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[@MajorStra]

Nick always asking the helpful questions to decode Yvan!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@Ulinoodle]

I’ve been a huge supporter of pretreating paint before cleaning. Now that it’s warmer, I’ve been enjoying soap washing my 8 year DIY coated car weekly. I found myself pretreating a lot more with your rinseless and then following up with soap and a topper. The rinseless as a pretreat is well worth a try; it completely blew me away how well of a job it did and it’s very economical. I’m like Nick, I like to think more product equals a better clean but just the 256:1 of the rinseless works wonders on pretreating my car.

[@diydetailofficial]

Excellent

[@gonin60detailing82]

Wow! Great results on all clean and really all products. I need to give all clean a go again! Great vid!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@DetailedbyDon]

Great video, glad to have someone who knows tell people NOT to power wash a 'dry' car. that a pre-treat IS needed, especially the dirtier the car is. Now, I know the answer to my question on FB about pre-soaking. That answer is "It depends." Depends on how the car has been protected AND how dirty it currently is.

[@diydetailofficial]

Great point!

[@kevind_53]

Had bugs on the bumper since a week. The car has the stack. Let the bugs soak in rinsless wash while i was doing other things. Never saw bugs wash away so easely with such a gentle product. They almost all went off with the pressure washer before the contact wash

[@diydetailofficial]

Perfect

[@masterkilla77]

Thx for making this fun and simplified!!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@DetailedbyDon]

Perfect timing. I just asked about this on the FB page ...

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@joshparker209]

I love how your shop isn’t much different from my own!!!!!

[@diydetailofficial]

Nice!

[@barrybij8079]

What about putting an once of all clean in the foam cannon with incredible suds to super charge it...getting 85 to 90 percent of the grime before a contact wash

[@jsclayton]

Or a touch of Incredible Suds in the foamer with All Clean for more foam and dwell time?

[@diydetailofficial]

We used a capful of DIY Detail Incredible Suds in the DIY Detail All Clean . In your foam cannon 1 oz of DIY Detail Incredible Suds, 4 of DIY Detail All Clean , water for the rest

[@diydetailofficial]

4 oz in a foam cannon

[@grubbjt]

4oz in a foam cannon safe for glass?

[@Mburr427]

This video should be part 2 using these chemicals in direct heat on a black car and the difference on how to approach.

[@diydetailofficial]

Good idea

[@VictorHernandez-nt3tw]

I learned about the APC rinse from Miranda Auto Detailing channel. It's great for cars that need to be clayed and reapply protection.

[@diydetailofficial]

Excellent

[@hartlanddetailer5670]

Thanks for the video! I use a product with about the same pH and is also concentrated. It does cost significantly less? I am NOT saying it is a better product, but one should consider if you're in business?

[@diydetailofficial]

Unfortunately low cost, high PH products come with risks.

[@hartlanddetailer5670]

@@diydetailofficial I am not a professional nor a chemist and use it sparingly. All I saying they have a similar pH and costs a lot less. Makes you think? Have a good day.

[@Jarph0821]

A 5 gallon pre soak from superior products is $45-55...can be dilated from 40:1 or 120+:1

[@Thecardetailingnut]

Great video that’s why I use Labocosmetica or BH Touchless

[@diydetailofficial]

Thanks for sharing!

[@scotth2455]

I’m new to rinseless wash and recently bought some ONR. If I have some light road film and oils on my car from driving in the rain do I need to pre treat with an APC first or is rinseless wash enough? I’m also wondering if I utilize the sponge on the road film then dunk it in the bucket and rinse it out will I not applying the road film and oil back onto the car with the sponge?

[@diydetailofficial]

If it’s oily a rinseless wash that contains surfactants will do a better job.

[@Rich--J]

Great info--thanks! Website says 15/1 for exterior and 30/1 for interior concerning All Clean. What ratio did you have in your sprayer? Seems 15/1 would run out pretty quickly? I do 30/1 in my sprayer to keep from having to mix up another batch, but understand it might not be as strong.

[@diydetailofficial]

We used 15/1

[@numberoneJATT]

Great topic. I was just researching this last night.

[@diydetailofficial]

Glad it was helpful!

[@bwproctor]

I would love to see the same test but with a ceramic coating vehicle. By the way, I used Incredible Suds yesterday for the first time and truly amazed at how it foams and washes!

[@diydetailofficial]

Great suggestion!

