Betty Hutton was a wonderful performer and person. She overcame many difficulties, and found peace later in life.
@gatewayski110 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful memory - Betty Hutton was simply great! Mr. Allen passed away 13 days after this episode.
@theblake53564 жыл бұрын
Terribly sad that Fred Allen passed away just 13 days later. He was a natural fit on the panel.... loved him.
@dianawardrip51712 жыл бұрын
Agree, I am sure that he needed a stent or two, they wouldn’t be available for 35-40 years.
@Johnnycdrums13 күн бұрын
But he looked O.K. here.
@chrisjeffries23222 ай бұрын
Love Betty Hutton. 💋
@asteverino85692 жыл бұрын
Great show and I have just recently enjoyed fully, Betty Hutton's talants.
@Rosey012225 жыл бұрын
Betty Hutton had a so much eager to please manic energy when she performed it made you feel like you needed a tranquilizer after watching her. Her private life was a troubled one leading her later to find comfort in religion becoming religiously devout.
@rivaridge721110 жыл бұрын
Betty Hutton was so wonderfully lovely - and more talented than (I think!) she was ever given credit for. She was marvelous in "Annie Get your Gun," as a replacement for the great Judy Garland - who simply broke down (and bled hundreds-of-thousands of dollars of the film's initial budget - due to Garland's "no-shows" on the set). After Judy filmed a couple of lovely musical numbers for this picture - she fully collasped and could not continue no matter what the studio tried. MGM brought Betty in to take over the starring role, but many of the crew hated Betty out of misplaced loyalty to Judy. Miss Hutton was treated awfully on that set and it scarred her - she would do one more film ("The Greatest Show on Earth") and would forever call it quits from Hollywood movies. Her later years would find her flat-broke and working as a caretaker in a Catholic priest's rectory (Father Peter Maguire of Rhode Island - early 1970's). Betty would happily say (at the time - and later - after Father Maguire's death) that she found her most true happiness and peace while cooking and cleaning for her beloved Father Maguire. Betty fully stated that Hollywood never gave her any such joy. Bless her heart for always! Her story is something to well consider in these days (2015) of Hollywood/Celebrity worship - which leaves spiritual gratification off by the wayside.
@rawrm2477 жыл бұрын
You should read Rat Girl. It's a memoir written Kristin Hersh who happened to be one of Beth's best friends in her later years. Their friendship was really interesting. Kristin was attending community college at the age of 17 while Betty was there in her 60s I believe. They became great friends and she's a big part of the book.
@jimrick66327 жыл бұрын
BETTY HUTTON DID THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH/LETS DANCE TO NAME A FEW AND ALSO DID A TV IN 1957 AFTER ANNIE////SHE HAD A DRUG PROBLEM AND IT FINALLY CAUGHT UP WITH HER....
@martyrobinson44747 жыл бұрын
"The Greatest Show on Earth" (1952) was not her last film ... she had two more after that ... "Somebody Loves Me" (1952) and "Spring Reunion" (1957)
@hardballget6 жыл бұрын
Betty was the best!
@johnnyvee76886 жыл бұрын
To save time they should just tell Fred Allan to stop interrupting and get on with the show. I feel they could have an extra contestant if he was gone The show, which I love has gone downhill since he appeared
@deboraholsen25044 жыл бұрын
How intriguing that babies born on the same day this show aired had a birth date of 3-4-56! I love Mrs. Hartley's hair, and how many women wish that they had her face!
@jacquelinebell62012 жыл бұрын
In Australia it's 4/3/56 so doesn't work lol. It will on 3rd April.
