What’s The Best Caliber to Carry? (ASP BITS) | Active Self Protection Extra

[@ladamyre1]

My favorite "caliber war" statement comes from Col Jeff Cooper: "Carry a .25 if it makes you feel good but don't ever load it. If you load it, you might shoot it. If you shoot it, you might hit somebody. If you hit somebody, *and he finds out about it,* he might be very angry with you." lol

[@ASPextra]

Haha!

[@timhallas4275]

ladamyre: That was probably the funniest stupid statement I've heard about guns. I bought a $50 (new) Raven .25 auto about 25 years ago just for a nightstand gun for my wife. I tested it out by shooting at a pile of wood in my yard. To my surprise, these bullets went through a 2x4 and still had enough left to embed 1/2 inch into the next one. I later found out that at least 90 people in the U.S. alone, died in the scene after being shot in the chest with a .25. I agree that a .45 acp will do more damage, but is that necessary when a .25acp has two 6 round mags? I would love to have met Col Jeff Cooper, just so I could point my Raven at him and see if he laughs or gets scared.

[@josephpacchetti5997]

Also one of my Favorite! 🤣🇺🇸

[@strider8933]

@@timhallas4275 I don't mean to be an ass but, I knew, trained, and served with the Col. He NEVER disputed that "minor calibers" were not deadly. HE carried a .25 ACP at times. As a last ditch gun obviously. Just know this, He would not be scared. He would just smoothly and SHOCKINGLY quickly put 2 in your chest. Even shortly before his passing, his draw from concealment to first shot was still less than 1.5 seconds at 10 yards.

[@GUNNER67akaKelt]

@@timhallas4275 Yeah, I would REALLY not advise that.

[@joshh6104]

"We don't wanna shoot a .50 BMG at somebody at 10 yards" Well thanks John, you crushed my ccw plans!

[@glaxowelcome1907]

@12 Gage .50 cal in the 14th and 15th centuries are NOTHING like a .50 cal BMG round. SMH

[@alexblackburn627]

hans binder some people just can’t even research, I got your joke. And I found it funny cause your right back then guns came in all sizes and it was normal to see a muzzle loader pistol (probably packed with rocks) in .87 caliber. I want to see the ballistics on those puppys

[@AlmorBellum]

lmaooooo

[@ALLaboutGAMINGxCHAOSxHOLLOWx]

HAHA i love it

[@jasonberry3676]

@@glaxowelcome1907 more like a .50AE. Still not that fair of a comparison.

[@SpaceMissile]

"This discussion typically generates a lot of heat but not a lot of light." That is so poetic.

[@JohnLloydScharf]

It should be. It has been a phrase with its roots in Shakespeare's HAMLET when Ophelia's father downplays what Hamlet says to Ophelia:When the blood burns, how prodigal the soul Lends the tongue vows. These blazes, daughter, Giving more light than heat, extinct in both Even in their promise as it is a-making,..." Polonius doesn't beat around the bush. He tells his daughter that Hamlet only wants to sleep with her. He also says she's an idiot if she actually believes any of Hamlet's lines. Polonius orders his daughter to stop seeing Hamlet, and Ophelia agrees to obey her father's wishes. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/more%20heat%20than%20light

[@scmh1288]

@@JohnLloydScharf I clicked for the video, but came for the literary reference. 💚

[@JohnLloydScharf]

@@scmh1288 It is a common statement with, perhaps, a 16th Century origin in a wordy play by the king of plagiary. Shakespeare. www.brainpickings.org/2012/05/10/mark-twain-helen-keller-plagiarism-originality/ www.twainquotes.com/Plagiarism.html [Freedom and birthplace.] "Libertas et natale solum. Fine words! I wonder where you stole 'em. " Jonathan Swift, upon Chief Justice Whitshed's Motto for his coach (1724).

[@JohnLloydScharf]

@@scmh1288 The seed ye sow, another reaps; The wealth ye find, another keeps: The robes ye weave, another wears: The arms ye forge another bears. Percy Bysshe Shelley, To the Men of England.

[@jackofalltradesprepping9611]

Yep, I carry a 19x gen 5 but I'd rock my dad's glock 42 in 380 any day(I can hit first shot at a hundred yards each time we go to the range) (I dry fire practice all day so I'm definitely not normal)

[@garywoodlief1976]

A 380 in your pocket is better than a 45 at home

[@johnharris8191]

A 45 is better at both places.

[@Arouth249]

Heard that

[@phillhuddleston9445]

Why would you leave your .45 at home, she might miss you.

[@turdfurg47]

Why'd you leave your 45 at home?

[@texasghost6725]

22lr in your hand is better than a 380 in your pocket

[@oghueq]

9mm for the hood and 10 for the woods.

[@ASPextra]

haha I had never heard that before. I like it!

[@oghueq]

Active Self Protection Extra I also have the VP9 for the daily carry but when I am hiking the beautiful NW mountains I strap my Glock 40 on my chest.

[@HKM-28]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

[@joes.7536]

Agree on woods, but I bet on 40 for the hood.

[@lovescamaros1]

s&w 500 stubby...just the sight of that big boy scares people away. I prefer my emp in 40 cal for edc.

[@ModernDecay70]

I was a big .45 acp guy for a really long time for the same reason most people are, stopping power. But after watching 100's if not 1000's of police and robbery shootings it is pretty evident that shot placement and round capacity is far more important than caliber.

[@ASPextra]

That was kind of my path, too.

[@mrmartin7131]

That’s the key word(s) shot placement 👍🏾👍🏾

[@dt3852]

California laws limited 10 rounds magazine 😢

[@GoFindAsafeSpace]

​@DAVE Cali is a peice of shit socialist hellscape. Come join us over here in Arizona, brother 👊 ps, I know exactly how you feel. I lived in newyork for many many years.

[@George-vf7ss]

Bingo, pay the man.

[@goodfoot7926]

The best caliber to carry is not the issue. it’s what gun are you most comfortable with and can consistently hit with.

[@johnthomas8150]

Amen

[@gabbyhayes1568]

Bingo!!!

[@michaelwhitley9064]

@@gabbyhayes1568 YES

[@BadDriversOfAugustaGeorgia]

@Old Iron I know a woman who killed her attempted rapist with a .22, so G Man is correct.

[@ericdrisgula3879]

@@BadDriversOfAugustaGeorgia you can kill alot of things with a .22LR, most important thing is landing the most rounds possible consistantly into vital target areas. A guy who is a dead nuts shot with lethal shot accuracy could easily kill 15 men charging him with 1 full 15rd magazine stuffed Into just a .22LR semiauto pistol. A person with horrible aim might kill none of the 15 charging men even with a 75rd drum in a high end AR15 5.56, give the horrible shooter one chambered in .308 and he'll be Even further off from each target if he can't handle the recoil of the much stronger round.

[@lonewanderer3603]

The gun you have on you when the SHTF is the greatest gun you've ever owned in your life.

[@Leonardokite]

Yupp!

[@logicsoundinc]

Use your pistol to get to your rifle.

