What's My Line? - Gen. Mark Clark; Rodgers & Hammerstein (Feb 19, 1956)

[@scottpardee6303]

Wow, here I am in 2024, 87 years old, remembering the various shows of Rodgers and Hammerstein. Watching them is moving. That’s why I love this show.

[@robertjean5782]

Same here 87 2024😅

[@sansacro007]

Great speaking voice, General Clark. . .

[@GingerHey]

Such a treat to see Rodgers and Hammerstein...a wonderful team who wrote some of the most beautiful words and melodies ever!

[@nancyhowell4505]

*Rodgers 🙂

[@GingerHey]

@@nancyhowell4505 oops, I corrected!

[@joelweisberg]

A great American right there. I salute you Gen.Clark. Thanks sincerely for your service in America's last just war.

[@vickisawyer7405]

I love "what's my line", the oldies are the best!

[@sophiemorrison9820]

I don't think they could bring this show back today and do it justice.

[@ToddSF]

I'm thrilled to see this episode with Rodgers & Hammerstein as the Mystery Guest! There are relatively few things I love more than a Rodgers & Hammerstein musical!

[@arbyfatbuckle1733]

so agree.

[@jgriffin7]

I love they address the mispronunciation of Hammerstein's name. That has always bothered me, and now I know why!

[@juanettebutts9782]

John says "HammerSTINE" the first time and "HammerSTEEN" later. Arlene and Bennett say "HammerSTEEN." I was taught when someone's name is spelled "-ein" (-hein, -stein, -lein, -heim), it's pronounced "ine" not "een." Considering how many times grammar has changed over the decades, anything can be pronounced -- or not -- any way these days. 😉

[@jakubgalinski2685]

Juanette Butts That's how I was taught too and I can't understand why so many people make that mistake.

[@paulbradley5842]

I love this show. I learn so much every time I watch it as well for the commedy

[@dianefiske-foy4717]

I enjoyed this episode very much 👍🏻🥰‼️

[@laurahoward5426]

Huge applause for Rodgers & Hammerstein

[@nancyhowell4505]

The ladies dressed so beautifully and were made up to match!

[@jacquelinebell6201]

Little did they know how short a time Fred had left. Loved Arlenes affectionate interaction with him.

[@lauracollins4195]

I am impressed by General Mark Clark; he seems strong, humble, steady. It was calming to listen to him speak.

[@ClarkRahman]

He spoke so highly of his wife. That usually demonstrates the quality of great character.

[@frankmarano7530]

Not so! Read the military history books on WW2. He screwed up at Salerno and Anzio, and got my Uncle and thousands of soldiers killed at Anzio. Allowing several divisions of the German Army escape to fight again another day. His egotistical need for glory to enter Rome without first blocking the German army is considered a major blunder and flaw in his character. He has the opposite reputation compared to Generals beloved by their soldiers such as Patton, Bradley, Marshall, Truscott and Eisenhower.

[@stanmaxkolbe]

@@frankmarano7530 That’s true I read a book by Siegfried Knappe an officer in the German Army during World War II at Anzio. He said they were shocked the Americans arrived and waited two days and didn’t attack?

[@ednorton47]

He fooled you.

[@robertfairburn9979]

A terrible general who sat idly on the beach letting the Germans escape

[@keithnaylor1981]

Rogers and Hammerstein - responsible for the greatest shows ever! Impossible to calculate how much joy they brought into the world with Oklahoma, Carousel, South Pacific, The Sound of Music, The King and I, and Show Boat.

[@cfindegreen]

The music in Showboat was written by Jerome Kern. Hammerstein wrote the lyrics. Edna Ferber wrote the book.

[@donnacook8994]

Wonderfully talented men who shared that talent for us all to enjoy. Thank you WML, for sharing that with us! LOVE them both!!!! 💕💕

[@chipurBillWhite]

R & H: beyond legendary. Consider the songs - the music written by Rodgers. And the beautiful lyrics from Hammerstein.

