WHAT'S THE BEST DRIVER'S CAR? AUTOCAR'S 2021 HOT HATCH SHOOTOUT!

[@guyrussell69]

Ah, the famous caterham hot hatch..

[@MrBarneyboy1234]

Not like the Toyota Yaris GR roadster? 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

[@martinschofield5465]

🤣

[@PlanetautoUK]

@@MrBarneyboy1234 or FK8

[@MrBarneyboy1234]

@@PlanetautoUK convertible? 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

[@PlanetautoUK]

@@MrBarneyboy1234 😵‍💫😆

[@longtailgt]

My outright favourite here is the Golf R, but considering they cost more than 40K with options, the i20N is the moral victor. Looks good, drives great and has a manual! That's the kind of 'hot hatch' you'd want to daily.

[@5amH45lam]

The i20N is making waves. I like it!

[@boomdaus]

It also get the best finance value currently in the UK for hot hatches (other than the gr yaris if you want to wait for a 2023 allocation)

[@15xNightWalkeR]

When you start comparing FWD to Four wheel drive and RWD cars to each other as in a “same class” for handling driving and other features, its becomes annoying to watch

[@zakelwe]

Drivers car not handling. They have another shootout for handling.

[@HRHTim1]

Analogy of the the Puma ST was brilliant!! "A Fiesta ST that's had a few pints"

[@jwazftw4200]

Audio - buy another lapel microphone.

[@djmandrick]

Strange comparison with so many levels of apples to oranges. Almost every car was a different use case and price? Reviews a fat Fiesta ST, then verbally talked about the Fiesta ST throughout the whole i20 section as being it's direct competitor yet no sign of a Fiesta. As a viewer, that's odd.

[@NH-bz9jv]

I’ve owned a Golf R, driven a Fiesta ST that I had for 2 months, and test drove the i20N yesterday. The i20N is the best all round without a doubt. I placed my order there and then, cannot wait🤘

[@50dent11]

Hows it treating you? I pick mine up Sun!

[@NH-bz9jv]

@@50dent11 i rejected it after 3 months, engine blew up…… known problem. I’d steer well clear if I was you. Sorry🤷🏼‍♂️

[@50dent11]

@@NH-bz9jv oh no😂😂😂

[@NH-bz9jv]

@@50dent11 yep, never again.

[@helmetculture]

​@@NH-bz9jv What happened to your i20N engine?!

[@davidhayes4814]

Good video but only the I20N at £25K is ‘affordable’. Even the Puma is £30K plus.

[@colinw1591]

I20n looks like a cracking little hatch, and blessed with a manual gearbox too. If I couldn't afford the extra £9k for a Yaris (if you can get hold of one), looks like a great choice to me.....

[@mitchybenny]

At the moment it’s not 9k more. People are paying nearly 40k for a GR

[@colinw1591]

@@mitchybenny yep, and already seen the Hyundai with £2k discount.....

[@mitchybenny]

@@colinw1591 you can get it for £22k technically, all be it PCP so obviously it’s more in the end. Cash it’s £23,600

[@NikosKalantasTouKabourdirhTouK]

I can understand the word "affordable" for i20N and puma, however golf r is nowhere close to the meaning of this word. Also, you compare golf r vs 128ti and i20N, I mean... A 100 horse power difference doesn't make sense in a car comparison, especially vs awd and fwd. Also, there is no type r, even though it's not affordable. Bad title choice I guess

[@アマ-p2l]

@Andrew yeah he's just saying this video seems a bit detached from reality. that disgusting 1 series Bmw starts at 44k€ in my country, that's not affordable at all. The i20N costs "only" 25k, that's what you would actually call affordable. Mid-class citizens don't want to spend 44k on a useless ugly small hatchback. Looking at the cars I instantly knew which one had won, fast forward, was right, checking out now. You might be right that this is a reasonable comparsion, but in that case my domestic (German) brands showed up with a knife to a battleship fight.

[@Rascularvideos]

I think the headline cost figures are a bit misleading when most buy on finance and BMW/Volkswagen group are very good at those deals.

[@jasond626]

Oh dear couldn't watch more of it.. What monotone (especially Mr prior).. And there older Middle aged guys.. I'm 48..you guys know a lot but no passion and interesting to listen to and watch.. Come on guys get some personality in it. Especially a hot hatch video.

