What's the best 8 string tuning? | Thick Riff Thursday, Ep 54

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[@isaacfayman]

The answer is to start the song in drop E and pitch down to C# at the end

[@ZL1LoVeR]

This

[@dylanmeldrum6444]

This is exactly what I was thinking

[@DIRDANMUSIC]

Yep! exactly my thoughts hahaha

[@sanskaraunofficial]

Great minds think alike, should switch back and forth throughout

[@reyansh7715]

Hard

[@gabrielpeters929]

This series is why I love Thursdays

[@scottdickson9224]

Thick riff Thursday is my drive home jam.

[@whenitsatravesty]

I didn't realize it was RIFF O'CLOCK 🔥🔥🔥

[@SamBrockmann]

It's always RIFF O'CLOCK somewhere. 🤘🤘

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

It's always riff o clock round here partner 🤠

[@vladimircraftmind5865]

Duble Drop C# - so COOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!

[@ftwinsidia]

this really reminds me of IA's Immolation of Night, especially when you added the chaotic drums at the start

[@sethrich6012]

I thought the same thing, very similar

[@itdwellswithin]

That C#..god…🔥It complements the riff so nicely with that thick texture soundscape 😮‍💨

[@Rain593]

I gotta say... the Drop E version is a little better imo. It's still heavy but a little bit tighter since it isn't as low.

[@dennis4113]

This might be your best riff yet! My prayers have been answered, 8 string TRTs are peak

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Statistically, TRTs are 57% more likely to be 8 string than 6 or 7.

[@prod.SaintBySix]

I don't know if it's the Sleep Token in me but the double drop C# sounds SO FUCKING good. When the riff opens up it just HITS you

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Does Sleep Token play in C#?

[@prod.SaintBySix]

@@nickbroomhallmusic Granite is in Double Drop B, Rain Double Drop A (MADNESS), Take Me Back To Eden is Double Drop C, maybe some others I can't remember right now but close enough! EDIT: The Love That You Want is one in particular that is in C#

[@tusharjamwal]

@@nickbroomhallmusic lots of D#

[@dafi_music]

they work after each other as well🤷‍♀

[@kingsunday1025]

I thought the same thing!

[@figentertainment]

Dont ever stop doing these.

[@storiesofinsight]

C# is sick af dude. That's the winner for me. Love the sound of the drums and just the overall groove too.

[@DivingBetweenSharks]

That‘s definitely the invent animate recipe

[@matt6288joyce]

I hope you do this forever, like as a 60 year old man just throwing out the bangers on a Thursday

[@Bigthoogs]

sweet jesus. i thought the Drop E version was heavy...then ya hit us with the double drop. good lawdy

[@raj4myo]

I think its a matter of structure. The intro and outro chugs sound really nice on drop E due to note clarity and the middle section just blooms with the double drop C#. So maybe if the riffs are arranged differently to accommodate both tunings (sorta like how spiritbox or northlane do) it would sound epic.

[@thesobercoder]

Man Thursdays are the best!!!

[@marduk283]

I love when Nick gets proggy with polymetric stuff. It definitely gave off the Meshuggah vibes he was going for.

[@caseymclane1972]

this is straight up Fellsilent and I ain't mad I'm not saying you should ask Neema Askari to do vocals on this I'm just saying you should ask Neema Askari to do vocals on this

[@christopherknox1124]

What is my russian djent brother doing here

[@caseymclane1972]

@@christopherknox1124 "always has been" hahaha No srsly, I've been hanging out here for like 6 months by now, this is some quality stuff our boy Nicky is doing here

[@christopherknox1124]

@@caseymclane1972 amen!

[@jacobbrandin]

This sounds like it would fit on the "Heavener" album by Invent Animate. Add some spacy ambience and Marcus on a great chorus❤ This riff freaking slaps, my guy🔥

[@tylerkennedy4203]

My band has been playing in double drop c# for a couple years now and I must say it was an acquired taste but I absolutely love it now

[@kinofficial8216]

Invent Animate - Immolation of Night sounds plot like this riff

[@Ryo7_7]

Yes. It's almost exploring deeper parts of the ocean that not many have been able to see. Electrical tape works to mute unwanted strings btw. Love the channel. 🤘

[@burtsgurt]

The green Vader sounds so damn good!

[@jobfickett5051]

Double C# has much more bite and texture to my ear. Both are great.

[@Rachel8260]

I think both work really well! in a perfect world i would use both in the same song, and drop pitching to C# during the chromatic version of the riff

[@kingsunday1025]

+1

[@AaronCanDraw]

Giving me that old Cloudkicker song. Them chaotic drumss

[@tangentdark]

This series always inspires me to get off my ass and start a new project. Thanks Nick! Tones and playing are always spectacular.

