremely dangerous and almost killed me, to cut the story short. There are no categories and labels in medical documentation to identify us as detrans, and we are often hamfisted into the trans world in the most delusional way. I was far more like a transman biologically than a transwoman, since I had been FTM for 14 years. You have to fight like a dog and tell every medical worker you interact with exactly what malpractice was done wrong to you to get what you need, or they send you absolutely in the wrong direction.

[@derigel7662]

not trying to support trans stuff here, but i feel that's the medical industry as a whole (at lease in America, where we are money bags not people that need to be healthy)

[@Toastie19]

@@derigel7662 I can no longer see my reply, idk if KZbin removed it or it’s hiding it for me. I’ll write it again just in case. Trans healthcare is particularly worse than other fields. Look into the WPATH files, they’re shocking.

[@boringfish]

Umm didn't you know?? Those detransitioners were cis ppl all along so they shouldn't be included in trans studies (even though the definition of transgender relies solely on self-identity so retroactively claiming that someone was never a trans person after they decide to stop identifying as such makes as much sense as saying ex-christians were secretly atheists the whole time).

[@alisonmercer5946]

Oh for sure there are.way more.people who regret. surgery than they say the stats show.

[@oliverhug3]

Days TRAs didn`t compare black women to men...ZERO.

[@billmartins5545]

That one always really infuriates me. It's so offensive to so many women, I'd say to ALL women. I'm a white women from a rich country. Ignoring the language barrier, I will have shared experiences and understanding with every woman out there, something no man will have with women, just like I'll never have that kind of shared experience with men. This is beyond race, ethnicity, culture, religion: this is biology.

[@gerarddearie-zd2gb]

The fact Jammi uses the "trans is an adjective" argument (a trans woman is a woman, a black woman is a woman, a ginger woman is a woman etc) and doesn't even know the difference between a predicate and an identity should disqualify her from talking about it. To use the Wittgenstein example, the "is" in "two plus two is four" and "the sky is blue" is not performing the same function. Since when were Catholics not Christian, King Critical?

[@anonanonymous460]

A lot of protestants like to accuse catholics of not being christian/“true” christians, even though they both fall under the definition of christian. It’s no different than when say, a baptist accuses an episcopalian of not being “truly christian.” It’s a belief internal to the religion, not fact.

[@dimercamparini]

You can destroy the "T is an adjective" argument by simply saying 2 words: "fake woman"... (if you add something to a noun, NOT every time that something just signify a "specification" for that noun...an ulterior characteristic...sometimes can also signify a completely different concept and NEGATE some characteristics for the noun itself...adding "fake" for example in this case means the noun is now a completely different thing)

[@BlueGamingRage]

@@dimercamparini fake women are women!

[@dimercamparini]

@@BlueGamingRage "fake women are women!" Eeeeh...no... (actually the opposite) I dont think you and I have the same comprehension of the english language...unless you were being sarcastic...

[@gerarddearie-zd2gb]

@@dimercamparini The "ginger women is a woman argument" relies on the quiddities of the English language. For it to work the way TRAs want it to, it would literally mean a woman is made of ginger, rather than "a ginger woman is a woman(with a ginger hair" or a "black woman is a woman(with Sub-Saharan ancestry)." And, in all three the adjective performs different linguistic functions. A trans-woman is a woman(who was not born female)" Okay, then you have to define what a woman is-which will pitch you into a morass of circular reasoning and then you will end up with the "two plus two is four"-type statement. Namely, "a woman is a woman", and like "two plus two is four", it has no content.

[@mattbuchanan325]

The fact that Jammi has a PhD and still makes terrible arguments is really all you need to dismiss the ‘expert’ claim. I would take Helen Joyce and her knowledge of the topic and debating skills any day. And you too of course KC.