[@DreamCarGarage1]

@27.50 come on guys get the accounts department to dip into petty cash for another mic. You are 'Autocar' after all.

[@SChapps]

Came here for the i20N, and was not disappointed. I want to get a test drive in one as soon as possible

[@dylanthedyslexicvillain4294]

I went to try and find a 120N to test drive unfortunately I couldn’t so I bought one the first time I’ve ever bought a car without a test drive , 3 1/2 months waiting list though it’s going to be a long few months, but I am so pleased I bought one and to be honest I think the resale value will be great especially as they are stopping production of petrol cars in the UK quite soon Hot hatches will be sought after items

[@SimoBenziane]

​@@dylanthedyslexicvillain4294How is it? can you review it for us quickly here?

[@callummarch3970]

Got one. Lovely car

[@albertkang1052]

The N is for sure my Next car. Pretty N-thuastic about it!

[@antslim168]

Cupra for power outputs and handling but I'll take the I20N for best allrounder.

[@kramnam4716]

I used to run a 1700 cross flow on Webber’s.. they’ve got the sound similar.. but 40£k??? That’s taking the piss.. if it was 20k then perhaps..ps good film! Good reviews!

[@964tractorboy]

The Golf R starts at just over £40k which I think stretches the limits of "affordable"; in my eyes at least and it's not even available as a manual as far as I can tell. Others may argue that anything is affordable on PCP...

[@CJONE764]

Wait how come the Yaris GR4 wasn't here?

[@iBlogGadget]

It was in the 2020 comparison. This one is for 2021 cars only.

[@CJONE764]

@@iBlogGadget ahh fair play. It seemed like a glaring omission.

[@MrBarneyboy1234]

@@iBlogGadget but the caterham came out in 2020? 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

[@neilbenton1152]

Can't believe no gr yaris! WtF

[@jamiefisher1430]

@@CJONE764 I'm surprised that the GR 86 wasn't on this Autocar shootout. The GR 86 had its only UK debut at the Goodwood festival of Speed but no where else. All the journalists from Japan and USA have done their videos, so what's going on with Toyota UK?

[@mrnicktoyou]

I skipped the “Pooma” segment. I don’t care what the verdict on it is, not interested.

[@TheCarLovingSwede]

Terrible sound mixing. One voice is much higher than the other one

[@patrickbateman7122]

Can't believe these guys get paid to do this!! Just awful car reviewing and i know i'm not the only one who thinks this about these two Autocar!!!

[@James-RJM]

😂😂 Did you see the "can you drift a GR Yaris " video?!!!! WTF🤣😂 That looked like it was a spoof video, but it wasn't lol..... Enough said😉🥱🤭 And, NO, Matt Watson isn't any good either, except for people too young to drive, hence his ridiculously high viewings...... Henry Catchpole is a decent reviewer, amongst a few others from big magazines and a few independent bods

[@James-RJM]

Ironing socks, springs to mind 😜

[@Rascularvideos]

I completely disagree with you. I rate both their opinions and have done for a long time.

[@patrickbateman7122]

@@Rascularvideos fair enough..

[@j66gah]

Had an i20N for over a year 10,000 miles later it still puts a smile on my face It reminds me of the Cleo 172 sport I had 20 years ago

[@Kingdonnerkebab]

Love the I20n, would definately replace my 208Gti with one.

[@waynephatg]

That's exactly what I've done

[@Rascularvideos]

I’m intrigued what it’s like compared to my 182 Trophy.

[@mc1996]

@@Rascularvideos I would keep the 182 all day is age/wear and fuel economy wasn't a question. The N will be much easier to gain some power though...

[@n8rey]

How's the 208GTi holding up?

[@strabo1]

i20 maybe the ugliest car out there

[@nicklasselsmark886]

I get my i20 N tomorrow!!! 😍

[@jamescollins408]

If the i20N is the best affordable drivers car why is it rated 2nd to the Fiesta ST in your road test this week?

[@jamesoc22]

Golf R..affordable I hear you say?

[@shaunsimpson3499]

I fell to sleep about halfway, who won?

[@raymondchadwick3577]

they really dont have much in the way of personalities, do they! I think Mat Watson can sleep easy

[@lensoprezole5322]

Caterham means ugliness in case you didn't know

[@husseinosman8017]

Quite possibly the least inspiring car line up since the concept of car line ups was envisaged.