[@franciscogaxiola8260]

Nick is a production mad man, look up to his skills and methods

[@JimmyDSausDE]

Both are so cool that I kinda just wish we had a good ol' KEY CHANGE!

[@DanielBobke]

I look forward to Thursdays for two reasons...it is almost Friday and THICK RIFFS! 🤘

[@liogat]

Drop E definitely has the clarity and bite to it in the tighter sections. HOWEVER, the tone in the section right after the lo-fi part in double drop C# where it opens up just has a pair of fucking nuts on it.

[@LimitlessPotential12]

Drop E was it for me. The mix felt more cohesive because on Double Drop C# the drums were a bit more disconnected from the guitars because of the very low tuning and they poked through a bit more. Though both are awesome. Great job Nick!

[@lexcallahan3055]

Bro this is the BEST thick riff Thursday so far!

[@MartinNephilim]

The chugs are more sinister in E, the dj0nt more expressed, but the song feels better in C#. Also you can combine those last parts as a key change in the song one after the other, that may go along nicely.

[@MartinNephilim]

E than C#

[@saturnnnfps]

nick is my replacement for scheduled tv

[@MATRODITH]

The whole cotton ball and muted strings reminds me of the Shuriken guitar with the Line 6 Helix where you can mute individual strings.

[@jaydenrobertson-zr9fu]

bro honestly I'm with you they both go so hard that I can't decide which one I prefer

[@TooSlamToGiveADamn]

Those pick scrapes are niiiice 🤘

[@martinius4041]

The Drop C # was so much powerfull and agressive ! 😎

[@bigboibb23]

the E beginning part is tight but the C# middle part hits so hard, the both have it in the end

[@jussi-pekkalaakko8768]

Thanks bro. Im learning alot from the series and yea, both tunings are cool, the lower one has that shugah wibe but the palm muted chugs sounds better on drop e.

[@kylerflowers7652]

The best series

[@a.k2156]

Chuggs sound meatier in C# and otherwise E sounds bitier and cleaner. Maybe them bois from Vildhjarta are on to something with the whole Whammy shananigans

[@ItsNotSafe2Swim]

Drop E sounds better with the quick tempo, but you can inexplicably slow it down & drop it to Double C# for the neanderthalls + djentlemen. That’d be cool. Great riff btw!

[@bwherry]

Try using masking tape (or painter's tape) for muting single strings (inside strings you _don't_ want muted). Little wrap-around on string(s) to be muted, with tail of tape going up & over and stuck on to something else (like an also-muted string) to anchor it. Works a treat.

[@DaveWebbMusic]

Dude, like the little taco girl says, “why not both…” drop E into the C# 🤌🏻 instant verse and happy fun times. 🤘🏼

[@Sam_336]

Liquid death is the source of all good riffs i swear

[@SpennyClem]

This reminds me of mortal reminder lmao such a dope demo

[@braydengrieve3383]

Checking back in with the "These would modulte nicely into eachother"

[@TheRickyThomas]

them drums though. sheeeeesh

[@shaingustin3032]

my observation. Drop E sounded like Animals As Leaders, double drop C# sounded like Mick Gordon

[@MichaelKhaimraj]

Drop E sounds heavier to me, but I think it’s because of the string tension. Things sound much tighter and percussive. BUT, C# sounds so DOOM-esque that pitch shifting down to that might be the move. I guess it depends on what you define “heavy” as. It’s subjective, but for me heaviness with Prog comes from note definition and tight playing more so than a lower tuning. But, still an absolute banger as always. Feels like a Meshuggah/Periphery collab!

[@stateofclarity-official9311]

Never thought I'd hear myself say this, but drop E is better. The note definition in the middle section is so much better where you can hear that waterfall of notes (can't help but stankface when I hear that) whereas the drop C# middle section you really only hear two notes - the lower and higher notes jumping between octaves.

[@dbwastooshort]

in E the first riff sounds so much tighter and nasty, and the quad track riff sounds tighter too, has that spiky high pitched palm mute noise, its so brutal in C however, the second variant of the riff hits like a fucking BRIIIIIIIIIICK, it is so brutal maybe the secret answer is double drop D or D#, the middle ground between the two ! see if the brutality of the second riff in C carries over

[@fredericgarceau1908]

Every thursday, i headbang for 20 minutes

[@frankvalenciamusic]

That C# Is Massive OMG ... Drop E Sounds "Progressive" but C# Is definetly A Monster

[@benstanfill363]

Opening up that riff was insane.

[@thedutchdjentleman]

The intro riff in drop E is very Silent Planet and I love it

[@vladimirackermann6182]

Awesome content! Keep it up.

