For the Dacia phone holder you can buy a very small cable to charge the phone, that's the whole idea. So you don' have a long cable going all through your dashboard. It's a great idea.
@KanishQQuotes8 ай бұрын
Yes but urinalist gonna cry about no leather clad dashboard in a cheap city car
@raka5228 ай бұрын
The top USB port is also connected directly to the radio. If you only have the simple 8" media display installed and not the Media Nav, Android Auto or Apple Car Play can only be used via USB cable and not via WiFi.
@erroristmusic3 ай бұрын
@@KanishQQuotes how can u cry about anything in a cheap car??? I love old cars, cuz they're very minimalistic
@KanishQQuotes3 ай бұрын
@@erroristmusic tell that to the current crop of auto journos
@haroldpearson60253 ай бұрын
I think describing these cars as "cheap" is wrong, they are "inexpensive" and to a great extent value for money.
@WithCars98 ай бұрын
I like this idea of taking 3 cheap cars on a road trip, more of this please
@whatcar8 ай бұрын
Thank you! We have more cheap car road trips in the diary.
@WithCars98 ай бұрын
@@whatcar great to hear 👍
@DavidJohnston588 ай бұрын
@@whatcar I have now subscribed 👌
@crestas98 ай бұрын
@@whatcarplease also consider the Skoda Fabia or the Seat Ibiza
@jonsnow94288 ай бұрын
Way more informative than that other channel that just seems to just drag race each car. Also this may be a second (town) car purchase to get the kids to school
@ggj6668 ай бұрын
I must be getting old, the "budget" end of the car market is still 5K more than I have ever spent on a car.
@DavidJohnston588 ай бұрын
That's biting a lot of us on the butt!
@MysterioTGN8 ай бұрын
@nevis8106 No longer in North America unfortunately.
@chrishart85488 ай бұрын
@nevis8106i think not even owning a car at all is the way most people in the uk are heading. Used cars look to me now what i think new cars should cost.
@chrishart85488 ай бұрын
@nevis8106 really depends how bad the cost of living crisis gets. For a lot of people the car will be the first thing to go.
@I_know_what_im_talking_about8 ай бұрын
@@chrishart8548- we going back to horses or what? How you gonna travel without a car?! There’s PLENTY of quality used cars available. No reason to buy New unless you really like a model, really need it and obviously can afford it.
@geoffb32408 ай бұрын
So the gutless, 4 seat, boot the size of a thimble car wins?!?! Hmmmm!
@khalidacosta71338 ай бұрын
Yeah that's how it works. Doesn't even have a reach adjustable steering wheel. I had a mid spec 2017 C3 as a rental and I'd rather have that again over a jacked up Aygo.
@haziqali97168 ай бұрын
Actually love my Aygo X as a first car but would prefer a dacia just because this car genuinely has no power whatsoever 😢
@petermooney20168 ай бұрын
An SUV? 1 out of 3 - no Sports, and no Utility with a weeny boot.
@borsh20028 ай бұрын
@@petermooney2016 best comment, i must recon!
@spig0218 ай бұрын
The Toyota is NOT an SUV just because it has big plastic wheel arches.
@MTMihai8 ай бұрын
Wow, you actually managed to put that lack of space, lack of power, lack of looks Double Cross in pole position. Impressive!
@eadsierestorations8 ай бұрын
Yes....how much do Toyota pay you? Lol....how actually sad.
@dustinzitto6188 ай бұрын
I travelled from Bulgaria to Germany and back in the Dacia Logan (sedan version of the Sandero). The car is a bit noisy, fact, but the seats are superb. Back support is top notch.
@TheDarrenP8 ай бұрын
Mostly older tech which is far more reliable.
@tennolife99308 ай бұрын
We own a 2011 Logan 1.6L, it almost has 200k km on the dash. The car saw the service exactly zero times (besides oil/filters and belts). We also took it on roads where a land rover would clench its cheeks because for some reason the suspension is very soft and it has a lot of ground clearance, thing's seen the islands of greece, the mountains of switzerland and everything in between. It's absolutely surprising how good of a car it is. And we bought it new, top range with all the good stuff for only ~5000 EUR, I really doubt there is a single car on this planet more economical and practical than that. (maybe a close contender, but no necessarily due to its price, the Volkswagen Golf/Variant from 1999-2006 with the 1.9 TDI engine)
@raka5228 ай бұрын
@@TheDarrenP The fact that Dacia has mostly older technology is no longer the case since the Sandero 3. Current Clio technology is actually installed thanks to the current EU laws, which require certain safety functions that older vehicle chassis can no longer fulfill.
@rantg7 ай бұрын
can I hear more details about your trip? we are about to do the same :)
@erikvangelder66717 ай бұрын
I've owned a Dacia Duster Dci (Diesel) for vife years now. Never had any problem, it is as reliable as I'd expect (but didn't get) from much more expensive brands. Of course, an anectodic example is hardly proof of anything, but my experience seems to underscribe what many have experienced with Dacia. I'm going to trade our Dacia it now, because of financial strategic considerations, and practical considerations as to which fuel is best for the shorter trips I nowerdays do, unlike before when I usually did longer trips (and more often). Our next car will be, not surprisingly, a Dacia Duster again, but this time around, it will be the Hybrid version. As the Sandero is technically practically the same or at least very similar to the Duster Sandero, I expect the Sandero's to be just as reliable
@Twmpa8 ай бұрын
Cramped, claustrophobic, gutless, limited rear space, small boot, slowest infotainment, most expensive. All terms used to describe the Toyota which also only has four seats, sits in a class below the other two and is the most expensive. The top of the range Aygo X at nearly 20 grand for what is effectively a competitor to a Kia Picanto is ludicrously expensive. Yet somehow, it wins this test???
@TheMaleforce8 ай бұрын
Test was done by generation woke who have no idea about anything, the Aygo is not a proper car as you say it's more like a Picanto. One simple rule applies to depreciation, the more you pay the more you lose. Dacia Sandero is far better than the other two.
@konhenry97138 ай бұрын
Toyota boot space is limited and this conclusion to toyota winning is ridiculous
@devonbikefilms8 ай бұрын
Advertising revenue? I’ve driven all these cars and this is not the conclusion I would have come to. The Dacia on the other hand, I’d definitely be happy with that. The toy mota is just too expensive.