[@4382520479025261]

Right I always tell people man... A bullet is a bullet, don't matter if its a .22 or a .50 caliber. Its meant to do damage and it can and will kill you. Even something as small as a .22 can be a man stopper. You put enough rounds in them, pack your bags gentlemen wars over.

[@timusery]

My brother, NSWO, BUDS & EOD... has many weapons to choose from, to carry, he carries a .22. He said, "It doesnt matter what i shoot you with, If I shoot you in the eye!" LOL So, Im thinking shot placement is paramount in a self defense scenario!

[@vangchip]

November Thirty .22 is very dangerous, it tends to bounce inside the body and cause massive damage. I'm pretty sure it's one of the more lethal rounds.

[@richardefriend]

For .380 ACP users, the Underwood 90 gr. Xtreme Penetrator has been found by MAC (Military Arms Channel), Paul Harrel and others to be the preeminent EDC round out of short barrels--and with 1,100 FPS and 242 FPE, this barrier blind bullet competes nicely with many 115 gr. 9mm rounds.

[@randykeech1618]

i have a ruger LCP2 whats your opinion on that gun? it only came with a 6 round magazine

[@bmx7596]

@@randykeech1618 If you're going with a 6 round mag, look at the LCR 327. 440lbs of force and controllable. That's more power than more 5 inch barrel +P+ 9mm out of a 1.9 inch barrel lol

[@chapllc722]

​​​​@@bmx7596 +p+ 9mm is approaching 550 ft-lbs out of a 5 inch barrel. At least for the underwood loads

[@marissafarr1346]

​@@coachonpointI have a max and LOVE IT

[@C8sorbs]

Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range for me

[@Texan1981]

I see he hasn't answered you yet. Don't worry... he'll be back.

[@C8sorbs]

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[@marksweetser6312]

Uzi nine millameetta

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Only what you see pal.

[@176bammm]

Star Trek Type 2-A Pulse Phaser set to Disintegrate!...Oops..I mean stun....

[@skipboyer1889]

“Shot placement is King, adequate penetration is Queen and everything else is angels dancing on the heads of pins!” End of story.

[@johnharris8191]

Minus shot placement I will take the .45.

[@skipboyer1889]

john harris I’ll take a 22 in the eye over a 45 in the little toe. Shot placement is king......😉

[@johnharris8191]

@@skipboyer1889 I will too, hard to place shots in moving targets.

[@boxelder9167]

I found out that if I am shooting a man in the chest he has trouble shooting at my head. The good solid hits with my .380 were better than all of his misses with the penetration of his .40 caliber not working to his advantage on a miss.

[@monster2slayer]

Although i like the sentiment, isnt the force imparted on the target also an important factor? A hollow point with great momentum is deadlier than more penetration with an fmj, right?

[@abcdefghi2175]

i carry my wife with me every where i go her looks could kill period...............

[@josemarrero7582]

Ja! That’s a good one, mine to, and I have permit for open carry her

[@errolm8313]

This should get more likes! Was funny as hell!

[@svenfigueroa312]

Mine is +p+

[@svenfigueroa312]

I’m 5’5”. She is 5’7”. And 36dd.

[@tedharvick9010]

Let me guess, Roy. She sees your comments, and you need to score some "brownie points" real quick? Hahaha j/k Great comment, Sir

[@hbne1]

“NO FAT JOKES PLEASE, TOO EASY” LOL🤣

[@crazyirishmedic9535]

I carry a 40 because even during an ammo rush I can still find ammo.

[@ASPextra]

That's an advantage to .40 for sure.

[@TheBakerCompany86]

Agreed! During this pandemic, I didn't have much trouble finding .40. Now if it were only as cheap as 9mm...

[@trav-c137]

@sniperhat1 what kind of kahr do you have?

[@trav-c137]

@sniperhat1 nice. I have a p380 as my backup and I love it. high quality feel, no rattle. accurate as hell. super concealable. kahrs are underrated I feel

[@evanwynnnn]

I’ve found that to be true too. Recently everyone’s bought up 9mm, so I chose a .40. Love my Glock 35.

[@Monkykungphu]

I love your videos!!! As a newbie in the gun world, I've been watching hours and hours of KZbin vids on firearms and I'm finding yours to be some of the most informative, entertaining and and your do so in a modest and easy to understand way. Thanks for doing what you do and please keep it up!!!

[@ASPextra]

Thanks Ben! Welcome, and if I can help in any way I am happy to.

[@crackerjack6454]

same here! I got into Polymer 80s, and found Marine Gun Builder's channel!! If you're interested in building, Check him out!

[@KPHVAC]

Check out Honest Outlaw for weapon reviews. His reviews are by far my favorite on KZbin!! He actually does 1,000 round reviews on lots of weapons and isn't scared to piss off a manufacturer.

[@SamFreedom]

"a 22? that's just gonna piss me off!" "yeah? well its gonna piss you off SEVEN times!"

[@KeepTheGates]

Don't carry a 22

[@weekendjail1417]

@@KeepTheGates What about a .22 LR SMG with a 250 round drum magazine?

[@timothesquious5478]

I carry a PMR 30. 30 rounds of 22 mag. Idgaf what anybody says. Its light and with 30 shots and the fireballs it shoots out i feel safe. I’ll piss you off 30 times.

[@SamFreedom]

@@timothesquious5478 only 6+1 rounds in some states.

[@tommys2979]

Im sure if someone took a few .22 rounds they wouldnt be just charging forward. Ive seen what .22 will do to a squirrel...theyre small but they definitely are effective for their size

[@smck8623]

Caliber wars are fun...but you’re right, we’re all on the same team gentlemen

[@thehamburglar9mm]

Then why do we need guns, hippie?

[@themerovingian4252]

Not necessarily

[@carlahlers9454]

My personal choice, by far, is a 9 mm also. But I always remember my trainer’s advice: the best ammo is the one you can hit your target with. You’re better off with a 22 if you are able to train with it frequently and become extremely accurate with it. There’s no sense in having a 45 or a 357 if you can’t hit the broadside of a barn with it. His point was, choose the caliber you can afford to buy in large quantities, train with it often, and become proficient with it... no sense in buying a tremendous stopping power caliber in name only, never training with it, and then be unable to use it properly in self defense the day you need it.

[@Acidburn3141]

LOL guys you are better off with 45!!!!! If you have the training necessary to handle recoil!!!

[@Skank_and_Gutterboy]

@@Acidburn3141 I would've agreed 25 years ago. Now, not so much.

[@ardzye5374]

@@Acidburn3141 not in compact designed carry pistols. 9 or 40 take the cake.

[@guarddog318]

@@Acidburn3141 - I like a .45, but it won't fit in the same pocket my .32 does. And since my daily carry is a "just in case" gun, and not a "I'm going to war" gun, I prefer one I can always have with me without much aggravation. After all, it's not there to show off, brag about, or make people think I'm some sort of badass. It's just there to interrupt someone's plans to cause me grief, should that happen.

[@ShastaBean]

@@Acidburn3141 Why would you choose a .45 when 10mm exists?

I'm a farmer on an EXTREME budget, so carry a Phoenix Arms HP22a. I'm able to carry it all the time, and shoot it almost every evening at dusk, just "unloading" the magazine to check for malfunctions. After watching your videos, I want to carry a larger caliber, but in reality I probably won't. Wish me luck if I ever have to use it in self-defense!