[@hsvcommodore4111]

Agreed. The gr yaris is a must for this list

[@HRHTim1]

@@hsvcommodore4111 True but it's real world affordable cars

[@Mexxx65]

@@hsvcommodore4111 GR Yaris is just to nervous and unstable at speed, to be even considered an occasional track day car. Let alone on a tough B road!! Sure it's kinda impressive on a bit of dirt road or slippery surface, where you don't even rev 3rd gear all the way out.

[@toast2823]

@mac sixtyfive except that the Yaris is not twitchy or unstable at speed it is perfectly set up to crush a twisty b-road at speed and with confidence. It’s certainly more suited to road than track… It’s also far cheaper than the golf r and should be on this list. As should the Civic Type R.

[@kaigordon2900]

@@HRHTim1 gr yaris is priced within this group though

[@madant7777]

Forgot to say that the Cupra Leon is bigger than the Golf R. BTW hate those touch controls.

[@mr_glasgow84]

Love my i20 N - first one in Scotland and even after my Type R, I’m still smiling!

[@relentlesspursuit6894]

Currently CTR miles better than an I20

[@dylanthedyslexicvillain4294]

I’m hoping when I get mine it’ll be the first one in Leeds lol

[@beefwantko7269]

i feel like the 1000's of car reporters.. or top gear rip offs or what ever... have completely lost touch with what a normal person is driving around every day... I feel like all of those cars are HOT Hatches.. we are talking above 330 HP in all of them.... most of these with all wheel drive would probably beat an Aventador in a 0-60 or 1/4.. or at least come close, and they are saying they are just MEH... there is a saying.. never take advice from an expert because they have experienced so much they can not give an actually objective commentary on what they are an expert in

[@MOSSFEEN]

This TEST is like Watching PAINT DRY

[@kubek555]

comparing Golf R with i20N..what are you guys smoking?!

[@stevewalsh-balshaw1727]

Most way out of reach for workers on 15k to 20k a year unfortunately so called drivers car's have all but dissapeard will soon be none existent if govt has its way certainly for normal folk they will be preserved for the rich

[@NuggetMaate]

Is the i20n better than the i30n for the price difference. Would be an interesting comparison back to back. Whether or not it is justifiable.

[@hpman911]

Strange you didn’t mention costs at all in your summing up. The i20 N is phenomenal value compared to the Golf R and perhaps this should be a factor in your choice!

[@stevegee6529]

Not sure about autocar anymore. Always seem to find to many faults or downsides to the cars they drive. Im guessing all the hyper cars they drive must make hot hatches seem dull to them.

[@mgr1633]

If I didn't have a GR Yaris, I would be straight to Hyundai for the I20N.

[@Birmingham_racing]

No Megane or civic type r?

[@onemorelap]

Sorry guys, I usually love your videos, opinions and reviews, but this is a properly bad video. 1. Caterham in a hot hatch competition? Rubbish. 2. 2:34 - Some shots have really bad image stabilization, this is one of them. 3. 3:00 - "proper dials" - just because it's a base spec - you can also have it with a full digital speedometer 4. 7:00 - Press department should not provide you guys with such a poorly specced car(s). Golf 8 R is miles ahead as soon as you spec it with the Akrapovic exhaust, the performance pack with Nürburgring mode and more. 5. 9:08 - Comparing it to the GTI which isn't on the test? GTI does not try to be the "hard-hardcore hot hatch", this is just crap. 6. 15:20 - Yes, the same engine but it would be interesting to know that the Puma has 236 lb-ft vs. 214lb ft in the Fiesta. 7. 16:54 - "It wants to be driven hard" = It is an exciting thing? It is. The rotating back is (as mentioned), is awesome, none of the mentioned VAG / BMW cars is agile like that. Ford put quite an aggressive chassis in a crossover and he is still not amused, while he criticized the cars before for trying to be too hardcore? The sound is exciting inside and outside, there is not just "a growl" inside but it also sounds sporty outside. You can hear the turbo really nicely which is again very exciting. The others Golf without Akra, Leon, 128ti are super muted outside. 8. 18:52 - James' audio is really bad 9. 19:35 - "Feels more like a Golf GTI?" No it clearly does not. The torque converter auto (vs. DSG), the grown-up interior, the steering feel (he even mentioned that) the engine and the well-rounded passive dampers make that car way more grown-up than the GTI. Maybe it's more GTI than it's predecessors with RWD, but he does not mention that point. 10. 20:56 - Great to see them having a bit of a laugh, that's what the show should've been like. 11. 24:15 - "The rear is trying to overtake you" - This is a the most fun feature on the Fiesta / Puma ST and again James is criticizing that point. I'm not sure that this editor is the perfect choice for a hot hatch shootout. 12. "Britain's best affordable driver's car" - I thought the video was about Hot Hatches? The Golf is with 40k+ not really "affordable" anymore

[@gpajic1987]

No GR, no Type R?