[@rooboy99]

Ill be watching the replay. 3am screening is a little early for me. Hi Humberto

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@ChrisTech1985]

Thanks guys, for a good comparison of your product line on an actual dirty vehicle. As Yvan noted you then can tell it has no coating. If so the test results would be different. Cruz on

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@TheSlizzardLizard]

Great demonstration. I'm looking forward to the next video on this car. Looks like i need to add an apc to the mix

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@ethanblan435]

Yvan I have a customer that wants me to polish their car. It’s a 2020, but it’s been repainted and the upper surfaces are pretty oxidized. I don’t have a paint gauge or anything, do you think it would be safe for me to hit it with GSP and a yellow waffle, or would it be best to avoid it? Thanks!

[@diydetailofficial]

Do a test, but it should be fine

[@JeffKondas]

Jeep question for you guys: When I return from a weekend off-road trip, and the Jeep is covered in mud, what is the best pre-treater to use before I wash it? Should I Mix Incredible Suds and All Clean to foam it for a pre-treatment? Or pre-treat with something else, like rinseless wash? I know hitting it with the pressure washer is terrible. I would appreciate advice on the best set of steps.

[@diydetailofficial]

Great question, if you have a foam cannon available, 1oz of DIY Detail Incredible Suds, 4 DIY Detail All Clean , fill the rest with water. Give a quick spray with a garden hose to wet the mud, then foam.

[@geog]

I thought I saw you say that “All Clean” is safe on coated vehicles since it’s chemical resistant. This video you mentioned that All Clean will break down the coating. Is it just wax or also ceramic coats. Kindly let me know.

[@diydetailofficial]

DIY Detail All Clean will temporarily scar a coating, it won’t remove it.

[@inailboards]

1:19 I feel the polymers and surfactant mix in the rinseless wash are gonna win. Especially with the cleanest rinse of them all.

[@diydetailofficial]

Close

[@greghaefs4677]

Been totally wanting something like this! Just washed yesterday and wonder about process….. Rinseless,rinse, rinseless then sponge Do I really need all clean on bottom panels I do need to use all clean on bumper Can’t wait for this video!

[@diydetailofficial]

What you’re doing is fine

[@renuing]

I love the cleaning power of rinseless, it's amazing how much it removes with a wipe of the sponge and no pressure. However, I get a lot of black specks and lines (1/4" to 1/2" long) on the lower panels mostly by the wheels. I wash my car weekly and it's garage kept. I can remove the black spots with the rag company bug sponge, rinseless and no pressure just wiping back and forth multiple times but it takes me just as long to remove those spots as washing the rest of the vehicle. Would a pre-rinse with all clean and pressure washer be effective enough to remove those or do I need tar remover or something else? Thanks!

[@diydetailofficial]

Yes, DIY Detail All Clean will help to break those down.

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

Ready!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@timlehman4121]

I have a product suggestion, but it may sound dumb at first. A quality windshield wiper fluid. There’s only so many windshield wiper fluids.

[@chrisgorgol9442]

Just dilute rinseless in there with distilled water + a ounce of quick beads

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@timlehman4121]

Idk the ratios?🤷‍♂️ I’m dumb make a product.

[@chrisgorgol9442]

@@timlehman4121 1:256 for rinseless, just make a gallon of product then add one oz of quick beads

[@seashackf1]

⁠​⁠@@chrisgorgol9442That could turn out really bad for someone who lives where there are freezing temps. If you don’t get it out in time you could have a ton of broken plastic parts to replace. Doesn’t seem worth the risk and can only use 6 months out of the year.

[@michaeljaramillo3285]

Do you add any soap into the All Clean mix to make it foam in the IK foamer?

[@diydetailofficial]

A capful to a gallon

[@GrandHuevotes]

I pre treat with foamed or sprayed gsf + rinseless. Only on soiled areas. Rinse. Pre treat again with spray, then I proceed with a normal rinseless wash.

[@diydetailofficial]

Good

[@masterkilla77]

In my area we got hit with serious pollen. Start with rinseless pre treat spray? Then foam rinse foam

[@diydetailofficial]

Foam rinse foam is sufficient

[@zeroconduction]

Lately I've seen an increase in people applying things like tire and wheel cleaners with their foam cannons; basically putting in the solution in full strength or 1:1 and letting the cannon do the diluting. I'm sure you wouldn't generally recommend this because I feel like it would be a bit more wasteful, but do you have an other thoughts on that method?

[@diydetailofficial]

It works, but as noted is a tremendous waste of product

[@richyoung4051]

​@@diydetailofficialthis goes back to the ol saying "you can dig a hole with a hammer, but the question is SHOULD you?"😆

[@scottmboise7209]

How about for a PPF protected car (and also coated with your 3-year graphene coating) -any concerns about using All Clean or need to change the dilution ratio? Thanks for the helpful information!