[@nerdyolddude4924]

Should work...because you know it through and through. 👍

[@tmorg1029]

The 45 ACP (1911A1) saved my life when I was in the Service. My first CCW was a EAA Witness 45 ACP. which is a modified dbl stack (10 + !). I recently got a Canik TP9 SFX and after practicing for a month to feel comfortable with it. I carry the TP9 now or my Springfield XDS 45 ACP depending on where I am going. To me I love the 45 ACP round, but with the reduction of FPS in commercial rounds is disappointing, (I reload). The simple end of "What's the Best Caliber" is simply, accuracy and shot placement. If You have confidence and have practiced (with a good holster) then carry it. What will save your life is your shot placement not the caliber. A miss is still a miss and a hit is still a hit! Great Video! Thanks

[@garythornbury9793]

glad your ok

[@bretaschleman8289]

Xd all day... yeah

[@jseden]

+1 for the 45.. ive owned pretty much every caliber, aside from 9mm (shot many, Just don’t like em for some reason) and I shoot 45 the best, particularly from a 1911. Currently carrying a kimber ultra carry. It also happened to come with laser grips which I always thought of as kind of gimmicky but they’ll definitely get you on target quicker.

[@primate4]

I just keep it simple man! I have carried a Glock 27 .40 caliber for 26 years and I stick to just that because it works for me. I was never one of those gun of the week type guys. I’m a 1911 guy, but absolutely hate Kimbers! Overrated and overpriced just like Harleys!

[@derekdowns6275]

A non-commercial round can be quite a risk in a courtroom. Of course, a courtroom beats a morgue, but still, something to consider.

[@wildbill5680]

Just found your channel. Excellent!! I see I'm 1 yr behind. Just took my CCW class and I was the only one who shot 45acp. I'm 62, the kids LOL 21-30yrs old all had 9mm. The 2 girls had .380. After class everyone had to see my GLOCK 30s. 1 instructor took my firearm and put 20 rounds through it because he was thinking about buying one himself. He's an off duty sherriff. It was fun and we all agreed it's whatever you want and shoot best and WILL CARRY EVERY DAY! GREAT UTUBE CHANNEL AND GLAD I FOUND IT!!

[@frankmontez6853]

How is carrying capacity? That is one reason why I don't have one. I've a HK VP 40 S&W with 13 rounds and that's low enough for me. No less.

[@user-om6if1nv3d]

John, I have a question: per your analysis the 22LR or 22Magnum hollowpoint cannot even be seriously considered for defense carrying? ALWAYS LUV UR Vids + analysis! T vm in advance.

[@curtisrichey4431]

I carry 30s also. Really like how easy it is to conceal and how accurate and reliable it is. NEVER had a failure to launch!!

[@glockster68]

Carry what you want....380 auto to 45acp but get training shooting said caliber pistol is one of the most important things out there.....

[@kurtschmaldinst3173]

glockster68 you couldn't be more right. !!!!!

[@SurvivalistMedia]

Don’t take gun advice from someone with Glock in their name. It’s like taking homeowner advice from someone who lives in their van.

[@thehamburglar9mm]

@@SurvivalistMedia you are pathetic.

[@danielsuzuki1lbj924]

This is very very good advice. Shot placement trumps caliber - mostly.

[@KeepTheGates]

Wrong. Don't carry 380

[@67judson]

A well placed shot is the key. David killed Goliath with a stone. Great video!

[@goldmouthtakenoshit]

Fake ass story

[@elche1976]

@@goldmouthtakenoshit says the fake ass little man.

[@michaelparker4457]

Colion Noir says that the Stone David used was actually a 45 bullet! Funny Video...check it out 😜

[@timothycampbell495]

Welllll, strictly speaking the slung stone disabled Goliath. The actual cause of death was David hacking Goliath's head off with a sword, AFTER the stone put him on the ground.

[@c0mputer]

Very interesting talk with Malcolm Gladwell on the David and Goliath story. Religion in general is a crock but a lot of the Old Testament stories were based (very loosely) on real events. He talks about the stones in that area happened to be one of the most dense stones on the planet and the accuracy those sling shot marksmen had were incredible. Records of them being able to shoot birds out of the sky.

[@wendykalman9975]

My husband and I chose .40 for one reason: It's always available. Whenever an ammo shortage occurs, 9mm is impossible to find. Plenty of .40, .356 sig, etc.

[@ms.annthrope415]

That's why you stock up before an ammo shortage. I buy a box of 50 this week, a box of 100 next week, a box of 50 this month, a box of 200 next month. I have some 5,000 rounds in my house. Over 1,200 rounds of .45 ACP ,FMJ just for the SHTF.

[@LovingIdaho]

@@ms.annthrope415 , some of us had plenty long before . It makes it easy when you have been buying things since the 80s .

[@SGT_Fon]

A mostly overlooked caliber that I use for EDC is 357 Sig in a Beretta 8357 cougar.

[@theroller5673]

Nice work John! Tip toed right through the tulips (caliber debate) while making great points from start to finish. Shot placement IS king! Practice, practice, practice folks! All angles, all scenarios, left hand, right hand, dry fire, magazine changes, everything!

[@MrKeith75]

Great video as always. I actually like the .40 cal ultra defense. .40 cal 60 grain JHP. 2000 FPS. Very nice protection round with not too much recoil.

[@kellymeggison9418]

That's the most objective opinion on this volatile subject that I've ever seen in video! Couldn't agree more, also!

[@MrGsteele]

9mm is effective because you can stack more rounds in the magazine. Most people in a gunfight freeze, fire wildly and miss, and forget to reload or keep pulling the trigger on an empty gun. Bullets that don't hit don't stop attackers, and neither do bullets that are in a magazine that isn't in the gun. Having more bullets in the magazine in your gun improves your odds of hitting something, if you don't freeze and you remember to pull the thing and start shooting.

[@TeamTopKick]

Sounds good but think this way. You in a life and death situation your plastic fantastic 9mm hold 19 +1. You freakout and mag dump. Threats ended. You break your tunnel vision. Go to make sure your bad guy is totally down and no longer armed. You take a deep breath and glad you lived through the ordeal notice one single fatal shot hit the badguy and then hear someone scream in horror and find out one of those stray bullets hit someone's kid and killed them. Spray and pray ain't the answer and when people say capacity over power is what I see. Bullets keep going and have to hit something. Don't wanna send 20 rounds down the barrel to hit the target once.

[@johnconnersmithllc6095]

George Steele true..I also like having 2-3 extra mags in my pockets.

[@johnconnersmithllc6095]

Brandon BriBri_Bryce Pike well that's why you're supposed to look down range even in a hostile situation and try to fire subjectively, accurately not like you're in the f****** Hood doing a drive-by

[@garythornbury9793]

@@TeamTopKick great point

[@garythornbury9793]

@R Lee U good i hope you and your wife are ok

[@erickzuniga3113]

I absolutely love how John got closer to the camera and said no fat jokes. Cried from laughter!