[@nathanb2100]

Both of those hatches were in last year's test

[@Ch28Kid]

I guess MINI is no longer consider a hot hatch.

[@Hugh.G.Rection.]

It’s not considered affordable

[@neilwhiteside949]

Pity you cannot afford 2 microphones!

[@87sandyD]

M8, i had to turn up the volume to know what they’re actually talking about and almost felt out of my bed when i got a youtube ad.

[@Night_Diver81]

An i20n compared to a Golf R.... Apples and oranges... And what about the new Toyota GR86? What about a golf GTI clubsport ... Certainly thats more driver focused than a Golf R.... And no Toyota GR yaris?

[@lehlohonolo.aubreymthimkhu3663]

Its just crap thats what it is. Auto car has lost it.. Seriously. No type R, no meghane RS.... Wow i just wasted 28 minutes

[@johnnnyutahq]

autocar going from bad to worst

[@Chaundb]

What a terrible auto review and terrible way to compare cars which clearly not in the same class.

[@dammyo6010]

That Cupra is a good looking thing

[@michastalmach3328]

Do you prefer I20N before I30N for the city driving? Please consider than I30N offer DCT Clutch which will be useful in traffic jams.

[@dylanthedyslexicvillain4294]

The I 20N is the car for me, good job seeing as I’ve just bought one hopefully I will get it at the end of this month after three long months cracking little car

[@Maxi86inAction]

How is it?

[@dylanthedyslexicvillain4294]

@@Maxi86inAction It’s a great car really really fast and its fun to drive and sounds Really really good KZbin doesn’t give it justice and it can be quite economical if driven sensibly I would definitely recommend it

[@MrWilliam.Stewart]

And the winner is... Suzuki Swift Sport.

[@Liisjak]

You can buy nearly 2 i20ns for the cost of 1 golf R lol

[@mrstudio5389]

yes sure put a puma st for a drivers car but not a megane rs :D

[@lehlohonolo.aubreymthimkhu3663]

Hmm... I love the back hand shots(hate) thats thrown out to the king of hot hatches gti/Golf R. Its disrespectful and just as odd to compare a golf R to a i20n or even the 128... And oh yes don't get me started on the katherham hot hatch. Because of the Golf R and Focus RS performance cars elevated so much and all you do is say how not dialed in it is and how its not fun in every review... Not gonna mention you comparing front wheel drive to all wheel drive, and even got that scaffolding.. Than theres comparing the prices/class which still don't make sense Long story short, just unsubscribed cause you're comparing the wtomg cars and you don't even appreciate them for their intended purpose or what they are. Really crap review of this cars on comparison to eatch other, what they are and what a real enthusiast would want to make their ideal fun everyday hot hatch. If thats what this review was about. Disappointed auto car

[@philc8714]

Have a pot noodle and a lie down old boy

[@davidwales9657]

that Puma ST is profoundly ugly

[@superthierry1]

If I was looking for a drivers car the Ford Puma wouldn’t be on the list…but the Hyundai looks like a bundle of fun..🥳😎

[@andyhunt457]

It's a drivers car for those who have to have the extra boot space and/or the extra ride height to be able to get in and out of.The Kona N will suffer from the same issues as the Puma as well as the benefits.

[@lilpinns4062]

Hyundai, should make a i10N in competition with the vw up gti

[@oxcart4172]

I've got an I20 and I haven't seen another one yet!

[@Jo3yPropane]

My I20N is due October and I cannot wait. Spent a long time shortlisting options and nothing matched it for bang for buck. Kona N looking like it could be a genuine crossover king, too - I30N power in a jacked up I20N body, madness!