[@diydetailofficial]

No problem

[@numberoneJATT]

if I use a pump sprayer (home depot 1 gallon) for APC, can i rinse it out thoroughly, and use same pump sprayer for spraying rinseless wash at a later date? Reply

[@diydetailofficial]

Yes, although we really love the ik foam pros because All Clean works even better when you foam it

[@dandydonslife9869]

Great info, thanks will help for future washes…

[@diydetailofficial]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mcflotty]

Guys, I've noticed you don't do a whole lot with wheel wells. For myself, I typically go with an APC in there, then, brush, and wash with the soap I'm using for the car though from a different bucket. Am is missing that, or is there some Yvan/Yoda thing going on that we aren't aware of lol? No crappy tone. I consider him to be the Yoda of car detailing. FYI, you aksed for tips and suggestions. You know the film that goes over an Iphone lens? I don't use other brands, so specifically iPhone. If you clean it, then whipe it with the interior ceramic, no smudges. For a long period of time. Use minimal product lol.

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you, typically we simply rinse wheel wells with the pressure washer. Thanks for the tips.

[@mcflotty]

@@diydetailofficial It's a good ip. Forgive the typos, but the thing actually work well. I'm on my phone all day lol. Makes the worst of days a simple wipe off.

[@BXGreen_DrivewayDetails]

Nice video and explanation.

[@diydetailofficial]

Glad you liked it!

[@stephenbozzone1116]

Would you make any modifications if you have hard water and you are outside? I’ve been pretreating with RW diluted with distilled water in a IK sprayer, skipping the rinse, and then contact wash with sponge and RW.

[@diydetailofficial]

That’s fine

[@russchew5158]

Will the summer heat affect my detailing chemicals? Its known to reach over 100f/38c in the summer where I live

[@diydetailofficial]

Up to 40c is fine

[@rvelez278able]

You should make a video on carpet cleaning and clothes seats cleaning! Please!

[@diydetailofficial]

Coming soon!

[@MikeKaufman-d7n]

Do you release the pressure in keg when not in use? Or can you keep it full for next wash?

[@diydetailofficial]

We do release the pressure

[@Jarph0821]

Superior profucts sells a pre soak for $45-55 in 5 gallon form... dilute 40:1 up to 120:1 ... The cost difference here is tremendous

[@diydetailofficial]

DIY Detail Incredible Suds gets diluted 300-500/1

[@Jarph0821]

@@diydetailofficial ph zero for DIY and ph7 for superior. I'm sure your product works fine. Just want something with some bite.

[@TheObsessedPatriot]

Superior has nailed it, especially for professionals. Huge amounts of great dilutable products for extremely cheap. They've proven that a lot of detailing products are just WAYYY over priced from what they could be. But for the DIY'er there won't be a massive difference when you're only working on the cars a few times a month.

[@jsclayton]

If I pretreat the whole vehicle with rinse less, but where I stated has dried by the time I get around and ready with the sponge should I re-spray or is it safe to just start with the sponge?

[@diydetailofficial]

Best to work on a wet surface

[@victor4091]

work in parts, divide the car in 2 to 4 parts depending on the weather. I usually wash the hood, front bumper and fenders, then half roof and door, then trunk and rear bumper, then the other half of the roof and right side doors

[@Rob_Nasty]

Can you link me the video or title for DA vs Rotary using the yellow waffle pad and gold standard. i got a new white vehicle, and i want to prep it for your 5yr Ceramic coating

[@diydetailofficial]

WHICH CUTS PAINT FASTER?! Rotary or Dual Action Polisher. Real-time test! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGGon5uIhLuGetE

[@fireinthesky_71]

Hello DIY Detail I am 14 and starting my own car detailing buisness i've been looking into rinceless washing for a quicker wash on detail's .I have a question like when you pre spray with a sprayer or keg sprayer it is efficent . But I wanted to no if I put it rincewash in a foam cannon turn the nob so mostly water comes out and pre soak/spray it that way then come with the wash sponge and start washing. Would that be a efficent method.

[@diydetailofficial]

Unfortunately not, look at options that don’t require a pressure washer. I started when I was 12, and had I had access to Rinseless Wash I would have been enthusiastically using it.

[@jime9305]

I appreciate your videos and efforts, however it's a pretty straightforward process to buff a vehicle that's less than 5 years old. What I would like to see you tackle would be a 15 to 20 year old car or boat that's been neglected. Turning those around is what really sets a detailer apart . How about it...are you two up for it ?

[@diydetailofficial]

Definitely, the issue is finding them.