[@ASPextra]

:)

[@P_double_H]

9mm... affordable, decent expansion, lots of rounds, low recoil, what else do we want?

[@GnosticCushite]

9mm, will jam.

[@Dedhedted71]

ammo does not jam. Only a gun jams. Any caliber ammo could jam depending on the gun.

[@MrMarrok657]

Cushite Calisthenics my smith shield hasnt jammed once. over 500 rounds. it was bought used so who knows how many were through it before

[@Unreelme]

10mm/357 mag when you want to end the fight fast. and have a bit more money to spare on ammunition.

[@hachi-rokuperformancegroup3987]

40s&w affordable better expansion about the same round capacity for the most part. I would rather have my px4 chambered in 40s&w 17+1 then the same px4 in 9mm with 17+1

[@jeffcongdon4772]

Fantastic video. Gets people thinking. I carry 9hst 124. However the reality is when shit gets real it’s the round you can put on target as quickly and consistently as possible. But if you really want to get control of situation a larger round is always better and what you want to train towards. Shoot what you can. Something is better than nothing.

[@ben41281]

In my testing I've found that .32ACP and .380ACP will achieve the penetration needed. So for me I wouldn't go any smaller. But when it comes to larger calibers, all the ones I tested do fine. So pick the one that you are comfortable with.

[@ianfinch7918]

John, you are so full of knowledge and the channel is loaded with great information. Thank you!

[@ASPextra]

Thanks Ian! Doing my best to help.

[@Aaron_Jensen]

10mm for the win. Let's just hope its popularity increases in the coming years like some have speculated.

[@JasonW.]

G20 w/ 10mm in 145 light recoil for speed, or 220 hardcast for effect. i also wish it would get more popular for lighter recoil on the wallet

[@Randomhero814]

10mm, the bitcoin of ammo.

[@Aaron_Jensen]

Chris Minneapolis -By popular I'm talking about it becoming a mainstream ammo alongside of 9, .40, and .45. I don't know how it is around where you live, but around me 10mm can be a bitch to find a lot of the time. Now .40 Super is something I've never actually been able to come across in person, and from what I've heard from my instructors that have shot it is that it's expensive overkill in comparison to something like the 10mm.

[@Lee-rq1ek]

The cartridge has been out for 34 years...I don't believe it's going to get any popular because a majority of people complain too much about recoil and being able to carry without feeling the weight of a handgun...both silly reasons in my opinion. I never fell into the 10MM club, but from experience, it is an effective fight stopping cartridge.

[@Lee-rq1ek]

I'm sorry, but there would be many people who couldn't handle the recoil. Let's face it, if it were such a popular round, more would be carrying such. More people carry the 9MM because there is less recoil. The cartridge is fine. I find 10MM fans to be much like Glock fans...there is no better cartridge or handgun.

[@thelastjohnwayne]

Over the last couple of years I have watched this video numerous times not because I do not know the information. I watch it because John does such a great job on this video covering this topic.

[@TheBakerCompany86]

This was extremely informative. Thanks for taking the time to put this together and for the links to the ballistic tests. This confirms my choice and makes me feel even more confident in my decision, both in caliber and ammunition choice (Glock 22, .40 using Hornady Critical Defense 165gr FTX).

[@masonlee5453]

I agree with 100% of every talking point John said. I'm glad he brought up the temporary wound cavity which is how the body stretches when a bullet enters flesh because of the air that it carries based on FPS. John said 2500fps, but 2200 fps and above is the starting threshold where the elasticity of human flesh cannot withstand the expansions of such speeds. Therefore, projectiles traveling at that rate will tear vital organs that it comes close to while slower pistol calibers must hit vital organs dead on to deal critical damage. A typical 9mm round although 124 grain will leave permanent wound cavities approximately the size of the expansion of the hollow point. While a 556 round at less than half the grain size, 55 grain, will shred and destroy flesh. This explains why rifle rounds don't put holes in watermelons but rather they explode when shot. Imagine a jet ski traveling on water and how the waves expand in its trail. A bullet moves through the air the same way. Now when talking about rifle rounds, you have to understand that different rounds for different things. There are hunting rounds and anti-material rounds. 308 Winchester is great for hunting large game. a 50 cal BMG is an anti-material round, its meant for shooting through building walls. When hunting small game, you want to use really small calibers, that way the rabbit doesn't explode and the meat is destroyed. There is no such thing as a sniper rifle, If you snipe people with a rifle, it is now a sniper rifle and you're a murderer. When you think about it, hitting a deer with a scope is just as much sniping as any target whether is stationary or the ambassador. The 223/556 round is ideal for use against humans. Even an AR pistol can fire at 2300 fps out of a 7-inch barrel. If shot out of a typical 16-inch barrel like an MP sport15 or Springfield saint. You're looking at 3000 FPS. with a really sharp 55grain projectile. For all you AK fans out there, an AK will smash up a car much better than any AR can, true, but if you're looking for defense against people? The damage you can do with an AR-15 on human flesh is on the level of a Mortal Kombat Fatality. In regards to pistol rounds, I think one of the best things to consider is your paired rifle. For example, there are advantages to carrying a rifle with a matching sidearm chambered in the same caliber for the sake of ammo sharing. but if we're just talking about shooting bad guys with handguns. I don't see the purpose of revolvers these days outside of reliability. There are a few revolvers that hold 1 or 2 more rounds in 357 than 44. However, those are super expensive and rare. Most revolvers are all 6 shots, and unless you're in Alaska where you don't know if it's gonna be for a human or a bear. There is no reason to carry a dirty harry. As for the reliability argument, I think that in 2019, so many companies have perfected the john browning design that any MP or Sd9, to Glock, vp9, ppq. it's at life dependable reliability. As for research on the lucky gunner, if you look at all calibers from 9mm to 40 cal to 45. and then find the best combination of penetration and expansion. You'll see that there is not much difference these days. Although a 45 is a larger bullet, depending on the brand it does not necessarily penetrate better than a 9mm nor expand better. That being said, I don't see how anyone would shoot a the same pistol better in a larger caliber. You might shoot a Glock 21 better than you can shoot a Ruger security 9. However, that could just be the pistol grip. I highly doubt anyone shoots a 21 better than a 17. And by shoot better I mean not just accuracy but also recovery. It makes no sense a human can recover better from a gun with more recoil than less recoil. With all that Said, these days, there aren't many good reasons why all your pistols shouldn't be in 9MM. Lucky gunrunner has a video on this topic with two experts from federal. They specifically say they can make the ballistic result of a 9mm on par with any 40 cal or 45 acp. So why not pick the softer shooting one with more rounds if the results are negligible? You should also consider the fact that many pistols come in both 9mm or 40cal. The 9mm version although different barrel shares the same slide as well as other parts in the gun. The 9mm will put less wear on the gun than the 40 cal would and come with a thicker barrel.

[@matthewbeaver5026]

The only part of that I would disagree with. 3000fps is obtainable in a 16" barrel only with 5.56. .223. Needs a 20/24" be lucky to be over 2700 in a 16 with 223 pressures Advertised velocity for 223 is almost always taken with a 24 or 26. If one wants their 16" ar capable of penetrating sub level 4 BA stock 5.56!