[@allenjones3130]

Lennon and McCartney could never have written anything remotely resembling the beautiful, uplifting music and lyrics of Rodgers and Hammerstein!

[@loissimmons6558]

The official name of Gen. Clark's college is "The Citadel, The Military College of South Carolina." It is located in Charleston, SC. (It was never located in Connecticut.) Currently, most of the students are cadets although there are some students who are non-cadet civilian candidates for an undergraduate degree. The ratio of cadets to non-cadets is approximately 6:1. It was founded in 1842, closed in 1865 and reopened in 1882. It became integrated in 1966 and coeducational in 1996. Gen. Clark served as its President from 1954 to 1965. He retired from all gainful pursuits at that point in his life.

[@preppysocks209]

which means that although the US military had been integrated prior to the General's becoming President at the Citadel, and notwithstanding his command of integrated forces in Korea, he agreed to run a segregated institution, which remained so for the entirety of his time as President

[@robertjean5782]

A plethora of information as always, very much appreciated 😊

[@zacharydunlap-tunnage2220]

Around 0:37, if anyone's interested, that's _original_ announcer Lee Vines, substituting for his successor, Hal Simms.

[@mikejschin]

This episode took place on the 11th anniversary of a famous event that took place halfway around the world from where General Clark was leading the Fifth Army: the Marines landed on a small island called Iwo Jima on February 19, 1945.

[@jp0308]

@mikejschin: Esprit de corps! Always faithful! USMC

[@mikejschin]

@@jp0308 Thanks for your comment, JP. Semper fi.

[@vincentdaly78]

At about 7:15 Dorothy thinks she has it, after finding out that he has a connection to a university, and asks "Are you related to anyone famous?" She was thinking of Milton Eisenhower, Ike's brother, president of Johns Hopkins.

[@robertjean5782]

Dorothy was a investigative reporter for years 😊

[@SDG.12]

the fred allen richard rodgers connection from the early 1920s!!

[@loissimmons6558]

In his introduction of John Daly at the beginning of this episode, Bennett Cerf calls John "our own great pretender". The Platters's song "The Great Pretender", featuring the great Tony Williams as lead vocalist, reached number one on the Billboard charts the day before and would stay in the #1 spot for two weeks. It was the second straight Top 10 hit for the Platters on the overall Billboard chart and their second straight #1 record on Billboard's R&B charts (following "Only You"). The panel at this time didn't indicate being especially knowledgeable about rock or R&B, but Bennett knew about this one at least.

[@onegem721]

These guys made music for The Sound of Music - wooooow..

[@GingerHey]

And for Carousel, Oklahoma, South Pacific, and many others

[@Bigstooler0]

General Mark Clark, vociferously proud commander of the 442 Japanese American infantry in WWII.

[@chuckendweiss4849]

Bigstooler0 As he should be. That unit was award unit awards and they reviewed many Medal of Honors

[@davecompton5847]

commander of the entire Fifth Army fighting in italy!!!!!

[@protamine4]

Clark was no bleeding heart, but he had a real soft spot for the Japanese Americans who fought under him in the Fifth Army. During and after the war he spoke of the exceptional fighting skills of the 442nd and the predicament they were in to prove their loyalty to the United States. The 442nd was so good Clark objected vehemently when the unit was transferred to France under another command. Ironically before his combat command, Clark was involved in investigating the feasibility of evacuating all Japanese Americans on the west coast. He opposed it, although it is not clear if it was for logistical reasons or he felt there was no internal threat. Regardless, he remained a strong advocate for his Nisei veterans after the war. He had many faults as a commander, but he should be commended for all of this.

[@moldyoldie7888]

@@protamine4 You are aware of Gen. Clark's involvement with the internment issue. Do you teach history?

[@protamine4]

@@moldyoldie7888 No, I like to read WW2 history and I came across that fact and I found it so ironic given Clark’s positive opinion and support of the 442nd. Like I said in my OP, Clark had his faults and even today here in Texas his name can stir up bitter arguments because of all the Texans killed at Rapido River and the Italian campaign. But like all other public figures Clark imho was not all bad or all good. It’s more nuanced and he always struck me as a pretty ordinary and far from brilliant or clever commander. He may have been a better administrator or staff officer than a fighter. It seems in today’s professional military someone like Clark would get nowhere near a major combat command.