@robertsprouse9282 Жыл бұрын
@@jacquelinebell6201, I have never understood why Brits/Aussies, and Euros reverse it. What is more important to convey first, the month or the day? First, everyone knows the year, of course. But, to say the day's number first in a date or schedule is to say that its more important to know the day than to know the month. So, I can say meet me on the 4th., not in JULY, and that conveys more specific info than saying meet me next month or two months down the road, with me then giving the number of the month to differentiate the fourth of the month that I am in from the month I am referring to, and then giving the day's number. No one says: Meet me on the seventh if they mean a different month. They say meet me on August 7th, if its any other month in the present that they give the request in. The month goes first. If one says meet me on the 7th of August, its not as terse if they need the month first as they normally would.. August 7th. Therefore, giving the number of the month first is more important than giving the day until the month is expressed. Only in languages read right to left would writing the month's number coming from the rightside before the day's number which is found moving further left, and in some of those languages they do not use the same calendar, would it make sense to( as one looks at it in U.S. English, read= left to right) list the day number first on the left.. Maybe, there is something I am missing. If so, explain it to me and educate me so that I then can see the reason for it. Thanx..
@albertgainsworth6 жыл бұрын
Betty seems to have lived life intensely, and I think it show in the gleeful way she takes part in this show.
@January.2 жыл бұрын
*shows
@drednm6 жыл бұрын
This was 1956. Betty Hutton starred in one more film, SPRING REUNION (1957) with Dana Andrews, Jean Hagen, and Laura La Plante. She also starred on Broadway in ANNIE many years later.
@wchumphries9 жыл бұрын
Fred, of the Tattoo Artist, "I think he had designs on all of us." I confess, I didn't used to be a Fred Allen fan, but I have to admit, he was very intelligent & witty.
@ibnalhaytham5 жыл бұрын
I'm not a huge fan either, but I agree with your observation. That was a wonderful line.
@mr.antique54074 жыл бұрын
#JackBennyGang
@kennethlatham31333 жыл бұрын
Yes, in an interview Johnny Carson was asked who his favourite comics were growing up. He mentioned Fred Allen, reciting a joke he made on his radio show. Mrs. Allen says to Fred, "Milton Berle called to say he can't make it over, he's sick". Fred said, "I don't know why he should be sick; there's enough mold on his jokes for him to make his own penicillin!".
@belindaalbright87983 жыл бұрын
Fred was intelligent and witty. Unfortunately his form of humor was condescending and a bit rude. Observe the looks on contestants faces after some of Fred's remarks.
@michaelangood2 жыл бұрын
i am so glad i didn't get brainwashed into getting trailer trash tattoos. no class now
@johnmonkus460010 жыл бұрын
At the end of this episode, Arlene asks the audience if they would like the walk eliminated to save time for another contestant. The write in campaign she inspired was overwhelmingly successful. After only few experiments, the final choreography of WML emerges.
@lisal89843 жыл бұрын
I would rather they got rid of the panel entrances at the beginning that took too much time.
@greeneyes22563 жыл бұрын
@@lisal8984 My Aunt was one of many who sewed for Arlene. I loved seeing her in the finished gowns. Her Dior outfits often went back to Dior, but my Aunt remade some outfits for both her stage and home wear.
@CottonO2 жыл бұрын
Hooray for Arlene!
@skyedog24 Жыл бұрын
@@lisal8984I agree that the panel entrances were always the same every time it was to be expected. But taking the walk in front of the panel was always ad-lib.
@robertjean57826 ай бұрын
@@lisal8984A introduction was required and majority of women wanted to see what Arlene and Dorothy was wearing😊
@Poorsap8 жыл бұрын
13k views and only 71 likes?! Don't be neutral folks! I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. I love watching a new-to-me show every now and then.
@WhatsMyLine8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, Elisa! I try to remind myself that the overwhelming majority of people have NO IDEA how important it is to click thumbs up and leave comments on KZbin videos. It's vital. But I don't nag people about it, because I find it incredibly annoying when I'm watching a channel I already subscribe to and I'm constantly beseeched at the end of every damned video to "click thumbs up!" "like us on Facebook!" "follow us on Twitter!". So I don't add these reminders, personally. The downside, of course, is that my videos tend to get a lot lower than average percentage of upvotes as a result. It certainly is NOT the fault of the programs themselves, which are still pretty wildly popular for a B^W game show from 60 years ago. Really appreciate the support!