[@thelastjohnwayne]

John was 100% right in directing people to the Lucky Gunner site for most of your ballistic caliber questions. They do a great job.

[@rickmanley767]

Yes,also check out Shooting The Bull 410 has great gel test comparisons for those looking for the best ammo shot from a three inch barrel.

[@bldlightpainting]

You forgot .38 Special, .327 Federal Magnum, 10mm, .41 Magnum, and .357SIG. And of course, as you mentioned, perhaps the most popular and proven man-stopper the .45 ACP. However, I totally agree with your end result. Therefore, for most people, somewhere between a 9mm and .45ACP will probably be the best choice, with of course high-quality bonded ammunition like Federal HST.

[@coryburns834]

I had a Smith and Wesson 41 mag great gun

[@wendykalman9975]

Totally agree. My husband and have .40 caliber Sigs . When a run on ammo happens 9mm is very difficult to find. Plenty of .40 around 🤷

[@wendykalman9975]

@@coryburns834 I'm extremely jealous. That's a rare revolver. We have a .44 model 29 from 1980. Could have gotten a .41 then. Wish I had.

[@mrgroosumthasandman8046]

I could've swore I was a subscriber to ACTIVE SELF PROTECTION channel!!! Out of many self PROTECTION channels and videos I can honestly say I really enjoy your content man! Keep it up!

[@FoeHammerTime]

I went from a .45 ACP (Kahr CW45), to a .380 (S&W Bodyguard), to a 9mm (Springfield Hellcat). The Hellcat is perfect because I trust it to put hits on target (like I do my .45), and it's easy to carry (like my .380 was), but it has double the capacity of either one of those while still being in between them on size.

[@frankcastle9691]

The hellcat is a great gun. 15 rounds is insane for such a small gun.

[@danpeterson3921]

Interesting you say that, my first carry gun was a Kahr CW45 also, and then we got a .380 Smith and Wesson bodyguard for my wife, but depending on where we’re going, or what we’re doing, I sometimes carry it because it’s so much smaller and easier to conceal. Now I’m debating getting a 9 mm, primarily for the higher around capacity. Just can’t decide which one I want to get, Sig Sauer P365 XL, Canik TP9 elite SC, Springfield hellcat pro, or Smith & Wesson shield plus.

[@FoeHammerTime]

@@danpeterson3921 Those were the same options I debated. I landed on the Hellcat because it fits my hand so well and packs amazing capacity, as well as a light and optic. I want to replace my Bpdyguard though with a Ruger LCP Max. Seems like an amazing little pocket pistol with great features for a good price.

[@patrickbrown1828]

Hellcat rocks, many rds now issues.

[@solarflare1008]

For personal defense and since forever the 125 silver tip hollow point .357 magnum. One shot and problem solve.

[@P_double_H]

Comparing 9 vs 40 vs 45 is the equivalent to comparing Inline-4 vs V6 vs V8 cars. No matter which one you choose, you'll get your job done!

[@willatkinson953]

This was onemof the best discussions I've heard on this subject. Each person has to make this a personal decision. Maybe, in different settings you would choose a different tool and/or a different round! Lots of variables.

[@dreama8996]

That was probably the most helpful bit of tactical information ive seen so far in my life. I can now decide on a firearm. After deciding how to budget for one! BUT, for me, i was liking the 380's Sig Saur etc but i didnt have confidence in the bullet. Now, i know i want a bigger semiauto handgun which i will carry concealed. THANKS JOHN - ur like a big brother on this stuff for me & means a lot. 👍🙏

[@SeeFoodDie]

Check out the Sig 365 or the Glock 43. Have both among other and they are excellent

[@stevenkramer1975]

PULP FICTION STYLE, "Aaaaw man, I shot Marvin in the face!"

[@calvinlong1265]

I like the 380. My EDC is the Bersa Thunder.

[@codyandtiffanibehr8813]

I also have a bersa thunder .380. I like it because its got a double stacked mag. 15+1. Also small and easy to conceal with minimal recoil.

[@kevinwise1997]

"No fat jokes please, it's just to easy" Me: *raises eye brow* I wasn't going to but that cut away caught me off gaurd and I died in laughter at the comment!😂😂😂😂😂

[@PathinAZ]

Paul Harrell has YT page and he extensively tests different size rounds with different manufacture loads. Many yrs ago it was more definitive of what size rounds were better. A .45 was much better than a 9. Now-a-days, the technology of the defensive rounds has come such a long way (as an example) a 9mm performs just as well as a .40 or .45 cal. If you're interested in how your carry round performs, (he uses a life-like construction of clothes, ribs (meat), oranges as lung tissue and more clothes behind) I'd check out his page. Good luck and be safe!

[@ASPextra]

I don't like that test at all and don't recommend it.

[@PathinAZ]

I understand hwy, it's not a standardized test for comparison. The point, was that he used the same medium for all rounds, therefore at least creating a decent comparison between how the different rounds act on it. I respect your knowledge, training and input, but when you make a statement and don't even give a short explanation, nothing can be learned from it. Thanks.

[@RobertViani]

I watched that video... a few times. Seems like a realistic scenario vs. shooting through ballistic gel.

[@JasonW.]

Path in AZ The tactical fleece backstop shows Paul cares

[@cub8556]

I give more credence to an experienced hunter and his goofy meat target than online experts with gel. FBI has different needs than your average citizen.

[@Chris_KS5KY]

Watching quite a few of your videos have really changed my perspective on things. I appreciate that you take on the strict CCW approach because as you stated, there is a huge difference in mission for LEO/Military than the day-to-day CCW person. That's a mental transformation I'm trying to make and your videos are a huge help. Thank you.

[@ASPextra]

Glad to help!

[@seppseppelmann4259]

10mm glock 29 with customized 5 inch barrel +compensator

[@kellymeggison9418]

sepp seppelman, I really like my 29 gen 4, as well, it's my new carry piece and has replaced my 27!

[@OldGriz708]

I carry a G20 10MM because of where I live. I a single day I could run across: Black Bear Johnny Crud Grizzly bear Coyotes Wolf My. Lion Or a pissed off moose. I find the 10MM to be the best all around caliber for me.

[@FraterAlex]

In case we have an "Invasion of the Incredible Jello Men" , the FBI will be good to go.

[@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595]

🙄

[@nodakjohnsful]

😅🤣😂 i have had the same thought ! ( wth is wrong with us ?😁😆😄)

[@CousinCornbread]

This is hilarious lmao

[@DaveMiller2]

This is actually the best, most honest video I've seen on this subject. I especially like the quote about the caliber wars: "The reality is, this discussion generates a lot of heat, but not a lot of light."

[@dsbiddle]

9mm Glock 19. Pretty tough to beat.