[@Tribulation88]

My i20N is due by the beginning of November, ordered it on the 13th of August and the dealer gave me no indication other than up to 12 weeks. It's radio silence and it's really great to see all these reviews calling it the next best thing, but at the same time it's killing me not being able to drive it yet. I've got no idea how long I'll have to wait, it's radio silence from my dealer so far. Gotta be patient I guess. I got mine for £22k fully spec'd, how'd you do in battle against your dealer?

[@Jo3yPropane]

@@Tribulation88 Yeah, chased my order up this week (placed 4th August, so almost a month ago) and was basically told the same thing - "no update yet, car still in the factory most likely". I'm just glad this is a really busy time of year, so at least it'll go quick haha. I think mine works out just over £22.5k with perf blue paint and Bose, so not far off :D

[@Tribulation88]

​@@Jo3yPropane Really annoying, it's likely due in part to the chip shortage too. Hopefully the dealers can get some better tracking from Hyundai, I'd feel a lot better knowing what stage the order is at... like tracking a Domino's pizza lol Hopefully it will fly, maybe it's best to forget I ordered one hahaha. Nice, it's a cracking deal.​

[@Mexxx65]

Didn't have to watch this video to the end for the verdict...I knew all along they'd pick the new i20N........

[@scollyutube]

Should have included a Suzuki Swift Sport too....?

[@Rascularvideos]

I have driven both the old model and the fairly recently revamped and the old model is ace. The new one not so much. It understeers too much and feels a bit too soft. I understand why they’ve done it but they’ve lost more than they’ve gained. It’s not awful but not great.

[@1989rs500]

Ford's obsession with SUVs is killing them

[@AlexCanta2564]

Yes, puma st is a useless car, god why they didn't make from puma a coupe

[@rootsmanuva82]

Based on the thumbnail and only being able to read "Whats the best drivers car?" I thought this collection of hatchbacks and a Caterham Super Seven was all Autocar could get get this year 😂

[@swanblake]

Love the i20 N and happy it won. The Golf R is way too expensive to be included. Caterham can't handle a crash and have you live so it can't be included.

[@fikes73]

Why get a Puma over a Fiesta? I don’t get it

[@seinsmeld13]

Unfortunately a lot of these cars are not available here in Canada. We get way too many SUVs. If I had my way there would be none allowed on the road wasting petrol!!!! Thanks for the excellent review.

[@abinam2255]

Great commentary: "... and they built it because they wanted to"! What a waste of time.

[@salahdehina9733]

When there's any Caterham around, no car at all, not even those multi million dollar hypercars stands a chance when it comes to pure driving fun and engagement, it's unfair to put it in a test like this against anything short of a race car.

[@raceboy5541]

Wheres GR, most hyped ’hot hatch’ for the 2021?

[@ChrisplayThrough64]

Nope

[@EighTeeNOFivE]

Price should of been capped at 30k?

[@johnindee]

Pretty rubbish sound! Good video though even if, by the way wildest extremes of definition, a hot “hatch”

[@andrewturner4728]

Can someone wake me up when this video has finished..... yawn... How can you make a Britain's top drivers car video so dull. It's more suited to critiqueing battery powered lawnmowers than a drivers car and why put the Caterham in the mix when it's not an everyday car. A Toyota Yaris GR would win this if it was included. The only redeeming part was the verdict although after slating the Golf you still covered yourselves and put it 2nd......

[@jeremyrigden9200]

WHAT THE **** why no Yaris, unbelievable.

[@marcoskhan6665]

I like the review, although, there isn't much of a comparisson to the Puma ST ( which I own proudly). Puma ST is the best car I've driven in years ( coming from 208 Gti and VW Gti ). Fun and functionality combined.

[@kevinmills5293]

Glad to hear that. I pick mine up in 2 days. I like the i20N but need the ground clearance the puma offers.

[@aono335]

Ofcourse youre gonna wave the flag for the puma lol you own the bloody thing. That doesnt mean its the best of the pack. It's an average car.

[@qiqeh]

Have you included a SUV on a driver's car contest? Really? If this is the best bunch of cars under 50k€ launched in 2021, what a shame

[@pauliboo2]

Just about to read your write up in this weeks magazine, thought I’d search and watch this first. I always leave reading your magazine to read on a Sunday!