@leaningtower738 ай бұрын
In fact what a weird conclusion these guys came up with. Who told them practicality is not important in the low end price range? Just for interior space and boot capacity I would buy the Sandero
@riceburner47478 ай бұрын
Competitor to the KIA?? I bet you pay more in maintenance. If I would be looking for large/luxurious cars, I wouldn't be looking at these. Cheap DEPENDABLE car is what I'D WANT.🇱🇷
@drasticplastic8 ай бұрын
I traded in a C3 against an Aygo X automatic for my wife. We had it 3 months and she absolutely hated it too small too slow and far too noisy. So I ended trading it in for another C3 which she finds very comfortable and loves. It taught me an expensive lesson do not surprise your wife with a new car without asking her 1st.
@LIONtib8 ай бұрын
Or maybe just don't downgrade from a subcompact to a supermini??
@JimboRustles8 ай бұрын
I drove a C3 and found it dreadful compared to my 2010 Honda Civic, can't imagined what an Aygo feels like then
@LIONtib8 ай бұрын
@@JimboRustles The Civic is in a class above the C3. To be fair the C3 is only nice in the upper trim levels. The lower ones look and feel as cheap as it gets. And the Aygo is somehow worse.
@JimboRustles8 ай бұрын
@@LIONtib It was the engine that felt horrible, supposedly it's 83 hp but feels like 50, a 75 hp Peugeot 206 runs like a Swiss clock compared to those 3 cylinders.
@ianworley81698 ай бұрын
I loved the look of the C3 and wanted to buy one for my wife. I was made up to be given one as a hire car on holiday. The worst car I've ever driven. It actually made me feel nauseous driving it on winding roads. Wallowed about on the least bends and utterly gutless up steep hills. Horrible car.
@stevencampbell11508 ай бұрын
I can answer that with 2 words... Good news! The Dacia Sandero is going to win hands down and they're brilliant value and great cars to drive.
@TheSwaroopB8 ай бұрын
*crowd cheers* "Ahem, moving on..."
@alfredorubertecalvo8789Ай бұрын
Sandero MANY fault manufactured.Revoltig.
@stevencampbell1150Ай бұрын
@@alfredorubertecalvo8789 absolute nonsense
@lakesandfells8 ай бұрын
For me the Dacia was the clear winner in this test.
@ralzvy8 ай бұрын
for me no cus its a dacia
@Adi7x8 ай бұрын
MG4
@kaloyancholakov37258 ай бұрын
You have to be a madman/risktaker to buy dacia before toyota.
@AdrianroTV8 ай бұрын
True, Dacia has the most comfort out of the 3, it has bigger space, bigger boot, faster acceleration and it looks better than the other 2.
@aarondynamics13118 ай бұрын
@@ralzvy What's that supposed to mean?
@naferemix8 ай бұрын
Dacia easily. Shame the price has shot up so much but it’s all the necessary benefits of a new Clio without the ‘impersonation’ of a plush interior and creaky extra decor
@BentleyLover20268 ай бұрын
Yea and their 2 star crash safety rating is amazing..
@dustinzitto6188 ай бұрын
@@BentleyLover2026not for structural reasons though.
@BentleyLover20268 ай бұрын
@@dustinzitto618 hmm maybe because they’re so bloody cheap..
@skeed.57688 ай бұрын
@@BentleyLover2026their crash rating is 2 stars because of the lack of pedestrian safety systems, but if you crash in a dacia you have just as much chance of a survival as if you crashed in a renault clio
@BentleyLover20268 ай бұрын
Still not an excuse for being unsafe 🤦🏼
@markvincent43408 ай бұрын
The aygo and sandero are completely different. Aygo is a four seater, sandero has five seats. Aygo boot is so small, but sandero is pretty big. Sandero beats the aygo any day.
@codincoman90198 ай бұрын
Except if you need a smaller car, with a small boot etc.
@markvincent43408 ай бұрын
@@codincoman9019 Exactly
@razvanursache94938 ай бұрын
Who would pay more money for a smaller car? More money for less boot space, for less space on the back bench, less power, less looks? Where's the convenience in that?
@peterhayward18488 ай бұрын
More safety kit and better reliability in the Aygo X.
@codincoman90198 ай бұрын
@@razvanursache9493, nu toți au aceleași nevoi ca tine. De exemplu, eu prefer o mașină mai mică, mai fiabilă, cu costuri mai mici de întreținere pe durata vieții (TCO, Total Cost of Ownership), cu design mai fain etc.
@maxhugen8 ай бұрын
"The average price of a car in *2023* ?" £37k number may well be *because the **_average_** person couldn't afford a new car in 2023.*
@rleerm8 ай бұрын
I suppose that price excludes 2nd hand cars and includes lease. Best cheap car is a 2nd hand car. Best for environment as well.
@UnusSedLeo-w5l8 ай бұрын
Same here in the Netherlands. Almost 40K in Euro's for a new car.... My 2009 Renault costed 14K new and has all I need. Where did it all go wrong?
@maxhugen8 ай бұрын
@@UnusSedLeo-w5l But but but you'll save money... on the insurance - oops, I meant on tires - oops I meant on depreciation - oops... 😂 AND... you could buy another Renault for probably less than the cost of a replacement EV battery.
@chrishart85488 ай бұрын
@@rleermsomeone has to buy the car new for there to be second hand cars
@chrishart85488 ай бұрын
@@UnusSedLeo-w5linflation. Money printing, and covid lockdowns.
@chrisburn71788 ай бұрын
First sentence: "Big luxury SUVs are pointless, wasteful and dangerous personal vanity projects". There, fixed it. Thumbs up for these little cars 👍
@tudorg2225 күн бұрын
found the commie retard
@ivanjovanovic3628 ай бұрын
Holy sh*t that Dacia looks the best and is the best 😂
@costelgigi318 ай бұрын
Poor people cannot afford but the best of the best. 🤣
@Tom-sg4iv8 ай бұрын
@@costelgigi31I had cash for 40x top level Sandero's, but only got one. And I must say I'm very happy with the car. Amazing value for money.
@costelgigi318 ай бұрын
@@Tom-sg4iv No value is good value, no safety is best safety.
@Anonymous-sb9rr8 ай бұрын
It is the best, but I think the C3 looks a lot more stylish.