[@downtonabbeyfreak]

23:47 Mr. Rodgers cups Dorothy's face after he shakes her hand. It's really sweet

[@babyfir77]

Thanks for mentioning that, about Mr Rodgers and Dorothy.....I overlooked that so I went back to check that part out!

[@rorybo2899]

i dont mean to be so offtopic but does someone know of a method to log back into an Instagram account? I stupidly lost the account password. I appreciate any help you can offer me.

[@vivaanaidan4789]

@Rory Bo instablaster ;)

[@correioanacabral]

So observant :D True, too! I loved that subtle gesture, so sweet

[@mikejschin]

Rodgers and Hammerstein were presumably in New York for the premier of the film "Carousel", which had been released 3 days before this show.

[@neilmidkiff]

I think both of them lived in New York City regularly anyway.

[@esclad]

Ironic the General was talking about Help Your Heart Fund. A month later, Fred Allen dropped dead of a heart attack on March 17, aged 61.

[@zapkvr]

Coincidence maybe. Not irony at all. A heart attack is not even close to unexpected.

[@sansacro007]

@@zapkvr much more common and unexpected back then. . .

[@robbycan]

John Daly did say Hammerstein right the first time, while Arlene Francis and Bennett Cerf said Hammersteen... only after that did John Daly say Hammersteen once... but boy were they quick to tell him HE said it wrong....

[@MB-vn5qb]

Yep, you're one of the few that caught it.

[@dennett73mk]

Yes I caught that right away. Cerf was kind of a jerk to accuse John Daly when it was himself who mispronounced. I've seen other episodes where Cerf has high opinions of himself. Well, they're all dead anyway....

[@captainjay1034]

Arlene looks absolutely ravishing on this show

[@CoolJazz39]

She is HOT !

[@RADIUMGLASS]

You can hear whistles when she introduces herself.

[@juanettebutts9782]

Her mask was a hoot!

[@igkoigko9950]

I enjoy looking at Arlene and listening to Bennett, which isn’t meant to imply Arlene doesn’t also sound good, or that Bennett doesn’t look fine.

[@barbarapalmer8224]

John Daley has a lovely smiling face and such a lovely smile..A real cutie..

[@jerrylee8261]

He has a lovely disposition, too. Never seems fazed.

[@canyoubelievethis220]

Some of his reactions have me almost on the floor laughing. And love, love, loved Dot Kilgallen. So sad what happened to her. I loved her personality and humbleness.

[@robertjean5782]

​@@jerrylee8261In 1960 John will divorce his wife and marry a woman 15years younger then him😮

[@DaninVirgina-mg7rf]

@@robertjean5782 There had to be something wrong with him as no one can have that pleasant face and personality-karma would not allow it. I think his ex-wife died from a stairway fall or something.

[@robertjean5782]

@@DaninVirgina-mg7rf HIS first wife died after the divorce

[@GeometricMason]

Crazy to think that this was three years before The Sound of Music first opened on Broadway.

[@jackj5981]

I was 4 years old when this show aired

[@photo161]

Towering figures in the history of American popular music. I remember well the headlines the day Hammerstein passed away. It was virtually a national day of mourning.

[@kennethlatham3133]

Awestruck by his talent. Ain't but a handful of lyricists with his talent. Someone to aspire to be. Hart, Loesser, Lerner, David, Taupin, Simon. Lennon-McCartney.

[@canamus1768]

@@kennethlatham3133 hammerstein also served as mentor (and from all accounts as a surrogate father) to stephen sondheim, who arguably was as influential to musical theatre in the latter half of the 20th century as r & h were (both individually and collectively) to the first half. an amazing legacy by any estimation.

[@cfindegreen]

Sadly both were heavy smokers and they suffered from it. Rodgers had throat/jaw cancer & Hammerstein died from lung cancer.