[@helench6097]

Not only that a PhD in gender Bullshit

[@saoirse2963]

Yeah, sorry, I don't see where and when her academic background comes into play in her videos. Besides boasting about having it in order to boost her own authority, of course. It's so bad that I wonder how much of her PhD is really her work and if she even understood her own research. The other possible explanation is much more sinister - she knows nothing she researched really support her claims, so she doesn't use it. Even when she brings up academic articles to support her claims, she only tells the parts that supposedly support her claims or twist the articles' content to support her claims , but if you read the full articles you see the conclusions are quite different. She also never posts links to the articles she talks about in her videos. Maria MacLachlan in her channel Peak Trans has a few videos in which she searches for and finds the articles Jamie's talks about and explains how they don't support Jamie's claims.

[@nelsonmcduff5218]

JammiDodger is proof that a PhD isn't proof of intelligence.

[@Rebecca236]

YESSSS!!! But he's very confident and articulate and people often confuse this with intelligence.

[@Tinybadger]

Oh my gosh so happy you covered this and in particular the elitism of that video.

[@StephenDeagle]

Just because a degree can be taken as evidence of knowledge, doesn't mean absence of a degree is evidence of an absence of knowledge.

[@DanielleStarry]

the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence 🙂

[@sourdoughed]

Gave Jammi a definition of a women that excluded men and included all women in the video’s comments and to Jammi’s credit the comment was not deleted :)

[@LaizyDaisy]

Had she seen it though…

[@rl7012]

She probably left the comment up on purpose so as to prove that she doesn't delete other views, whilst deleting all the other 'non compliant' comments.

[@BlueGamingRage]

What's your definition?

[@cosmickilroy]

5:21 Joyce reading the fan fiction IS RELEVANT entirely. I know from personal experience that gay fan fiction does sway girls to want to be gay men themselves. Just like how some men want to be lesbians. It’s real and I’m glad someone is actually pointing this out! I see it often in the anime communities. Many girls would cross play their favorite male characters and ship them with other cosplayers and then I saw a few of these cosplayers also transition. And I did read such fan fiction and manga and anime when I was young. This was popular for “queer” type girls especially

[@ezraoberheim1081]

" I know from personal experience that gay fan fiction does sway girls to want to be gay men themselves." Or maybe, stay with me here, trans people seek out media where they feel represented, even before they transition. How do you leap and jump over the more obvious answer to come up with a "video games make kids violent" type argument.

[@sunnie734]

​@@ezraoberheim1081 They learn about gay men and gay sex from this media, realise that they get pleasure from it, and wrongly assume that the reason they get pleasure from it is because they're actually "a gay man trapped in a woman's body", and wish to experience what a gay man does. But they're not gay men. They're girls who gain pleasure from gay sexual media. It's not leaping and jumping at all. It happens ALL THE TIME.

[@merrymachiavelli2041]

​@@ezraoberheim1081 'young girls are susceptible to socially-induced body dysmorphia' is less obvious than claiming humans all have a innate neurological trait called 'gender' ? Suuuuure.

[@Bigzthegreat]

@@ezraoberheim1081 Isn't it both? - Find out trans gives you the horn - View more trans content - Think about being trans more often - Search for more trans that gives you the horn (i) - Transition

[@alexbennet4195]

@@ezraoberheim1081what do you think a “trans” person is?

[@Bubbly_Weird2871]

Helen researched erotic fan fiction's influence on young girls transition. Pretty disingenuous of Jammi to pretend otherwise. Also, aren't these supposed to be the sex positivity people?

[@PamelaHeystek]

Yes! I was thinking that too. I agree that Helen Joyce was genuinely reading it for research purpose, since she did an interview on the subject (which I personally wasn't into since I felt it oversimplified the phenomenon), but if she hadn't been, so what? Why shouldn't women be allowed to explore their sexuality? Cos the fanfic involved kidnapping (a theme so common in mainstream movie romances that media literacy channels make entire videos exploring it)? Cos she's old and the thought of her having sexual desires is icky to Jammi? I was seriously confused as to why Jammi thought this was such a terrible act and also thought the entire public would be outraged by it. Guess what Jammi, I've both read and written fanfiction on trains with no public outrage. Is Jammi a prude? Probably not since that wouldn't be acceptable in the kinds of spaces she hangs out in. Kinda feels like its female sexuality specifically she doesn't like. It's unquestioned (and to Jammi herself - unnoticeable) biases like these that could contribute to the development of trans identities in young women. Props to KC for understanding this :)

[@marysheedy5709]

"I wouldn't choose this." How can someone with a PhD in psychology be unaware of the subconscious?