@doru109228 ай бұрын
That Toyota is the entry level? The Sandero top of the trim? At 15 000 still cheaper than Toyota
@russell57918 ай бұрын
So it's like comparing apples and pears. The Sandero is in a different class, it's a 5 seater, faster, has a boot that can be used. And its thousands cheaper. Yes if you are in the market for a small city car, then the Toyota is better and will depreciate less and probably outlive a sandero. Can't really compare the 2
@hughventer29348 ай бұрын
This has been one of the best videos from what car. So refreshing to review affordable cars, they don’t seem as scripted and look like they’re enjoying themselves.
@whatcar8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed.
@DavidJohnston588 ай бұрын
100%
@markwiles34858 ай бұрын
Dacia’s facelift for the Sandero removed the six speed gearbox, replacing it with a five speed. They also swapped Media Nav (with built-in satnav and wireless Apple CarPlay) with Media Display that has no satnav and requires a USB cable for CarPlay. The Sandero in the former top of the range Comfort specification of 2020/21/22 was much better value than the Expression of late 2022 onwards. £13245 on the road in May 2022 and great value then.
@ligametis8 ай бұрын
I don't think Sandero is really the best Dacia model to buy. New Duster is more expensive but looks like a way higher class car.
@alanmole72928 ай бұрын
My Wife’s 22 plate Sandero Stepway has six speeds, Apple car play, touch screen colour display with Satnav, climate control, cruise and speed limiter, everything you could want for £18000. It also goes like. sh1t off a shovel.
@sebastianstoica5788 ай бұрын
The Sandero still has the 6 speed gearbox in the Stepway version. And that varies depending on the market. In Romania you can get it with both 5 and 6 speed gearbox.
@Jehowy6668 ай бұрын
It's the other way around, the old, pre-facelift model had 5 speed gearbox, since ~november 21 all Sandero have 6-speed.
@sebastianstoica5788 ай бұрын
@@Jehowy666, they have reintroduced the 5 speed gearboxes on some models since a year or so ago.
@jansefran17528 ай бұрын
Dacia is the winner. Very good car. Much better than most of people thinks.
@olias27168 ай бұрын
two star crash rating......no thanks....
@jansefran17528 ай бұрын
@@olias2716 If you hawe no intentions to crash - than this is irellavant ... If you crash a lot - than - is necessery to hawe a car - strong / safe as TANK - VOLVO for example.
@marksouthwell44908 ай бұрын
@@olias2716for occupant safety they'd probably score 4 or 5 on the older system, they now scored on intelligent safety features IE lane departure warning etc. so for occupant and structural safety they're most likely a safe car
@UnusSedLeo-w5l8 ай бұрын
@@olias2716 Buying a car for the event that never happens. Or buying a car for daily pleasure and convenience?
@Twmpa8 ай бұрын
@@olias2716 These cars are marked down by the NCAP organisations nowadays because they do not have the electronic driver inteference and distraction (sorry, assistance) technologies such as lane departure warning.
@Anonymous-sb9rr8 ай бұрын
Pop out rear windows, like the Aygo has, are really good for ventilation. The wind pulls air out of the cabin through these windows when you're driving, without creating the turbulence that causes booming noises, like wind down windows do.
@runningawayvagabond58768 ай бұрын
Wish we could get the Dacia over on this side of the world but unfortunately I live in the land of single people thinking they NEED a 7 passenger SUV or some bro thinking he might get a trailer at some unspecified point in time in the future so gets a full size full cab pickup. The cheeky Sandero would be dead in the water as soon as it landed.
@684048 ай бұрын
I thought Dacia would vbe available in Ukraine. Or are you just a tourist?
@gingernutpreacher8 ай бұрын
@@68404are you picking a fight over zone one suporting ukraine?
@Don_Puparo8 ай бұрын
USA@@68404
@razvanipati8 ай бұрын
Buy a Lada Niva and shut up
@Johnny24rs8 ай бұрын
@@68404 I think he os from the US. It's obvious that Dacia is selling in UA, as Romania is it nighbour
@tiberiupopescu2388 ай бұрын
Sandero with LPG directly from Dacia, don't know if available in UK, is by far away the cheapest to drive and best overall budget car in this class.
@davidspencer72548 ай бұрын
LPG hard to find.
@saxon-mt5by8 ай бұрын
Agreed. I run a petrol/LPG car and haven't used LPG since 2019 - all the local filling stations have gone.@@davidspencer7254
@weetbix20838 ай бұрын
More useable space and airy interior, but they not very durable long term.
@LIONtib8 ай бұрын
@@weetbix2083Not durable? In Romania the vast majority of cars on the road are first and second gen Logans, Sanderos and Dusters. I've seen some with over 400k-500k kilometers that were still going strong despite the blatant lack of maintenance. Dacia is many things but unreliable is definitely not one of them.
@costelgigi318 ай бұрын
@@LIONtib Yeap, and most of you had 5 Dacia cars in the last 3 years. We know the mantra.🤣
@losch788 ай бұрын
I had the C3 as rental last summer, and was generally surprised that it felt quite a nice car. And I think it still looks sort of stylish quirky, probably the last cheap of these 3.
@runawayronnie8 ай бұрын
I also was given a C3 rental for the first time. Almost brand new in base trim ( Spain ). It's by far the worst car I've driven in a long time. What it did do however is get us from A to B without issue which is all I asked of it. Would never consider owning one tho.
@ianworley81698 ай бұрын
@@runawayronnieI was made up to get one on holiday. I could not agree more. An absolute porker to drive. The worst hire car I've ever had by a mile.
@DavidJohnston588 ай бұрын
We went with the Dacia, great little car, screen does all we want, has auto lights and wipers, sat nav and it's dual fuel. LPG we still have three garages in town with pump and it's 74.9 this week. Ironic that we bought it as a runaround and now use it for longer journeys. Only use our Citroen e-C4 as the runaround given the amount of problems and stress we had on road trips getting a vacant, working charger. Since swapping the cars around motoring has become a pleasure again.
@terryosborn8 ай бұрын
Am I dreaming? A new car test that is of affordable PETROL cars with not an EV in sight, well done guys.
@gsonz1728 ай бұрын
The Aygo X is a city car, people buy it because of its small size and good economy. If you want more space in the boot or better performance you buy a Yaris (which would fit better to this comparison anyways). Also don't forget that the Aygo has adaptive cruise control with lane keeping assist as standard, together with other stuff like high beam assist. The Aygo X should rather be compared to similar sized cars like Hyundai i10, Kia Picanto and Suzuki Ignis. This would make way more sense.