[@timothyhughes1904]

Arlene was sophisticated and witty. But she was also one, fine fox.

[@robertjean5782]

Gorgeous woman 😊

[@BeatlesFanYeah]

Although both Rogers and Hammerstein are the most important thing to happen to Broadway, I believe there should be a statue erected to Oscar Hammerstein II for influencing the the Great White Way for at least 100 years.

[@zapkvr]

I can't believe there isn't already. Much more influential than Dylan or McCartney or any of the pop dregs of the eighties.

[@battlegirldeb]

I so agree. These Mr Hammerstein is the man who inspired my favorite composer Stephen Sondheim who inspired Lin Manuel Miranda. So without Oscar Hammerstein there would be no Hamilton the Musical.

[@robertjean5782]

​@@zapkvrIt was the 60s😊

[@joncheskin]

What would it be like to be Napoleon or Washington, the General in Chief. Mark Clark might know, he commanded the US forces in Korea at one point.

[@QuestoPiccoloKaiju]

John did say it right (at least once). #justiceforjohndaly2017

[@davidarcudi230]

R and H are awesome

[@arbyfatbuckle1733]

Bennett knew them on another episode and disqualified himself.

[@annwagner5779]

When this show aired, my parents had been married for a few months. But they wouldn’t have seen it - they didn’t have a TV until the 60s.

[@mrpuniverse2]

Miss McMahon has seen a lot of members in her business

[@dianefiske-foy4717]

🤣😂🤣😂

[@ruthnoelmarie...9061]

Let's start at the very beginning A very good place to start When you read you begin with A-be-see When you sing you begin with do-re-mi Do-re-mi, do-re-mi The first three notes just happen to be Do-re-mi, do-re-mi Do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti Let's see if I can make it easy Doe, a deer, a female deer Ray, a drop of golden sun Me, a name I call myself Far, a long, long way to run Sew, a needle pulling thread La, a note to follow Sew Tea, a drink with jam and bread That will bring us back to Do (oh-oh-oh) Do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti-do So-do! Now children, do-re-mi-fa-so and so on are only the tools we use to build a song Once you have these notes in your heads you can sing a million different tunes by mixing them up Like this So Do La Fa Mi Do Re Can you do that? So Do La Fa Mi Do Re So Do La Ti Do Re Do So Do La Ti Do Re Do Now, put it all together So Do La Fa Mi Do Re, So Do La Ti Do Re Do Good! But it doesn't mean anything So we put in words One word for every note Like this When you know the notes to sing You can sing most anything Together! When you know the notes to sing You can sing most anything Doe, a deer, a female deer Ray, a drop of golden sun Me, a name I call myself Far, a long, long way to run Sew, a needle pulling thread La, a note to follow Sew Tea, a drink with jam and bread That will bring us back to Do Do Re Mi Fa So La Ti Do Do Ti La So Fa Mi Re Do Mi Mi Mi So So Re Fa Fa La Ti Ti When you know the notes to sing You can sing most anything Doe, a deer, a female deer Ray, a drop of golden sun Me, a name I call myself Far, a long, long way to run Sew, a needle pulling thread La, a note to follow Sew Tea, a drink with jam and bread That will bring us back to Do So Do Re La Fa Mi Mi Do Fa Re So So Do La La Fa Ti La So Fa Mi Re Ti Do oh oh Ti Do So Do Source: LyricFind 🙏🏻🎼🦌

[@allanshulstad1783]

They did not actually write the song..

[@GingerHey]

@@allanshulstad1783 What?

[@latsnojokelee6434]

My father was a student at the citadel when Clark was there. He acted as one of Clark's aides.

[@juliansinger]

Does your dad have any stories about him? (Probably not, but never hurts to ask.)

[@latsnojokelee6434]

He doesn’t have any particular stories, but I have pictures of him in his citadel uniform with the hat on and everything escorting the general’s wife.

[@latsnojokelee6434]

This was big news in the small town My dad grew up in. I think there were some newspaper articles about it and a picture. .