[@Orphoid]

Does Jammie really think you need a Phd in Psychology to have an opinion on this? that's crazy lol

[@chrisbfreelance]

She is riddled with delusions so it's not surprising at all, coupled with her being a chronic liar and narcissist.

[@brockreynolds870]

Let's keep in mind that Helen Joyce DOES have some real life experience in this realm, considering she has a gay son.

[@evesapple]

I mean being gay is something else. What I like more is a ‘cis’ person is not able to talk about gender ideology being a nonsense because they’re not trans..yet according to people like jammidodger we all have a gender identity. If they truly believe that, they should have 0 issue with a ‘cis’ person talking about this

[@seto749]

She cares far more about gay fertility than most gays do. Whatever it takes to get someone on board, I suppose, but it would be nice for allies to appreciate and bring attention to our own concerns as well.

[@brockreynolds870]

@@seto749 Perhaps she wants grandchildren?

[@Nemo12417]

Is she trying to fix her gay son? I'm usually a fan of Helen Joyce, but if her son is proudly a degenerate and she's cool with that, that is a bit of a red flag. As long as she fights the trans freaks, though, I can mostly overlook that.

[@xenn4985]

​@@seto749That's not the critique you think it is.

[@jibbobdion5072]

Ahhh yes, my weekly routine a morning cup of coffee with a brand new King Critical video, cheers mate.

[@nickcharles1284]

No, Jamie, I do not respect more, or less, a religion simply because I enter a religious household. I do not say grace with Christians, I do not join in on Muslim prayers, nor would I be expected too.

[@brandonhelcher3691]

Exactly. Going through the motions without belief, seems like It'd be more mocking than respectful.

[@BlueGamingRage]

@@brandonhelcher3691 It depends on how important the ceremony is relative to conviction. A lot of cultural aspects of religion are more akin to customs rather than acts of belief. A good example of this is shown in the video when he's talking about following dress codes in religious buildings

[@xenn4985]

I think it's a conflation of respect with conciliation. For example when I eat with christians I don't eat before they say their prayers, I just sit quietly and wait. I don't do this because I respect the prayer, but to avoid conflict.

[@DarkMark-cf1ec]

Muslims would expect you, and get offended lol. Typical "you have a choice here son" type of people that then end up pulling you with them anyways

[@foogriffy]

why have friends at all lol. learn to connect with people without huddling in fear over your own fragile identity

[@joedge6142]

So I can't do a book review unless I have a degree in English literature? We don't know the true regret rate because there's no follow up in the majority of cases.

[@chrisbfreelance]

Yes, and you can't care about deforestation unless you have an ecology degree.

[@duckiily]

you are entirely correct about the difference between letting someone go through puberty, and giving that person cross sex hormones or puberty blockers. it’s like the difference between me having painful endometriosis, and being offered a hysterectomy from a doctor. in one instance, i am in pain and suffering… but i am still whole, and my body is just doing what it does. in the other, i am having a radical procedure that MIGHT fix the problem, but isn’t a guarantee (endometrial tissue can grow back even without those organs). there’s a very good reason why doctors haven’t encouraged me to just get rid of my organs even though it could help my quality of life. there are risks. every time.

[@aaronfarrell2805]

Thanks for making this vid. Jammi is so painful and these things need to be pointed out to her. You're looking very 🔥🔥🔥 btw

[@masscreationbroadcasts]

5:27 - 5:43 The pause at the repeated "nobody would care" 😂😂

[@joshgorsky5224]

I can’t stand this lady!

[@saoirse2963]

Me too. I despise her. She does so much damage. So many young people idolize her because she is a "success story" of a trans man, and because she is playing off the image of this affable, kinda shy, slightly goofy British young man. So many young people - especially teenage girls and very young women - credit her for inspiring their transitioning or making them understand they are trans. And she doesn't care. I find it hard to believe that at some level she doesn't understand the harm she is inflicting. Deep down, I'm sure she has at least moments of a fleeting thought of "but what if I'm wrong? What if I'm really harming all these people?" But she doesn't care. After all, she doesn't know any of them personally. And the money is too good.