@adriang.c.29868 ай бұрын
agree, it is different class, the problem is the price of the yaris :)
@petrolpoodle8 ай бұрын
These comments really wind me up - typical viewers of KZbin that (to be fair just like I used to) have absolutely no idea how much time, effort and work goes into making these videos (8 hours of editing on top of half a day filming for a 15 to 20 min product and I'm a professional videographer) but get so SO personally hurt if _their_ favourite didn't win. For the record, the Dacia also seemed an easy win to me but they clearly made it an incredibly close call between the two, so who cares. Let's however appreciate that they went through every car in immense detail, properly laid out all the things you need to consider when buying one of these 3 and avoided attempting to be a knock off clone of the Top Gear trio. A brilliant format in my opinion, numbers properly researched and the final decision I can _understand_ but just don't agree with. Epic work guys, keep it up!
@siraff44618 ай бұрын
WOW. THANK YOU for including overall ownership costs. Hardly any review ever bothers and it winds me up no end when someone says "but this one's cheaper" based on its sticker price alone. This is a perfect example of why the Citroen is cheap so long as you can't count. Having to explain it to everyone who doesn't understand TCO gets old real quick so maybe if people follow your lead and include it in reviews it will be more well known. Excellent review too. The only thing I would like to have added would be a town/suburban section since school runs and commutes are these things' bread and butter. Thanks again.
@Goriaas8 ай бұрын
Depreciation is the biggest problem with TCO. That's why buying a car that is AT LEAST 3-4 years old is always better in terms of TCO
@siraff44618 ай бұрын
@@Goriaas Almost always. There are some which can be cheaper to own from new - such as ultra rare stuff which is worth more the day you get it than you paid when you order it. You also have to factor in wear and tear items, likelyhood of a breakdown and how much value you place on warranty cover. For instance I got a Transit minibus new in 2018. It has only needed front brakes so far and because of the way the market has gone its worth more now than I payed for it when it was new. On the other hand my Kuga plug-in is now three years old and has lost roughly £18k in that time meaning that even though the Kuga does 50-60mpg regularly and the bus around 25mpg, the Kuga has cost more to own and run.
@sergioleonardo88378 ай бұрын
It's amazing what people demand on cars these days. I looked around to trade my two oldies and tried both the Sandero and the C3 and honestly they where both decent but I really enjoyed driving the C3. it was more comfortable than the Dacia and I thought the interior looked better too. It seems the only thing going for the Toyota is the infotainment (God help us if someone has to drive somewhere and not have this huge TV screen to look at because they don't know where they are going...) . I'm a practical person and don't need that much tech to just drive around with my family or whatever gear i need to take.
@aantonic4 ай бұрын
I want to car wil al little as posibble of electronic,dont need that. Only need reliability
@shroomyesc8 ай бұрын
I immediately noticed in the Aygo the audio quality go down, there's a tinny echo in the car probably due to less sound insulation. Theoretically, the Aygo is in a class below the other two which would explain that but the price doesn't reflect it theoretically being an A-segment vehicle rather than B.
@bondjamesbond90418 ай бұрын
Not sure about finance rates but as an outright purchase a Suzuki Swift would be my choice. It has the reliability of the Toyota but is bigger inside and more practical.
@jdmguy448 ай бұрын
Agreed. I'd go for the Swift. Not much more expensive to buy than these three. Generous spec. Looks/drives very well and proven reliability. It's even built in Japan which you can't beat.
@mitchreeves18 ай бұрын
The Citroen's huge downfall that nobody mentions, is that although they've almost matched the Dacia Sandero on price, their finance rates are incredibly high. The C3 is 13.9% APR! The Dacia is 7.9%. That makes an enormous difference on monthly payments. The Dacia is still miles ahead of the pack in terms of value for money.
@whatcar8 ай бұрын
We do cover that at the end of the video! 11.9% APR for that version of the C3 at the time of filming.
@Mgoblagulkablong8 ай бұрын
Suzuki is miles ahead of Dacia. New Swift with ZERO % APR. New Swift is much better than Sandero.
@mitchreeves18 ай бұрын
@whatcar sorry, I do know that you mentioned it. I'm just saying that in general, few mention this. Bravo that you did! I currently have a 72 plate Dacia on 5.9%. I managed to bag that car in the nick of time! If I got the same car today it's £100pm more (my deposit was £2700).
@mitchreeves18 ай бұрын
@Mgoblagulkablong it's not 0%, it's currently 7.9%. The same as Dacia
@janvanhaaster20938 ай бұрын
Financing a car is a stupid way to get rid of your money. If you can pay XXX each month for a loan, you also could have saved it as you obviously don't need it. Cash is king, and if you don't have the money just buy a cheap 2ndhand car.
@evergreenalba8 ай бұрын
They're still too pricey for those who are earning less than £30k. The cost of living and stagnant wages are killing off the small car sector.
@philipchouliaras58795 ай бұрын
people that make less than 30k a year would NEVER be able to comfortable afford a new car anyway. What are you on about
@sarmadghafoor14844 ай бұрын
@@philipchouliaras5879 what do you suggest then?
@philipchouliaras58794 ай бұрын
@@sarmadghafoor1484 for under 30K a year? Get a 3-4K shitbox that does the job.
@michaelsteiner57758 ай бұрын
The Aygo may be the worst by comparing the obvious but if I had to choose one car for the next 300.000km or 20 years it's the only option. The others will struggle lasting as long like the Toyota. That's just the way it is and this is why they are so expensive.
@destroyedsoul17918 ай бұрын
Why would anyone want to keep that POS for 20 years
@carlosgilpinheiro75108 ай бұрын
In your dreams.
@tjadventures8 ай бұрын
My father in law has a lpg Dacia Sandero stepway. The car is pretty nice looking inside and out and the engine is quite peppy. Because it’s optimized for lpg it has 100hp. He did have a fair amount of weird electronic fault warnings in his 2-3 years of ownership but it seems to be holding up pretty good. Although I believe Toyota is still one of the best companies out there, I don’t think the comparison in your video is quite right. The aygo is, in my opinion, a class smaller than the other two, I believe the Yaris is in the same class as the sandero, but I I enjoyed the video and I like how you accounted for so many factors!
@RetroRoberino8 ай бұрын
I feel like the C3 has been done a bit dirty here. The C3 is meant to be a slushbox and a comfy, soft car. Does it not deliver on that? I hate hard seats and stiff suspensions unless I am in a sports car.