[@chuckendweiss4849]

Love the look on the panel when they can’t figure out the guest

[@davidspedding8349]

hammerstein looks like a real tough heavyweight boxer

[@laurahoward5426]

Lots of Turkish baths, mud baths, steam room people...it must have been titillating in the 50s

[@robertjean5782]

Baths started in 1920s immigrants weren't able to bath, the government started a bath business 😊

[@kasperjoonatan6014]

I am so mad at Bennett, in the beginning it was figured out that he was not from east coast, and then that it was east of Mississippi, he should have known that it was from the southern states.

[@robertjean5782]

I'd send a text and reprimand him😅

[@miketheyunggod2534]

Cute looking dress on Dorothy.

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

Not much time left, Fred.. so sad

[@Tahoenjr]

just about one month

[@blackie75]

Yeah, kind of ironic for him that Mark Clark was on speaking about heart disease....little did they know. Well, Fred might have known for a while, but I'm sure the others didn't.

[@robertjean5782]

If only their was a time machine😢

[@davidahlstrom7533]

What a gentleman General Mark Clark was. He did have some pretty big problems at Anzio but recovered his reputation much on the years after.

[@ChrisCrossClash]

That clown let an entire German army group escape, just so he could take all the glory of taking Rome, which in turn caused thousands more Allied soldiers deaths, the guy was a fool.

[@lllowkee6533]

Richard Rogers is only guest I’ve seen who printed their name. ? All students prior to 1990s were taught to write cursive.

[@gregh7400]

I like that General Mark Clark didn't sign in using "General" as part of his name.

[@CDU916]

Greg H: I noticed that as well, and thought immediately well of him. Didn't he also have a wonderful manner and fine speaking voice? ☺

[@gregh7400]

Yes, he did.

[@multitieredinvestor5246]

All retired military may address themselves with their retired rank.

[@stanmaxkolbe]

@@multitieredinvestor5246 Yes but I never do.

[@Retroscoop]

Forgetting for a while the magnificent career of Mark Clark, I never noticed before he had such enormous ears :)

[@donnacook8994]

@retroscoop All the better to hear the enemy with , as well as impertinent and rude comments by disrespectful and illmannered boors.

[@steveburrus5526]

for jhow many more wml's did Daly say that the panel is "up to their old tricks"?

[@robertjean5782]

Almost every episode 😊

[@laurahoward5426]

South Pacific🥰

[@sjbobkins9442]

Funny, Clark refused to allow photos to be taken of him unless the photographers took his right side, and damn if the camera is positioned to do that very thing on WML. He tilts his head that way 99% of the time he appears.

[@DeathBringer769]

+SJ Bobkins Guess he missed the memo that you can't control other people's perceptions of you... You can try, but it's a fool's errand and ultimately can end up being counter-productive to your end goal (whatever it may be) as well as a waste of time.

[@crispincain5373]

+SJ Bobkins At 10:06 the General exposes his left side perfectly more than once as he turns to talk to John Daly.

[@ruthnoelmarie...9061]

Sounds like “The Waltons...” 🤣🤣🤣

[@oswaldomilano3848]

ARLENE was the first to pronounce hammersteen, wrong, not john,but bennet always wants tu pull his leg.

[@Sylvander1911]

Bennett was the second JCD was the only one who got it right

[@richardr2555]

The panel said that John Daly didn't pronounce Hammerstein correctly but he did. It was Arlene Francis who pronounced it wrong. Funny since she performs on Broadway.

[@19gregske55]

In German, the second vowel gets the emphasis.

[@robertjean5782]

Stuff happens 😅

[@hopicard]

I am the first watcher!! :)

[@WhatsMyLine]

You win a silver dollar!

[@RikardPeterson]

I'm the 616th viewer - do I win 616 dollars?

[@WhatsMyLine]

No, but I will flip all the cards for you. Unfortunately, you've already pledged all your winnings for the evening to charity, so it won't do your bank balance any good.