[@Brattynn]

I was waiting for the power move of “ Eh, we’ll just cut the string off.” Still a killer video though. Love catching up on TRT.

[@teamskdm1]

f standard is definitely best 8 string tuning . fun fact the note F is the easiest note for speakers to reproduce and the clearest note you can tune down to. most bass in pop songs is done in the key of F for this reason

[@dylan5642]

So sick!

[@SIGMA-PHONIC]

Reminds me of some john Browne style riffs. Very nice 👌

[@richnfg_7882]

Drop C# is harder to contain from a mix standpoint, it's definitely a little muddier/missing some definition, but it just hits the spot

[@not_porter]

8 string is life

[@theemblemfaction3699]

Your tone is solid af - reminds me of By The Thousands

[@rylyn_burne]

I gotta go with Drop E. It just sounds crisper and more in your face to me.

[@americanaccents]

double drop C all day, that shit is sounding absolutely VILE.

[@jimberjamber8540]

Honestly I prefer tuning higher as of recent. Trying to get those super low notes to have clarity is just such a pain that I just pitch shift if I want to go there. I mainly keep my 8 string in drop F and my 7 string in drop A#. Having thinner strings with high tension also helps when I do want to pitch down.

[@alexdegiovanni1598]

I use folded printer paper to mute strings I don't want to ring out when recording. You can move it around and you don't get fibers everywhere. I just slide it under the strings I want to be quiet.

[@larrymarcusmusic]

E has more attack during that last section for sure - Double C# is “nastier” on that opening section cause of how low it is, but overall E just sits better IMO

[@mitchellburns2999]

Cool riffage - reminds me of Invent animate - Immolation of Night

[@bradleyschatz1714]

This has to be nick’s heaviest riff he’s ever written

[@flufficornss]

for your guitars sounding different the pickups are probably wound ever so slightly differently if they were hand wound which i'd expect them to be since keisel is more boutique

[@richnfg_7882]

Give this man some beverage endorsements

[@boofoealmighty5211]

For the riff at the end i would personally have them switch off and have both tunings do both parts

[@yourmother7504]

Nick broomthall back at it again with the stupidly low tunings 💪💪💪💪

[@papichurro2115]

That c# all the way. The percussive nature and also lower being heavier just as a fact of life

[@FrontRowVideos108]

It is like Invent Animate - Immolation Of Night

[@brandoncondatore1051]

I feel like it sits really well with the double drop C#. It just hits you upside the head hard as shit😅

[@willruddermusic2646]

The drop E feels very Mick Gordon and I'm absolutely here for it. Feels more aggressive.

[@docrockland9464]

Double Drop D = DDD = Triple D = Flavortown

[@TorqueBow]

That Drop C#1 version of the riff is fucking nuts

[@MetalheadOv666]

You should have wayyyyyy more subscribers than u do! Definitely in the top 3 of best KZbin metal guitarists!

[@andrewdaileychufable]

Sounds sick 🤘 do you ever pitch shift when you track or always switch guitars? Btw the drop E version sounds way more aggressive

[@jmaaybraak]

I was expecting to favor the double drop C, but oh no son...that drop E done did some ass whoopin'! 😂

[@TheYoungRezy]

If the track was straight instrumental Drop E, but if I were to add vocals drop C#. However Drop E is the favorite over here.

[@markussteinbaugh]

Love the videos. Would be cool if you made a video about your background and what happened with Chronologist

[@stijndesaedeleer8395]

Great riff and I prefer the E tuning! Also silly question probably but the bass drops and swell and impact samples are these bought ones or are they readily available somewhere?

[@jethinha3994]

drop e sounds insane, really cool. but if that riff was in normal drop c#, that would be even better.

[@Ghostbearstudios]

And here we go boys!

[@ConvergenceBand]

drop C# gives some serious Vitalism vibes

[@infelicitas]

Drop E sounds sick af imo

[@thatlonzoguy]

double drop c# on the palm muted section is way heavier, but the rest of it sounds better in E.. mix them together.

[@FyreGod]

Gold per usual 🎉 Double C# for me brotha

[@bleedingrevenge12]

That just sounds like Pravus with extra steps

[@aaronlawson203]

omg i just got the craziest idea. go double drop c# then for the chuggy part at the end start in ddc# then switch to drop e then back to ddec# ....... would be nasty

[@flufficornss]

you should try messing around with drop E with the low b dropped to an A its not a crazy tuning but it does open up some unique riffage at least for me

[@SarahCharles92]

Nick: No one has the balls to play the same thing for a minute and a half and think "you guys are gonna listen to this". Generation by Liturgy: Am I a joke to you?