[@metrock_409]

You just answered my questions lol. I ordered a few of your products. I thought it was 1 cap full of rinseless to 1 gallon of water. Also can you plz make air freshers

[@diydetailofficial]

Correct, one cap per gallon

[@M.D.MobileDetailing]

Nick always yapping LOL Yvan is a man of action

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@MC_Reds_Mark]

I’m watching at 1:18 and I think foaming the APC with a small amount of soap will be the best pretreatment…. Let’s watch and see!

[@diydetailofficial]

Good

[@jeremytadeo6687]

Can ceramic gloss be applied like quick beads, where spray and use a pressure washer to spread and rinse off the product

[@diydetailofficial]

Yes, but it’s not ideal

[@devonthetrain12]

If I were to use All Clean in my foam cannon how many ounces would I need? Would it be the same 1:15 dilution?

[@diydetailofficial]

It can be done but will use a lot of product. 8oz

[@devonthetrain12]

@@diydetailofficial Yeah that's what I was afraid of 😅 I need to get an IK foamer I know

[@jamieharris531]

What is the best way to clean your micro fiber towels and what detergent do you use?

[@diydetailofficial]

A free and clear liquid laundry detergent.

[@GDavis49]

Rags to Riches by P&S is very good

[@jojocrawdaddy7487]

Were you using 15:1 All Clean, or some other dilution in the sprayer?

[@diydetailofficial]

15/1

[@isaachussein3071]

Can I decon with ceramic gloss and top up with quick beads rinse to finish it off? I remember you guys posted a video the other day of it?

[@diydetailofficial]

The other way around use DIY Detail Quick Beads as your clay lube, and use DIY Detail Ceramic Gloss as a drying aid, you will want to do this panel be panel.

[@isaachussein3071]

@@diydetailofficial I saw you guys on a video spray quick beads , rinse off then use ceramic gloss as a towel lube and dry ?

[@geoffreyhowlett2672]

Would it be more effective when using Rinseless as a presoak if concentration was increased to 128:1?

[@diydetailofficial]

No

[@gabrielsong7638]

What would happen if you do 1oz of rinseless and 4oz of allclean in foam cannon?

[@diydetailofficial]

No harm, not much foam.

[@guusk1557]

Hey, i just bought diy rinseless wash and the legacy sponge. but how do i clean my soft top the best? can i foam the rinseless wash on it and scrub it in? or is it better to use a wet legacy sponge? I dont want to damage my soft top, and i am new to this.

[@diydetailofficial]

Wet the sponge, you want to “flood” the surface.

[@guusk1557]

@@diydetailofficial thanks for the advice. should i scrub it in after? or just rinse it off with a gardenhose?

[@diydetailofficial]

Simply dry

[@guusk1557]

@@diydetailofficial you guys are the best!!

[@darkwhorse]

Will all clean break down ceramic coatings?

[@diydetailofficial]

No

[@GoTMLGo1967]

I have a hose canon that holds a litre of fluid. How much incredible suds would I need to foam, minimum. There is a line on the container, but I think it would be way to much and wasteful of product. I’m not looking for shaving cream results, just a good clean foam.

[@diydetailofficial]

32:1 is the dilution we recommend, so if you have a 32 ounce container, make sure one ounce of that is Incredible Suds and 31 ounces is water. Use that same dilution ratio for whatever sized container you have. So it would be 30 ml of Incredible Suds (the rest water) in your 1 litre foam cannon

[@GoTMLGo1967]

@@diydetailofficial Thank you 🙏

[@victor4091]

@@diydetailofficial is that a typo? Shouldn't it be 31:1? For example: 1:1 = 50% water, 50% chemical 3:1 = 75% water, 25% chemical 10:1 = 91% water, 9% chemical etc, etc. probably after 6:1 doesn't matter that much but below that it does, the first number is the fractions of water, not the total fractions of the mixed solution

[@dini1046]

thanks DIY

[@diydetailofficial]

Welcome 😊

[@amberatkinson4230]

I am guessing the apc. For whatever reason I can't seem to get the time code to activate.

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@rooboy99]

I do wheels and rocker panels will all clean in ik foamer, then pretreat rest of car with Rinsless wash then legacy sponge in bucket of rinseless wash. Dont show me something that makes me change my routine :)

[@diydetailofficial]

No need to change

[@rooboy99]

​@@diydetailofficialhooray!

[@EmanuelRobins]

Can I use rinse less with clay towel?

[@diydetailofficial]

Yes

[@chriswaidelich6640]

0:55 All Clean

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@canheapravind5052]

❤❤nice info u both in the video

[@diydetailofficial]

Glad you liked it!!

[@Sabdetail]

What proportions of all Clean? 1:15?