[@waynehowell6160]

What's My Line? I would like to donate my $3,244 prize for being the 3,244th viewer to the Destitute Webmasters Fund.

[@ednorton47]

General Clark always played to the audience rather than simply doing his job.

[@savethetpc6406]

John was right, and Bennett was wrong. At about 22:00 John clearly pronounces Oscar Hammerstein's name as "Mr. Hammer*_stine_* " -- NOT Hammer_*steen_* ." It's true that he pronounces it "Hammersteen" at about 23:33, though. Bennett, on the other hand, consistently pronounced it "Hammersteen" throughout, even though he's the one who brought up Oscar's wish to be called "Hammer*_stine_* " at 24:12 or so. The funny thing is, the only place I think I've ever heard Oscar Hammerstein's name pronounced "Hammer_*steen_* " is on WML. I had always heard it pronounced "Hammer*_stine_* " before! Perhaps it took until the 1960s for that pronunciation to become widely accepted. I think Bennett knew both Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein in college, though -- and one of them (I forget which one) even since high school, so if Bennett continued to pronounce it the "steen" way, despite knowing Oscar's preference, he must have known that the "stine" way was an affectation and not the way his family had pronounced it or even the way he had when he was younger! The Jan. 6, 1952 episode of WML, (which is available for viewing only at the Paley Center for Media in NYC and Los Angeles), features Oscar Hammerstein as the Mystery Guest as well. He is consistently referred to as "Hammer_*steen_* " in that episode.

[@WhatsMyLine]

The perennial stein/stien steen/stine debate has especially personal relevance to me, for reasons I shall not disclose on KZbin. :)

[@oswaldomilano3848]

the first to pronounce hammer-steen was ARLENE.

[@randyhutton9371]

@@oswaldomilano3848 you mean Ar-line.

[@michaeldanello3966]

What the hell does Dorothy mean by "are you a LIVING American man?". Did she expect a corpse to be there?

[@nicholasl.521]

Must have been some mid 50's talk or something.

[@grantdavis5945]

I would guess she asked the question to establish gender. The living part I'm sure was just to get a laugh.

[@davidarcudi230]

Is it a woman? Is it a fictional character ?

[@stevehuffman7453]

Maybe she was expecting a specter?

[@jackparr6149]

It was a joke. On the radio panel show "Twenty Questions", the MC would begin a round by telling the panel that the item they had to identify was either animal, vegetable or mineral. If it was animal, the most common first question was "Is it a living American male?".

[@ruthnoelmarie...9061]

Ha! Sound Of Music... 🤣🤣🤣

[@ChrisHansonCanada]

Bennett's face at 18:35 He knew EXACTLY what occurred in steam baths for men.

[@RADIUMGLASS]

Arlene's necklace probably ended up in a pawn shop.

[@fandarzelig]

Radium was probably referring to Alene's necklace being stolen when she was mugged in the 80s.

[@accomplice55]

@@johndonahue3162 It was stolen from her as she stepped out of a cab.

[@19gregske55]

@@accomplice55 : yes, it was ripped right off of her neck.

[@19gregske55]

That necklace was a gift from her husband Mark Gable. It was a heart set with diamonds; later he added a rather large diamond to the centre, which was set on a bale, where the diamond moves when the wearer speaks or moves. Arlene's personal style trickled into the jewellery market for decades. Diamond hearts are still carried as a standard stock item in most jewellery stores, today. Sadly, the necklace was snatched off of her neck while she exited a New York City taxicab.

[@robertjean5782]

​@@fandarzeligIt was during the 50s she was getting out of the taxi, and the driver snatched it 😢

[@rosemma34]

"Do you think that ignorance is happiness in the raw?" Does Fred Allen really say that?

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

Emma Nation It's kinda true imho

[@sansacro007]

He could be genius with an insightful retort; Bennett and John Charles D could also be quite quick, when they weren't being unabashedly and intentionally corny. Corny was kind of a thing in the 50s and it was lovely. Not much verbal dexterity these days, that's for sure. . .

