What's the best 8 string tuning? | Thick Riff Thursday, Ep 54

[@isaacfayman]

The answer is to start the song in drop E and pitch down to C# at the end

[@ZL1LoVeR]

This

[@dylanmeldrum6444]

This is exactly what I was thinking

[@DIRDANMUSIC]

Yep! exactly my thoughts hahaha

[@sanskaraunofficial]

Great minds think alike, should switch back and forth throughout

[@reyansh7715]

Hard

[@gabrielpeters929]

This series is why I love Thursdays

[@scottdickson9224]

Thick riff Thursday is my drive home jam.

[@whenitsatravesty]

I didn't realize it was RIFF O'CLOCK 🔥🔥🔥

[@SamBrockmann]

It's always RIFF O'CLOCK somewhere. 🤘🤘

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

It's always riff o clock round here partner 🤠

[@vladimircraftmind5865]

Duble Drop C# - so COOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!

[@itdwellswithin]

That C#..god…🔥It complements the riff so nicely with that thick texture soundscape 😮‍💨

[@coltonfears1604]

I remember years ago when we used to joke about drop tuning. "what are you going to do, go all the way back to E?" And now we're grooving in CC#. Crazy.

[@dennis4113]

This might be your best riff yet! My prayers have been answered, 8 string TRTs are peak

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Statistically, TRTs are 57% more likely to be 8 string than 6 or 7.

[@dafi_music]

they work after each other as well🤷‍♀

[@kingsunday1025]

I thought the same thing!

[@DivingBetweenSharks]

That‘s definitely the invent animate recipe

[@Rain593]

I gotta say... the Drop E version is a little better imo. It's still heavy but a little bit tighter since it isn't as low.

[@soloking2141]

That part at 13:00 where he listens to the end parts to see what he likes better, you could have combined them back to back transitioning between the two it would sound so sick. Trivium does something similar to the end of The Crusade. So sick man.

[@marduk283]

I love when Nick gets proggy with polymetric stuff. It definitely gave off the Meshuggah vibes he was going for.

[@figentertainment]

Dont ever stop doing these.

[@storiesofinsight]

C# is sick af dude. That's the winner for me. Love the sound of the drums and just the overall groove too.

[@matt6288joyce]

I hope you do this forever, like as a 60 year old man just throwing out the bangers on a Thursday

[@jaydenrobertson-zr9fu]

bro honestly I'm with you they both go so hard that I can't decide which one I prefer

[@lexcallahan3055]

Bro this is the BEST thick riff Thursday so far!

[@braydengrieve3383]

Checking back in with the "These would modulte nicely into eachother"

[@teamskdm1]

f standard is definitely best 8 string tuning . fun fact the note F is the easiest note for speakers to reproduce and the clearest note you can tune down to. most bass in pop songs is done in the key of F for this reason

[@theemblemfaction3699]

Your tone is solid af - reminds me of By The Thousands

[@tangentdark]

This series always inspires me to get off my ass and start a new project. Thanks Nick! Tones and playing are always spectacular.

[@AaronCanDraw]

Giving me that old Cloudkicker song. Them chaotic drumss

[@prod.SaintBySix]

I don't know if it's the Sleep Token in me but the double drop C# sounds SO FUCKING good. When the riff opens up it just HITS you

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Does Sleep Token play in C#?

[@prod.SaintBySix]

@@nickbroomhallmusic Granite is in Double Drop B, Rain Double Drop A (MADNESS), Take Me Back To Eden is Double Drop C, maybe some others I can't remember right now but close enough! EDIT: The Love That You Want is one in particular that is in C#

[@tusharjamwal]

@@nickbroomhallmusic lots of D#

[@DanielBobke]

I look forward to Thursdays for two reasons...it is almost Friday and THICK RIFFS! 🤘

[@ItsNotSafe2Swim]

Drop E sounds better with the quick tempo, but you can inexplicably slow it down & drop it to Double C# for the neanderthalls + djentlemen. That’d be cool. Great riff btw!

[@fredericgarceau1908]

Every thursday, i headbang for 20 minutes

[@lukedavies900]

Damn I can't tell if this guitar or your pink one is my favourite looks wise. That finish is so nice.

[@thedutchdjentleman]

The intro riff in drop E is very Silent Planet and I love it

[@kinofficial8216]

Invent Animate - Immolation of Night sounds plot like this riff

[@benstanfill363]

Opening up that riff was insane.

[@willruddermusic2646]

The drop E feels very Mick Gordon and I'm absolutely here for it. Feels more aggressive.