[@diydetailofficial]

Yes

[@MrKennyanders]

Is All Clean good before a coating

[@diydetailofficial]

Yes

[@RichardMJr]

why not pretreat like that and then spray APC and foam and then wash it. Wouldnt that act as a strip wash or at least get the road grime off for sure

[@diydetailofficial]

Stay tuned

[@jsclayton]

@@diydetailofficialhmmmmmm 🤔

[@67Jeff]

Do you have available 32oz bottles with labels for us who buy gallons?

[@diydetailofficial]

No

[@67Jeff]

@@diydetailofficial any chance of getting labels for my own bottles?

[@diydetailofficial]

Not at this time

[@kashproductions619]

Thanks for this…

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@EmanuelRobins]

How many in millilitres of rinse less to a bucket as I am in Australia?

[@diydetailofficial]

4ml/l

[@EmanuelRobins]

@@diydetailofficial is one capful 4ml?

[@victor4091]

you don't have google in Australia?

[@EmanuelRobins]

Nope

[@victor4091]

@@EmanuelRobins bummer :(

[@henrylynch9437]

Interesting!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@Nicholas-z6u]

Can you use a 1.0 orifice on foam cannon

[@diydetailofficial]

Yes

[@Nicholas-z6u]

@@diydetailofficial thank you

[@kingyellowman5762]

You say that hitting s dirty vehicle with a pressure washer can introduce damage, but you're foaming with a pressure washer?

[@diydetailofficial]

The foam cannon greatly reduces the pressure output of the machine.

[@adamvalenti3521]

Rinse less and all clean is super versatile. 90% of a detail can be done with those two products

[@diydetailofficial]

Correct

[@victor4091]

Absolutely! I used to do almost everything with ONR (Rinseless) and Optimum Power Clean (automotive safe APC). At least for maintenance washes you can do everything with those two at different dilution ratios, from exterior paint, bugs, wheels, tires, interior, glass (although I also like just distilled water & isopropyl alcohol from any grocery store for quick flashing on glass), etc, etc. If you use pH neutral soap instead of rinseless and an APC that is not safe for paint, then you may need to also use a special bug remover, a special drying aid, then depending on weather something like Formula 4 Spray Wax or Quick Beads to prevent water spots, among a few other chemicals. Now for actual decontamination, polishing, paint correction, and long term protection you need a lot more supplies but a lot of people hire a professional detailer for that once a year or once every couple of years while doing maintenance washes themselves on the weekends.

[@user-tu1ee6dc5f]

Cicada bug guts! What do you you? That stuff is thick.

[@diydetailofficial]

Wash asap, use DIY Detail All Clean as a pre-treatment

[@meanf1502]

I forgot is one cap fill a oz in the rinseless wash

[@diydetailofficial]

1 cap is 1/2 oz

[@meanf1502]

Is it bad to only use one cap per gallon or should I use a cap an 1/2 per gallon

[@diydetailofficial]

One cap per gallon only

[@seashackf1]

6:38 what did you guys do wrong to end up in car detailers jail? Hopefully you’ll get out early with time off for good behavior.

[@diydetailofficial]

lol

[@stevenv9224]

Thanks for a great video like the demo on the products👍🏼👍🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@DiamondShineDetail]

Looks like All Clean is the next DIY product to hit my cart...at some point in the near future, this big tote of random chemicals is gonna be whittled down to nothing but one of each DIY product...

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@zibzer]

1:15 … Im guessing All Clean

[@diydetailofficial]

Good

[@MrKennyanders]

A pressure washer? Do you need a 1000.00 washer and a 700.00 polisher to do a good job or will a 80.00 Amazon polisher do a good job?

[@diydetailofficial]

No need

[@havingtoomuchfun4806]

I tried BH touchless, what a waste of money. All Clean wipes the floor with BH. OG should have tried DIY before importing BH

[@diydetailofficial]

I wouldn’t waste DIY Detail All Clean on a floor.

[@havingtoomuchfun4806]

@@diydetailofficialso true

[@victoryensured7137]

Totally different products, All Clean is an APC, BH Toouchless is a straight pre wash, if you really want to compare do so with the same category products, not to diss All Clean but tested it alongside BH APC (BH Surfex HD) and Surfex destroys All Clean (no offense DIY, i still love your products), plus APC are not super healthy for most ceramic coatings when used often, i observed a decline in coating performance by prewashing it will any kind of APC (sure it depends on the coating, no DIY coatings here in Poland so i use the next best thing - Gyeon).

[@chriss3959]

Get rid of the GRIT

[@diydetailofficial]

Exactly

[@jamieharris531]

Can I use rinseless in my washing machine to clean micro fiber towels?

[@diydetailofficial]

@@jamieharris531 not the best use.