@darklightedy8 ай бұрын
A car that is ridiculously slow, with an unusable back seat, and the smallest luggage compartment was voted the best? I don't understand something.
@thomasp8188 ай бұрын
About the infotainment system. It's quite unfair to not take the screen for the Citroën while you take it for Sandero which obviously on the entry level of the Sandero you don't even have a screen.
@stepheng87798 ай бұрын
Buy an Aygo X if you've got no friends or family, are never going on holiday, doing a big shop or going to the tip, it's perfect 🎉 Dacia by a mile 👍
@geoffreyjohnson5438 ай бұрын
I have an Aygo X Pure. Usually only me or me and my spouse, so rear seat room and small boot is not a problem, and seats fold for trips to the tip. It beats the Dacia on fuel economy ( 78 mpg on a recent 500 mile round trip), has all the tech you need (auto lights, lane assist, rear camera, collision avoidance, adaptive cruise control, apple carplay etc), low insurance. If I needed a bigger car I would consider the Sandero, but for my circumstances the Aygo is great.
@urbanspaceman71838 ай бұрын
You have got to be kidding. Dacia by a country mile. You have just lost all credibility.
@philipchouliaras58795 ай бұрын
@wallycustard1281 all these cars are similar price. 1 more grand wont make your car better in construction
@serv274388 ай бұрын
Did you add the extra maintenance cost of the wet belt of the C3? Tis makes the C3 a bad purchase, on top of everything said
@jandoerlidoe34128 ай бұрын
I would choose the Sandero trough... ( I now have Dacia Logan MCV )
@jonathonedwards67418 ай бұрын
I spent a lot of time in an aygo X last year as my Suzuki Swift Sport was in for a lot of work (service leading to seized calipers leading to clutch going, leading to someone hitting it) things I can say is it has a playful chassis, fuel economy is good regardless of what I do with the accelerator, tech was basic (just how I like it, less distractions), but it was a noticeable difference in power. I joke that the swift is slow but this was another level.
@matejsojka66838 ай бұрын
did you calculate lpg runing costs in bifuel dacia?
@Twin.motors8 ай бұрын
Awsome comparison. MUCH better than carwow's rare 5mil supercar vs 3 mil supercar comparisons.
@WheelieMacBin6 ай бұрын
I have a 2023 Dacia Sandero Essential 90Tce, and it does everything I need it to do. I clock up quite a few miles on the motorway and the turbo makes a real difference to the experience. The other two cars in this test not having turbocharged engines would be a real deal breaker for me.
@brei218 ай бұрын
This straightforward review of the boot capacity was refreshing to see. It's helpful to have a standard reference point, like the cabin suitcases that everyone can relate to and use for comparison. This is much more useful than just a random number for boot capacity, especially when a 30-40L difference might not actually mean room for an extra bag due to the interior shapes
@DougHolmes8 ай бұрын
Surely getting a good second-hand car would be a better bet
@mitchreeves18 ай бұрын
Used car finance rates are insane. You may as well buy new if you want a newer vehicle.
@davidspencer72548 ай бұрын
You can always make that argument. But used cars have less warranty (whats covered degrades year on year) if any at all, you don't know the wear and tear and most importantly come with more expensive part replacement costs when stuff goes wrong.
@JohnnyMQB8 ай бұрын
@@davidspencer7254 depends who you know for getting things fixed
@JohnnyMQB8 ай бұрын
@@mitchreeves1 why finance just get a bank loan and pay them back instead.
@mitchreeves18 ай бұрын
@johnnycarruthers9737 even so, interest rates are still high. Most people find it much harder to get a bank loan than finance.
@poppyneese18118 ай бұрын
Dacia for me, dang you James May👊 I wish we could get the Dacia here in the States. The Citroen looks really good from the rear, a lil to much going on in the front. I know the Toyota would be the best, but being of Scottish Heritage I root against the leader always.
@delacaravanio8 ай бұрын
Below the parcel shelf?! What a load of bollocks. The Aygo fitted four cases. The parcel shelf was what prevented the boot closing, but because of some journalistic code, or whatever, these three refused to take it out. But the thing is, it’s a hatchback and the parcel shelf is designed to be taken out. It’s not a load bearing part. Motoring journalists shouldn’t set stupid rules like “below the parcel shelf” that not only don’t apply in the real world, but make no sense in terms of how the car is intended to be used by the manufacturer. These are cheap runarounds. If you’re going on holidays with your mates, aged 22 or whatever, you will just leave the parcel shelf at home and stuff the boot.
@giojohn98078 ай бұрын
Isn't the normal Toyota Aygo cheaper then the Aygo X (Cross) ? Or is the normal Aygo not available there ?
@sIightIybored8 ай бұрын
The latter.
@shroomyesc8 ай бұрын
There isn't a normal Aygo anymore after 2022, the Aygo X is the only Aygo left.
@giojohn98078 ай бұрын
@@shroomyesc Thanks
@JohnnyMQB8 ай бұрын
much cheaper this is just a jacked up shitbox that doesnt do anything better than a standard aygo
@stevensarson4826 ай бұрын
The AygoX with the Golding roof panel turns it into a modern 2CV. Despite all the shortcomings, those large narrow wheels give it a very good ride .
@duncands91728 ай бұрын
A sister of mine last summer and the summer before drove 600 miles in my mother's Volvo V70 2.5 diesel without any trouble. Year. 1997. I was recently at a bus stop and a fantastic 2008 Ford focus drove past me. Before that another fabulous looking drove past me. Year. 2000. Last summer I was at a classic car show and saw a Vw Polo. Year. 1990. A sister of mine has a 2008 Polo, and that means she could keep it for another 18 to 20 years. After seeing the Focus, I thought, search around for a really good 2010 Focus and keep it for another 10 or more years or the same with a V70. Now to an idea. Why don't the three of you buy a 2008 Polo, Focus, and V70 and take them on a 600 mile journey to see how they get on?
@detmer878 ай бұрын
Toyota shouldn't be on this list. Suzuki Swift would make more sense.
@RetroRoberino8 ай бұрын
Always nice to see some tests like this made for people like us who don't have an unlimited amount of cash flowing out their wazoo.
@vrku99798 ай бұрын
My winner is Dacia Sandero with LPG. I try Logan and its really comfy! Way better than my Skoda Rapid. It has turbo lag and slower response than TSI by VW but it runs on LPG so its really cheap. And stepway trim looks good.