[@Ryo7_7]

Yes. It's almost exploring deeper parts of the ocean that not many have been able to see. Electrical tape works to mute unwanted strings btw. Love the channel. 🤘

[@Bigthoogs]

sweet jesus. i thought the Drop E version was heavy...then ya hit us with the double drop. good lawdy

[@thesobercoder]

Man Thursdays are the best!!!

[@Franciscofk7]

Nick is a production mad man, look up to his skills and methods

[@JimmyDSausDE]

Both are so cool that I kinda just wish we had a good ol' KEY CHANGE!

[@tsibren]

Whatever inspires you to write your best work.

[@kylerflowers7652]

The best series

[@tylerkennedy4203]

My band has been playing in double drop c# for a couple years now and I must say it was an acquired taste but I absolutely love it now

[@jobfickett5051]

Double C# has much more bite and texture to my ear. Both are great.

[@caseymclane1972]

this is straight up Fellsilent and I ain't mad I'm not saying you should ask Neema Askari to do vocals on this I'm just saying you should ask Neema Askari to do vocals on this

[@christopherknox1124]

What is my russian djent brother doing here

[@caseymclane1972]

@@christopherknox1124 "always has been" hahaha No srsly, I've been hanging out here for like 6 months by now, this is some quality stuff our boy Nicky is doing here

[@christopherknox1124]

@@caseymclane1972 amen!

[@jussi-pekkalaakko8768]

Thanks bro. Im learning alot from the series and yea, both tunings are cool, the lower one has that shugah wibe but the palm muted chugs sounds better on drop e.

[@martinius4041]

The Drop C # was so much powerfull and agressive ! 😎

[@DaveWebbMusic]

Dude, like the little taco girl says, “why not both…” drop E into the C# 🤌🏻 instant verse and happy fun times. 🤘🏼

[@Sam_336]

Liquid death is the source of all good riffs i swear

[@bradleyschatz1714]

This has to be nick’s heaviest riff he’s ever written

[@NeedsMorePinchHarmonics]

Nick broomthall back at it again with the stupidly low tunings 💪💪💪💪

[@MartinNephilim]

The chugs are more sinister in E, the dj0nt more expressed, but the song feels better in C#. Also you can combine those last parts as a key change in the song one after the other, that may go along nicely.

[@MartinNephilim]

E than C#

[@raj4myo]

I think its a matter of structure. The intro and outro chugs sound really nice on drop E due to note clarity and the middle section just blooms with the double drop C#. So maybe if the riffs are arranged differently to accommodate both tunings (sorta like how spiritbox or northlane do) it would sound epic.

[@jmaaybraak]

I was expecting to favor the double drop C, but oh no son...that drop E done did some ass whoopin'! 😂

[@Ghostbearstudios]

And here we go boys!

[@jacobbrandin]

This sounds like it would fit on the "Heavener" album by Invent Animate. Add some spacy ambience and Marcus on a great chorus❤ This riff freaking slaps, my guy🔥

[@MATRODITH]

The whole cotton ball and muted strings reminds me of the Shuriken guitar with the Line 6 Helix where you can mute individual strings.

[@abfhngw]

That C# goes so dam hard 🔥🔥 What pickups do you have in those Vaders? They sound so good at both those tunings 😮

[@TheRickyThomas]

them drums though. sheeeeesh

[@TooSlamToGiveADamn]

Those pick scrapes are niiiice 🤘

[@SpennyClem]

This reminds me of mortal reminder lmao such a dope demo

[@burtsgurt]

The green Vader sounds so damn good!

[@TorqueBow]

That Drop C#1 version of the riff is fucking nuts

[@bwherry]

Try using masking tape (or painter's tape) for muting single strings (inside strings you _don't_ want muted). Little wrap-around on string(s) to be muted, with tail of tape going up & over and stuck on to something else (like an also-muted string) to anchor it. Works a treat.

[@The_Tsav]

I didn't realise the double drop C# is what is missing in my life 🔥🧨

[@shaingustin3032]

my observation. Drop E sounded like Animals As Leaders, double drop C# sounded like Mick Gordon

[@liogat]

Drop E definitely has the clarity and bite to it in the tighter sections. HOWEVER, the tone in the section right after the lo-fi part in double drop C# where it opens up just has a pair of fucking nuts on it.

[@thsmtondvd]

the E beginning part is tight but the C# middle part hits so hard, the both have it in the end

[@LimitlessPotential12]

Drop E was it for me. The mix felt more cohesive because on Double Drop C# the drums were a bit more disconnected from the guitars because of the very low tuning and they poked through a bit more. Though both are awesome. Great job Nick!