@Poorsap8 жыл бұрын
+What's My Line? I have to admit that I have never realized the value of giving the thumbs up to a KZbin video - until YOUR WML? channel. I don't know if you recall, but my first comment (who knows what episode) I considered myself a unique viewer. You called my out and told me that this show attracted viewers under 20..(I'm 40). I laugh at my narrow perspective even now! Cheers!
@WhatsMyLine8 жыл бұрын
Elisa Ruiz Hey, it still surprises me how wide an audience this show attracts! :)
@steveo2888 жыл бұрын
I always thought views = money on monetized channels. So, how important is a click on thumbs up? I doubt that adds any extra cash. Yet you say it is vital. Please enlighten to the people who don't completely understand this....like me. :)
@WhatsMyLine8 жыл бұрын
steveo288 The reason upvotes (and comments) are so important is that they have a big effect on how much the KZbin search engine recommends a video. The more the search engine recommends a video, the more people see it. Hope that makes it clearer!
@ross_spirou_photography7 жыл бұрын
John got something wrong by saying there's something masochistic about him when in fact, a masochist is a person that enjoys pain while a sadist is a person that enjoys inflicting pain which is what John did by making the panel feel they'd be blind folded when they were not expected to
@Beson-SE10 жыл бұрын
Arlene asks John if the show could save time for more contestants by doing away with the "walk-by". John tells her to ask the audience, so she does. She invites viewers to "write in" if they wanted to skip this part of the show in the future. Very interesting that the elimination of the walk-by came from Arlene and perhaps all the panel! 23:15
@WhatsMyLine10 жыл бұрын
I forgot all about this! And the walk down the panel was all but eliminated 3 weeks later, so I doubt this is a coincidence. Thanks for drawing attention to this, Johan!
@Beson-SE10 жыл бұрын
What's My Line? My pleasure, Gary!
@nezlos26987 жыл бұрын
What's My Line? I
@lauracollins41956 жыл бұрын
Ten points to Arlene Francis for throwing a stick of dynamite into the asinine Walk of Shame! That was a waste of time at best, and insulting at worst - feeling men’s muscles, asking the contestant to do a dance step, examining clothing labels, asking a woman to balance a book on her head in the first episode! Yowch.
@ladya19536 жыл бұрын
@@lauracollins4195 Well, to be honest, in the last days of The Walk there was only a quick handshake, thankfully! Well, darn! I posted the above too fast! Arlene just grabbed Mr. Neely's arm!
@martyrobinson44749 жыл бұрын
20:47 - the song in the "jukebox" at that time was Betty's cover of "Hit the Road to Dreamland" written by Harold Arlen. Orchestration by The Vic Schoen Orchestra (Schoen was Betty's brother-in-law at the time).
@Marcel_Audubon Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was wondering just that!
@amycarmichael27486 жыл бұрын
Love Betty Hutton
@oksills6 жыл бұрын
Amy Carmichael I’ve always loved Amy Carmichael! What an amazing woman with whom to share a name!
@440327 жыл бұрын
Getting rid of, first, the wild guesses and then the walk gave more time to chat with the guests and made it more relaxed show. Also, the final contestant had a little more air time. Both good moves.
@robertjean57826 ай бұрын
WML NOT a talk show😊
@440326 ай бұрын
@@robertjean5782 You'd rather have the wild guesses and the walk and just run people in and out with no conversation?
@robertjean57826 ай бұрын
@@44032 That's what they were doing 1950 till now. It's not a talk show!
@440326 ай бұрын
@@robertjean5782 It was not what they did from 1956-67. Which is better?
@Dr.Pepper001 Жыл бұрын
RIP Betty. You were the best, and you were willing to give up an acting career to take care of your children.