@martinwood90148 ай бұрын
Got to be Sandero all day
@weetbix20838 ай бұрын
Long term ownership the C3 and Sandero are good for 100k miles where as the Aygo will be good for 200-250k miles.
@marksouthwell44908 ай бұрын
Are you thinking of the previous generation Aygos
@philipchouliaras58795 ай бұрын
source: trust me bro
@jamesgaskin77574 ай бұрын
The difference won't be anywhere near that under the same ownership Car costs more so is worth spending money on and less likely to be owned by someone who cannot maintain Ive owned 2 200k Renault's
@mikadavies6608 ай бұрын
For the money and excellent comfort, I would highly recommend the Citroën C4. I own a full electric E-C4 and I know that you can buy a 1 year old E-C4 for the cost of any of these. The massive plus on the E-C4 is the quality suspension and seating.
@chrishart85488 ай бұрын
You can get a vauxhall mokka E for even less loads for £11k could've believe it untill i looked .
@hunchanchoc84188 ай бұрын
Just don't try to make a journey to somewhere 200 miles away...
@mikadavies6608 ай бұрын
@hunchanchoc8418 Shame you didn't tell me that months ago....!! Every trip to my head office is over 200 miles... I drive like any other car... steady 80mph very early in the morning. Stop for a 20min top up and go! Arriving between 6:30 and 7am... So WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL.??? Are you going to say I can't make it?
@hunchanchoc84188 ай бұрын
@@mikadavies660 How much range do you have left when you reach the office? I presume the charger you use en-route is a fast-charger? And you are able to recharge while you're parked at the office? And as you state, you are driving in the dead of night, so charging stations at services are not likely to be busy. Great! For that journey all the stars are aligned and it works out just dandy!
@mikadavies6608 ай бұрын
@hunchanchoc8418 I'm in Construction. We always start early. I has around 20 to 30 miles left and my boss is a dinosaur. No chargers at the office. But one about 3 miles away.
@hoderharris8 ай бұрын
Brilliant comparison. As American who frequently travels to Europe for my job, i am always envious of the sub compact options you guys have vs what is sold in the States...
@LIONtib8 ай бұрын
Why? At least you guys have the roads to accommodate huge 7 seaters and pick ups, even if you don't really need all that space.
@jamesgaskin77574 ай бұрын
You got the mk2 ford focus which beats all other small cars
@dutchhondarebel8 ай бұрын
For that amount of money, a decent used car. Plenty of significantly more comfy used cars.
@khalidacosta71338 ай бұрын
Shhhh if everyone did that, you wouldn't have a used car that is cheap to buy.... Don't buy a used car and definitely never buy a budget new car. Get a nice car that is fully loaded!
@lowfeelsblvd8 ай бұрын
I cannot fathom why anyone would buy that Aygo X. My 21-plate Mazda 3 was less than that and has heated seats, a sunroof, a slick gearbox, 186hp and has the refinement and ride of a golf!
@JohnnyMQB8 ай бұрын
exactly but they must have a brand new car as it comes with warranty and usually free servicing they'll also probably pcp it then give it back after 3 year at half the value for someone like myself to swoop in on a nice wee bargain for the next 10 years idiots.
@stphnwheeler8 ай бұрын
All my previous Citroens, including a C4 have been notoriously unreliable. Poor electronics and unreliable engines. Coincidentally, after giving up on Citroens, I leased an Aygo while waiting for my new car to be delivered, and even though it was a tiny car with a minute 1.0 petrol engine, I was immediately struck by its superior quality compared to any Citroen I ever had. I will never buy another Citroen after my experiences with them. I agree that the Aygo X is the best choice here but the Dacia seems a decent proposition too.
@BSquare19898 ай бұрын
If they were all unreliable, why did you stick with citroen?
@stphnwheeler8 ай бұрын
@@BSquare1989 I liked the the fact that they were quirky, and different to the German offerings. They were also cheap, new. I also expected that with each new model, old problems would be ironed out resulting in improved reliability. After the warranty expires, repair costs proved inhibitive. I also guess that I was loyal to a car brand but I would never take another Citroen, even if one was handed to me free.
@RobertPerry-e4r8 ай бұрын
Not my experience I have had the previous version C4, and a current shape C3 with zero problems, its a shame that the customer experience varies as they should be good cars, if you go to France they are everywhere.
@stphnwheeler8 ай бұрын
@@RobertPerry-e4r It's great that you've had good experiences with Citroen's, a complete contrast with mine - Gasket on a brand new Citroen blown few days after purchase, leaky engines C4 engines, leaks into footwell, windows scratched by seals, cruise control frequently failing on motorway (depollution warning light was linked to this), intermittent heavy steering, tailgate kept permanently locked by poor electronics... and in spite of all these problems, last year, I even considered buying a new DS4 - basically, a rebranded Citroen, but when I opened the bonnet and saw that it was more or less mechanically identical to the C4, I went to a completely different car brand. I guess that the French are loyal to French Car Brands... in 2023, the top 3 selling cars were: 1) Renault 2) Peugeot 3) Citroen Similarly, the Germans are loyal to German Brands... in 2023, the top selling brands were... 1)Volkswagen 2) Mercedes 3) Audi 4) BMW Even in Romania, the Dacia was the number one car brand (originally Romanian, now part of the Renault Group). To me, brand loyally to Citroen has proved extremely costly but I hope your experience with Citroens remains good.
@carlosgilpinheiro75108 ай бұрын
How can you have superior quality in an Aygo than in a C4? What quality are you talking about? That Aygo in a same level of a C1... Comparing this with a C4 is what makes your opinion not reliable. What other models did you have how can you explain the quantity of 1gen C4 with 20 years? Sometimes the cause of many problems are the mechanics that assist the cars. Yes a lot of them don't have the knowledge or the scanners to diagnose the multiplex electronics and what can be correct easily they turn a nightmare.
@johnlightbody99428 ай бұрын
Bought C3 brand new 2018...thought was xlnt purchase... First MOT, new front discs required, year later with barely 40k mileage two strut top mounts required, but worse, red roof now has dozens of white spots, advised is lacquer separating from paint, Citroen won't cover... £1500 to respray... Now regret ever choosing Citroen....
@philipscott11288 ай бұрын
Just wait until the oil immersed, wet timing belt disintegrates. That will be the icing on the cake!
@Dante12828 ай бұрын
@@philipscott1128 Yes it will but it wont be much of an issues if you cheap out on mainentance just cause its a cheap car. The biggest enemy of any engine is a lack of mainentance. A wetbelt just accelarates the process if you dont take care of the engine/car.