[@joshgorsky5224]

@@saoirse2963 WHOA! You just voiced my inner dialogue, only better articulated lol. Especially on her carefully curated appearance and demeanor! She’s playing an archetype! You summed it up perfectly and to go deeper- I believe that the root of the matter is a Cluster B personality disorder; probably NPD. Only a Cluster B could be so shamelessly and effortlessly manipulative.

[@Nemo12417]

@@saoirse2963 if Jammi is a sexual predator, which she is, then I'd say we as private citizens have a right to take matters into our own hands. What say you?

[@peachyykeen80]

When I was a grad student (PhD program, studying immunology), I had my text books or journal on public transit all the time, and no one cared, even when I had classes on medical infections with gross pictures. If no one gave a shit when I had textbooks out, no one is gonna care when you have literature of another variety out.

[@rhymerlegend2717]

I love how Jamie says that facts don’t care about our feelings all the time when she herself has said she “knows she’s a man” up in her head. Which is basically just the same as saying. “I feel like a man therefore I am one.” Like Jamie, it’s YOU who are basing your feelings on fact when your feelings have nothing to do with fact. You are a woman no matter how you feel. Facts don’t care about YOUR feelings Jamie.

[@DM5550Z]

I feel like Jamie deep down has deep conflicts

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

AAP Jamie does her very best impression of a very effeminate man. That’s as close as she’ll ever get to being a man.

[@TheSapphireLeo]

Stop misgendering in deliberation and ignorance?

[@rhymerlegend2717]

@@TheSapphireLeo Jamie is a woman. So a she her. She misgenders herself all the time

[@Lorenz1973]

Could you possibly do more about the wider impact of this neo-religion? For example police warrant cards considering gender identity. Police forces having powers about the general public, especially regarding strip and intimate searches …. Female bodies of the general public should not be used to provide confirmation or affirmation to men with mental health issues. All this non-consensual use of female bodies by men for their mental health issues is abusive. What about consent and choice for women in terms of access to our bodies?!?

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

Jammidodger wants us to define a woman in a way that excludes all males. Can she define woman in a way that includes them, without referring to regressive misogynistic stereotypes and circular reasoning?

[@rhymerlegend2717]

Short answer: no. She never even gives her definition of a woman except for the cop out of “it’s what you know you are ‘up here” (the brain)

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

@@rhymerlegend2717it’s hilarious isn’t it. Given these men are some of the most typically male on the planet. Not a single one of them has “lady brain”.

[@xenn4985]

Seeing as how the foundation of gender ideology is ssex stereotyping, no I don't think she can.

[@BlandBrowser]

The question of education in the topic of transition is interesting. Dodger has studied trans, and is trans. That might actually be as much a problem as a benefit. Suppose you attended a lecture on Exorcism in the Catholic Church. Would the lecture have more credibility if the lecturer was a Catholic Priest who performed regular exorcisms? No, you would expect a bias. This is why the Cass Review was headed up by a doctor who personally had no history in transitioning patients. The government was afraid of experts bias. Helen Joyce is a journalist, researching topics with an outsiders eye is her thing.

[@nineteenfortyeight]

This.

[@kermitthefrog2311]

Yes!

[@elliemiller74]

JammiDodger isn’t an academic. As an academic, we learn to observe data without our bias. And JammiDodger’s PhD was obtained online, I think? So, JD didn’t do field research. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I wouldn’t trust JammiDodger’s ethos. Ha, I know someone who wrote a thesis on pornography! JD is so ignorant about the academic world.

[@Roseyla]

Accepting AGP as true then of course means acknowledging Ray Blanchard's typology, where he states that there are two types of trans women... the AGP, or the homosexual transsexual, and you can guess which one has the highest rate between the two. But, Blanchard's research for this is now decades old and while it is still applicable to some extent, we know today some people are transitioning for other reasons. Still, though, I've spent time in the detrans space as well as AGP spaces and I think most trans women are probably AGP.