[@garythornbury9793]

glocks are good weapons

[@jaredfrazier2216]

@teknomogul $100 is nothing. Not really a good argument when your talking in the $500 range

[@crackerjack6454]

Mines G17... Just a little longer barrel, and fits my hand real nicely! (Actually it's a P80 G17) 😜

[@garythornbury9793]

@@crackerjack6454 that sounds nice im not familiar with that one i have a hk vp9

[@michaelchiarito2628]

Walther PPQ m2 9mm and .45 blow it out of the water

[@jeffschultz8817]

Just did my quarterly rotation of carry ammo and ordered a replacement batch of 250 rounds of 147gr HSTs today. Every 90 days I swap them out and use the old ones at the range or in a match.

[@ASPextra]

That's a very conservative way to do it, but it's certainly not wrong.

[@SparklingTacos]

That’s a very expensive procedure for carry ammo which isn’t going to fail to go bang even after 5 years.

[@jeffschultz8817]

I'd agree I'm leaning to the far end of the conservative side on this one, but I am open to a change based on research and data. Also, $125/yr for carry ammo is not expensive to me - I think most people spend more than that on Starbucks per year. Also, 250 rounds is about a years worth. I buy in bulk to get the price down to about $0.50 p/round. John - My reason for the conservatism is two-fold. 1) I've heard a couple of horror stories about failures to fire that were induced by extreme bullet set back. Because I dry fire ~5 times a week, I am constantly unloading and re-chambering carry rounds. I do my best to rotate the round that gets chambered in a systematic fashion. Am I over thinking/reacting on this one? How many times can a round be chambered before its a no go for a critical incident? What is your protocol for administrative loading and re-loading your carry ammo? 2) I live in the midwest where there is changing seasons. I'm sure this is less of an issue, but I'm hypothesizing that ammunition ages faster when carried close to your sweaty skin in and out of hot/cold and wet/dry environments. Is this gun shop stupidity?

[@jeffschultz8817]

Josh - That is my plan down the road when I can afford it. The G19 is the only gun I own besides my dad's old single shot 20ga which I inherited. I plan to purchase a G43, then an AR, and then a 17or34, and then circle back and get a second G19 and downgrade my current one to a practice gun. That will probably take a year or two to accomplish. A SIRT pistol would be another way to accomplish less wear and tear on my carry gun as well - something I'm considering.

[@theimmortal4718]

I can't imagine how bullet setback would cause an FTF. It might increase chamber pressure, but the primer will still go off no matter how many times its chambered. I just keep a few mags of hollow points and practice with fmj. Both are 124 gr as in and neither I or the gun can tell the difference between the two, though my wallet can.

[@rickh9396]

Several KZbin channels (MAC, Paul Harrell, et al) convinced me through their testing that Underwood's Xtreme Defender is a game-changer for .380 ACP. I like that it allows me to carry a 7.7 oz (unloaded weight) KelTec P3AT, which I'll almost certainly never have to use.

[@youlostthedebate]

@@Romans6.1-2 have the same gun. Love my Glock 42

[@franklinnose]

John, Can you or have you done a video on the " 21 foot rule"? I'm tired of hearing all these CCWs claiming they DON'T need EMPTY HAND skills. Many years ago Danny Inosanto, Bruce Lee's training partner did an EXCELLENT video on this topic using a KNIFE. Just for the sake of REINFORCING the point, you doing it would be GREAT!

[@ASPextra]

Good idea!

[@franklinnose]

Active Self Protection Extra Yeah, I think YOU would present it EXCEPTIONALLY WELL!

[@f5tornadeau]

franklinnose late to the conversation, but I believe Instructor Zero from Funker Tactical has a knife vs pistol video you might want to watch. It’s an older video, but it was pretty interesting if I remember correctly.

[@therond.patron4959]

franklinnose Yes, you must be able to validate your empty and skills. You can't pull a pistol to settle a dispute doing so could land your ass in jail so you must be able to have valid hand skills.

[@franklinnose]

Theron Patron Exactly! People always tell me: " I don't need to learn that "stuff", I OWN (not necessarily even carry it) a gun. Imbeciles.

[@LawlessNate]

The correct answer is .357 magnum. (the following is from a 4 inch barrel) kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4uthHqAptiJfMk

[@Coopdog1911]

After much hemming and hawing and money spent over the years, I think I am pretty confident that my S&W Airweight .38 is about as good as it gets for me and my wife too. As the guy below me there said, the gun that works is the one that you have with you. Our Airweights go with us everywhere. I have had too many semi-auto's fail me occasionally. I love my 45 but it's a bit much for daily carry as heavy as it is.

[@sttvoyager1727]

No .45 ACP HK USP EXPERT (only one of the greatest guns ever made) 🤣👍🏻. Awesome channel buddy. Your doing God’s work!

[@darvinpreece601]

Great video. Very important topic. You did a very good presentation and discussion about it. I love this channel. It presents an extremely serious topic in a no-nonsense way. Keep up the great work!!!

[@ASPextra]

Thanks!

[@ejsgarage]

Great video! I am an armed security officer and personal protection specialist, My duty gun is Glock 19X with Hornady Critical Duty 9mm 135gr JHP +p and my patrol rifle is 5.56 M4A1. I was in Quantico and I talked to the FBI trainer, they are still training with the Glock 19.

[@evanwindom3265]

I think an important component is how much you're willing to shoot it to achieve and maintain a high level of marksmanship. A .44 may stop a charging '78 Buick, but if its owner can't hit with it because he's intimidated by it, it's not much of a tool. I have a friend who carries a ultra compact ported .45 ACP, but he HATES to shoot it, which kind of defeats the purpose.

[@ASPextra]

It does indeed!

[@nicktaylor5952]

I shot 45s with less recoil than polymer 9mms. You're friend needs a bigger gun preferably heavier and metal.

[@evanwindom3265]

@@nicktaylor5952 It's a super compact all-steel pistol with a very short ported barrel. I think part of the problem is that the grip is so small it's hard to feel like you have a solid grip on the jumpy little thing. The issue may also be less about the recoil and more about the noise. I think it's the Springfield V10, but don't quote me on that.

[@kayper22]

There is almost zero discernible difference in the terminal ballistics of a 9mm, .40, and .45 firing the same round. Carry what you are most comfortable shooting, and piss on everyone's unsubstantiated opinions.

[@Unreelme]

This is true, but anything 10mm/357magnum and larger will have a different terminal effect. 44 magnum will show a discernible difference compared with a 9mm.

[@s.g.3042]

@@Unreelme and why would anyone want a .44 Mag for upclose and personal self-defense?

[@Unreelme]

I have a 10mm and a 9mm. I would use the 10mm if something was actually going down, I have practiced with it more than the 9, its also about being comfortable. I personally would never carry a 44 or 357 magnum because I think revolvers are a tad ridiculous. but hey, everyone has a preference. If you have held and shot full house 9 and 10 you would know that it is just about 60% more powerful. The Case capacity on a 10mm is significantly larger, akin to a 357 mag. Some people prefer "45" for stopping power but it is actually weaker ballistically than 40 s & w.

[@Unreelme]

10mm can shred soft body armor, 9mm will struggle with civilian ammunition. One of the reasons, although a small one.