@mikejschin4 жыл бұрын
At 18:27, almost at the end of the tattoo artist's segment, Arlene says "It's a plug for The Rose Tattoo". She was referring to a film of that name that was based on a Tennessee Williams play and premiered in New York about 3 months before this episode. The star of the picture was the Italian actress Anna Magnani, who won the Best Actress Academy Award for her role. Miss Magnani was the MG on WML on April 12, 1953.
@Beson-SE10 жыл бұрын
Betty Hutton was voted Mother of the Year for 1956 and she made a very movingly speech about the City of Hope's juvenile cancer wing, especially for the children who suffered from leukemia. 22:14
@jackanthony9769 жыл бұрын
It's ironic that Betty Hutton was voted Mother of the Year as Betty herself was estranged from her three daughters as you can see from her interview on Good Morning America. None of Betty's three daughters showed up at her funeral in 2007.
@juliansinger9 жыл бұрын
+JACK ANTHONY From a brief wiki-dive, it does sound as if she had some strong addictions, which often do impact depressingly on relationships. (But man, what talent.)
@timothydouglas79494 жыл бұрын
She was good in The greatest show on earth!
@lancedukel34363 жыл бұрын
Betty was a phenom. Nuff said.
@jenniferk49236 жыл бұрын
“They float upside down...”. I love sassy John
@annakaminski44065 жыл бұрын
Such a pleasure to watch.
@erenunal4 жыл бұрын
13:08 Fred Allen's comeback is priceless. Someone needs to compile a video of every obfuscating explanation delivered by John Daly, followed by the poor panelist's reaction to it.
@t4texastomjohnnycat9786 жыл бұрын
I've read that she had some problems (don't we all?), but she sure was cute, talented, & funny.
@frederickcombs86612 жыл бұрын
Such a sensation for many years and then completely dumped by Hollywood... a sad story. But Betty came from poverty and by luck and ambition made it to the top at Paramont Pictures. Just see her in Annie Get Your Gun to see how capable Betty was.
@lisal89843 жыл бұрын
My favorite show
@kenwooldridge821613 күн бұрын
This episode really illustrates just how much better penmanship was prioritized back then!
@Kmac0053 жыл бұрын
Betty Hutton could do it all. She costarred in my favorite comedy "The Miracle of Morgan's Creek". She couldn't quite match Eddie Bracken, but it wasn't for the lack of trying.
@kbrodeur5 жыл бұрын
I love this woman.
@jimredwine9195 жыл бұрын
Troubled soul, but one of the greats!
@peternagy-im4be2 жыл бұрын
Fred Allen?
@robertjean57826 ай бұрын
Betty not Fred😊
@Merrida1007 жыл бұрын
Is anyone else getting double ads? I'm getting back to back commercials that cannot be skipped through even though the tab comes up that I can skip. Usually not a big deal but when a single ad is 90 seconds?
@robertjean57826 ай бұрын
Be glad we have these shows to enjoy!!😊
@bostonblackie95034 жыл бұрын
Betty looks good!
@robertjean57826 ай бұрын
Fantastic Betty😊
@anneroy45604 жыл бұрын
March 4th and Fred Allen died on the 17th .... such a loss ...
@scottpardee63032 жыл бұрын
And he does mention his advanced age...
@jacquelinebell62012 жыл бұрын
Only 61 I think. A year younger than me. Too young.
@January.2 жыл бұрын
She's wonderful
@joanbennettnyc2 жыл бұрын
Arlene gets sassy there at the end! Good for her. Glad they eliminated the catwalk.
@yawlltube4 жыл бұрын
"There are myriad beautiful fish...in the corals around Bermuda." Titters all round
@stevehinnenkamp56258 жыл бұрын
God bless Ms. Hutton! Even then the snobbish though brilliant panel could not forgive you for taking over Annie Oakley. You were better than she. If only your co-star had not been biased.
@SymphonyBrahms4 жыл бұрын
She was not good in Annie Get Your Gun. Too manic and exuberant. A better choice would have been Doris Day.