[@a.k2156]

Chuggs sound meatier in C# and otherwise E sounds bitier and cleaner. Maybe them bois from Vildhjarta are on to something with the whole Whammy shananigans

[@saturnnnfps]

nick is my replacement for scheduled tv

[@MichaelKhaimraj]

Drop E sounds heavier to me, but I think it’s because of the string tension. Things sound much tighter and percussive. BUT, C# sounds so DOOM-esque that pitch shifting down to that might be the move. I guess it depends on what you define “heavy” as. It’s subjective, but for me heaviness with Prog comes from note definition and tight playing more so than a lower tuning. But, still an absolute banger as always. Feels like a Meshuggah/Periphery collab!

[@dylan5642]

So sick!

[@vladimirackermann6182]

Awesome content! Keep it up.

[@AygisMusic]

Coolest thing you’ve made. C# all the way

[@americanaccents]

double drop C all day, that shit is sounding absolutely VILE.

[@frankvalenciamusic]

That C# Is Massive OMG ... Drop E Sounds "Progressive" but C# Is definetly A Monster

[@dbwastooshort]

in E the first riff sounds so much tighter and nasty, and the quad track riff sounds tighter too, has that spiky high pitched palm mute noise, its so brutal in C however, the second variant of the riff hits like a fucking BRIIIIIIIIIICK, it is so brutal maybe the secret answer is double drop D or D#, the middle ground between the two ! see if the brutality of the second riff in C carries over

[@stateofclarity-official9311]

Never thought I'd hear myself say this, but drop E is better. The note definition in the middle section is so much better where you can hear that waterfall of notes (can't help but stankface when I hear that) whereas the drop C# middle section you really only hear two notes - the lower and higher notes jumping between octaves.

[@not_porter]

8 string is life

[@StringCypher]

I was waiting for the power move of “ Eh, we’ll just cut the string off.” Still a killer video though. Love catching up on TRT.

[@SIGMA-PHONIC]

Reminds me of some john Browne style riffs. Very nice 👌

[@mitchellburns2999]

Cool riffage - reminds me of Invent animate - Immolation of Night

[@rybo0072]

The riff sounds better in E and the chuggs sound better in C# so thall it and have both 😁

[@parthajyotimudoi1910]

thick rifff

[@alexdegiovanni1598]

I use folded printer paper to mute strings I don't want to ring out when recording. You can move it around and you don't get fibers everywhere. I just slide it under the strings I want to be quiet.

[@flufficornss]

for your guitars sounding different the pickups are probably wound ever so slightly differently if they were hand wound which i'd expect them to be since keisel is more boutique

[@adiarn]

Drop E gives a Make Them Suffer vibe and C# is more After The Burial

[@rylyn_burne]

I gotta go with Drop E. It just sounds crisper and more in your face to me.

[@richnfg_7882]

Drop C# is harder to contain from a mix standpoint, it's definitely a little muddier/missing some definition, but it just hits the spot

[@papichurro2115]

That c# all the way. The percussive nature and also lower being heavier just as a fact of life

[@jimberjamber8540]

Honestly I prefer tuning higher as of recent. Trying to get those super low notes to have clarity is just such a pain that I just pitch shift if I want to go there. I mainly keep my 8 string in drop F and my 7 string in drop A#. Having thinner strings with high tension also helps when I do want to pitch down.

[@larrymarcusmusic]

E has more attack during that last section for sure - Double C# is “nastier” on that opening section cause of how low it is, but overall E just sits better IMO

[@jethinha3994]

drop e sounds insane, really cool. but if that riff was in normal drop c#, that would be even better.

[@SarahCharles92]

Nick: No one has the balls to play the same thing for a minute and a half and think "you guys are gonna listen to this". Generation by Liturgy: Am I a joke to you?

[@markussteinbaugh]

Love the videos. Would be cool if you made a video about your background and what happened with Chronologist

[@richnfg_7882]

Give this man some beverage endorsements

[@FrontRowVideos108]

It is like Invent Animate - Immolation Of Night

[@pakornkhamp1936]

look like dropE and double dropC# can go together. I think direct key change or use transition also good.

[@boofoealmighty5211]

For the riff at the end i would personally have them switch off and have both tunings do both parts

[@brandoncondatore1051]

I feel like it sits really well with the double drop C#. It just hits you upside the head hard as shit😅

[@aaronlawson203]

omg i just got the craziest idea. go double drop c# then for the chuggy part at the end start in ddc# then switch to drop e then back to ddec# ....... would be nasty

[@thatlonzoguy]

double drop c# on the palm muted section is way heavier, but the rest of it sounds better in E.. mix them together.

[@Rowanexen]

I'm usually not too much of a super-low tuning gal but that Drop C# one sounded SOOOOO good and Idk why I prefer it this time 😭