[@a.wheeler7731]

some .380 loads have more muzzle energy than some 9mm loads too. Underwood .380 vs federal HST 9mm the underwood has 18 more foot lbs

[@jonathanhollis6030]

My family and I love your channel and teachings John. To comment on this topic, After doing drills, I noticed i was more accurate with first and follow up shots and faster from conceal draw with a Baretta 40 cal, despite carrying and more time training with a smith and wesson 9mm. Which really highlights that its important to try and train with different calibers and platforms. Not saying one gun or caliber is better than the other, its just for me im better with that set of tools.

[@dustinpomeroy8817]

Right now it's the gun that the store just happens to have ammo for

[@redcell9636]

@@___meph___4547 one of the reasons I want to build a Glock for 10mm/40 S&W.

[@tigerleo2186]

Like a bunch have already said, I took the compromise. .40 S&W. 14 in the mag +1 in the pipe, pretty good ballistics, and fairly good sized hole.

[@702johnny]

I still don't get how the 40 is a compromise... It is not between 9mm and 45acp. Testing will show you that.

[@tigerleo2186]

johnathan wood 180 grain hollow point= little bit smaller than the .45acp at speeds slightly slower than a 9mm...

[@702johnny]

Tony Owens see this is were we get into brands and loads. A 9mm loaded hot is not the same as a 40s&w or a 10mm with the same weight bullet but alot more powder.

[@702johnny]

Tony Owens there is more than just bullet diameter and weight. Penetration has to be taken into account when you are talking about how powerful a round is.

[@tigerleo2186]

johnathan wood you're right about that, but b broad generalities is where I'm talking. If you wanted to get into +P or +P+ we'd have to have a very long discussion to end up right back here. To me the .40 is a compromise. And it will get there job done.

[@nickevans96]

Carrying: 9mm in pistol, Underwood extreme penetrator/defender, House/Truck: 12 gauge buck shot, 5.56 ar pistol 7.5 inch barrel with Franklin III binary trigger, plate carrier level III plus

[@nickevans96]

Oops no more buck… switched to slugs

[@herosupport1606]

10mm with in a carbine "what do you mean i'm printing officer?"

[@phigdon3]

Yeah, my HiPoint 380 carbine prints a mite as well...Spot on with the laser though...

[@unitedstatesdale]

One .22 short to the forehead rules. Its all about accuracy under stress. Practice Practice Practice

[@dylanwatkins8968]

Agreed

[@theanxious]

Been there, done exactly just that. You ain't kidding. Well, I hit him between the eyes just to the side of the bridge of his nose and it bounced off the back of his skull and moved about 3 inches deeper back into his brain. He survived, but was instantly incapacitated and was a miracle honestly. He still isn't recovered 100% 10 years later and never will be. Just a regular .22 short out of an old 1" barrel "Saturday night special" ,"belly gun" etc. No long barrel, no nothing. I pointed, the gun went bang and by the time I could see again (pure shock I reckon)he was on the ground gushing blood and gurgling and shit. Absolutely horrible, but it is what it is and I did NOT choose to be put in that situation. But yes, speaking from experience, in my PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, your comment is 100% correct. I WISH I didn't know this personally, but I do lol. Might as well share. @bonezcustoms on Instagram

[@wholeteamred740]

@@theanxious what do you carry today

[@theanxious]

@@wholeteamred740 I generally carry my new Smith & Wesson M&P Shield. I also have a Taurus G3C that I carry at times(when I plan to get dirty, its a great little gun for the price) and several others that I carried for periods of time. I usually carry the gun i shoot with most and at the moment its my Smith and Wesson 9mm. All my guns I carry now tend to be 9mm or .40 cal. 9mm being my choice.. I Love my .357 magnum revolver too though lol. I carry what I know how to use well, and what I know I can depend on... those are the most important criteria.

[@wholeteamred740]

@@theanxious 9, 40, 357. All capable cartridges. I guess you wouldn't run a 22lr then?

[@soujrnr]

I bought a .40 cal Shield, but it was too difficult to rack the slide. My wife couldn't even get a round in the chamber, and she was very intimidated by it overall. So, I traded it in for a Bersa Thunder .380, and it's wonderful. My wife was a bit intimidated with the .380 as well because she wanted to become more proficient and comfortable with something smaller before carrying it concealed. So, I also bought a Ruger .22, and she really enjoys shooting that. I think she made the right decision so that she doesn't develop a flinch. She can shoot it quite well, but we still want to take some classes on real-life possibilities; not just shooting at stationary paper targets.

[@ASPextra]

I own a Thunder .380 and it's a surprisingly reliable gun.

[@jbblock7691]

Thank you for your video I always appreciate them and I always learn a lot of valuable information. It's okay to say 9 mm is by far the best round. Even out of a rifle it's extremely functional. Don't knock it until you try it. I do ballistic testing and I own most every caliber on the market. 9 mm is cheap accurate optimal and satisfying.

[@max7209]

Cheap... man this didn't age well.

[@nathancombs11]

I picked. 380 for my at work carry because the gun i put it in fit my uniform pockes the best. The co has a no guns rule but i have to go in to dark alleys at night so .380 better than nothing.

[@brianbuchert6382]

nathancombs11 that’s right don’t let people down talk your .380 dude I carried one for over a year and carried mine in my pocket at work too look up shooting the bull about the Lehigh extreme penetrator round for .380

[@jshepard152]

Just make sure your carry ammo feeds reliably. My LCP had real problems with some self defense ammo, and would hang up.

[@user-pz5ju7mw3k]

There’s a video on here about hornaday American gunner .380 it passed the fbi test. Went through 4” of denim and penetrated 14” with really good expansion. It’s what I’ve always carried in my Glock 42 and it’s never given me an issue with feeding or anything else. A good .380 round is more than sufficient to get the job done

[@phigdon3]

I use Underwood Ultimate Defender...The Penetrator round just keeps going leaving a hole much like an fmj...

[@michaelcraelius1082]

I would say your .380 is better than a snappy harder to conceal 9mm, and with equal real world results!

[@bennettprice3968]

My EDC is 9mm, but I've grown quite fon of my Glock 32 in 357 sig. Not much different than 9+p+ with commercial ammo but if you load with 90gr you can get velocities in the 1700 ft/sec. Thats 780 EngFt#. That's a game changer. Recoil is .40 s&wish.

[@leonardoreyesmeraz7148]

40 cal Glock is my choice. Stay safe, friends!

[@briancrabb4336]

glock 23 gen 4 all the way brother!!

[@DropzFields]

Glock 27 .40 cal edc

[@kipbissell412]

Brian Crabb 22 Gen 3 for me!

[@wyattblessing7078]

22 Gen 4 with 180g pills

[@adammanning1805]

Glock 27. Compact and hits like a sledge.

[@OehlJim]

Defend yourself with whatever you have on your hip at that time.