@stevehinnenkamp56254 жыл бұрын
She came close to portraying an American legend in a Hollywood musical. What? You don't think Annie removed from the sticks would have too much exuberance compared to the rest? Her let it hang out performance is why I love her in this role. The Texas dirt almost ruined her portrayal. Thank the director.
@sharksport01 Жыл бұрын
It's fun to watch phoney Dorothy try to be snobbish with her rotted lower teeth.
@Beson-SE10 жыл бұрын
When John is having a conference with a very beautiful woman who has a long right-handed ponytail, Fred says "Her hair is just arranged properly for a conference". :-) 4:45
@beccawiley66846 жыл бұрын
Imagine a time when leukemia was a certain death sentence!
@preppysocks2095 жыл бұрын
So many people who comment on these episodes wish they could have been alive then or would want to have been alive then. Whatever the upsides of that, no one would ever want to go back to the medical treatments, medicines, diagnostics, and knowledge then compared to now.
@kattahj4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, hearing that made me so sad, and at the same time happy that science has made progress.
@denisep.20374 жыл бұрын
My sister passed away 2 years ago from leukemia. She was 57.
@igkoigko99503 жыл бұрын
@@denisep.2037 I’m saddened by your loss. Overall leukemia has a 70% recovery rate, but some forms, adult and AML have high mortality rates.
@belindaalbright87983 жыл бұрын
The initial faces when it as announced Mr. Neely was a tattoo artist is indicative of the times. Tats were something sailors/military members wore. Outside that area of work, people with tats were considered to be of questionable character.
@peternagy-im4be2 жыл бұрын
Questionable?
@mikejschin5 жыл бұрын
When Fred asks if John had been invited to Grace Kelly's wedding, he was of course referring to the marriage of Grace Kelly to Prince Rainier of Monaco. The marriage took place the following month, with the civil ceremony on April 18, 1956, and the church ceremony the following day. Ms. Kelly had met Prince Rainier in May 1955. At the time, she was dating the French actor Jean-Pierre Aumont, who was the MG on WML on September 4, 1955.
@sdgakatbk2 жыл бұрын
Good catch.
@sharksport01 Жыл бұрын
Really. I thought it was Grace Slick.
@robertsprouse9282 Жыл бұрын
@@sharksport01, man.. she had an oily personality..
@sansacro0078 ай бұрын
Always knew the name but never saw Hutton in anything. (Will watch now.) Sad to read about her difficulties in life, though. She had such a lovely and charming demeanor here, although I can sense the potential mania that others here cite in her performances.
@randylovering246 жыл бұрын
The decision to cut the walk of shame was postponed due to Fred Allen passing
@williamdunphy3526 жыл бұрын
Lee Vines is the announcer.
@donellamackenzie93504 жыл бұрын
Betty Hutton and others have given to much information to the panel be better if they answered just yes or no
@stevenwebb79365 жыл бұрын
💖💖💖💖💖💖
@sdgakatbk2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the reference to Old Baldy has to do with the battles in North Korea in the early 50s.
@juanettebutts97825 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice John forgot to put out Betty Hutton's name plate? Don't recall him forgetting before. (He's forgotten to take them down.)
@mikejschin5 жыл бұрын
He didn't put one up for Robert Taylor the previous week either.
@robertjean57826 ай бұрын
Names were superimposed on the screen😊
@owenrock692 ай бұрын
IM so glad that Fallout used some of her songs as I would of never really discovered her....shes such a great talent
@douglaschance24373 жыл бұрын
Arlene and Dorothy look lovely tonight
@igkoigko99503 жыл бұрын
Arlene surely does.
@robertjean57826 ай бұрын
Arlene gorgeous 😊
@annettekelly1592 Жыл бұрын
17:45. Mr. Daly! Hilarious!!
@tugginalong5 ай бұрын
I loved when Fred Allen was on the panel
@lilybean8355 жыл бұрын
I wish they spent a lot more time with the tattoo guy. That was cut way, way too short.