[@nineteenfortyeight]

Not at all. Just because someone coins a word doesn't mean it only applies in the context of their system. Nobody believes even 10% of what Hypocrites believed, thank god, but we all use his words.

[@Roseyla]

@@nineteenfortyeight What is your point?

[@KC_Streams]

Yeah I don't have any strong opinion myself on the proportions but I also haven't loked into it much

[@billmartins5545]

I met AGPs. Nice guys, always in masculine jobs, for some reason, and almost all mostly/exclusively into women.

[@dawnw9180]

I thought the purpose of formal university education was to give you the ability to critically research a subject and assess pros and cons to reach a conclusion, not to only consider the views of those with a vested interest in a particular viewpoint? That it gives you skills that can be used outside your area of expertise.

[@KC_Streams]

Yes good point. It should be about learning how to think critically and intelligently more generally

[@davidmb1595]

Whenever anyone has to tell you about their credentials in a certain topic and disqualifies someone else for their lack of formal education in such a topic, to me that's a major betrayal of how little you have to argue in favor of your perspective. If you have a good argument, just tell us about it, that is how you debate, not talking about how much you've studied and then failing to produce an argument.

[@sarahk651]

Great video, you express yourself so well!

[@BluesManPeich]

I have a PhD in solar physics, and moved to a different field of research after completing it. I am far from being an expert in solar physics, I just did a PhD; it takes a career to become an expert.

[@chrisbfreelance]

I'm sorry, unless you have lived on the Sun for at least a fortnight we can't accept your opinions.

[@nineteenfortyeight]

13:31 Notice how she jumps from "in their home" to "in their presence". Helen doesn't turn off her phone in her own apartment. If we promise not to go to Jamie's house will she be satisfied with us calling her "she"?

[@Toastie19]

That’s what I thought. Helen is specifically doing these things at her Jewish friend’s house. He doesn’t expect her to do these things at her home. Trans people find it bigoted when people misgender them to others when they aren’t even around.

[@KC_Streams]

That's a good catch! Yeah clearly respecting someone's beliefs in their home where you're a guest is different from just around them in general

[@derekb4977]

​@@KC_Streams can you do a video on how dangerous this south Korea squid game season 2 character is and how we stop this movement in entertainment.

[@dimercamparini]

@@derekb4977 You have NOT actually watched the show, have you? Probably just watched some commentary on it or seen some tweets... (yes...there is a T-person in it...NO...is not written and portraied as in the 99% of the western shows...is actually done decently and the whole show in general is NOT woke)

[@derekb4977]

@@dimercamparini I watched season 1, I refuse to call him a she, because he can never be a She, I also will call jammi or whatever her name is SHE, I do not believe in the T.

[@wardandrew23412]

Why can't we say that a 'female', in the sense being discussed here, is an adult human whose reproductive system is designed to produce children? That definition seems pretty air-tight to me. If someone were to object that it fails to account for adult human females who _cannot_ bear children, I would simply point out that the word 'designed' does not presuppose that it be able to fulfill the purpose for which it was designed. Consider for example an ordinary clock. This clock was designed to tell time, but if it were to be somehow disabled, it would not be able to fulfill its intended function. Does that mean it would no longer be a clock? The answer of course is no; a non-functioning clock is still a clock.

[@emperorsnewclothes9405]

if i failed to get a degree in 'trans' would i fail to be 'trans'?

[@Bitofa_nerd]

The old saying the real learning starts when you leave university still applies. I have qualifications as well, though they don't come close to life experience.

[@anewagora]

It's easy to research and self educate yourself in the modern world with access to all kinds of media. I'm mostly self educated and have actually been innovative in my field, whereas college "educated" peers have often been much more ignorant. Also, when I was a transman I never supported academic Queer Theory that's behind mainstream trans ideas bc it was explicitly against my needs as a trans person. I just wanted answers and treatment so I wasn't in pain, extreme body horror and chronic fatigue all the time. Not only did Social Justice fail to help me whatsoever, SJWs actively used and abused people like me for their own political gain & religious ideology. They are HURTING trans people on top of innocent bystanders who get dragged into this stuff.