@thomasp8188 ай бұрын
It's not really Citroën but stellantis. Even Peugeot has this puretech bad motor. But they made a new puretech for the next c3 with a timing chain instead of timing belt and d'ajustement to upgrade the fiability.
@JVerschueren8 ай бұрын
13:15 Dacia hack: use a ziptie to make a loop at the passenger side winshield air vent and run your USB chord through there to keep it out of the way. A friend of mine does that in her... oh, what are they called again now.... Dokker! This trick can be applied in other cars as well, of course, as long as you refer to it properly.
@pixie7068 ай бұрын
As a mere female I've never ever taken any notice of interior decor . performance and comfort are priorities in car selection.
@HugoParedes8 ай бұрын
I’m curious, what do you prioritise? Price?
@pixie7068 ай бұрын
@@HugoParedes read my comment
@franciscovaz93788 ай бұрын
If you have only on car and a family of 4 how does it be possible to go for the toyota? The toyota is cheap to run? Put in side by side with the dacia lpg and compare it....
@augustinmarginean8 ай бұрын
Agreed somewhat with the verdict, however, the elephant in the room is the fact Toyota is so damn slow and gutless. On long term that will definitely be frustrating for the owner. The small turbo engine's can be so fun to daily drive because of the mid range punch. For me that will make the difference.
@hunchanchoc84188 ай бұрын
The real elephant in the room is that the Toyota is near-enough a 2 seater with negligible boot space! Might as well have an MG Midget.
@tdv1238 ай бұрын
most small cars are either used for young starting family's with babys.. dit you try to get a maxicosy in the backseat and a children's carriage in the trunk? or young people who will go on a adventure and camping, and than again the trunk counts, right?
@tomazikov8 ай бұрын
Well while I like all three I will stick to mine which is a preface lifted Sandero but if I bought it today I would have the one that you drove with expression trim with auto AC which costs just below 16 grand in our country and I am very happy and satisfied with mine
@joaomoreira60448 ай бұрын
Drove one of those C3 last September on holidays. It was brand new and had an incredible vertical gap on the steering wheel. So big I thought the lock of the height adjustment wasn't secure. It was, just a terrible quality control! The steering wheel moved up during harder brakes when I made a little bit more force on it.
@darrenbodfish45918 ай бұрын
The Toyota will hold its value the best when you come to sell it. Plus, the fuel economy & reliability all point to Toyota.
@eliotdeag80408 ай бұрын
Yes, Toyotas 10 year and 100000 mile warranty is worth it if you get it serviced at a main dealer once a year. NB our one year old Yaris Cross hybrid is averaging 64mpg after 10000 miles. We got that after watching Doug's review (and others). More affordable car reviews and please include NCAP scores as having recently experienced an accident in another car they are relevant!
@wizzyno15668 ай бұрын
Dacias hold value ridiculously well.
@darrenbodfish45918 ай бұрын
@@wizzyno1566 given the choice Toyota for me.
@wizzyno15668 ай бұрын
@@darrenbodfish4591each to his own...😊
@williamegler87718 ай бұрын
@@wizzyno1566That may be but they can't match the reliability/durability of a Toyota.
@Ummo28508 ай бұрын
Very important information I find is headlight comparison in night driving. Maybe this could be evaluated v Because even some premium vehicles have shocking headlights and quite dangerous with or for night driving.
@hunchanchoc84188 ай бұрын
The DANGER is from being blinded by oncoming cars with stupid modern headlights.
@NajCharfeddine8 ай бұрын
I choose AygoX, C3 with 1.2 puretech engine is zero reliability and Dacia Sandero less comfortable than both
@jamesgaskin77574 ай бұрын
Price of Aygo pays for a second engine in the Citroen
@trywizardo2 ай бұрын
Anyone have experience with the C3? Thinking about buying one myself, the 2017 one Is it good? Does it have issues after some while?
@dennythescar80s88 ай бұрын
Can't beat Dacia Sandero, also has a great engine, some of the Mercedes use a engine like that.
@costelgigi318 ай бұрын
and Porsche too. 🤣
@tubybubi8 ай бұрын
@@costelgigi31 There's lots of Mercedes with Renault engines on the road. A-Class, B-Class and the small transporters. Those engines also go into Dacia but with electronically limited power so the last longer actually. I always called my old Logan MVC2 "Romanian Porsche" so you are at lest right with that statement. ;)
@costelgigi318 ай бұрын
@@tubybubi Yes, Renault engine on a junk car, quite Porsche.
@tomgallagher49493 ай бұрын
Swayed by comparing top spec cars against the basic Citroen. Yes, leather steering wheels feel nicer but you're not supposed to be conned by the car manufacturers buttering you up. I've just ordered a new C3. £13,000. Try recouping that difference from your £19,000 Toyota with low depreciation. And size wise, the Aygo is in the old C1 class.
@AlrighterBabber8 ай бұрын
I have the Stepway, and you mention the phone holder around 13:20, saying the cable gets in the way due to the positioning of the USB socket. I have a short 20cm USB cable, and it's perfectly positioned for the phone placement. Just get a smaller cable, problem solved.
@vladutumircea60728 ай бұрын
Thank's guys! That's a realistic report; otherwise everyone choose his car on budget and preferences... For me Dacia will be the right choice.
@thomash28068 ай бұрын
Renault dynamics do the Dacia a lot of good. And it’s the biggest, quickest and most comfortable. No real contest. (I haven’t watched to the end yet.) Unfortunately there are so many much better second hand cars on sale for £14,000. My daily is a €2000 S-Class. That leaves £12,000 for running costs…
@lise12558 ай бұрын
It's also the most faulty car of all , according to German ADAC statistics.
@adrienmeesemaecker20542 ай бұрын
You should test noise decibels inside at different speed levels. Do you plan to compare them with suzuki ignis ?
@peter.russell8 ай бұрын
Nice one. Well done, getting there and very interesting to watch so thank you :-)
@stillshakin212511 күн бұрын
My c3 non turbo gets 53-55mpg no problem with mixed driving, near to 60 on motorway if your light on the power pedal. The seats in the higher spec models are really comfortable, must be different inside somehow.
@ferjscor8 ай бұрын
Great video . Not everyone is rich and have money for Audi RS 7....
@vinnyanthony238 ай бұрын
I bought our 17 plate C3 in 2018 and since then it hasn't cost us a thing bar normal maintenance. Been a brilliant little runaround car.