[@smilepermile8165]

Great job Autocar! Looking forward to your verdict on the upcoming Toyota GR 86. So many press launch videos from Japan and America by now, I wonder what's taking Toyota UK so long, when they did a very subtle UK launch at the Goodwood Festival of Speed...Unfortunately The GR 86 be ignored by people who prefer turbocharged hothatcbacks (because all they care about is straight line speed and PCP Finance deals) or people who want a more raw experience like a Caterham, but I see it as the perfect sweet spot between the those two types of cars in that spectrum.

[@jamiefisher1430]

I am a big fan of the GR Yaris, but I think that it may work against the GR86's success. I love both of these GR products that Akio san got involved with, but I think most people here will only be interested in 0-60 times and 1/4 mile numbers, so the GR86 may be sadly ignored. I hope both cars get the attention and praise they deserve by car enthusiasts.

[@DashDriver-z1r]

The golf r is a over 40k and classed as a luxury car now, so it’s not that affordable. However with lease deals it may be common as mud as with the mk7

[@livinglifefast]

Ford Puma doesn't have the market to itself. The T-Roc R been around a while as well as the Audi SQ2. Both compact SUV's.

[@Lotus.F]

When he said the Golf R is an affordable hot hatch, really ? Does he really thinks everyone can afford a 38 grand car ? Mad.

[@SinusPrimus]

And I have a i20N too. 🤩 Greetz from 🇨🇭

[@muckspreader1able]

The golf for those who have given up on life.The i30n is just amazing.

[@philliz2629]

i20N

[@benthompson68]

A golf r, for puma and a caterham in the same review?? Think you guys should have stayed in the office

[@flyinghedgehog3833]

The Car Guys run rings round these 2...I mean is this a joke or what? I'm nodding off after 5 mins ffs

[@individual1-floridaman491]

Now Hyundai just has to build the bl**dy things! I've ordered mine and I want it now! Waah.

[@beaujeste1]

How is a Golf R affordable???

[@raymondchadwick3577]

probably not if you are on benefits, but anything decent is 40k+ and most people nowadays can afford that

[@hpman911]

PCP deals !

[@aryasandeep8931]

If we're talking about "driver's cars", then only the 3 manuals count, really.

[@markrhoden68]

I agree with the findings but i must say when the golf r as a standard car now starts at just over 40k so you'd have to pay much higher road tax 'affordable' might be a bit of a stretch for many when in this group

[@davestopforth]

Drivers cars? You're fucking joking right? There is only one drivers car there.

[@stevehhall3385]

Love the idea of ' affordable' You live in a different world..

[@SteezyG]

Expensive and affordable are different thing. These cars are affordable and expensive. They're around £250 a month for the Cupra which is affordable.

[@mistreku]

Best affordable drivers car is either the Toyobaru or the MX5. And both are front engine and RWD, as god intended.

[@Birmingham_racing]

Neither is a hot hatch

[@mistreku]

@@Birmingham_racing yea, but the title is "what is the best driver's car"..

[@Birmingham_racing]

@@mistreku read the rest of the title

[@mistreku]

@@Birmingham_racing as opposed to the 7 which is the best hot hatch..

[@chriscox5087]

'Affordable', for people on 6 figure (or close to) salaries...

[@jediali221]

A93, Glenshee?

[@NoTaboos]

What is the point in buying a car that doesn't have a boot?

[@deet4895]

Toyota Yaris GR-4 over every car here.

[@georgimihalkov4781]

Attempting to watch Autocar without an ad blocker was a mistake...I didn't know that it's possible to attach so many ads to a 28 minute video.

[@Rascularvideos]

I hardly got any and don’t use and ad blocker.

[@georgimihalkov4781]

@@Rascularvideos It depends on your region I guess. There were 10-12 ads on this video for me.

[@hpman911]

Only had one ad viewing in London

[@mendistudio]

I’m a BMW fan but I have to admit that 128ti is hard to look at

[@Rascularvideos]

Oddly, I’m not a massive BMW fan - though my mate’s tweaked M2 Comp is impressive - but I quite like the look of the 128i. The computer game engine sound is what I immediately don’t like, without having driven one.

[@mendistudio]

@@Rascularvideos I checked the 135i at the dealer the other day but as much as I wanted to like it it just didn’t click. Great car though.

[@davidpeters6536]

Caterham is not practical, the rest: eenie, meenie, minee, oh who cares...

[@richieduck67]

Why is the other guy who drives the Golf R speaking like a robot?

[@raymondchadwick3577]

he has personality problems