@robbob12344 жыл бұрын
I agree. This is when having a tattoo designated something very special or unique about the individual, not just a bunch of guys getting barbed wire or drunk girls heading down the street to get tramp stamps on their 18th birthdays.
@jerrylee82613 жыл бұрын
@@robbob1234 Tattoos are trashy and unattractive. Have seen men who are handsome but detract from their beauty by having their necks tattooed or even worse their faces.
@marywebb91273 жыл бұрын
@@jerrylee8261 💯
@robertjean57826 ай бұрын
WML NOT a talk show😊
@Wizardofgosz7 жыл бұрын
No, really. If Mrs Hartley is walking around in the water with her husband, what ARE the other people doing? I don't get it. I mean the people she is supposed to be showing?
@Sgt_Glory5 жыл бұрын
I took a trip to Nassau in the 90s with my parents and we took a helmet diving tour with a company named Hartley, I wonder now if it was related to Mrs. Hartley, perhaps run by her children? To answer your question the entire tour group wears positive pressure helmets, and just your regular bathing suit. The helmet is heavy enough that you can stand upright on the sea floor and you follow the guide along on a short walking tour while air is pumped down to everyone from the boat above. They lower a ladder down and you climb back up to the surface. At the time I took the trip the guide communicated with cuecard signage along the way.
@garyzerr98218 жыл бұрын
That tattoo artist would certainly have lots of customers these days, but even now there aren't many "from the neck up!"
@loissimmons65587 жыл бұрын
Something that has been around since the beginning of the 20th century is "permanent" makeup which is basically a tattooing of makeup like effects, primarily on the brows, around the eye and on the lips. It is still a popular alternative for some women in today's day and age.
@Abdi-uy1kh7 жыл бұрын
henna?
@chrisn72599 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know which record Betty would have had on jukeboxes at this time? Seems unlikely...
@billpetersen95358 жыл бұрын
+Chris N " HIT THE ROAD TO DREAMLAND" IN 1956 BY ARLEN AND MERCER
@chrisn72598 жыл бұрын
+Bill Petersen Thanks!
@lucyflorey91525 жыл бұрын
My cousin at 6 years of age was complaining of tiredness and had dark circles under his eyes. It was in the 50's. He was so sweet, such a good little boy. He was dead within two weeks from leukemia
@miketheyunggod25342 жыл бұрын
Can't tell the stars from the contestants.
@joycejean-baptiste43553 жыл бұрын
Did not know that tattoo artist was a thing back then accept for guys in the military . I saw that a lot back in the day.
@robertjean57826 ай бұрын
Tattoos were around hundreds of years ago in many foreign countries 😊
@ChrisHansonCanada Жыл бұрын
CONDUCTS TOURS UNDERWATER TATTOO ARTIST
@scottm85795 жыл бұрын
Girls! Girls! Watch out! There's a two legged animal running about!
@jgsmile13314 жыл бұрын
Betty was on a Gunsmoke episode.
@smallies71547 жыл бұрын
what do they slick their hair back with?
@dcasper85144 жыл бұрын
ASME. 40 WEIGHT
@marywebb91273 жыл бұрын
Grease
@furmamafur22 жыл бұрын
Brillcream
@peternagy-im4be2 жыл бұрын
Cooking oil
@robertjean57826 ай бұрын
Gel The style was named The wave😊
@MrYfrank146 жыл бұрын
4:21- John!
@seywhut298510 ай бұрын
It's always fun to watch Dorothy when the audience laughs at anything she says. It really irritates her. You can see it in her facial expression.
@robertjean57826 ай бұрын
No It gives Dorothy a clue😊
@ChrisHansonCanada2 жыл бұрын
11:00 If he had been wearing corduroy pants, it would have created a racket.
@permijitdunkley16972 жыл бұрын
...
@jerrylee82613 жыл бұрын
It surprises when I see actors fall into poverty after a successful career. They have to be poor money managers.