@carl87908 ай бұрын
The Sandero is my choice. If the Aygo wasn't so cramped and sluggish, I wouldn't have mind paying its current asking price.
@philipsutton56528 ай бұрын
Was not expecting to see my hometown of 30 years when the video popped up.
@anthonypagano63848 ай бұрын
Where is the Suzuki Ignis and Hyundai i10 and Kia Picanto
@MaxJames597yompfitness8 ай бұрын
scrap yard
@weetbix20838 ай бұрын
@@MaxJames597yompfitness The Ignis will long time outlive the C3 and Sandero
@MaxJames597yompfitness8 ай бұрын
will it feck utter scrap @@weetbix2083
@slumpika8 ай бұрын
Or the Fiat Tipo.
@khalidacosta71338 ай бұрын
@@weetbix2083 No it won't. You'll have stuffed it into a wall because you hated it.
@user-hf7jp2lt5x8 ай бұрын
Worth checking if any have wet cam belts. A couple of these in the life of the car will add thousands to the running costs.
@goga.games188 ай бұрын
I would love to own aygo x Perfect for city and will last 20 years no problem since its Toyota But sadly its too slow i wish engine was at least 1.3
@khalidacosta71338 ай бұрын
It'll rust out after 8 years...
@carlosgilpinheiro75108 ай бұрын
Maybe people need to realise that not all Toyota are reliable and will not last more than the others. And maybe when we need to make a bigger repair the costs of Japanese components from Denso will be a lot expensive that ones from Bosch or Valeo.
@GeorgeJarrett18 ай бұрын
Hang on. The Higher Spec Citroens have a 110 Turbo Petrol in Manual, and an Auto that would blow the other 2 away and a leather streeing wheel. I agree those plastic ones are vile. You can also get a Reverse Camera, Built in Connected Nav and parking sensors. You can also get the armresm like the Dacia on the drivers seat😊
@callumC948 ай бұрын
Yeah, I feel they did the Citroen dirty here by testing entry level vs highest spec of the other 2 cars... I personnally have a mid spec because it was the cheapest car I could finance (in France) and the only things I don't like about it are fuel economy for city driving (110 turbo petron) and the steering wheel.
@paulfinnan34568 ай бұрын
Thanks guys - great journalism - even better by the fact that no electric cars!
@gugugh108 ай бұрын
I'm really glad that you did this comparative test! Very good!!! I was undecided in choosing between Dacia and Citroen! Thank you! And to more clips and presentations of budget cars!
@velouris768 ай бұрын
There’s a somewhat case of bad timing of an ad break here… 07:06 “Will, touch that knob” then goes into ad break… 😂😂😂😂😂
@sketchmoon33338 ай бұрын
you should've tested the base model CLIO with the 1.0 tce with/without LPG
@adrianvanheems80418 ай бұрын
Beware! The C3 has a wet cambelt, big expense when it has to be replaced.
@khalidacosta71338 ай бұрын
I just did mine at 100k... it was £350. About normal to what a cambelt costs now.
@RobertPerry-e4r8 ай бұрын
Main dealers will do it for £500, recommended interval is 6 years but most people seem to go to 8 for some reason, all cambelt cars need changing at some point. Have been told by specialists that you must only use the PSA kit.
@comicmania20088 ай бұрын
Hi, very nice road test / comparison, I liked the look of each of the 3 cars. But, I'm 18 months into my Aygo X (Edge) ownership. Took out the PCP deal, paying £168 /month. Loving the Toyota experience, I'm oldish, at 64, retired, so speed is not a worry for me, and neither is the rear passenger room or tiny boot-space. I've been averaging at least 58 mpg in rural Lincolnshire, and even had 68 mpg on nice days, but get about 48 mpg around town. Love the trim level, the infotainment screen is great, the general driving position and nice feel to the car, the engine is chunky, reliable, starts well, not had any breakdowns or factory recalls. The car also boasts lane assist, active cruise control and loads of other stuff that your review never covered. When my deal comes to an end in 2 years, I was going to trade up to a Yaris X hybrid which I test drove when I took mine for the 1st service, but if they turbocharge the newer model Aygo X, I'm likely to have another Aygo X. A turbo giving it another - say 15-20 BHP would make an enormous difference for the better on hills and motorways, hope you are reading this Toyota! Toyota are very nice to deal with, they looked after me very well.
@sebastiandros19118 ай бұрын
I recently rented a Sandero Stepway automatic for a week and liked it, it is a good car.
@costelgigi318 ай бұрын
for one week it is reliable enough. 🤣
@sebastiandros19118 ай бұрын
@@costelgigi3135k on board, it wasn't brand new. Only time will tell how reliable they are, but I don't see why not.
@philipchouliaras58795 ай бұрын
@@costelgigi31 since when is renault not reliable
@costelgigi315 ай бұрын
@@philipchouliaras5879 Dacia is the cheap version of Renault, which is a cheap company in itself. In case you look for a cheap product for an average price, Dacia is for you, Renault is a cheap product for a higher price. Both of them have no reliability. 🤣
@philipchouliaras58795 ай бұрын
@@costelgigi31 Renault is currently the most expensive mid range Hybrid supermini LMAO. It is also considered the BEST supermini hybrid below 30K. Get a grip
@ijoseluis8 ай бұрын
It's on the slower depreciation that the Toyota's longer guarantee works. The difference to the Sandero in overall value isn't probably significant, excepting for those who really don't need space and privilege driving quality. To have kids or not, that is the question. I liked your video. Honesty is the best policy.
@jhonnypusong69068 ай бұрын
Aygo is the best Reliability Economy Proven ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@marksouthwell44908 ай бұрын
Suzuki ignis much better buy, plus has excellent reliability, excellent economy , better price
@mattw83327 ай бұрын
Used to buy What Car? magazine back in the late 1980s. Back then the budget car road tests used to feature the FSO Polonez, Lada Riva, Skoda Estelle, Yugo 45a and the Citroen 2CV6. For a little more decadence there would be a Hyundai Pony. List prices of those would be around the £3,500 - 5,000 mark.
@GrahamGroovyUK7 ай бұрын
Then in 1989 the £5995 Proton GL saloon arrived. Not much of a looker but so reliable and easy to drive. We need cars like this again. For the Sandero to go from £6k before C-Vid to £14k is crazy. A pre reg Clio is cheaper.