[@robertjean5782]

​@@sansacro007Corny dry wit started in the 1920s😊

[@robbycan]

that $1.25 would now cost $12 in 2020... see what inflation has done to America, John Daly!

[@carlfalt174]

having watched lots of WML what summer panel would fit a remake of the show in 2022?

[@robertjean5782]

It's impractical to duplicate this 70 + old show 😢

[@charlespatrick8650]

wow, General Clark was chairman of a fundraiser for the American Heart Association, and Fred Allen dies from a heart attack almost exactly one month later

[@zapkvr]

You are aware people did of heart attacks every single day. Especially people in their sixties.

[@mrsandmom5947]

And fred died shortly after this episode from heart disease

[@bradfilms8278]

17:02

[@jamesfeldman4234]

So, is it Fraken-stine or Fraken-steen? Only Mel Brooks and Marty Feldman know for sure.

[@accomplice55]

Neither. It's FraNkenstine or FraNkensteen. :)

[@jerrylee8261]

@@accomplice55 I just re-watched that a few days ago on TCM. Great movie. Great cast. That scene with that little girl was horrifying.

[@randyhutton9371]

What hump?

[@robertjean5782]

​@@accomplice55Steine😊

[@shane8037]

lol crickets meant something else back then

[@broughtbackin]

It's hard watching this now, knowing that within a month or so, Fred Allen will die suddenly. (As much as I complain about him lol)

[@piyushmisra1839]

It's ironic general was talking about heart day and Mr Allen died died somedays after from myocardial infarction

[@yawlltube]

What on earth would be non-fiction poetry.

[@accomplice55]

Poetry that tells a true story, like Paul Revere's Ride.

[@josephdonato8154]

I'm getting very suspicious of Bennet Cerf's acumen for guessing the Mystery Guest.

[@susanrutherford866]

He knew before they even walked out !!!

[@robertjean5782]

​@@susanrutherford866The panelist were well paid and had no reason to cheat😊

[@Finians_Mancave]

John DID say "HammerSTINE" when I heard him. I don't know what the others are talking about.

[@Sylvander1911]

The only one that did pronounce HammerSTEEN, was Bennett, twice.

[@robertjean5782]

​@@Sylvander1911It's Hammerstein😊

[@4thDocumentArchive]

What is the name of the governor mentioned in 07:33?

[@robertjean5782]

GOVERNOR Stanton😊

[@chuckschillingvideos]

General Clark is generally regarded by WWII historians as the most incompetent US general of WWII.

[@barbarapalmer8224]

Daly

[@19gregske55]

Mr John Charles DALY looks as though he's injured his right eye, check the lower eyelid.

[@kingalexander2704]

Arlene mispronounced Hammerstein's name: it's pronounced "stein" not "Steen)! I guess to not embarrassment her the others also mispronounced it.

[@philippapay4352]

King Alexander - In New York it has always been common to say 'steen' for "stein." So, when someone like Oscar Hammerstein or Carl Bernstein or Leonard Bernstein does not use the common NY 'steen' pronunciation, it is often mispronounced by longtime, if not native, New Yorkers just out of habit. Most of these folks being show biz or news/journalism folks they would generally be concerned for proper pronunciation, so as not to confuse anyone with someone else. This is not dissimilar from Louis in England and France being pronounced Lou-ee, not Lou-is, thus in New Orleans with its French influences from the French, the Creole and the Cajun, one most often hears the name said as Lou-ee. However, Louis Armstrong always used Lou-is. No one would want to insult him, but perhaps some did not know or they just were too used to saying Lou-ee.

[@19gregske55]

@@philippapay4352 : As a rule, in German words, the second vowel gets the emphasis.

[@philippapay4352]

@@19gregske55 Yes, I know. And the power of NYC as an influence in the United States over culture in general is that so many say "Steen" for "Stein," as is the common NYC pronunciation. Whereas many, including the gentlemen of renown I mentioned in my prior entry, have always used "Stein" with the German pronunciation, along with much of the nation where there are those of German lineage. Sometimes the mispronunciations become the norm. And one always should pronounce someone's name as they do, themselves. I always try to hear what the person calls himself before attempting names, myself, but would use "Stein" as my fallback because it is more common outside of NYC. Arlene had spent a lot of years in NYC by then.