[@lizzyhelena]

I can't stand Jammi.

[@billmartins5545]

Jammi is IMO one of the worst on here. No real arguments but the audience is too immature to realise this. It's literally 🧹 ing. Jammi likes to pretend she's an academic but she doesn't understand any kind of science and has not even basic understanding of logic. I actually do have a science PhD (human biology) and I'm pretty well read on the 🚂 topic. I can blow Jammi out of the water any day, just as you can, but she'll never agree to a debate. Also, I read Fifty Shades on the train. Does that mean I'm now just a perv and my educated opinion on things is now irrelevant?

[@DarkMark-cf1ec]

All you need is fitness to realize how permanent "blockers" are. They induce atrophy as its main effect

[@gostepsenglish4431]

She is ridiculous, so many bad faith takes just to justify her position.

[@sthom3052]

Great video . Top and bottom of it is by Jamie saying she's a trans man is admitting she's a woman.

[@gostepsenglish4431]

Why do all 'trans men' have beards and short hair?

[@gostepsenglish4431]

@@Thomas-zx2yt Do all men have beards? Must have missed that.

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

@@Thomas-zx2ytproving it’s all stereotypes. A male can be baby skin smooth, wax his entire body and face, and have long lustrous hair. Still a man.

[@brandonhelcher3691]

The same reason "trans women" will often have long hair and makeup. They want to pass as much as possible so they cling to traditional identifiers. Ironically enforcing gender stereotypes.

[@acid7904]

thank you for this comment, it really has made me glad to know this comment section is filled with idiots and i'm not going insane

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

@@brandonhelcher3691yup. The trans movement is the most regressive, gender stereotype enforcing movement out there.

[@janebovary626]

The main advantage of a tertiary education is that it gives you the tools for critical assessment and those tools transfer across subjects…”thinking skills” if you like. At least, that’s what it should do.

[@billmartins5545]

Jammi seems to not have acquired those at all.

[@Mr_Boifriend]

Yet another day of King Critical pretending that he is not, in fact, Jammidodger😂

[@KC_Streams]

Controlled opposition!

[@ابراهيم_محمد_الازهر]

Society as a whole is unanimously rejecting this

[@CatBahptista]

I sure hope

[@brockreynolds870]

Jammiedodger (real name Jennifer Raines) just comes up with all kinds of ridiculous assertions.

[@CatBahptista]

Jennifer… interesting

[@ijansk]

That's because gender identity has no ground in our biology; it belongs to the realm of the imaginary, so in order to force it into reality realty must be twisted.

[@CCCC-fj3kf]

I call this argumentative tactic “begging qualifications.” There few things more ridiculous than claiming another person’s views, theories, opinions etc are false or falsifiable by reason that they do not have a highly issue-specific tertiary qualification or personal experience. This species of qualification is very new. We’ve had universities since around the 1200s, possibly earlier, but single issue degrees have on average only been around for 35 years. Did we not have experts before the 80s and 90s? Most field experts I have encountered do not have field-specific degree. A PhD like the one Helen has makes her EMINENTLY capable of analysing data and forming sensible, defensible conclusions, which she does.

[@Missmiserie]

11:40 I’m new here I used to watch Jamie when I was questioning my gender because he had videos about his transition but seeing the videos put out now make me kind of sad because he’s one of the reasons I decided I wasn’t trans and I was just a woman with some internalized hatred for my own womanhood he explained dysphoria really well and I knew that wasn’t what I was feeling so I put in the work to try and love myself and make the best of what life’s given me I have a lot of mixed feelings about him now considering his videos are less about his personal transition and they’re more activist propaganda now

[@motherofplants7186]

Best video yet. Well done!

[@miaofearth]

I find it slightly oxymoronic that you are so logical yet not an atheist as I had assumed, mind explaining how that works as I’m genuinely confused

[@rl7012]

He has gone up in my estimation now for not being an atheist. Why do you believe that atheism is logical then?