@redwingfan93932 жыл бұрын
Mother of the year? Her daughters suggest otherwise.
@Chuck0856 Жыл бұрын
How times have changed - -a tattoo artist was unusual back then,
@robertjean57826 ай бұрын
NO tattoo artist hundreds of years ago were thriving😊
@rosered1038 жыл бұрын
I have just finished reading Zsa Zsa Gabor's book, One Lifetime Is Not Enough, and unfortunately she did not have anything nice to say about Betty Hutton.
@Moore-s5p7 жыл бұрын
R R you may be confusing Barbara Hutton with Betty Hutton.
@lauracollins41956 жыл бұрын
Tia Moore - That’s right. Zsa Zsa Gabor and Barbara Hutton (not Betty) were both involved with Porfirio Rubirosa.
@SymphonyBrahms4 жыл бұрын
Betty Hutton was not my favorite actress. Too manic and over the top. I didn't like her performance in Annie Get Your Gun. I would have preferred Doris Day, who actually recorded an album of the songs with Robert Goulet.
@accomplice553 жыл бұрын
And, of course, the role was supposed to be Judy Garland's.
@marywebb91273 жыл бұрын
Betty was great!
@marywebb91273 жыл бұрын
@@accomplice55 Judy was fired. A few numbers are on KZbin where she did it. Betty fit the part better.
@brianoyler7062 жыл бұрын
Symphony Brahms...Doris Day did not record Annie album until early 60s. My mother has it. Annie film was made in 49-50. Betty Hutton was a better choice to replace Garland who again was messing up with tardies, no shows and illness🤦🤦 Doris was still a starlet at Warner's and was probably not even considered to do Annie. Unfortunately, MGM cast and staff were not too nice to Betty. (I suspect jealousy and resentment because Garland was replaced.) But MGM was a business with film schedules and deadlines. It didn't have time and money to deal with Garland's antics. After looking at the few film scenes shot with Garland, I can conclude that she was too messed up even to have been considered. Betty by far was the best. Hollywood at that time wasn't going to take a chance with box office with Broadway's Ethel Merman who originated role.
@kurts79696 жыл бұрын
Arlene introduced Fred as "one of the nicest most ingratiating men in our profession". Either Arlene doesn't know the meaning of "ingratiating" or she meant to insult him.
@igkoigko99503 жыл бұрын
You refer to the meaning of ingratiating that which “is intended to gain favor,” but it also means “pleasing, capable of winning favor,” with no negative connotation
@oliviamartini97003 жыл бұрын
@@igkoigko9950 It is never used as a compliment.
@igkoigko99503 жыл бұрын
@@oliviamartini9700 Olivia, that’s not an ingratiating thing to write. Linked below is a literary reference distinguishing between an ingratiating manner, which is bad, and being ingratiating, which is good. books.google.com/books/about/The_Vagabond_in_Literature.html?id=YRfDDwAAQBAJ More importantly, I have no idea why I care, except when I read “never” (or “always”) I usually try to find an exception.
@oliviamartini97003 жыл бұрын
@@igkoigko9950 Very well, then, it is never used as a compliment now. Like many words, its connotations have changed. It has always meant currying favour, but although that was seen as charming in the 17th & 18th centuries, it means being an ass-kissing sycophant today. If you don't believe me, try it out as a compliment on someone you know.
@igkoigko99503 жыл бұрын
@@oliviamartini9700 Hopefully not someone much bigger.
@frankies946510 ай бұрын
I love these old shows. But, i couldnt stand Fred Allen. Sorry. I hated panelist who tried to be funny instead of playing the game. Thats why i couldnt stsnd Orson Bean on To tell the truth. I loved Arlene , dorothy and bennett cerf. I fast forward when fred is on. Boooo!
@robertjean57826 ай бұрын
You're a newbie and as such Fred's dry wit wasn't savored by your generation 😊 For 40 years millions of people enjoyed his sense of humor and brilliant statements 😊