[@bronxbearbud272]

Why do his good friend gentile admirers like Bennett Cerfi and the hostt seem incapable of pronouncing Hammerstein's name correctly, giving it to the Jewish "Steen" pronunciation instead of the correct 'Stein" pronunciation, which at least Siri is getting right all these years later. I similarly cringe when people who should know better refer to another great showman as Flo ZiegFIELD instead of ,ZiegFELD, or am I just going a little stir-crazy after too much to self isolation during quarantine

[@Thebigbluemeany]

Bennett Cerf wasn't a gentile, I don't think: he was Jewish, or at least was born into a Jewish family. Serffe, Serf or Cerf was a common Jewish surname in 18th Century France and sort of middle of the continent in Europe, so at a guess that's where his family came from before emigrating to America.

[@theamishumpire1301]

I have a question, was Arlene Francis ever married, and if so to who and how long,

[@jillgordon1003]

Yes, Arlene Francis was married twice. First to Neil Agnew (1935-1945), which ended in divorce. Then she married Martin Gabel (1946-1986) until he died. In every (or almost every) episode of What's My Line? you'll notice that she is wearing a heart shaped necklace; it was given to her by Martin Gabel. He shows up a number of times on the show too. Sadly, two years after her husband's death, Arlene was mugged and her necklace was stolen.

[@ToddSF]

If you watch enough of these episodes, you'll see Martin Gabel, Arlene's husband, as a guest panelist. In fact, he served as a guest panelist more often than anyone else. They remained married for 40 years, until his death in 1986.

[@Wizardofgosz]

I've been able to find Bennett's house and Dorothy's house mentioned online, and subsequently have seen them on google maps. Any idea where Arlene and Martin lived? I've never been able to find an address.

[@johnniepriest1086]

@@Wizardofgosz Apparently they were close neighbors of Bennett Cerf's.

[@oswaldomilano3848]

YES, WATCH THE NEXT SHOWS.

[@zapkvr]

Senator John Kennedy? How terribly sad.

[@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath]

Cerf’s is always trying to show she’s more intelligent than everybody else with his scolding everyone for mispronouncing Hammerstein. When it comes to guessing occupations, he falls flat on his face, far more often than not with his hunches and that’s an understatement.

[@robertjean5782]

Totally agree 👍 😅

[@domenicozagari2443]

Churchill said that Clark army was a beached whale that could not move.

[@jimclark6256]

Wrong, Churchill said that about Genreral Lucas who was in charge of the landing.

[@domenicozagari2443]

@@jimclark6256 Clark was in charge.

[@kingalexander2704]

Fred looks terrible here. I wonder when he had his last checkup? Someone should've said something.

[@robertjean5782]

He frequently seen his doctor he knew of his condition 😢

[@laurahoward5426]

Fred Allen scares me everytime he opens his mouth....says such cringeworthy things😬

[@peternagy-im4be]

No he doesn't.

[@robertjean5782]

Another newbie that doesn't have a clue😅

[@allanshulstad1783]

General Clark was an inept general.

[@jackseward7779]

Not to speak ill of the dead but...if Mr. Allen had listened more and talked less, he might have guessed more occupations.

[@edwardmusicman896]

Gen. Mark Clark is worst general in the U.S. army. Patton should have commanded the army in Italy. Bad decision by Eisenhower in suspending Patton.

[@robertjean5782]

Patton was suspended to fool the Germans thinking they May have the upper hand 😅

[@laurahoward5426]

25 cents or $1.25, that is cheap, for a steam

[@robertjean5782]

It wasn't cheap 70 years ago😅

[@lilybean835]

Nah, not my cup of gea. Hopefully it picks up more.

[@Fush1234]

Just look at the size of Allen’s ears…. Jamuna elephant .

[@robertjean5782]

Very impolite 😢