[@nightingaleblackbird1313]

Your assumption might have something to do with your belief system and preconceived notions...

[@rl7012]

@@nightingaleblackbird1313 You just made a bunch of huge wrong assumptions. How do you know what I believe? You don't. So lets get back to the question. How is atheism logical?

[@nightingaleblackbird1313]

​@@rl7012My response wasn't directed at you but the original poster😊 Look at the handle

[@KC_Streams]

Occasionally I make videos substantiating my theism, but obviously it's quite a big issue I have a lot of opinions on so you're best off just monitoring my outlook and watching any video I make that appears to be about religion!

[@collyernicholasjohn]

Smashed it out of the park KC. Thank you. ❤

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

King Critical is just so obviously the smarter person here, between him and Jammi.

[@calmon-ground962]

q: What do you call the guy who finished last in his class in Med school? a: Doctor.

[@billmartins5545]

She didn't even go to med school. She did psychology.

[@joanappleton2478]

Jami remains female, regardless of her insistence of being a male .

[@jerrybergsteinbaum8008]

Jammidodger is the worst type of harmful cult member with good intentions who doesnt realize theyre harming alot of people

[@rhymerlegend2717]

I don’t even believe she has good intentions I think somewhere deep down she knows what she is doing

[@rl7012]

@@rhymerlegend2717 Course she does. It will be a cold day in hell before she admits it though.

[@LaizyDaisy]

@@rhymerlegend2717she’s finally realised she is still just a female with modifications and is taking down the gullible with her so she doesn’t sink alone. Her presentation of a man is laughably feminine.

[@SheridanM-dc1nk]

@@rl7012she absolutely knows she’s not a man.

[@billmartins5545]

I don't think she has good intentions. She's a grifter, I don't think she's got a real job.

[@pwblackman]

So much of this culture war battlefield is grounded in linguistics. At previous time we used the terms “female / male impersonator” to describe what is now known as trans. The truth of the matter is that “female / male impersonator” Is a far more accurate descriptor.

[@aicesnow3070]

if my comment on the king James bible that you responded is what inspired you to make a video on why you are not Jewish, i didn't know it would go that far, but im dentally waiting to see that video.

[@Morbazan125]

I’ve been getting really into epistemology recently and it’s really made me question what things I know and what things I know of, because there’s quite a big difference.

[@LetsTalkLogicOfficial]

Thanks for being an inspiration to me! Valid points as always.

[@Spudeaux]

Regarding the light - place it above and to the side of you, where there is a triangle of light below your eye on the shadowed side of your face.

[@KC_Streams]

Thank you! I will try this!

[@pillznarRy]

god bro i wish i had ur control and timing. its so purposeful, so calm and sincere at the same time (if that makes sense lol). either way i love ya man!!! super happy i ever found ur channel!!

[@KC_Streams]

Thanks! Even after all these years I still feel awkward talking to a camera and wonder if I come across like a weirdo, so it's good to hear you like my delivery

[@hannabio2770]

Hi! I really like your calm and logical manner of response! Thank you for that. Also, nice sweater! 💙 Love the color, it's suits you really much imo!

[@australiainfelix7307]

Begone with these people. Nobody I know accepts this nonsense. They should proceed with caution. Culture is changing. Hard.

[@Rebecca236]

PLEASE, please, please carry on what you are doing! I find Jammie Dodger one of the scariest people on KZbin. He has this friendly, wholesome vibe but is actually incredibly dangerous and narcissistic. A lot of the people responding in his comment section tend to be very young and naive and he is taking advantage of them.

[@bunnybeverley]

New lighting setup is a W

[@thomasherrington7237]

Minecraft made me trans is an insane title for the patron review, when i get a job i hope i can support for the epic review content!

[@KC_Streams]

I hope you get a job too! Not just for selfish reasons but also because (as I mentioned in my last video) I know way too many people who are really struggling int he current job market and it's depressing

[@betaradish9968]

The flat earth thing made me chuckle. I’ve argued against both flat earth and trans and it’s amazing how both sound very religious when pushed into a corner.