[@scottrobinson9752]

I live in a very rural area...but commute 90 mins to a large metro area for work. I also live in a Constitutional Carry state. When I am out and about, in the immediate (very very low crime) area where I live... I generally carry a 1911 in my truck. When I am commuting into the city to work, I often carry a my Walther PPK in .380 caliber.... My 1911 is something I'm very comfortable with, and have trained extensively with. Its also a good varmint stopper. I used to carry a 30-30 as a general purpose truck gun...but have switched to the 1911, and find thats it does just as well in most cases...and is easier to conceal in the truck. My Walther is easy to conceal when in the city...even on hot summer days when I wear lighter clothing. Its a gun I'm willing to carry in a wider variety of places. I heard someone classify the .380 round as the "get away from me!" bullet. And that may be true. But I think in most crime of opportunity encounters that you run into in urban settings... a .380 is enough to end most of those situations. And the .380 can get more lethal, the more you train with it. Learning target acquisition in stressful situations, and putting rounds in anatomically significant spots, can make someone just as dead. If I take my family on a long road trip, I carry my S&W 9mm...its the highest capacity handgun that I own. It offers more firepower, which can equate to cover fire, and buys time for your family members to find cover, potentially. So I think several factors apply when considering caliber. Comfort, accuracy, ease of concealment, training time on a given platform, the environment you live in...even availability and pricing of ammo. I know people who swear by esoteric guns and calibres...but can't afford to properly train with that platform.

[@martialparty6021]

That’s why I use an RPG 😂

[@macman975]

🤣🤣 Underrated Comment 🤣🤣

[@meat-hook]

This is why i signed up for field artillery. Fuck that guy, and everyone within 50 meters of him!

[@meilong2338]

Why not go for a tank?

[@martialparty6021]

@@meilong2338 too much fuel I like to shoulder my own guns. Besides it just stands in front of the TV 📺

[@woodrow1037]

If I don't have a squad of highly trained , motivated and heavily armed, 18 to 25 year old marines backing me up, I carry 9mm.

[@robertevras6577]

Woodrow 103 funny! And true I bet! Thanks for your service, and God bless.

[@ASPextra]

What do you carry when you do have a squad of Marines backing you up?

[@702johnny]

He lets the marines carry him John. Lol.

[@woodrow1037]

Active Self Protection Extra Remington 700 BDL .308. But that was a long time ago.

[@woodrow1037]

johnathan wood spoken like someone who's never been there.

[@shanescott3168]

I recently started carrying a Glock 42 .380 ACP with Hornady XTP ammo. I can carry the G42 discreetly all day long every day in my setting. Carrying a larger handgun was more difficult and uncomfortable for me, so I frequently did not carry on my person. I figure the G42 is adequate to break contact with a threat in my setting most of the time. It has low recoil and is very accurate. I keep a larger caliber and capacity handgun close by as much as possible.

[@ASPextra]

I think that's a good bullet choice for a .380.

[@rsvpcarservice5972]

Love the Clint Eastwood impersonation 🤣🤣🤣

[@captseamus]

38 Spl w Buffalo Bore Ourdoorsman ammo...

[@willie0001]

I agree 9mm is very easy to shoot fast and on target vs the 40. I started to shoot the 357sig and really like it, still able to shoot fast and on target with a little more umf than the 9mm

[@NowhereMan297]

Practice. Capacity. Reliability. Whatever you can practice with often, carry a sufficient number of in your weapon, and fire reliably.

[@vjm3]

Range practice: 22cal Conceal Protection: 9mm or 357 Conceal Protection and you want your opponent to explode: 45cal Sniper Shooting zombies and vagrants trying to steal your Post Apocalyptic crops: 300 Savage

[@WhitewaterOutdoors]

300 savage!

[@redcell9636]

Or 9x39 in a Vintorez if you wanna be Sneaky Breeki

[@shelbyckck]

Been subscribed to original ASP channel and just found this one 👌 and it's great, new sub.👍👍😒 great content ,straight to point and very good,sane,sober, prudent and moral advices great job... love what you say at the end of every video because you don't know when would be your last day. Thank you for reminding us👍👍👍👍👍

[@gonehuntn3261]

I’m curious of your thoughts on 10mm. Grip strength is not an issue since I was trained on .45 as a Marine. I have been carrying a Sig P229 elite chambered in .40 as a civilian simply for the added mag capacity. I would love to see a detailed analysis on the pros and cons of the added velocity behind a 10mm round.

[@ASPextra]

It's not wrong. Against humans it's no more or less effective than any other service caliber, I jokingly call it .40 Magnum. Does the job. Costs a ton. Punishing recoil if you shoot it a lot, no matter if you think you're a beast. Beats up guns because of the chamber pressures. Good if you live in an area with bears and I am not joking.

[@CCPvirus141]

I think I'll carry the .22 for self defense.

[@derfskittlers6125]

I love how you put up a backdrop. Sometimes you make me laugh. Good stuff.

[@ASPextra]

It's used daily for the main channel.

[@sttvoyager1727]

Fat jokes are too easY.....LMFAO GOOD ONE JOHN

[@joshh6104]

Not the case anymore!

[@williams9859]

If you are in an area with obesity like south Texas you need to carry the 500 smith and wesson.

[@williams9859]

josh benware I grew up in San Antonio and Rockport but moved to northern Nevada. You are right about Corpus. If people don't believe it all they would have to do is spend the day at La Palmera Mall or Port A beach.

[@williams9859]

josh benware Portland is a lot nicer. I usually drove through there when visiting my family members in Ingleside. I do miss the Red Fishing there though.

[@farwalker3672]

josh benware redfish are great. If I see that on the menu that’s what I will order no matter how it’s prepared. It’s a great fish to eat especially with a little crab meat sprinkled on top.

[@bigpeeler]

- LOL

[@FraterAlex]

Well covered and avoided the foolishness. I believe a blade is a good backup and might be considered as well, in addition to a firearm. Shot placement IS the key, thanks for pointing that out!

[@tommybonniot1126]

I sleep with a pillow under my Glock.

[@briancramer4840]

45acp for two reasons; 1, cuz shooting twice is silly. 2, like John, it's slow, fat and short and does just fine.

[@michaelmiller7909]

Brian Cramer how many firefights have you been in? I'm guessing ZERO since you think one round will do. I guess you never miss and always hit critical mass (head or heart). While you're on KZbin, search for people that keep coming after several gunshot wounds of different calibers. I've seen footage of someone take 14 of your beloved .45 (I like .45 too, but I'm making a point) and keep on coming. Do some research and forget what pappy told you. There's a reason new shooters do better than "hunters, gun nuts" in Marine Corps boot camp. No bad habits to "unlearn" and no bs caliber lore stuck in their head.

[@shmike3775]

Brian Cramer when you take advice from bumper stickers

[@willierants5880]

LOL

[@snowfall1771]

@@michaelmiller7909 fuck you a well placed 45 is more serious than a well placed 9 ..

[@ChickenNuggetsAndFries]

Michael Smith lol look at this little kid. Probably doesn’t even own a real gun and has no training

[@anthonygonzalez7313]

Pshhhhhh those first 2 points made this conversation personal 😂 I totally agree

[@simroc1289]

He had me at when he said his everyday is a hk vp9

[@tomanderson3007]

Good discussion, John.

[@anonymousm9113]

My LCP Max is a constant companion. Twenty-one rounds of .380 ACP is assuring enough. That said, it's usually a backup for a 9mm or .38 SPL. I've carried as small as .32 ACP and as large as .44 Magnum. In the end, it's what you can hit with.

[@Captain_Dark]

I carry .357 mag and .357 sig :)