[@FatWhataburgerGuy]

Great work here

[@wardandrew23412]

One other thing to notice about JammiDodger's critique of Joyce is that his diploma in psychology is of no relevance here. The arguments he rejects are philosophical arguments, not arguments based on psychology. So on JammiDodger's own showing, his lack of education in the area of philosophy renders him unqualified to critique Joyce's arguments.

[@KainaX122]

What Jammi seems to not understand is that you can be very educated in a subject without having an actual formal degree. Yeah, I could go to the 20-something with the college degree to get my engineering degree fixed, or I could go to the 40-something guy down the road who barely passed high school and has been working on cars since he could walk

[@HasiramaSenju-sd9fl]

The thing is trusting the experts is often reasonable because they studied it more, but saying that someone is wrong if they are not "expert" or someone would be right just because they are "expert" would both be logical fallacies. If you are a so called "expert" but you can't even explain yourself properly or coherently, your expertise should ALWAYS be questioned really...

[@rhymerlegend2717]

That’s what my dad did. He dropped out of college and ended up being an engineer designing bridges the rest of his life

[@KainaX122]

*my engine fixed, not my engineering degree

[@ElijahKinsman-x3r]

You seem to be mistaken in the first bit. This is anecdotal but I was utterly and completely incapable of forming a single objective thought, running purely off of emotion until someone put professor in front of my name. Suddenly my mind became a well of knowledge and I could declare all truths.

[@nunomoure197]

Excellent essay! Liked and subscribed!

[@KC_Streams]

Thanks!

[@nujuat]

So would you say that liking and subscribing is "KZbinr affirming care"?

[@KC_Streams]

absolutely! If you don't do it you're a bigot

[@bullpupart]

Love the videos man!

[@ZZhorses]

You have earned a new sub. Good video

[@MFYouTube683]

Such an important video. Sorry but Helen is probably more qualified from an academic perspective to make _any_ statement about this than an ideologue with confirmation bias who did a PHD on the _one_ thing that defines them and what could _possibly_ be a problem with that? An academic would look at the substance of arguments instead of a diploma. Also - please note how JD never addresses the WPATH leaks - you know, the documents and footage of the self-proclaimed experts who issue the standards of care in the field in question? The Cass Report? Dr Olson Kennedy’s tax-funded research on Puberty Blockers that went unpublished for political reasons? All these people hold academic titles and are supposedly accomplished researchers and experts. And YET … This is so done and boring. #next

[@Thomas-zx2yt]

yes a degree in math is helpful 1 man + 1 transwoman = 2 men 1 woman + 1 transman = 2 women 1 transwoman = 1 transman = 1 man and 1 woman

[@HopeSmith-s4j]

RunawaySiren940 has like 500 videos but they are usually 20 minutes long rather that hour long video essays.

[@KC_Streams]

Ah ok! So I do have competition!

[@tosheatower]

At this point people like Jammi just have to be pitied. She has gone full-force into this nonesense and with every passing day more people are waking up to how ridiculous it is. All that's left is for her to one day wake up and realize everything she believed is wrong and she made a huge fool of herself, and that will probably tear her apart.

[@lidahall5928]

I'd pity her more if she was less of a gruumer, tbh.

[@Nemo12417]

@@lidahall5928 if Jammi is a groomer, then we are fully justified in....... well, I'll be censored if I finish that thought. But thankfully, we in America have the 2nd Amendment.

[@Mr_Boifriend]

nice try king critical we know you & jammidodger are the same person 😅😂

[@LaizyDaisy]

Ask Jamie I’d she will debate you. Nice takedown of her latest nonsensical TRA ramblings.

[@h6hfelie]

People chose to burn instead of converting to a different religion or even a different denomination of their same religion. People will put up with all kinds of oppressions to live by their beliefs in a hostile society. Not that TIMs and TIFs actually have it bad in the west these days.

[@rwilson1865]

But even taking such a drastic course of action isn't proof that God (or Allah, etc.) exists.

[@nightingaleblackbird1313]

​@@rwilson1865Doesn't disapprove either...what a pickle!

[@originalcyn]

“if the bejeweled acrylic fits” 😂